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Alex Albrecht
This is gonna be one of those days, guys. I'm starting to kind of get to this place where I just don't believe anything that Tesla says.
Kevin Rose
Dignation covers some of the hottest, weirdest, different stories around the fringes of the Internet. Sometimes mainstream, sometimes fringes, sometimes mainstream, technically, in aggregate. It was 40s.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, 144s.
Kevin Rose
What would we do now? Like, sparkling water? I don't know. This is like. This is toppling Gobbler. No.
Alex Albrecht
Toppling Gobbler. Like, I would pay so much money to have a cool watch face.
Kevin Rose
Dude, I've got this crazy theory that's about to happen.
Alex Albrecht
What?
Kevin Rose
So welcome to dignation.
Alex Albrecht
Also potentially hazardous to your health.
Kevin Rose
All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house?
Alex Albrecht
I noticed this in Southern California, and I have proved.
Kevin Rose
You put zombie and you put eerie in the title, and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com.
Alex Albrecht
Hello, everybody, and welcome to Dignation rebooted episode Numero 4. I believe that's correct. I'm Alex Albrecht.
Kevin Rose
And I'm Kevin Rose. Dignation covers some of the hottest, weirdest, different stories around the fringes of the Internet. Sometimes mainstream, sometimes fringes, sometimes mainstream.
Alex Albrecht
Mainstream. Should we tell everybody that you have been drinking?
Kevin Rose
Listen, I have not. No, I said mainstream, which was like a head of hair.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, the mainstream.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, like a good. What do you call that cut where it's, like, tight on the sides, high 10, parting in the back? Mullet. Mullet. Yeah, a mullet.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. So he's had a couple.
Kevin Rose
So, no, here's the deal. I had to fly in. I've had a hell of a few days.
Alex Albrecht
Dude, bro, you texted us your calendar. Just like, oh, my God, I have so much stuff to do. And I was like. It gave me agita, just knowing somebody on the planet had a calendar.
Kevin Rose
It was a lot. So I flew in. I just got back. I just landed. I hate flying. I had a glass of champagne on the flight. She offered me a second one, which was very kind.
Alex Albrecht
That's the best kind.
Kevin Rose
And I was just like, you know, I didn't want to turn down such a gift.
Alex Albrecht
Well, she'd be upset with you.
Kevin Rose
Of course she would. And that's her job, to provide joy. And she poured him a little heavy.
Alex Albrecht
Nice. Were you not aware that you had scheduled it to do designation afterwards? Yeah. No. I mean, like, were you supposed to fly in yesterday or something?
Kevin Rose
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I was supposed to fly in yesterday, and I was just gonna sleep, and then we'd be all good.
Alex Albrecht
But, like, not that it matters.
Kevin Rose
No, it's just. It was just one of those things where I was like, okay, I'm gonna thread this needle because I'm leaving to London on Sunday, and so I'm glad we got a chance to record.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Which is awesome. So I'm out there for a little bit, and then I go to Berlin for True Ventures AI Summit, which is gonna be fun. AI Dinner.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, that'll be good.
Kevin Rose
Really cool. We're finding a lot of new AI companies at True, which is a lot of fun.
Alex Albrecht
But that'll be cool. When you come back, you'll have to tell us what you can tell us.
Kevin Rose
Oh, dude, I've got so much stuff to show you. Oh, Spac. I want to talk about one story. Oh, spac.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, Spac. Are you talking to, like. Oh, Spock. Oh, Spock. I was trying to remember the story.
Kevin Rose
I do have a story. I wanted to fit that in. I don't know if I can now, but anyway, actually, I should. I should. Let me just pull it up while we're.
Alex Albrecht
Okay, well, while you're pulling it up, I had a thought, which was, I remember one of the loveliest times that we had as two knuckleheads drinking on a couch for some semblance of a profession 12 years ago. Twelve years ago, or more than 12 years ago, was when we decided it would be a good idea to tape 40 ounces of beers to our hands.
Kevin Rose
Oh, the Edward 40 Hands.
Alex Albrecht
Edward 40 Hands. And I wanted to. I feel like that's something we should figure out. How, as adult humans that are responsible.
Kevin Rose
Ish.
Alex Albrecht
Could recreate something in the spirit of Edward 40 hands.
Kevin Rose
But not the same.
Alex Albrecht
Well, I mean, maybe it's just the same as. Did one of us dies 40s or.
Kevin Rose
Did we do 20s?
Alex Albrecht
No, we did. We did 22s. Highballs, or whatever they're called.
Kevin Rose
No, highballs are whiskey with.
Alex Albrecht
No, yeah. Not highballs.
Kevin Rose
We did a ball of cocaine.
Alex Albrecht
We did a ball of cocaine. Yeah. Ate ball of coke. We're good. Then we went right into it. No, no, no. We were doing Tall Boys.
Kevin Rose
22S. Yeah. 22s.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. Tall Boys. Yeah.
Kevin Rose
It was two 22s.
Alex Albrecht
Two 22s, technically, in aggregate.
Kevin Rose
It was 40s.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
One 40s.
Alex Albrecht
One 44s.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
So we did Edward 44s. Hands.
Kevin Rose
What would we do now? Like, sparkling water?
Alex Albrecht
I don't know.
Kevin Rose
We feel like we're so old. I don't have any water.
Alex Albrecht
Sparkling water hands.
Kevin Rose
I don't know. I'm just Trying to dial it back a touch.
Alex Albrecht
I know. Well, the funny thing is, like, now I drink so much wine, I was like, way I'm putting two bottles of red wine on my hands.
Kevin Rose
Oh, they can have little half bottles.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, correct.
Kevin Rose
Do a little duck horn on one and a little duck horn. You know what I mean? Like, you like that, Cabby? Cab.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, I do like that. Thank you so much.
Kevin Rose
Mal's the best.
Alex Albrecht
Anyway, so I was just thinking about that the other day. I was like, you know what? This could be really fun.
Kevin Rose
Let's do that for another episode.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. This is a throwback. And then we can show ourselves side by side.
Alex Albrecht
Exactly. And how much we. That's one of the things that is so bad is now my YouTube algorithm shows me my face, and I'm like, I don't. I haven't had enough coffee.
Kevin Rose
We gotta get you some Botox or something.
Alex Albrecht
We gotta do something good. I'm doing all right.
Kevin Rose
I did the vampire thing. You should do that one.
Alex Albrecht
I know. I should do the vampire thing. At the least, we could record me getting a vampire thing.
Kevin Rose
Agreed. Agreed. Give me the sponsor. It vampirefacials.com.
Alex Albrecht
So you have things.
Kevin Rose
So I have things.
Alex Albrecht
You have treats. Oh, my God, Mal, you're the best.
Kevin Rose
Water's the best water. Cheers. Cheers. Okay, that was fast. All right, so here's the thing about the number one beers in the world. I got called out a little bit. Oh, okay.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
Oh.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, for the cause. We had Pliny the Elder, right?
Kevin Rose
Yes. But I never said that was number one.
Alex Albrecht
No, you said number three.
Kevin Rose
What I said was Hetty Topper was number one.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
And I was like, okay, I want to find. Try and get some Hedy Topper. Technically speaking, okay, Hedy Topper is the number one ranked ipa.
Alex Albrecht
That makes sense.
Kevin Rose
So in that genre, that style of beer, it is number one. Okay. Okay. Okay. So the good news is.
Alex Albrecht
Wait, did you get some?
Kevin Rose
I got us Heady Toppers.
Alex Albrecht
Oh.
Kevin Rose
So that is the number one ranked. And they don't let you pour it into a cup.
Alex Albrecht
They don't let you.
Kevin Rose
No, look at what it says here.
Alex Albrecht
Drink from the can. Drink from the can. Yeah, they're very okay, like.
Kevin Rose
But the number one beer in the world. Oh, so we're gonna have stout. This. Jesus, is no joke. This is the Kentucky Brunch by Toppling Goggler. No, it's Toppling Goliath is the Toppling Gobbler.
Alex Albrecht
Toppling Gobbler is going to become my New screen name for everything.
Kevin Rose
Listen, this is toppling Gobbler's Kentucky Brunch. Look at how they wrap it. This is like, no joke. So here's the deal. It's dipped in, like, this beautiful silver wax.
Alex Albrecht
This is like the. What's the membrane from Harry Potter where they take the memories out and put it in the pool?
Kevin Rose
Anyway, something that saw that a long time ago. Shit, I don't have that now. I don't have the bottle opener. Okay, we'll grab one.
Alex Albrecht
You have a bottle opener?
Kevin Rose
So I do have one.
Alex Albrecht
So wait, so are we.
Kevin Rose
So this is a stout. So stouts are technically, like, the top five beers in the world. And then they go down to Heady Topper, which is the first IPA on the list, which is technically the number one IPA in the world. So that's where we're. We're gonna try a little Heady Topper.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, got it. You have one for that? Yeah, got it, got it. And that one we can put in cups.
Kevin Rose
Let's just split one. Just because we're supposed to only drink out of the can. That's right.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
I just. I have, like. I have, like. I bought eight of them, but I will say that they hit hard, and.
Alex Albrecht
So this is gonna be one of those days, guys.
Kevin Rose
No, I don't want it to be one of those days. And, Cal. Oh, my God. I got our analytics back for the podcast. Cause I logged in a transistor. Yeah, it's not good, dude.
Alex Albrecht
Why is that not good?
Kevin Rose
I mean, it's good. There is for the boys. There is gal.
Alex Albrecht
It's for the boys.
Kevin Rose
There's, like, three women watching right now, by the way.
Alex Albrecht
Ladies. Thank you.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, you know what?
Alex Albrecht
Thank you for coming.
Kevin Rose
It's probably. I don't know what it was, but.
Alex Albrecht
Like, I will say that it's always been that way.
Kevin Rose
Hey. Hey.
Alex Albrecht
Cheers.
Kevin Rose
Cheers, brother.
Alex Albrecht
Thank you, Matt. Awesome.
Kevin Rose
So this will put some hair in your chest. This is very hoppy forward.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, see, this is my kind of beer.
Kevin Rose
Said that her and her husband would watch together when she was a little commenting. See, that's the thing. Okay, So a lot of couples watch it together.
Alex Albrecht
That's great.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. 8%, which is not too bad.
Alex Albrecht
This is good. This is smooth for an ipa.
Kevin Rose
It is good. It is good.
Alex Albrecht
Usually IPA gives you that, like, funky Negroni back. You know what I mean? Where it, like.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, the sour, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alex Albrecht
By the way, everybody knows what earwax tastes like, right? Like, I feel like I say that, like, Negroni tastes Like earwax. And people go, like, how do you know what your wax tastes like? But I also bite my fingernails after.
Kevin Rose
You clean your earwax.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, it can happen. That's how I go. Ugh, what the fuck?
Kevin Rose
And it is earwax. Interesting. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Tastes like macaroni, if anybody's wondering.
Kevin Rose
Q tips.
Alex Albrecht
But I mean, Q tips. Are you not supposed to use Q tips? Yeah, but I used to use pen.
Kevin Rose
Do you forget how often do you clean your ears?
Alex Albrecht
Real talk, I mean, not. What did you say?
Kevin Rose
How often? Seriously, Be honest.
Alex Albrecht
Not often. Not often. I'll get out of the shower when I feel like everything's a little looser.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. And then just go on and go to town.
Alex Albrecht
But that's maybe like six times a year. What? Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Holy shit. I'm like, once every seven days. Almost every day. Every day. It feels great. It does feel great.
Alex Albrecht
It does feel great.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. Are you pulling out?
Alex Albrecht
Like, I shouldn't say this.
Kevin Rose
We don't talk about it.
Alex Albrecht
I had dated a girl.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Who? She. There was something obsessive, like she just loved cleaning other people's ears. Oh.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. I had one of those one time.
Alex Albrecht
I don't know where that came from.
Kevin Rose
I had a girl that.
Alex Albrecht
But it was also kind of nice. Cause I felt like my ears were, like. Had never been as clean.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
You know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
I dated someone that wanted to be like an esthetologist. Is that what they call them?
Alex Albrecht
An esthetician.
Kevin Rose
Esthetician. But she just wanted to clear everybody's pores. Oh. And she'd be like, oh, let me just work on the whole thing. And I was like, okay.
Alex Albrecht
But like, it's like, Kevin comes, he's just got red all over.
Kevin Rose
No, but nobody really wants somebody to, like, just pick at you and shit. I don't know. It just seemed a little. Anyway, it didn't work out. But I will say, this is lovely, Kevin. It is lovely. It is lovely. But I want you to try the number one beer in the world. So this is truly. So here's the deal with this beer. And I don't want people to think, you know, we're doing this for the show. So this is not something we drink every day. Nor would you want to, because stouts are like.
Alex Albrecht
Don't you have to peel the wax off first?
Kevin Rose
Yeah, but sometimes you can just get in there.
Alex Albrecht
Have you ever opened one before?
Kevin Rose
I've done one before. Like, a long time ago. I had one of these in Portland when I lived out there because I just wanted to try It. It was like Covid. And I was like, we're all going to die, so I might as well get the best beer in the world. Okay, I got it.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, I'm so nervous.
Kevin Rose
So here's the deal with this. Because it's a stout.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, it's different.
Kevin Rose
You have the hand numbered bottle.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
This is the 2022 vintage. And actually, no, the older ones are worth more. So you can age these like wine. So there was some on my beer collectibles that were like over a thousand.
Alex Albrecht
Dollars and they're gonna put it in a wine glass.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, dude, this is like.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God.
Kevin Rose
Dude. Yeah, this is like some deep shit.
Alex Albrecht
This, that. That is like the shit that comes out of the evil guy at the end of Blade. You know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
Yeah, this is like. Oh, no, it's not. Whoa, don't say bad.
Alex Albrecht
No, no, no. Just surprising.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, it's chocolatey. It's. That smells really good, bro.
Alex Albrecht
That smells like dessert.
Kevin Rose
You gotta try some of this.
Alex Albrecht
That smells like dessert.
Kevin Rose
Let me pour you a little bit of this here.
Alex Albrecht
Get a little tasting here.
Kevin Rose
It's like car oil in a way.
Alex Albrecht
It looks exactly like used car oil.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So cheers. And let's give this a smell. Very chocolate notes. Little walnut. Sweet, sweet, sweet walnut. Chocolate. Little clove ball. Oh, that's good.
Alex Albrecht
Dude, that tastes like a fucking dessert wine.
Kevin Rose
You see why this is the number one beer in the world? Dessert. Like that is good though.
Alex Albrecht
It does not taste like beer. It is glorious.
Kevin Rose
Isn't that amazing?
Alex Albrecht
Oh, Lord.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, but so guess how much. Okay, so this was about $15 a can.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, that's a lot. But that's definitely. What is that, a 20?
Kevin Rose
What is a 20 ounces? Yeah, 20 ounces more than 16. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Okay, so how much is one?
Kevin Rose
What would you say this one is? You can age it like wine.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, 25 bucks a bottle.
Kevin Rose
350. $350 for one glass of.
Alex Albrecht
One glass of this?
Kevin Rose
12 ounces or bottle of this?
Alex Albrecht
What the fuck?
Kevin Rose
Dude, it's the number one beer in the world. And they're hand numbered. They only make like 1000 of them.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, I'm. Now I'm concerned.
Kevin Rose
Yikes.
Alex Albrecht
Dude, that is crazy.
Kevin Rose
The thing is, I was talking to my accountant. I think we can write this off, actually.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, you. A thousand percent. That is 1,000%, because shake your head, you're not an accountant.
Kevin Rose
Part of the show.
Alex Albrecht
There's no way this is what we do.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. First. Yeah, we've had beer sponsors.
Alex Albrecht
That's True. It's true.
Kevin Rose
Who sponsored us with beer wise? We had Michelob. Did we?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Remember we went to Sam Adams.
Alex Albrecht
We had Sam Adams.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
But Michelob was the one.
Kevin Rose
Did Heineken do it one time?
Alex Albrecht
I don't think Heineken had, but I could be wrong about that. But Michelob did because we went to. That's when we went and did the live show in St. Louis, remember?
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
And we went to their, like, craft beer thing where they make. All right. Craft beer.
Kevin Rose
And that was fun. Actually, I don't know. Michelob Ultra.
Alex Albrecht
It was Michelob.
Kevin Rose
Because I have.
Alex Albrecht
I have a Michelob neon light. Oh, from one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
All right. So I've got some new gear to show off.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
This is. You know, we've been talking about Android phones. We've talked about all kinds of stuff on the phone recently. I thought it would be fun that as stuff comes out, if we can get people to like, either send us stuff or just give our hot take on, like, something fun. The new iPhones came out. Yes, I got the new. I didn't go for the, like, crazy plus and you did.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, that's the iPhone Pro Max. No, that's desert. Desert. It's the new color.
Kevin Rose
I had to change color. So I like. Mine's a little smaller.
Alex Albrecht
Wait.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
What is that?
Kevin Rose
So this is the Max, not the Pro Max or the Plus. It's like it doesn't have the three cameras. Cause I don't need the other camera. But it's.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, so you got the. Ooh, we're both iPhone 16. What?
Kevin Rose
We're trying to send each other our contact info.
Alex Albrecht
We have our contact info.
Kevin Rose
I know, but it tried to send them. That's amazing. That's fine. Dude, that's me. That was me at the beach. So it's kind of. But you see how it's a little bit lighter, a little smaller. How do you feel about that?
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
I mean, so I didn't go with this one because it felt like it was a little too big.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, it's a little lighter. I mean, dude, that looks close. They're exactly the same size. I mean, this one's a tad lighter for sure.
Kevin Rose
So try this. This is an add on. I just got.
Alex Albrecht
How do you do it?
Kevin Rose
So that is a magnet add on. When you don't do a case and it snaps into the back, it gives you a little holdsies.
Alex Albrecht
I never understood how the holdsies things work.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So. Well, these are magnet holdsies.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
Isn't that cool?
Alex Albrecht
Magnet holds these and so this one.
Kevin Rose
I found on Amazon. That one's made by Anker, you know, the brand anchor.
Alex Albrecht
It's pretty cool, actually. It's kind of cool too, because you.
Kevin Rose
Use a little stand. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, dude. Yeah.
Kevin Rose
So when you're on a plane or something. Yeah. I don't know. I thought this was, like, if you're not gonna do a case.
Alex Albrecht
Which I knocked. So. My iPhone 15.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
I had no case the entire time.
Kevin Rose
And you didn't scrape it or break it or anything?
Alex Albrecht
No, I just sent it back.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, I got the free replacement stuff. I think this is good.
Alex Albrecht
That feels nice.
Kevin Rose
It feels really good.
Alex Albrecht
Anyway, so it feels like what? I mean, I guess I never thought it was a power thing. Although. Dude, have you done this? So I saw this the other day and I was like, oh, no, thank you. Thank you. So, like, check out your pinkies. So this pinky scoops up and it's the pinky for me.
Kevin Rose
Which one? You hold your phone with the pinky.
Alex Albrecht
That I rest on my phone on.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. I don't think I have a difference.
Alex Albrecht
No.
Kevin Rose
So one. So one has been bent up. I heard about that a little bit.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. Just because I constantly, like. And then it's also like, that's the place where, like, I get sore when I'm like, oh, God, it's like, too much. I can't. Fucked up.
Kevin Rose
People are getting arthritis and shit. In that bottom pinky, the one where you see the hole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. That's the thing. I think the Anker one's a little cleaner.
Alex Albrecht
100%.
Kevin Rose
Anker made such great shit. Do you have other chargers and everything?
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Oh, they're the best.
Alex Albrecht
I'll say. The wireless charging stuff on the iPhones has really been like, oh, my God, this is so crazy. Like, I literally. And do you do the thing where sideways at night. Yeah, it's so great.
Kevin Rose
So good.
Alex Albrecht
How did it take that long for them to do that?
Kevin Rose
It's been around for about two years now.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. But it took long.
Kevin Rose
So I've got some more gifts for you.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, shit.
Kevin Rose
We talked about getting you some Crocs because if we can switch back to the old episode. I had some camo Crocs and I thought you had never had Crocs.
Alex Albrecht
I have never had Crocs. Oh, my God, Kevin, thank you so much.
Kevin Rose
Little Amazon prime gift.
Alex Albrecht
So how do I get the croc out?
Kevin Rose
Get the. Get the little thing out there. See if they fit. You said 10?
Alex Albrecht
Yep.
Kevin Rose
Yep. Okay. Do you like the Camo.
Alex Albrecht
I like the camo.
Kevin Rose
It's a good supermo, right? Now feel how comfortable these are. Here we go.
Alex Albrecht
These are my first. Now what do you do?
Kevin Rose
Strap up. Restraint. It's your choice. You can start with it up.
Alex Albrecht
Start with it up. Okay.
Kevin Rose
Just go in once. You get used to Crocs though, dude.
Alex Albrecht
Whoa.
Kevin Rose
It's kind of nice.
Alex Albrecht
That is so light.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, those look pretty dull looking.
Alex Albrecht
Speaking of which, Snake eyes.
Kevin Rose
Snake eyes. You never know what's behind the mask.
Alex Albrecht
Do you have a cut? Yeah, I don't want to hurt.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, don't break the nice Crocs. So that was one little gadget and then the last one.
Alex Albrecht
Bro, it's like Christmas.
Kevin Rose
No, this is not for you. But the last one.
Alex Albrecht
I'm going to take your things home.
Kevin Rose
This is the remarkable tablet. The new one.
Alex Albrecht
What's a remarkable tablet?
Kevin Rose
So this is a tablet just for note taking.
Alex Albrecht
I see why these are used by prisoners. Are they because they're so easy? Isn't that what they said? That like, she's free.
Kevin Rose
Why would prisoners care if these.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God, dude, these feel great.
Kevin Rose
They're good, right?
Alex Albrecht
Holy schnikes, dude.
Kevin Rose
Try this though. This is the new remarkable tablet. Okay, so you're left handed.
Alex Albrecht
So. Kevin, so just write some shit. What have you been feeling about your mother?
Kevin Rose
Look how responsive that is, though. Oh, wow.
Alex Albrecht
That's crazy.
Kevin Rose
Like just do a quick stroke. Isn't that crazy? That E ink display. And then hit this. You can go color. So just tap on the. Well, that's the. Gets rid of the navigation.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
Tap on that. And then you can be like, I want. So now this is a color. The first color E ink display. Or you can do a highlight. Highlight is probably a better way to do it. Hit that button there and then just highlight some over something. Like all the way. There you go. And then go. And it'll turn.
Alex Albrecht
Whoa, dude, this is creepy.
Kevin Rose
And then it'll do text to.
Alex Albrecht
Whoa.
Kevin Rose
Text to Text to actual text. So you can text to actual text. Holy shit. So handwriting. Yes, Handwriting to text.
Alex Albrecht
How do I do that?
Kevin Rose
I don't know yet.
Alex Albrecht
Okay, I just got it.
Kevin Rose
But it's pretty dope.
Alex Albrecht
Dude, this is.
Kevin Rose
And this all syncs to the cloud and goes back to your notes and you can search them and all kinds of shit.
Alex Albrecht
Oh my God, bro, this is crazy.
Kevin Rose
Isn't that kind of sweet? So no distractions? Not like, you know, like an iPad or anything like that. So you're not like worried about other stuff and it's just simple Note taking.
Alex Albrecht
Can you. How do I.
Kevin Rose
You can piss. Yeah, it's a little delayed, bro.
Alex Albrecht
I like this, though.
Kevin Rose
Pretty sweet, huh?
Alex Albrecht
This is amazing. So. Okay. All right. Okay. Black.
Kevin Rose
So it's just like a. Think of it as like a distractionless note taking pad.
Alex Albrecht
Wow. That's like crazy.
Kevin Rose
They have like, charcoal. They have the whole thing so people are actually using it for like high def drawings.
Alex Albrecht
And it's cool. It's got that, like pressure sensitivity.
Kevin Rose
Pressure sensitive. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
That's cool. My two squiggles look like a Simpsons character.
Kevin Rose
It does, actually. Isn't that cool?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
So anyway, just like something to play around with.
Alex Albrecht
That's amazing, bro.
Kevin Rose
The nice thing about these, you can have these in meetings and no one thinks you're dicking around on your iPad. Because if you bring an iPad to. What are you doing? You know?
Alex Albrecht
So who makes this remarkable? So, like, that's their thing. They're like, forget.
Kevin Rose
There's like. We're just doing like clean, you know, really responsive E ink display, note taking. And that's kind of it.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, this is really cool. Plus, the pen feels really nice.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, it's good. This is the brand new one that just came out. Just hit the market like, I don't know, maybe like a week ago.
Alex Albrecht
Dude, this is rad. Thanks for getting me this.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, no problem. Of course. Yeah, let's try.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, damn it.
Kevin Rose
But it's fun just to try this stuff, you know, it's like I always have to be playing with the latest stuff if you're looking to make investments in the space and.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah, well, yeah, you gotta know what's what. Like, what's out there. You know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
Speaking of which, we gotta go to ces.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yes. Ces.
Kevin Rose
So we should do a live show out of ces. I mean, I know it's short notice, I guess. It's not that short. It's not to January, so we could. That'd be kind of fun.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. But we also, like. Do you remember we used to do stuff where we would just be like, hey, we're both gonna be at this place. We need to get an episode in the can. Like, we shot in the lobby of that hotel in Austin.
Kevin Rose
That's what I'm thinking. Like, we find like, just like a shitty bar, we call them up and we're like, hey, is it okay if we like, cause raid your bar.
Alex Albrecht
A bunch of those people.
Kevin Rose
I know, I know, I know places we could go.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
It's like a place that'll hold like 150 people. 200 people or whatever. We'll just have, like. If you're in ces, here's the deal. Email us. Fansignation show if you're going to ces. Yeah, that would really help, actually, because then we can actually say, okay, this is the interest level. And if it's like, a couple hundred people, let's just do a fun little thing.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, for sure.
Kevin Rose
Dude, Will Harlem wants to go out too. We'll have fun. We'll just be looking at a bunch of shit.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God.
Kevin Rose
And if you're a vendor.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. And you want us to come show us some shit.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, we'd love to come check out your shit. So, like, hit us up as well.
Alex Albrecht
This is intense.
Kevin Rose
It's intense. It is intense.
Alex Albrecht
Like, that's. That is. I think that's a beer you split.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Like, I don't know if I could have, like, a ton of that.
Kevin Rose
I'm trying to see what percentage it is because it's definitely not low.
Alex Albrecht
It really. 10 plus, probably. 10 plus. Yeah. But it definitely feels like the best way to describe it is, like, it's a really dry, like, unsweet port.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. But you do get the chocolate and the walnuts and all that coming out of it. And, yeah, it's like, you can definitely get a hint of all that. It doesn't say the ABV, but I'm sure ChatGPT would.
Alex Albrecht
ChatGPT knows the ABT, bro. My feet feel fantastic, don't they? Can I have a little bit more of that $500,000 wine?
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Or booze.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. There you go.
Alex Albrecht
Thank you.
Kevin Rose
This is like.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah.
Kevin Rose
I mean, it's like.
Alex Albrecht
You can have the rest. You can have the rest.
Kevin Rose
All right, let's get into some stories.
Alex Albrecht
Yes. Yes. Wait, before we do. Before we do a little housekeeping. So we are. This is. This is all new. We are trying things that we didn't have opportunities to do when we were doing this the first time. One of those was to potentially clipify the shows and have some of those clips live next to the live show or next to the full show on our YouTube channel. We hear you. We.
Kevin Rose
We hear a few people. We didn't heard everyone yet.
Alex Albrecht
We hear the few people. And I totally get it, because I was like, yeah, it kind of feels like. Cause it was even showing me a lot of this stuff, and I was like, well, I've seen the episode, but blah, blah, blah. Anyway, long story short, we created a secondary channel for the clips. So if you want to see the clips, if you are like, oh, I've only got 10 minutes, the new show just came out, I want to hit a clip. Then you want to go to dignation. What's the.
Kevin Rose
Our main one is YouTube. Let's start with the main one.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
So if you go to YouTube.com dignation you will always get the 4k high def video there. You can subscribe, like do all the things the notifications, turn those all on because that will only be now when you get hit with the full episode.
Alex Albrecht
Episodes.
Kevin Rose
Now we do clips.
Alex Albrecht
We do clips.
Kevin Rose
TikTok Instagram.
Alex Albrecht
Yep.
Kevin Rose
Clips. Short YouTube shorts. YouTube shorts which are going to be now at a new URL which is. It's IGnation Highlights. That's the YouTube account.
Alex Albrecht
Dignation Highlights. And check the show notes because it'll be down there.
Kevin Rose
Slash dignation Highlights. Highlights long. Nope, didn't work. Add dignation highlights. Add dignation highlights. Oh, there it is. Hey, look at that. Subscribe to it. There we go.
Alex Albrecht
Perfecto.
Kevin Rose
Okay, so.
Alex Albrecht
So anyway, so long story short, we are over the next, however long we're going to be, keep trying different things. So you may start seeing stuff and we do want to hear your feedback. So we are hearing what you're throwing down and that's all I have to say about that.
Kevin Rose
No, it's good because I think there's two things we're trying to accomplish. One, we want these individual little clips to see a wider audience so we can pull in more people, obviously. And then two, if you liked a really funny little segment, you're like, oh, my friend would laugh at this. It gives you a place to go share these things for them around. And the same thing with the ignation on Instagram and Same URL for TikTok as well.
Alex Albrecht
It's so funny to see the stuff sort of cut up because it's just, we would always just put the thing out into the ether and be like, that's the only place the whole episode.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Back in the day.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. So it's been, it's been pretty cool. Okay. Not a story.
Kevin Rose
Okay.
Alex Albrecht
But a story. I got in to Waymo, the self driving one. The autonomous taxi service.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. What'd you think?
Alex Albrecht
Holy hell, dude. It is amazing.
Kevin Rose
Okay, so you signed up for the app. So in la.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
You can download the actual Waymo app itself, which is a Google product.
Alex Albrecht
So it's la. San Francisco and Phoenix are the three places that it is now. Yeah, I started to see them around just la and I was like, oh, those are those Waymo cards. Like, those are the little. Yeah, they got the like lidar spinning sensor on the front.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. And I like everything tech. So I was like, I want to at some point try this and see how this services. And I saw people literally getting dropped off next to my house. And so I was like, okay, I'm in the service area, right. And so I was at a buddy of mine's house last week and I was saying like, oh, yeah, the way mo, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, oh, I have an invite code. Cause I was on the waitlist. And he was like, I have an invite code. And I was like, oh, that's great. So he invited me. And then Heather and I had a cocktail party at the Edmond, which is on like Wilton and Melrose. It's like a cool old bar. And he was the guy that invited us to the cocktail party. So I was like, oh, dude, this is great. Let's take a Waymo. And so I ordered it, the thing drives up, I unlock it from the app, get in. It's like, do you remember the first time we got into a virgin America plane?
Kevin Rose
Yeah. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
And everything just felt like super like chef's kiss.
Kevin Rose
It was like they had redone, they rethought the whole thing. The whole thing, the whole experience. Soup to nuts.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. Like you just walked in and you were like, I feel good. Yeah, same thing. We sit down, it's like, hello, Alex. The voice to speech is not that great with names.
Kevin Rose
Which is weird because it's like easy to do these days.
Alex Albrecht
Now I'm more concerned that you're not a good driver if you can't say my name. Well, hello, Alex. Anyway, but then like we get in, we barely put our seatbelts on. I hit start ride, you're looking. It's like, boo, boo, boo boo. There's like all this like zen music going. It's like, welcome to Waymo. For your safety, please buckle up. We hope you enjoy your ride. I mean, it's literally like being on the monorail at Disney. You know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
And then it cut on to Melrose and I was like, I don't even know if I would have made that turn.
Kevin Rose
Right.
Alex Albrecht
So good. Oh, dude, it flies.
Kevin Rose
I know. I was in San Francisco and I use it for the first time and I get in it and it was the same thing where I shut the door and I'm like, okay. And if you've ever turned on self driving mode to Tesla. Oh, bro, it's like it's self driving mode because it doesn't know whether to make certain things. You're like, Jesus Christ. Like sometimes it makes things where you almost die.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
This thing got really aggressive, really fast, but in a smart way.
Alex Albrecht
100%.
Kevin Rose
I never felt like I was going to die, but I was a little scared.
Alex Albrecht
Interesting. So I thought Heather was going to be scared.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Because she says I'm going to be scared when we do this. Right. Neither of us were scared. We loved it.
Kevin Rose
We were also hammered.
Alex Albrecht
No, no, no. On the way there.
Kevin Rose
Oh, you said after the cocktail party.
Alex Albrecht
No, we went there and back.
Kevin Rose
Then you drove back in, bro.
Alex Albrecht
It was great. Yeah, Waymo went great and I sent my Tesla and then we just drove ourselves back. You know, logistically, it's hammered.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
It's so great. Dude. I'm like, I was, I was really, I was blown away. The thing that sucks is it doesn't come all the way up here.
Kevin Rose
Yes. Yeah, I know.
Alex Albrecht
And I literally, I've considered taking it.
Kevin Rose
To like Santa Monica.
Alex Albrecht
Edge of Santa Monica.
Kevin Rose
Just getting an Uber. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Popping over.
Kevin Rose
I thought about that too.
Alex Albrecht
But also it doesn't go on the freeway. So I was like, oh, it's gonna take a while to get. Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
So I mean, here's the. So Uber is announcing like probably by the time this podcast comes out, they have a new prototype for a two person taxi. Have you seen this thing?
Alex Albrecht
You mean a motorcycle?
Kevin Rose
Sorry, not Uber, A Tesla.
Alex Albrecht
The tubers and taxi.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
How is that?
Kevin Rose
Oh, they've got this new little two person Tesla that was like somebody saw a picture of or got a picture of it. Tesla Taxi. So they have this Taxi day event coming out.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, October 10th, I think they have an event.
Kevin Rose
It's pretty soon, but I thought it.
Alex Albrecht
Was because they're taking back all the old Model 3s and Model Y's. Like you can't sell your buyer.
Kevin Rose
So they talked about that. But they also found this like weird looking like robo thing that's been going around town. See this yellow shaped Tesla car?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And it's like they don't know what these are. And they're assuming that these are the prototypes for the Tesla. Little micro taxis.
Alex Albrecht
I mean it would make sense because the bottom line is like, look, I really enjoy my Tesla. I've enjoyed all my Teslas. It feels weird to me that they were removing things like the lidar or the radar. They had certain things that they were removing because they were like, oh, we'll just fix it in software with the Cameras. I was like, I wouldn't trust that stuff. The fact that that thing that the Waymo looks like it's got too many sensors, I'm like, now that I trust because you don't put that stuff on there if it's not doing anything.
Kevin Rose
I'd much rather them scale back over time 100%, you know what I mean? Where you're like, oh, this thing's ugly, but it's safe. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then like they take one sensor off and you're like, okay. After millions of miles, they realize they didn't even get.
Alex Albrecht
You can remove that one sensor. Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
And here's. Look at this prototype, though. That looks kind of dope if that's the actual Tesla little taxi. That's amazing.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, you might be able to.
Kevin Rose
Buy these though, and then have them go to work for you.
Alex Albrecht
So that's the thing that they always said that they suggest or that they said about the Teslas was that like when self driving comes in, you'll be able to have your Tesla work as an Uber driver for you.
Kevin Rose
Which is crazy.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, crazy. But like, I don't do. I do. I've started to kind of get to this place. Maybe it's just me where I just don't believe anything that Tesla says anymore because I've so believed them. And then, oh, it's late. Oh, it's not here. Oh, it never happened. You know what I mean? Like, it just. I'm starting to go, like, I'm not going to listen to the presentation hype. I'm going to wait until I see the.
Kevin Rose
It's fair. And it's really hard because, like, I've been in this situation before and probably most recently and the biggest mistake was when I was at Proof doing the NFT stuff where you have all these really exciting ideas.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And you can't wait to tell the world about them. Right. I mean, this is. How many broken promises have we had from Tesla? Like a ton, right?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Like things that they said they were going to launch, like the new roadster that's now like five years later or whatever's that idea. But there's all these things where, you know, you get excited about the possibility and then the market changes, dynamics change. You think something's going in a different way and you scrap plans. But consumers get upset. Right. And it's like, that's a hard place to be. But it seems like we're now at least a month or two away from. Well, a month away from whatever Their first initial offering is gonna be for this.
Alex Albrecht
I'm interested to see. I just always assumed, because they were saying that, like, they were building their taxi fleet with Model Threes and Model Y's. Cause that's why you couldn't, like, buy your lease. Like, you could lease a Model 3 and a Model Y, but you cannot buy it. You have to give it back.
Kevin Rose
Oh, you mean at the end?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Oh, because they wanted to accumulate more.
Alex Albrecht
That's because they were going to. What they said was, we're doing this so that they could build their fleet.
Kevin Rose
Oh, crazy.
Alex Albrecht
Older used Model Y's and Model Threes.
Kevin Rose
That makes sense.
Alex Albrecht
It makes sense, but not if you make your own little, like, new non model three. I mean, maybe they're using, you know, GameCube guts. Maybe they're, like, taking out the GameCube. You know what I mean? But maybe it's like, that could be like, oh, that's the internals. You know, like, we take the engines, we take the battery.
Kevin Rose
Oh, interesting.
Alex Albrecht
You know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
Like, repurposing a lot of the old.
Alex Albrecht
Tech from recycle the old cars and then add more tech. Because they're going to need more sensors for sure. I mean, like, cameras just aren't going to do it.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, well, I'm excited. We'll see. So far, so good with Waymo stuff, though. That is fun, bro.
Alex Albrecht
I'm just excited. I can't wait. It doesn't go over the canyons yet, so you can't go into the Valley with it.
Kevin Rose
This is like three to five years out and it's doing everything. You know, it's on the freeways. It's everywhere. Although you see that, like, people on the freeway are nuts in LA, especially late night. Oh, bro, they're going like 120 and they'll zoom past you and like these hardcore cutoffs.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
It's insane out here.
Alex Albrecht
La, baby. All right, anyway, so not a story.
Kevin Rose
But I'm glad it was a cool experience.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
All right, well, you got the first story then.
Alex Albrecht
Well, I mean, we kind of covered it a little bit about it, but yeah.
Kevin Rose
So the new Apple watch came out. This is the new one.
Alex Albrecht
This is the new one.
Kevin Rose
Oh, shit. You got the bear one. You want aluminum?
Alex Albrecht
Yes.
Kevin Rose
You want more weight?
Alex Albrecht
No, it's lighter.
Kevin Rose
No, this is the lightest one.
Alex Albrecht
No, look them up.
Kevin Rose
No, mine's aluminum, too.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, you got aluminum?
Kevin Rose
Yeah, I did. Sorry. I thought you guys confused the shit out of me.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, you went heavier.
Kevin Rose
What, you got stainless steel? Because it looks Stainless steel.
Alex Albrecht
No.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
This is aluminum.
Kevin Rose
Okay. I went with the polished black. Yeah. Here's the secret. Did you know? So you can use the actual. The old bands, the ultra bands on the new watch. So you get the cooler band skis.
Alex Albrecht
Gonna buy one of those.
Kevin Rose
They have some really cool ultra bands.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. Cause also, like, I got the one that has, like, the adjustable thing. I feel like one of those kids who, like, first learns how to tie their tie, and they have, like, this really fucking long little part of the tie that is what my watch. Look at this. Look how fucking I'm on the second thing.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, you're tucking a lot underneath there, bro.
Alex Albrecht
Look at this.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, well, they make smaller ones.
Alex Albrecht
I know. But I chose the small one. And this is the one that came. That's the small one, I think. I didn't choose the fucking monster dong. I wanted the one that was like.
Kevin Rose
It looks good, though, dude.
Alex Albrecht
It's great. I love it. I will say, too, I have the Snoopy thing. So Heather put this thing where, like, it's literally Snoopy, and then he goes to sleep, and then when you wake him up, he does another full animation. And I was like, bro, why is Snoopy the only one of these faces? Like, why. Why is there not faces from, like, Star wars and fucking, like, insert whatever I would buy.
Kevin Rose
I know.
Alex Albrecht
And I would pay so much. Like, it boggles my mind that Apple is not selling watch faces. Like, I would pay so much money to have a cool new watch face. And this is awesome. It's just like. I mean, it's basically like a screensaver. Like, it just rotates through all these different animations.
Kevin Rose
I mean, clearly they've done some of these deals, so there's probably more in the pipeline.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, I hope.
Kevin Rose
But at the same time, it's like, that's not, like, the surrounding air for them. Watch face sales.
Alex Albrecht
No, I know. I know they're not. Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Because right now, they don't even have a way to sell watch faces.
Alex Albrecht
No, I know.
Kevin Rose
App store. So they would have to build all the infrastructure to do that. And they're like, okay.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
It's just the whole thing anyway. That's cool.
Alex Albrecht
So the watches are great.
Kevin Rose
The watches are great. I do, like, the new hearing test. They're turning the AirPods now into, like, hearing aids for people, which is kind of cool.
Alex Albrecht
All the medical stuff that they're doing has been really fantastic. I mean, like, you know, although this one doesn't have the blood ox because of the patent issue, but yeah.
Kevin Rose
All right, so we're fans. I'm now off Android. So we are back.
Alex Albrecht
Are you off Android or.
Kevin Rose
I am.
Alex Albrecht
You just dipped in to dip in.
Kevin Rose
And then I just, like. I just can't deal with the bubble stuff and it's.
Alex Albrecht
Dude, the ecosystem is just so strong. I tried, Remember, I tried the. I think we talked about this last time. I tried the Windows phone for a hot second and it just also.
Kevin Rose
Just the portability of your data between desktop and mobile is so huge because, like, I log in and my photos are right there. One I took a second ago on my iPhone.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Instantly pops up my desktop, my imessage perfectly built in and like, it.
Alex Albrecht
Wait, did I tell you the story? Did we talk about this on one of these. We're starting to have so many of these new episodes that I forget if I brought up the story, but did I tell you that we went to Italy and Heather left her phone?
Kevin Rose
No.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah. So Heather and I, in early May, like end of April, early May, we went to Serbia for five days.
Kevin Rose
Tell me about the horrible beef you had out there.
Alex Albrecht
The horrible beef. Not with another person.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, it's just the actual meat.
Alex Albrecht
Anyway, Lovely people. So we're standing in the. Like, we take. We take the cab to. Or take the Uber to. Actually, it was an alto, now that I think about all the different services. But anyway, Heather plugs her phone in because they have all the, like, chargers, and she's like, well, I'm about to get on a, you know, international flight.
Kevin Rose
I should probably get her.
Alex Albrecht
No, she put it into the seat pocket and in my mind I saw her do it and I went, she's going to fucking forget that phone. Yeah, Like, I just. And I was like, that's cool. Get there. And of course, you know, you're kind of rushing to get out of. Like, you're just like, let's get in there because we want to check in. Blah, blah, blah. We get our tickets. Or like, we check in, we get up to the line. We're literally in line at the security. And Heather goes, oh, God. Oh, no. And I go, what? What? And she goes, I don't have my phone. And it was like, what could we possibly do? You know what I mean? Like, and it was like a Sunday, so nobody is there at support. Like, it was just like, what is even happening? Anyway, long hairy dog story. Later, we got it to my buddy's. My buddy was house sitting. We got it to him. He had it in his hand before we took off to go to Serbia. So we're like, he's got it. Yeah, that check one. Then we were like, oh, maybe we should have him ship it to Rome. Don't. No.
Kevin Rose
Bad idea, right?
Alex Albrecht
Cost us $500, got stuck in customs.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, yeah, you don't get it for.
Alex Albrecht
Like a week, by the way. She picked it up in Rome the night before we flew home. But the saving grace was she brought her a laptop. And so at the end of the night, she could sit down, she could go through our imessages, she could text people. And it was like, all because of the ecosystem. And to be fair, we had such a better time that she didn't have a phone because she wasn't on her phone. Yeah, I mean, it was great. And anytime she wanted to take a picture, she was just like, alex, take a picture of that. And I'd be like, oh, okay.
Kevin Rose
Did you see the little lockbox they have now with the little timer on it where you can put your phone in there and it won't open it up for a certain amount of time? Ugh, that's so good. I just got pitched that I want to try it. Yeah. I mean, that is the lock in of all things Apple, which, you know, it is what it is. They still make great shit. I'm not. I'm not going to do that soon.
Alex Albrecht
All right, speaking of smooth, back to.
Kevin Rose
Are you back to the beer?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
All right, so let's talk about a story that I have on something called Notebook LM. Have you seen this?
Alex Albrecht
No. Okay, so Notebook LM, like as in AIs LLM.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So this is basically a new product. It's an experimental product from Google.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
And they allow you to do. It's powered by Gemini 1.5 Pro. And you can dump different things in here. Okay. Like note taking. You could do all different types of stuff and you can give it instructions and kind of query your own data. Right. Which some of this exists already with like Claude and other stuff like that. There's some really interesting features. One in particular that blew me away. I want you to hear this podcast. Listen to this. It's a podcast talking about. Welcome back, everyone, for another deep dive. Today we're going to. We're going to be in 1897 London.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah.
Kevin Rose
And we're going to be looking at queer competitions.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, and when I say queer, I don't mean.
Kevin Rose
All right, like we think of it today, but queer as in unusual.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, unusual or peculiar. Yeah, peculiar.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. And this is. This comes from an article from the Strand magazine.
Alex Albrecht
Yes, the Strand magazine.
Kevin Rose
Which tell us A little bit about.
Alex Albrecht
That because some people might not be familiar with this.
Kevin Rose
Okay.
Alex Albrecht
Magazine. Yeah. So it was happening monthly, hugely popular.
Kevin Rose
Usually popular monthly magazine. Victorian England, Victoria England. Sort of compare it to something like this trend magazine, you know, like a long time ago today or something. It was very, very. Okay, so.
Alex Albrecht
Because I did see some headlines about.
Kevin Rose
Somebody creating podcasts, took just an article from the Strand magazine from the 1800s and said, Make a podcast out of this. And it made that. Bro, dude, how crazy is that?
Alex Albrecht
That's fucked up.
Kevin Rose
So I've been messing around with it. I did something where I said, my buddy.
Alex Albrecht
You did something I shouldn't have done?
Kevin Rose
No, my buddy sent me. Chris Sacca sent me his. His annual report around his venture fund. Yeah. This one's lowercase carbon, which is green fund. And it's like a 10 page report. I'm like, oh, this is freaking long, you know? And so I dump it in and I'm like, give this back to me in like the voice of Bill Burr in jokes form. And it's like, you motherfuckers. This guy thinks he knows he's good at investing. It's just like, give it to me back as, like, this is the way to consume a dry. A really dry fragrance. Exactly. So just the thing about this is like, think about. There's kind of like this thing where you think, okay, sometimes a TLDR is good for me. Like, where I'm like, here's a 20 page document. Give me the TLDR.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And you can read the bullets and you're done. But sometimes I actually want to read or listen to the full story.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And the options we have right now are basically like, some sites have this AI button where you hit play and it's like, welcome to the New York Times Edition 12. You know, it just reads it. It's like today we were walking down the street and, you know, it's like a little choppy. This is like taking that but also understanding what would make a more concise version of it in podcast form.
Alex Albrecht
Yep.
Kevin Rose
Throwing a couple co hosts in there.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Making the natural banter between the two. Chemistry. Faked chemistry.
Alex Albrecht
Fake chemistry.
Kevin Rose
And then putting out a podcast, man.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, it's literally, it's. It's finally coming from my job.
Kevin Rose
Yes. Yes. There is a chance we don't have to do this in, like six months.
Alex Albrecht
Actually, that we should do. That would be so cool if we actually put out an episode that, like, we didn't actually do.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Like, it was just the two of us sitting on the couch. Yeah. The whole nine yards. Same. Looked exactly the same, like. And it was completely generated by AI.
Kevin Rose
We should say take. We'll take an old episode, like one of our more popular ones, and we'll feed it and say, this is the template of how these guys banter.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Here are the 10 things I want you to talk about today that are more modern stuff and make an episode out of them 100% and see what happens. You know, they do.
Alex Albrecht
That would. So, I mean. Yeah, it's crazy. So I was at that cocktail party I went to, was like, this networking thing, and I was talking to this guy, and he was like, you know, I didn't find out until late in life that I'm dyslexic. And he said, the three things that have completely changed my life as someone who now knows that I'm dyslexic are audiobooks. He was like, I consume three books. Like, every. Every three days I'll consume a new book. He's like, I love it. And he's like. And I would read, but I would always. It was not enjoyable.
Kevin Rose
It was like a struggle. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Which I totally empathize with. I feel that way about reading. And he goes, one of the other ones, I can't remember what the third one was, but the second one was ChatGPT. He was like, what I do is when I have an email that I have to write, I'll come up with the bullet points of what it is that the information I want to convey. And I'll say, hey, ChatGPT, I want you to create an email response. He'll put the original email that he's responding to. He's like, write it in a prose style. Here are the bullet points of what I want to get across in this email. And then he'll rewrite it to make it sound like him and all that stuff. And he has found that it's just completely changed his life because he can now no longer struggle with getting across the information he wants to get across in these communications.
Kevin Rose
Oh, it's huge.
Alex Albrecht
It's crazy.
Kevin Rose
It's insane, because I use a couple different email apps. One of them is Superhuman. And Superhuman has this built in now where it will crawl all of the corpus of your entire email history and you can ask questions of your email in AI form. So, like, check this out. It's like, I'm on my main email address here, right?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And I'll say, I go back to the main screen here, and I'll just be like, question mark. And I'll say, when is dignation? Right?
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
And then I hit enter there and then I'll search for that and then it crawls all of my different emails and will tell me if there's any. Dignation was mentioned in several emails. And then it shows you the sources. And then you can see here the dignation emails that you had about that. And then quickly jump in. So. But my buddy was like, My buddy was like, hey, do you remember when we were in Cabo three years ago, we had the great chef. I'm like, yeah, that was a fantastic. Watch this. What was the chef's name in Cabo and how can I get a hold of them? And it's like, these are the three emails. This is the chef's email address, blah, blah. It's like he didn't have to remember. Like, normally you'd be like, oh, how am I gonna find the chefs? Like, maybe Chef Cabo? Or like, oh, yeah, you know, it's like. And now it's just like so clean. But it also works on the compose side as well. So it gets to know how you respond and write emails over time so it can naturally get your default tone.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, that's great.
Kevin Rose
It's crazy, dude. It's so crazy.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. We're living in the future, dude.
Kevin Rose
I've got this crazy theory that's, that's about to happen.
Alex Albrecht
What?
Kevin Rose
So this is a prediction. It's early days, but like, I'll throw it out there. So here's what I think. One of the things I realized in using more Microsoft AI lately with Copilot is that Copilot is built in at the OS level, right? Yeah. And so I have a, I have a belief that whoever's closest to the metal, like closest to the cpu, like has control over the os, will control the AI overlord, kind of stack that rules that domain. Okay, okay. By default, right?
Alex Albrecht
Sure. So what's like web browsers? The built in web browsers. I mean, there was a reason why there was monopoly cases and all that.
Kevin Rose
Exactly. Because like pulled it in.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Like everybody used Microsoft Edge. Or was it Edge? It was. What was the one before Edge?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. If you hadn't said Edge.
Kevin Rose
People are yelling as Explorer. Internet Explorer.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Ie. Yeah. So IE was built into everything, Right. And so. But it was just one app. But this is like AI is built at the fundamental core level of understanding of the os. So for example, I haven't used Windows in a long time and I was like, hey, how do I find this one Setting. It launches me right to that setting and like. And calls out. So what you have to understand where this is going is that the OS will understand how to use every single option, every single application that you install. Wow. So imagine a world where you launch Adobe Premiere, Adobe Photoshop, whatever, that you're like, oh, man, I kind of know this app, but I kind of don't.
Alex Albrecht
Sure.
Kevin Rose
And you're like, hey, os, you know, cut me together a video, blah, blah, blah. And it understands how to do that because it knows every single option.
Alex Albrecht
The AI and the operating system is talking to the now AI in the software system.
Kevin Rose
Or maybe not even may not even have to have AI in the software system.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Because it understands how to use the app. Soup to nuts.
Alex Albrecht
Wow.
Kevin Rose
And so it's just going and doing.
Alex Albrecht
It on your own. Copilot is really a great name for that. Did you almost spill over?
Kevin Rose
Everybody's worried about.
Alex Albrecht
I was spilled all over myself.
Kevin Rose
But I'm saying, like, yeah, I think that's coming.
Alex Albrecht
No, I mean, I think, you know, well, look, I mean, when is Apple Intelligence going to be put into your. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's gonna come.
Kevin Rose
It's so true. But the Apple is like, I gotta give them cred in that. They're like, they're doing this more quarantined AI thing where they. Each app has its own.
Alex Albrecht
Microsoft literally was like, we're gonna record everything that your computer has ever done and have it on file in case you need it. And it was like, how do I turn that off?
Kevin Rose
Yeah, but I kind of feel like that's like, good thing. Like, there'll be areas for you to quarantine data, like, even on the new iPhone. Have you seen how you can do. What was that?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, watch this.
Kevin Rose
It's a secret area. Yeah, watch this.
Alex Albrecht
I don't use so much of the functionality of the iPhones, man. I feel like, so check this out.
Kevin Rose
So let's just say, like, I'll have an app here. Like, let's just say, oh, duolingo.
Alex Albrecht
What are you doing?
Kevin Rose
I'm doing Japanese. Hi.
Alex Albrecht
Hi.
Kevin Rose
Mizuto Alexan. I said water and Alex.
Alex Albrecht
Water and Alex.
Kevin Rose
Okay, so if we hit this right here, like Instagram, for example, I can say, require face id. And then now if I just go off to the side and don't show your. Like, I show your face, it will let you log into Instagram. Unless, you know, I have my face id.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, that's.
Kevin Rose
So if you just randomly pick up my phone, you're like, oh, What's Kevin up to on this? You can't get in.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, funny. Yeah, that's smart.
Kevin Rose
It's pretty sweet. And then you can also hide it.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah, Hidden one.
Kevin Rose
Then there's like a little hidden thing at the bottom here. It says hidden.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, that's great.
Kevin Rose
And then you have to be able to, like, do a face ID to get into those.
Alex Albrecht
Do you have anything in that folder?
Kevin Rose
Grinder.
Alex Albrecht
Just. Just great.
Kevin Rose
Exactly.
Alex Albrecht
I get that.
Kevin Rose
So, I don't know. Some cool updates. That's all I have on that front.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, no, I'm.
Kevin Rose
The podcasting stuff is crazy. We got to do an AI podcast at some point.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, even just to see.
Kevin Rose
Just for funsies. Like the first five minutes of the show or something.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, wait, so is Notebook LM available for everybody or is it like.
Kevin Rose
It's a good question. I know that it says experiment, says try it. I don't know. Yeah, they've opened it up. Yeah, you can do it right now.
Alex Albrecht
Cool.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
Alex Albrecht
Interesting. I might have to try that because I've been so. One of the things that I. Again, back to the a. The, you know, not, you know, reading is not my favorite thing in the world. Scripts.
Kevin Rose
Oh, script. Right. Screenplays.
Alex Albrecht
Man, I get so many screenplays and I'm like, oh, God, I gotta read that screenplay. Or, oh, God, I gotta check out that thing. Blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I just. I wish I could, like, have someone read this to me. Yeah.
Kevin Rose
But here's what's even cool.
Alex Albrecht
But you know what I mean? But, like, with the intention of the lines and you know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
Like, yeah, but here's what's even cooler. This is what I've been doing lately. Not on this, but more for VC deals.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Where you can say, okay, I'm going to drop in 20 full PDF screenplays of the hottest indie films in this genre into Notebook Outland, more into, you know, the Pro version of ChatGPT. And now I'm dropping a new one in. Give me your take. So does this have the chance to be a breakout?
Alex Albrecht
So I had actually two years ago, come up with this idea as a business pitch of going, what if I built this software that could do this and then licensed it to the studios as a first run? Because they'll have thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of scripts that they deliver, and they have interns or readers where they'll pay them 100 bucks a script or whatever, and they'll take notes and do all this stuff. And I was like, well, what if the first wave was something like this where it was an AI bot?
Kevin Rose
It's gonna be way better than Ninja because they have a corpus of data and knowledge to, to pull from when you get thousands of scripts in there.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. You could literally be like, read the. Here are the screenplays for every Best Picture winner and best Picture nominee for writing for the Oscars.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
And then just go, now I'm gonna give you 20 scripts that I just got submitted, Right? Which one of these? Like order them in order of quality. I mean, it's super fucked up when I say it that way. But like.
Kevin Rose
No, but dude. So I just did this. So what I did is I created, I went into Google, AI Gemini Studio, which is a different thing you probably haven't seen. You kind of have to. It's like more for the developer side, but it's very like text based. Anyone can hack on it. And I was like, okay, here are some news sources I'm going to give you. And I gave them live RSS feeds like a dump in real time news. Okay.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
So I gave them like 1,000 stories, right?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And I said, rank these on their potential to be novel, breakout, unique stories that would fit this Persona. And I define the Persona of the user as being a geek into these things, blah, blah, blah. And what's funny is like it said, okay, yes, Tesla's earnings, or sorry, not Tesla's, but like Nvidia's earnings. The fact that they had a massive quarter. Interesting, but not breakout story.
Alex Albrecht
Got it.
Kevin Rose
Because we scored it lower on that because it's not really. It's tech relevant but not tech indie slash niche. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
It doesn't get people excited.
Kevin Rose
Right.
Alex Albrecht
It's just, just good news in the tech space.
Kevin Rose
It's all the stuff we always wanted to do on Digg. And so like I'm like creating this custom little algorithm which is fucking awesome. It's fun, it's fun. It's really interesting stuff. Yeah, this is a fun time to be alive in the space of AI.
Alex Albrecht
Well, and also it's a fun time to be somebody who has coding experience or at least past sort of, you know, computer science experience, but hasn't had to code in so many years. Because that's what I've been really finding interesting is like the ability to kind of go in and do things with the sort of like coding brain, but not have to worry about the semantics of Java or C or C Sharp. Like all this stuff that it's like I haven't fucking Coded in so long. I don't want to start now.
Kevin Rose
The thing is, like, you don't even need to learn coding.
Alex Albrecht
I know. That's what I'm saying. Have you seen the. No code channels?
Kevin Rose
Have you seen Hot Dog City?
Alex Albrecht
I have not been to Hot Dog City.
Kevin Rose
Okay, so Hot Dog City. Watch this.
Alex Albrecht
Hot Dog City. Oh, my God. Pereira. Hot Dog City.
Kevin Rose
All AI.
Alex Albrecht
All right.
Kevin Rose
I have to show you how you.
Alex Albrecht
Can go from something that sounds like this. Look at the downtown, the buildings are made of meat. To this. Look at the downtown, the buildings are made of meat. Look at the filthy ground appear. People all in the street, but they're not people. They're actually probably.
Kevin Rose
What you can sing.
Alex Albrecht
Into it to hit Broadway.
Kevin Rose
So you sing into it.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God, I'm so doing this.
Kevin Rose
And then takes off with whatever you want in a voice. This is part of Sumo's new Sumo.
Alex Albrecht
Sumo.
Kevin Rose
Oh.
Alex Albrecht
Cause those are the guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
I remember.
Alex Albrecht
I remember when, like, the Internet was killing, like, TikTok was just, like, for three months. All these, like, old school songs that people had discovered, like, from the, like, 40s or 20s.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, they make it sound like 40s or 20s songs.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
But with new lyrics.
Alex Albrecht
With new lyrics.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this. You sing into it, but.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, I'm definitely testing it.
Kevin Rose
Kevin and Gavin have a great show, AI for humans on YouTube, which they cover a lot of the AI tools.
Alex Albrecht
They're great.
Kevin Rose
Those guys are awesome. But anyway, fun stuff in the. In the.
Alex Albrecht
In the future of AI.
Kevin Rose
Future of AI. What's next?
Alex Albrecht
This is a. This is one of those articles where I was like, no, duh. But also like, oh, yeah, right, okay.
Kevin Rose
Oh, we talked about this recently.
Alex Albrecht
Hell, you and I on the show.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. We talked about if you did it in your balls.
Alex Albrecht
If you did it in your balls.
Kevin Rose
Like, we had the ball slapping. Remember we said if you was just like.
Alex Albrecht
I do remember that.
Kevin Rose
You said it would be one episode. I do. He's dead.
Alex Albrecht
He's dead. His balls exploded.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
So follow up story to the ball slapping experience. Health warning over face slap fighting. So this is from the BBC. So, you guys. I mean, we've all seen the now, like, the fucking face slap competitions.
Kevin Rose
Yes.
Alex Albrecht
Well, shocking. Nobody doctors are very worried about the effects of face slap fighting on the competitors. First off, a. Of course. Yeah. With everything that we know about CTE and head trauma and brain injuries, you're gonna start a sport where literally the job is to take as much face slap punishment as you can. I feel like this started in, like, Eastern Europe.
Kevin Rose
Yes.
Alex Albrecht
Because I used to see all those videos of people getting just rocked in the face by these giant dudes. So essentially, they sat this group of people, sat a bunch of doctors down. They were like, we're going to show you this stuff. We're going to show you some footage about this new Slap Fighting championship or whatever, because it's coming to the US So people are trying to make it be like the new ufc.
Kevin Rose
Right, right, right.
Alex Albrecht
And essentially, these doctors watched all these things, and they were like, dude, half of the people here are showing clear signs of concussion. And not only that, in 2021, a dude died.
Kevin Rose
No.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. So he got slapped in the face so hard that he fell unconscious, started bleeding out of the nose. They brought him to the hospital, found a brain bleed, and they were like, we think we got it under control. And within a week, he had passed away.
Kevin Rose
Ah, fuck.
Alex Albrecht
And it's just like, dude, what the fuck are we doing? Like, I see some of these videos and I'm like, this can't be good for anybody. And, like, at least with ufc, there's, like, skill involved. Like, with this, it's like. I mean, maybe there's skill in, like, how hard you hit the person, but.
Kevin Rose
Like, when you see them connect and it's the slow mo, it's like you can see their soul leave their body.
Alex Albrecht
100%.
Kevin Rose
It's not. There's nothing about this that says this is healthy for you.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. And it feels like one of those things where you're like. I mean, I guess it's like bare knuckle fighting. Like, I don't know. There's just something about it that's like. Really? We had, like. This is what somebody was like, I got a great idea. Let's slap each other as hard as we can in the face and see who survives.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, but UFC's the same way, dude.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, I guess it is. I guess it is.
Kevin Rose
But I agree with you that there's something about, with ufc, you're like, okay, is one guy gonna, like, there's always the chance that somebody just does, like, an armbar and somebody. And they tap out, right?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, 100%.
Kevin Rose
And you're like, oh, nobody really got hurt.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
And this, like, when, like, literally, it's whoever becomes unconscious first.
Alex Albrecht
It's literally the person that gets unconscious loses.
Kevin Rose
Right.
Alex Albrecht
And that's. And there's no. There's nothing. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's really. I mean, I get the appeal. It's like watching a car crash yeah, but also, it's like, I just can't imagine that there are people that are like, this is gonna be the next ufc, man.
Kevin Rose
Let's go. Yeah. I mean, why can't they just put a glove on or something? I feel like.
Alex Albrecht
Cause then it defeats the purpose. It's like the whole point is try to unconscious your friend.
Kevin Rose
Did you ever face slap with Mike Tyson?
Alex Albrecht
I wouldn't face slap with fucking anybody. I wouldn't face slap with your two kids.
Kevin Rose
People love that, by the way. Exciting.
Alex Albrecht
Fight him. That's my favorite thing. We should start selling shirts to just say, fight him.
Kevin Rose
That's what they used to do in front of all the Mike Tyson punch house, brother. Go fight.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
He's like, it's so good.
Alex Albrecht
Anyway, so don't join the fighting, slap fighting group if you want to not have your brain become mush.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, that always seemed like a bad idea.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
But. All right, moving on. Oh, boy. This is a hatty one, people.
Alex Albrecht
This is the story of the.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, this is the story where we picked it. Where we're like, huh? This could go off the rails a little bit.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, it will. It probably will.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So Puff Daddy, it's already off the rails. It seems that he's been having a lot of trouble lately.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, boy.
Kevin Rose
So he's obviously been indicted. 50 Cent has a documentary coming out about him.
Alex Albrecht
Yes, that's right. On Netflix.
Kevin Rose
And the weirdest thing, though, I mean, there's so many things. Dude. So, okay, so let's talk about just what we know to be true first. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Cause I don't. I haven't been following this all that well. Heather was like, if you need any. I've been deep diving down my rabbit hole.
Kevin Rose
Celebrity gossip. I hate it.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
I don't watch any of it. I despise it. I'm not into it. I, like. I used to have a girlfriend that was like. Would get the Us Weekly and shit, you know? And I'm just like, I hate celebrity gossip anyway. The. What he's been charged with. And yeah, granted, he hasn't been convicted.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
But he definitely did it. I mean, come on. I mean, I can understand if it was like, some shit where you're like, we'll get into why. Okay. Racketeering conspiracy.
Alex Albrecht
Okay. That's.
Kevin Rose
Which I didn't know what racketeering was.
Alex Albrecht
It's like a mob thing, right?
Kevin Rose
Yeah, I thought it was like a racquetball, but, like, it's. It's basically time. Racket, dishonest, and fraudulent business dealings, which is like a lot of people. It's like, we do that.
Alex Albrecht
That's like McDonald's.
Kevin Rose
Okay, so then we got. Please sponsor us. And then we have Love egg muffin. Yeah, wonderful, dude.
Alex Albrecht
Bacon, egg and cheese biscuit. Sausage. Egg and cheese biscuit.
Kevin Rose
And pretty soon we're gonna be sponsored by McDonald's. I would never take that sponsorship. You would.
Alex Albrecht
I have not had McDonald's or Taco Bell in two years.
Kevin Rose
Whoa. It's a big deal for you. It is. Okay.
Alex Albrecht
Sex trafficking all the time. Actually, I take that back. I did in Florence, but it's because it's a different type of food. Anyway, sex trafficking. Go on.
Kevin Rose
Which is horrible. I mean, sex trafficking is all jokes aside, probably the worst thing like that. It is the most disgusting thing. I think that almost an individual can do way more than prostitution. In my mind. It is prostitution.
Alex Albrecht
It's also one of those things that.
Kevin Rose
Like, against someone's will, I felt like.
Alex Albrecht
Only happened in movies.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
You know what I mean? And then when stuff pops up like.
Kevin Rose
This, you're like, I've seen people are actually doing this. I don't know why they do it. It's so confusing. Anyway, forced labor, which. What were they getting them to do? I don't know. Interstate transportation for prostitution, which federal. Gotta go out of state sometimes we got drug related crimes, which is like. Okay, that makes sense. Kidnapping.
Alex Albrecht
I thought that said kickboxing. No, I was like, wow, they're busting him for kickboxing, dude.
Kevin Rose
Arson.
Alex Albrecht
Arson, yeah.
Kevin Rose
So he burned some shit somewhere. Bribery, which like whatever goes along with all this whole genre.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
An obstruction of justice. That's more or less the same. Okay, so here's the thing though, dude. This is the thing that made me want to bring up story. Dude, they caught him. Okay? So I got a couple things. I got a buddy that told me that they had been to a house and heard some stories about all this shit.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
And I don't know if you'd be cool with me telling it. I'll kind of. I'll do it anonymously. But like, here's the deal. They found. This is. This is the news story. This is not my buddy.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
They found a thousand bottles of baby oil in his house.
Alex Albrecht
Too much baby oil, dude. Too much.
Kevin Rose
Thousand bottles.
Alex Albrecht
10 is too much. Dude, if you had 10, 10 is too much.
Kevin Rose
Like if they bust them with 10, you'd be like, oh, fuck, he's.
Alex Albrecht
10 bottles. A thousand bottles.
Kevin Rose
Like, that's not even something you could fit in your Costco cart.
Alex Albrecht
It's not even. You shouldn't even be able to fit that in Costco.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, it's like.
Alex Albrecht
But Costco doesn't even sell a thousand bottles of coffee.
Kevin Rose
And then his attorney came out and said he likes to buy in bulk.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God. Right? And then Costco came out and said, we don't sell it in that bulk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Oh, that's amazing.
Alex Albrecht
Oh. So now here's the thing that's. Did you hear that? I heard this today.
Kevin Rose
I heard it was laced with other shit.
Alex Albrecht
Oh.
Kevin Rose
So apparently they found some of the bottles that had mdma. Topical MDMA put into them.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, yeah.
Kevin Rose
I don't know if that's a rumor or what, but I heard that as well.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
So.
Alex Albrecht
But he. So his. His lawyer came out today, I think, and said that he's going to testify. And what people are speculating is that basically he's going to get up on the stand and like, name names of a bunch of other people and that he's kind of doing that to see if it'll help people back. Like, have the people back off or come to his aid.
Kevin Rose
It's crazy because, like, I saw a video with him and a young Justin Bieber. Oh, dude, the Justin Bieber thing I saw, apparently. I don't want to misquote this here, but I want to make sure it's backed up. We can check before we air this. But, like, There was a LeBron quote where he said, diddy parties are the best parties. Which, like, who knows, Maybe it was a race.
Alex Albrecht
There's a video of, like, Kevin Hart at one of his, like, nude parties. I don't even know. Well, the White party was like, the party to go to, right?
Kevin Rose
Was that like his annual party?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, that was his, like, annual party.
Kevin Rose
Apparently he had. So. So here's the story that I heard from a friend.
Alex Albrecht
Okay?
Kevin Rose
There's like.
Alex Albrecht
There was like.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So apparently a friend was at a place where there was a party that was about to happen.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
And they were like, cool. We're at so and so's house. I won't say whose person's house was. And his buddy goes, we gotta go. And he's like, what are you talking about? Like, we're at this, like. Like famous celebrities house. Like, what? He's like, we gotta go. And they got in the car and they drove out. It was like a long driveway to get out and a bunch of SUVs, like, he said it was like 10 plus SUVs pulled up and all These women and dudes got out and he's like, let's go back.
Alex Albrecht
It's like a great party.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, exactly. And he goes, you don't understand. If you are at that party, everyone is required to partake in all the things at that party. Otherwise you are not allowed to be there. Oh, boy. So you have to do all the things. And at this particular party, apparently there was a basketball court, like an indoor basketball court.
Alex Albrecht
And this is fine.
Kevin Rose
Which is fine. But in so far, you know where the stadium, like the stadium seating should be.
Alex Albrecht
Sure, sure.
Kevin Rose
It was like fold out beds, like one after another. So it was like 30 beds that would like fold out.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, boy.
Kevin Rose
Dude, what the fuck? Oh, boy. Yeah, and then you heard about. What was this guy's name? The dad.
Alex Albrecht
The dad?
Kevin Rose
No, the dad from the sitcom. You know what I'm talking about? No, no, not Cosby. Qbert. What was the guy's name? Qbert. What was the guy's name?
Alex Albrecht
What sitcom.
Kevin Rose
Okay.
Alex Albrecht
So many sitcoms have dads.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. You know, I'm not here. What is.
Alex Albrecht
You know I'm not here.
Kevin Rose
Hey, you know I'm not here. It was like he had that little nerd voice. He's like, dressed up. Urkel. Urkel's dad.
Alex Albrecht
Urkel's dad.
Kevin Rose
Urkel's.
Alex Albrecht
Or do you mean dad?
Kevin Rose
Do you mean the guy from TV show?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy from Carl Winslow. Yeah, Carl Winslow.
Kevin Rose
You didn't hear what happened?
Alex Albrecht
No. Dude, wasn't he the guy from.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
This dude Die Hard?
Kevin Rose
Yes.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Did you hear what happened about this Reginald Val Johnson?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, no, what happened?
Kevin Rose
So there is. Okay, so Reginald Jackson.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, Reginald Val Johnson.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So he denies attending Diddy's parties.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
But apparently somebody walked in on him at a Diddy party. And I don't even want to get into. On this show, but like, he was being taken advantage of. And like Diddy said, like, there's no. There's nothing more powerful than taking a man's dignity or something like that.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, God.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, I know, dude.
Alex Albrecht
No, fucking hell. There are people on this planet, man.
Kevin Rose
I mean, what's the craziest party that you've ever been to? What's the. Be honest, like, the craziest shit you've ever seen?
Alex Albrecht
Not even in the dictionary where those words, where all that stuff is. I mean, no baby oil. No baby oil. No way. I mean, like, everybody has. That's not. That's not what makes this weird.
Kevin Rose
Bottle.
Alex Albrecht
That's not what makes this weird. No, I mean, like, just like Parties. You know what I mean? Like college parties.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. You never went to any crazy? Crazy? No, I've been to a couple bachelor parties.
Alex Albrecht
You, like, grew up in Vegas?
Kevin Rose
No, but I didn't see anything really crazy there, to be honest. I wasn't into that whole clubbing scene. Weird shit. But like, I will say that I've been a couple of bachelor parties that were a little. Little nuts. But like. But nothing. Nothing to this extent. Like, Jesus.
Alex Albrecht
Like, I mean, my bachelor party was playing D and D in Big Bear.
Kevin Rose
That's a team. Team bachelor party.
Alex Albrecht
I agree. It was awesome.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Had a great time.
Kevin Rose
But I will say that like, a thousand bottles of baby oil does not do anything justice. No, Way too much.
Alex Albrecht
And by the way, nothing good happens with a thousand bottles of baby oil.
Kevin Rose
No, Nothing.
Alex Albrecht
I'm very interested to see how this shakes out. Yeah, I'm also just sort of one of these things where it's like watching a slow moving car crash.
Kevin Rose
But the crazy part though is like, had, okay, let's just say four years ago. And Diddy's like, hey, Alex, you run into him and he's like, dude, like, having a party tonight, bro. You go, right?
Alex Albrecht
1,000%. I'd be like, oh, my God, I have to see what's going on at one of these Diddy parties. Because I didn't know that anything other than just a celebrity party was going on. Do you know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
Right. But then the question is like, how do you get out once the door locks?
Alex Albrecht
I mean, Scrappy, you just gotta get scrappy, Kevin. You gotta claw. Come out. You just cloth the oil up. Yeah, actually, it's like, all right.
Kevin Rose
Did you ever see.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God, did you see the Watchmen HBO series? If you didn't, you gotta watch it.
Kevin Rose
Oh, you didn't see the full series. There's a lot of people. It's great.
Alex Albrecht
There's that guy who's like, really elastic and she's chasing him and he's running and he's in a full head to sew silver suit.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
He just grabs his baby oil and sprays it and they literally, like luge slides into a sewer grate.
Kevin Rose
I mean, that's probably why I would.
Alex Albrecht
Do that to get out of the party, 100%. I'd be like, yeah, because you have.
Kevin Rose
To act like you're there for the party 100%. Because when everyone's body oiling up, you know they're pouring on themselves. You're like, hey, yeah, this grain. And then he's like, sneak off and just out the window, just look out. Exactly.
Alex Albrecht
Just sliding down. Just sliding down the door.
Kevin Rose
I mean, I would not stay for that shit, obviously. That's horrible.
Alex Albrecht
Come on. But speaking of a good way to get yourself out of situations.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Have you ever heard of Joby?
Kevin Rose
No.
Alex Albrecht
Okay, so I had never heard of Joby. Heather and I were at the Grove, just getting like, lunch, Whatever.
Kevin Rose
Pineapple.
Alex Albrecht
We walked. No pineapples. Although we were at a Cheesecake Factory and they probably did have pineapple upside down cake. Pineapple upside down cake. So we. We walk over and on the grass of the grove, like the little, like, picnic area place, there was a giant, like, six copter taxi. Like, it was just like a luxury quad. Looked like a. Somebody had taken a drone and just blown it up. And there were five seats.
Kevin Rose
A quadcopter? Yeah, like a flying one.
Alex Albrecht
It was a flying taxi, dude. So Joby is this company that does flying taxis in la. And they were showing it off because they're finally launching it in Los Angeles and in New York. I fucking saw that thing, dude.
Kevin Rose
Did you ride in it?
Alex Albrecht
No, because it was just. They were just setting up. Today is the day where they were actually gonna have people come and sit in and all that stuff. But here's the thing. LAX to the Grove.
Kevin Rose
Oh, my God.
Alex Albrecht
LAX to downtown la, done. JFK to Manhattan. And it's like Uber. You literally. You'll get an app, you'll be able to schedule a ride.
Kevin Rose
Dude, I would. Kids in a heartbeat. Helicopters are too scary for me as.
Alex Albrecht
This is super safety.
Kevin Rose
Post Covid.
Alex Albrecht
It's super safety.
Kevin Rose
Super safety.
Alex Albrecht
They have, like, so many copters, so many blades. So many blades. Even if. Even if. Like three of the engines.
Kevin Rose
I felt like a super safety was like some certification I hadn't heard of.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, this has got.
Kevin Rose
Super safety.
Alex Albrecht
Is ntsb.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, exactly.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. No, dude, but how fucking cool is this?
Kevin Rose
Dude, I'm in. I've been wanting, like, a personal transport drone device for a long time.
Alex Albrecht
These guys make it. And not only that, it's going to be like Uber.
Kevin Rose
And will they land on my roof?
Alex Albrecht
So this is the thing. It's stepping stones.
Kevin Rose
I have a roof layer. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
I'm telling you, this could like. They're good. The next thing, the next version of this.
Kevin Rose
Can this vertical take off and land? Of course.
Alex Albrecht
It's vtol. Come on. Vertical takeoff and landing. Look at it. Look, look. There it goes.
Kevin Rose
Oh, my God. Is it cleared by the faa?
Alex Albrecht
Yes.
Kevin Rose
Wow. It's all electric.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. Well, it might be hydrogen cell, but It's. It's a. But they said it's like whisper quiet. It sounds like. But, dude. JFK to the Manhattan Heliport.
Kevin Rose
Dude, that looks like so much fun.
Alex Albrecht
And it's like seats five.
Kevin Rose
And I'd imagine if they have an engine failure, they kick in. Yeah. And these like land real quick.
Alex Albrecht
Look, LAX and dtla, eight minutes.
Kevin Rose
I love this.
Alex Albrecht
I literally just saw this yesterday. I like walked up to one yesterday and was like, wait, what the fuck is this? So it's called Joby J O B Y. There's an emergency alert. Probably gonna hit us.
Kevin Rose
Is that an earthquake?
Alex Albrecht
Is it an earthquake or.
Kevin Rose
I didn't get one. Only Mal got one. Oh, here we go.
Alex Albrecht
There goes. What is it?
Kevin Rose
Missing endangered adult. Did he party? Missing adult? No, it's not. Well, he's in jail, so I guess he couldn't be holding a party. That's. But yes, it's really cool, dude.
Alex Albrecht
We live so close to the Grove.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
That.
Kevin Rose
The fact that we change your.
Alex Albrecht
We would start flying out of LAX so much more. Cause we always fly out of Burbank. Cause it's just like so much better. But how fricking crazy is this?
Kevin Rose
What's the range on this thing?
Alex Albrecht
100 miles.
Kevin Rose
Okay, so you couldn't do it to Vegas.
Alex Albrecht
No, but the whole point is this is like. They always talk about this in logistics. It's like, what do they call it? The last mile.
Kevin Rose
Last mile. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
So it's like this is the last mile for flight, basically.
Kevin Rose
Right.
Alex Albrecht
So it's like instead of taking a 45 minute ride to fucking LAX. It was such a pain in the ass.
Kevin Rose
It was an hour and 20 minutes for me to get from LAX to my house, which I'm not that far away.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
No, but I sat in traffic all the time. Yep. I did watch a new episode of Shogun though. Oh, I'm getting through it.
Alex Albrecht
We watched the pilot episode and then we got off to some other show. I know. We're coming back.
Kevin Rose
We're coming back. It's so good.
Alex Albrecht
So good. Dude, watching that guy get boiled. I was like, oh, fuck me. I don't want. So glad we always talk about this, but Heather's always like, oh, it'd be so great to live in the 20s. I was like, dude, you'd die of a fucking pinprick.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. And there's no, like, running, like, good water and shit.
Alex Albrecht
Good luck taking a shit and not smelling it for four weeks.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Anyway, but long story short, how crazy is that?
Kevin Rose
I literally just bumped into one dude that's amazing. Yeah, this is kind of like where you. They have these ultralight, like, planes and stuff that you can get, and you get a mild certification, all that stuff. And I talked to some of my buddies that actually, like, fly, like, real flyers. Like, they have jets and shit. And not that I have that many, but, like, I have a couple friends that have jets. And like, they say the thing that sucks about those is you can't get above the weather. Like, the reason why you want private jet, like a. Oh, the little one?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, the little jet. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Is it can't get high enough to get out of the weather. And so they're like, yeah, you can go to Vegas, but you're in bumpy air the entire time, dude. And then, like, why do you want that?
Alex Albrecht
I mean, I restarted getting my pilot's license again, and I ended up not getting it again. I was. I was close. I was probably, like, a month out. Get the thing. And I was like, I just.
Kevin Rose
It's.
Alex Albrecht
It's fun. It's really fun in the sort of, like, video game thing. Oh, my God. This is crazy. I can't believe I can fly a plane myself. But I was just, like, logistically, like, am I really gonna fucking fly myself to Santa Barbara? Nah. You know what I mean? And it's not cheap. You know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
And then if you had a couple drinks the night before, right? Yeah. And then you're like, wish knob.
Alex Albrecht
I felt that way about my motorcycle. I felt that way about my motorcycle. I was like, so I can take my motorcycle any place except places that I want to go and have, like, a drink. I was like, let's take a waymo.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, exactly. All right, just a quick update on this story here, which I think is a good one. I'm heading to. As I mentioned, I'm heading to London. Oh, yeah, I downloaded the new Zelda, which just came out.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, on your switch.
Kevin Rose
I got my switch, which is echoes of wisdom.
Alex Albrecht
That'll get you.
Kevin Rose
And I'm so excited. Dude, you get to play. The main protagonist here is actually Zelda. Oh. For the first time in 38 years, they flipped it.
Alex Albrecht
That's amazing.
Kevin Rose
And so now, like, Link's in trouble, and Zelda's taking over, and my daughter Zelda is actually dressing up as Zelda for the first. For Halloween. For the first time this year.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God.
Kevin Rose
Which is gonna be so freaking cute.
Alex Albrecht
This neighborhood is so perfect.
Kevin Rose
Look at this. For Halloween, we can put this on.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God. Is she Zelda?
Kevin Rose
Look at how proud she is. We'll put this in the.
Alex Albrecht
That's fucking cool. That's gonna be fun.
Kevin Rose
I know. I'm going as Link. I told her I was gonna go as Link, so that's my.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, you'll have to share that on Instagram.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, I'm so proud. You know, she's. She's such a cutie.
Alex Albrecht
That's so cool.
Kevin Rose
Anyway, so just a heads up because that's an important one.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
And it's a top down 2D scroller, so it's not like an epic.
Alex Albrecht
Top down, 2D scroll, 3D top down, top down. So it's like the original. Yes, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Top down scroller.
Alex Albrecht
Top down scroller is the sideways one.
Kevin Rose
Okay.
Alex Albrecht
I'm gonna say it's a. Oh, God. What do they call that 3D now? Yeah, it's not like asymmetric. Asymmetric, no.
Kevin Rose
No one would call it that.
Alex Albrecht
There's a thing for it.
Kevin Rose
There's like a thousand gigs yelling at us right now.
Alex Albrecht
I know, I know, I know.
Kevin Rose
It's top down. Low.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
Top down gaming name. It's called 2D. Top down. No, isometric.
Alex Albrecht
Isometric.
Kevin Rose
That's not what I was thinking. But I just like to repeat you guys.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah, isometric. So.
Kevin Rose
But it looks really cool.
Alex Albrecht
I mean, it's close with asymmetric, But.
Kevin Rose
I love that though. Like for me, the Zeldas that were most fun. And don't get me wrong, the latest one was freaking epic. Yeah, but those are heavy commit games, right?
Alex Albrecht
100%.
Kevin Rose
And when you have this kind of top down 3D mode, for me, it's like a lot more just cutesy old nostalgia kind of play than like the pickup and play. It's not like pick up and play. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Not Farm Villa. The Village. What's that one that was.
Kevin Rose
Oh, yeah, yeah. The one where you like go. Yeah, it's.
Alex Albrecht
It's that same thing.
Kevin Rose
I need more game recommendations. Oh, you can get the new PlayStation Pro.
Alex Albrecht
Here's the thing.
Kevin Rose
I'm gonna get it.
Alex Albrecht
I know when we did all the TRS stuff, I got all the different game consoles and I would play all review all the games. The bottom line is.
Kevin Rose
Did you see what it's. What it does though?
Alex Albrecht
No, but the bottom line is I don't really do console gaming. I do PC gaming.
Kevin Rose
So you don't use a console thing at all on the PC.
Alex Albrecht
But usually I'm just mousing control. But I'm playing like World of Warcraft. I'm just.
Kevin Rose
Are you still World of World War?
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, I just finished War Within. What? Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Dude, dude, how many hours you got on there, bro?
Alex Albrecht
I can't even. I can't even.
Kevin Rose
I mean, you want thousands, Really?
Alex Albrecht
A billion percent? Yeah. When I do the slash played on some of my characters, it's like 752 days. You're like, oh, God.
Kevin Rose
Wow. That's a lot of life.
Alex Albrecht
I know. Well, this is why I started duolingo. It's so funny. That's why I started Duolingo because I was like, if I want to sit down and fuck around on TikTok for four hours a day or two hours a day or an hour a day. Yeah, I should be learning Italian.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, that's fair.
Alex Albrecht
And I'm on my 39 day streak.
Kevin Rose
I'm 15 in.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, I saw it.
Kevin Rose
I'm getting there. All right, last or second to last story? Yeah, last story.
Alex Albrecht
Last story.
Kevin Rose
This is gonna be a good one actually though, Meta announced a bunch of new shit.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
So Zog comes out on stage. He's wearing his own branded clothing which he makes himself. Now what he's hear that part? He does stuff like that. The Meta Quest 3S is a brand new budget friendly VR headset at 299.
Alex Albrecht
Man, that's fucking cheap. I think about how cheap these things are getting.
Kevin Rose
I know, but I still don't see. It still feels like a hammer looking for a nail. Like, I don't. I don't see anything that's that exciting. They have the Orion AR glasses now.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. Which are basically for Dev only they just showed them off. So they're not for sale. Like that's not the right.
Kevin Rose
But they want to get there. Right. So it's.
Alex Albrecht
By the way, they look exactly like the glasses that Bart had to wear when he turns into slowly into like a nerd. Remember that where he like more thicker. Yeah, yeah. It's like literally he had to wear these glasses. He had to wear like stilt shoes. He had to like scrape his mouth and he basically just becomes this like massive nerd.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Those glasses look exactly like the Orion glasses.
Kevin Rose
The thing about this is I remember when I got the Google Glass when I was working at Google.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And it was a very awkward thing because there was a big pushback against it. So I got really lucky in that I got an introduction to the glass team and they gave me. I was the first external out of the glass team person to receive them.
Alex Albrecht
Amazing.
Kevin Rose
And so I got to take them and I was like, I'M gonna take them to a party in San Francisco. Cause everyone was hyping about and so I was wearing them and I looked like an absolute dork, but everyone wanted to see them.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
And then as they started to unfold, there was like one woman that wore them to a bar and actually got them knocked off her face by someone.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, I remember this. Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And it was like this big pushback against like privacy and the don't point your cameras at me 100%. I don't know that that ever goes away.
Alex Albrecht
Well, but then think about like the meta Ray Bans, right? Like those exist, those have front facing cameras. And I don't feel like they're getting as much flack as the Google.
Kevin Rose
Do you know anyone that owns them though?
Alex Albrecht
I mean, not anybody that owns them without like working in the space. You know what I mean?
Kevin Rose
Yeah, I just, I can imagine. Like, it's so funny. There's some of this tech that we see where.
Alex Albrecht
And then didn't snap announce theirs.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, they did.
Alex Albrecht
Looked so bad.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So the thing, when I think about this stuff, I think, okay, what's the practical real world?
Alex Albrecht
How are you going to use it?
Kevin Rose
Yeah. And for me it's like, it's almost like when. Remember when the Segway came out and we were like, oh, that looks pretty cool. Oh, yeah. And then we rode one. We did them on tv. Yeah, yeah. And it was like, it was very apparent that they were so dorky that you didn't want to be seen in public with them.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
But if you were in like France and you wanted to do like a 10 mile walking tour.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
In four hours.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
You were like, I'll be that tourist. And you like put the freaking helmet on. You go to town. Right. I kind of feel like these, these glasses will be that. Where you'll be like, oh, I'm traveling.
Alex Albrecht
So it's like, it's like you remember where you do like the docent in the museum where you get the like little audio thing.
Kevin Rose
Exactly.
Alex Albrecht
You put these on to go take a tour of museum.
Kevin Rose
Exactly.
Alex Albrecht
Overlays.
Kevin Rose
You're walking around in a foreign city and it's like, oh, that building was created in 1910. You're like, oh, that's so cool.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. Take the meta Orion quest of like Florence and the Squares. That's actually that, that feels like an application that I would use.
Kevin Rose
I'm just still not a huge fan. But anyway, so props to Zach. He's trying to push that forward. Like, whatever. I think.
Alex Albrecht
Did you see the Thing about the.
Kevin Rose
The wristband. Yeah, the wristband helps you control it with your fingers.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. But it's not the motion. It's the actual electronic electrical current being sent to your muscles.
Kevin Rose
Oh, I didn't know that.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. So I was like, oh. Cause, like, with this, it's all just the sort of, like, motion thing. Tip, tip, tap, tap, tap, tap, bleep, bleep, toast, toast. Mine's not working for some reason. That's Snoopy.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
But this one is actually sensing the electrical charge going through your muscles. That, to me, feels like, oh, that's a whole other technology.
Kevin Rose
Right, right.
Alex Albrecht
I also like the idea that they have. They call it the processing puck. So basically, the glasses come with the glasses, and then this thing that looks like. I mean, like a pencil case. It's got the two Snapdragon processors in it. It wirelessly connects to the glasses. So it's like having an external video card, but without any physical dongle.
Kevin Rose
So that's interesting.
Alex Albrecht
So you can carry it, but the processing is done in the puck. And so I was like, well, that's kind of a cool, innovative thing.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, it's really cool because you're. You're taking the. The heaviness of the processing and the battery.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And saying, this can go in my pocket and go.
Alex Albrecht
It's also wireless.
Kevin Rose
Right. But, like, the cool thing about that is, like, you. You're off. You're basically taking the. The computational side of it.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Which is the heat, the weight, the everything else.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And saying, get it. Get it off my. My helmet, off my face.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And put it in a place that's wireless. That makes a ton of sense. It's awesome. Awesome. Okay. So the one thing I will say, forget all that stuff that I am most excited about that was Sister. That I'm most excited about is that they are taking videos that now you upload to, like, Instagram.
Alex Albrecht
Okay.
Kevin Rose
Or WhatsApp. And they're doing some other integrations as well. And they're doing voiceover lip syncing in different languages. So they call this AI powered dubbing tool.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, that's really interesting.
Kevin Rose
I almost did this for my last podcast where I found a company that was doing. You could take a transcript, you can drop it into, like, say, Japanese, and then they would do the AI voice lip dubbing, and you could release it to the Japanese market on podcasting. Japanese itunes. So imagine our clips hit, like, 30 other languages.
Alex Albrecht
Wow, that's really cool. It's funny. There was. I saw this interview. I can't. I think it might have been Mr. Beast, but it was like, long time ago. But one of the things he was being interviewed and one of the things he said was one of our biggest things is that they have translators that translate their videos into all these different local, super localized, like, regional dialect in Portugal.
Kevin Rose
Right.
Alex Albrecht
And he was like, we get double our views from all of that.
Kevin Rose
Well, 100%.
Alex Albrecht
And it was like, that just is crazy that you could just like, you know, have. Have people feel like they're watching the. Consuming the content as if we were speaking their language.
Kevin Rose
And so I have to imagine in the short term we're gonna see a massive boost in, like, breakout shows that just resonate with a different audience in another country.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, 100%.
Kevin Rose
There's a chance the Japanese audience likes us. Do you think they'll like us?
Alex Albrecht
Of course. Konnichiwa. By the way, speaking of Japanese audience, we just started watching Drops of God on Apple tv plus. What's that? It's been out for a while. Yeah, you should watch it. It's about this French vintner who was like an asshole to his daughter, and he ends up moving to Japan and he passes away. And essentially he's gonna give his estate, like, all this wine and all, like these millions of dollars to either his daughter, who he's estranged from, who's French, or this guy who he's been sort of training as like master sommelier.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
And the thing that they have to do is taste these wines and label these, like, like eight wines from his cellar to know which one's gonna get the, like, 200 million dollar thing. It's so good because it takes place in Japan. It's also about wine. And a lot of times they're speaking English, but she speaks French and the other guy speaks, like, Japanese, but the common language is English, so it's.
Kevin Rose
It's. That's awesome, dude. I love that.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, it's called Drops of God.
Kevin Rose
I will. I. I'm always adding to my list. Oh, by the way, I am on that app now. Letterboxd.
Alex Albrecht
The app.
Kevin Rose
Do you know Letterboxd?
Alex Albrecht
I mean, the one that's been around for like, ages, Correct?
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So you could follow me and my movies that I'm liking. My name on letterboxd is Profile Watchlist.
Alex Albrecht
It's not Kevin.
Kevin Rose
No, they don't give me. I was late to the game. Pronouns, he, his, kk, Rosie, Rose.
Alex Albrecht
How come you can't find your profile on that? Come on.
Kevin Rose
I don't know. There is Kevinrose 77.
Alex Albrecht
That tracks.
Kevin Rose
Follow me up There. And I've got. I've only rated a few things, but, yeah, that's where I'm doing all my movies. I have this list of 500 movies to watch before you die.
Alex Albrecht
Holy shit.
Kevin Rose
And so I'm really excited to.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. What's number one?
Kevin Rose
Well, they're not ranked like that. Have you guys heard of a movie called in the Mood for Love? Apparently it's really good.
Alex Albrecht
Have you guys heard of the movie. Wait, so what's in what?
Kevin Rose
Well, the one I've watched recently is Harry Carey.
Alex Albrecht
Harry Carey.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So that's like a sepo Sepacura where they. They stab themselves.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Rose
So it's basically. It won like, all these awards. It's the. They consider to be the many considered to be the most important Japanese film of all time.
Alex Albrecht
Is it Kurosawa or is it somebody else?
Kevin Rose
I don't know. I don't know about that. But I do know that it was epic and it was like, basically, you know, it's not in English. It was filmed in like the 50s or something.
Alex Albrecht
Oh.
Kevin Rose
And it's basically about samurai warriors. And I don't want to ruin it for you, but it's like freaking. It's amazing. It's about these guys that commit suicide. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
And what they have to go through and the honor and all that. And it's just like, I can see why it won so many awards back then. It's still like a really good movie.
Alex Albrecht
Like, so another one, if you're into Japanese stuff, is Hari Cary. I'm sorry. Oh, God.
Kevin Rose
I did not mean to be dick about that. I just mispronounced it.
Alex Albrecht
It's called Gary Haji. It's not called caricare. You should have you heard of Harry Kara.
Kevin Rose
Just like you'll eventually see us go full dementia by the time we're done with this. With this show in like 10 years.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, I heard about a movie called Harry Carrie.
Kevin Rose
It was great. Yeah. So Gary Haji.
Alex Albrecht
It's. I think. I can't remember if it's on Netflix, Amazon or whatever, but it's really good. You just watch it.
Kevin Rose
It's great. Okay, great.
Alex Albrecht
Movie or TV show?
Kevin Rose
Emails.
Alex Albrecht
We have an email address.
Kevin Rose
Yes.
Alex Albrecht
And you guys have emailed.
Kevin Rose
So we have. It is fansignation show. Send us your most pressing questions, including but not limited to technology advice, relationship advice, vehicle maintenance.
Alex Albrecht
Vehicle maintenance.
Kevin Rose
Don't know what else we could ask for. So there are things we're good at. Investing, video games. Yes, that's it. That's pretty much what we got. That's it. All right, so. So we've got a light one and then we've got a really fucking dark one. Oh God.
Alex Albrecht
Kevin chose these. I'm so excited.
Kevin Rose
Do you want the light one first or do you want the dark one first?
Alex Albrecht
Let's do the dark one first.
Kevin Rose
Okay.
Alex Albrecht
So then we're not ending the show on a dark one.
Kevin Rose
Okay. So I want to take this really seriously and not laugh and like be very serious about it, but I did not do that. I want to let this guy know that we love him.
Alex Albrecht
Okay. Okay.
Kevin Rose
This guy's name is Jeremy.
Alex Albrecht
Hello, Jeremy.
Kevin Rose
And he wrote and he said, please plead for help with treatment resistant depression.
Alex Albrecht
He said treatment resistant depression, which is.
Kevin Rose
The kind where you tried drugs. Nothing's working. He goes, hi. Saw Kevin talking about using ketamine to treat depression. Because I had an episode about ketamine usage. I used it when I was stressed out. For me it was a lot of anxiety, but I've had a lot of friends use it for depression. I have treatment resistant to depression and suffer from constant suicidal thoughts.
Alex Albrecht
Oh man.
Kevin Rose
So much that I have been able to successfully apply for medically assisted dying in Canada and have been approved.
Alex Albrecht
Jesus, buddy.
Kevin Rose
I know, I know. So it's pretty hardcore.
Alex Albrecht
Let's put on a live show so you can just come.
Kevin Rose
We can have seriously however, wanted to reach out and see if there was someone that could help with getting me ketamine treatment so I don't just fade away and have a couple more years of life. Any chance of passing this along or passing this along? Unfortunately, due to mental health situation for seven years, it left me in a horrible financial shape. I'm just looking for a treatment that may help improve my life. Okay. Humbly, Jeremy. So Jeremy, I think a couple things to say, you know, there is a bunch of clinics on the ketamine side. I can't be your doctor, but you can go research them out. That episode that I did was mainly so you could see what a high quality clinic does look like. So you're not doing some fly by night operation. Somebody's a chiropractor doing ketamine therapy. You want to actually have a real doctor doing it. We want to say that we love you. Thank you for watching dignation and Dude Brother. Like listen, life is a crazy, twisty roller coaster of ups and downs. Don't believe anybody that tells you it's a straight up and to the right. This is not a crazy. Like we've all been through some shit and we just want to say that as Someone that's watching us at least. I want to say that we'd love to have you out of the live show. We've got your back. We really appreciate you writing in and there is hope. This does not have to be the end. We hope you seek out some treatment, try some new things. And there are a bunch of really amazing compounds that are in the wings a few years out, including one that I saw recently. It was approved. That is a. It was. It's like an analog to ketamine therapy and pill form. That's antidepressant now.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, wow.
Kevin Rose
So there's a bunch of new modalities that are coming very soon. Get outside, get some exercise, work with your doctors, but please come see us for a live show. We'd love to host you and hang out and just give you a hug because you're not in this alone, man. A lot of people are going through this shit. I just wanted to do this one because.
Alex Albrecht
No, no, no, it's great.
Kevin Rose
All of our fans are. It's funny. I just did this. True ventures off site. When you have 50 plus people, undoubtedly someone is dealing with something really hardcore. Either a passing of a family member, someone going through cancer. We're at that age now, and I know, you know, we got enough people watching this that are in the tens of thousands now that, like, some of you are going through some shit. And, you know, we should set up.
Alex Albrecht
Like a discord where people could get together and chat with each other.
Kevin Rose
Seriously. Like a dignity discord.
Alex Albrecht
Nobody out there is probably having the same 100% that you are.
Kevin Rose
100%. And like, if we're gonna do a live show, eventually, 100%. If we could do something where, you know, you just want to come up and say hi and get a hug, like, we're all about that and supporting the community that's always had our back for so many years. It's the least we could do. So please let us know. And we're sending you lots of love.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah. And keep emailing us.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, please. So, Jeremy, thank you for that one. Heavy. Thanks for being so vulnerable.
Alex Albrecht
No, also important.
Kevin Rose
No, very important.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
All right. This is from Ju Kang.
Alex Albrecht
Just straight to Less Heavy.
Kevin Rose
I mean, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, but the whole point is the title is Hyundai. Pronunciation from Ju Kang. Long time fan. Thank you, Jew. Joe. Joe. I don't know how to pronounce his name. The part reason we're doing this is to learn from you, Joe Chu. It is unbelievable that you guys are back thank you, Jew.
Alex Albrecht
Thank you.
Kevin Rose
And anyways, I speak Korean and it was a torture to watch you guys in the last episode getting further and further away from the correct Korean pronunciation. We were trying to. For people that don't know, we could probably do a quick little flip back.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, did he attach an audio of him?
Kevin Rose
Yeah, he did.
Alex Albrecht
He did.
Kevin Rose
He did. We were trying to. You were trying to figure it out. Google says it wrong.
Alex Albrecht
Thank you.
Kevin Rose
We did look at the Google pronunciation in Korea is.
Alex Albrecht
Nope. I don't believe that's how it's pronounced. Oh. All the letters are silent except the.
Kevin Rose
H. Give me a second. The correct pronunciation for in Korean for handa is Hyundai. So you wrote it out. Okay, here we go, here we go, here we go. Hyundai. Oh, Hyundai.
Alex Albrecht
This is how I was pronouncing it. Right. I'm a big fan of the new Hyundai Element electric car.
Kevin Rose
Hyundai.
Alex Albrecht
Isn't that how. No.
Kevin Rose
Is that a Hyundai?
Alex Albrecht
Hyundai.
Kevin Rose
Hold on.
Alex Albrecht
Nice Hyundai you got there.
Kevin Rose
What? Nice Hyundai you got there.
Alex Albrecht
What kind of Hyundai is that? Hyundai.
Kevin Rose
He's giving us so many examples. Thank you.
Alex Albrecht
Jew.
Kevin Rose
Oh. Oh, no. You know what?
Alex Albrecht
It's not pronounced you.
Kevin Rose
He said hit the bottom. Pronounced Jew. It says it right there at the bottom.
Alex Albrecht
All right.
Kevin Rose
Yeah, I got that one.
Alex Albrecht
Nailed it. Nailed that.
Kevin Rose
Nailed it.
Alex Albrecht
Kevin.
Kevin Rose
All right.
Alex Albrecht
Nailed it.
Kevin Rose
Ju. Thank you for writing in. And we look forward to our live dignation in South Korea on our world tour, which is starting well, you leave.
Alex Albrecht
For London Sunday, so.
Kevin Rose
Exactly.
Alex Albrecht
I'll just meet you there.
Kevin Rose
Exactly.
Alex Albrecht
Oh, my God. That is so frickin funny.
Kevin Rose
Yeah. So thank you for that.
Alex Albrecht
I don't know if I walked away from that email exactly knowing how to say Hyundai. Hyundai. That's what it was. I was saying Hyundai, but I was giving you the Hyundai.
Kevin Rose
You get the Hyundai. You just think of the die, right? Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Hyundai.
Kevin Rose
Hyundai. Anyway, I still want one of those cars, bro.
Alex Albrecht
If anybody works at Hyundai, we would love to get one of those retro 80s awesome machines.
Kevin Rose
Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Hell yes.
Kevin Rose
That would be amazing. All right.
Alex Albrecht
Oh my God. That was so fun.
Kevin Rose
That was an amazing episode. Lots of fun. If you have stories, anything else you want to recommend, email us. Fansindignation show and just a reminder. Yes.
Alex Albrecht
Where can they see us?
Kevin Rose
Well, I would say there's two things you can do that would really help us out if you're an old school fan and we appreciate you. Dude, you know what's funny? I was in the freaking airport today. I Got recognized by 2 people. Full sending nation.
Alex Albrecht
Get out of town.
Kevin Rose
Really? Yeah. They were like dude, donations back. And these are like full on executive guys, like suits and shit. Like all of our fans have grown up so great and they're like now all tech executives and shit. It was so awesome. So I love it. It happened twice and then it happened one other place. I feel. Oh, I was with. I was with Dar when we were walking in the park like around the corner here and some guys like dignation.
Alex Albrecht
Oh my gosh.
Kevin Rose
I was like, holy shit. Like people love it. So anyway, tell your friends if you're an old dignation fan, we'd really appreciate it. And of course I would say number one is definitely subscribe to our YouTube, which is slash dignation. The clips are going to be great, which is a really long URL. Highlights could have been clips too. Ignition clips wasn't available.
Alex Albrecht
Highlights too.
Kevin Rose
Oh, highlights. Okay. Ignition highlights. But the Instagram would be huge.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah.
Kevin Rose
Instagram.com thedignation we're posting all kinds of funny clips there.
Alex Albrecht
Yeah, it's great.
Kevin Rose
And I'm commenting on shit and stuff and having a good time there, so that would be a good one as well. And then if you're a TikTok person. TikTok.com thedignation and that is it for this episode. Again, just a reminder, we're doing these every three weeks or so, so make sure to keep checking back and check your.
Alex Albrecht
Kevin, I would like to say thank you kindly for my first ever Crocs.
Kevin Rose
And your first ever number one beer in the world.
Alex Albrecht
My first ever number one beer in the world, which by the way, was slapping.
Kevin Rose
Isn't that good, dude? Kentucky brunch by toppling Gargoyle Goliath. Yeah.
Alex Albrecht
Oh God, that was so great. Well, thank you guys all so much for watching and we will see you in a few weeks. Hope you're having a great time.
Podcast Summary: Diggnation (Rebooted) – "Diddy, Flying Taxis, and a $350 Bottle of Beer"
Release Date: October 2, 2024
Hosts: Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht
Duration: Approximately 100 minutes
Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht kick off the episode with their signature laid-back and humorous rapport. They reminisce about the early days of Diggnation, discussing past antics like taping 40-ounce beers to their hands. Their lighthearted conversation sets the tone for the episode, blending nostalgia with current experiences.
Notable Quote:
Alex Albrecht (00:00): "This is gonna be one of those days, guys. I'm starting to kind of get to this place where I just don't believe anything that Tesla says."
The hosts delve into their passion for craft beer, highlighting Heady Topper as the top-rated IPA in the world. Kevin presents a rare stout, the Toppling Gobbler's Kentucky Brunch, discussing its unique packaging dipped in silver wax and its intricate flavor profile featuring chocolate and walnut notes.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (06:01): "So in that genre, that style of beer, it is number one."
Alex Albrecht (12:26): "Dude, that tastes like a fucking dessert wine."
Transitioning to technology, Kevin and Alex review the latest Apple Watch models. They discuss features like the new magnet add-ons for cases and share their excitement about integrating gadgets like the remarkable tablet for note-taking. Their conversation highlights the intersection of functionality and style in modern tech.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (15:31): "So that is a magnet add on. When you don't do a case and it snaps into the back, it gives you a little holdsies."
Alex Albrecht (19:34): "Wow, dude, this is creepy."
Kevin introduces Notebook LM, an experimental AI-powered note-taking tool from Google, powered by Gemini 1.5 Pro. They explore its capabilities, such as converting handwritten notes to text and integrating seamlessly with cloud services. The hosts discuss the broader implications of AI in enhancing productivity and personal workflows.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (40:34): "It allows you to do note taking. You could do all different types of stuff and you can give it instructions and kind of query your own data."
Alex Albrecht (46:11): "It's crazy, dude. It's so crazy."
Shifting to more intense topics, the hosts discuss the emerging trend of slap fighting competitions. They express concern over the health risks, including concussions and fatal injuries, citing a tragic incident where a competitor died from a brain bleed after a severe slap.
Notable Quotes:
Alex Albrecht (57:12): "Nobody doctors are very worried about the effects of face slap fighting on the competitors."
Kevin Rose (60:07): "It's literally the person that gets unconscious loses."
Kevin shares a bizarre story about encountering Diddy parties involving an overwhelming number of baby oil bottles—reportedly up to a thousand—and the implications of such excess. The conversation humorously imagines creative (and slippery) ways to escape these extravagant gatherings, blending absurdity with celebrity culture commentary.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (64:31): "They found a thousand bottles of baby oil in his house."
Alex Albrecht (70:03): "But like, how do you get out once the door locks?"
Introducing futuristic transportation, Kevin and Alex discuss Joby, a company pioneering flying taxis in Los Angeles and New York. They marvel at the vehicle's design, safety features, and potential to revolutionize urban transit with vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) capabilities. The hosts speculate on the practicality and widespread adoption of such technology.
Notable Quotes:
Alex Albrecht (75:09): "So it's like the last mile for flight, basically."
Kevin Rose (75:23): "Dude, I would."
The conversation turns to cinema as Kevin promotes his presence on Letterboxd, a social platform for movie enthusiasts. He recommends films like Drops of God and In the Mood for Love, emphasizing their cultural and artistic significance. Alex shares his own viewing habits, highlighting the interplay between movies and personal interests.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (89:58): "It's the most important Japanese film of all time."
Alex Albrecht (89:58): "Drops of God on Apple TV Plus. What's that?"
Wrapping up with the latest in virtual reality, the hosts review Meta's new budget-friendly VR headset, the Meta Quest 3S, priced at $299. They discuss its features, including the innovative wristband control and the integration of external processing pucks to enhance performance without adding bulk to the headset itself. The discussion extends to the challenges and future of VR adoption.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (93:28): "And they're doing voiceover lip syncing in different languages. So they call this AI powered dubbing tool."
Alex Albrecht (94:35): "It's super safety. Post Covid."
In a heartfelt segment, Kevin addresses an email from a listener named Jeremy who is battling treatment-resistant depression. Both hosts offer words of encouragement, share personal experiences with mental health, and emphasize the importance of seeking professional help. They also discuss the potential of AI and emerging therapies, reinforcing their commitment to supporting their community.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (92:43): "I have treatment resistant to depression and suffer from constant suicidal thoughts."
Alex Albrecht (96:16): "No, no, no, it's great."
Kevin and Alex conclude the episode by encouraging listeners to subscribe to their various platforms, including YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok. They express gratitude towards their fans, share plans for live shows, and hint at future topics and technological explorations. The episode ends on a supportive and optimistic note, reinforcing the community bond with their audience.
Notable Quotes:
Kevin Rose (100:02): "And then your microscopic rain mixes with the city's bright lights, creating a dazzling display that's nothing short of magical."
Alex Albrecht (100:11): "Yeah, thank you guys all so much for watching and we will see you in a few weeks."
Thank you for tuning into the rebooted Diggnation! Stay geeky, stay curious, and keep exploring the vast corners of the internet with Kevin and Alex.