Tupac: All you need to know

Summary

Fame Under Fire: Tupac – All You Need To Know (August 6, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this episode of Fame Under Fire, host Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty and resident trial attorney Sean Kent deliver an in-depth exploration of the upcoming trial of Duane “Keefe D” Davis, the only person ever charged in connection with the 1996 murder of rapper Tupac Shakur. With the backdrop of nearly three decades of speculation, allegations, and unsolved investigations, the episode walks listeners through the criminal and legal journey leading up to the trial, explains the critical legal theories at play, unpacks the key evidence, and examines the cultural significance and persistent narratives surrounding one of American pop culture’s most notorious unsolved cases.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Background of the Case

• The Shooting:
  • Tupac Shakur was shot four times on September 7, 1996, after leaving a Mike Tyson boxing match in Las Vegas. He died a week later at age 25. (00:52)
  • Shots were fired from a Cadillac at Shakur and Marion “Suge” Knight, who drove the BMW. (00:52)
• Keefe D’s Role:
  • Duane “Keefe D” Davis, accused mastermind, was arrested in September 2023 — the first ever arrest in relation to Tupac’s murder. He pleads not guilty. (01:20)
  • Prosecutors allege Keefe D orchestrated the shooting as retaliation in a gang conflict, not as the triggerman but as the architect. (01:56)

2. Who Is Keefe D?

• Background Connection:
  • Keefe D is alleged to have been a high-ranking member (shot-caller) in the Southside Compton Crips gang. (04:45)
  • The incident is linked to an earlier chain-snatching at a California mall involving rival entourages. Rivalries escalated between Tupac’s group and Keefe D’s. (01:56)
• Legal Status:
  • Currently in jail awaiting trial. (04:45)

3. Legal Mechanisms & Theories Explained

• Proffer Agreements:

  • In 2008, Keefe D gave a lengthy law enforcement interview under a “proffer” (or immunity) agreement, designed to elicit information without that testimony being used against the speaker, so long as they don’t lie or breach the agreement. (05:31)
  • “The big thing is law enforcement can never use this stuff again, no matter what... They cannot use the stuff that you have said against you.” – Sean Kent (06:41)

• Why Is Keefe D Now Charged?

  • Despite the immunity, Keefe D wrote a memoir ("Compton Street Legend") and gave public interviews recounting his alleged involvement, effectively breaching his proffer protection. This allows prosecutors to use those statements at trial. (13:08)
  • “Dwayne Kee is clearly the greatest legal scholar of all of us because he figured out a way to penetrate it by opening his damn mouth.” – Sean Kent (13:08)

• Conspiracy & 'Hand of One, Hand of All' Theories:

  • The prosecution’s case hinges on the “conspiracy” and the “hand of one is the hand of all” doctrine, which allows anyone involved in a group crime to be charged with its full consequences, even if they didn’t directly commit the act. (09:56)
  • “All of you were working in concert to rob this place... whatever could happen, you’re liable for it. So, boys and girls at home, don’t get in the car with crazy people.” – Sean Kent (11:41)

• Indictment & Charges:

  • Keefe D charged with first-degree murder with enhancements for deadly weapon and gang activity. (08:53)
  • Enhancements increase potential sentences but do not warrant the death penalty. (09:06)

4. Key Evidence and Witnesses

• Book & Interview Statements:
  • Sections of Keefe D’s memoir and the 2008 interview are now admissible, after he declared publicly (e.g., Vlad TV) that they represented the “real truth,” negating claims of hyperbole/fabrication. (15:37)
  • “Go get the book and you can get the real truth about this whole situation.” – Keefe D on Vlad TV (15:45)
• Suge Knight:
  • Suge Knight (injured in the shooting and present with Tupac) is on the witness list, but there is no guarantee he’ll testify. He’s historically refused to cooperate. (18:39)
• Other Parties – Sean “Diddy” Combs:
  • Ongoing rumors claim Combs offered payment for the killing, which he has denied. Practical/legal barriers make his testimony unlikely, especially since he's in federal incarceration and would face self-incrimination issues. (19:09, 20:44)
  • “I don’t want to say it’s impossible, but it’s almost impossible for the defense to do it [make Diddy testify].” – Sean Kent (20:44)

5. Potential Defense Arguments

• Gang Lifestyle Defense:
  • The possibility that defense will argue Keefe D was simply acting consistent with gang culture by having weapons in the car, not necessarily orchestrating murder. (17:07)
• Credibility Issues:
  • Keefe D’s own words and shifting stories are likely to be the prosecution’s sharpest tool — “the strongest witness against him is him because of all the stuff that he has said in the past.” – Sean Kent (17:26)
  • “It will be Keefe D versus Keefe D.” – Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty (18:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “They’re saying Duane Keefe D is the mastermind, the Architect, if you will. It was his idea. He gave the firearm that caused the shot.” – Sean Kent (01:56)
• “Usually what ends up happening is great police work is built out of interviewing people. So they interview and ask questions and get people to give them information.” – Sean Kent (05:31)
• “You know that impenetrable, can’t-get-through proffer, rock solid agreement that you can’t do anything about? Well, Dwayne Kee is clearly the greatest legal scholar of all of us because he figured out a way to penetrate it by opening his damn mouth.” – Sean Kent (13:08)
• “His own words are what will always hurt a client more than anything in the world. It’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up.” – Sean Kent (17:26)
• “Go get the book and you can get the real truth about this whole situation.” – Quoting Keefe D (15:45)
• “It will be Keefe D versus Keefe D.” – Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty (18:39)
• “If anybody is following... This is the type of trial I would follow if I wanted to learn about American jurisprudence and understand history and so forth.” – Sean Kent (23:27)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:52 – Recap of Tupac’s murder and early investigation
• 01:20-01:56 – Keefe D’s identity, connection to the case, and allegations against him
• 05:31-06:51 – Explanation of proffer agreements and their legal implications
• 08:53-09:23 – Specific charges filed against Keefe D
• 09:56-12:39 – “Hand of one, hand of all” theory and how it applies in conspiracy prosecutions
• 13:08-16:38 – How and why Keefe D’s proffer protection was nullified, opening the way to his prosecution
• 15:45 – Public statements that led to Keefe D’s book and interview becoming admissible
• 18:39-19:09 – Witness list discussion and possibility of Suge Knight and Diddy testifying
• 20:44 – Challenges of getting Diddy to testify in state court
• 23:27 – Final reflections on the trial’s complexity and significance

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains a lively, accessible, but serious analytical tone. Sean Kent provides a mix of legal expertise, plain English explanations, and humor (“don’t get in the car with crazy people”). Anoushka keeps the discussion sharp, clarifying legal processes for listeners and leaning into the cultural resonance of the trial without succumbing to tabloid speculation.

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For Listeners New to the Case

This episode is a comprehensive, jargon-free primer on the Tupac murder trial. It breaks down both the facts and legal strategies, demystifies American legal procedures, and sets the cultural context. Expect further episodes to follow the trial day by day—especially as proceedings get underway in Las Vegas.

Transcript

[Sean Kent]

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[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Hello and welcome back to Fame Under Fire from BBC Sounds. With me, Anushka Mutanda Doughty. Next week I'm heading to Las Vegas for the Tupac murder trial. Almost 30 years later, prosecutors in Nevada are trying to solve one of the most notorious cold cases in the us.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Shakur was shot four times after leaving the Mike Tyson boxing match in Las Vegas in a car driven by Marion Suge Knight ahead of his label, Death Row Records. The shots were fired from a Cadillac that drove up alongside Knight's BMW, but police still have no leads on a suspect or motive. Tupac Crowd Plague's rapper and actor Tupac Shakur is dead at the age of 25, just about a week after sustaining four bullet wounds. Last Saturday night in Las Vegas, Shakur spent the weekend in the hospital on a respirator in critical condition.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Reverend Jesse so, who is the defendant? Dwayne Keith Davis, aka Keefe D, was arrested on 29 September 2023 in Las Vegas for the 1996 murder of rapper Tup Davis is the only person ever charged in connection with Tupac's death. After years of investigations, on the 10th of August, he will go on trial for his alleged role in the shooting and he's pleaded not guilty. Joining me to go through this all is our resident trial attorney, Sean Kent from South Carolina. Hi Sean.

[Sean Kent]

Hey, Nuska. How are you guys doing?

[David Dimbleby]

Good.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

I mean, you're the expert on this because we've spoken about this long before we knew we were going to be covering this trial. Can you just run us through who Keefe D is?

[Sean Kent]

So if you look back and you and I have talked about this, I guess the easiest way to describe it is everybody thinks that Dwayne Keefe D. Davis is the actual shooter who was involved in the shooting of Tupac. He is not. He is long and short, what we say is a relative of an individual who shot Tupac Shakur. This whole thing goes back to a bunch of rival gang activity. I think you and I have talked about it rival gang activity is the allegations. And it even goes back even farther, involving a chain snatching in a mall in California that a relative of Duane Keefe D. Davis's or a member of the Crips for Blood or whatever organization you want to say it was in, was robbed by a member of the entourage of Tupac Shakur. After this robbery, the fight took off between two rival gangs, if you will. Two rival entourages, if you will. Anushka, Tupac and his buddy Suge Knight leave the fight together. They are shot in their car. Suge got a graze wound, but Tupac was shot and killed. Suge was interviewed. They asked him what happened, and he said, look, I didn't hear anything or I didn't see anything. I heard something. I don't know. So he was not worth a darn. So they looked and looked and looked, and they ended up deciding all the way back 30 years ago this had some type of gang ties and gang relation. But they could never solve the case forever. They finally interviewed a guy named Dwayne Keevi D that we're all talking about. They sat down and interviewed Dwayne Keefe D and asked him what's going on. They are saying that Duane Keevi died, is the mastermind, the Architect, if you will. It was his idea. He gave the firearm that caused the shot. So that's who Dwayne is. They're saying he is the person who orchestrated this whole thing. The prosecutors in Vegas are basically going to be saying that this was a retaliation, a retaliatory killing. They're going to go under what's called a hand of one, hand of all type theory, which I'm sure you're going to ask me what that means, but they're going to go with a hand of one hand of all type theory that Dwayne Keefe D may not have fired the shot, but the shot would not have been fired had he not been there with his relatives trying to retaliate for a snatching of a chain in a mall. Dwayne Keefe D is related to a gentleman by the name of Orlando Anderson. It has been speculated for years that Orlando Anderson is the actual trigger man is what ended up happening. And it is suspected that Dwayne Keefe D. Davis, the Architect, is who gave Orlando the firearm in which the shot was fired out of the vehicle that Orlando Anderson, Duane Kee PD were inside when they shot and killed Tupac in Inder Shug. But that's who Dwayne Kee PD is He is the right now, he is just a very old man inside of a prison cell or jail cell waiting for trial. But at the time, he was seen as a pretty high ranking, pretty influential member of a gang organization.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Didn't officers suspect that he was the shot caller of the Southside Compton Crips gang? And this is going to become so relevant when we get to the trial because all of that is going to get entered in as evidence. You say he sat down with the police now for ages. This crime goes unsolved because of the kind of don't snitch, I would say. I'm not sure if. Is there a technical term for that that you have in the law? Don't snitch. That's what we'd call it over here.

[Sean Kent]

No, it is the same thing. Do not snitch snitches. Exact same thing.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

The undercurrent of kind of, I guess, social contract of being in a gang. And so for so long, like you say, Suge Knight was less than forthcoming with his testimony that he gave. Then you say Keefe D. Sits down with law enforcement officers in around 2008. How does that happen?

[Sean Kent]

So what ends up happening? Actually, there's something in the law called a proffer. Okay. And everybody thinks that law enforcement are these great bastions of legal excellence who can figure things out. And it's like television and Sherlock Holmes. I figured out the crime. Usually what ends up happening is great police work is built out of interviewing people. So they interview and ask questions and get people to give them information. And so a lot of times when they cannot solve crimes, they do things called proffers. What a proffer is, is when you go to somebody and you say the following. Look, if you tell us everything, we will not utilize it against you. It's almost like an immunity agreement. And the rules on our proffer, Anushka, is so long you are telling the truth, meaning we don't catch you in a lie. We can't use anything you have said against you. But the second you're caught in a single lie, the second we think you're a fibbing, the second we think you're holding something back, we're coming at you and we're using everything that you've told us against you. Now, and when you sit down with a proper, the big thing is law enforcement can never use this stuff again, no matter what. They cannot use the stuff that you have said against you. This is me foreshadowing your next question. They can never, ever, ever, ever, ever use it against you ever, ever, ever, no matter what, the proffer will never be used against him in a court of law.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

And just to check is that that goes for, like, the feds as well.

[Sean Kent]

The feds are the ones who use it most often. Like on all of my federal cases, it almost always happens. And what ends up happening is so for people at home, if you're ever reading a federal indictment, you'll see a bunch of names on the indictment. It'll say, United States of America. And you'll see like seven names. Well, believe it or not, here's a little pro tip at home. If you're reading it, the name at the top of the indictment is the worst person. They usually rank them by order of who they want to get the most. And so what ends up happening is the person at the bottom, they usually go to that person and say, hey, man, want to snitch? And they start snitching on the people up top to get the highest line of the ladder. What always ends up happening, though, is almost every lawyer on the planet, when someone gets arrested, they go to their client and say, hey, man, you're in trouble. The Fed's got you. You're looking at mandatory minimum, 20 years. Do you want to cooperate with law enforcement? And the first person who cooperates, who goes in there and gives their proffer, they can get information. Why is that important, Anushka? Because remember, I told you, law enforcement only wants information if you're the last one to cooperate. They've already got all the information. They look at you and say, dude, I don't need you anymore. We've got all the information against you. You're going to trial.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Okay, so we've got this impenetrable profit

[David Dimbleby]

agreement

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

that was offered to Keefe 2008. In 2023, we jump forwards and this man's been arrested and charged.

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[Sean Kent]

Tonight, Las Vegas authorities have finally announced charges in the case. Arrested today, self described gang member Dwayne Davis has now been indicted by a grand jury for murder. This is the indictment we've been waiting almost three decades. 4. The reported arrest was made two months after police searched a home near to the location. The killing happened at a property linked to a man who had previously said he witnessed the shooting from a car.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

What's he been charged with?

[Sean Kent]

He's been charged with murder.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

He's been charged with murder in the first degree, right?

[Sean Kent]

Yeah.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

And with two enhancements. Deadly weapon and in furtherance of gang activity. Sean, remind us. Enhancements aren't necessarily relevant right now. It's more a sentencing is more at

[Sean Kent]

sentencing is to determine the amount of time that you're looking at. Dwayne's case. What ends up happening is there's a murder and we can throw something on top maybe for one year, maybe for five years, stuff of that nature. It'll never equate to a death penalty case, but it can get him more than the 25, 30, 35 year sentence he's looking at.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

So in the world of Dwayne Keefe D. Davis, we've got a 2008 proffer agreement and a lengthy interview he gave to law enforcement. We've got this backstory with the gangs now we've got an official arrest and charge in 2023. Now, you've said that allegedly the shoot Orlando Anderson. And this is. This is quite widespread. This is a well known theory.

[Sean Kent]

Yeah.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

And of course, Orlando Anderson was then killed two years after the shooting in 1996 in a shootout in Compton in Los Angeles. And the prosecutors are not alleging that Keefe D pulled the trigger. So how is he being charged with murder?

[Sean Kent]

The one of the best tools in a prosecutor's arsenal is something called a conspiracy. They can almost always charge you under conspiracy thought count. And what a conspiracy count is, basically, I could not have done it without any of you. And there's something else called the hand of one is the hand of all. The act of one is the act of all. And that's what you'll hear in this side of case. They'll say, the hand of one is the hand of all. What does that mean? The example that we're always taught as lawyers is, and it's from every gangster movie you have ever seen in your life. Individuals say, and this is from Point Break, set it off. Every movie has the same exact theory on someone who's getting ready to go rob a bank. Somebody is the getaway driver. Batman Begins. Somebody goes inside of the store with the guns, and they're just like, everybody put your hands down. This is a robbery. And everybody, I don't want to get. And they put their hands up, and somebody had the gun up. And there's that crazy dude in the corner who's part of the gang. Crazy. Leroy just sees somebody. I said, put your gun down. Put your gun down. And he shoots him. Okay? And everyone's like, leroy shot him. Well, you would think that Leroy would be the only one who would be charged with the murder. However, the getaway driver, the person who says, everybody put your hands down and Leroy would all be charged with a murder. Because the theory is the hand of one is the hand of all. All of you were working in concert to rob this place. And the necessary and natural consequences of what could have happened was the murder in Crazy Leroy. The same thing with Duane Keefe D Davis. The same the is all of you were in the car together. You may not have fired the shot. However, you gave the gun, you were in the car, you were all working together. So every single one of you is liable for that murder. Anushka, there's a famous case in the United States to also bring this at home. Two individuals go inside of a store together to rob a place. Two guys, they're working together. They're openly working together. They get into an argument with the police officers. The police officers start fighting. The cop shoots one of his buddies, he dies. They charge the other guy who's with him with murder. So think about that. The cop shot him and killed him. The two of them are working together. He's charged with murder under the hand of one hand of all theory. That's how far this theory can go. If you guys are working together to do something and something bad happens, even if it's with one of you, you can still be charged with murder. That's how you can understand the Keefe D situation is he's there. Whatever could happen, you're liable for it. So boys and girls at home don't get in the car with crazy people.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Yeah, that's great advice. The allegation being that he provided the weapon that was then used to shoot Tupac. He threw it in the back seat. Right. Okay, so the next allegation, that's the allegation which he denies. The next step that we have in this story is why the hell is he being arrested in in 2023 if this has been well known theory, and it was a well known theory that he was in the car for a long time. Everybody else is dead. Bar Suge Knight, who was in the other car where Tupac was shot. So why 2023?

[Sean Kent]

Well, you know that impenetrable can't get through proper rock solid agreement that you can't do anything about. Well, Dwayne Kee is clearly the greatest legal scholar of all of us because he figured out a way to penetrate it by opening his damn mouth is the long and short of it. So what ended up happening is the prosecutors have known or have believed and law Enforcement has believed that Duane Keefe D was involved. And I guarantee you prosecutors forever, like we can't prosecute this guy because he has this lot, solid proffer, can't do anything about it. Well, then this, the guy decides to write a tell all book, goes on podcast, starts telling the world about what's going on. And then smart prosecutors say, look, the proper doesn't matter anymore because you keep talking about the proper. You keep talking about information that's inside the proper. So even though we are barred, even though we are stopped, even though we're not supposed to talk about this stuff at all, you've talked about it. So that breaches the agreement.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Okay? And that's important because Keefe D and his lawyers, his legal team came back and said, hold on a second. This was a co written book, Compton Street Legend, which came out in 2019. So he wasn't the sole author. And also there was hyper, Hyperbole. We hand it up to sell copies. Parts of it are a fictitious retelling of what happened in order to get the maximum impact when it hits the stores. And therefore it's art technically. And that was the argument put forward to the judge. Right? And the judge said, and it would

[Sean Kent]

have been a great argument other than the fact. Again, old Keefe D. Davis, the judge literally pointed to an interview when someone asked him about this. This is hyperbole, this is exaggeration. He's like, nah, son, gang, gang. This is the truth. This is real. Everything in this, this is my real truth. I have co signed on it. The judge was saying, look man, you said this is the real truth. You co signed on it and then you kept doing podcasts telling the world this is what happened. So the judge says, no, man, it's all coming in against you. Doesn't mean it's admission. Everybody doesn't mean that. It says you are guilty. It says the judge says, the jury can now hear it. And Kevi D, you have the right to get on the stand and say what you've been saying. You have a right to get in front of the jury and say this is fiction. This isn't true. I'm a big fat liar. None of this happened. I'm scared of gang activity. I'm lactose intolerant. I sleep with a nightlight. I am a sweetheart. He can still get on the stand and say all of that stuff.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

His choice though, to get on the stand.

[Sean Kent]

His choice. He is not forced to get on the stand, but I will put him on the stand.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Get up there, go on and to really further elucidate what Sean is saying, that this is a direct quote from Keefe D on Vlad tv, he says, quote, go get the book and you can get the real truth about this whole situation. So statements of that nature have meant that the book is now admissible. It can go in front of the jury sections of the book. And so can the 2008 long, lengthy interview that he gave to law enforcement, which he spoke about afterwards and said, I wish I hadn't done that.

[Sean Kent]

So there's a lawyer somewhere in Uska who sat down with him to a. And looking at him like, bruh.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Oh, God.

[Sean Kent]

After he has given the interview, the first one, I guarantee a lawyer. Yeah. Keefe, what the f are you doing? Brad? Hey, man, don't worry. They ain't looking at me no more. That's 30 years ago. Stop it, stop it, stop it. And now, of course, he's like, man, I probably shouldn't have been given that interview.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

But on the other side of it, right? Hand of one hand of all. I understand, but the allegation is that he threw a weapon into the backseat, which is then where he says in the book and in the interview that shots were then fired from. Right. But we're having gang ties introduced into the narrative that will go in front of the jury. So to explain the affiliation with different sides of. Well, there's two separate gangs that are involved. Right. The allegation is the gang.

[Sean Kent]

That's what the rivals.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Yeah, you know,

[Sean Kent]

gold star for this guy.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Yeah, but what's to stop his lawyers from saying, yeah, he was in a gang. This happens a lot in gangs. They put weapons in the backseat. They throw it back there with their purse and their lip gloss. They throw the gun back as well. It's just part and parcel of the lifestyle. That doesn't mean you are orchestrating or the architect of a crime.

[Sean Kent]

There are two people still alive from when all of this happened. Two. One of them was not in the car. So keep. He literally can get on the stand and say just about anything. I mean, he'll be cross examined on the book, but he can get on the stand and say that. And he's like, look, man, there are two theories. I threw the gun in the back seat because I wanted him to shoot. Like an accessory before the fact of murder. Or look, I tossed my piece in the back seat. Find me guilty of illegal possession of a firearm. I didn't know that crazy dude was gonna do that. He can go so far as I. Look, I put my gun in the back seat and was like, hey man, throw that in my handbag. I got a Gucci bag back there, put it back there and hand me my mints. And then all of a sudden that crazy dude started shooting. I was like, ah, why is he shooting? Why is he shooting? And I started crying. I'm like, I love Tupac music. He can say any of that because again, there are no other witnesses besides him. But the strongest witness against him is him because of all the stuff that he has said in the past. Tvd, if, if, if he takes the stand, is going to be cross examined with his own words. We've been doing this two, three years and what have I always said? Your own words are what will always hurt a client more than anything in the world. It's not the crime, it's the COVID up. It's his own words. But it will be Keefe D versus

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Keefe D. This is. Yeah, this is a. This is very interesting. You mentioned there's only one other person alive. That would be Suge Knight. We've just had the witness list revealed and it looks like Suge Knight will be testifying, which is shocking because for so long he said, I'm never going to speak.

[Sean Kent]

It looks like Suge Knight is a witness and on the witness list does not necessarily mean he'll be testifying.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

Well, why is he on there then

[Sean Kent]

when we put out witness list Anushka? I've had a trial before where I put out a witness list with 60 names on it and haven't called a single soul.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

I mean, there's only one more logical question from this because the only other person people are desperate to hear from is old Diddy. This is for a couple of reasons. Keefe D has maintained for quite a while now in public statements and Also in the 2008 interview, he gave to law enforcement that he was paid or offered money by Sean Diddy Combs. A million dollars, he said, to kill Tupac. And just a reminder, Diddy has denied any involvement in the drive by shooting that killed rapper Tupac Shakur in Las Vegas in 1996. And this is something that has been reignited recently, obviously after the Diddy's trial, but more so with the release of the 50 Cent 4 parter on Netflix, which we have an episode on, if you want to go back and listen to that. That it was insinuated that Diddy was perhaps more involved than you might have thought before. Although that has been a rumor for a very long time.

[Sean Kent]

For a long time.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

I mean, you would know there's also been a wrongful death suit. Yeah. What are you going to do? You're a million miles away. What are you going to do? What are you not going to. There's been a wrongful death suit that has been filed by Tupac's brother as well. And in that they say not just the 2008 interview that Keefe D gave to law enforcement, but also things that came out as part of that four part Netflix series indicate that there might be more people involved than previously thought. They do not mention Diddy as a co conspirator. There are John does and attached to the civil lawsuit. So the hint hint is like in that four parter it seemed like there were other people involved. And so the whole Internet is going, are we going to hear from Diddy? He's obviously also incarcerated and it's not the same situation as Suge Knight. And you're going to tell me why

[Sean Kent]

it is not the same situation as Suge 1. First of all, let's talk about ease of getting someone to the facility. Suge Knight is in a state prison, okay? He is in the Department of Corrections. It is much easier to get somebody from the Department of Corrections to come testify. It's not easy, but it's much easier. Diddy is in federal custody. Getting an inmate out of federal custody is, and I don't want to say impossible. You have to what's called a writ, you have to go to a federal judge and basically get permission to have him transported. The feds in the state, if you've been watching a lot of cases, they generally don't play well together. But the feds in the state usually do things completely differently. And so it's very hard to get Diddy out of federal custody, even to get him over there. Then you have lawyers for the Bureau of Prisons, which is where he is, who would have to agree to let him out. You'd have to get the prosecutor on the former case to agree to let him out. It is such a hard process to get a federal inmate to go testify into a state facility. And I don't want to say it's impossible, but it's almost impossible for the defense to do it, okay? Because the defense is almost impossible. And it'd be equally difficult for the prosecution to get Diddy to come testify. And what did he even come testify? Does he want to. His lawyer can say, dude's not going, he's not going to testify. And then you run into the whole immunity agreements. Would he take the fifth. All of these Other situations, can the judge put him in contempt for not testifying? Not in this situation. Because what's different is Diddy would be looked at based upon just assumptions. Diddy would be looking at as the real archetype, and he is the one who called the shot. He is the one who started this. So he could be looking at criminal liability. And under that situation, he's like, like, I'm not going to testify to something that could subject me to criminal liability. And that's when he could take the Fifth. That's when he could say, I'm not testifying. For all of those reasons. Most people will be like, why would I want to bring him over? And for Dwayne's position, I think it would hurt if Diddy testified, even for him. Because think about it. He would have to say, look, Diddy offered me a whole bunch of money to kill him. And then the prosecutor's next response is, well, didn't you? Diddy doesn't help his claim under a hand of one hand of all type theory. Because in a hand of one hand of all, you can't say, I only did it because he paid me. Dude, that still makes you really guilty. You understand?

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

And Diddy has previously denied any involvement in the Drive by shooting that killed Tupac in 1996 in Vegas. Sean, thank you so much for walking us through that today.

[Sean Kent]

Thank you so much for having me. I agree with you. I think this is going to be a fascinating trial. The legal wranglings, the issues, the names. If anybody is following. This is the type of trial I would follow if I wanted to learn about American jurisprudence and understand history and so forth. I think it's going to be fascinating. I really do. So thank you all for having me. I appreciate you. Thank you for letting me comment on this one.

[Anushka Mutanda Doughty]

That was our resident trial attorney, Sean Kent from South Carolina. And that's it for this episode of Fame Under Fire from BBC Sounds with me, Anoushka Mutandadawati. As always, if you've got questions, send them to me. On social Media, it's Anoushka MD on Instagram and TikTok. And make sure you subscribe and turn on your push notifications so you never miss a thing. And you definitely want to be locked for this Tupac murder trial. We're coming to you from Vegas every single day.

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