AI Sex Bots Are Here, Fires Reboot Kevin's Life, Wild NVIDIA Updates | E009 | Diggnation

Summary

Diggnation (Rebooted) Episode E009 Summary

Title: AI Sex Bots Are Here, Fires Reboot Kevin's Life, Wild NVIDIA Updates | E009 | Diggnation
Release Date: January 28, 2025
Hosts: Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht

In Episode 9 of Diggnation (Rebooted), hosts Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht navigate through a compelling mix of cutting-edge technology, personal upheavals, and lifestyle transformations. This episode delves deep into the advent of AI-driven sex bots, the profound impact of devastating fires on Kevin's life, and the latest breakthroughs from NVIDIA that promise to revolutionize gaming and AI applications. Interwoven with humor and heartfelt reflections, the discussion offers listeners a rich tapestry of insights and engaging narratives.

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AI Sex Bots Are Here

The episode opens with an exploration of the latest innovation in robotics: AI-integrated sex bots originating from China. Kevin and Alex dissect the features, societal implications, and potential future developments of these lifelike companions.

• Realistic Features and Functionality:
  Kevin highlights the bot's lifelike appearance and interactive capabilities.

  “[00:08] B: So when you squeeze different areas, it moans. Oh, my God.”

• Voice Integration and Personalization:
  The hosts critique the current voice implementations and suggest improvements.

  “[00:32] A: He had a great voice, like 30 bucks.”
  “[00:34] B: The end of that video just said serving mankind. That's how they ended the video.”

• Economic and Ethical Considerations:
  They discuss the cost-effectiveness of enhancing the bots with better voices and the ethical implications of such technology.

  “[00:42] B: Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health.”

• Social Impact and Future Prospects:
  The conversation delves into how AI sex bots could influence human relationships and societal norms, contemplating both therapeutic benefits and potential displacement of human interactions.

  “[71:20] B: I think there is a situation where things like this could be very therapeutic for certain people.”

Fires Reboot Kevin's Life

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Kevin's harrowing experience with house fires, detailing the chaos, loss, and subsequent life reevaluation.

• Incident Narrative:
  Kevin recounts the frightening experience of spotting smoke near his residence and the frantic efforts to evacuate his family.

  “[26:01] A: So I've got three takeaways that are. That I think are pretty interesting. One is don't count on fireproof states at your house, especially those cheap ones because ours melted and lost everything inside that. Fireproof. Yeah.”

• Loss of Sentimental Items:
  The emotional toll of losing irreplaceable possessions is poignantly described.

  “[33:16] A: I just realized I didn't have a laptop. And also then a few hours later, another part of LA caught on fire.”

• Lessons on Minimalism and Preparedness:
  Reflecting on the incident, the hosts emphasize the importance of prioritizing essentials over material wealth.

  “[35:40] A: The things that hit me most were the first Father's Day cards that my kids have given me. [...] they just vanished in the flames.”

• Rebuilding and Community Support:
  Kevin and Alex discuss the role of community and donations in the recovery process, highlighting the significance of having a plan in place.

  “[39:41] B: But it's the stuff that's not replaceable that is going to be the stuff that really did you have [...] We're donating a bunch of the stuff that we are getting rid of.”

Wild NVIDIA Updates

Transitioning from personal stories to technological advancements, the hosts delve into NVIDIA's latest offerings, particularly focusing on the RTX 5090 and the groundbreaking DLSS4 technology.

• Introduction to RTX 5090 and DLSS4:
  Kevin introduces NVIDIA's new graphics card and its revolutionary features.

  “[60:07] A: So what does it look like? It's so fucking smooth. And it takes you from like 80 frames a second to like 270 frames a second.”

• Technological Breakthroughs:
  The discussion highlights how DLSS4 leverages advanced AI for frame generation, significantly enhancing gaming performance and visual fidelity.

  “[61:00] A: So what does it look like? It's so fucking smooth. And it takes you from like 80 frames a second to like 270 frames a second.”

• Implications for Gamers and AI Applications:
  They explore the broader implications of these advancements, including the integration of AI into gaming and other applications.

  “[63:07] B: But the 5090 is going to basically be the go-to card for AI locally because it's all. It's got all the AI cores in there.”

• Cost and Accessibility:
  Addressing the pricing and accessibility of the new hardware, the hosts discuss the value proposition for consumers.

  “[63:26] A: So it's a $1,500 card, so it’s five hundred less than the four thousand ninety. And it’s like blowing it out of the water.”

Lifestyle Adjustments and Upcoming Events

Beyond technology and personal challenges, Kevin and Alex share their experiences with lifestyle changes, particularly focusing on their commitment to Dry January and advancements in non-alcoholic beer alternatives.

• Dry January Reflections:
  Both hosts share their journeys through Dry January, discussing the challenges and strategies they employed to maintain their commitments.

  “[08:04] A: Delirious tremors.”

• Non-Alcoholic Beer Insights:
  They delve into the benefits of non-alcoholic beers, highlighting a study that showcases the gut health advantages comparable to regular beer without the negative health impacts.

  “[03:40] B: You know, I have my mom. I'm like, mom, you just deal with my heat.”

• Dignation Live Event Announcement:
  Excitement builds as the hosts announce their upcoming live event in Austin, Texas, scheduled for March 8th. They provide details about ticket availability, special guests, and what attendees can expect, including interactive segments and giveaways.

  “[21:22] A: 7 to 11pm Boom. Doors open at 6:00. It's 18 plus. [...] We have Mixmaster Mike, the Beastie Boys DJ, Tim Ferriss, Chris Sacca, and surprise guests.”

Concluding Thoughts

As the episode nears its end, Kevin and Alex reflect on the rapid advancements in AI and technology, the importance of personal growth amidst challenges, and the value of focusing on meaningful experiences over material possessions.

• Emphasis on Essentials Over Material Wealth:
  The hosts underscore the importance of prioritizing what truly matters in life, advocating for a minimalist approach in the face of adversity.

  “[36:39] B: That's so. Yeah, it's really interesting because you don't think it's like death by a thousand paper cuts.”

• Future Outlook on AI Integration:
  They express optimism about the seamless integration of AI into daily life while maintaining personal connections and values.

  “[90:36] A: It makes a lot of sense.”

• Final Remarks and Encouragement:
  Kevin and Alex wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to engage with their upcoming events and embrace the journey of personal and technological growth.

  “[98:07] A: And so the next four years are gonna probably cement crypto into a way that it can't be uncemented.”

Throughout the episode, notable quotes punctuate moments of humor, insight, and reflection, showcasing the dynamic chemistry between Kevin and Alex and their ability to intertwine personal narratives with broader technological discussions.

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Notable Quotes:

• AI Sex Bots:

  “[00:08] B: So when you squeeze different areas, it moans. Oh, my God.”

• Fires Rebooting Life:

  “[33:16] A: I just realized I didn't have a laptop. And also then a few hours later, another part of LA caught on fire.”

• NVIDIA Updates:

  “[60:07] A: So what does it look like? It's so fucking smooth. And it takes you from like 80 frames a second to like 270 frames a second.”

• Lifestyle Changes:

  “[03:40] B: You know, I have my mom. I'm like, mom, you just deal with my heat.”

These quotes encapsulate the essence of the episode, blending technical discussions with personal anecdotes and humor, making for an engaging and informative listen.

Transcript

[A]

There is a new Chinese sexbot with integrated AI. Whoa. It looks really real.

[B]

So when you squeeze different areas, it moans. Oh, my God.

[A]

I was like.

[B]

I was like, just hire an actress from the U.S. hire a porn actress for the U.S. just. Yeah, you could go on cyber.

[A]

He had a great voice, like 30 bucks.

[B]

The end of that video just said serving mankind. That's how they ended the video.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health.

[A]

All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house?

[B]

I've noticed in Australia, in Southern California, and I have proof.

[A]

You put zombie and you put eerie in the title and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. hello, friends and family. Welcome to Dignation. Episode number nine. I'm Kevin Rose.

[B]

And I'm Alex Albrecht. Dignation, of course, covers some of the hottest news stories all over the interworlds, as they're called. Nobody calls them that.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

We are going to start cyberspace. Cyberspace. We are coming to you from a makeshift. It's actually my mother in law's adu. So super sexy.

[A]

Very nice.

[B]

It is very nice.

[A]

Laundry within arm's reach. A fridge.

[B]

Fridge within arm's reach. A mal within arm's reach. A bathroom within arm's reach. Everything's within arm's reach.

[A]

My wide toe shoes. You know, I did not mean to wear these wide toe shoes.

[B]

I thought they looked very science fiction.

[A]

They are horrible.

[B]

They're not horrible.

[A]

They're my workout shoes and I had them and then I came here and then you comment on them and I realize they're going to be on the camera. My favorite has your fucking foot fetish site going.

[B]

My foot fetish?

[A]

Oh, have a only f of signups.

[B]

Thousands of signups. I don't know. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, Jesus. We have you make it like 100 grand a year.

[B]

We have a sign up and it's my mom. I'm like, mom, you just deal with my heat.

[A]

So do anyone sign up at all? Yeah. Really?

[B]

Really?

[A]

Oh, yeah. How much is it? Are you banking this Toe Tully rad shoe.

[B]

Oh, my God. OnlyFans. Totally rad shoe. That is genius, by the way. First off, we're gonna get into all the craziness that's been going on in and around Los Angeles. In and around ourselves, mostly Kevin, but also. Happy New Year, everybody.

[A]

Happy New Year.

[B]

I cannot believe it's been a full year.

[A]

First. It feels like a full year.

[B]

It feels like a full year.

[A]

First episode back.

[B]

First episode back. We are also recording mid January or not mid January. Late late January. So it is currently still dry January. Congratulations to you, sir.

[A]

I want to see. Well, first of all, cheers. Yeah. I will say before we get into the chaos, Deschutes was my hometown beer up in Portland.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I'm well versed in the world of Deschutes. It's my favorite beer. Meer Pond.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's Squeezy E ipa. Fresh squeezed IPA is fantastic. Is this a fresh squeeze? Yeah, this is a fresh squeeze. But this is non alcoholic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so this is good.

[B]

It's really. Right.

[A]

Non alcohol beers have gotten so much better.

[B]

So this is athletic brewing. Athletic brewing. And it's really interesting. I heard this interview that was about yeast, but it's going to make sense because essentially what happens is the way they do non alcoholic beer, the way they used to do nonalcoholic beer when it was like, you know, o'tools.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know what I mean was they would basically brew beer and then boil it and let the alcohol evaporate and then recarbonated it and try their best to recarbonate it. And then it tasted, like, horrible. Because they basically, you know, you're boiling the beer, you're boiling off a lot of the stuff and a lot of the, like, hops and all the flavors. What they do now is they actually use a yeast that doesn't turn sugars into alcohol and carbonation or CO2. They found they have a yeast that turns it into like, not methane, but something. It basically it digests the sugars the way we digest sugars. So it. So it. It does the same fermentation process, but it doesn't generate any ethanol or any alcohol. And then what they do is.

[A]

This does not sound good for your gut. Like, is this gonna.

[B]

No, it's actually good. So they did a study. No, no, check this out. They did a study where they had people drink one beer a day to see if it helped with their gut biome. Half of the people drank a single alcohol beer and half of the people drank a single non alcoholic beer. With this benefit of the. In the gut biome was the same and very beneficial to your gut biome of having a single beer. But you use the health. But the health benefits the same.

[A]

The benefit is the same and very beneficial.

[B]

It's. Yeah, it's all beneficial.

[A]

Wait, so all of it, like, any beer I drink is going to be good for my guy?

[B]

Correct.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

No, no, no. No alcohol beer or non alcohol beer, however, alcoholic beer then also has Negative impacts on your health outside of your gut biome.

[A]

I see.

[B]

So they were just studying the probiotic nature of beer, and they were saying, does non alcoholic, new non alcoholic beer have the same beneficial probiotic results as regular beer? And the answer is yes.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

All of that is to say, hey.

[A]

Beer, have you ever, like. I mean, you've had so much beer where it jacks up your stomach, right?

[B]

My stomach's never been.

[A]

You never been beer since then, Mal, have you ever had issues with beer?

[B]

Oh, I can't do. I can't do beer anymore.

[A]

I love these beer.

[B]

Interesting. Yeah, too well. But that's. I mean, think about it. When we were kids, like, kids. When we were. We were kids, we were at an alcohol approved age and also dumb and young.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I drank so much beer. I mean, dignation was, like, founded on beer. Was found literally founded on beer. Which, by the way, it was so funny because I remember the first episode, I just happened to get a case of Corona.

[A]

Oh, is that our first episode?

[B]

Yeah. And I was just like, hey, I just got a case of Corona. You want to have some beers while we do this? And we were like, yeah. All right, cut to the alcoholics doing it at breweries.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

We never brew our own. We never brewed our own beer, did we?

[A]

We had. Didn't we have a little pony cake or something? There was something. We did. We did some. I don't remember. We didn't. We didn't ever brew our own beer.

[B]

I brewed one for. I did a show called the Half Hour Happy Hour with Allison and Alex, and we went to Stone during Comic Con and we brewed our own beer, and it was really good.

[A]

Like, not one of those ones you get, like room and like, not room and board, but like the.

[B]

No, we went to Stone down in San Diego.

[A]

Oh, Stone's great.

[B]

And we had a whole vat to ourselves.

[A]

Is that in San Diego?

[B]

Yeah, Stone's in San Diego.

[A]

Jesus, I love San Diego and Stone.

[B]

We should go.

[A]

Yeah, I know. Stone's great.

[B]

I love Stone. We could do a show there, like, lickety split.

[A]

I would do that in a heartbeat. We just talked about your adventure, though.

[B]

So my adventure just.

[A]

I mean, before we go. Don't bury the.

[B]

Before we get. Yeah, okay. What's my. What's my adventure?

[A]

Your adventure is that you're alcohol free.

[B]

I mean, it's just dry.

[A]

January. I do it every January, but how hard is it?

[B]

So I think we talked about this on the show. I went two summers ago. I did four Months of no drinking.

[A]

That's impressive. But you have to go through some detox. You don't get anything. Like the bends or anything.

[B]

The bends? I mean. No, I wasn't in a small submarine and then immediately. And then accidentally came up too fast.

[A]

No, no, no, it's not the bends. I just stopped. What do they call it? What do they call it? They call it. There's a thing for it, the bends. The delirious tremors and shit.

[B]

No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not waking up with delirious tremors. That would be amazing.

[A]

Delirious tremors.

[B]

Yeah, the first withdrawals.

[A]

Withdrawals?

[B]

Yeah. The first night is always. It's always a little hard to go to sleep the first night. No, it is, because you're like. And you're like, my. I'm just awake.

[A]

No, but I know. I love that what you just recommend, what you just suggested was that you don't ever stop drinking because you're like. You know that time you take a day off? Oh, you know that first night when you're not having the drink.

[B]

So. Yes, that is true. No, I. That was my. That's always been. My biggest issue is, like, every time I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna not drink on the weekdays. Or, like, I'm gonna go every other week by the time 5:30 rolls around and you're like, I mean, what's one extra day?

[A]

6 o'clock is even worse.

[B]

I know. But then also, my wife, also, by the way, my wife went like three days in dry January and is now just still doing just regular January. Right. But it hasn't been hard this time around. I don't know why. It just seemed a little bit more like this would be a good idea. And then I had gone like a couple days, like six days. I know. Which sounds like. It's so funny hearing me talk about it. I went a whole six days without any alcohol. Can you imagine?

[A]

I just got used to it.

[B]

Yeah, it felt better. But I mean, the one thing I'll say is usually when I do dry January, it's hard. Especially with, like, Heather having, like, oh, I'm gonna have some Jack or whatever. This time it has not been. It's just been like, all right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I got. I got myself equipped. I got. And we're also doing, like. We're remodeling our kitchen so we, like, can't go in the front of our house. So we're sort of, like, sequestered in the back of the House.

[A]

So it also hurdles.

[B]

Everything's all mousetraps for yourself.

[A]

Leading up to the fridge.

[B]

Just put my hand. Oh, yeah, right. Dry January.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, what about you?

[A]

Well, so it's funny because I did this, like, kind of blowout fun party in sf, holiday party with some friends, and I had a few drinks, and I remember just waking up the next morning and just being like. I just. I just, like, it's. You know, when you get to the point where you're just, like, so saturated and you're like, december was a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, okay. And it was funny because a weird thing happened where I was like, I'm just actually not going to wait till January.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And I'm just going to kind of like, take. These last couple of weeks is kind of like, super easy. Like the last week and a half.

[B]

The last time I saw you in your place, you were like, oh, yeah, I haven't had something to drink in, like, 10 days.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so I started then. And then, you know, it's the same kind of situation where the first week and a half, you're just kind of like, oh, I guess you could have a drink here and there. And I would say that, you know, I haven't been in January. I've had probably two and a half drinks total. And then that's not. I mean, I had, like, a glass of wine one night, and that's kind of it. And. And I just realized that, like, it's this new chapter and this new kind of, like, going forward, I want to be about those special moments. It was like those, like, really, like, dignation will be those moments for me where we get together a couple times a month. We go out, we have a couple drinks. You know, maybe we have a drink with dinner afterwards. And it's like, that was fun. You know, I was funny. I was talking to my doctor about this, and he's like, dude, he hit me up. And he's like. He's like. Just so you know, like, I love a good cocktail.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's like, you just had to pick your battles as you get to his age. He's like, your liver enzymes are not as low as we'd like them to be. Like, a few things where it's like, it turns out when you're in your, like, mid to late 40s, like, you got to start paying a little bit more attention to this shit, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so anyway, I've been doing really well. Like, I've been meditating more than I Ever have like in a long time. I'm like really laser focused on that and that's been a good. I've been saving that for my like nighttime activity kind of unwind. And dude, I bought a face, which is amazing.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

No, this is like.

[B]

Is it called a face?

[A]

It is the nickname for it. Ah. And. But what it is, it's. My buddy Ryan Vance got it to me, the alien. I want to show you something. This I should have brought. It was so good. It is amazing.

[B]

You have something called a face fucker. Always bring it.

[A]

The alien creature. Yes, it's like the alien creature. It's. But done by therabody. You know the Theragun people?

[B]

Yeah, I love them.

[A]

Okay. So dude, I'm telling you, my buddy got me this. It was actually at that party in SF because we do this like secret. Yeah, exactly. Secret Santa shit. And there's this device that they came out with and it is. And he, he gifted to me, it's called Smart goggles. And it's like a lot of people call it the face. It's like they're kind of like. And I was like, what is this thing? And he said, dude, trust me. He's like, everyone I know loves this has a heart rate sensor built into it. You put your ear pods, your airpods in and then it has all these relaxing things. And dude, I was like, he gifted me and I never heard of it. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you look at that and you're like, okay, this is probably one of those things that like smart sharper image type shit where you're like, oh, is.

[B]

It gonna sky mall?

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Oh my God. But then I saw it was done by theragun and I'm like, they make good shit. You know, we like therapy. And so I got one. Well, I got it and it was like I put it on one night and the first thing it does, dude, is it clamps down on your face.

[B]

I don't know if I would use this. No.

[A]

Yeah, you might. It is a little claustrophobic. I'm spitting all over you guys.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

We're excited.

[A]

So your.

[B]

Your face is getting. I get it, I get it. So.

[A]

But then it just like squeezes your temples and it starts like pushing in really hard on your temples.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And then it starts massaging your nose and I'm like, what the is going on? And then the heat comes on it, this heat built into it and starts massaging and heating your face.

[B]

Oh my God. Dude, it is so relaxing.

[A]

It is.

[B]

How long do this believable go?

[A]

You can get away from like six minutes to 25.

[B]

Okay. And a lot of face. But it.

[A]

It really clamps down on you, like in a.

[B]

Doesn't that hurt? Doesn't.

[A]

It does a little bit, but. But it's kind of awesome.

[B]

It.

[A]

It does a little bit. It's kind of awesome. And. And so I have gifted these to a couple people. I got to get you one. And I. Dude, if you want to.

[B]

Give me a face.

[A]

What? Did you see that little device there? He set like a little device that's like. What does that thing do? It's transcribing. Oh, it's transcribing. Are you serious? Oh, amazing.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Hello, friend.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

There's new little AI thing sitting over there. I don't like it.

[B]

I don't even. So it's all of a sudden.

[A]

It's scary. It's not cheap. It's 109, 199. But dude, I gotta tell you, like, so it is your before heart rate, and then when you look at your phone afterwards, I always drop by at least 10 beats.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

During my session, my heart rate runs high. What's high for.

[B]

Well, I told you, I had this thing where, like, my watch would be like, hey, you're watching TV and your heart rate just hit 120 beats per minute.

[A]

My rest of the normal.

[B]

It's all right. I'm fine.

[A]

It's scary a little bit.

[B]

Nah, it's okay. Cause I've been to the doctor and like, they checked my, like, did a bunch of like, heart rate stuff.

[A]

Did they make you run on treadmill and shit?

[B]

No, I haven't done a stress test, but I also like, workout three days a week.

[A]

Yeah, you should stress test that. Have you had your APOB looked down all the time. Oh, yeah.

[B]

I forgot about apb. I didn't put anything out on my drug tests with an APB out later. But that's fucking.

[A]

It's really one of my favorite devices that I know that I needed.

[B]

Are you going to. Then you think kind of roll a little bit in past January then? Yeah, it's kind of like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think this is like the new normal relationship. Yeah, I think I need to.

[B]

Dude, that's great.

[A]

And I think what it is, is it's going to be about having those special moments with friends, you know, and it can be once a week, you know, and it's like where you go out and have a couple of drinks and like, but just knowing, like, hey, maybe two's enough, and maybe I have a couple glasses of water between if I'm gonna have that third. And just like getting really tactical about that shit, you know, that's the thing.

[B]

Is I always, you know, I always have these ideas. It's a little bit like, you know, what is it the plans? What's the battle plans quote like?

[A]

Oh, it's. Don't let good be the enemy of perfection.

[B]

Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good. Yes, yes.

[A]

That's good, right?

[B]

No, that wasn't at all what I was thinking, but we'll take it. No, but the whole thing is, for me, it's always like. I'm like, okay, I'm gon do. I'll do two glasses, right, of wine. So then I go to dinner and I'm having a glass of wine and I'm like, oh, this is great. And then I'm like, oh, well, you know, I'll have my two glasses. And then I get home and it's like, first off, I'm old Heather, and I eat like old people, like up. We eat at like TV 5:30.

[A]

Oh, yeah, everybody does that.

[B]

It's the. Not everybody. I like eating.

[A]

Well, like, I have kids and shit. They eat early. So.

[B]

Yeah, but, so, but it's crazy because I'll go. And then I get home and it's like 7:30 and I'm not gonna. We're not going to bed until 11. We're starting to watch our stories. I want to have more wine. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And so that's the problem is that it's really untenable for me to be like, I'm going to just have a couple glasses of wine because by the time it's like evening, and then God forbid I do Jack, because I just. That's a whole other thing.

[A]

You know what it is though? It's like for me, if I can say. Cause you're right. It's that 5:30 time that rolls around where you're like, okay, now is when I'm so It's like the Pavlovian dog situation where like, you know, you start to make the dog food and the dog salivates. Yeah. Just the sound of it, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like. It's like the hour hits and you're like. You're salivating and they go, oh, this is my de. Stress moment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you can get through that dinner and then say, hey, now I'm allowed to have that glass of wine with the show.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

That's a fun little strategy to just punt it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you have your two glasses, you watch your show, you've had a great time, you've de stressed, you've relaxed a little bit, then you're done.

[B]

Yeah, that actually is a really smart thing because I have not been. It has not been hard going out to dinner and just having, you know, sparkling water or whatever. It's like. It has not been a real hardship tour. The thing that's interesting, and I do want to talk about all the crazy shit that's been going on in your life, buddy, but I will say one of the New Year's resolutions, we're getting our kitchen redone. And so, like I said, we're sequestered. But also, we have no ability to cook food. So we're only really either going out to eat or ordering in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we makes it tough.

[A]

That's the world I'm in right now. Every single night. Because I'm living in a hotel right now.

[B]

Yeah. So it's like, what else?

[A]

Going out to eat and eating in. Yeah.

[B]

So one of the things that Heather and I have sort of said, our new New Year's resolution is going to be no takeout or delivery for 2025.

[A]

The whole year.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Dude, no fucking way you're doing that.

[B]

100%, dude. Because we have a new kitchen.

[A]

Let's put some money on that.

[B]

I'm in. Because we have a new kitchen. Right. And so the whole thing is we're either going out to eat, dude, Or I'm. Or we're cooking.

[A]

Have you seen Poly Market? Do you know about that?

[B]

Polywana Market?

[A]

No, Poly Market, it's like a predictions market. So the all in podcast is doing who we love. Good. Good folks. Yeah, yeah, they are doing. When they talk about a prediction, they launch it on polymarket and they get people to bet and take one side or the other. Different things.

[B]

Amazing.

[A]

Yeah, we gotta do this. We gotta do this.

[B]

Well, first off, yes, I'm in. Secondly, that'll make me. Do I get a cut if I succeed, or is it just polymarket? It's just people can bet on it.

[A]

Well, so they have their own dedicated section here. I'll talk to Jason.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Find out about it.

[A]

Figure out how we can get involved in this.

[B]

But then also, I will only do it if we can find one for you to do as well.

[A]

What do you mean for me to do?

[B]

Like, I'm happy to put my poly. You know, put my money where my mouth is, but I want to know. You got to pick something that you're gonna do in 2025.

[A]

Oh, no, I'm just saying like anytime we come up with something, remember like seven years ago you were like, I'm like, there's gonna come up with the Apple TV and physical tv and you're like, no way.

[B]

Oh, right.

[A]

We could have put that on polymarket and then have them like. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[B]

Because I won that. Still winning. Still winning.

[A]

Okay, so my crazy news.

[B]

Yes. Jesus.

[A]

So this is insane. Oh, God. Okay, so I was at a top secret meeting that will be announced more at our live event. Live. Dignation is still happening, people.

[B]

Yep. Baby, I almost called everybody. But in a good way.

[A]

Listen, come on, you can say that now.

[B]

Get your ticket.

[A]

Everything's allowed, everything's loud. Nothing's on the table anymore. So this is the deal. We're like 87% sold out or something.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

All the, all the, the VIP is sold out. But we do have some. I mean the, I would argue in some way the non VIP tickets are even better because you're like closer to the stage. It has its own bar, it has bathrooms. Everything's really nice. This whole soup to nuts of the event is going to be awesome.

[B]

And we're not going anywhere. That is what we're going to be doing.

[A]

We're not going.

[B]

No, no, no, no. I mean it's not like we're going to do the show and fuck off to like some. No, we. I promise. Poly Mark that. Oh. Or whatever it's called.

[A]

So it says few tickets left. Look at it, it's got a little tag added automatically.

[B]

Hurry up.

[A]

So Austin, Texas. March. Saturday, March 8th.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

7 to 11pm Boom. Doors open at 6:00. It's 18 plus. You don't have to, you know, buy a drink or, or, or whatever, but the tickets come with a free drink. It can be non alcoholic or alcoholic. I will actually be consuming alcohol during that show.

[B]

I will.

[A]

It's going to be awesome. We have Mixmaster Mike. The Beastie Boys DJ is confirmed. He's playing a set after dignation. Tim Ferriss is going to be up there on stage. Chris Sacca, who is a, you know, insane little is going to be there.

[B]

By the way, that was a great post that you did.

[A]

Oh, with his shirt that he sent me. Yeah.

[B]

So great.

[A]

People know him from Shark Tank. He's an old homie. He's awesome. Dude. He's going to be there. I've got a couple other surprise guests are going to Come on stage. Just some people that it's going to be fun to hang out with, like you guys are going to have. Because this isn't about just like, oh, look at that crazy celebrity person on stage. They're going to be wandering around saying hi to folks. Not that we need to see celebrities, but they're more celebrities. Like tech celebrity fun people that are coming out.

[B]

So it's gonna be.

[A]

It's gonna be chill, it's gonna be fun, and we're gonna have a blast. We're gonna be throwing out some swag bags to people in the audience. We've got some pretty big announcements that are related to stuff. Stuff.

[B]

So you were in a secret meeting? Not I was in a secret meeting.

[A]

Back to the story, Monica. Okay, so anyway, get your tickets, go to dignation show at the top header. Just lock them in. And then if it says sold out by the time you get this, one of the things that I talked to Maggie, who's running the event, she says, listen, there's a little bit of extra capacity. We could open up another 100 tickets. But I didn't want to because I was like, you know what? Let's not make this a sardine fest.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you have a little bit of room for everybody. You know, like, the bathroom line's not like 30 people long. Screw all that. Like, we want to like this to be a fun experience. Less is more in some sense. But at the same time, some people are going to be peeling off at different times for different events. It's south by. It's crazy. We'll have a line also for free people if you want to. Like, if you missed out. But I mean, tickets on.

[B]

Oh, that's great, that's great.

[A]

But if you missed out and you're like, hey, I want to get in still. I'm coming a little bit late. Love it. But I just want to catch, you know, Tim or Mick Master or I want to come halfway through dignation because I couldn't make it or whatever. Don't feel like you can just come show up, stand in line, and we'll get you in as people circle out. So love it. It's going to be fun. What's that?

[B]

Get your rooms now selling out.

[A]

Oh, on the eventbrite page, which is linked to on that website I said, which will be in the show notes, we have several hotel options. So for people who are saying, like, hey, it might be too expensive for me, here's the cool thing. Obviously, Southwest tickets to get out there is dirt cheap still there Were there are rooms going from 500 plus, which is like super nice fancy down to. We found and we booked in some book like group rates. And Maggie's really good at this where she gets hotels that are like 250 bucks a night. And she'll get them down. It will say, hey, we'll commit.

[B]

Does that say 179 a night?

[A]

139 a night for this one here, which is only six miles from the venue, which is. And she's only picking cute little batiki hotels.

[B]

So it's not like you're awesome, I gotta meet her.

[A]

But it's not like you're staying in like the like Best Western or whatever, you know. Although one is the holiday in the airport.

[B]

But hey man, you'll be there.

[A]

Hey, you can do that. Vending machines outside maybe.

[B]

It's cute.

[A]

It's gonna be cute. So it's gonna be fun though. You guys just come out, hang with us.

[B]

My folks drink with us.

[A]

Yeah, Mike, my kids will be there in. In. Your kids are gonna be there. They are. They're gonna see me first time on stage.

[B]

They're gonna be at the show.

[A]

Yeah, dude, freaking seven and five.

[B]

Oh boy.

[A]

And they'll have little ear things and I mean they may not stay for the whole thing. I'll have a nanny there and ear things.

[B]

Do they have like chatgpt filtering out any profanity?

[A]

We cuss around our kids.

[B]

Oh yeah, we just say.

[A]

We say grown up words. Like Nova said something the other day. Like she said something that was like a shit show or something. Or there was something where it was like, you know, they just don't know what is a cuss word.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

And then I was like, first of all, that's the worst kind of show. And second, you shouldn't say that word. But like, you know, like there's certain things and then like, oh, I got it. That's a grown up.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Y And so like that's how we handle it. Cuz like, come on, you're going to.

[B]

Hear a lot of grown up worlds.

[A]

She's going to go back to the back catalog of dignation and she's going to be like, daddy, what's railing? Something. Good lord.

[B]

No, Just no. Don't even think about it. La la la la la.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So back catalog is nothing.

[A]

Back catalog means nothing. Although I had some fun.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

What happened? Yes, I'm driving back from that secret, super secret meeting. I see all this smoke like coming from a general part of where I live.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I'm like, okay, that's not good. And all these cars are pulling over and taking photos because it's kind of overlooking that area because, like, you know, la. Hilly like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I like. So I'm like, okay, well, I'm not gonna go down. I'm gonna pull over for a second. I look, and I was like, oh, shit. Like, that's like, you know, I don't know, maybe like a mile away from where I live up in the hills. I saw this, like, some helicopters coming. I'm like, okay, well, maybe let's dump some water and we'll be done, you know? And then I looked up and I saw some of the palm trees. They were just like, yeah, because the winds.

[B]

Windy, like.

[A]

And I'm like, oh. And so I called Daria, and I'm like, do you know what's going on? She's like, no, I'm just, like. Just, like, chilling downstairs at the house. I'm like, go on the roof and, like, see if what you can see. And she's like, oh, my God. Like, this is massive. And so I'm like, okay, I'm heading to grab the kids because the kids at school was nearby.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And so I just, like, fly as fast as I can. I get up there, I'm Grab the kids. They're already starting to evacuate. Kids. Throw the kids in the car. And I didn't want to go back to the house because I thought to myself, like, I just. I had the kids in the car.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I had the suv. And no offense to my wife, she's been in the car accident, like, three times the last six months. I love her to pieces, but things were safe.

[B]

Let's just say.

[A]

Let's just say the driving, it's like, if she had the kids and there was, like, a yard to go over. Ah, I'm gonna go over the yard.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, bust through. And, like. And, like, she'd be like, should I make a right? And I'm like, that's not.

[B]

So if you had gone home, she would have taken the kids and then you would have taken the stuff.

[A]

She should have taken the kids and just headed out.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

And then I should have. She had Toaster in the car, and I should have gone back to the house and gotcha.

[B]

And gotcha. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But we didn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we went to a hotel just, like, literally, like, two miles away. And we're like, oh, I'll just grab a room, because this will probably be over in, like, Six hours, and we'll just, like, go back to our house. And then it was, like, clear. Like, a few. Like, even, like an hour later. I was like, ooh, this thing. This. This bitch is spreading, you know? And. And then I. Weird stuff started happening because I had the Ubiquiti cameras, and I started seeing, like. Like, just like, ash, you know? And I'm like, oh, shit, that's not good. Like, ash is coming. And then my indoor house, air purification, little guys. I have these little Mila air purifiers, which are pretty awesome. They're not that expensive. They're actually really cheap compared to a lot of the competitors out there. And they, like, spiked like. Like indoor air quality.

[B]

Like, boom.

[A]

Like, through the roof. And then WI fi and power got went out, right? I'm like, okay, all right, well, what do we have there? And Daria grabbed a few things. I had this little tiny micro safe, and I was like, grab some stuff there. She, like, didn't think we were gonna, like, so she just grabbed a handful of things, like, basically, like. Yeah.

[B]

She had said on the phone that she didn't even take her purse.

[A]

No, she didn't take her purse. She lost her id. It's crazy. She. She lost her wedding ring. And. And then, you know, a couple days go by, and we still don't know because they're like, oh, the fires are, like, spread all over the area.

[B]

I was watching the map the whole time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like. I kept going, like, two blocks away. I was like, that's Kevin's house.

[A]

Yeah. Well, they had the red line, like, right next to my house, like, two.

[B]

Blocks away from it.

[A]

And then I was like, for a long time. For a long time. Because they didn't update it for, like, hours.

[B]

He's good.

[A]

And then there was, like, update. It was like, red.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, oh, Jesus. You know, and so, you know, it's. I. I still. Glenn. Hippie Glenn. I was like, which friend of mine is going to be the craziest? And I'm like, glenn? And so I called Glenn up, and I'm like, dude, do you want to do, like, a Rambo mission with me and, like, you know, break some laws and, like, find out if my house is still there?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And he's like, yeah, of course I'm sure. Yeah. He goes, oh, you told me later. He's on some shit. He's like, I'm sorry we didn't show up yesterday. I was like, microdosing, so I'm like, I didn't even notice. Like, it was typical Glenn, you know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But, like, we basically, like, knocked on doors, and nobody would answer, so we were like, okay, well. Well, they're abandoned, so we're gonna cut through their backyard.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

And hop fences, because there were all these perimeter chests.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And this was after the fire had kind of gone through, like, call it, like, three days later, and. But there was still smoking embers everywhere. And I have some footage I haven't sent out Malison to use and throw some stuff in there because it was kind of nuts. And so Glenn and I get pretty close, but we're still, like, two miles away. And he brought his drone with him, and I'm like, okay, we don't want to fly drones high enough to, like, interfere with any of the, like, aircraft and jets, but they weren't really dumping water there because it was already kind of passed through.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they put this block so no drones could fly.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[A]

So they can shut down dji. And so he couldn't get it, and he had a hack to get around it because there's, like, firmware you can do to, like, get around those, like, things. But he had to get cell service to enable the hack, and he didn't have. We didn't have cell phone service because the cell phone towers were burnt up around. So anyway, long story short, we ended up cutting through this back forest area, and we were, like, pulling on rope vines because it's kind of up on a hill. So I'm, like, climbing the side of this thing, and, like, I had to be like, dude, don't step on that Amber there. It's smoking. And we're, like, going through. And eventually we popped up over the side, and I. I swear he was like, an. A bomb had gone off. Like, it was, like, just flat. And then all there was was, like, chimneys. And I'm like, okay, well, you're like.

[B]

Mine'S in there somewhere.

[A]

Well, my house was, like, only 3 years old, so I was like, okay, well, maybe because of. Because I know that, like, when I bought it from the, like. Well, the cool thing about this house is, like, it has these things where when. Like, the air intake ducts have this special material now in new modern homes where they put out embers.

[B]

Yeah. Because they set air in getting into the attic.

[A]

Exactly. And so it would put out embers. And so I was like, well, maybe there's a chance, because, like, one in, like, 30 homes up there were, like, kind of standing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I couldn't find the house at first because all of the streets were just, like, flat, so you don't have street signs. And I'm like, which street was. It's, like, kind of hard. It's very disorienting. Interesting to know where you live.

[B]

Yeah. When no land. Yeah.

[A]

You recognize. And so eventually I was like, oh, I'm one block over. And then I saw my wall, which was. Looked perfect. And I was like, okay, cool. And I walked up to the gate, and I opened up the gate, and it was just a crater.

[B]

Just a crater. Dude, I saw the video on Instagram. It was bonkers.

[A]

Oh, dude, I can't even tell you. I mean, obviously I didn't record the moment when I walked up to it, because the thing that hit me more than anything El else that was the toughest was mostly nothing about the stuff that you think people that have money matters.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, don't get me wrong, there's some good Harlan estate up there that was like. There was some good wine in that. That cellar.

[B]

I thought about that. Me as the wine connoisseur was like, the wine.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. You're like, I could have gotten.

[B]

Oh, my God, so much drinking.

[A]

But it was like. Honestly, the things that hit me most were the first Father's Day cards that my kids have given me. They wrote their names all messed up and stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. My dad since passed away, as, you know, and there was a jewelry box that he had made me when I was younger just to hold some of my stuff. And there was a kid's little desk that I'd handed down to my kids that he made from scratch. This really cool kind of folding and morphing desk because he was a woodworker and he loved doing that stuff. And like, like. And then you remember those things every few days.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Of, like, stuff that you're like, oh, shit. Like, the other day I was like, oh, I would have been aging. And this sounds silly, but I've been aging a Pu Erh tea collection and coffee collection for 15 years now. And this was tea that Tim and I gathered in the Yunnan province of China together, where we took a bus, like, for several days to get out there and then hand picked it, you know? And it's like, as it ages, it gets better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, you know, that's not expensive stuff, but it's stuff that means something to you, you know? And so it was nothing about the laptops or the, you know, all the other stuff, actually, that felt very freeing in a way. I was like, it's funny because, like, I literally bought this shirt at Target, and it was like, I realized, like, I don't need any of this stuff. None of this. The expensive stuff makes you happy.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's like the little things, like, just the. I had. I had made a cross stitch duck for my dad when I was like, eight, and I always meant to put it in his casket. And at one point I was like. Because he loved it, you know, and at one point I was like, I'm gonna bring this back to his tombstone and, like, leave it there at some point. And, like, that went up in flames, you know, and there's all those little things. We were just like, oh, those were so meaningful to me. In the garage, we had some letters from the 1800s that had been written to my great grandma that were just, like, very historic. We had one family book that was like, had gone back talking about family origins, where some of my family had come from, from, like, you know, Germany and England and like, you know, some of those kind of things that were pretty interesting to, like. I would have loved to have, like, eventually dumped that into chat GPT and learned a lot more about my lineage. And. And that all that stuff is just gone. And so there's like a. A very, like, great forcing function around the lesson of it and permanence on everything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and that's very aligned with, like, Buddhist philosophies and a lot of the Zen meditation that I subscribe to. And. And. And I was able, thankfully, in some weird way, to feel both sad by the loss of these very important sentimental things, but also very light on my feet and that I didn't have the. I don't need this luxury. I went too far.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

You know, and you know me, I'm not driving Lambos and shit. I had a Tesla and a freaking BMW standard family suv. But, like, I did go too far. Like, I. I just bought a lot of. That is just, like, unnecessary now. So when I'm thinking about rebuilding my life, I'm very much going back to, like, how can I get back to the essentials and not just, like, take it to. To that degree that I did before?

[B]

That's so. Yeah, it's really interesting because you don't think it's like death by a thousand paper cuts. Right?

[A]

Oh, my God. It's a. There's a mental burden. Little tiny micro things that you own.

[B]

And you don't even know it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You wouldn't even know it because they're so minute that none. No specific one is sort of a burden enough for you to even recognize it exists. But in total it can become this weird thing where you're like, what is this feeling that I have about.

[A]

Dude, I had this lens, this camera lens for a Leica camera, which all my Leica cameras went up, which is only like three of them. But I mean, that's still a lot of Leica cameras. But. But I had this one lens that I bought for a thousand dollars in Japan 15 years ago or whatever. And now it became really sought after. And it's like. Cause it's old vintage, like this badass, like super good bokeh. Just a really cool classic look. And it went up to four grand. Cause they only made 100 of them. And on eBay it was like four grand. I was like, oh, I gotta sell this shit, you know? So I took like photos of it and like, blah, blah, and I list it. And then some scammer like won it and then never paid me.

[B]

And I'm like.

[A]

And then I relisted it and something similar kind of happened. The guy's like, whoa, can you take three? After he bought it, I'm like this, like, it's so hard to sell anything, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, oh God. And like. But it's a thousand little things where you're like, another have so much. If I even have wanted to downsize. Yeah, that's like a year long process to get rid of all that.

[B]

You're literally trying to get rid of one, right? And they were like, no, keep it. You're like, but I really don't want it.

[A]

I know, but it's like. But then this, the, the second thing that hit me, which was really bizarre, was not bizarre, but just like, like it meant something. Which was when this was all happening, I realized I didn't have a laptop. And also then a few hours later, another part of LA caught on fire.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

You know, and. And in that neighborhood was a lot less affluent.

[B]

Yeah, that's the Alta Dina fire.

[A]

Yeah. And they didn't have a whole lot of money.

[B]

Or the Eaton fire.

[A]

Yeah, the Eaton fire. And I, and I. And I was watching the TV of those people and I was just like. I literally walked into an Apple store the same day my house burned down. And I bought a new air. And I was like, how fucking lucky am I to be able to do that? And I'm watching people on the TV that don't even know where they're gonna sleep that night.

[B]

We have friends that have set up like, gofundmes and stuff like that. And we're sending them stuff like, because we're redoing our kitchen. We got rid of a bunch of shit because like you. How much shit did you put in the back of the cabinet over your fridge 15, 20 years ago that you haven't fucking seen? And then when you pull everything out, you're like, what the fuck is this? Like, where, what even is this? So we're donating a bunch of the stuff that we are getting rid of.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And even stuff that we wouldn't have gotten rid of. But we're like, dude, somebody else can take this because it's totally true. You're in a very fortunate situation where you can replace most of the things that are just replaceable with cash.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But it's the stuff that's not replaceable that is going to be the stuff that really did you have where like periodically stuff would pop up. Because it happened to me.

[A]

Oh, all the time for you?

[B]

Like, there were times when I'd just be sitting there and be like, oh, like I was thinking of the Bruce Lee.

[A]

The Bruce Lee business card. Yeah. I mean I had a lot of those.

[B]

Like, it just hit me where I was like his, because this. Oh, dude, I had Bruce. Okay, here's one white, one black.

[A]

The worst.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

X Men number one.

[B]

Oh my God. I was just thinking about that too.

[A]

Michael Jordan rookie card. Yes.

[B]

You showed me after this.

[A]

The original Spider man. First appearance of him burned. All my first X Men or my first Wolverines burned. I just had those in a drawer. And I was just like, you know, I mean, don't get me wrong, this was like a CGC 1.7 on the. As Spider Man. It was $3,000. Yeah, it was just like gone. But like, like at the same time, dude. Back to that. That people across the other side of la. It's like all of that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's just money. And it's like. And I know that sounds like a very luxurious thing to say, but like, honestly, if my kids are okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And we had a bunch of people sending us stuff in the mail. Thank you, Sarah. You know who you are. She hooked us up with a bunch of like she had a bunch of stuff that she wasn't using anymore and she sent to us furniture wise and a bunch of other stuff that she was just gonna sell anyway. Oh, great. And some of it didn't fit into our temporary thing that we're gonna get into because it's small. And she was like, hey, just donate it to Anybody in the area. And we've already donated some of that stuff that didn't make it into our stuff. And so I've been taking and re donating a bunch of that stuff. But like, like, I don't know, man. It's like it's, it just, it just, it reboots your, your whole thinking on, on what's important.

[B]

So interesting.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, look, at the end of the day, you know, it also, it should act as a warning to anybody that's in, in an area that could even potentially. Because pal stage was not something on my list of fire danger. You know what I mean? Even in Los Angeles, even though it has happened in the past, in the 70s there's a big Malibu fire that wiped out, you know, almost all the PCH stage. But it really does go to show. Like you should have a thought of what it is you want to take. Like. Yeah, those things that are going to be the things that are going to be important.

[A]

So I've got three takeaways that are. That I think are pretty interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

One is don't count on fireproof states at your house, especially those cheap ones because ours melted and lost everything inside that. Fireproof. Yeah.

[B]

Which was funny when you told me that because we have a fireproof safe. And I was like gonna walk away and be like, safe's fine. It was like, that's not what they're.

[A]

No, they, they can stay on like an hour, but if it's like intense like that, they just won't. The second thing is like obviously take pictures of all the important stuff, like your kids stuff, things like that. Then I was locked out of Coinbase and they're asking for hardware keys which I didn't have. And so what I did is I found this, which is actually kind of interesting. Your old wallet, my old wall. This is a FIDO2 key that can be used for any two factor auth. So you know how you have hardware keys that you touch with your finger, like on the side. I have those two. But this one here in particular is an NFC based one. So if you got a new phone, so don't think of it as like plugging into the side of your computer.

[B]

Like it's so.

[A]

But what you do is like say, okay, I'm on. Like I just did this this morning. I'm on Apple. I have the two factor auth security key stuff on Apple because I'm super paranoid and I turn it on and I, of course I have my little USB C hardware keys. That stick in my thing. But if I ever losses again, it's boom and I'm opt in. And this sits in my wallet. Right. And even if I lose my wallet, no one's gonna know my password or any of the other shit. So they're not gonna get in. Yeah, but it's just like an extra thing to have that you all most likely have on your person if you're just running out of the house.

[B]

Yeah. Wow.

[A]

And so if you have hardware keys, something like this, I think I just got this on Amazon. It's called crypto Crypt Knox Fido key. And I think it's like 50 bucks or whatever. But it's just like a good thing to have if you do hardware based keys. That was a good one. And then there was one more one that was really interesting. Let's see, I got the picture of the stuff, the hardware keys. Yeah, I think those are the. Well, the insurance policy stuff's a whole nother thing. That's a shit dude, we talked about.

[B]

On the fucking show that you had. You went like a week without fucking house insurance for that house.

[A]

Yeah. Then we finally got. I got upgraded to a better plan, thankfully. But here's the other thing. Dude, all my crypto keys are in a safety deposit box and it was in the. It was next to my house.

[B]

Oh no.

[A]

And so. But they were punched into like stealing. I still haven't been able to get back into them, But I heard the bank didn't burn down, so it's fine. Yeah, but what's interesting is in times like that, you almost want your keys like at least 50 miles away.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not near your home.

[B]

No, I mean, honestly, they talk about like the redundancy when it comes to things like that. It's like second location. But second location doesn't mean your neighbor's house. You know what I mean? So like second location is far enough away that a natural disaster can't affect both places.

[A]

Exactly, exactly. So that was one thing where I was like, oh, interesting. Like I should, I have to rethink that. It just makes you rethink. Oh, and then the other thing too is like I was like, okay, well what if I had not had a way to get back into my iPhone? Like if I left my iPhone or something and then I had those two factor keys set up and you know, and so I'm like, okay, well what about photo backup? Because that's the most important thing is those family photos and stuff taken. And so I basically put on Google advanced protection on a new GMAIL account that's hidden, not used for normal email. And then say Google Photos, go ahead and back up all my iPhone photos just to have those. The kid photos. Redundancy. This makes you think about redundancy in completely different ways. But anyway, it's been. It's been nuts.

[B]

Fucking hell. Well, I'm glad you guys are okay.

[A]

Yeah, we're good.

[B]

Sorry that all that stuff went up in smoke, but it also sounds like your head's on in a good place. I sent you a picture of my kitchen. Cause it was like, where are we gonna shoot dignation? Your house? And I was like, well, and I sent a picture of my wall missing. And you literally. Kevin, it was like two weeks after your house went up and you're like, looks like my house. And I was like, too soon, Kevin. Too soon.

[A]

Well, dude, here's the deal, man. It's like, like, as someone that grew up, it. I guess that really depends on what your. Your expectations and comfort is for. Like, just life in general. Like, I. When I was 14ish, my dad had to go through bankruptcy. We lost one of our cars. You know, we. We didn't really. You know, when I was younger than that and he was having a hard time finding work, you know, we had our Thanksgiving dinner delivered by the church one year. And like when you have. Have that as your starting point.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And you. Everything has been gravy ever since, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so like, for me, I'm just like. Like I can sleep on this couch tonight and be totally chill.

[B]

Yeah, that's it.

[A]

You know? You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, totally.

[A]

I mean, as long as I have my Apple, it's like, I need some.

[B]

I got my brand new Apple iPad.

[A]

Couple things.

[B]

Look, we're not exactly.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you play his iPhone?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But just the necessities. Yeah, but you know what I mean, it's like, that is. I think that's. If you just come back to that, you're in a pretty good place. My wife.

[B]

Different. Different. How's she doing?

[A]

She had some handbags she liked, you know, but.

[B]

Well, you should buy the handbag.

[A]

She's getting there. They never give you the replacement cost for all the stuff on the insurance.

[B]

Dude, I can't even. I don't even wan know how.

[A]

It's me and spreadsheets going through and being like, okay, that was a Christmas gift that. That got burned. Boom, send over. And it's just like a lot of piecemeal kind of stuff and they want proof of a lot of that stuff, you know?

[B]

Yeah. So one of the things that they had said. So. So we had friends that were evacuated from the Eaton fire in Altadena, and they actually came and stayed with us on Wednesday through Saturday, and their house is fine, thankfully.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

But they were going through fires out.

[A]

You don't think you have knock on wood at this point?

[B]

Well, I mean, I don't know when the next one's gonna pop. There was one that just popped in.

[A]

Oh, I saw that. Okay. Yeah, good.

[B]

By. Yeah. By Magic Mountain. Anyway. But one of the things that they had said on the news was they were like, when you're going to leave your house, just take a video of every room.

[A]

That's.

[B]

Walk in and take a video of every room.

[A]

I did that. Yes. A step more. Put it in slow motion so it does the high frame rate.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, interesting. Because if as you're going through, there's a lot of blur.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[A]

And just go wide angle and just walk through everything.

[B]

Yeah. Because you can basically just go, here is me leaving. Here's that piece of art. Guarantee it was in the house. This is me walking out the door.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, here's that couch. Here's that. Whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Open all the cabinets, Open all the drawers, all the cabinets, all the cozy. Because it'll only take you, you know, 20, 30 minutes. Minutes to walk through your house and just open everything.

[A]

You know what, my dad used to do that with like. Like, camera photos back in the day. And then he would know what camera statue photos to take with him. But, like, if you think about it, you could just walk around your house and do that. Put a reminder once a quarter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just to go and do that even once a year. Whatever.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

And just images. Tell ChatGPT to log everything. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know what's funny is I had all my new podcasts here, kind of, like, positioned outside of the podcast room, and I had taken a picture because Reid Hoffman was the last guest. And thankfully, we got that footage off of the cameras and Gabby took it with her. So we'll release one more episode from that house soon. But, like, in the photo Reid and I took together, you can see all the gear in the rack mount behind it. I'm like, yeah, it's like, just like another thing we'd be able to submit is, like, proof that I actually had it.

[B]

God.

[A]

But yeah. It's insane, dude. And my heart goes out to all those that were. Were impacted by this, because I know it's not lost on me for sure, that, like, you know, just the fact that we could get a hotel room that night and just not worry. Honestly, like, that's. It's a huge, huge gift. But, yeah. And Toaster is stoked. Fucking dude. No, he's stoked because the kids are now eating from this little tiny table on the ground. He's already stolen, like, so much fucking eggs and pancakes and shit, dude.

[B]

Toaster's like, this is great, man. My house is so big, I barely wanted to go downstairs. Like, this is rad.

[A]

That's your 14 year old toast. He's lost all sense of, like, what's, like. He's like, I'm just gonna steal from here.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He's in looting mode.

[B]

He's like, I gotta get as much as I can while I'm here.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Oh, my God. All right, well, congratulations for being here and making it through.

[A]

Glad to be here.

[B]

Yeah, it's been. It's been a while. Well, obviously, sorry that it took us a while to get this most recent episode up for reasons.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

As it were. But let's get into the show now that we've done a full show.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, we've done a full show.

[B]

Episode 10. Here we go.

[A]

So this was, you know, obviously in January. Ces Huge.

[B]

Which, of course, we would have been talking about all this crazy CES stuff. And we have a couple things to talk about. Ces.

[A]

I think a couple things worth mentioning. CES wise one. For me, I'm always looking at the stuff and I'm like, okay, new doorknob that can unlock doors. And, like, there's always that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, bigger tv.

[B]

You know, it's like, I always want a bigger tv.

[A]

Yeah, I know. But it's like most of the stuff is like that. Oh, deeper color blacks. Okay.

[B]

Deeper color black.

[A]

That's what they do.

[B]

Pretty soon you're like, I can't even see those blacks.

[A]

Exactly. So don't. We keep on social. So basically, the one thing where I was like, this is cool. Was the new Lenovo laptops that expand out.

[B]

You told me about these.

[A]

Yeah. So here is a video of the new Lenovo laptops that I think is one of the coolest things. I've never wanted to, like, move away from a MacBook till I saw this.

[B]

So it. It like.

[A]

Like it grows, dude. It's like a laptop that can, like, get excited first off.

[B]

So it. It is. It rolled up.

[A]

So it's rolled up inside. And then why is the guy putting his hand out oh, don't throw his hand.

[B]

Oh, he is. He's going like this.

[A]

Oh, now he's moving it up with his hand. I mean, that was. I mean, you can just hit a button to go up. Why do you have to hold your hand, get it scanned? You have to roll it up.

[B]

Because you can't. Because Windows. Windows stuff, they always add those little screws, dude, it just keeps going. It's like Willy Wonka up half his face.

[A]

I mean, don't use your hand again, dude.

[B]

Yeah, there's literally praying to it. It is time.

[A]

Yeah, it's like Obi Wan Kenobi in that shit. So, actually, the first obvious feature is we have this flexible panel. This is the first obvious feature.

[B]

Yeah, it's giant. Well, first off, it's hysterical because it's like twice the size and I can just imagine accidentally just closing it and this fucking lift is hanging out.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. So you may have noticed my laptop.

[B]

Well, it's funny because this PC that I have here. Oh, it's dusty in here. Nobody comes in here because there's. Nobody stays here. But anyway, it's so old, it's like. I mean, it's really slow to even do dignation, which is literally four tabs.

[A]

Click on the Apple thing. What do you got going on under the hood, this Mac. Okay, Big Sir. You're a Big sir, dude.

[B]

Bro, I use it for this show. That's it.

[A]

You. You're on Big Sir.

[B]

Is that good?

[A]

No, that's like OS, like, 10 years ago.

[B]

OS 10 years ago. Processor 2.3.

[A]

Oh, he's on Intel.

[B]

Intel i5.

[A]

Oh, Jesus. He's on a celeron and shit.

[B]

I'm not on Celron. It's a Pentium.

[A]

It's basically a celeron.

[B]

Well, anyway, it's. This is. This is done. It's time for you.

[A]

We're doing sponsors soon.

[B]

Oh, maybe Lenovo will sponsor with the.

[A]

Dude, I want one of these.

[B]

I would totally have one of those. I just burped and it was really disgusting. I don't know.

[A]

Okay, just keep it that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is the first time where we've been like, dude, I might move to this computer because I need a little bit more real estate.

[B]

So it's interesting because I noticed your previous computer, which is no longer with us, you did the top. You do the tall monitor.

[A]

Yes, that monitor is no longer with us as well.

[B]

Rest in peace. Yeah, because I do this. I do the wide monitor for gaming.

[A]

And I also had one of Those.

[B]

Oh God damn. We're gonna be doing that a lot.

[A]

Sorry, can I get another Shoots. Not alcoholic.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I need to kill the pain with 0.01%.

[B]

He needs to get a buzz.

[A]

I might have to chug 12 of these bitches to get something going on.

[B]

I got some rubbing alcohol in the bathroom.

[A]

Whatever it takes. Hydrogen peroxide. Let's do a little Tide pods.

[B]

Fucking go. Oh God, that'd be amazing. They would sponsored by Tide. Yeah. Oh my God.

[A]

Anyway, it would be a really funny like if you just made like a fake Tide pod for like ravers. No, no, no, no. It's just like you made a fake Tide pod candy that you, that you give out of like Halloween.

[B]

So the parents are like, someone gave my kid a Tide pod and you're like fucking Got you.

[A]

Dude. It's nerves.

[B]

Yeah. It's nerds.

[A]

Someone should do that.

[B]

I mean someone probably.

[A]

No. Cause they'll get them mixed up.

[B]

This is the problem.

[A]

That's why the Tide pod can't taste like the other one.

[B]

But it's not about tasting, it's about trying.

[A]

I don't know. Anyway, that was a bad idea.

[B]

Yeah. Don't listen to the Kevin.

[A]

I've already had a second.

[B]

Yeah, he's had too many non alcoholic beers. I totally would put this here is okay. Oh yes. On my couch. I guess I totally would. Would rock that laptop. So that was the question. What? What's the benefit of the tall screen?

[A]

It's called screen real estate. Which gives you more ability to browse and check.

[B]

Browse and email more. Got it. I get it.

[A]

Did you really ask that question?

[B]

Well, because I don't. I never understood it because I was.

[A]

Like I don't understand why this way versus this way.

[B]

Yeah. Because I have an ultra wide and it's great.

[A]

So I did have the X. You pointed out. You had a great point. I had this external monitor that if you came to my house, it looks kind of weird because it is that aspect ratio of that taller screen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for me you can just get more of a web page on there. And so it's kind of like it's. Why do we need to go wide on screens? If you really think about it, I think gaming is probably better like that.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's more of a left or right peripheral vision.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. And so when you go taller, I was just dragging full windows and then like to see a hundred scrolling.

[B]

You're just reading.

[A]

Exactly, exactly. So I think work wise it is a better device browsing modality. Why are we getting. We're getting smarter when we're not drunk. I'm, like, using, like.

[B]

I don't. I don't know why that would happen, Kevin.

[A]

It's so funny. Yeah, I've done that. Not often, right? No, not often. Well, my ipods are. It's okay. But I did have. I did have that. Yes.

[B]

I had. I have a. I got an iPad Pro. Like one of the. The biggie ones with the pen. Yeah, it's nice, but I just don't ever have an opportunity to, like, I just. I sit at my gaming.

[A]

Problem with buying.

[B]

You have it, then once you buy it, you have it.

[A]

No, I know, but that. This is why I'm just like, I. So it's funny. Like, the natural reaction for me would be, oh, I had XYZ go replace those things.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

[B]

Because, like, interesting. You're like, if you weren't using this.

[A]

I use an iPad before, like, twice a year.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

You know, and I hit the OS up there. I'm like, oh, cool. And then I'm like, oh, maybe this will be my la. It never is.

[B]

It never is. It's just not a fucking laptop. And I got the keyboard attached to it. Why am I here?

[A]

I move the little mouse. I'm like, look at how it locks the things. It's like, you know?

[B]

And I'm like, look, a pen. I can write. I hate writing. I fucking hate writing.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And then I lose the pen, too. It's like, I don't want to write. That's why I have a computer. I know my handwriting's horrible. I'm like a doctor, but you see.

[A]

What I'm saying, dude, I love it.

[B]

I'm in.

[A]

Okay, I want to see when this launches, but I'll let you continue. I'll check on our expanding laptops.

[B]

So thank you for checking on our expanding laptops. So also following on CES and for us gamers of the group, Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 review. Brutally fast, but DLSS4 is the game changer. I saw the announcements for first off, we knew that the. The 5 series or the 50 series graphics cards were going to be coming up from Nvidia. I don't think anybody understood. Nvidia has. First off, Nvidia basically supplies 99% of all the AI chips on the planet, right? They are like Mr. And Mrs. AI and they've sort of put a little bit of AI stuff into their into their graphics cards before. You know, DL. DLSS is ostensibly sort of machine learning AI, you know, kind of thing.

[A]

Accelerators.

[B]

Yeah. Where it basically it kind of interpolates. What? So rather than the graphic card actually generating the, the pixels or the nanites, I guess now it ends up sort of interpolating what would be between the two frames.

[A]

Oh, these are upscalers or what are these?

[B]

Essentially they're like fancy machine learning upscalers. So that's what DLSS has sort of been in the past. No, I don't think anybody was prepared for what they dropped at CES with the DLSS4. Because it is basically pure AI. What the fuck do they call it? Multi something.

[A]

Multimodal.

[B]

No, it's a word. But it is a word. It is a word. It's fucking God damn. Frame generate. Multi frame generation. So basically what it's doing is in real time, it is both generating the pixels of the game through the game engine the way that we, you know, traditional graphics cards use, you know, make the polys do all the things. But it's also at the same time using these AI tensor cores to create generative AI in inner frames. So they're basically multiplying the frames between the frames that the graphics card is generating to increase the frame rate by supplanting those frames with AI generated frames.

[A]

So what does it look like?

[B]

It's so fucking smooth. And it takes you from like 80 frames a second to like 270 frames a second.

[A]

Holy shit. Most the human eye can't even perceive that.

[B]

So this is the thing I don't understand in gaming. Cause I think it's like 60 frames a second is the human eyes max. You can feel it, but you can feel it. Cinema is based on, we thought 24 frames. Yeah.

[A]

But then you see 120 frames or more and you're like, oh, this feels different.

[B]

Yeah. And when you look. And by the way, 240 is sort of the standard for gaming right now. The 240Hz. So. But the thing that's crazy about this whole thing, the 4090 is the like creme de la creme. Right now that's out 2 grand for the card. The 5070 is $500.

[A]

$400, 400 premium over the 40 90.

[B]

No, no, that's different. That's the, that's the 50 90.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The, the, the, the 5070, their low end 50 series card is like 595, I think, something like that. Okay, 6, 5. 600 bucks? Yeah, it is 30% more performative with DLSS 4 than the 4090.

[A]

When did the 4090 come out?

[B]

Year and a half ago. Two years ago.

[A]

How many spoits then? So that's kind of a leap, dude.

[B]

But the 501. Oh, the 500. Their lowest one. The lowest.

[A]

Oh, so in some sense you just like pretend like this didn't come out just by the 501.

[B]

This is what I'm saying.

[A]

So what do you have?

[B]

Well, I'm still at the 3080.

[A]

Oh, so you could get the 501.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. You could get the 501. But again, the thing is that's the secret sauce of the DLS, the DLSS4. Because what happens is the actual raw compute power versus the 4090 is like not. I mean, it's. They're just. 4900 is a beast.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it's like, think about it like, you know, a diesel engine, right? Like, it's just pure brute force. It's giving you the pixels that you're asking for at the time you're asking.

[A]

Oh, dude. I'm excited because I like to also play around with AI stuff on my computer, run my own localized.

[B]

But the 5090 is going to basically be the go to card for AI locally because it's all. It's got all the AI cores in there. Yeah, it's got like. I mean, it's crazy. And it's fifteen hundred dollars. So it's five hundred less than the four thousand ninety. And it's like blowing it out of the water.

[A]

I mean, this is a good lineup for pretty much anybody. Like, you got. You got great price points here with a lot of performance at each level.

[B]

The entry level gaming card right now in this new generation is going to be absurd compared. I mean, like, it'll blow mine out of the water. And I spent $1,600 on it, you know, three years ago when I was building my PC.

[A]

So here's the deal. Before I approach this new Zen minimalist world, which you'll get to which I had committed to building a new PC this year. Yes. Because I wanted to have a proper gaming rig. And so I had already ordered some of the components. I ordered the Ryzen 9800X3D.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

This is like two days before my house burned down. I ordered it.

[B]

Oh, dear.

[A]

But I'm grandfather dead. Hey, you know what? So I have to do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I got the case. Looks dope.

[B]

The case is dope.

[A]

We got to show the video of the case. The case is.

[B]

I honestly was looking at that case. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So with the wood. Looks good.

[B]

So great.

[A]

Anyway, I wanted to build a proper game because I haven't in so long. And also I. I told my oldest, Zelda, she's getting into computers now where she's like, she just got her first keyboard and so she's like, pretty stoked. And I didn't get her the Apple when I got the, like the cheap one. Just, I'm like, if you learn how to type, I'll get you the one. Like, you know, the built in one. And so she's like, really excited about. So I'm excited. I showed her the computer case and I'm like, it's empty, but we're gonna put a computer in here. So she's like, oh, they, by the.

[B]

Way, they made it when I built mine. Like I said it was about three years ago. It had been a while since I had built a PC from scratch. They've really made it very easy. It's still technically, you know, the same stuff. Like, it still feels like it used to feel. Yeah, but it's less, you know. Like, I remember those days when you would like find a, you know, a 12K mouse driver or like a 7K mouse driver for your PC that you could then load and the game would load because there wasn't enough load RAM for the thing, so you could have to like get smaller. Yeah, I, that stuff is always just like. So, like, it's just, it's.

[A]

We.

[B]

We grew up at the perfect time, honestly, for, for technology. Because it really felt like we got the best of both worlds. We got that world where you had to think about what it is that you wanted to do to entertain yourself.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But then now we're at the point where we have all the entertainment we could ever want at our fingertips. Like, we are bridging the gap, dude.

[A]

The number one question my kids ask me is what do I do? Like, when they don't have something to do, they're like, what do I do?

[B]

My buddy was telling me the same thing.

[A]

Don't do anything, like, sit and think.

[B]

About your life, child.

[A]

Yeah, what do I do? Do you get that a lot now? What do I do? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. He's got, he's got flute and like he goes to instruments now, which is great. So there is a distraction that is not social media for him. Yeah, yeah, that is the.

[B]

That is an. Like, that is the. That's such an interesting thing to, To Like, I don't remember as a kid ever trying to figure out what to do.

[A]

No, because we just went in the backyard, made dirt clods and threw them at people and shit.

[B]

Yeah, like, that was the thing. What do. I don't. What do I do? Go the outside. Figure it out.

[A]

Yeah, I would just go outside and it's like. Like destroy ant hills and shit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Play G.I.

[A]

Joes. Yeah. Down. It's being okay with being bored, not. Not needing the constant input. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That constant stimulation is something that.

[A]

Although I've been playing Roblox with my kids.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

It's fun.

[B]

Dude. Games are fun.

[A]

They're like silly little games, but they're fun. And they love it when Dad's playing with them.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

I think it's the coolest thing, but.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it's crazy. Anyway, so, new graphics cards.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Very excited. You will have one in your new PC. I'm sure I'll be getting one soon.

[A]

Very excited. Okay, moving on to new announcements around but not presented at ces, there is a new Chinese sex bot with integrated AI.

[B]

Ah, so.

[A]

So that is Japanese.

[B]

Ah, so I don't know what the Chinese. Good.

[A]

So the Chinese sexbot mega producer says his next generation AI bots are on the way. Future versions of the dolls will be able to perform housework. They could one day compete with Tesla's humanoid robots in, like, a fight in.

[B]

Some sort of, like, competition reality show or something.

[A]

But these are, like, from the ground up, meant to be sexy, sexy, sexy bots. And so.

[B]

So is this sort of like that company that makes, what is it, real dolls? They've been talking about putting AI in their dolls at. At some point. I mean, I know they're working on it, but not. Not because I'm subscribed to any newsletters that they submit, but I've been told that they're working on it by others.

[A]

I don't know how this applies to that fetish, but like, this. This is more like integrating a lot of the mod. So the large. We talked about this before where these. These LLMs that are having these conversations, if you take off the guardrails, they get really nasty really fast.

[B]

That's amazing.

[A]

And so.

[B]

Well, also, if they're making their own LLM, they're choosing what the guardrails are.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Those guardrails for the sexbot, I'm sure, are not as honed as guardrails for, like, claw.

[A]

Dude, we will have to buy one of these and have it Be guest on the show.

[B]

Oh my God. That's what we have to do. We have interview a Chinese sex bot.

[A]

Like during live dignation or something.

[B]

That would be amazing. By the way, I already know what.

[A]

They'Re going to say cuz I've. I've been there with them.

[B]

No, you got to do so here. Find the cuz. I remember I looked at this article before. Find the company name. I think it's like sky something.

[A]

Well, they're £88.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, it's kind of perfect.

[B]

I love that you have a decision.

[A]

I meant for portability.

[B]

Go up. Oh, there it. I watched this because I was like, oh, they're good. Just putting AI. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. And then this. I was like, this voice killed me. This is the moaning voice. Just wait.

[A]

Whoa. It looks really real.

[B]

That's the English version. So when you squeeze different areas, they. It moans. Oh my God. But the. The English voice, I was like, just hire someone from the us the me.

[A]

Love you long time voice is nice when you want.

[B]

And she goes back to English.

[A]

First of all, she's creepy as well.

[B]

I mean, he works at a Chinese sex doll factory. Is he holding the voice back? Yeah, he's holding the voice box. Box. Here we go. Oh, she. I thought she talked again.

[A]

I was like, I was like, just.

[B]

Hire an actress from the U.S. hire a porn actress for the U.S. just. You can go on Fiverr, by the.

[A]

Way, get a great voice. About like 30 bucks.

[B]

The end of that video, just say said serving mankind. That's how they ended the video. Serving mankind. Oh. So yes, when this company has AI Chat integration, we would love to have the first AI Sexbot on our show just to see how she feels about her new line.

[A]

Good job. Yeah. You know, what if it removes sex workers from the street and it makes it, you know, kind of like, you know, less STDs and things like.

[B]

I mean, honestly, there's a lot of upside. I mean, we talked about this when we first were talking about it, which is like there are people who have hard time making human connections with the opposite sex. And I think there is a situation where things like this could be very therapeutic for certain people. You know what I mean?

[A]

Let me ask you a question.

[B]

Oh, yeah. All right.

[A]

20 years from now, we're still alive, probably, God willing. And at that point, these bots will be walking in this room.

[B]

Room, yeah.

[A]

And just being like, what's up guys? Dignation time. And like, have a seat and crack a beer.

[B]

Okay. I mean like, first off, you're wasting beer. That is not for you.

[A]

Probably for you. But like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. But yeah, opening it for me, I'd be, oh, thank you.

[A]

Exactly. But I'm just saying, like, if it is that mobile and natural.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you're like, this is a human. Would you buy one as just like a fun companion to hang with?

[B]

I think there will be a time in which, yes, I would want to purchase. Not a sex bot, per se.

[A]

What if they had a sexy bot mode?

[B]

I mean, I'm sure they would all come with that just as standard operating procedure.

[A]

Jailbreak. Yeah, it wouldn't be a jailbreak. It'd be like.

[B]

I mean, look, if I had after hours. Look. Well, first off, then there would be the conversation with your. With my wife.

[A]

That's what I was going to get into.

[B]

Do we have hunky guy? You know, do we have the one from.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's just as likely that we would hire the guy from Outlander than we would, you know, the Chinese chick.

[A]

Wait, who's the guy? My wife likes that one dude. The Jason Momoa.

[B]

Wow, interesting.

[A]

Wait, is that the big buff dude? The stallion. The stallion that mounted the earth on.

[B]

The stallion that mounted the.

[A]

Oh, yeah, from Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah. Is that him?

[B]

Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Okay, so if I'm laying in bed and he comes in, he's like, you.

[B]

Know you have to take your meds before you sleep, right? Yes. Jason Momoa. All right, all right, I'll be back downstairs with Dark.

[A]

What if he's like, scoot over. Yeah, let me get in the middle there. I just. Like, Jesus Christ. Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

That would be amazing. He'd be Jason Mahmoud, but I would be scared. So here's the thing, because again, if. Let's say it is just like the Amazon Alexa. Because that's where my brain was going. Like, at a certain point, it will be the same as an Alexa. Alexa or. Or a Roomba. Everybody will just be like, oh, you don't have a Roomba.

[A]

Oh, I see.

[B]

Everybody will have them again without the sex stuff. Just as like, person that does the sexy stuff built. But what I'm saying is, if you're gonna bring. If you're gonna go buy an Alexa or a Roomba, and it's gonna have either tits or a dick. You're gonna have to have the conversation with your wife of, hey, I was thinking we should get a Roomba because everybody gets a Roomba. Okay, Are we getting tits? Are we getting a dick?

[A]

Yeah, but you know what it'll be. It'll be like when you hire a nanny, where they'll be like, get the ugly one.

[B]

Get the first. Get the ugly. That's what. That would be amazing. Doubtfire comes in. What the fuck?

[A]

I am telling you now, we might have to believe some of this, but this is real talk. Anytime you're hiring a nanny with, like, a significant other, they always want a less attractive nanny in the house. I mean, I've been like, a hot nanny.

[B]

I get well again. Because it's like, the same. It's the opposite. And you're, like, hiring a. Like a home masseuse.

[A]

But that's what I'm saying.

[B]

You'd be like, I want. You're gonna hire the guy that looks like Willem Dafoe?

[A]

Please. Yeah. So you're probably gonna get the Mrs. Doubtfire version.

[B]

Yeah, but see, this is the thing.

[A]

I bet you could be into that.

[B]

Well, I'm just saying, you go big a lot of things. Plus replaceable faces. I mean, come on. Swappable faces.

[A]

It just sounds.

[B]

You'll just have a drawer that'll have, like, the slimmer cut.

[A]

Yeah, but then you gotta, like, refill it with stuff. I just. I don't want to. It sounds horrible.

[B]

I mean, I don't. That didn't seem like it would be enough for me to be like, oh, hey, put your clothes Back on, Mrs. Top.

[A]

Yeah, I just don't. I have to imagine, though, there's going.

[B]

To be a world where a thousand percent we are going to be able. I mean, it's. It's happening too fast. Like, I think there's a world in which there will be humanoid robots that are coming in and doing menial tasks.

[A]

Blade Runner. We know how this ends.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Skin jobs. I mean, honestly. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's gonna get there real quick. Real quick. I think It'll be like 10 years, dude.

[B]

I mean, I don't disagree with you the way it's happening. And I mean, one of the other stories, which we'll jump into the story right now, because it has a little bit. Well, a lot to do with AI. What Lucid's partnership with Soundhound means for Lucid stuff. So, you know. Lucid?

[A]

Yeah. I thought they were out of business.

[B]

No, no, no. That's. What was the one that just went out of business.

[A]

Lucid hasn't been doing that well.

[B]

No, Lucid's okay. Luc's doing okay. It was the Oceania. What was that? What company was that? Not Polestar. Fuck. What's the Ocean? Oceania.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Well, you're at Google, that's why I asked.

[A]

Well, sorry, I was looking at Lucid's stock price.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway. Fisker.

[A]

Fisker, that's right.

[B]

That when I was.

[A]

Yeah, they're gone.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, they're gone. No. So Lucid make really good cars. Really high range, luxury. I mean, very luxury.

[A]

Luxury car. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But what they did was they had Amazon Alexa in their cars. They've now switched out from Amazon Alexa to SoundHound AI that does a. Basically a ChatGPT type LLM voice to text AI assistant. So to me, it's the first car that I know of that's actually adopting an AI voice assistant as their voice commanding system for their car. Because if you think about it like, well, you have a BMW, right? It's got voice assist.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When was the last time you fucking hit the voice assist button?

[A]

About 10 minutes ago. Ago.

[B]

Really? Do you use it?

[A]

Because I have Siri now is built into it.

[B]

See, this is the thing we've talked about how Siri is like versus ChatGPT or some of the other LLMs. So to think about not having Siri built into your car, but having a chatgpt type, right?

[A]

Oh, it's so much better. Yeah.

[B]

But then it brings up the question. I'm not concerned that Siri is going to lock my car, start the engine, turn on the AC. Weird. Should I be worried that maybe ChatGPT or something like an AI assistant would go off the rails a little bit?

[A]

It's firewalled away from the major components of the car.

[B]

I mean, I'm assuming. Yeah, but like, I would ask it to turn up the temperature.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

So that means it's got access to the temperature.

[A]

Yeah, but worst case, you're like, it's a little hot.

[B]

I know, but I'm just saying, like, hey, Lucid, what the are you doing? It's so hot.

[A]

You like it hot?

[B]

Like, first off, that's for the sex bot at home. Home, not for my car.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

You don't have the ports yet. But it's interesting to me because again, I may be wrong, but this is the first time I've heard of a car manufacturer baking in an LLM voice assistant using AI, not just sort of the, you know, whatever the quote unquote secret sauce is of Alexa or Siri.

[A]

I mean, you have to imagine given Elon with XAI and Tesla. Yeah, that's like got to be less.

[B]

Than a year out oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I think this is gonna be the first thing to fall. But it also just kind of gets to that place of like. You know, we talk about this with. When we talked about Siri and Apple Intelligence, which is like, okay, but it's still not the thing that we want.

[A]

It still keeps telling me, like, I found a result before you go once a while.

[B]

Well, now it's like, I don't know, do you want me to talk to ChatGPT? And I was like, well, dude, why aren't you just chatgpt?

[A]

Yeah, well, they just. I don't know if you saw this, but even today they made an announcement that they. There's this fixer inside of Apple. It's like this one, this one woman that basically they just, like, assigned to, like, shit that's broken, and they just moved her over to Apple Intelligence.

[B]

Oh, that makes sense because they were all fucking in on it. Like, you can't even. No AD happens doesn't just mention Apple.

[A]

Yeah, but they kind of see they were in a really tough position because they were. Clearly. They missed it.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[A]

And so they're just playing catch up in. I mean, Apple will get there.

[B]

Yeah. Of course.

[A]

It's just going to be probably another three years until they have.

[B]

Usually Apple waits until they can do it right. So they can do it like Apple. They don't get into the business. They let Chromecast exist before they're like, okay, here's an Apple tv.

[A]

Right. But everybody else is doing it so.

[B]

Awesomely and it's just so fast. I think it's just because AI is just so fast.

[A]

Exactly. They're not used to that. They're used to seeing a shitty product come out and being like, we can do this better. Spending three to four years of doing it better and then launching. And we were like, wow, it's an order of magnitude better than what you're done.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And because it's funny, when I was talking to Reid on the podcast about this, he was mentioning, like, AI is very much constant deployment, iterative development. Right. Like, they're leapfrogging each other every other week. So it's not like we're sitting here and like, oh, product comes out. Cool, cool. We wait for a few years and then the next thing is like, few years. You can't even slow down. You can't take your foot off the gas right now.

[B]

I mean, honestly, it's like every week there's something. Every day there's something, oh, dude, have.

[A]

You played with the freaking Operator. Yeah. Have you played with it?

[B]

No, not yet. We were just talking about it. We were like, I wonder if Kevin's played with it.

[A]

Let me see. I do have a pro cam.

[B]

I see. Operator.

[A]

Yeah, I have it, dude, the pro count.

[B]

That'd be amazing if it's like, we're wiping your hard drive.

[A]

It's like, yeah, yeah, here it is. Get started, Operator. Some friends of mine were using it today and they sent me videos and it's like, holy.

[B]

So this is the thing where it basically, basically can do things on your computer for you, right?

[A]

Yes, it's.

[B]

We talked about. What was that?

[A]

No, Claude did one.

[B]

Yeah, but it's not.

[A]

This is supposed to be way better than Claude's. Although I will say I've been using Claude's models the other day for a few other things and I. Claude, it's good. Yeah, it's good. I dumped an American Express year long of American Express transaction spreadsheet into it. I was like, find me everything that I can claim is reimbursable via, you know, that will be covered by this policy. It was like, like freaking writing code and spitting me back a spreadsheet. I was like, holy. And all the others failed at it. Yeah. I was like, that's the weird thing about this AI world. It's like some of them. It's funny, Jason Kelly Council was just talking about this where he was saying that like the $20 model from Gemini, we kind of have to have all these subscriptions out because some. You have to know where you have to be smart enough now sadly still on these days days to know I have this task. This is the model I need to.

[B]

Go apply to make it the best. Yeah.

[A]

And so this deep research right here from Gemini is apparently amazing. So what it does is it starts and says, okay, I want to rem. You say, I want to remodel my kitchen. How do I go about doing that? Right, which is what you're doing.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like gonna ask, but.

[A]

But typically Claude, which is. Or any of these would just come in be like, well, typically remodel is like, yeah, yeah. And so what it can do is you can say like, I want to remodel. I live in this side of la. Here are the shortages. Like it will break these into sub components and then spits off separate AI is to go and do their own independent research, including searching the web. And then this model brings it all together. It gives you like this like. Like forced a research level report. Like analysts had worked on it for days back to. To you. And, and, and that's kind of what. Have you seen 4O actually working? So this is the $200 model right here per month. One where you say, have you seen the difference between.

[B]

No.

[A]

So, yeah. So basically you can choose. Sorry, 0101 Pro Mode.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember, you see how it kind of.

[A]

Slowly does the, the thinking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We were talking about this on the previous show where like some of these models now are going to be about sending a job and like coming back in a week and getting like the full on answers. It's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, well, this is the one. There was one that you were talking about that like was like a thousand bucks a question or something like that.

[A]

Like that. That's where some of them are going.

[B]

Which is so crazy.

[A]

Depending on how deep you want to.

[B]

Go, I was going to say. And if the question is that valuable to have the. A good answer, there are worlds in which that's what you're going to end up doing. You know what I mean? Which is crazy to me. I can't even believe it.

[A]

So nuts.

[B]

Anyway, you have to tell me how operator goes. Anyway, so that's lucid.

[A]

Yeah, we're gonna see this. This is gonna be a domino thing, right?

[B]

Like all of them, I mean they're. And then like, you know, at CES there's so many cars that got, that got shown. There was the, the Sony one.

[A]

Oh, we're gonna talk about that.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

It's one of my stories.

[B]

Well, let's bring it up.

[A]

All right. Next story of the day. So obviously we don't get into a lot of political stuff on the show here, but I will say it's been a whirlwind of shit going on, obviously in the United States, Trump took office. US SEC is kind of under new guidance to make a pro crypto America, which I think in many ways is. Is digital first. I mean, it's crypto.

[B]

I mean, that was when we made the sort of tongue in cheek jump about the fact that after the election, the bitcoin, I mean it's still. Bitcoin is at like 105k.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think a coin, which is crazy that it's actually not only hit 100, but it's staying at 100 and it's saying over 100. So what, what's the SEC change that happened?

[A]

So they revoked this regulation that was in place where it was added in 2022 that forced banks to treat crypto. And I don't know if it's just BTC or not. Yeah, it's crypto and other tokens as a liability on their balance sheets versus just an asset on their balance sheets. Like. Like any other currency would be interesting.

[B]

So even. I mean, I get why that may have been in place because of the volatility of it. But then again, if you're holding, you know, Venezuelan dollars. You know what I mean? Or like, you know, dollars or not dollars, but, you know, whatever the currency is of other countries that are just as volatile as crypto, it's interesting that they would have been handcuffed into having to say that this was actually a liability instead of it being an asset, which is. It is.

[A]

Yeah. That's. The whole thing is like, this unlocks banks now, to hold crypto. Like, there is a world where you say you. And this is old school combined with new school, but you walk into a bank, you give them 500 in cash and say, deposit in my account as Bitcoin, and it just, like, happens.

[B]

I mean, honestly, that's what people. I mean, that's what Coinbase sort of did, right. Was to step up. And actually, I think the interview was on foundation back in the day when the guy from. Who founded Grace was on and talking about how he was like, the goal is, is that your mom could go and get Bitcoin without having to be, like, knowledgeable about.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And hold it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so to be able to, like, walk into a Wells Fargo and go, hey, I want to get into crypto. Here's, you know, take half a percent of my holdings and put it into BTC so I can see stuff. Not having to invest it into, like, one of the ETFs or. Right. That would be. Well, that's pretty interesting.

[A]

It is really interesting because that's. There's been these little hacks and workarounds where you can say, like, okay, I want to get paid into btc. And there's been these little third parties where you can direct deposit your money in there and then they convert it and they do a buy for you. And it's like there's a world where it's a lot more seamless than that. Right. It's like you could log in in a future world into, you know, a Wells Fargo or Bank of America or one of the, you know, Chase.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And see, oh, here's my BTC account.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just like I say, on a checking account.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's just. I hold my. My Bitcoin there and I can write a check and it will just like.

[B]

Dude, being able to write a check off your bitcoin, oh, my God, that would be amazing. I mean, this is.

[A]

Nobody used to do that. It's weird. It's like old school.

[B]

No, but. But people would be like, I don't want bitcoin, I want a check. And so you write a check, and when they cash the check, they immediately sell bitcoin and.

[A]

No, they would receive bitcoin back.

[B]

No, not them. Not the check owner. Like, if I. Let's say I hire a plumber, he's like, I want to check. And all my holdings are in btc and I write a Wells Fargo check, right? The moment that person cashes that check, Wells Fargo sells and sells exactly that.

[A]

Well, what if you could write in bitcoin? My partner's like, hey, it'll be 0.07 SATs. Like, yeah.

[B]

Because the guy's like, oh, man, this dishwasher's fucked. I mean, we're talking half a satisfaction.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Maybe a quarter sad. If you're lucky. If I have the part of my truck, it's only a quarter sad.

[A]

But otherwise.

[B]

Jesus.

[A]

Way cheap.

[B]

But yeah, that's way cheap.

[A]

This is a tenth of a bitcoin right here. Oh, God.

[B]

You bought a. You bought a Samsung, that might be a whole bitcoin. I gotta route the whole plummet through.

[A]

The floor, I'm telling you, man.

[B]

But that's the thing that would. Honestly, that's the thing that most of the people who are, like, the true believers of bitcoin as a currency that could be used for goods and services, that's the last bastion of the stepping point. I mean, cash app has it, like all these places where you can kind of do it, but you're sort of half doing it. As you said, it's not institutionalized.

[A]

Well, I just think that, you know, digital currencies like to act. That's. It shouldn't even be a question mark anymore, whether that's the future.

[B]

Our dollars are digital currencies.

[A]

They are digital already.

[B]

I mean, when was the last time you took money out to somebody?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, that's called a run on the bank. Which would never work, right. If everyone went to Wells Fargo right now to go get their money out. They don't have the money.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's like. It's literally digital zeros and ones, right?

[B]

They're like, we'll send it to wherever you'd like us to send.

[A]

Right, exactly. So in some sense, it's just kind of like really making it on the Blockchain, which is great. So we can actually have a ledger of that stuff. So. So we can see more transparency. Yeah, But I think if Trump. The thing where I think bitcoin really flies is if Trump actually decides to hold it at the global reserves level.

[B]

Level. Yeah.

[A]

Because, you know, we. Our reserves are made up of a bunch of different stuff. And, you know, obviously we have our own dollar and there's gold and a bunch of stuff, but they were talking about taking all the seized bitcoins that America has, which is. There's a decent sum and just putting that into the. Into the global reserve as like a way to hedge. It's brilliant, dude. It's brilliant.

[B]

Well, what else are they doing with it? Like, if they have this. This asset, I mean, are they selling it off? Like, auctioning it like they would a boat? You know what I mean? Or they are.

[A]

They auction it off. That's what they've done done to date.

[B]

Interesting. So the. So literally just giving them the right to be, like, hold it as a currency, like the cash that they're seas, rather than just liquidating it and turning it into cash and putting the cash in the reserve. Yeah, I don't know why they wouldn't do that.

[A]

Yeah, it makes. It makes a lot of sense.

[B]

So that's interesting. Interesting. That's gonna be an interesting for crypto.

[A]

It's gonna be crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

[A]

The next four years are gonna probably cement crypto into a way that it can't be uncemented.

[B]

Meaning, like, interesting.

[A]

If we get enough mass adoption and integration of crypto into all the things that we do over the next four years. Yeah, like, there's no. I. I don't think there's any going back now, but like, I just. Yeah, it's. It's. I think. I think net net. It's a. It's a good thing. I. Obviously, with any currency. Oh, of course there is volatility. I just. I. Well, volatility. But also I just hate this argument where they're like, well, money laundering and all that. And it's. It's digital, all that. I'm like, you know, I don't go, you can't go pay for a prostitute in bitcoin. Like, you can't. I can't go to my, like, drug dealer on the corner and like, paying bitcoin. You know, it's like, maybe I can now. But like, I'm just saying, like, it's. It's way easier.

[B]

All for all said and done, cash is cash.

[A]

Cash is Cash. It's not exactly largely untraceable. Like, if anything, Bitcoin is like a public ledger that's going to be way easier to account for eventually with AI and everything else going on to analyze where things are moving.

[B]

I mean, I think it's just. It's the old boogeyman tactic of. It's like, oh, crypto. It's the dark web. You can buy children on the dark Crypto. Oh, my God. Well, there's lots of crazy going on. I just paid for questionable thing with.

[A]

Four questionable things yesterday.

[B]

Setting up a new plex server.

[A]

News groups.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Pirating. And.

[B]

Yeah, a lot of the indexes are still like, here's a QR code.

[A]

So you Doge.

[B]

They wanted Doge. Yeah, Doge. That's so weird.

[A]

You want a Doge.

[B]

That's so cute.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. What do you mean about the Trump coin in the Melania coin?

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Did you buy any? Did you buy any?

[B]

Of course not. Jesus Christ.

[A]

That's crazy. I didn't buy it either.

[B]

All right, let's talk about a cucumber shortage real quick.

[A]

Cucumbers.

[B]

And then we'll be done. Cucumber shortages in Iceland blamed on TikTok craze. The first. First time we have experienced something like this is said by one of the leaders of Iceland. Have you guys seen these C. First off, cucumbers are amazing. Can we just talk about that?

[A]

I love cucumbers.

[B]

Mandolining a cucumber and then putting some salt and pepper, oil and vinegar in it.

[A]

Where's the mandolin?

[B]

Oh, it's a. It's like a slicer. It's like. I have a Japanese mandolin. Oh, yeah.

[A]

I like the. The vinegar ones where they. Like them a little vinegary.

[B]

Oh, dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The kimchi, the radishes and the cucumber. Kimchi. My favorite kind of kimchi.

[A]

Yeah, Tajin. I put Tajin on mine. Tajin.

[B]

I like, like. I like. Cucumbers are great. Cucumbers are great, by the way. You just slice up a cucumber, put in a thing. Salt, pepper, oil, vinegar, feta. You're great. You're great. Avocado. It's great. It's like the easiest salad to make. So TikTok had exploded with. There's this one specific Canadian tiktoker who basically was like, everybody should just eat a whole cucumber. And so he basically does these, like, very sort of methodical, cool, cool flavor combinations. And he makes these cucumber salads, basically, and then eats them throughout the day. It exploded. Well, exploded so much so that there's actually now a cucumber shortage in Iceland because not many people were eating cucumbers before, so they were bringing in the appropriate amount of Iceland. Of cucumbers to Iceland, and now there's actually a shortage going on.

[A]

Do they grow cucumbers in Iceland?

[B]

I think they might. I think they might. I don't know if it says that they have to do them. It was more about why there's a shortage, less about where they come from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's very interesting because I have seen this guy's tick tocks and I have done them because, again, you have. Oh, of course. Because it's like. It's great. He. Because he does all these different. Different. He does. So it looks like they do farm them.

[A]

Yeah. Ingredients, as it says.

[B]

Yeah, because it says that there's a. The horticulturalist sales company sfg, Iceland's Farmers association, told the BBC that the shortage of the vegetables and that the farmers were unable to keep up with the spiraling demand for cucumbers. So they probably have to bring cucumbers in. And by the way, you're in Iceland, like, shit's expensive, I'm assuming. You know what I mean? Mean. But it's crazy to me that cucumbers, I guess, wasn't that big of a thing. And now because of this TikTok sort of viral rage of. And by the way. Yes to viral rage of healthy food choices. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not like beer bongs, you know what I mean, have gone crazy. It's literally eating healthy tide pods or Tide pods. It's eating cucumbers. So there is a downside to successful TikTok culinary expertise.

[A]

I think that's. What do you think about TikTok sticking around now, too? Are you. Are you happy?

[B]

I mean, to be honest, I think I was. I have been. I realized that I was into not. Not doom scrolling in the way of, like, doom scrolling. I've blown a lot of time just sitting. Like, I'll get my coffee in the morning.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'll open like, Instagram Reels or TikTok. And I'll just sit and all of a sudden I look up and it's like, oh, it's been an hour.

[A]

Are we.

[B]

That's not productive.

[A]

Are we old? Because I like Instagram. I like Instagram more. Am I old because of that?

[B]

It's the same.

[A]

Is it a generation?

[B]

It's also the same.

[A]

I don't want to be the Facebook guy. I hate Facebook. I'm not. I don't ever use Facebook. No post or anything. Yeah, those are for. That's for old people. I don't want. I think I'm right in the middle. Yeah, because you got Tick tock on the onions. The Instagram's like, we're still kind of in it. And then Facebook's for the olds. Yeah, yeah, I don't want. Whatever that next jump is. Then I'm going to tick because I. I need to chase the.

[B]

The youth.

[A]

Yeah, I don't want to.

[B]

You don't need to be there first.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't even know.

[A]

That's the thing. That's the big joke about Instagram. And it's true that whatever means you're.

[B]

Seeing there, you're seeing about a month later. And it's funny because I. Because I was. I was. I had tick tock and I. I deleted it as soon as it was like. I opened it up and it was like, sorry, not in the United States. And I was like, well, okay, it. And I deleted it. So I haven't gotten it back yet because it's still technically illegal. They're trying to work it out.

[A]

That's fine now.

[B]

No, no, it's still technically illegal.

[A]

We're gonna come after you.

[B]

No, no, I'm not worried. I just mean Alex is arrested. Like, at any moment it could be down again. So I'm like, why am I spending my time here? Kind of a thing. Yeah, but it's. It is the same thing. Like, I see the same content. Content now, but it is a little bit lagged behind.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On Tick Tock. Yeah. Mine would be working if I hadn't deleted it, but you can't download it from the Apple Store, so it's not on the Apple Store.

[A]

Oh, really? They haven't put it back yet. They turned it back on.

[B]

They turned it back on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Service back on.

[A]

But American companies would be breaking the law.

[B]

I forget the exact.

[A]

Yeah, I think we have 90 days to figure it out or some.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, they're not. Not. Yeah. So bottom line is there. I can't get it back, essentially. And by the way, they did the same thing as. Remember Flappy Bird? Flappy Bird. They did the same thing. As soon as the ban happened, people were selling their iPhones that had the TikTok for like 3,000 bucks.

[A]

No way. Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if anybody got. Anybody was dumb enough to do that, but yeah, it was one of those things anyway. All right, well, shall we call it a day?

[A]

Yeah, let's do it. We are very excited to come back in Feb. Web.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We'll be having some beverages then.

[B]

Yeah, the beverages, as they say.

[A]

And yeah. What else is going on? So February for me, we. We obviously are leading up to our big donation live.

[B]

Yep. March, which is in March.

[A]

So please go lock that down. Dignation show.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And the top header there. Unless you have ad blocked right now, which I don't think. No, it doesn't get blocked. It says Dignation Live 2025. Get your tickets and yeah, we will see you there. That is gonna be a blast. But there'll be a couple more episodes out before we do that one.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. And I think next, there's a slight chance that next time we may be coming to you from a new studio.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[B]

Potentially. We've been working on a new home, which by the way, we were working on before Kevin's house actually got hit. We were like, let's find a place. Yeah. So that could be fun. I mean, would be fun. Will be fun. I guess. I don't know. We'll see. If not, we'll be right back.

[A]

I think we're going to do like a proper, like, fun setup, right? Like something cool.

[B]

Oh, yeah. We got to get stuff, like bring stuff in and buy stuff that's like, meaningful for us. You know what I mean? I was thinking about like in the comments. Yeah. What would you have in a dignation studio? Maybe some possum stew in the back.

[A]

I was thinking, like, if we're going to do like a brick facade in the back, like, like Mario Brothers style bricks or something.

[B]

Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah. A couple.

[A]

I was thinking 90s stand up.

[B]

90S stand up brick.

[A]

Yeah. Amazing. Like so, but something we need, like, it needs to be like a, A set, but something where we would also actually hang out there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it doesn't feel like it's just.

[B]

Like manufactured kind of mini fridge, but like also a wine fridge.

[A]

Yes. Wine fridge.

[B]

Yeah. I, if I can. I want my wine lost.

[A]

So much good wine. I lost a lot of good wine.

[B]

Don't. I can't.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I know. Daria was the one when we were on the phone and she was like, the whiskeys. Oh, God, I can't even. I thought about getting you like a really nice bottle of Japanese whiskey and then I was like, I can't. The, the. The amount of whiskey that was gone. It can't even. I couldn't even.

[A]

No, I'm. I'M I'm good. I'm. I'm like, I'm. Well, I'm really all about, like, just really kind of keeping it lean right now.

[B]

I love it, dude. I love it. Take the reset, man.

[A]

Honestly, like, one of the things I told Daria and we could wrap it up, but I. One of the things I said is like, the next six months, the wisest thing to do is like, nothing, actually. It's like, don't make any big decisions. Don't do it. Because it was like, oh, where do we live? Like, the kids pull them out of school. Cause a bunch of families are bailing and going to different schools because the kids school burned down. And it's like, so it's just like one day at a time.

[B]

I love it. I think that's really smart to just go, let's just chill, have good times, enjoy our company.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

And then.

[A]

And celebrate life at the dignation Live.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Big announcements.

[B]

All right, that is it for this week's edition of dignation. I'm Alex Albrecht.

[A]

I'm Kevin Rose, Oregon.