Burritos from the Sky and Other Signs of Progress | E19 | Diggnation

Summary

Diggnation (Rebooted) – Episode 19

"Burritos from the Sky and Other Signs of Progress"
Hosts: Kevin Rose & Alex Albrecht
Date: August 27, 2025

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Overview

After a 15-year break, Diggnation returns with its classic laid-back, tech-obsessed, irreverent banter. Kevin and Alex settle back on the couch to catch up on life, geek out on the latest in smart tech, laugh about burritos delivered by drone, and explore retro media. The heart of the episode orbits around personal updates, the relaunch and evolution of Digg.com, mind-blowing battery innovation, unorthodox betting markets, and a healthy dose of 90s nostalgia.

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Highlights & Key Discussion Points

1. Life Updates, Tech Minimalism, and Home Automation

Timestamps: 00:00 – 14:58

• Sobriety & Sober Living:

  • Kevin shares he’s 128 days sober, with his partner Daria at 45 days.

    “Imagine being sober. Okay. No drinks, 100 plus days... it’s fine. It’s to be expected.” – Kevin (02:03)

• Nostalgia for Yard Work:

  • Kevin’s back to mowing his own lawn, indulging in the “Zen” of physical labor and involving his kids.

• Geek Flex: The DIY Framework Laptop:

  • Kevin’s new modular “Framework” laptop gets the spotlight. He extols building it himself—swapping RAM/CPU, running an Arch-based Linux with the “Hyperland” window manager.

    “It’s all fully customizable just by editing these text files... It does feel exactly like a MacBook Pro.” – Kevin (05:26, 07:14)

• Home Automation & Cameras:

  • The hosts geek out over replacing light switches, automating their homes with Home Assistant, and integrating Ubiquiti security cameras—highlighting “Yes Techie” as a top LA installer (08:18).
  • Kevin describes experimenting with Ubiquiti’s speaker/AI loitering alert:

    “That air horn is like, literally for, like, a football stadium ... I'm more worried about a lawsuit from causing a heart attack...” – Kevin (10:12)

• Vacation/Leaving Home Automations:

  • Alex sets up Home Assistant to simulate someone being home while away—lights and plugs controlled by a “vacation” variable (13:19).

2. Digg.com Relaunch & Community Update

Timestamps: 14:58 – 21:56

• Major Platform News:

  • The Digg app is now approved on both iOS and Android. Beta/alpha users get two invites each (15:31).
  • Embedded media functionality (YouTube, etc.) rolling out this week.
  • Foreshadowing live, embedded Diggnation video events.

• The “Human Captcha Project”:

  • Digg's anti-bot/human verification strategy involves in-person meetups. First one: September 10, SF, at Southern Pacific Brewing Co.

    "Those first, like 100,000 core contributors of any social network are so essential.” – Kevin (17:35)

• Community Rollout:

  • Every two weeks, new niche communities will launch.

    “If you have something weird, what kind of community would you... I was just talking about this with Mal.” – Alex (18:16)

• Niche Ideas:

  • Kevin: Japanese woodworking joinery, meditation, retro gaming (“56K”, rebooting BBSes).
  • Alex & Mal: Off-road cars, food/cooking, beef jerky making.

3. Quirks of Polymarket and Prediction Markets

Timestamps: 42:01 – 53:59

• The World of Betting on Everything:
  • Kevin introduces Alex to Polymarket, an international crypto-based betting platform where users can “bet on everything."
    • Peculiar, gameable bets (e.g., will a dildo be thrown on a WNBA court) and how easy it is for some bets to be manipulated.
    • Legal grey area: Insiders could theoretically force outcomes.
    • Notable quote:
      > “If it’s people that you know ... Elon [Musk] can just change the profile photo and you win X number of dollars, that's kind of insider trading in some sense.” – Kevin (45:14)
  • Discussion of Kalshi (US legal prediction market) and distinctions regarding insider trading.

4. Tech of the Week: Drone-Delivered Burritos & Battery Breakthroughs

Timestamps: 29:19 (EV Batteries), 54:19 (Burritos) – 63:32

• Chinese EV Breakthrough:

  • Changan’s new model is set to deliver a record-setting 930-mile range thanks to solid-state batteries.

    “That is, I think, where we’re going to start to get into this real shift ... You could drive up, run around there, drive back all without charging.” – Alex (33:05)

• AI, Tesla, and EV Market Churn:

  • Honest talk about why neither host is thrilled with Tesla anymore (unpleasant customer service, rapidly expanding alternatives).

• Autonomous Burritos from the Sky:

  • Dallas, TX: Chipotle teams up with Zipline to drone-deliver food orders via “zip stations.”
    • Kevin invested in Zipline years ago (originally for essential medical goods in Africa, now consumer food).
    • Technical breakdown of the process: drones hover 300 ft up, lower burritos by cable, and fly off.

      “This is how we’re gonna get Amazon deliveries.” – Alex (56:52)

  • Context around automation replacing delivery jobs; musings on LA’s bad public transit.

5. Retro Tech & 90s Nostalgia: The Great CD Comeback

Timestamps: 67:49 – 80:00

• CDs are Cool Again:
  • Both Kevin and Mal bought CD players, touting the joy of physical media, album art, sleeve notes, and full-album listening.
  • Collectors' insight: First pressings, "hot stampers," and rare editions may become the next vinyl.
  • Notable throwback moments: MC Hammer, Jesus Jones, Two Live Crew, Eazy-E, and the sense of forbidden cool as kids.

    “Annoying thing about modern digital is we jump around ... you don't really listen to albums anymore.” – Kevin (71:02) “Vinyl is for collecting. CD is for listening.” – Mal (75:27)

6. Other Noteworthy Stories & Quick Hits

Timestamps: 80:00 – End

• Pixel 10 Announcement:

  • Kevin orders Google’s new flagship. Highlights real-time, on-device AI voice translation, including using your own voice.

    “This video ... is now using Google Translate ... It will be translated in the voice of the speakers.” – Alex (82:16)

  • Cheeky demo ideas: “chain” two phones for game-of-telephone style language translation.

• Travel & Friendship:

  • Alex proposes celebrating his 50th in Tokyo with Heather, inviting Kevin and Daria along for the ride.

    “Your mind would be blown ... I'm so excited.” – Alex & Kevin (84:53)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

“That air horn is like, literally for, like, a football stadium ... I'm more worried about a lawsuit from causing a heart attack ... in the intruder [who’s] trying to break in.”
— Kevin Rose, on his Ubiquiti loitering AI test (10:12)

“It’s so fun with the Ubiquiti stuff ... you can fire up a drone to do a little mini 360 around your house.”
— Kevin Rose (13:22)

“This is how we’re gonna get Amazon deliveries.”
— Alex Albrecht, on drone burrito delivery (56:52)

“Those first, like 100,000 core contributors of any social network are so essential.”
— Kevin Rose, on Digg community-building (17:35)

“Vinyl is for collecting. CD is for listening.”
— Mal (75:27)

“Imagine being sober. Okay. No drinks, 100 plus days... it’s fine. It’s to be expected.”
— Kevin Rose (02:03)

“Nostalgia will kick in for somebody to be like, oh, I want CDs ... buy a couple extras: one for the play, one for the vault.”
— Kevin Rose (73:45)

“Waymo ruined me. I, I, I have a really hard time with drivers and ... some horrible driving and getting car sick and Waymo ruined me.”
— Mal (59:19)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Personal Catch-up, Sobriety, Lawn Zen: 00:00 – 08:00
• Framework Laptop & Linux Tinkering: 05:11 – 08:00
• Home Automation + Ubiquiti Install: 08:19 – 14:00
• Digg Relaunch/Meetups/Community Plans: 14:58 – 21:56
• Polymarket Betting Craziness: 42:01 – 53:59
• 930-Mile EV Battery Breakthrough: 29:19 – 36:41
• Drone-Delivered Burritos / Zipline: 54:19 – 63:32
• CDs, Album Listening, Retro Joy: 67:49 – 80:00
• Pixel 10 Voice Translate & Travel Dreaming: 81:15 – 85:50

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Tone & Vibe

• Friendship-forward, ribald, nostalgic, and candid.
• Playful tech geek pride (“you know, just swap the motherboard!”)
• Gentle roast of digital/physical culture and their own aging ("I'm thinking about going, like, on a trip with Heather. My next birthday is a big birthday." – Alex)
• Tangents, laughter, and the cherished feel of couch banter that made Diggnation legendary.

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Summary Table

| Segment | Highlight | Timestamp | |----------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Personal Catchup | Sobriety, lawnmowing, Framework laptop, home automation | 00:00–14:58 | | Digg Relaunch | App launch, Human Captcha, invite system, niche community talk| 14:58–21:56 | | Battery Breakthrough | 930-mile solid-state EV battery (Changan, Mercedes) | 29:19–36:41 | | Prediction Markets | Polymarket, odd bets, legality, inside info risks | 42:01–53:59 | | Drone Burrito Delivery | Zipline, logistics, automation nostalgia | 54:19–63:32 | | Retro Media | The CD revival, favorite albums, collectible culture | 67:49–80:00 | | Pixel 10 & Language | Real-time on-device voice translate, trip plans to Japan | 81:15–85:50 |

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For long-time fans and newcomers alike, this episode is a smart, silly, and surprisingly sentimental return to form—reminding us innovation, nostalgia, and the urge to tinker always belong on the couch.

— Diggnation is back, and it’s like they never left.

Transcript

[A]

Coming up on this episode, chefs, take to the air. Both burritos and dildos CDs are making.

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A comeback and the elderly should be put down. Welcome to dignation.

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Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on.

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Why do you have flies in your freaking house?

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I've noticed this earlier in Southern California and I have fruit.

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You put zombie and you put earring in the title and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com hello, friends, family and acquaintances of friends and family. I'm Kevin Rose.

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And I'm Alex Albrecht. This is Dig Nation and welcome.

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We are glad you are here.

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Dig Nation covers some of the hottest user submitted stories on the social news website. Dig.com digg.com beta.

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Dig.com beta.

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Dig.com that's where if you're in. Oh, if you're in, that's where you go. If you're not, go to digg.com and put in your email to be invited in when it opens up even wider. Although it's been opening up pretty wide, as it were. Hey, speaking of opening up wide, how are you, buddy?

[B]

I'm doing well. I have not been opening up wide. I've not been drinking, so.

[A]

Still, speaking of drinking.

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Yes.

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It's time for me to pour my ceremonial. Ouch. That's why I love doing this. Every three weeks, I get a bottle of this in my gullet. My poor gullet.

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The last time you had a drink was three weeks ago.

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Sure.

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You got attacked by a spider. You get. I did.

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I got attacked by a spider. It's the weirdest thing. Just all of a sudden, I love that the deep smell turns into a sip. Oh, whoops.

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I didn't sip. I didn't sip it.

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Just accidentally, the audio.

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I didn't. I'm not even putting close to my lips. I'm just inhaling the fumes. Like contact high.

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That's good.

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That's a good nose.

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So how's it been? How long has it been?

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It's been 128 days or some shit like that. It's fine. It's to be expected.

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So you're.

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Imagine being sober. Okay. No drinks, 100 plus days.

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Okay, I got it.

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And it's like six o'. Clock. Okay.

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In the morning.

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No, at night.

[A]

Oh, okay. That's harder. And then the witching hours. That's what they call it. And then you kind of just sit there.

[B]

That's kind of what you do. And it's fine. But it's like, you know, I was playing the new Switch with my kids. I built a cherry blossom tree with them.

[A]

That's nice.

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Do more stuff like that.

[A]

You seem very excited about all of it.

[B]

No, it's great. It's like, it just. It's not alcohol.

[A]

Yes. And is Daria joining you?

[B]

She's sober for 45 days.

[A]

Oh, wow. Okay. Well, that definitely helps. Oh, my God, she's the best.

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Oh, it's the best. You know, it's difficult. It's hard to work through this stuff, but you know what? We're doing our best.

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You know what helps?

[B]

Alcohol.

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Speaking of boos, if you guys want, there's still a couple slots left on the mascot allocation list. Like I said last time, they have already run the allocation for this year, so it might be a bit. But if you want, send in your emails dignationig.com.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah, I got it.

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Amazing.

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Yeah.

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First time.

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First time. So what's been going on besides that? Anything new and exciting?

[B]

Lots of stuff. I clean. Oh. I mowed the lawn. That's why my.

[A]

You cleaned.

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My shoes are green. Oh.

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Cause you did work.

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I mowed the lawn.

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Why did you not hire a person.

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To mow the lawn?

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I feel like this is part of the no alcohol thing. It's like, I gotta find something.

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No, no, no. I'm telling you, there's something I miss mowing the lawn.

[A]

That's interesting. I never liked mowing the lawn.

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Did you mow the lawn when you were younger?

[A]

No, my dad did. And you never did? No, I tried a couple times just because of the, like, iconic, like, boy mows the lawn and gets a nickel. You know what I mean?

[B]

I got paid $2.

[A]

Yeah, right. That's inflation. Right. That's stagflation or whatever they call it Anyway, but I would always do it, and I was not good at it. And so my dad was finally just like, you can stop. I'll just do it. And I think maybe my dad, like, you, was getting some sort of nostalgia. Yeah, just like, I just mow. I mow the lawn and then it's good. How much lawn do you have? Louisiana's not a big lawn.

[B]

I've got a big front yard and the back is like Astroturf stuff. But, like, the front yard is decent size. And then I got a hedger as well.

[A]

Oh.

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So I can go around and kind of like do the nice little trim around the front.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[B]

I will say, with that fresh cut grass smell, you know? And you get out there and you do that nice little, like, I did that fine little line around the edges.

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A little bonsai tree.

[B]

It's nice. Yeah, there's a little bit of Zen. And also, your kids should want live kids. You don't. You have a dog.

[A]

I've been trying to get them to mow my lawn all day.

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But they should see dad doing some shit, you know, like, I'm trying to teach them stuff around the house. I let them push the lawnmower for the first time. You know, when I do repairs around the house, I let them like, help out with that stuff.

[A]

Yep.

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It's just kind of fun. So I did that. That's been good. I got a new laptop.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

So this is not a Mac.

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I mean, I think anybody could tell.

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This is a framework. And so this is an actual do it yourself, assemble your own laptop. Whoa. What?

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Yeah.

[B]

So this whole thing pulls apart.

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Does it come in, like, sections?

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It comes in components, motherboard and everything. And so look at that. I can like, peel off. Why would you do this front? Look at. That's the screen where the camera's underneath it. You can see how it's all modular.

[A]

Oh, I see.

[B]

And that snaps in there. This whole board comes out. I put my own RAM and hard drive in and everything. You can swap out the motherboard or put in a faster CPU or whatever you want. And then you get to pick your os. Windows is their default. Or you can just do nothing. I did nothing installed on here. There is a new version of Linux.

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Nothing. No operating system.

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No, no, no. Just blank. Nothing. Is the phone company. But yeah, that's not.

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I don't know because you were like, I installed nothing. I had nothing installed. And I was like, is that an operating system?

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Well, it actually is. Nothing os.

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Nothing os? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So Omarky om Archy, which is done by Dhh, who is a really famous engineer, he created Ruby on Rails. This is a really lean version of Linux called Arch. And it used an overlay, a window manager on top of it called Hyperland. And it is super fluid. We'll show a little video of it here, but it's super fluid. And some of the stuff that you can do in Hyperland, it's just absolutely stunning. Some of the kind of layouts that you can do, it's all fully customizable just by editing these text files. And is this.

[A]

This has a very Mac like feel.

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Oh, yeah.

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MacBook Air vibe.

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Yeah. Look at that OS though. Look at that, how cool that looks. Resizing it.

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It's got fricking.

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Isn't that sweet?

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Oh, yeah, that's Great.

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So it's really clean. It's got a finger sensor reader. This.

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It's got a finger sensor reader.

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Yeah, finger sensor reader.

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Oh my God. Oh, my fingers are there.

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Next generation, it detects that you have fingers, which is helpful when your fingers go numb. Oh God.

[A]

Oh, I have them. They're still there.

[B]

But the framework is pretty awesome. It does feel in exactly like a MacBook Pro.

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Let me see this.

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Yeah, type. Type on that. Type on it. Feels really good.

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It's a little awkward where you have to hold it.

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Yeah, I mean that's huge.

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I don't know what.

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Just type something. Do I pretend like you're typing?

[A]

Okay, well, I got. I gotta.

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Yeah. Oh, doesn't that feel like a Mac?

[A]

Oh, yeah. That actually feels a little bit more substantial.

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Yeah.

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Almost like a mechanical keyboard.

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It's really good. But for a laptop it's really good. So that's what I've been playing around with that.

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That's fun.

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Just a new desktop is nice.

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It's clean.

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It's a fresh start. It's very minimal. It's very hacker esque. A lot of it's antsy graphics. If you've probably seen the more retro graphics feel. And I love this. There's something about that nostalgia stuff that's just fun to tinker again.

[A]

Well, even having it look like exposed feels really cool, you know what I mean? Because I've been doing all sorts of stuff around the house and getting into automations and all that stuff and you know, replacing light switches with smart switches. Like I've been having so much fun. There's so much shit to do.

[B]

Dude, I just got. I didn't tell you this. So I got my camera set up in my house.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They're Ubiquiti.

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Oh good.

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Yeah, we've been talking about. Yeah, yeah. Oh, by the way, you see Ubiquiti crushed earnings. Their Stock's up like 30% in a single day. It was insane.

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I mean, Ubiquity, I should have fucking bought it when I started putting it in the house.

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I know.

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God damn it.

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So basically what I did is these guys that came by, they helped me set up the Ubiquiti. By the way, fantastic crew in la. If you need any Ubiquiti or hardware. Oh, I do set up.

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I do.

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They're called yes, Techie.

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Okay.

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And I have no affiliation with them other than they were just fantastic humans.

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Yes Techie.

[B]

Yes Techie is the name in Los Angeles. I have never worked with a more professional like crew of people that Understand Ubiquiti. Security cameras, access control, automation, the whole thing. These guys. Yeah. Like, vacuumed up as they were doing every little cut in the wall, made sure to send people to paste and, like, do all copy and paste.

[A]

They did the C control V control C. Like, I never see.

[B]

So they're like. They're like, hey, you know Ubiquiti has a speaker that you can do outside.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And that when their AI detects loitering, there's a checkbox for the cameras.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And you can say, detect loitering? Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I want that. Like, especially, like, we have one back side of our house, has like a little alleyway. I was like, yeah, let's add that. So they got the speaker and they're like, oh, just so you know, it's a little big. I'm like, whatever. It comes in with the airborne looking thing.

[A]

I've seen that.

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It's for stadiums.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Dude. And so I check the loitering box and then you can choose what MP3 file you want to play when it detects loitering. So I go into 11 labs and I have it say, like, intruder alert, like, detected, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I have it, like, you know, I save it, upload it to the little Ubiquiti server and I say, okay, detect loitering. And so I go out there and I'm like, acting like I'm like trying to get in the door or something. Loitering? Yeah, I'm loitering my own house just to test the thing out, Right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Dude, that air horn is like, literally for, like, a football stadium because it rocks the entire block. It's like. It's really, like 100 times louder than I could have ever wanted it. Right. And I was like, oh, my God. I had to, like, run to be like, how do I stop this from, like, turning off?

[A]

It's still going on.

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Well, I set it to loop once, so that was good because it only went for like 10 seconds, but it was like, it will. I'm more worried about a lawsuit from causing a heart attack and the intruder trying to break in.

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So this implies that you have footage of you scrambling when.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I should probably.

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I should probably download it out of.

[B]

The archives, but it was insane, so you should get one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

[A]

I'm going to totally. Well, I'm going to call these guys because I. Brentano gave me the. His. He has the doorbell, the video doorbell thing, and I wanna Replace our intercom system. And I just like, I bought all this shit. I bought the knee pads, I bought the fucking fishing tape to see about running the conduit.

[B]

Fishing tape.

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And I'm just like, I just can't get my ass. And I still have the access door and the strike play. I got all that shit.

[B]

Dude, that's like a five day job.

[A]

I know.

[B]

These guys will do it in like half a day.

[A]

That's why I was like, I should just fucking call these people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's amazing.

[B]

Yeah. Cause that's where I was too. Cause I realized I would have had to a bunch of shit through the walls. And I'm like, do I want to be like, I'll mow the lawn. I'll like. You know, I swapped out the nest. Put smart like nest in jits.

[A]

We just did that. We just changed out the thermostat because our thermostat went tits up.

[B]

Did you put Nest 4?

[A]

No.

[B]

I knew Nest 4 well.

[A]

So I have a Lennox system. The Lennox, it's like high end air conditioning. Oh, oh, the Lennox X24.

[B]

Oh, not like Linux, like the OS?

[A]

No, no, no, no, not Linux. Linux. Okay. But the problem is that they have their own ecosystem of wires. So like they have different wires rather than the common. So our Lennox thing broke and I was like, I'm just going to buy another one. So I bought the newer version of Lennox.

[B]

The nothing os?

[A]

Yeah, the nothing OS one. And we replaced it. Heather and I replaced it, which was super fun and it was great, but it was just like, fuck.

[B]

Is it connect to your, like home? You got in Google Home? Do you use Google Home? I think it's an Apple. Oh, you home assist.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So you can use it in anything basically.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

Yeah, I got all this stuff.

[B]

When you dial this stuff in, it's really fun. It also is a massive time sink. Oh yeah, but it is. It's too fun to tinker.

[A]

Oh, well. So I did this thing. So we were.

[B]

I can't remember where we were, but.

[A]

We were out of the house. And I was like, wait a minute. All of our, all of our lights are hue lights, but I have access to. And some of them are hardwired plugs that I have access to. Like they physically plugged into a smart plug that I can turn on and off. And I was like, I have it all in Home Assistant. And so while I was away, I opened Home Assistant and I set this automation for like the lights go off at 11, the lights turn on at 8. And then I set it to this variable called vacation and put like a little dip switch. So now when we're away, if I'm like, oh shit, we're going on vacation, I can literally just click the vacation button and it sets all these automations to show that we're home even though we're not home.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Well, dude, I love doing that shit.

[B]

So listen to this.

[A]

It's five seconds.

[B]

But it's so fun with the ubiquiti stuff in the loitering mode. You can set up a custom web hook to fire any third party service you want. So what you do is you get one of those bases that sits on top of your house that can dock a drone charger and you can fire up a drone to do a little mini 360 around your house.

[A]

I mean, why do I have to have that?

[B]

I need it just to scare off people.

[A]

Fuck, I love that.

[B]

And if you add a flamethrower mode to it, just like just choose flames.

[A]

Above or just the speakers, it's like. But you know, police activity drone is being.

[B]

Dude, how cool would that be? I love it. Yeah, I know. We should set that up.

[A]

Oh, God. All right. Speaking of fun things.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So this is the other thing I wanted to say was you know how small our backyard is.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We're thinking about installing a pool.

[B]

Jesus.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like a single lane, half lap pool.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

All right. That was the end of that story. But yeah, we're thinking about like completely redoing our whole backyard, but incorporating a jacuzzi, a small little pool.

[B]

Are you gonna get rid of like water features?

[A]

We don't have a shed.

[B]

The garage.

[A]

The garage.

[B]

I mean, it's a shed, not a shed.

[A]

It's a shed that our car's parked in and is basically our storage utility. No, we gotta keep that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

At least for a little while.

[B]

What are you doing on the other side?

[A]

I'm put solar on top of the garage, specifically. Not connected to the grid specifically to just power a battery bank for the pool and Jacuzzi.

[B]

That's a bad idea.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Why not power your house so if the power goes out, you have it for your house.

[A]

Cause we already have solar and a powering back up on the house because we already have that.

[B]

I need the jacuz.

[A]

Just worried about it. Emergencies. It's hot. Get in the pool.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Oh my God, I love it. So everybody, we are very excited because there have been some really cool forward progress [e-mail], some of which I'm sure you might have seen, some of which is new and we are sharing here for the first time. First off, if you were in the alpha, I guess was what it was, the technical alpha. The good news is the App Store and Google Play Store have approved the app of Digg.

[B]

It's out there.

[A]

It is out there. You can download it now. If you had access to the beta or the alpha, you actually get two invites that you can share with friends, which is amazing. So you can get people to come in if you want your friends to join in. The other thing that's really cool is we're finally going to be releasing the embedded media, which launches next week or this week?

[C]

This week.

[A]

This week. So you'll be able to start seeing YouTube videos and things like that natively in the app.

[B]

In theory, do in theory stuff. But in theory, eventually we could do live designation embeds and do like actual live shows and whatnot in the site, which would be cool.

[A]

I know. I'm so excited. I don't know when we're going to do another live show, but I'm excited for that, which I'm sure is going to happen.

[B]

We could be doing this live out via that.

[A]

Oh, I see what you mean. This live out via that. Because we. We have the technology, we say so many things that we want to keep.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

We don't cut that much out every.

[B]

Once in a while.

[A]

Every once in a while, yeah.

[B]

So one thing to say is that we want. If you don't have access and you're not in the beta or alpha, you can add yourself to the wait list there and we'll get you in as soon as possible. But we're doing this project called the Human Captcha Project, which is really fun because we want to defend and block bots from getting in for as long as possible. Really set that foundation of trust amongst community members, get them to know each other and break bread with us and come out and hang. So we're doing these little meetups. We want to kind of shake your hand, hang out, come to a Digg meetup. We have Prove youe humanity. We have one in San Francisco, September 10th from 7 to 10pm at Southern Pacific Brewing Company. September 10th, 7 to 10pm I will be there. RSVP in the show notes if you can make it. And then we're gonna be doing some of these eventually online. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little group parties and get togethers. It's a way to say, like, let's get to know these first. You're gonna be there too?

[A]

Yeah, Fuck it.

[B]

Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. But it's a way to say, let's get to really know these people that are defining. Cause Those first, like 100,000 core contributors of any social network are so essential.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And the last thing we want is just rampant bot engine craziness.

[A]

And one of the things too, just along that line is we are going to be expanding the communities all through September and October and November and all.

[B]

The way to December. Probably January as well.

[A]

Maybe December. January. We'll see. So every two weeks we're going to be releasing a new community onto the Digg platform and we are going to have you help us figure out which community shall come out in which order. We're very excited. Haven't quite figured out the mechanic, but it's going to be something amazing. And your voice will be heard.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If you have something weird, what kind of community would you. I was just talking about this with Mal. Oh.

[B]

Before I got here. Yeah.

[A]

Cause I was like, what?

[B]

And I was like, for me, cooking, Japanese woodworking. For me, meditation. Don't. Why the fuck? What's wrong with Japanese woodworking?

[A]

This is so specific.

[B]

I love joinery. Joinery? Yes.

[A]

Do you do Japanese woodwork?

[B]

I am getting into it. It is where you don't use nails and you do real.

[A]

I just saw this thing about this thing with the stone.

[B]

You like new nails?

[A]

Yeah. No, this thing with the stone and then this wood that goes in and they carve the wood foundation to f perfectly in the stone and then as it settles, it actually spreads.

[B]

Yes. That's Japanese woodworking joinery, my friend.

[A]

I'm going to join it. I'm joining the joinery.

[C]

Joinery.

[A]

I'm joining joinery.

[B]

So anyway, that I would say I'd love to do a meditation one. Retro gaming would be fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Old BBSs would be fun. I want to start a section called 56K. I've got this idea in my mind because the last great modem before it all went Internet, in my opinion, was the 56k modem. I was like, one would still be multimore systems. It was still intamin. And then we all jumped to the Internet. But that 56k modem. And yes, we did use it for the Internet later. But that was like. I feel like this great point where because it was so slow, everything was very deliberate. You had to wait there and chat rooms felt real and connection felt real. And you're like, who is this other person? On the other end. So weird. Age, sex, language. Send me a picnic. No, it wouldn't be that bad.

[A]

But it was age, sex, language.

[B]

Asl.

[C]

Age, sex, location.

[B]

I thought it was age, sex, language. No, I don't know. Okay.

[A]

Anyway, that's why nobody's sending me pictures. Age, sex, language. All right, Narc. Hello, young children. Age, sex, language.

[B]

No, you would say, like, though, when you listen before you make it sound creepy. When you were young, when you were on. First of all, I was illegal, like, by my age, like, it would have been illegal to talk to me.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

So I was in there and like, when you say when I saw ASL and I always put in, like, where I was. Las Vegas. 13 male. Like, they would ask.

[A]

So that was age, sex, language. I mean, location.

[B]

Yeah, I missed. I guess it was location.

[C]

Location.

[B]

It wasn't language. English. English. Yeah. C. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was. It was one of these things where it felt very intimate. And I feel like if we can get back to some more, I want to take a raspberry PI and like, reboot bulletin board systems and like, make like little, small, little dial up machines.

[A]

Yeah, you call it B.B.B. s Bring Back.

[B]

Sure, whatever. Anyway, there's a lot of fun things we can go and create on the new jig. What'd you want, Mal? What did you like?

[C]

Oh, I was telling him, Alex, at cars. Just, like, specifically, if I can get, like, specific off road. I'm all about off road right now, but. But I think to appease the smaller audience in there, if we just had a general cars community.

[B]

Cars seems not niche enough, though.

[C]

It's not niche enough, but for this price.

[A]

Okay, you want me to go blue, Scott?

[C]

Yeah, I would go SoCal.

[A]

Off road for sure. And then go down. Right. So like, food. We have food. But then I was like, yeah, but cooking. So technically you could talk about cooking in food, but like, cooking as its own thing is much more specific. Cause it's like, you know, I found 10 pounds of shrimp. What should I do?

[B]

Yeah, I just made some beef jerky, by the way.

[A]

Did you make beef jerky?

[B]

Yeah, I just did.

[A]

Oh, my God. I've been wanting to do that for so long. Oh, my God.

[B]

I got a great recipe.

[A]

Recipe? How did you.

[B]

What?

[A]

How did it buy in the oven?

[B]

No, I bought a little tiny dehydrator. A little baby guy on Amazon had great reviews.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it was like 60 bucks or whatever. And I went and made this amazing marinade.

[A]

Did you use, like, top round or did you. What do you remember?

[B]

Yeah, so, yeah, exactly. That, that cut the top round and then you basically freeze it for an hour and a half. And it just gives it enough of the frosty texture that. Where you can slice it really thin.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So it's not like flipping and flopping. It's like really thin. Then you make these little quarter inch or less eighth of an inch slices and they marinate for 24 hours. And I cut fresh garlic and fresh onions, some soy sauce in there, some smoked paprika, some brown sugar, some coconut aminos and a couple other things. And then just like it all together.

[C]

Put Worcestershire in there.

[B]

Yeah, Worcestershire. Yeah, Quarter cup of Worcestershire sauce. And it was fantastic.

[A]

Well, so then you just dehydrated, what, 24 hours?

[B]

No, eight hours. Well, I cut it really thin. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But you have to do it hotter at first because it locks it. Then it dries the outside faster. Oh, it locks in that tenderness. Moist inside.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then you drop the temperature down and do it longer. So the first hour both kills the bacteria and locks in the moisture.

[A]

Brought some in place.

[B]

I should have. I should have. Me and my kids have blueberries. Yeah, we can. Dignation Beef Jerky.

[A]

Dignation Beef Jerky.

[B]

Head to dignationbeefjerky.com sweat.

[A]

I was like, now I see what you're doing with the time that you have without drinking. You're like, I've become an Asian woodworker.

[B]

And yeah, you're totally extraordinaire. I mean, it's fun.

[A]

Oh, my God, I love it. All right, all right. Shall we do the first story? Speaking of cool, fun dig things.

[B]

Yes. First story of the day, I want you to take out your cell phones and call area code 575-500-DIG D I G G. Also known as 575-500-3444. And when you call that, this is what will happen today on Dig Daily.

[A]

Your news diet pre portioned by people who actually click the link. Silicon Valley leaders are lowering expectations for AI James Gunn's DC Universe will reportedly be different from the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

[B]

AI tools are facing a user oil. $5.99aminute. It is not paid. It is free. This is. Why don't you.

[C]

So the idea started a little while ago of what if we were to take AI to summarize, what are the top trending stories? What's the who, what, where, when of the story? But more importantly, I like to read the comments on Digg. What are people saying on Digg? So we're just platforming those, those top trending stories on Digg. Short five, six minute episode five stories. Just your daily dose of top news and what people are saying about it for your commute, for, you know, whatever.

[A]

It is that you do, pile it up.

[B]

That's so cool. Does this support multiple people at once? Like if 100 people all dial in at the same time, they're going to get through. Oh yeah, you're good. So walk people through the back end. Could you talk a little bit about how you can do this?

[C]

Oh my God, sure. It's a whole lot of vibe coding. So look, I know how to project, manage something and I know how to produce a show. So I just vibe coded like, all right, I need a researcher, I need a writer, I need a rewriter, I need a voice performer, I need an editor, I need a music editor. And it's just a whole stack of vive coded stuff that's just putting it all together within like three minutes. So in the morning we just run the generation. It's pulling those top stories and spits out an episode.

[A]

Yeah. So when does it usually change over day to day?

[C]

Right now it's a little bit of a manual process, but we're aiming for like seven in the morning Pacific time.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

Just to get that morning commute of.

[A]

Oh my God, I love it.

[C]

Top trending stories. Yeah, it's so fun. But yeah, it's using a little bit of Gemini, use a little bit of 11 labs and then a whole bunch of just open source projects to assemble things together.

[A]

Yeah, the voice stuff sounds really good. Yeah.

[B]

So when you have this released every single day, is this something where you see this going to a podcast eventually, like where someone can subscribe to this and just get it on their commute.

[A]

Or I think right now we're just.

[C]

Going to keep it on application just because it's a little bit of navel gazing of like, wait, which user? What are they talking about? Like that context of people on Diggs talking about Digg and you know what happens in these communities Right. Of the inspeak and references to previous references. So maybe, I don't know, maybe we'll keep it just internal to dig right now and then maybe spin it off if it feels good to everyone.

[B]

Sweet.

[A]

It's kind of cool too because it's like this is open to the public fully. So it's like if you're out there.

[C]

The phone number is for sure.

[A]

I want to get in. I want to get in. I want to see what's happening? This is a cool way to just like, see behind the curtain to get a little flavor of what's going on before you get your invites, which of course will be coming out soon.

[B]

Sure. Yeah. It's awesome that the future of this, obviously is interactive. You know, some of this stuff has been done in terms of NotebookLM and what they're doing over there with the interactive podcast. But, you know, you should be able to ideally just have a conversation with your podcast.

[A]

That'd be so funny.

[B]

Which is kind of crazy, right? Like, hear a story and you can just like, ask questions of it. Yeah.

[C]

And if it scales right, maybe even creating custom dailies for your own feeds. Right now it's just. It's just global. Right. What's trending globally on the platform? Once we do open, open taxonomy, maybe there's an opportunity to be like, no, here's your dig daily.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. See, that's pretty awesome because that's when.

[A]

From the stuff you've been following on the site. Yeah.

[B]

Because then if you're digging, you know, whatever joinery or like, you name it, you'll get those custom stories in your feed, which is pretty. Yeah.

[A]

Like, if you follow. Because right now you don't auto follow. Or do you. Do you. Do people that come auto follow? Certain. Like, there's so few communities. Do we follow all of them or is there right.

[C]

Right now when you join the beta, you auto follow all the communities just because it's such a smaller set. Communities.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's so cool. Yeah. Because once you get in there and once there's more communities and you really like picking what it is that you're. Although it's interesting to have, like, the idea of, like, that also helping service other communities too, where, like, you get your. You get through your dig daily, five minutes of this is what's going on in your communities, and then say, let me. Let's show you three minutes of what's going around on the communities you may not be associated with. Because that's a really cool exposure to, like, other communities. That'd be awesome.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Especially just to be sitting there listening to somebody being like, you know, well, you know, have you ever thought about how Japanese huts are made where they don't have these nails?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, that's the cool thing. It's finding these niche communities and interests that you could expose through that. And then the community would get stoked too. Because if you're a community owner, that's your community and you're like, oh, one of our stories went trending through the audio stream and now we got exposure to 20,000, 100,000 more people, all via that push. That's really, really awesome.

[C]

Yeah, we're doing a little bit of that right now too. With yes, we have a small step. Tech by far is the most popular community. But I've been talking to Alex, our amazing community leader.

[A]

Not this Alex.

[C]

Alex at Digg, who is helping me curate some of these to make sure, like, yeah, if tech is trending, that's cool, but let's choose some more offbeat stories. Really well, you know, round out the. The rundown for the daily a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, Amazing. Okay. Speaking of amazing things that are happening and I'm very, very, very excited about. Yes, Chinese electric car unveils a 930 mile miracle battery. This was submitted by Alex. Not you, this guy.

[B]

Are you serious?

[A]

Me? Yeah. Because I saw this and I was like, why people should know about this.

[B]

Amazing.

[A]

All right. So big a diggity. So there is a Chinese carmaker called Changan, I guess C H A N G A N Changan. And they're preparing to launch this vehicle that's capable of traveling 932 miles on a single charge. So we talked about this a little bit in the past. I think we might even talk about it in the live dignitation in Austin at South by Southwest that people are starting to go towards these solid state batteries. Because of that, they're able to put in much more electricity, store much more electricity than they could in the same weight and footprint batteries that were the lithium ion or any of those other sort of semi solid state or liquid. So this car has a 400 kilowatt hour battery.

[B]

Is that. That is pretty insane, actually.

[A]

Yeah, like teslas are like 85 kilowatt hours.

[B]

Well, what are power walls like that?

[A]

No, no, no. Probably. I think they're not as big as. No, because they're not as big as a car. So powerwall is probably like 40 kilowatt hours, maybe 29, 28, something like that.

[B]

I'll do research, okay?

[A]

Do research. Do your goddamn research. But here's the thing. We so.

[B]

So 13.5 kilowatts.

[A]

13.5, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So it seems like a lot of the American car manufacturers that are working on it. The range issue, I mean, range issue, it's not even really an issue. But you know, hey, look, with electric cars, unlike ice cars or combustion engine cars, you know, the range is something that if you can make it more than the average electric vehicle, Then that's something you can promote. That's something you can say like, hey, raise your hand. You know, our car goes 330 miles on a single charger.

[B]

Well, there was a race that early on, like every new Tesla came out like, oh, they got 30 more miles. Like, yeah, that was a thing.

[A]

What, so Tesla is a great example. So what Tesla was doing, and I'm assuming they're researching new battery architectures and new battery chemicals or chemical compositions, all that stuff. I'm sure they're doing that. But there really hasn't been much of a change since the, whatever it's like called like the 4985 or whatever, the Panasonic battery that they use. But what they've been doing is they've been getting better and better and better efficiency. The drag coefficient of these cars have been getting down and down and down. Some people think it's sort of like the uglification of electric cars. Like all Teslas look, look pretty much exactly the same.

[B]

They're pretty nice looking now.

[A]

I mean, they're nice looking, you know what I mean? The Mercedes are just kind of like beans that travel, but they're really efficient so they can get a higher range on the same battery. But China has been really focused on, let's get a tech evolutionary jump in the. And to be fair, same with Mercedes. So like we talked about, the Mercedes has a solid state battery that they're testing right now on the roads of Germany. That's ostensibly going to be, I think a 650 mile range on a single charge. But this is getting close to 1,000 miles on a charge. That is, I think where we're going to start to get into this real shift of people thinking about electric cars versus combustible engine cars. Because if you go, hey, you know, always the big thing is. Yeah, well, if you want to drive from LA to San Francisco, you're going to have to charge and it's like, sure, but you're also going to have to, to stop and get gas, right? Well, what if you aren't going to have to charge? There's literally going to be no. You could drive up and back without charging.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You could drive up, run around there, drive back all without charging. All of a sudden the charging infrastructure is, is, is great. But it really becomes about charging at home.

[B]

Right?

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it doesn't take much to charge at home. So I'm, I'm really excited about this. I think the fact that it's, that's like topped 900 miles of range. And that's sort of their estimated range. That's not like. Well, we had all the windows up and we had the AC down and we only went 45 miles. And we were able to reach, you know, because like, I think the Polestar 3 just broke the single charge EV range. Guinness World record. But it was a very specific tab. Like they were going like 60 miles an hour. They had a very flat road. It was a very specific. Like all these very specific things happen. Yeah, yeah, but it was. And I think it was. It was close to 500 or maybe even more. But anyway, this stuff gets me really excited, especially since I'm going to be getting a new electric car soon and hopefully some of these will be out.

[B]

It says 2027.

[A]

I know.

[B]

That's the problem. And then the other thing it said the manufacturing these solid state batteries at scale is difficult. Well, so is everything.

[A]

Of course, everything. And it only gets easier.

[B]

High cost. Well, I mean, I was asking the AI why it didn't. Tesla isn't pursuing this avenue.

[A]

I mean, look, at the end of the day, Tesla's got.

[B]

Tesla's got issues. Would you buy another Tesla right now?

[A]

So the short answer is maybe. The long answer is I had a really bad experience with Tesla before any of this, you know, anti Tesla stuff happened. The last time I turned in my car was a very weird exchange and I'm sure I talked about on the show, but they ended up charging me a ton of money for what I would consider as a natural wear and tear. I mean, I've had so many leases and yeah, every time you're like, oh, it's 500 bucks for like the wear and tear. Okay. And they charged me like five grand and I just took it out of my bank account. What did you do? Nothing, Nothing.

[B]

Five grand. You lost the price?

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no. There was a little. There was a little ding in the trunk, which is like, who. Who gives a.

[B]

How big, though?

[A]

We're talking so small, like, little ding. And they were like, oh, we have to replace the entire trunk. And it's all because of the fucking robo taxi thing. They were like, oh, we're using this as a robo taxi. And it was a weird handoff. So it like sat at the Burbank Tesla thing for like four months. It was still on my app. It was fucking. It was weird. Oh, I had that app.

[B]

It left my app in.

[A]

I was on the app.

[B]

I was honking the horn in a.

[A]

Parking lot of my own Car amazing.

[B]

I was tuning into the cameras.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

All the other cars sitting around it.

[A]

But you also weren't paying, right?

[B]

Yes. Yeah, it turned.

[A]

It's the thing.

[B]

Yeah, it's very strange.

[A]

So there's some stuff. So I had already when I first got this one and they pulled out that cash and I called and was like, what the. And they were like, oh, all four tires had to be replaced. I was like, I've never replaced a tire on my car. Like I turned it in like with barely any miles on it. And they were like, well, we measured the wheels and you were supposed to have 0.25 was the limit and it was 0.24 so we had to replace all four tires. $1,500, you guys. Fuck you guys. And so I had already been like, no, I'm not going to get another Tesla. And then all the crazy Elon stuff happened and I was like, well, I mean, do I really want a Tesla? And to be fair, I got a Tesla because they were the best electric cars.

[B]

Yeah, there's so many options hand down.

[A]

Hand sound like Rivian didn't exist when I got my last one. I mean, you know, it existed but it like wasn't as known. Yeah, Polestar wasn't around as much, you know what I mean? Fucking lucids are gorgeous.

[B]

Yeah, Nobody's buying those though.

[A]

I know. And they're expensive sitting there and you know, you got to watch out now because some of these, you know, you get a lucid and all of a sudden in four years it goes out of business and you're like, what can anybody.

[B]

Like, what's the one who conserves it?

[A]

What was the one that went out of business that people were like, now I have these like super expensive bricked cars. It was like an suv.

[B]

Oh, was it electric or no.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck. I can't remember what it's called.

[B]

The reason I got rid of my Rivian is because I had an issue with it. And they said it, it was not only was it like close to a three month wait, I would have to have driven 50 miles to get it serviced.

[A]

Oh yeah, because it's the only one stop by.

[B]

And I was like lax or whatever. That's horrible.

[A]

Fisker. Fisker. That's the one that went out of business. That it was like, ooh, right. Hey, do you still like the.

[C]

What is it? Ionic. Ionic 5.

[A]

Ionic 5 looks great. Yeah, but the range isn't that great. I mean, it's okay, it's. You know what I mean? But like, for me, my whole thing is every single year that I've gotten a new electric car, I've always gotten more range. So that's sort of like the thing for me. And the model Y that I have now is like 300 miles on a charge. So anytime I see something that's like 300 miles on charge, I'm like. And it's not like I have range anxiety. I don't know why I'm like, doing this. I should get an Ionic 5. They look great. Or like the. The EV9 looks super cool. I don't know when the EV5 is coming out, but that looks really rad. Anyway, so we'll see.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

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It's like, hey, you're on the Internet.

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Yeah.

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Did you?

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Oh, I can't even imagine.

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[A]

Okay, you know what drives me next? Elderly people. All right, let's get back to the spot. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

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[A]

Crazy, am I right?

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Yes. Yes.

[B]

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[A]

Oh God. Have you. I. It's really, it's one of those things that like it. It really is a big issue. I know, it's like we're, you know, laffy Laffies. But like this stuff is bad. Like this is what the bad side of the Internet, you know, it's like your information gets out there and I can't tell you how many times I get those fucking calls that are just like, how much are you looking to for the loan for your new business? And just like I don't. If I didn't know any better, I would do it.

[B]

You know what's crazy is after our house burned down, oh, we were lucky. But our neighbors were getting these harassment calls.

[A]

What?

[B]

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[A]

Love it. Oh my God. Okay, so let's talk about things that you could have invested in. What does I get? Shit on my shirt? God damn it. Having so much fun. I got wine on my shirt.

[B]

Don't rub it in.

[A]

I won't.

[B]

Well, literally, actually both. I was jealous.

[A]

Rub it in.

[B]

Rub it in. Because I don't. I wanted some wine.

[A]

Oh, oh.

[B]

But I was also saying don't rub it in because it's bad for your shirt.

[A]

Later, Kevin.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, I'm here all day. Hey. Hey. This one is crazy. So have you placed any bets on Polymart?

[A]

So I haven't. You've talked about it. We. By the way, I was gonna say we talked about last. Last week or last episode. We Talked about the ChatGPT 5 release, which was hysterical, but they actually released on a Thursday. So had you done it, I think you would have lost your money.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But polymarket allows you to just bet on everything, right?

[B]

Yeah. So this was the thing that I was, you know, I had seen that you could go in here and predict and pick which day you think that Japan was going to come out.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But the one thing I realize is, as you scroll down, they've got, like, their ranking, their trending area.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And the trending stuff is like, oh, will bitcoin be up or down on this day? Is the president is going to say this. But as you kind of get further down into the. All these different bets, some of this stuff is ridiculous. So there was, like, a bet on whether Elon Musk would change his profile photo on X or not. Weird. You know when you go to Vegas and they're like, okay, who's gonna win the coin toss for the Super Bowl?

[A]

You can bet on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And you're like, I don't know that we should bet on that, but I guess people want to, so let them do it. Right?

[A]

Sports bets.

[B]

Be sports. This is like that for everything. So I'm on here late at night and. Don't, Don't.

[A]

Cold sober.

[B]

I was sober as could be. And I'm sitting there and I'm reading through some of these things. And it said on there, first it occurred to me that a lot of this stuff is about Elon Musk. And he could just do whatever he wants and just, you know, rig these things.

[A]

And so that's what I was gonna ask. How is that possible? Like, there. There has. But there's no. It's not like gambling. There's no, like, oversight. Right.

[B]

Yeah. They have these, like, oracles that, like, all agree on whether something happened or not.

[A]

Right. But I mean, like, well, go ahead.

[B]

It gets paid out in cryptocurrency as well.

[A]

Okay, but go. But. But say what you. Because I remember mentioned on the.

[B]

I found out that there is. There's this trend I hadn't even heard about until I saw it on here, because probably wasn't paying attention enough in the news, but there's this trend, which is horrible, which is at Some of these WNBA games, people are throwing out dildos onto the court, like, as. Like, apparently some crypto group was behind it.

[A]

Or it was like it was a press stunt first.

[B]

Yeah, something like that.

[A]

And then it sort of caught on.

[B]

So people are checking out dildos on the court, obviously. Insanely rude.

[A]

Like, horrible.

[B]

They found the people who were doing. Actually, a couple of them got arrested, which was interesting.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

Makes sense. But then I saw on here, on polymarket, you could, like, place a wager on whether or not a dildo was gonna be thrown on the next court, like during the game. And so I was like, oh, wonder what the odds are on that. Not that I was gonna bet, but I just was curious. And so I clicked through on it, and if I had put in like a grand or someone had put in a grand and a dildo was chucked on the court, it was something like, you could win $200,000. It was something ridiculous.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

And so then it occurred to me to your point earlier, like, if it's people that you know or whatever, like Elon can just change the profile photo and you win X number of dollars, that's kind of insider trading in some sense.

[A]

100%. That's what I'm saying. Like, if that bet came up, right, and you bet 10 grand. Right. So you make 2 million bucks.

[B]

Well, there's not that deep of a well. But it's only how deep the well is.

[A]

All right, you deep into the well. As deep as you can.

[B]

Well, yeah. Which was. I think it was about 200k. Yes.

[A]

Okay, so 200k, it's a thousand bucks. So you get yourself a ticket to the next or anybody.

[B]

I guarantee you can find someone. You're like, hey, oh, yeah, you pay them five grand. Here's five grand.

[A]

Make sure you throw a dildo, chuck.

[B]

It and run, and you get paid 200 grand.

[A]

That's why I feel like there's gotta be other ones. And they have. But is there any mechanism for stopping people doing that?

[B]

Well, this is why I worry, because in some sense, people could just put anything that they want to see happen in public settings. That is awkward.

[A]

Oh, so you can post things up?

[B]

Yes. You can make your own. Yes. So this wasn't like polymarket being like, we want dicks on the. On the wnba.

[A]

No.

[B]

They were like, somebody was like, I'm going to make this market. I'm going to propose. I'll put 20 grand on saying it's not going to happen. And other people are like, yes, no, yes, no. And it kind of defines itself in real time based on the bets. So it starts accumulating the money and the pools get larger and larger.

[C]

If I'm betting and I see how gamable it is, why would I make that bet though? I feel like the market would take care of that risk, wouldn't it?

[A]

Well, it clearly didn't. Right.

[B]

Like, they, I don't think a dildo got thrown. So I think that, that in that particular case, you would have lost, but you can't take care of that.

[A]

But somebody could have bet that bet, flown to a sparks game or whatever, and thrown the dildo for 200 grand. Like, that's crazy.

[B]

Right? So they've got a bunch of culture ones here. Like, I'll show you some of the crazier ones.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Justin Bieber in rehab in 2025. 13% chance. So if you were to say yes here, and I put down like $24, I win $142 if he goes into rehab. And so there's like, well, did he be sentenced to life in prison? If I say yes and put in 10 bucks, I win $222.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Isn't that crazy?

[A]

Emmy's lead actor in a category. Oh, this is interesting.

[B]

Seth Rogen, 76. Yes. Isn't that so?

[A]

But there must be more of the ones that like, you can manipulate. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, my God. 5 kiloton meteor strike in 2025.

[A]

Meteor strike.

[B]

Yeah. 5 kiloton meteor strike in 2025. Yes. 24 chance. No. So if I say no.

[A]

Because it's probably unlikely.

[B]

Yeah. So, well, if I say yes and I put in $92 and win 356.

[A]

But the Earth is destroyed.

[B]

And if I say no. No, that's only five kiloton.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry, your house is destroyed.

[B]

It's more than that. That's like a good sized bomb.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

And I put in $100 at 129. That's if I say I feel like.

[A]

That'S a, that's a sound investment in my opinion. Right.

[B]

See, that's the whole thing. That look actually pretty attractive. Measles cases in the US before 2026. 1400, 1500. Trump divorced in 2025. 4% chance.

[A]

Nah, no way.

[B]

I know, but that's the whole thing. Why don't you say no? Okay, let's say no in 2025. Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I put in $100, I win $103. 73 cents.

[A]

You make $3.73.

[B]

I do.

[A]

By gambling.

[B]

But you get the point here. Sometimes I feel like there are gonna be things in here especially there's gonna be so much insider trading here because there'll be industries and things that we don't understand, but people have insider knowledge on. Oh.

[A]

Cause I saw something that was like, yeah, well, look like Gemini 3 being.

[B]

Released by September 30th, there's 42% chance.

[A]

Right. But by August 31st, 7% chance. Well, if I work at Google and I know you know the release date that, that release date is, let's call it September 29th, which there's going to.

[B]

Be hundreds of people that know that right now.

[A]

Yeah, 100%. And there's, and that's the question is, is it, is there any, is there anything on this site that says you can't do that?

[B]

Yes, that's the, called the sec.

[A]

No, but it's not covered by the sec.

[B]

Yeah, it would be.

[A]

This feels very outside the sec.

[B]

Well, this one, polymarkets International, but it's not in the US Yet. But there is another one that they have called that is in the US Called Alshi. Excuse me, I don't think you say it. Kalshi Olashi. Kalshi.

[A]

I mean I think Kalshi is how it's.

[B]

Yeah. Kalshi.com. so that one is legal in the United States. But yeah, it's insider trading. If you have insider information that needs. Leads to a financial outcome on these like gambling type sites. Yeah, that's, that's going to be illegal for sure.

[A]

I mean, but that's the thing is, is, is insider trading illegal because it's, it's a criminal act in and of itself or is it illegal in regards to the American stock market? Do you see what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like is it only. No, it's legal because it's, it's a financial institution covered by the SEC.

[C]

Meaning does it apply to polymarket?

[B]

Can you get into ChatGPT real quick?

[A]

If I, I don't know how to do it outside.

[B]

I'm pretty sure it's. You know what I mean? I'm pretty sure it's. Well, you could just say, yeah, 100% is all gambling because you couldn't have insider information on a sports game and use betting apps. Yeah, 100% because, well, well, I guess it also classifies like what is insider information?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Well, here's a guy that says Lord Miles completes 40 day water fast in the desert. Yes or no? Yes. 54% chance or no, if I know this guy and I'm like, that guy.

[A]

Can'T go fucking days without drinking water the most.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

He's always saying he could go drink. Not that much. That he drinks water secretly.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

That's amazing.

[C]

So just answer your question.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And no. Traditional US insider trading laws do not apply to polymarket. What?

[B]

How about Clashy?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

What about Clashy?

[A]

Clashy, Clashy.

[B]

Because Poly Market's not in the states yet. So that's probably why they're saying there, well, APRA will acquire perplexity. No way in hell.

[A]

Although wasn't that. That was one of the things that we're talking about.

[B]

Yeah, but there's just no way there. That's going to happen. They don't want that. Yeah.

[A]

Wait, did that say. Did that say go back up? Did that say OpenAI social app?

[B]

Oh, yeah. 20, 25, 49% chance. Wow.

[A]

But why would they do that? That makes no sense.

[B]

They want to do everything.

[A]

I think, I mean, I guess crack.

[B]

An IPO in 2025. 30% chance. That's actually, I might take that.

[A]

Kraken. Yeah, Kraken film A Kraken.

[B]

I think they could go public.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Since Kalshi is regulated, insider trading on Kalshi could have real legal repercussions. Use of non public information to trade could be pursued under fraud statues or under the Commodity Exchange Act.

[A]

Okay, so it's, it's more of a less gray area.

[B]

Yeah. Yep.

[A]

It's more solid pink as a term.

[B]

Anthropic. Acquired in 2025. 7% chance. I might take that one. That's one that Apple would probably want.

[A]

Anthropic.

[B]

This is something, I mean it's all gambling, right? Like this, this is.

[A]

Yeah, but it's gambling with at least a little bit of knowledge. Whereas I feel like with sports, in order to like do well in sports gambling, you really gotta know. You know what I mean? You gotta know what's going on. And I know like tangentially what's going on. You know what I mean? Like, but not enough to be like the stats. That's why, like those. What was the ones that they used to do with like the daily. They got around the gambling laws because they did the daily fantasy sports.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Where you. Instead of it doing a season because they basically. That was like a gray area where they were like, it's okay, we're not gonna. It's not really gambling fantasy sports. They kind of let it go because they didn't want the, like, group of the office mates to be like, hey, everybody dig. Let's do a fantasy football team. You know what I mean? Somebody wins 100 bucks at the end. But then these companies popped up. Now they're just full time sports bets, but they popped up and they were like, okay, we're doing real time fantasy stuff. So it's like you're picking your fantasy players the moment the game starts. And that's. You know what I mean? So it's really just gambling. But the guys that would win were like really scientific, detailed oriented statisticians. Fucking. Yeah. They're satisfied. So it's not like a guy who just kind of knows who's on the Dodgers. Could be like, hey, I win.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Anyway, all right, next story. Watch out for flying burritos. Chipotle orders take flight with first autonomous aircraft delivery options in Texas. This was submitted by Corey Clayton. This makes me very happy. Essentially, there's a company, and I watched a. Watched a documentary. It might have been like a YouTube guy, but I watched a documentary about this company, Zipline.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they were doing drone deliveries of blood from a blood bank in, like, in Africa. So what they were doing was they had these, like, drones that would fly. They would launch them off. So it was like really low energy use because they basically catapulted them out. And they basically, the hospitals in Africa would be like, okay, we need O positive, you know, two pints of O positive. And they would literally go to the thing, pick up the two pints of O positive, put it on these. These drones, and they would shoot them off these like, catapults, and then they would fly to the hospital and they would lower them down and the doctors would take the blood out. And then they would go back and get caught in a net. It was crazy watching this happen. Super cool. They then started these, like, these zipline stations. So basically what they do is. And I didn't know that they had started doing this, but it's really great that they have actually started doing this. But what they do is they have these, like, zip stations where they basically build these, like, racks of drones in the backs of like, a Target or a. Back of a grocery store, in this case in Texas, in the back of a Chipotle. And what they do is they have all the stations and all the different drones. And so the delivery is assigned to a drone. They then take the bag out, put it into the thing. But the thing that Zipline does is the drone itself will hover over the delivery location 300ft in the air and it drops the package with a cable down to the ground. So the person then pulls the stuff out and then the cable goes back in and the drone goes away. So it helps from the sort of like safety and noise issue because it's only going to hover 300ft above. But they were like, they've started allowing people in Dallas, in the greater Dallas, Texas area to order your food. And this, to me, it kind of goes back to the thing with like the drone charger station and the cameras and the autonomous like popping up and being like, like I feel like this is how we're gonna get Amazon deliveries.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause it's crazy to me that I can order shit on Amazon and it will be there in like three hours.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somebody shows and hucks the shit over my thing. But think about this, where it's just. You're literally just putting the stuff in this thing and then the thing comes flying over. You know it's there, it lowers it down, you take your stuff out and it goes back up and flies.

[B]

That's so awesome.

[A]

It's amazing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this place has been the. This company's been around actually for a long time.

[B]

Yeah, I invested in them, this company.

[A]

You invested in Zipline?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I don't know, maybe like six or seven years ago.

[A]

Get the fuck out.

[B]

Yeah. Crazy long time ago.

[A]

And what. How is it? So it must be doing good.

[B]

Yeah, I mean they, like you said they started off with just doing blood delivery to kind of perfect the all the drone side of things. And this was always the plan was to eventually have something where they could do more domestic kind of local delivery of all different types of things. But they started off with really essential goods and it was not this, as you saw, like long range, kind of like drop offs. But yeah, I should get an update. I haven't talked to the company in a while.

[A]

I mean, they're clearly delivering Chipotle.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And like how cool. Like, and of course, like Amazon has.

[B]

Some of this stuff too.

[A]

Well, they have the droney things, but I don't know if it's in our area or if it's even deployed yet.

[B]

I haven't seen anything delivered in LA yet.

[A]

No. No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Which is interesting because I feel like LA is a pretty like good, like, I mean, I, I don't know about you, but I took a waymo over here. Like we have, you know, a lot of stuff in, in the area, which is going to be cool. I would love to. If they did, if they did some drone delivery stuff.

[B]

Yeah, same. Like, I feel like that, like, to your point. Well, it's tough because, like, everything we're doing now is just put people out of jobs.

[A]

I mean, that's the tough thing. But that has always been the case with all of technology, right? Like, you know, horses, I mean, honestly, horses, right? Like, you would hire a guy to take your thing down to the market, you know what I mean? Because. And then horses were like, well, this guy's cheap, works for hay. You know what I mean? But also like a gun, you know, it's like, well, we have to hire 10 of these hunter guys with the arrows because nobody's really good at this. You know what I mean? And there was like, oh, I just made a gun so I can just walk out and bang, get a horse. Not a horse.

[B]

I'm not holding your analogies perfectly here, but I kind of get what you make sense, right?

[A]

If you squint, it tracks.

[B]

If you squint through the wine, it tracks.

[A]

Oh, my God, the wine is so good right now.

[B]

Smells so good.

[C]

I'm very pro worker and, you know, love unions and all that stuff. But I, I am worried how much Waymo has ruined Ubers for me. I, I, I have a really hard time with drivers and, and what the interactions are, are like, and some horrible driving and getting car sick and Waymo ruined me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, dude, we technology is both making things better and ruining things things at the same time. Like, it is the same leap that I made from taxis to Ubers. Yeah. Because when I got into an Uber for the first time, I was like, oh, taxes are the worst. They smell so bad. They're nasty. The drivers, I mean, they all the time, bad taxes.

[A]

And by the way, if you have.

[B]

To call, you have to call them.

[A]

To come ask one to come to you, and then the neighbor will show up. Yeah, dude, that's so funny. Yeah, the jump from taxis to Uber is the same feeling as the jump from uber to Waymo. 100%, where it's like, boy, this feels like a much better version of this experience that we've all had for fucking centuries. You know what I mean? Like, fucking horses and carriages. Like, getting someone to drive you somewhere is a fucking thing. I also feel like I wish LA was better with the public transit. It's just the subway system is laid out incorrectly. I was just talking to my folks about this. This weekend I was down in San Diego and I was like, you know, we grew up in D.C. or I grew up in D.C. right? The D.C. metro system makes a lot of sense because it's this whole concept that everybody had when they were making their metros, or most people had when they were making their metro station, which is. It's about a central city. The job of the metros is to get people into Washington dc. Yeah, and that makes perfect fucking sense in DC because everybody lives in the, in the suburbs. And all the suburbs filter into Washington D.C. or into the city center because that's where everybody, most everybody works. And there's fun things along the way where it's like, well, I'm a little bit this way, but I'm going to. I work at Tyson's Corners and it's on one of the metro things. So it's like, I can take the metro to work.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I've taken those before.

[A]

But in la it does not work because it's set up the same way the subway system is set to bring people into downtown la. Nobody works in downtown la. That's not where the industry is. That's not where the work is. And so we have this, you know, the wheel and spoke thing, but there's no, no end of the wheel. And so we were. I was talking about this because they just opened an LAX Metro stop and they're doing a tram that's going to go from the LAX Metro center into LAX and all the different things. Because you've been to lax. It's a fucking shit show.

[B]

Yeah, it's a shit show.

[A]

It's one of the worst airports I've ever been to. You know what I mean? But to have a tram that goes through to all the different terminals from the Metro, that's great. The problem is, is if I, who live near the Grove, if I want to go to LAX to that Metro station, I have to take the Metro to downtown LA for no reason. Then I have to go from downtown LA to like south stop on another train, all the way down to the la. It's just like, yeah, look at that. It makes sense. Everybody is trying to get to downtown la. Nobody is trying to get to downtown la. People are trying to get from, you know. So where's the Wilshire one? The Wilshire La Brea one that just, that is just about to open?

[B]

You can go up to LAX from like, you can go up to Santa Monica from there, right?

[A]

No, because that C is. Or the E line is way low.

[B]

You can't just go and make a lefty.

[A]

No, not at all. That's not Santa Monica. So go up. Where's the Santa Monica they haven't even made the Santa Monica one.

[B]

No, it's down there at the very end on the far left. Farthest left of Santa Monica. Down the yellow on the farthest.

[A]

Yeah. So you could go to the, the, to the, from. Take the whatever, the yellow to the pink and then down to lax. Yes, you could do that. But for me, who's up on the purple? Ah, I gotta take the purple all the way in downtown la. Then I gotta take the yellow all the way to the hub. To the hub, to the pink.

[B]

Everybody, everyone in the world right now is watching this. Been like, yeah, I don't care.

[A]

Yeah, I know you don't care. It's just very difficult for us who live in Los Angeles.

[B]

Why don't we even talk about taking a motherfucking drink once? Yeah, exactly. Why are you complaining about it?

[A]

Fine. It was fine. But also I would take it more often if it was closer and didn't go to more places. Anyway, what were we talking about? Zip lines.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Not ziplines. Zipline.

[B]

Zipline. And now it is time for our next sponsor.

[A]

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[B]

We were there.

[A]

You had some non alcoholic beer, which seemed good.

[B]

Well, there is good out in this one.

[A]

There is just not what he was drinking. And yep, they even picked up some exclusive merch. We used Square to handle everything on site. Hats, stickers, beta badges. We sold it all with just a few taps notes.

[B]

We can sell beta badges.

[A]

I think we sell beta badges.

[B]

Do we sell beta badges?

[A]

Beta badges?

[B]

Yeah, that's what I said.

[A]

What's a beta badge? I don't know. Did we sell them?

[B]

We didn't.

[A]

It said we're selling beta badges. We sell beta badges. Maybe it was a little like badgy where like a, like a share. We sold it all with just a few tabs. No stress, no tech issues, just clean transactions and smooth setup that let us focus on connecting with the people that make the community what it is. That's you. Square helped us track inventory, take payments, kept the lines moving. And it wasn't just about selling merch. It was about making the experience feel seamless. I mean, I love Square. Everybody uses Square, the cash app. That's what I use. If you are running a business or planning your own pop up event like I did When I did my smash burger pop up event.

[B]

Thanks for the invite.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Creatine is good for brain health and muscles.

[B]

That's the new and mooskals and I the only thing that makes it palatable at all is Element and I, I do love element because it is a great mixer for so many things.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

And I'm not drinking but it is, it is my go to drink for hydration. I've got a sauna. My sauna routine is back on.

[A]

Oh nice.

[B]

And so I've been hitting the sauna and there is nothing, nothing better for me than post sauna orange salt flavor. Put a stick in. There's zero sugar and it gives me all the electrolytes that I need. Sodium, potassium, magnesium, all that stuff is in there.

[A]

I used it today at the gym. I love it. I take it with me at the gym and I power through it while I'm working out.

[B]

Do you put any creatine or anything else in there?

[A]

I do creatine protein shake after the gym.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah.

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[A]

Thank you.

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[A]

I mean, I'm a pro athlete and.

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[A]

Don't come. Don't come. Yeah, ex Navy SEAL fan club.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. I'm the Navy SEALs.

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[A]

That'd be great.

[B]

I've yet to try that yet. Me neither. You have to try it yet. Yeah, yeah, try it risk free. If you don't like it, they'll refund you, no questions asked. They ask a question, then you probably email the wrong people. Yeah.

[A]

That is not an Element spokesperson. You should go and delete yourself with. Delete me.

[B]

They do not ask questions.

[A]

They do not ask questions.

[B]

I actually don't even ask for you to send back the samples either, which I thought was quite cool. They asked you to gift somebody who.

[A]

Might enjoy the flavor. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Anyways, thank you Element. You guys rock. And thank you for hiding our testicles.

[A]

I am very interested to see what you are going to talk about in this next little section here, my friend.

[B]

CDs are making a comeback.

[A]

Compact discs.

[B]

Compact discs.

[A]

So the compact disc.

[B]

I bought a CD player.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And Mal recently bought a CD player and I didn't even know it. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We did this independent of.

[A]

CDs are badge of this baby.

[B]

So here's.

[A]

Heather's going to be so happy. She has not gotten rid of a single one of her CDs.

[B]

And she's wealthy.

[A]

She has. Has huge cabinets.

[C]

I'm so upset with past version of me throwing away my CDs.

[B]

Same. What was your first CD of all time? Mine was MC Hammer. Hammer. Please don't hate them.

[A]

Mine might have been Jesus Jones.

[C]

I think mine was a single of a lighter shade of brown. I don't know if you remember that.

[A]

That band. Okay.

[C]

Is popular in the burbs.

[B]

What was your favorite CD like as a kid? Like you was on repeat. I mean, I had. I hate to say it. I had Vanilla Ice and I played that shit a lot.

[A]

Dude, everybody did.

[B]

Paul Abdul.

[A]

There was a reason why.

[B]

Remember when Paul Abdul was so hot?

[A]

Oh, yes.

[B]

Back in the day. Did you like her?

[A]

How could you not?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

That video with the animated cat.

[B]

The cat.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

She was good.

[A]

Oh, man. I would say the one that like a. The Andrew Dice Clay stand up comedy thing was I had on repeat a lot. And then also. Oh, what was it? What was the one that was like super dirty rap wasn't nwa. Oh, it was nwa. No, no, no. That was like real rap. This was like.

[B]

It was probably too short. Easy E. No, no, no.

[A]

None of that. It was like this whole like Jerky Boys first off. No.

[B]

Do you like the Jerky Boys?

[A]

Two Live Crew.

[B]

Oh, two Live Crew.

[A]

Two Live Crew. I loved it. Too loud.

[B]

You know who the Jerky Boys are?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, of course. They were like the phone call guys.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, they're awesome.

[A]

Yeah. So I love those guys because I would just like listen to the. Oh, man. It was so. And it was so Great. Because it was like just at that time when you were like, I was not old enough to have the cd and it was like so dirty. I didn't understand any of it really. But it was just like, it was like this thing. It was like, I shouldn't be listening to this.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, man. The first time I heard Eazy E. I'll never forget it, I was like, was so good. As a child, I was, As a child, I was very much put into this path of like Sunday school religious services.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Like very like, not easy. Not easy. Easy was not allowed. And I. And I remember being picked up from school and I was in second grade and it was by a friend's brother that I had gone to school with. And he's like, we're gonna put something crazy on. And he puts in Eazy E. And I remember just being like, oh, my dad says some of those words. But not like this. Like, it was like, it was so hardcore. I was like, what? Like, there is so much swearing in this.

[A]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[B]

I was, I. I didn't even. I was like, what? I don't even know some of those words. Or probably private parts. Like I didn't know what the hell was going on.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

That like was an eye opening experience.

[A]

You got to get a copy of the Eazy cd.

[B]

Oh, I have a lot of. I mean, I don't. Yeah, I probably should actually.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Now you're into the cd. So what happened?

[B]

So the one thing I realized is that something that's lost in modern day era is we jump around to whatever fancies us, which is nice and convenient, but it's also not really forcing you to take a deliberate look at the entire layout of an album. Like, you don't really listen to albums anymore.

[A]

Remember the hidden tracks? Yeah.

[B]

You had to wait until like a couple minutes later.

[A]

Track 99, Green Day had one that I played when I was in college. The I was alone. I love that song.

[B]

The cool thing about having those CDs is when you get the fold out pamphlet so you can kind of look at through some of the. Read the lyrics.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then you also get that. That experience of how that band put that whole package together during that capsule of time. Now the cool thing and I've been getting into is these limited edition and they're still very affordable. Like $25 to $30 per disc super audio CD, limited edition mono releases of old jazz albums. So why is this important? I don't Know, old jazz before stereo mixes was all created mono. And so it was mix post to make stereo. So that was actually not how it was recorded. That was like the deviatification of it all. To make it like a higher tech.

[A]

Star wars special edition.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So if you really want that. Good, good. Like the original shit, you got to get the mono release tracks on super audio CD of the original jazz. So. So I got this Macintosh because I love their shit, the 350 CD player, and it plays super audio CDs as well.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And so I've been getting a lot of these Rare Super Audio Cs. And now here's the other thing. This is like some early shit. So you're hearing it first.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If you can go online and you can say, okay, I'll just pull out an artist, say the first Nirvana album. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, you can go in there and you can find the CD sku and what was the very first release? Because they've released it like a thousand times since the first pressing.

[A]

Right, Yeah, I have that.

[B]

And so you can find this.

[A]

I mean, I have the Nevermind, which is not technically their first cd, but. Yes.

[B]

Well, even Nevermind, they sold so many millions of those copies.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

The first pressing of it, like the first CDs of it has a very specific SKU typically associated with it. And you can find those. And they're like $7 or $10. But if someone knows that it's the first pressing, it'll be like, like $17. So. No, no, hold on though. But if this goes the way of vinyl.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Those first original pressings of vinyl. And I know it's a very different medium, but it's still physical media.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Those are hundreds of dollars now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So I'm just thinking, like, you know.

[A]

Start a CD used collection.

[B]

Yeah. Just buy a couple extras. One for the play, one for the vault, you know.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You know, because if you can pick them up for like 6 bucks on eBay, why not?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you're not wrong.

[B]

Eventually the nostalgia will kick in for somebody to be like, oh, I want CDs. And the cool thing about CDs is that you won't get the same degradation you do with vinyl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And a lot of that stuff was recorded around that, especially in the 90s, around that time era, for that medium, you know, so it was like, I don't know, it's. I don't think it'll be as collectible as vinyl. Because vinyl is warm, very warm in a way that CDs aren't. But if you run through a Macintosh set up with some tubiums, you get a pretty warm sand out of them.

[C]

Anyway, I have a blasphemous take. And I think there's probably a lot of audio files that. That would agree. CD sounds better than vinyl. Vinyl has.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

It. And some of them are mixed specific to vinyl to have better dynamic range. But CDs just sound better. They last longer.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

But there is something. I gotta say. There's something really cool about pulling out. They call them, like, these hot stampers. Like the first press that press pressings of these vinyl records. And you go over to somebody's house.

[A]

And they have the hot stampers.

[B]

Yeah. You have, like, this first pressing, and you're like, hey, this is the first, you know, Michael Jackson thriller ever pressed. And you, like, put it down and put it on our. That's probably a poor one. Like an old Bob Dylan or something, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you put it on and you just sink that needle in. And the little slight clickiness of it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Poppiness. I love that warmth that comes out of it, especially with a good tube amp. It's just like butter, you know? And it's like, you just sit. I mean, if I had whiskey, I just sit with a whiskey.

[A]

I was like, that's the thing. You're like, all right, let's pop that Bob Dylan on it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I have.

[A]

I have both.

[C]

I still collect vinyl. I still have a massive vinyl collection from the 90s and on. But my new approach is vinyl is for collecting. CD is for listening.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yep. The way to do it, anyway, I'm gonna talk you into getting.

[A]

Well, now I'm gonna go. I mean, I literally. I'm gonna go home and open up Heather's CD cabinet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And just look to see if there's anything. Cause it's all her cd. So I'm like, I don't know if I need Indigo Girls in my life right now.

[B]

Yeah, but you should get some of the old ones now before they go.

[C]

Who would you buy back right now immediately?

[A]

Like, who would I buy back?

[C]

What album would you buy back immediately as a CD right now?

[A]

Oh, my first Primus album.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

I Fucking Old Man H Nails to.

[B]

Pretty Hate Machine on cd. That album. Album Slide out was great. She might even have the Wall was great on cd. Remember that Double Thick. Everyone remembers their CD of the Wall. That double Thick. That was fantastic.

[A]

She might have some of that stuff.

[B]

Metallica, Black Album.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Remember when that came out? I was like, ooh, Satan's in there.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Satan's in you. I love that you grew up religious. I didn't even know about you. Oh, look, Mom, Satan's in here.

[B]

My parents. My mom found Snoop Dogg Doggy style, and I had it, like, hidden behind my things, you know? And she was like, I read some of the lyrics in here. And, like. And she was pissed.

[A]

Just sit down. Smoke this.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Let me just put this on.

[B]

Oh, God. Oh, dude. I remember when I. You know, when you're younger. I wish I still like weed. I don't, but, like, when I love, loved weed. I remember coming in and my mom just being like, your eyes are so bloodshot. Are you okay? Are you getting sick? And I'm like, yeah, I just need some chips. Yeah, I just. So sick.

[A]

Do you have any salt and vinegar chips?

[B]

Guacamole?

[A]

Chips and guacamole, please.

[B]

Those are fun days, though.

[A]

My God, you mean being a kid. Yes. They were amazing.

[B]

So much fun.

[A]

It was the best. I love. It was so funny. So I watched. There's this guy, I think he's in the uk and his little son. And he does this thing where he goes, I'm gonna tell you something that you don't understand. He's like, think about what would be one of the worst punishments? He's like, I don't know. He was like, we used to want to go outside. He was like, why would you want to go outside? And he was like, no. That's what I would do is we would go outside. Staying inside was a place punishment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They would say, you need to go to your room. And he was like, why would that be a punishment? I love being in my room.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He was like, yeah. If I told you your punishment is you have to go outside. He was like, what would I do outside?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was like, oh, my God. And then the other thing he did, which I thought was so funny, was he was like, okay, I'm gonna go in this room, and you need to come to the door. And you're trying to ask your friend to come outside and play.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And he goes through all this stuff, and it's the best. It's like, genius, because the kid knocks, and then he, like, waits. He knocks again, and the guy opens it and he's like, why are you knocking a second time? He's like, you're gonna get your friend killed. He's like, those parents are, like, on their way to the door. You knock a second time. Are you crazy?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was like, oh, my God, that's so funny.

[B]

Did you see that? Did you see the video that went viral of a kid trying to, like, doorbell ding and ditch?

[A]

It's so great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He likes one, and his dad, like, is running. He's like, run.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. And the kid's like, he freezes. He's like, my dad said, it's part of childhood. I need to do this.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And she's like, what are you doing? The dad sort of sprinting in the back.

[A]

He was like, just run. Oh, my God. There's so much stuff. I mean, I know it's like old man talking about old man things, but, like, it's. There was so much different. I mean, it's back to, like, the 5600, you know, 56K modem. Like, there was just so much different in life. But that feels like it might be less than now. Look, I play video games with my buddy almost every day. It's awesome. I feel like I hang out with my buddy all the time. So I get that playing video games with your friends online is socializing in its own way, but there was something about, like, going outside and, like, hanging out and doing stuff and also figuring out how to entertain yourself.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, that's the other thing. My buddy said that.

[B]

He's got kids.

[A]

No, he's got kids. And he said one of the most.

[B]

Frustrating, like, what do we do now?

[A]

Yeah. They'll come up to him and be like, I'm bored.

[B]

Oh, there's 20 kids.

[A]

You got fucking video games. You got television. You got fucking all these things.

[B]

You're bored.

[A]

Figure it out. Go entertain yourself.

[B]

I think I said I was bored, too, but that was only when we'd, like, go to places like I didn't want to go to, like, the. Like, a car.

[A]

When someone was like, it's after school. You've done your homework. Go outside.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You would never be like, I'm bored. Or you'd say to your friend, I'm bored. And you'd be like, I don't know. You want to go poke this tree with a stick? That's right. Like, thank you.

[B]

Thank you. Exactly. I would go over there and be like, we'd be like, we're both bored. We should probably break something. Yes, 100%.

[A]

Let's light this tree on fire. Exactly.

[B]

I'm sure it will be fine. That was the first thing you do. You'd be like, what can we destroy, dude?

[A]

What?

[B]

We are bored.

[A]

You probably didn't get this much because you were in Vegas, but when it would rain, it would rain, like, torrential.

[B]

Yeah. So we have to do.

[A]

We had these, like, because there was so much rain and we lived on a hill, there was actually like a ditch. Like a full, big giant ditch.

[B]

Ours would take the water. We try and block it so we could get more build up water.

[A]

And then do the foil boats.

[B]

Oh, 100.

[A]

Trace them down the thing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I so was like, I just want to fucking slide down this thing. Like luge. And then when it was dry and bikes. Oh, you make a ramp on the things.

[B]

Yeah, let's do that again.

[A]

I'm surprised that we didn't die as children, but whatever. Anyway.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Speaking of. Not that new technologies. Next story. Powerful but proactive. Sorry. Powerful and proactive. Pixel 10 phones are here.

[B]

I ordered one.

[A]

Submitted by Skippy Bosco. Very Skippy Bosco. Here's the thing. Lots of cool stuff. I want to talk about one thing, which is the real time voice translate with AI local on the phone, not going to the cloud, not recording your stuff, but also using your voice as the translated mechanism on the other side. They showed a demo of this and it blew my mind. I was like, this is what you want. I mean, think about, like, for me, I was going through the process of doing the Italian citizenship thing. We talked about. Then the Italian government said we don't want Alex, which is sad.

[B]

Oh, did that happen?

[A]

Yeah, it did. Yeah. But they didn't want Alex because they don't want anybody that's. They just sort of locked it down. Cause too many people were doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is sad because I really did want my Italian citizenship because I love Italy and I'm, you know.

[B]

Yeah, but you.

[A]

At some point. But I don't want to leave. I just want to. Anyway, long story short, there were times when I was like talking to lawyers on the phone and they were Italian and I was English. And so I'm like trying to. You know. And this. You can literally turn it on and say, I want. You know, we're speaking English and Italian.

[B]

Oh, so cool.

[A]

And it literally will go. This video, you know, this is now using Google Translate. We are not recording this phone call. It will be translated in the voice of the speakers. I then say, okay, so I'm trying to get this form for the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It then translates it in my voice and says the Italian to the other person on the other Side of the line. They then respond in Italian. It then translates their voice into English. And I hear them talk to me in English.

[B]

I just had a brilliant idea. Keep going.

[A]

But that's it.

[B]

Are you getting one of these phones?

[A]

I mean, I'm getting one maybe.

[B]

So if we get two of them.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

We can flip them around and hook them to each other. And then I can call you and tell them I'm speaking to a Japanese person. You can say you're a Japanese person speaking to an English person. We could do double translation and then have it come out the other end and see what it does.

[A]

I mean, it might destroy the planet. But I'm.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? Like, we can, like, Japanese. That's really fun. I don't know why I was expecting some bigger idea to this this to that.

[A]

You can have, like.

[B]

Like five, four hops. You can chain them.

[A]

Oh, actually, it'd be really funny to see what telephone game happens, Right? Exactly.

[B]

With the loss of translations of, like, six different languages.

[A]

Oh, that's fucking fun.

[B]

That would be fun.

[A]

That would be really, really fun. This just makes me feel like. Think about, like, if you're in Japan. Oh, well, whatever.

[B]

We going to Japan?

[A]

Well, so I was gonna say, I'll drink for good. My birthday was last week.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Happy birthday to me. I already said happy birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all good. But my next birthday is a big birthday.

[B]

Oh, 50.

[A]

50.

[B]

Oh, fuck.

[A]

Yeah. You'll be there soon.

[B]

No, I won't. I got years.

[A]

You don't have years.

[B]

At least over more than a year.

[A]

That's not years. That's a year.

[B]

Well, it was just my half birthday a few a week ago.

[A]

I know, I know, because you're literally six months younger than me. But I was talking to my older sister and she was like, no, I'm six.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I am.

[A]

I was like. I was like, I'm thinking about going, like, on a trip with Heather. It would be so fun. And she was like, okay, but you gotta go to, like, on a big trip.

[B]

Like, go to Australia. I want to go to Antarctica or something.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Antarctica. Like, something not Italy.

[B]

What are you gonna do?

[A]

Japan.

[B]

Oh, sweet.

[A]

We're gonna go to Tokyo. Because I know you go to Tokyo a lot.

[B]

Oh, my God. I gotta see.

[A]

I've only been that one time. Heather's only been one time.

[B]

I will blow your mind now.

[A]

I'm so excited.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So next summer, August. Boom.

[B]

How many people do you want there.

[A]

I mean, nobody except me and Heather, plus maybe you and Daria.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, we should keep it small.

[A]

Well, because. So the other thing I'm gonna do.

[B]

Is I'm saying more than six and it gets complicated.

[A]

I was planning on doing it myself with just Heather, and then I was like, if I'm in.

[B]

Oh, we should go, dude, Kevin's gonna want. Oh, I'll take you.

[A]

And I would love it because I know you'd show me around. What's the.

[B]

You would. Your mind would be blown.

[A]

I'm so excited.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

I mean, by the way, we're going to then buy, like, matching condos in Shashuk or whatever.

[B]

Oh, dude, the price is there. It's so cheap, too, to buy stuff.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Anyway, so that's what I was going to do for my birthday anyway. But I'm very excited because I feel like we're getting to a point where pretty soon you're going to be able to sort of be wearing these things when you go and travel, to be like, hey, this is what I want.

[B]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

It's gonna be great.

[B]

I'm stoked. I'm actually pretty excited about all the Android stuff. I watched the whole thing. I don't know if you watched it.

[A]

I didn't.

[B]

No.

[A]

I just watched this video thing.

[B]

Our friend Jimmy Fallon did the.

[A]

Oh, right. Jimmy was the guy that was doing it.

[B]

He did the whole thing, which I thought was refreshing. It was cool to have so many of these stages are set now where it's like, oh, you're in your friend's hip living room and you're hanging out with tech people and, like, they just show you a cool demo and talk about their kids and maybe make a.

[A]

Joke that's like, we're drinking coffee. Let's put on the Apple fucking Vision Pro. And look over here while I'm talking. It's like, nah, nah.

[B]

It's a way disingenuous. But the thing that Jimmy did is he came out there and he was just. Jimmy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he was just joking around and he went off script a handful of times and you're like, finally something that. That I'm both getting the data that I want, the information that I want, but at the same time, they're having fun with it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And like, there was a joke where they mentioned Apple at one point, I saw that and he was like, it was the Magsafe. Can we say the A word?

[A]

Or whatever. She was like. She was like, yeah, it works with all other MagSafe things. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and Apple products. And he was like, are we allowed to say the a word on this?

[B]

Yeah, I know, but it was like. And she's like, yeah, like, we were confident in our products and we think they're badass. So, yeah, we're happy to like, put our name in, like, the same. And I was just like, finally, they're just talking from the heart versus from the script. And like, there was a couple things I didn't like, but that was like, in some other stuff. But I thought it was. As someone that was critiquing the whole thing, I thought, yeah.

[A]

I mean, when they ritually sacrificed the cow, I was like, that's a stretch.

[B]

Yeah, but I get it.

[A]

But I get it. You gotta figure out how to feed the AI.

[B]

Yeah, it was exactly the blood of a cow.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

But it was a great one. I think that the. This pixel is solid. It looks really solid. They do stuff that Apple. Apple is the privacy os. They've painted themselves with that siloed individual apps, can't talk to each other, blah, blah, blah. And I've liked that for a lot of what Apple has done. I like the fact that they've really locked down that device and ecosystem. But I will say, when you have Google sitting at that crossroads or that intersection of all things, email, calendar, contacts, like, all those things of your life, having AI sit at that layer and be able to make sense of it all. And some of the demos that they gave, I'm like, oh, this unlocks a lot, right? It's like, now we live in a world where like, oh, you're running, you know, 20 minutes late to that dinner. I'll call the restaurant and let them know and send your friends the text. And by the way, we'll take a different route because we're Google, we know it'll get you there faster.

[A]

Because Waymo, right?

[B]

Waymo is good like that. That's the shit where you're like, oh, they're connecting all of the dots in a way. I just haven't said it. I just made up that example. But you get it. Like, we're starting to see a little glimpse into that future, which looks pretty cool as long as they keep it private.

[A]

So let me ask you this too. What. What is that watch? Oh, it's the Pixel watch is because this, my Apple watch has just stopped taking a charge and it's new and I'm making sense. A little pissed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, well, but I mean, it's not that new. Like, I don't know if I can return. It's like six months. When was the last generation release? That's when I got this.

[B]

I mean, it still should be working. So that is.

[A]

I agree, I agree. I'm going to take it to an app store. Apple Store, or go to the App store.

[B]

Yeah, I got the.

[A]

What?

[B]

I got the new. Well, this is the new one. I have the new one coming, but this is just the Pixel Watch and I don't have my Android phone with me, so it's working on its own LTE right now.

[A]

What do you think, though?

[B]

I think it's great. I mean, it's got Fitbit built into it, so you get a lot more data up front. Like, you can't get steps on your watch without going through like a thousand hertz.

[A]

I know. I fucking hate it.

[B]

And like there's steps right on the front screen, which I'm like, thank you. I just, I don't. I get Apple. You want to have your proprietary rings and all that shit. I just want to see how many steps I've taken.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. And yeah, it's got calendars on the edge. That's great too. And miles and all that.

[A]

By the way, I never set the rings, so they're just the standard rings for a normal human that has the watch.

[B]

And then a friend completes the rings and it gives me a push. It's like your friend completed the rings. I'm like, all right, yeah.

[A]

And you're like, yeah, but did you lower the ring?

[B]

Right, exactly.

[A]

Doesn't say he completed my rings. He completed his rings.

[B]

I don't know. I kind of like this real time heart rate on the front. They have some firsts that have come out that now Apple has copied and they have a couple more now. Like they have satellite communication now. If you're out running and you don't have your phone with you and you don't have cell phone service, you can actually communicate with satellites and let people know that you're in trouble with your watch. They were the first ones to come out with on the watch. Loss of pulse detection. So if like you had a heart attack and they know you haven't removed your watch but they lose your pulse, I get that. Then they can go and call emergency services for you, which is awesome.

[A]

That's actually really nice.

[B]

They saved some lives. They actually had people on there, on the video where they were showing like people that were like this. Actually, like paramedics showed up, brought me back to life. And I'm like, I'm okay now. It's, like, insane.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So it's cool stuff. And then they're revamping the entire Fitbit app.

[A]

Do you have to have an Android phone?

[B]

Yes. Yes. Well, gotta get a Pixel 10.

[A]

See you next Tuesday. Android?

[B]

Are you gonna get one? Were you. You mean, like next season? Like, never?

[A]

No, that's the word. See you next Tuesday. Was a joke. I'll tell you later.

[B]

Is it something you talk about? The modern culture thing?

[A]

It's pretty ancient, but, yes, it's. You know. You'll see.

[B]

You'll see.

[A]

Anyway, guys, that was amazing. Oh, talk about a fun show.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, so fun. Coming in, bullshitting about stuff.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I'm gonna get a very small pool. Comically small pool. Oh, yeah, go ahead, tuck on in.

[B]

I just want to smell.

[A]

I mean, you gotta.

[B]

It does smell good. It does smell good.

[A]

Just saying.

[B]

No, I can't wait.

[A]

So is there an end date to this, or are you just.

[B]

There is.

[A]

2027 when I get my Chinese.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. He already gets a chance, Dar. I don't know. I'll report back next time.

[A]

Okay. All right, well, on that note, people, we are so glad that you came and sat with us for this hour and however long while I drank and Kevin water.

[B]

See you soon.