Flow by Google, Alex Voices a Predator, and 41 Days Sober | E015 | Diggnation

Summary

Diggnation (Rebooted) Episode E015 Summary

Release Date: June 5, 2025

Hosts: Kevin Rose & Alex Albrecht

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1. Personal Updates and Sobriety Journey

Kevin Rose opens the episode by sharing his recent endeavors, notably his extensive trip to New York. He highlights attending a Wall Street Journal conference with Alexis, participating in a CNN interview, conducting an AMA (Ask Me Anything), and exploring various startups at Betaworks. Kevin emphasizes the positive impact of his 41-day sobriety journey on his professional interactions.

• Kevin Rose [02:20]: "I am 41 days in."

Alex Albrecht expresses admiration for Kevin's commitment to sobriety, noting visible improvements in his demeanor.

• Alex Albrecht [02:46]: "I actually think you can see the effect of the sober on you."

Kevin further discusses his health progress, mentioning a recent full-body MRI that detected a minor brain hemorrhage risk and fatty liver, attributing these improvements to his abstinence from alcohol.

• Kevin Rose [03:30]: "I had a little bit of fatty liver, which is what you start to get around our age if you drink too much."

2. Tech Upgrades and Digital Tools

Alex unveils his new MacBook Pro M4 in sleek black, transitioning entirely from Windows to Apple's ecosystem. He praises the integration between his MacBook, iPad, and iPhone, highlighting features like iPhone mirroring and seamless copy-paste functions.

• Alex Albrecht [07:44]: "It's really great. I found that I have a weird, like, use case for it because it's not like I'm playing video games on it."

Kevin encourages Alex to explore additional Mac features, such as iPhone mirroring, enhancing their productivity and creative workflows.

• Kevin Rose [09:22]: "You should try the iPhone mirroring too, where you can get your iPhone pulled up on here."

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3. Story 1: Flow by Google and AI-Generated Content

The hosts delve into the first major topic: Google's "Flow," an advanced AI tool capable of generating intricate videos from simple prompts. Kevin demonstrates creating AI-generated videos, showcasing both impressive and comical results.

• Kevin Rose [14:40]: "Flow is so, if people don't know, you can type in a prompt. It will give you this beautiful video back with audio."

However, not all creations turn out as expected. The duo shares amusing mishaps, such as AI rendering Kevin as an old condo salesman and producing a distorted version of an AI girlfriend, highlighting the current limitations and quirks of AI-generated media.

• Kevin Rose [16:35]: "I told her she was to say, 'Alex, you know what sounds good to me right now?' And then she'd smile and pull out a 1980s modem from her mouth."

Alex raises concerns about the uncanny nature of such AI outputs, pondering the ethical implications and potential for misuse, especially if AI-generated content becomes indistinguishable from reality.

• Alex Albrecht [27:30]: "The good news is, today it still has that, like, funky feeling in your face."

The conversation concludes with a reflection on the future of AI in content creation, emphasizing both its creative potential and the necessity for responsible use.

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4. Story 2: Alex Voices a Predator in "Killer of Killers"

Alex Albrecht shares his exciting experience voicing a character in the new Predator animated anthology movie, "Killer of Killers," set to premiere on Hulu.

He recounts attending a screening and his journey to securing a role in the film. Through detailed explanations, Alex illustrates the collaborative process of voice acting and the technical aspects of integrating his performance into the animated sequences using Unreal Engine.

• Alex Albrecht [29:49]: "It's all done in Unreal Engine, and it spans across different time periods. It's so good, dude."

He humorously describes the challenges faced during production, such as recording lines in ancient Norse and participating in intense battle scenes.

• Alex Albrecht [35:52]: "I did a whole fucking half day. You didn't even know. Speaking Ancient Nordic and if you watch the movie, in the opening shot of the movie, it pans through this boat and ends on this big Nordic guy..."

Alex emphasizes the high quality and faithfulness to the Predator franchise, recommending it to fans and even those skeptical about animated content.

• Alex Albrecht [37:42]: "If you are a Predator fan, you have to see it."

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5. Story 3: Builder AI's Bankruptcy and Fraudulent Practices

The third segment addresses a significant scandal in the AI industry. Kevin and Alex discuss the downfall of Builder AI, a London-based startup that falsely marketed itself as an advanced AI coding platform.

• Kevin Rose [63:46]: "There was an AI startup called Builder AI... they were using that money to hire 700 Indian coders to just code as fast as they could."

Despite receiving substantial investments, including a $455 million backing from Microsoft and a valuation soaring to $1.5 billion, Builder AI was exposed for lacking genuine AI capabilities. Instead of leveraging AI, the company relied on a vast team of human engineers to fulfill coding requests manually.

• Alex Albrecht [65:08]: "They were literally using a bunch of people, right? Pretending to be AI to make money in the AI craze."

The hosts explore the broader implications of such fraudulent practices, pondering the future integrity of the AI market and the potential for similar deceptions to emerge.

• Kevin Rose [65:39]: "I have a feeling people are gonna be faking a lot."

They underscore the importance of transparency and ethical standards in AI development to prevent misleading advancements and protect consumer trust.

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6. Reflections on Sobriety and Social Interactions

Towards the end of the episode, Alex shares insights from his personal sobriety journey, emphasizing the psychological liberation that comes with realizing others are primarily focused on themselves rather than judging one's actions.

• Alex Albrecht [90:55]: "Most people aren't thinking about you. Everybody is thinking about themselves."

Kevin concurs, highlighting the freeing nature of this realization, which can alleviate social anxieties and promote more authentic interactions.

• Kevin Rose [92:11]: "That's a good point."

The discussion culminates with the hosts encouraging listeners to embrace self-awareness and let go of undue self-consciousness in social settings.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Kevin Rose [02:20]: "I am 41 days in."
• Alex Albrecht [02:46]: "I actually think you can see the effect of the sober on you."
• Kevin Rose [16:35]: "I told her she was to say, 'Alex, you know what sounds good to me right now?' And then she'd smile and pull out a 1980s modem from her mouth."
• Alex Albrecht [29:49]: "It's all done in Unreal Engine, and it spans across different time periods. It's so good, dude."
• Kevin Rose [63:46]: "They were literally using a bunch of people, right? Pretending to be AI to make money in the AI craze."
• Alex Albrecht [90:55]: "Most people aren't thinking about you. Everybody is thinking about themselves."

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Conclusion

In this episode of Diggnation (Rebooted), Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht navigate through a blend of personal storytelling, technological explorations, and industry insights. From Kevin's commendable sobriety journey and Alex's foray into voice acting to the alarming revelation of fraudulent practices in the AI sector, the hosts deliver a rich and engaging conversation. Their candid discussions not only entertain but also provide valuable perspectives on the evolving landscape of technology and personal well-being.

Transcript

[A]

Alex, you know what sounds good to me right now?

[B]

Oh, my God, I'm so scared. Why would you. Alex. Did she just suck off an IO port? I told her, welcome to dignation. Also potentially hazardous to your health.

[A]

All right, moving on. Why do you have flies in your freaking house?

[B]

I've noticed in California. It's Southern California, and I have fruit.

[A]

You put zombies. Put eerie in the title, and I don't want to do it. Dignation.com. hello, and welcome to Dignation. Episode number 15. I'm Kevin Rose.

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And I'm Alex Albrecht. Dig Nation covers some of the hottest news stories all over the World Wide Web or the WWW, as the children are calling it today.

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Yes.

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I don't know if anybody's calling it that anymore.

[A]

No, it used to be cyberspace.

[B]

Oh, it did used to be cyberspace. That's weird.

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What else was it? Cyberspace never really made sense to me.

[B]

No. Because it was not a space. It's just. It's like.

[A]

What was cyber about it?

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Computers?

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know how large right now.

[A]

Are you sitting on a pillow?

[B]

You're sitting on a pillow? Of course. Why are you sitting on a pillow? I'm always sitting on a pillow. This is the literal pillow that's been in the studio for the entire time.

[A]

You're trying to get boosted bigger than me?

[B]

No, I was just sitting on the pillow because my back is hurting. Well, actually, that's not true. I'm just trying to get out of this conversation. Hey, anyway, welcome, everybody. Good to see you. Kevin.

[A]

How are you?

[B]

How are you?

[A]

I've been good.

[B]

I'm sorry I'm so imposing.

[A]

Been well traveled. Well, I'll get back to you on that because I will be imposing in a second. This is gonna be a fun episode. We've got some weird shit to share. I've been traveling a lot.

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Did New York, which I did New York, too. It was so weird. I didn't know you were gonna be there.

[A]

I know. I was texting you and you were like, I'm flying out.

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I was like, I'm literally standing in a Rockefeller center right now. And you're like, I just got here. And I was like, well, I'm leaving.

[A]

I went out there, spoke at the Wall Street Journal conference with Alexis.

[B]

Yeah, I saw.

[A]

Talked about all things Dig, which is great. Did a little CNN interview. Did another AMA interview. Wow. Bounced around, went to Betaworks, saw a bunch of their startups. Like, all kinds of fun stuff.

[B]

Cool. How long were you in New York?

[A]

Almost like a full week. Yeah, it was a full week.

[B]

That's amazing. And then what else you said have been well traveled. Just there.

[A]

Just there. I mean, that's well traveled sober life.

[B]

So I was gonna say, how is that going? Let me just get some wine for you, sir.

[A]

No, you should. I'm not ready for wine. But I. So I'm Fin. I'm 41 days in.

[B]

Oh. I was like, you are not 41.

[A]

No, I'm 40.

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40. No, I get it. 41 days in. That's good. I will say this is probably gonna make it a little harder, but watching that Wall Street Journal thing, I was like, you look good.

[A]

Oh, thank you.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I actually think you can see the effect of the sober on you.

[A]

Yeah.

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Which is sad.

[A]

I know. For every reason I did this CNN interview and I was just like in the hot seat and they turned the cameras on and I was just jamming with the person and, like, just firing all cylinders. And I'm like. And I walked out and Chelsea, our PR lady, was like, oh, that was like an amazing interview.

[B]

And I'm like, yeah, you're like, God damn it. Sober, it's not drinking.

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It's sad.

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I mean, of course it's sad, but we know this. It's not rocket science. This is all information that has existed to doctors for millennia.

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I had got my full teeth ct.

[B]

You got your full teeth in file.

[A]

We'll get to that, too.

[B]

Actually, Kevin, this is so great. I'm so excited.

[A]

I've got so many things to tell you. I had my full body MRI done, which I do like once every year and a half.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Pre novo or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Because I had like a little small brain hemorrhage thing. Little cyst thing. Not cyst, but it's like where it can turn into one of those things.

[B]

That blows up aneurysm.

[A]

Aneurysm, yeah.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

So anyway, I had one of those and they check it. So I had a little bit of fatty liver, which is what you start to get around our age if you drink too much.

[B]

Yes. I think my liver is mostly fat at this point.

[A]

You gotta get you.

[B]

I don't have a lot. I don't have a lot of liver.

[A]

We gotta get you on the pre novo scan.

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I know, I will. Yeah. I'll tell you, I'll give you a little story after this, but what?

[A]

You did it.

[B]

Well, no, but I will.

[A]

Okay. Are you going to give up drinking for a little bit?

[B]

I mean, I may. Thank you. Your skin.

[A]

Complexion Looks great.

[B]

Thank you. I. It's mostly drinking. It's more alcohol.

[A]

Alcohol chic.

[B]

It's alcohol chic. Yeah. No, no, I think, dude, it's just working out. Working out, you know, and eating. Okay. We've been. I think we. Cause we've been doing the fucking kitchen remodel. Yes, I know. I'm still doing the fucking kitchen remodel, everybody. Hopefully it'll be done today or by Friday this week. But we also found out that something exploded. Anyway. It's fine. Everything's fine. It's fine. We're fine. But that said, when we first started, it was like fucking. Let's just eat everything. We're ordering it. Let's do all this crazy shit. And then now it's like, I just want, like, chicken. I just want, like a nice roasted fish. You know what I mean? Cause you can't really order that stuff in. Cause there's like, what am I gonna get? Like a little. I mean, we've gone through first off before we started the home renovation. And then we're gonna get back to all the crazy shit that's going on with you. But before we get to the home renovation, I went to Costco and I bought 150 paper plates, and we have burned through all 150 paper plates.

[A]

Oh. Cause you didn't have any way to do your dishes or anything like that?

[B]

Well, we. I mean, we have our bathroom sink, but, like, think about washing dishes in the bathroom sink. Nah. It's so fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, okay, so back to. You got the scan?

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Yeah.

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Little fatty liver.

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Little fatty liver.

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When did you get the scan? Was it after the fourth year? It was after.

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But it's. It's just like, with the liver enzymes. It's like a good thing that I'm not drinking. So. The 90 days is gonna be tough. It has been.

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That was the goal. I don't know if you said that on the last episode.

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I think I did at some point.

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Maybe I was drunk.

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But I will say flying sucks.

[B]

Oh, right. Cause you always yell.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like that. Like, life just like these things that happen, like, love. It's just kinda like. It's hard.

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I know.

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A buddy told me, he said the best way to know why you're drinking, to stop drinking.

[B]

And you were just, like, sitting there going, oh, God, what is this?

[A]

It's a good muscle to build, though, to just be with yourself and be okay with it all.

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I know. You can also not be with yourself.

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Or be okay with. I'm sticking with it. Though 90 days before we're gonna be.

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I'm supporting.

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I'm feeling good about it.

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So what is that? Not this episode, not next episode. The episode after that.

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Yeah.

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Which is good because that could potentially be our 20th anniversary.

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It's coming up.

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July 1, 2005 was the first episode of Dignation.

[A]

Dude, that's so crazy.

[B]

How? What time? It's like, it doesn't make any sense. By the way, does time go slower now that you're not drinking?

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Yes.

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Like, do you find yourself just being like, first, it's only four days. Did.

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Cause I was waiting to get to day 30 and I was like, come on.

[B]

Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

[A]

And now they say day 30. I'm like, eh, whatever, you know. Yeah, it's going faster now, which is good.

[B]

You just run it downhill to the next beer. No champers. I need the champers.

[A]

I'm excited. Daria's still drinking.

[B]

Okay, so what? So tell me about your teeth.

[A]

Oh, well, we've got. We can come to the teeth. But that's my kind of my first story.

[B]

We can come to the teeth. Okay, well, before we get into the teeth.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

First off, if you have been watching this on YouTube and you're not subscribed, please subscribe to the YouTube channel because then you'll be able to know with his travels with me and life, you know, sometimes it's hard for us to tape on a regular schedule. We try our best, but it's the best way to find out is to hit that subscribe button because then we'll be dinged also.

[A]

Oh, you went. You got a new one.

[B]

I did.

[A]

What'd you go with? A pro. You went pro? M4.

[B]

Pro M4.

[A]

Black core?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, I just. Well, it was a. It was on sale. B, I was just thinking, okay, I gotta bring my laptop. It's old. It's. It's an intel based laptop from like 2016.

[A]

How do you feel about it?

[B]

These are slick, man.

[A]

This is your first switch to the Mac. Like fully. Fully. The first new Mac.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

For sure.

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Especially this is the first Mac laptop I've ever purchased myself. Like, everything. Well, I guess I got that air back in the day.

[A]

Anyway, you have a software update you haven't run.

[B]

I know. It just happened. I know, I know it just happened. But yeah, no, it's really great. I found that I have a weird, like, use case for it because it's not like I'm. I'm not playing video Games on it. Cause I have a gaming PC. Right.

[A]

I'm not.

[B]

Yeah, right. Literally, it's like email indignation.

[A]

Why is that a weird use case? It's like.

[B]

Well, because I got the 16 gigabyte memory, which is the base RAM, but I got the 1 terabyte storage. And I don't think people buy that because if they're gonna get a higher storage, they're usually getting higher RAM. So that was like $150 off. Oh, brand new.

[A]

Wait, do they have it in the store like that though? Oh, interesting.

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I mean, they only had three left. But also like the black is really cool. It's great.

[A]

It's that midnight color, right? Or something like that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's good.

[B]

Anyway, so I thought that would be fun. Cause I got a new lap. So now I have a new dignation laptop.

[A]

That's awesome.

[B]

And maybe it will have some new dig stickers. Cause I know dig stuff is coming out.

[A]

I'm glad you guess you didn't go back to the Windows side.

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It was one of those things where I was like, I like my Mac laptop, I like my iPad, I like my iPhone. Like, there is something about that integration.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The Windows stuff for me was always gaming and desktop PC. You know what I mean? Like doing fusion things, which you still have. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of which, I need to upgrade that. Computers, you just always need to upgrade them. It's just the way of the world.

[A]

Well, I'm stoked. Welcome to the wonderful world of Mac. You should try the iPhone mirroring too, where you can get your iPhone pulled up on here. Oh, with mirroring, it's pretty cool.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then you can copy and paste from your iPhone directly to your Mac instantly. Do you know about that?

[B]

So that's one thing I will say that I don't love about the. No. The iPhone and the PC.

[A]

Yes.

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Is because sometimes you're like, oh, I just took a photo and I wanna, I wanna email it.

[A]

Right?

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But I don't want to email like this. I'm sitting at my computer or like scan a document, I have to email it to myself, download it from the email, then email.

[A]

And I'm like just airdropping it.

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It's so much easier when like, because Heather has an imac. And so like whenever Heather's like, can you do the blah blah, blah, like take a picture and just airdrop it to her Mac. And it's just so much know the ecosystem is. I get it. The ecosystem. It exists for a reason. It Exists for a reason. Well, congrats on the sobriety. Welcome back.

[A]

Thank you.

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Before we get into the show.

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Yes.

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We have a very interesting sponsor this week, and I am super excited to be the guinea pig of the two of us.

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Have you not tried this before?

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Nope.

[A]

Oh, I've tried this a ton of times.

[B]

Oh, get out.

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Really? I've used it a bunch.

[B]

So Zbiotic is here to save my next day.

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We'll see what happens.

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If there was a surefire way to get the feeling fresh after drinking with friends, it is definitely pre alcohol. So this is the Zbiotic pre alcohol probiotic drink. And it's the world's first genetically engineered probiotic, which is amazing. It was invented by a PhD student to tackle his tough morning after drinking. So here's how it works. When you are drinking, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It builds up the. It's the buildup of this byproduct, not the actual dehydration, that causes all the fuzziness and the rough day after. So pre alcohol produces an enzyme that breaks this byproduct down in your gut. Now, I'm going to. I've not tried this before. I'm going to have it now and then drink some of my lovely mascot Harlan wine. You're supposed to take it, you know, ideally take it an hour before you start drinking. I didn't have that, but I have.

[A]

A feeling I've taken it before. It works fine.

[B]

I love it. I love it. Just remember to make pre alcohol your first drink of the night. Drink responsibly and you'll feel best tomorrow. So I'm going to.

[A]

On my flight home, they had these available for people on the flight. Yeah, it was awesome. It doesn't taste like anything either. So it's not like you're gonna be like, oh, that was hard to take.

[B]

I was worried I was gonna act a little bit. I was worried that I was gonna have to be like, oh, God, this is so good. It burns. It's not actually. It tastes like maybe like lemon water.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like a light, like, spa water.

[A]

Yeah.

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[A]

I hate that. Smells so good. Let me smell it.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it's just. Hey, man. It's available for purchase at all six Walmarts. It's not at all.

[A]

Yeah, I could chug that.

[B]

You sure you just want.

[A]

I wouldn't chug it. It's quality wine.

[B]

You shouldn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You shouldn't have any, but God damn, that looks good. That smells good. I got set up by Zbiotic, so I'm going to be fine manana. I'm just going to take a little sip and then we'll move on.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you enjoy that.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Eat this.

[B]

Jesus. Anyway, so if you want to get on the allocation list, it might be a while because I don't know if they do it. I think they do it once a year or once every six months. Anyway, send the emails to dignationig.com, right? That's the great. Love it.

[A]

Awesome.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

All right. So first story of the day, and I've been waiting. I've been sitting on this one.

[B]

I'm so excited.

[A]

Waiting for this.

[B]

I'm so excited. You've been sitting on it like my pillow.

[A]

So we know Google I o. Came out, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You saw flow.

[B]

I did see Flo.

[A]

Have you seen the baby? Plastic baby?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, my God. Okay. That one we might have to watch, but I. I paid for the crazy expensive model.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's like 200 bucks a month.

[B]

Okay. I like this.

[A]

I got access to flow and I started creating. I was on the. I had over an hour commute to get here because of the freaking traffic.

[B]

And it started raining. We're in Los Angeles. What are you doing?

[A]

And I'm.

[B]

Check yourself.

[A]

I'm in there. And I'm like. I'm just like. I'm just gonna make some props.

[B]

Okay.

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Some prompts, like, just, you know, prompt.

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Engineering on the go.

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On the go. Just so we can, like, try it out.

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Flow it.

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I will say flow is so if people don't know, you can type in A prompt. It will give you, like, this beautiful video back. With audio.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And I was like, I have, like, a 0 for 10. Like, I have a horrible prompt skill.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Okay, so here. First of all, I want to show you. Don't look yet. Don't look at.

[B]

I'm gonna look at them. I'm gonna watch on the monitor. So that's why I look like I don't know what I'm doing. So what I'm doing.

[A]

This one didn't come with audio, so sometimes it doesn't come with audio. This is us.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Ripped. I am ripped. Okay, now, why do I look like.

[B]

An old condo salesman?

[A]

Hold on. So it's supposed to have audio, but it doesn't. I told it that we're done with the show, and we fold up our laptops into small little laptops, and then.

[B]

We ate it like a sandwich.

[A]

Yes. And then we.

[B]

Too much mussels on you. That's why we ate it like sandwiches. But I don't know why.

[A]

It's just like, it had no audio.

[B]

Okay. Oh, my God.

[A]

And I'm like, okay, well, that was my mistake. And then I was like, okay, well.

[B]

What if I really do look like I sell condos in Boca and, like, timeshares in Boca.

[A]

And then I made this one. Watch this.

[B]

Oh, my God, I'm so excited.

[A]

Alex, you know what sounds good to me right now?

[B]

Oh, my God, I'm so scared. Why would you. Alex. Did she just suck off an IO port? So I told her, first off, why are there two identical ones? Hold on, hold on.

[A]

So this one, first off, this is.

[B]

Fucking scary as shit. If that was, like, a video sent in from a fan, I'd be like, oh, my God, this gorgeous fan is. And then all of a sudden, she's eating this. I told her Superman 3.

[A]

I told her that she was to say, alex, you know what sounds good to me right now? And then she'd smile and pull out a 1980s modem from her mouth.

[B]

And then she was the exact opposite.

[A]

And then you would start hearing modem sounds coming out of her mouth.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And it was like. But it was like a whistle. Sounds good to me right now. That's not a modem.

[B]

First off. It's not correct, but it is perfect.

[A]

Okay, now, hold on, hold on. No, it gets worse.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Watch this one. Alex, do you remember Renault? Okay, first of all, that was supposed to be Reno. Okay?

[B]

I was like, does this have to do with my kitchen remodel? This Is amazing. Kevin so smart. Do you remember Reno?

[A]

I sure do.

[B]

What? What?

[A]

Okay, okay. Did you just put metal teeth? I told her to take her dentures out, and. And she somehow put them in so.

[B]

It sounds like the AI can only put.

[A]

Remember Renault?

[B]

I sure do.

[A]

She remembers Renault.

[B]

By the way, that sound is so disgusting. I know the sound it made when she put in her dentures. There's more.

[A]

This is Mew Me on the couch. Watch.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Why did the computer go to therapy? Why?

[B]

Because it couldn't stop downloading attachments.

[A]

Why did. Because it couldn't stop.

[B]

I mean, look, consider the laughing. I mean, he nailed me. He nailed me.

[A]

Look at my arms, though, dude.

[B]

First off, there's no world in which you didn't write.

[A]

I did not. I said make it look like Kevin Rose. No. Okay, hold on, hold on.

[B]

Maybe they watched that last episode when they were like. Well, Kevin Rose is not usually that.

[A]

Okay, hold on.

[B]

All right, here we go. By the way, this is. I'm just going to say, like, honestly, this is scary. I know, because you could have sent that video. You could have massaged that video and sent it to Heather or, like, accidentally emailed it to Heather and she would have a conversation. Well, that's funny you should say me.

[A]

Ruining your conversation with this. Exactly.

[B]

Let's watch the video tape.

[A]

And here we go. Alex, I'm not real, but I'd love to be your AI girlfriend, and I'm ready for some Windows PC action like DOS prompt. Y' all feel me? Alex, I'm not real, but I have to be your AI girlfriend, and I'm.

[B]

Ready for some dosh.

[A]

You meant to say dosh. DOS prompt. Y' all feel me?

[B]

First off, we all know it's pronounced DOS prompt. Y Feel me?

[A]

I don't know why she said like, like it like that. So that one didn't talk. Okay, this one. This one. It didn't do well. I apologize.

[B]

I apologize. You are manipulating the prompt, sir.

[A]

Fear. Watch this. Welcome to the show. I don't know why you did that. I love beer. First off, weirdest thing ever.

[B]

This is. First off, what is the show? Ah, it's the show.

[A]

Ah, I love beer. It is just really strange. That one was a very weird one. This one I thought was pretty good.

[B]

Alex, I'm not real, but I'd love to be your AI girlfriend.

[A]

The only problem is, I don't think Heather would like me. Do you?

[B]

Alex, I'm your AI girlfriend. Wait, wait, wait.

[A]

The problem is, I don't think Heather would like me. Do you?

[B]

And that sounds like Alison Haysliff. Okay, so here's the weirdest thing.

[A]

Here's what I told her. I said in this prompt that when she said, I don't think Heather would like me, she was supposed to smile. Now look at her mouth right here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And her grill. What? She didn't have braces. I told her to have a gold grill that says Alex on it. Oh. And so she. That was supposed to be a grill right there, if you take a look at that video. But it's kind of just jacked up teeth.

[B]

No, it looks like braces.

[A]

It looks like braces. Yeah, it looks like braces. So I didn't quite get that one right. And this is my last one here. This is the first one I started with.

[B]

Welcome to Dig Nation. Oh, my God, Kevin, behind the scenes look. What? Welcome to Dig Nation. What?

[A]

I'm gonna give you a behind the scenes look.

[B]

Were you supposed to have the mask on?

[A]

I said pull off the mask to show a skeleton. So, like, take off my.

[B]

Take off your skin?

[A]

Yeah, take off my skin.

[B]

And instead he was like, here's my Covid mask.

[A]

So. But here's what you do. So, yeah, I would say here. Okay, first of all, I said two podcasts singing, one with spiky yellow hair and one with brown hair, both in their late 40s. The one with yellow hair, it was just clears that out.

[B]

Uh huh. Yeah, yeah, you show everybody.

[A]

I said it's a bit overweight. He's a little overweight. Okay, hold on.

[B]

And the other one happens to be shredded like a professional wrestler.

[A]

Shredded, ripped with a black T shirt on.

[B]

Oh, my God. I did.

[A]

Okay, hold on. You did get that right. The one with red says, welcome to the nation. The other one, the other says, I'm going to give you beyond the same. Then pulls his face mask to reveal a skeleton head. So I'm pulling his face off his flesh to reveal a skeleton head. And so now if I hit that, then it will compute it and then we'll see here in a couple minutes. But isn't this weird?

[B]

Honestly, that is the first. I mean, look, it's obviously I've been like, oh, yeah, this is going to be a problem. You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But seeing that with that attractive young lady saying, alex, I hope Heather's not going to mind. I could be your girlfriend. Like that just makes me go, oh, people are going to get fucked up over this. You know what I mean? Like. Like people are good. Because you send that to the Wrong person. Somebody who's, like, slightly insecure about their relationship. Maybe they have a fear that someone's spending too much time on their computer, playing video games, talking to other people. To then have somebody like that show up and say, hey, I'd like to be your AI girlfriend.

[A]

I know that's gonna cause all kinds of issues.

[B]

That could get spicy.

[A]

Look at this lady.

[B]

Spicy. Ugh.

[A]

I made this one.

[B]

Yes. Just right. Just right, Jack. Just right, Jack.

[A]

I know I was supposed to say just right. Yes, just right. Just right. Isn't that weird? And so I wanted her to say that. And then I wanted her to pour the soup on her head. And this is what she ended up doing. Watch this. So I. I asked her to pour the soup on her head. Wait, that's not the right one. Hold on, hold on. This gets really weird. So I think it's this one. So she was supposed to take the soup and pour it on her head. Here it is. Here it is. Here it is.

[B]

Here it is. Yeah, yeah. This is the.

[A]

The ultimate. Watch this.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Oh, she starts.

[B]

She starts to pick it up.

[A]

She's like.

[B]

I. I've had soup sweating out of my head this whole time.

[A]

Oh, my God. It is so creepy. Try this one. Yes. Just right. Just like that.

[B]

Yes. Oh, my God. Kevin. Kevin, you're too easy, man.

[A]

I'm just trying the different things.

[B]

I just tested it out. I'm just doing that for you guys. I'm testing it, but it's so weird.

[A]

So you didn't see the plastic baby?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I mean, I'm sure maybe I did in passing. It's a plastic baby. Come on.

[A]

No, you didn't. Okay.

[B]

So many plastic baby.

[A]

Last thing I gotta show you. Cause the plastic baby is worth watching. And in. You haven't seen any of these about the prompts? The prompt people?

[B]

Oh, no, I've seen that. Okay, so that the one where they're like two people come running up and they're like. We're in the. We're. We're. We exist in the same thing. Oh, my God.

[A]

Okay, this one. Watch this. This is the weirdest thing ever.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

The reason I don't like it is because it's the too real. What? Studies have revealed that microplastics are being.

[B]

Found in human test now.

[A]

Have you seen this? You can never trust these studies. Male reproductive health.

[B]

Oh, I have seen this.

[A]

You did see this one?

[B]

Oh, I totally have.

[A]

Okay, so you saw. With the gunshots and everything and how he goes crazy.

[B]

No, no, no. That Was just. That was okay. That was where I stopped. I was hungry.

[A]

This is all with that tool. That's it.

[B]

Keep going.

[A]

Well, you're so lucky. He's naturally buoyant and you don't have to watch him.

[B]

Is it Bob?

[A]

No, he.

[B]

He doesn't need.

[A]

At first, I was like. I was like, oh, this is cute. Yeah, right? And I was like, oh, this is going to great. Unlock so much creativity, and it's so sweet. It's like a Pixar film. Yeah, it's all innocent.

[B]

Bob, you're leaving? Bob can't play. If he gets hit, he'll dent. Don't let plastic end up in landfills.

[A]

Reduce, reuse, recycle. I was like, aw, Pixar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hold on. What the hell was that?

[B]

That's the new commercial for plastic. We think if we humanize plastic, people won't think it's so bad. Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. It made me uncomfortable. Yeah.

[B]

I just felt bad for it.

[A]

Marketing approved that. No, we fired marketing. I feel like it's missing action. Yeah. Maybe there could be, like, a chase or a shootout. Explosions. Explosions. Maybe the Matrix thing. Maybe his plastic gets stronger as he gets older. Maybe he gets revenge, you know, to the people that were mean to him. He's got a gun.

[B]

Who?

[A]

Bob from marketing. Cover me. I'll get to the side.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Get down, get down.

[A]

It's Bob from marketing.

[B]

It's Bob from marketing. Yeah.

[A]

It's amazing.

[B]

Amazing. The Matrix thing. Bob from marketing. Only on Fox.

[A]

Now that's what I'm talking about. So that whole first half was like a. An origin story, right?

[B]

Should we greenlight it?

[A]

Yes, but not for tv. Put it on social media where it can go viral.

[B]

What?

[A]

All right, let's get back to work. Isn't that weird?

[B]

That is so, so weird.

[A]

It's so weird. And that's the problem. I just think these things are gonna.

[B]

Get weirder and weirder. I mean, they are gonna get weirder and weirder. The good news is, today it still has that, like, funky feeling in your face.

[A]

No, that's not good news. It makes me feel weird.

[B]

No, that's a good thing, because you know it's fake. What I'm saying is, the problem will come when it feels like that chick who's saying, hey, Alex, remember Reno feels like, oh, who the is this?

[A]

Well, I could make it like that. Like I. I made it.

[B]

Oh, you made it do stuff. Yeah. Can you upload images, like, for, like.

[A]

Continuity across multiple shots? Yes. Like, render like, this is me. This is Alex. Exactly. So, yeah, so that's a great question. So I can take this right here, and I can say, add this to a scene. And I can click this button and say, extend this. Extend the scene. It says, what should happen next? Blond hair, guy drinks a beer. And then the highest quality. Yes. We can just make it low quality, just to make it go fast. Then you extend it, and now it's adding to that whole thing. So you can create the entire timeline, and you can drag these around, and then you can take a single frame from it and say, use this frame of an entirely new shot to keep character continuity, which is crazy. That's how they did that whole multi. So you can create a whole film out of this. It's really bizarre.

[B]

Dude, this is nuts. This is. This is 100% nuts.

[A]

Yeah. So anyway, that was my first story.

[B]

Well, I mean, that's. Well, okay. Well, that's great. Flowing into the next story. How about Human Artists Making human Amazing things. So my first story is Predator, Killer of Killers. First reactions. Call it the best movie in the franchise. So, like, anybody that's, you know, sponsored by something, and you want to make sure that everybody knows that it's true. My good friend Dan Drachtenberg made Killer of Killers. It's a new Predator animated anthology movie dropping on hulu this Friday, June 6th. And I got to go to a screening.

[A]

Oh, how was it?

[B]

A cast crew screening. It is so much better than. I mean, I guess I sort of knew it was gonna be great, you know what I mean? Because I love to pray. And, I mean, I know Dan, and I'd seen some stuff, and. And really, the fun thing is, I'm actually in this one.

[A]

You're in this movie?

[B]

Yeah. So wait, that's not it. This is it. This is Killer of Killers? Yeah.

[A]

Oh, crazy. This was animated.

[B]

Oh, yeah. But it's all done in Unreal Engine, and it spans across different time periods. It's so good, dude.

[A]

Amazing.

[B]

Oh, dude, that. The Japanese one. Oh, my God. It's freaking crazy. And I will tell you right now, like, this is as predator as it gets. Like, you can. They can do a lot of good. I mean, look at that. Come on. Like, it is just gnarly.

[A]

So they made this all in Unreal?

[B]

Yeah, it's all done in Unreal Engine. I budget for this, I'm assuming a lot.

[A]

What's it called?

[B]

Prey. Oh, sorry.

[A]

Predator.

[B]

Killer of Killers. But Dan's been working on it for ages. I finally got to see it, but so here's how I ended up in the movie and a couple places where you might be able to see me if you're smart. So Dan's doing this movie, me and a couple of friends, Jeff from trs, my buddy Jerry, my buddy Reza. We are away on a little boys trip. We do like a guy's weekend periodically. And Dan was like, hey, guys, there is a sequence which is in, as you saw in the trailer. Cause I've been holding this story because I was like, I'm gonna wait until the trailer is out. But there's a sequence in World War II with fighter jets. And he was like, I would love it if you guys came in and did like the, you know, like the Red leader, stay on target. I can't get them off. I can't shake them. You know what I mean? Like just the little, like mishigas, like little stuff between the thing. So we're all like, that'd be so cool. Oh, my God, this is gonna be great. Now I'm thinking we're gonna go in and it's gonna be Dan and the four of us just hanging around. He's gonna be like, here's. Give me one where it's like, oh, I can' where did he go? You know what I mean? I was like, this is gonna be easy, fun a day with Dan, right? I get an email that's like, hey, we want you to record this stuff. Are you available on, you know, next Thursday? I happen to be going to Serbia and Italy. Serbia for work? Italy for fun. And so I was like, oh, I'm out of town. But I was like, I didn't think it was going to be that big of a deal. So I was like, I could just record it. Like, just tell me what you want. I mean, I can record on my iPhone, you know, whatever. And they were like, oh, okay, sorry, it's not gonna work out. And I was like, oh, well, that sucks. You know what I mean? Like, I was kinda looking forward to it, but also, whatever, it's Dan's, you know, it was gonna be just a weird, fun thing. Cut to three weeks later, four weeks later, I get an email from the same person that's like, hey, there's gonna be a session. Can you come in tomorrow or the next day? And I was like, yeah, yeah, that'd be fun. And so I have no idea what it is. I'm assuming it's just me going in. And they're like, oh, your dance friend here, he wants you to scream these lines. Or like, say, this Thing. I get this breakdown and it's like World War II stuff that's like, oh, no, you know, I heard my side. You know, just standard mishigas.

[A]

Like, are you, like an extra in it?

[B]

So the long story is yes, but the other, the continuation of the long story is there's the World War II stuff and then there's all this Norse Viking stuff, which is just gibberish because it's in ancient Norse.

[A]

Oh, so you have to make it up.

[B]

Well, no. So I went. I mean, gibberish, to me, it's written in ancient Norse. So I go, oh, I must just be doing, like. They must want me to do, like, oh, the Flight Deck 4 commander. You know what I mean? Checking in. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I show up thinking it's going to be just me and.

[A]

You don't arse. Norse. That's not like a native language for you?

[B]

No, I don't know any native languages besides English, and I barely know that. So I show up and there's like 10 people there, 10 other performers. It's like a thing. We're in this giant audio session area with, like, multiple microphones, all these stuff set up.

[A]

It's like a real production.

[B]

It's like a real production. I'm like, oh, okay. And I'm assuming everybody knows that I'm there because I know Dan, and there's a guy named Bjorn there who's like, literally, like, translating the Norse and talking to the director or the audio director about, like, what that means. And, well, we want to have him say row. And he was like, whoa, be like this. And so I'm just sitting there going, at some point, they're going to be like, hey, Dan's friend, say these two English lines. And so I go, okay. So we all go in and get set up. And I'm like, in, like, headphones.

[A]

I've got a microphone around you because you're doing it all.

[B]

Somebody's right next to me. There's like a plexiglass thing behind between me. There's a giant screen with the video looping, like, all this stuff. And then there's a iPad with all these zoom people, like the producer and all this stuff. And so I was like, okay. So I'm just sitting there and I've got my little sheet, and I'm waiting for them to say this, and they're like, okay. And the guy goes, okay, so we're gonna do the Viking stuff first. And everybody's like, oh, yeah, that's a smart idea. I mean, there's like 10 of us on these little screens. The Viking stuff, that's good. And the guy goes, so, Bjorn, let's cue up the one line. And he was like, okay. And he's like, so we'll go, bjorn, yeah, maybe do it a couple different times. Maybe three times through. And then Matt, who's British and speaks, like, fluent German, fluent French, like, he's got the accents down. He's like, matt, we'll have you do three or four takes. And then Alex, we'll have you do three or four takes. And I'm just sitting there. And I go, okay. And I was like, these fucking guys think I speak Icelandic because I'm blonde hair and blue eyes. I was like, I don't fucking know what the hell is happening. So Bjorn goes. And he's like. And I'm like.

[A]

You'Re writing it down?

[B]

Yeah, I'm trying to, like, write it down. This is gonna come to me. Yeah, yeah. And so the guy. So he does it three times. And I'm like, oh, it's Gordon Fur. Yeah, that makes sense. Then Matt goes, you're like, great. That's great. Okay, Alex. And they do. And I'm looking at, like, this big giant Viking. And it's like. And I'm like, Vernon Gear. And Bjorn's like, oh, that was great.

[A]

No way.

[B]

I did a whole fucking half day. You didn't even know. Speaking Ancient Nordic and if you watch the movie, in the opening shot of the movie, it pans through this boat and ends on this big Nordic guy, like, yelling at people and saying a thing. And I'm watching the screening and I go, that's fucking me.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I was like, I totally remember recording that audio.

[A]

Now, were you that person the entire show, or did they put other pictures?

[B]

No, no, no. It was just this one guy that somehow the line wasn't right. And so they were like, we need somebody to fix it. Cause we're just doing loops. But the other thing that's super fun is there's like a whole big giant battle sequence. So I'm fucking. I'm one of the guys who's getting their ass kicked. So I'm like, oh, my God, I had so much fun. And you can definitely tell it's me. But in the World War II section, there is a guy who gets pulled out of an aircraft through the back of the aircraft. And that's all I'm gonna say about that very clearly. My death.

[A]

Flame swim. Okay, your death. I thought you, like, snuck in, like.

[B]

No, it was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was me. I'm like at the back of the plane and it's so clearly. It's so fun. Anyway, but the movie itself is fantastic. If you are a Predator fan, you have to see it. I mean, if you're a non animated fan, like, if you don't like animation, but you're a Predator fan, you got to watch it.

[A]

Is this online or theaters or what?

[B]

It's on Hulu.

[A]

Hulu.

[B]

So this one's going to Hulu. Dan also is currently finishing up production on Badlands, which has been announced. That was the other thing. We also did Predator language chanting while we were doing the session. And so we did, like, chanting and they ended up using the chanting in the trailer for Badlands. So it's really hard to hear. You can. You would never be able to tell it's me, but it is me saying words like yauta.

[A]

Oh, dude, that's amazing.

[B]

And Killer of Killers.

[A]

This is so cool.

[B]

It's great. It's so fun.

[A]

Anyway, how does this work?

[B]

Like, super excited.

[A]

Just out of curiosity.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, do you. Because I know in like, movies, like, if you're an extra or you do something, you get like, royalties and all that. Is it in today's, like, streaming environment, is that still the thing?

[B]

So that's a. It's sort of a bigger question about how acting payments used to happen and how they currently happen. And it's really been interesting because I've been involved in that sort of transition. So essentially what happened, the sort of, like, quick version of it is SAG is the Screen Actors Guild, which is the union for movies and television that are shot on film, which is very specific. And then there's aftra, which is the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. So, like, soap operas were covered, like, daytime talk shows were covered by aptra, soap operas were covered by aftra. A lot of the radio shows were covered by aftra. And the delineation they made early between the two unions was SAG is used if it's shot on film, like actual film. And after is used if it's shot actual film. Everything's digital, right? Well, they didn't know this back in the 80s when they made the delineation, they went, if you're shooting on digital media, that's an after program. If you're shooting on film, is that after you. So it became an issue. I think Modern Family might have been one of the main ones that sort of did it, which was. SAG had a lot of big minimums for television shows. So, like, if you were a sick. And they were pretty substantial, so, like, if you were a sitcom actor, you would get something. I think the SAG minimum at the time in the, like, late 90s was sort of around like $36,000 an episode, but you're shooting 26 episodes over the course of a season, and you get.

[A]

Like, money when it gets in place.

[B]

And every time it aired, you would get another version of that check.

[A]

Smaller.

[B]

First it would be the same, then it would start going down.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

Same with commercials. Right? So it was very lucrative.

[A]

You could make, like, hundreds of thousands off a single episode easily. Oh, wow, that's insane.

[B]

Yeah. And by the way, when you went in to sell this stuff into syndication, that's why a lot of the television shows had big celebratory parties at 100 episodes. Because when you hit 100 episodes, you could package the show and sell it to syndication, which is like selling it to the local NBC affiliate in Des Moines and in New York and in New Jersey. And then that would become way more money back to the actors and performers. So everybody wanted to get to that 100 episode mark. Anyway, Aptra had much lower minimums. Right. Because it's not Friends or Cheers, it's daytime talk show. Right. You know what I mean, Maury Povich. So what happened was shows like Modern Family realized, hey, digital video is fine. But if we use digital video, there's a loophole here. We can have this be an AFTRA program, not a SAG program, so we can save money on residuals and all that stuff. All that stuff kind of got figured out. They ended up merging. The two unions merged, but at the same time, things like our show came out. Well, what does SAG do? I'm a SAG actor. They wanted to make sure they got their piece, so they created this thing called the New Media Agreement, which was not minding. So, like, you didn't have to have a new media agreement, but they would want you to use a new media agreement. But the new media agreement was, hey, if it's streaming and not being aired on a television network, you can pay them. Completely garbage. Because we just want to get into the game.

[A]

Oh, because they didn't think so.

[B]

What they didn't think was, what about something called Netflix?

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

So when Netflix started coming out and started doing their own shows, they didn't have to use SAG or aptra, big television agreements. They could do new media agreements. So all this stuff just got completely kludged because the unions Weren't able to see. I mean, nobody really was at that point, really being like, this is going to be a big deal. Like, Internet television is going to become a big giant thing. Because they were thinking of it more like YouTube channels. You know what I mean? They weren't thinking of it like, well, what if Amazon starts streaming content?

[A]

They probably have like no rights in there for AI. Like, they're never thinking that far.

[B]

100%. I mean, that's was the big strike. Was that somebody in the Writers Guild? Somebody was like, but what about AI? And they were like, oh, God. And then that was. Why the strike? Yeah, why the strike was so bad. Anyway, so can we pull video real.

[A]

Quick of the laptop? Real quick. Just, just out of curiosity, I was. Why were you. While you were talking. Okay, that's a wrap. Shows over. I've never watched it.

[B]

Okay. I mean, that's basically what happened. I. I can, I can redo that. That is. That's actually a pretty decent predator. Yeah, that's not bad.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[B]

It's not armored, but that is pretty good. Dude, that was.

[A]

That was like in 20 seconds.

[B]

Oh, my God. Dude, this is the thing. AI. It's like when midjourney came out and everybody was doing like the cartoon version of themselves for like an hour.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, it's so fun how the novelty hits. And then it's like, but where's the application going to be? Because I definitely think there's going to be applications for this. I 100% feel like if you're a student filmmaker or a young filmmaker, to be able to just make animatics of scenes that you can just show actors and be like, this is what we're shooting today.

[A]

Well, I haven't tried to do any animation with it. That's interesting, bro.

[B]

Okay, cartoon version.

[A]

Yeah, let's do the cartoon version of that.

[B]

Yeah, just write. Make the cartoon version.

[A]

Okay. This is a cartoon of.

[B]

And run.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

Look at that. Boom. See? Co directing.

[A]

Look at that.

[B]

Co directing.

[A]

You get 10% of the royalties.

[B]

Yeah, but I'm telling you, like, seriously, I know he's my bud, but like, everybody should watch it. It comes out Friday.

[A]

That's awesome. Were you a loot group?

[B]

So it was a loop group.

[A]

It's one of the most sought after.

[B]

Positions because not only are you.

[A]

You step in for loop groups of.

[B]

People in the background.

[A]

Like at restaurants where they're mouthing things but they can't say anything for audio. But then the loop group comes in and they're just.

[B]

They're all in a room, in an.

[A]

ADR room, filling in the words.

[B]

Like, Kevin and Alex, we're over there having a conversation, whatever.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're the wallet.

[A]

Like, just the words that you can't really hear, but it's filling the soundtrack. But they step in for like 45 minutes or so. And they get paid like they're. Or three day minimum of SAG wages.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And what happened traditionally is producers would get their wives into loot groups. Oh, crazy.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Just double dip. It is the least amount of work.

[B]

For a full SAG page. It is really a sort of like. It's sort of this, like, still unspoken of area of acting. I will say it was some of the most fun acting that I have done in my life.

[A]

Will you do more of it now that you've done this?

[B]

So, yeah, because I connected with the guys that run the Luke group and they were like, dude, you're. This is great. Like, you were great. Because at lunch I was like, this is really fun. And they were like, what do you mean? And I was like, like, doing this. Like, this was really fun. And they were like, you haven't done this before? And I was like, no. And they were like, dude, it seems like you've done this a bunch. But, like, the full big giant fight scene is. Was so fun because they were like, okay, Alex, you'll be the guy who comes running up and hits and then gets stabbed in the gut. And I'm like, okay, you know, Bill, you'll be the guy who runs up and does this. And then they're like, okay, 1, 3, 2, 1, go. And then you're like. And then the next guy comes up and is like. Cause they're not. The actors who did the voices are not gonna sit there for half a day. Just scream. Right, right, I will. And it was so much fun.

[A]

That is awesome.

[B]

Yeah, there's like a guy that burns on a fire. That was me perfectly, 100%. And that's why I was able to nail. That's why I think they used my voice for the Viking guy, because they had already fully animated him. He's already done.

[A]

The mouth has to match up.

[B]

The mouth has to match up. The emo. Like, the feeling of what he's doing has to match up. And I just happened to nail it a couple times and nailed it a little bit better than they had, like, two other guys trying to do it too. And they probably didn't even know it was me. They just were in the booth with These lists of audios. And they went, yeah, that one's fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's super cool because it's like literally, like within two minutes of the movie, I'm like sitting there with Heather.

[A]

I was like, that was so cool. I love it.

[B]

Super fun. Anyway, congrats, Dan.

[A]

Yeah, congrats.

[B]

Sure. We'll be seeing more of you.

[A]

Very cool.

[B]

Soon. Where are we? That's you.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Add to my friend.

[A]

Yes. Next. If I click out of this window, it will kill the.

[B]

It will kill my people.

[A]

Will kill the rendering that I'm doing. No, that's good.

[B]

What happened? Did you kill the people?

[A]

I went full screen. They're still alive. All right.

[B]

Okay. They're good. They're good, they're good.

[A]

All right, next up, Monarch. Money.

[B]

Ooh, I like money.

[A]

This is. This is actually awesome that we got Monarch to do a sponsor. Thank you, Monarch, because it's a no brainer. I've been using Monarch for a long time now. I've been always a fan of these kind of different applications. I've tried over the years to manage, like, budget and just see all of your kind of holistic overview of all the things that are going on, whether you should set up an account, credit card, expenses. Dude, it's the best. I'll tell you why it's so awesome. And this is not like their copy, but I should probably talk about the copy. But why, why it's so awesome is that they have shared partner accounts.

[B]

Oh, perfect.

[A]

So you can add in your partner and then they can help you with this stuff. I had no idea how much I was spending for me personally on Blue Bottle because Blue Bottle is a guilty pleasure because I love these little things. They have these things called blondies. You ever had one of those blondies there?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's like this little tiny, tasty treat. Has a lot of butter in it with like a little sea salt on top. Oh, it's food. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It goes good with your coffee. It's like almost like a little coffee.

[B]

It's like a soft biscotti.

[A]

Oh, it's so good.

[B]

All right, I'm trying to.

[A]

It shows you trends over time. Exactly. It shows you trends over time. It is. I've tried them all. I won't mention their competitors, but I truly believe that Monarch is the best one out there. Monarch puts all your accounts, everything, your cards, investments, all in one place. It's built for busy lives. It has AI built in. So it auto categorizes stuff. It's simple, it's powerful. And it actually works. Head on over to monarch.com and use the code Digg to get control of your finances with Monarch money. And you get 50% off your first year. That's monarchmoney.com code dig. Thank you for sponsoring because you are an awesome product. Oh, my God, it animated.

[B]

Oh, my God, it animated. All right, here we go. Here we go. This is us.

[A]

This is animated. I can't believe we're like building a show while building a show. Here we go.

[B]

Okay, that's a wrap.

[A]

Show's over.

[B]

Oh, I was like, please. I was like, please.

[A]

Like, you're just like. I was like.

[B]

I got a question.

[A]

Look at my abs.

[B]

Look my abs. Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I just love this.

[A]

Crap shows over.

[B]

I know. Thankfully. By the way, that's how I'm going to say goodbye to you today. Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm spitting over everything. This is amazing.

[B]

All right, well, first off, speaking of things that we use ourselves and that are sponsoring us, that we're very happy to be sponsored by NordVPN. I talked about this last episode. Big thanks for them to supporting the show and helping you stay safer online. If you've been thinking about getting a VPN and you just want more control over your online privacy, this is the best deal that NORDVPN has offered anywhere. Which is amazing. Cause we love these guys. When you use the link nordvpn.com digdig you'll get a huge discount on a two year plan. Plus you'll get four free months, completely free. Also, you don't have to worry about it. They have a 30 day money back guarantee. 100% money back guarantee, 30 days. If you don't like it, it's risk free. I will say for me personally, I'm a huge Anglophile. I love rugby, like I mentioned last time, but I also love all of the amazing British television shows and content. And having a VPN makes it so much easier to access. It's honestly, go with God. Go get it. It's great. And it's super cheap for you right now. NordVPN.com all right, story three.

[A]

All right, story three. Apple is jumping straight to iOS 26.

[B]

What?

[A]

They're going to iOS 26 is their next release.

[B]

This is like an April Fool's.

[A]

It's not April Fools. So they're doing yearly releases.

[B]

Whoa. Okay, yeah.

[A]

Remember like word 95 and shit.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Windows 95.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, like stuff like that.

[B]

Yeah, got it.

[A]

They're going to So I think they're not saying why they're making this change, but they jump. Instead of doing iOS 19, they're going to iOS 26, which will come out in 26. In 26.

[B]

And then it'll be incremented. Like, it'll be 26, 1, 26.

[A]

Well, see, that's the whole thing. It's like, I remember when, back in the day when software vendors used to do this, like, there was, like, word 97 or whatever it was, they could never keep up with the next year.

[B]

Yeah, I get that.

[A]

Because they would fall behind. And then you felt like you were running old software.

[B]

Yeah, because it was like 1000 already. What am I doing on Word 98?

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though it was the most current.

[A]

Word, I just don't like this. I feel like what this is. I know exactly what's happening. So this is my. This is my gut. My gut is telling me that inside of Apple, they lost. They're getting their asses kicked in. AI Siri sucks, for sure.

[B]

Apple Intelligence sucks. It's a button on my phone that I only ever look down and it's like, look at this. Siri's doing. It's not. Stop Siri.

[A]

Now it's even kicking in.

[B]

Stop my phone. Stop my butt. Don't. My phone. Don't. My butt.

[A]

It did say butt on there.

[B]

Cause it knows what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, every time I see the little button on the thing and my screen's pulsating, I'm like, oh. Accidentally hit the button that I never use.

[A]

And then it's like, the best it can do is actually ask ChatGPT to do it for us.

[B]

Right. Which takes longer.

[A]

It's a nightmare. Anyway. They miss the boat. They'll catch up. They have billions and billions and trillions and billions of dollars.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not crying for Apple, but I.

[A]

Will say, I think what happened is they're like, okay, how do we. This seems like a big company thing. Like, how do we go to yearly releases? Because we gotta, like, motivate the engineers. Like, every year we ship, when we ship fast. You see what I'm saying?

[B]

Totally.

[A]

That's totally what they're doing. They're totally serious because they're like, we gotta, like, make sure that we push. The software engineers break it and ship it. Every. Every year we ship something new. I'm telling you, they're gonna miss a year. They'll get 26.

[B]

Six of cool. But they better. I mean, but also, what.

[A]

It'll be underwhelming stuff. Yeah.

[B]

I was gonna say, what's. You know, you could just make 26.8. 27.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, right, like we're in. We're in 27. That's what they're doing is they're like, well, there's nothing really groundbreaking, but let's brand it 27. Welcome to the future. That's what they'll do January 27th and.

[A]

Then they'll do, by the way, micro updates.

[B]

I'm talking about 20, 23, 6.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Like, it's nothing. That's weird.

[A]

It is weird, isn't it?

[B]

For anybody my age, it's weird. Weird consumer pressure thing. Like, if you were to ask me what. What operating system, right. Like, I could probably look at the phone and tell you, but I wouldn't know if it's the latest. Like now, Right now. Like.

[A]

No, it's a great point. You kind of check two boxes at once.

[B]

That's interesting. Yeah.

[A]

Because I don't know what iOS I'm running.

[B]

I know it's 18, but I don't know why I know that.

[A]

You know what, what Mac OS it is.

[B]

Oh, fuck. No, I just got this thing. I mean, it's the best. It's the newest. I just bought it.

[A]

It's Sequoia 15.4.

[B]

First off the names.

[A]

No.

[B]

Do you know how many times when I'm like helping a friend out, then I'm like, what do you want? Snow leopard face? Okay. And then I have to Google like, what's the order again? And is it better than Manchester by the Sea?

[A]

How about you go into your iOS and it's a software update and it says latest or like one version behind?

[B]

Oh, you're like so good.

[A]

It looks like I'm appear to be one version behind.

[B]

That would be genius. It's like two behind. I don't know. What are the. What does it update? I don't know. I'll do it.

[A]

I need to get the new phone, apparently, because it says I'm three behind and needs new phone. Like, I should say it like, needs new phone, three behind.

[B]

I mean, they're basically doing that.

[A]

This is like such old people.

[B]

How do I know my phone's not a 12 or a 13? Grandpa, it's old. I can see it.

[A]

But there's something to that. Just like, no, it's version. You're like.

[B]

But also like, like, just say what it is. Like we all know if. If 182 is what I got and 183 is the newest, then just say this is the newest I need to know that it's 18:3. What does that, what does that even matter to me?

[A]

It's actually not a bad idea for like a, an about page on the, on the iPhone where you go there and it's like, instead of, like, listing out, like, just random specs, it says like, camera is two generations behind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're like, oh, okay, well, maybe I.

[B]

Should have newest generation. Two generations.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That's actually smart. You could do that with processors too. Like, oh, you've got the, you know.

[A]

You want to jacked up.

[B]

So I went and got our AI Guys is what's jacked up.

[A]

I mean, they're definitely jacked. It's on the bar. Where's my phone? On the bar. It's on the bar. Oh, go into the bar. So I have a.

[B]

You went to the bar?

[A]

There's a little bar right here. I got a nice little sleeve.

[B]

You know what that is?

[A]

My little sleeve. Oh, isn't that nice?

[B]

Is that just.

[A]

You don't have to have a case. It's like a nice little sleeve. Look at that.

[B]

Oh, that's actually the sleeve. That's actually nice. That's interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I tell you, because I go, I go, raw dog it. I raw dog you.

[A]

Raw dog cheese. It hits other stuff.

[B]

I don't put my keys in the pocket in the thing. I don't know not to can't, but. And by the way, I was looking at a new wallet in New York and it was, it was a little hard. And I was like, I can't put that in there with my, with my phone. Yeah, this, that's kind of nice.

[A]

So I will tell you.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

Listen, I'm going to, I'm going to talk about it. No, no, no. I, I, this is a brand that I think is, It's.

[B]

What phone is this?

[A]

Slightly pricey. That's what I got, the new phone. This is the E. This is the E version. Like, what's the E? I don't know what that is.

[B]

Economical, maybe.

[A]

Efficiency. So I got this new phone because my other one, I got a crack in it and kind of dropped it. It wasn't working. And I picked this one up and I was going to get the last version of the phone because it's a little bit smaller than the current version.

[B]

Yep, yep.

[A]

The Pro is.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Tiny bit smaller.

[B]

15 Pro or 15 Pro?

[A]

Yeah, I'll get the 15. Because, like, why not? I don't care. It said no Apple Intelligence support, and I'm like, Dude, that's some bullshit. Are you telling me the last phone.

[B]

Can'T run Apple can't process it?

[A]

I'm not buying that shit. Yeah, exactly. There's no.

[B]

It doesn't even work. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It'd be one thing if it was, like, super computationally intense. It's like. It doesn't even work.

[B]

Do you mean se?

[A]

Is it the se?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

What, my phone now? Yeah, it's. No, it's the. Let's see. IPhone. I think it's se is the se. So this one is the 16E. It's the 16E is what? This one is 16E.

[B]

Oh, so they did drop the S.

[A]

It has a crappier camera, but it is smaller. You can see it's lighter and, like, thinner.

[B]

Yeah. And it doesn't create a pocket as much. And it's great for Apple intelligence.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Oh, it is lighter.

[A]

Yeah, it is lighter.

[B]

Well, I mean, mine's a Pro Max Epic 5 16, so.

[A]

But the only thing it doesn't have, this doesn't have the magnetic connector, so.

[B]

I can't snap it to like a. Oh, that's interesting.

[A]

Yeah, that sucks. I know.

[B]

Because that's what. That's one of my favorite things anyway, this leather case. You know what, guys? You just can't have it all.

[A]

This leather case is called hard graft. G-R-A F T dot com. This is my little hidden secret is Hard Graft. It is. So this is a company that's based out of the uk. Uk. I can't remember exactly. They're somewhere in the uk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they have all these little tiny little pouches and. And little bags and like, these cool little cases and all kinds of stuff.

[B]

Oh, they have the, like, texture wool type stuff.

[A]

And it. There's my little case right there. And it is not cheap. It's not cheap, but it is high quality. But it's not also crazy expensive. So it's not like a. How much is that one?

[B]

145.

[A]

Okay. It's a little expensive. It's a little expensive.

[B]

I mean, sleeve for your phone. That looks like designer, too.

[A]

Like, if you went and got this at like a freaking, like one of those brand brands.

[B]

Burberry sleeve.

[A]

I hear you like a Hermes.

[B]

Hermes sleeve.

[A]

I mean, this would be like two.

[B]

Great. Easy, easy.

[A]

So, I mean, 143 bucks. But anyway, these things last forever. I'm spitting everywhere. I don't drink. I spit.

[B]

I don't know what's going on with the drink.

[A]

All right.

[B]

By the way, it's because you. You're like a vampire that's near a nubile child. And you're like, I'll be like, jesus, Kevin, get away. You can have your own glass.

[A]

I want it so bad.

[B]

I want it. I want it so bad.

[A]

So, anyway, apple. Thank you. I'm actually glad I'll now I'll know. What if I have the current version, 26, easy.

[B]

I mean, that is.

[A]

Reminds me of the year. If you don't know what year it is.

[B]

Oh, that's nice. I mean, yeah, 26. You're like, what year is it? By the way? That does happen.

[A]

Is that something happened before?

[B]

No. Yeah. When you're going to change over, you.

[A]

Know what year it is.

[B]

It's like, jesus Christ, what's happening, dude?

[A]

The other day, my. My kids were like, dad, how old are you? And I'm like, oh, 47. And Darius, like, did. You're 48. And like, I'm like, I took. It took two seconds, and I'm like, God damn it.

[B]

You're like, beep, boop, beep.

[A]

I know. It was an extra, bro. It wasn't even beep, boop, boop. And you're like, process.

[B]

All of a sudden, steam's coming out. It's, like, not optimized for Kevin.

[A]

Well, first of all, my house burned down in January. So when I went, my birthday was in February. I didn't. I was thinking a lot of things, and then I was just like, damn, it's going so fast.

[B]

Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Jesus Christ. Well, we're gonna be 50.

[A]

Toaster's still alive.

[B]

Yeah, Toaster.

[A]

Yeah. He's kicking ass.

[B]

Yeah. How is he now?

[A]

He's almost 16, dude.

[B]

Dude, for a big dog, that's big.

[A]

I mean, he's not big. He's like £30.

[B]

Yeah, but he's a big dog. Like, I would classify him as, like, not pleasantly cute. Well, he's not like a German shepherd.

[A]

Well, I should make an AI thing of him.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

Too much. Too much. Kevin. Buff toaster.

[A]

Oh, yeah. We're gonna be kind of cool.

[B]

Buff toaster.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But we are going to be. I love the animated predator thing. That's very fun. That's very fun. I should send that to Dan. Email that to me. I'll send it, Will. I'll be like, this is what Kevin came up with while we were talking about it on the show. But, yeah, dude, we're gonna be 50. Have you thought about what you're gonna do for your 50th birthday?

[A]

I have not. What are you gonna do? You have like, no party.

[B]

No, I have not.

[A]

So I'm gonna do. I have to do something crazy though, dude. Oh, I want to go to Antarctica.

[B]

Okay, that tracks.

[A]

Do you see what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Would you go? Would you come?

[B]

100%.

[A]

You have to get one of those vessels that like breaks through the glaciers and shit.

[B]

Yes. An icebreaker. Yes, yes.

[A]

Have you been on one?

[B]

No, but I've seen him.

[A]

Like, you like, knew what you were talking about.

[B]

I knew what it was. I know what it is. An icebreaker. Come on.

[A]

But then how amazing would it be?

[B]

Yeah, it can be. It could be a good question at a party or a.

[A]

But I don't think you call it an ice. I wouldn't know.

[B]

It's called an icebreaker.

[A]

It's an icebreaker. You get there and then they have these places where you can go and they have like amazing little like multi village connecting like little like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Tubes and.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then they have like a bar bartender and.

[B]

And it's the best.

[A]

Dude, we could. We could go on an icebreaker. Get off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like nothing's out there. Little bartender.

[B]

I mean, everything you're saying is things I want to do.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I mean, the cold is going to be.

[A]

The cold be great because you go outside and Wim Hof that like cold.

[B]

I. I would literally be sitting in there being like, you and Tim Ferriss out. Wim Hof and good luck.

[A]

You come out for a minute.

[B]

Tell me how it goes.

[A]

Come out for a minute.

[B]

Yeah. After some booze. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

[A]

Oh, absolutely.

[B]

Wim Hof myself to do.

[A]

Oh, it was toaster. I got him to do it. Like. Here we go.

[B]

Buff toaster.

[A]

I said buff toaster. I don't know if it knew what buff is. Okay, here we go.

[B]

How did it know?

[A]

What? 15 year old.

[B]

Look at that sack. Jesus, man, what is happening? That dog is ready for action. Gorgeous Flow is majestic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jesus. By the way, how does AI know to make the sack of the dog flow majestically in the park?

[A]

Extra large sack, by the way.

[B]

Please tell me it's just gonna have like a backpack.

[A]

Really strong legs and buff arms.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Okay, let's see here. You can see the fast model. Okay, There we go. We'll see what happens.

[B]

Oh, my God. This is so great. I love. This is the best.

[A]

We can just stay here for hours. You know, the cameras were.

[B]

It's literally video carry up like.

[A]

Yeah. Last year.

[B]

This is the best.

[A]

All Right. You've got all the Indian developers that are doing this on the back end with.

[B]

Oh, hey, speaking of bridge mouth. Thank you, sir.

[A]

Okay. Yes.

[B]

Next story. AI company files for bankruptcy after being exposed as 700 Indian engineers. This makes me so happy. So there was an AI startup called Builder AI. It was a London based AI product that essentially like was one of these, like Bolt, New Cursor, any of those.

[A]

Bottle making apps and stuff like that.

[B]

Basically like AI coding app. You ask it a, you prompt it and code comes back. And by the way, the crazy thing is, reportedly Microsoft backed the company with a $455 million investment.

[A]

I heard about that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so they were valuing it at.

[B]

1.5 billion, $5 billion valuation. But it turns out there was no AI under there. It literally was using that money to hire 700 Indian coders to just code as fast as they could.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then generate that code and put it back in. I know you would think, but think about it. Back in the day, AI coding wasn't so instant, right? It wasn't like, oh, I'm watching a code. This is magic. Right? Like, this has been around for a bit. So. And it got exposed. It lasted. So it lasted for eight years. So think about eight years ago, being a company that says, we're an AI coding company, we use AI, a special AI that we made. Ask a prompt. And it takes a while because AI is, you know, eight years ago, AI. You know what I mean? Like Will Smith spaghetti. And then code came back and they were like, hey, this is code. And by the way, the best part about this whole fucking thing is if the code sucks, you're like, yeah, because AI is not there yet.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

It's so great.

[A]

This is probably not gonna be the first one to come down. Like, I have a feeling people are gonna be faking a lot.

[B]

Yeah. And probably already have and people just haven't caught on. But like, this is crazy to think that, like, it's also kind of like so good. Like it's, it's such a smart way to be. Like, fuck you, AI. Like, I started an AI company, but it's actually just a bunch of people, right. Pretending to be AI to make money in the AI craze. But was so smart.

[A]

But what was the lag like in the last year like? Cause you should have been able to see the code coming back to you, like, right away.

[B]

Well, I mean, this is why I think that it all fell apart. You know what I mean? Was because they didn't say anything Specifically in this article.

[A]

Well, the guy said it was. He was. They were inflating the revenues that were fake.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And then also there was some. Now they say this is baseless, but there was also another company that they happened to be like billing to in like a vicious billing cycle.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

Back and forth to say, like, this is how much revenue we're generating. Because look, this company is charged, you know, we're working with this company, but it's actually the exact same amount for the last like four years. So now the other company came out and said, nope, this is all baseless. We were using the service.

[A]

But you see the quote, the quote is the best from the company. So this is the company that's doing the bookkeeping. They said, we are not the kind of company that is in the business of inflating revenues.

[B]

I mean, that feels like something a company that's in the business would say, right? Yeah.

[A]

Because like, it's like, why wouldn't you just be like, no, we didn't. We are not the kind of company that would do that.

[B]

Question is, are you crazy?

[A]

Right? Right. It's not like we are not the kind of company.

[B]

Yeah. We're not in the market of making fake accusations.

[A]

So check this out.

[B]

This is the best.

[A]

I asked Google.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

To make a video.

[B]

Oh, my God, this is the best. You're making all the B roll of Builder AI.

[A]

And this is what I said. I said, when they get a new order. So imagine someone comes in and says, build me an app.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

This is the moment they receive the new order. And then he's going to tell all of the engineers to get to work. Because 700 people, 700 Indian engineers see what this does.

[B]

All right, this is the best. Here we go. New query. Twitter clone, Light gradients, responsive design. Go.

[A]

Twitter clone, Twitter clone. Light gradients, responsive design, Go.

[B]

This is the best. By the way, if that's not what happened on a day to day basis at Builder AI, I'm disappointed.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Twitter Clone, Light Radiance sponsors. Go, go, go.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So good. It's like we were there.

[B]

We were there and we saw it. We saw it all happen. We saw it all happen. I just love that. This, I mean, a, it's fraud. Fraud's bad. Don't fraud.

[A]

Don't fraud.

[B]

Don't fraud.

[A]

Unless you don't get caught, then maybe.

[B]

Fraud, but also don't fraud. Would you. But don't fraud. I don't think I would fraud.

[A]

Let me ask you A real fraud question.

[B]

Okay. Specific fraud question.

[A]

Kay. You can get.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

$10 million of Bitcoin.

[B]

Okay. I'm excited.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You got my interest.

[A]

Okay. Peaked one tenth of a percent chance you get caught.

[B]

One tenth of a percent? Mm. What do I have to do?

[A]

Nothing. Just, like, you just have to give it your wallet address.

[B]

But what's the. What would I be caught doing?

[A]

Yeah. Where's the stealing? Bitcoin. Where's the moral?

[B]

Stealing?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, from somebody?

[A]

Yes. No, I'm not just giving him bitcoin.

[B]

I was like, I don't understand what the downside is.

[A]

He's doing a heist. A big heist. Yeah. Heist.

[B]

Who am I stealing?

[A]

Like, kidnapping someone off the street kind of. No, no, no, no. Like, he's just hacking in this white hat.

[B]

White hat? Yeah, white hat, white collar, fraud. Come on. Who am I stealing from?

[A]

I don't know. Some endowment.

[B]

Some endowment? No, because that means for the arts.

[A]

It's more about the chance of you getting caught. Like, is there?

[B]

I don't think so. I think for me, I would say I need to have my moral high ground, like this cushion.

[A]

That's fair. That's fair.

[B]

Need to have the height.

[A]

I don't think there's anything that could get me to do that type of. Because I have kids. You don't have kids. You could do it.

[B]

That's not the only reason. People don't do bad things, Kevin.

[A]

No.

[B]

I'm just. As a childless man myself, I'm not murdering people.

[A]

No, I get that.

[B]

Because I don't have any.

[A]

Did you hear about those heists that they're doing?

[B]

Oh, I did. Well, like that guy. Yeah. That guy got kidnapped and was being tortured for, like, 18 days.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because it was like a crypto, bro. Like all that.

[A]

Yeah. So this.

[B]

I'm glad I don't have that much. I'm glad I don't have that much.

[A]

So, I mean, we don't have to cover the. But we can cover the story where.

[B]

This is my favorite.

[A]

Somebody got freaking kidnapped and held for like, a week to try and get the bitcoin keys.

[B]

So crazy.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

18 days. Tortured for the bitcoin keys, by the way. This is the thing. I'm so excited. I just happened to look at my cameras. Well, and I just happened to look at my cameras because I saw, like, a notification, like, some. You know, and I was like, oh, our gate's open. Why is our gate open? It shouldn't be open. And I can fucking close it. So I'm worried about my bitcoin.

[A]

You have all your bitcoin in your house, which I've told you not to do.

[B]

I do. It's in my house. I'm just kidding. Oh, come on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Also, it's not that much bitcoin. Don't worry about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, next story.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Oh, Viori. Look at that. See that? Next story. Viori.

[A]

I love Yori. So I'm glad that Vuori is sponsoring and want to say thank you because they are my soft, stretchy and super comfy. Basically my workout clothes and my loungewear.

[B]

And by the way, all of my workout clothes are screwed. I need to get all new workout clothes. And you should go to Biore. I know. I saw the shorts you were about to talk about and I was like, I'm gonna get a bunch of those.

[A]

Yeah. The reason I like these shorts, they're called their core shorts. And I don't have to look at copy to tell you this because it is true. When you're a dude with skinny legs. My legs are not that skinny, but there's no skinny. And you're laying on the bench where you're like, your legs are in the air.

[B]

Your shorts fall back 100, right? Yeah.

[A]

And so there's two issues. One is an exposure issue.

[B]

Yes. And the second, public place is not good.

[A]

Look like you have skinny legs. They got those under wraps.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Go under the shorts. Yeah.

[B]

Like bike.

[A]

Exactly. Tight wrappies.

[B]

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[A]

And like there they are right there. Those little tight wrappy things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's nice because you don't feel so awkward when you have them. I love these shorts. They're great shorts. Anyway, it is. They're shorts, what they're called. Fiori is a great brand. They really are. And I'm stoked that they're sponsoring because it is my go to workout gear. It's, it's. The whole vibe is inspired by this coastal California lifestyle vibe, which is like this easygoing, but they call it like also the sharp looking, meaning that like you can wear them out to something, but also you can wear them to gym, obviously, because you do that too. So Vuori is your investment in happiness. And right now they are offering 20% off your first purchase. Get a T shirt. Their black T shirts are amazing. Just go to Vuori. That's v u O-R-I.com dig that's v u R. I like the pied piece. And you will get 20% off plus you will get free shipping on US orders over $75. And the best part. And this is so cool about our sponsors. If you don't like it, free returns.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So there's nothing to lose.

[B]

I'm literally going to go home and buy like four pairs of shorts using our coupon code.

[A]

I mean, it's funny, my sister was asking me the other day, there was another that we had where she was like, do you have any more of those codes? I'm like, kerry, you could only use them one time. Stop taking my code. I mean, she could use the code.

[B]

Those are my codes.

[A]

Those are my codes. Anyway. Vuori.com dig I'm on it.

[B]

We're doing it. Next story.

[A]

All right, next story. This one is crazy. So I'm a huge fan of eleven Labs. Mal's done some work with them. We have some fun stuff coming out on the dig side. And Mal, have you seen this new conversational AI 2.0? No, I'm excited to see this. Oh, okay, cool. Full screen. The 11 Labs conversational AI is evolving. We've been optimizing some brand new features to create the most. So watch how fast. This is Agents in the world. First up, we've developed a state of the art turn taking model to help agents perfectly understand when to interrupt.

[B]

Thank you. And what's your order number please?

[A]

Oh, let me just double check. 947835.

[B]

Perfect. Your delivery is on its way. Whoa.

[A]

We've integrated language detection. Language detection. Watch this. And that's real. That's real time.

[B]

To our design studio.

[A]

And we've built the world's first integrated rag for voice agents to retrieve from your knowledge base at minimum latency with maximum price. Rag. Action. Your next patient is Mr. Frank Reynolds with ataxia. Oh, it's been a while since I've worked ataxia. Could you remind me of the guidelines please?

[B]

Sure. I analyzed all the best practices and found this.

[A]

And lastly, this is the cool part. Limit your creativity when you can switch between multiple characters. Single agent in a single agent. Watch it. Let's head east towards downtown. I'm not sure about that, boss. Hey, don't be scared, man. Let's just go this. How cool is that? The new era. Some multi agents. All with full HIPAA compliance third party integration. You can stop it now. Enterprise grade security.

[B]

Hey, I was worried about the HIPAA compliance. Enterprise grade security, Kevin.

[A]

So the cool thing about this is now you have multi agent support, which I like because that means you have different voices, different characters than this. And so you can imagine what this is going to unlock on the gaming side and everything else.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Absolute game changer. Game changer. Podcasting voice model. Yes. Yeah, it's huge. And then also the low latency of it all, how fast it can respond.

[B]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[A]

Super impressive.

[B]

That looks fake.

[A]

And then full rag support. So what that essentially means is that you can tie into. So typically, you think of these things as bound to an LLM in some way.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Which they are. But they can also go out and hit external data and bring that into the conversation. So you could have a vector database filled with a whole corpus of things. And like, for example, you could jump to all of Einstein's published papers into a vector database and say, hey, Einstein, tell me about your blah, blah, blah. And rather than rely upon the LLM to kind of have that knowledge somewhat baked in, it's actually going to go right to the core knowledge and bring it right back into the conversation. Wow. It's freaking cool, dude. All this stuff. Every two weeks, my mind is blown.

[B]

This is one of those things that, to me, it just feels like, yeah, yeah, it's. It's crazy. It's great.

[A]

We got buff poodles. We got buff poodles.

[B]

We got Alex turning into a predator. The end of the show. I mean, come on.

[A]

I mean, when we started, we were like, is your Windows machine booting back? Oh, my God. Like, why won't Windows do the act?

[B]

I can't see that video.

[A]

I'm pretty sure you had, like, a serial port on the back of the person. I mean, this.

[B]

This one did come with a serial port. It's very.

[A]

But, like, where have we gone?

[B]

Oh, dude.

[A]

Like, now, like, we've got. We can literally, like, walk away from this and probably have our AI models sit in here by the end of this year. I guarantee it.

[B]

It would say, well, it'll be coming up.

[A]

What if you just turned into a lizard right now? I'd be like, oh, fuck.

[B]

By the way, that stuff is, like, clearly, like, you know, real time. I mean, it's. The funny thing is, is, like, think about, like, the fucking Snapchat filters. I mean, I know this is so dumb, but, like, back in the day, I remember. I can't remember what fucking movie it was, but I think it was J.J. abrams. It might have been from 8. 8 millimeter. Eight? No, not 8 millimeter. Super 8. 8 millimeter. Also good movie. Totally different. One's a family movie. One's not a family movie. Anyway, but for Super 8, he put out this iPhone VFX thing where we do real time comping on your. Your photo camera. And it blew my mind. It literally was like you could take a video of somebody and you could shoot rockets at them and they would explode. And it was like Compton at the exact same time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was like the miraculous party trick of party tricks.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Now you can literally be a dinosaur in real time. I mean, like that fucking video, the meme video of the guy who like, was teaching a class or something and couldn't get the cat filter off. And just look at that.

[A]

Oh my God, I love that.

[B]

Think about that. That is so dumb. You don't even think about the how like the compute that it takes to make that happen now. It's like so plase blase. That's not a thing. But it's literally one of those things where you're like, this is what's gonna become the sort of like, norm. I mean, I fucking took a driverless car here today.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

Like we talked about it. It's like the boiling of the frog, right? Like you put a frog in cold water and slowly starts to boil. They won't know that they're getting boiled alive. It's the same thing with like video calls, right? Like FaceTime calls are so ubiquitous. It's like not even a thing. Like people don't even think about it as a thing. And in the 80s, when I was watching Total Recall and she was taking video phone calls, it was like, well, that'll never fucking happen in my lifetime. You know what I mean? Johnny Cabs from Total Recall. I mean, Total Recall got a lot of stuff, right? Yeah, except for the Mars stuff, but whatever.

[A]

Yeah, the.

[B]

Well, yeah, you know, the three.

[A]

I was thinking, for some reason I went straight to Multipass. Different movie. Yeah, great.

[B]

Also great movie.

[A]

One of my favorite movies.

[B]

I mean, how could you not get.

[A]

A favorite Neil Joe movie?

[B]

Multi pass.

[A]

Multipass. Can we get a multi pass?

[B]

Who knows? It's a multi pass.

[A]

Who is your, like, like a little crush back in those days before you were married?

[B]

Well, first off, you can have crushes and be married. That's totally how humans work. Yeah, yeah, for me.

[A]

Like, but around that age, probably like 16 when multi pass came out or something like that, where were we? Sixteen. What was the name again?

[B]

It was Fifth Element.

[A]

Oh yeah. Fifth Element. Release date, dude. 1997. So I was 20.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So yeah, I mean, this was my prime for hormones. This is the time when you were like, I am in.

[B]

You're like, salu Dallas. Multi pass. Yeah, I'm trying To think of who around that time was like, my. My thing. I don't know. But, yeah. Carla Juina. Carla Joina. I can't. I never. I always call her Carla Joina, and that's totally not her name. Gugino. Carla Gugino.

[A]

I mean, gee, Jesus. Yeah, she was a cutie.

[B]

Yeah. This is like my. This was my. My lady.

[A]

Well, that was when she's older, okay? Oh, there. She's younger. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not that she doesn't look good when she's older, but. Here we go. Hold on.

[B]

You ready? Sin City.

[A]

Oh, what about Blanche? From.

[B]

Blanche dubois?

[A]

From Golden Girls? Yeah.

[B]

From Golden Girls.

[A]

Yeah, Blanche.

[B]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, that's. Yeah. Oh, no, that's not. That's not her. Anyway, whatever.

[A]

Remember Golden Girls?

[B]

I know the Golden Girls.

[A]

Blanche when she was younger.

[B]

Oh, stop.

[A]

First of all, I'm not even joking, okay?

[B]

Watch this. Are you serious?

[A]

I'm gonna blow your mind. Watch this.

[B]

Dude, I can't see your screen right now.

[A]

Okay, can you pull Blanche real quick?

[B]

No, I don't want to do it. It's gonna buy that.

[A]

No, it's not bad. You remember her from Golden Girls. Watch. Blanche debois.

[B]

Blanche dubois.

[A]

Watch this. Look at Blanche. No, no, no, it wasn't Blanche. No, it was. Wait, what was the other one?

[B]

Betty White?

[A]

Yeah, Betty White. Young Betty White. What's happening? No, there is a Golden Girl that I'm telling you will blow your mind. It wasn't Betty White. Maybe Sophia. Sophia. Sophia.

[B]

Bea Arthur.

[A]

Bea Arthur. What is happening? Hold on. Hold on. I'm telling you. Oh, God. It wasn't her. What was the old one? What was the old one? The really old, small one.

[B]

I thought we were just making fun of the poor Golden Girls.

[A]

Hold on. I'm telling you, there was one that I was just like. I could not believe she was a Golden Girl. Maybe it was Betty White. Hold on. There was one of them.

[B]

Just give me a second.

[A]

I know I look like I'm. Wow.

[B]

I mean, I'm not lying. Kevin, try to connect again. Wait, go back up. Was it Roo?

[A]

No, just give me a sec. There was one of them. Let me just go back to the main menu. Okay, Keep entertaining everyone.

[B]

So there I was, drinking this lovely mascot wine.

[A]

There she is. Ah.

[B]

I found her.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She was hiding in the bush.

[A]

Oh, it was a lie. Was it AI?

[B]

Was it AI? Wait, you thought that was Estelle Getty?

[A]

Yeah, Sophia, because it said. This is not a photo of her. Now, look, how can I share? Where's the Sharing.

[B]

Use the share button. You got it. AI, no, no. This one airplay.

[A]

So it says, this is not a photo. I had seen this and I was like, holy crap. That, like. Not to say the Golden Girls weren't attracted when they were young, but I. I didn't. I thought that was. I thought that was Sophia. So anyway, I got it wrong.

[B]

And that's who he thought that was.

[A]

Great story, Kevin.

[B]

It's a great story, Kevin. Really excited to keep this party rolling.

[A]

Call myself on that. Out on that.

[B]

Call myself out on that one.

[A]

Waste of time.

[B]

A lot of time.

[A]

Okay, inbred lenses, then we're off.

[B]

Not now. Okay, here we go. Ready? First off, this is going to be fun with. With four Digs. Submitted by Nik. Infrared contact lenses allow people to see in the dark even with their eyes closed.

[A]

And why do we say four digs now?

[B]

Why? I said this is because I, among a handful of other people, including yourself, are in the dig test flight. Technical alpha of the Dig iOS app.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I will say that today, when I was researching stories, I did find this on the Dig feed and thought, oh, this is. This is great. This is super interesting. Yeah, I dug it. And I was like, I'm going to use this. So in the future. Yeah, hopefully the.

[A]

At some point will be about.

[B]

Will be about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because this is how it started. Anyway, thank you at Nick for submitting this really interesting concept. So essentially what it is is that this. A bunch of neuroscientists and material scientists have got together and they created these contacts that enable infrared vision in both human and mice. What they did to the mice, you know, it's like science, but like. Jesus Christ. They, like, injected nanoparticles into their retinas and then they saw that they could actually see in the infrared spectrum. It was fucked up. So, I mean, whatever. That's how science has to work, I guess. And I feel bad for the mice, and we all do. But like science, you know, sometimes these mice live forever. Well, yes, you know what I mean? This fucking mice could see in the dark.

[A]

Well, and sometimes they give them these compounds and the mice live like four times their age. So sometimes the mice.

[B]

All right, so sometimes they win. But. So the whole concept is that it's these nanoparticles that convert infrared frequencies into visible light frequencies as they pass through. And what they did was in the mice, they put those nanoparticles into the retina and then they flooded one box with infrared light so nobody could see it. The mouse couldn't see it. And one Box that didn't have any infrared light. And the mice always chose the box with the no infrared light to go into. But mice was asleep. Yeah. They were like, fuck, it's bright in there. I'm gonna go in this. But the mice that had no stuff, they would just randomly choose one box or the other.

[A]

Oh, Jesus. Cause they can't sleep then.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause they can't close their eyes.

[B]

Well, no, that's the thing that's so fucking even weirder. They said that it actually makes it better to perceive with the contacts. If you. You can see the. The infrared light.

[A]

Do the mice get the contacts or the humans are getting contacts?

[B]

Humans. They built the human contacts. Okay, but with the contacts on, it'd.

[A]

Be hard to put the little contacts on the mice.

[B]

Yeah, they're just like, God damn. Yeah, exactly like, eat the cheese. Put the contacts in. We have this like little contacts, little.

[A]

Baby one little case, little baby paste, little beep. Okay.

[B]

And they're like. Anyway, that would be funny. But the other thing that they said was it was actually easier to perceive the infrared signals when you had your eyes closed because the visible light wasn't going through.

[A]

So interesting.

[B]

You weren't seeing both. So they. Essentially what they did was they realized that a. They could. Cause there's no power in these nanoparticles. It just. This is what they do.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So very blurry, not very good. High resolution when it's that close because it kind of sprays the visible light version of the infrared light to the eyeball or to the iris. So it's like.

[A]

It's like V1, right.

[B]

And you can put them in glasses.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So think about, like infrared. Infrared night vision glasses without any power.

[A]

Meta's gonna have this shit.

[B]

100%. 100%. But then they also said for people that are colorblind, what it can do is they can have them take the, like the red spectrum, red wavelength, convert it to green.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So then you'll be able to actually see the light. Dude, this is fucking crazy. Next level shit, man.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, this is so cool. This is actually what app. So what Apple is doing right now that I think is really cool is have you done the hearing test with the pros? Do you have the AirPod Pros?

[B]

So I had a weird thing.

[A]

Uh.

[B]

Oh, I bought. I bought the AirPods.

[A]

The Pros.

[B]

I don't remember them.

[A]

Did they have the soft little tippy or was it a hard one?

[B]

Hard one.

[A]

Yeah. The pros that had the soft tip.

[B]

But here's the Thing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I bought them. I was super excited. I was like, oh, this is like. When they came out, I was like, oh, this is great. Put them in my head. It made me feel weird.

[A]

Cause of the 3D stuff?

[B]

No, I think it was because of. I think I have, like, an electromagnetic sensitivity. Cause sometimes I'll touch my laptop and it'll make my hand feel, like, fuzzy, like prickly.

[A]

Weird.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so you got a little stack. Was it noise canceling mode?

[B]

No.

[A]

That does do weird things to me too.

[B]

I don't know. I just put them in and I was like, I don't feel.

[A]

Feel weird.

[B]

I don't want. I was like in the middle of a conversation with my buddy and I was like, I. I gotta take these things out. Like.

[A]

Oh, you mean you were on the phone?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought you were talking to a friend. You just put them in?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why are you putting those in?

[B]

Well, that's very interesting. I don't feel good.

[A]

The whole thing. They turn them into hearing aids.

[B]

That's great. I love that.

[A]

But that's the cool thing I was gonna tell you about the hearing test is it finds the frequencies that you are deficient in and it boosts just those frequencies, which is brilliant. Yeah.

[B]

I'm gonna have. I'm gonna. Heather has them. So here's.

[A]

Here's a mouse.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Putting in a contact lens.

[B]

Kevin. Kevin. With this. Oh, you can't share your screen.

[A]

Oh, he's eating it. Why is he eating the gun?

[B]

Well, first off, putting in. I think the AI doesn't. Doesn't know what. Putting in eyes. I know, but remember, because remember, you were like, it takes out her dentures and they shut down face.

[A]

Think about it. You were doing a commercial for a contact lens company. Not that you would want to mouse it in your contact lens, but my point being is that look at the.

[B]

Durability of our contact lenses.

[A]

How much would this cost?

[B]

A lot of money. A lot of money. Right. Whole crew, lighting.

[A]

Mouse.

[B]

Mouse, by the way, trained mouse.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Not as cheap as you think.

[A]

Probably his own little rv. Of course.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A little Barbie.

[B]

A little Barbie mini wagon set up, you know? All right, we're ready for Mr. Scratchers. Yeah, Mr. Scratchers is walking.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

It is. It's crazy. It is fucking crazy. All right, and how do we do? 1 10, 1 11. Very nice. Yeah, it's good seeing you, bud.

[A]

Good seeing you as well.

[B]

Yeah. It's been a while.

[A]

I am. Thank you for supporting my sober journey.

[B]

I fully support. And you will never feel Pressure from me to drink alcohol on this show. I will turn off. Never join you, but. Well, maybe I will.

[A]

You could do three months.

[B]

I did four two summers ago. Two summers ago. Four months. I did during COVID Don't look at that. Two summers ago. Wasn't Covid. I mean, Covid still exists, but. Yeah, no, no, it was. It was two summers ago. I just was like, four months. Four months? Yeah.

[A]

You weren't getting the Benzes and shit? Like, you weren't, like, shaky.

[B]

I wasn't getting Benz.

[A]

You weren't shaky? A little bit.

[B]

No, it was more boredom.

[A]

You didn't have any withdrawals?

[B]

No.

[A]

So you could go, like, a week right now and have no issues?

[B]

I mean, yeah, I wouldn't have any issues. I would want to be drinking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, by the end of the evening. The problem is, for me, when I was doing it for the first. I would say three weeks, maybe four weeks. Yeah, it was.

[A]

Why am I.

[B]

It's five. Or we're going out to dinner. There's a nice wine list. Like, that was my. Like, we're watching a movie. Like, it's eight. We're on the couch. We're watching a movie. There's ice in the freezer. There's Jack Daniels on the side. Like, I could just. That was the thing that made me go like, oh. But then it was like, once I got over that hump, I also. I thought the sort of social stuff was gonna be more annoying, but then I realized I was like, what am I doing?

[A]

Once people have a couple drinks, they forget all about it.

[B]

Oh, they don't give you. By the way, what I've discovered in my 48 years on the planet is most people aren't thinking about you.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And by you, I mean me.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, I assume everybody's thinking about me and what I'm doing and am I being weird. And the answer is nobody gives a shit. Yeah, Everybody is thinking about themselves. And am I doing something weird? And what am I doing with my hands? What should I be doing? Is this person thinking I'm weird? Like, if you think about it, every interaction socially that you've ever had, I am interested in that person. But I'm. I'm rarely ever judging that person based on what they are doing in the moment that I'm having that conversation.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Rarely ever, if ever. You know what I mean? Extreme.

[A]

Unless you get trapped.

[B]

Right. But, like, extreme situation. But even then, I'm not blaming them. Just like, this is awkward. That guy's weird. This girl's weird. I want to leave. I'm never thinking about that person again.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's not like, I'm going home, being like, well, that fucking weird. It's like, no, dude, it's just. That wasn't. You know what I mean? Like, it's just very interesting. I remember a couple years ago, I can't remember when I had that realization, when it was like, nobody is thinking about me any more than I'm thinking of other people at this party.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it's a very freeing thought.

[A]

Yeah, it is, actually.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's just like, oh. Cause I'm not really thinking about the other people at this party unless you relax in any negative way that my brain would think people were thinking of me. Like, are people thinking I'm weird? Am I talking too much? Am I. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, I don't. I'm not thinking about that for any of these other people. Why would they be thinking about it?

[A]

To me, that's a good point.

[B]

Anyway, love it.

[A]

Wisdom, that is. Philosophy podcast.

[B]

I will. It'll be called Flop.

[A]

We definitely could use some AI for that.

[B]

By the way, thank you to all of you for coming along this random journey. I'm glad that you are here. I'm glad that you are here. Glad that Mao's here and Sarah's here.

[A]

Getting all a little emotional on everybody.

[B]

I'm just saying, this is a great. We got to do this today, and that's a cool day.

[A]

How's the zbiotics feeling?

[B]

I think it might be high. No, I'm just kidding. Just kidding. Feels great. I will text everybody tomorrow and let you know how I feel after. Because also, Heather's not home, so I'm, like, gonna go home and order a pizza. Drink and drink.

[A]

Okay. Anyway, until next time, I'm Kevin Rose.

[B]

I'm Alex Albrecht. We will see you on the cyberspace.

[A]

Cyberspace.

[B]

AOL.com in a prompt.