Under the Wire with AI, Exoskeletons, and Gaming PC builds | EP 10 | Diggnation

Summary

Podcast Summary: Diggnation (Rebooted) - "Under the Wire with AI, Exoskeletons, and Gaming PC Builds | EP 10"

Release Date: February 17, 2025

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1. Welcome and New Setup (00:00 - 02:00)

Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht kick off the episode with their trademark humor and casual banter. They introduce their new home setup, showcasing new furniture and reminiscing about past episodes.

Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Rose [00:00]: “Wait, there are two wires. A red wire and a black wire. And a yellow one.”
• Alex Albrecht [02:00]: “It's not gone away. The rest of it's just gone gray. Fuckers.”

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2. Sponsorship Announcements (15:32 - 39:36)

The hosts announce their first sponsors, emphasizing their commitment to only partnering with brands they genuinely support.

a. Element Electrolyte Drink Mix (16:24 - 19:58)

Alex and Kevin discuss how Element Electrolyte Drink Mix has benefited their fitness routines and overall hydration. They highlight its effectiveness in preventing muscle cramps and improving performance.

Notable Quotes:

• Alex Albrecht [16:35]: “Thanks for bringing up that we are using Element daily.”
• Kevin Rose [18:08]: “Element has 1,000 milligrams of sodium and 200 milligrams of potassium per packet.”

b. DeleteMe (39:36 - 39:58)

Kevin introduces DeleteMe, a service focused on protecting personal privacy by removing personal information from data brokers. He shares his positive experiences with the service.

Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Rose [39:06]: “JoinDeleteMe.com/digg with promo code DIGG at checkout.”

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3. Main Content

a. Robotic Exoskeletons in China (19:58 - 23:35)

Kevin and Alex delve into the innovative use of robotic exoskeletons assisting tourists in climbing Mount Tai, one of China’s most challenging peaks. They discuss the technology’s effectiveness and potential future applications.

Notable Quotes:

• Alex Albrecht [20:38]: “It's like a robo Sherpa.”
• Kevin Rose [21:38]: “It's just enough. It's like someone is pulling my legs up the mountain.”

b. Gaming Rigs and Switch 2 (23:35 - 36:32)

The hosts transition to discussing the latest developments in gaming hardware, including Kevin’s new gaming PC build and the anticipation surrounding Nintendo’s Switch 2. They share their preferences and insights into the evolving gaming landscape.

Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Rose [24:03]: “I'm building with the 9800x3D, the new AMD chip.”
• Alex Albrecht [32:05]: “Switch is sticking with Nvidia GPU, which is great.”

c. Solar-Powered CO2 Capture (39:45 - 43:04)

Alex presents a story about a Cambridge University project that developed a solar-powered reactor to capture carbon dioxide and convert it into sustainable fuel. They discuss the implications for combating climate change.

Notable Quotes:

• Alex Albrecht [40:35]: “They convert CO2 into solar syngas, which can be used to make hydrogen and fuels.”
• Kevin Rose [42:58]: “It's a lot of work, but somebody else is doing it.”

d. Teleportation and Quantum Computing (43:04 - 50:55)

Kevin and Alex explore the advancements in teleportation between quantum computers. They humorously debate the risks and philosophical implications of human teleportation, referencing MacGyver and pop culture.

Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Rose [49:00]: “Teleportation achieved between quantum computers and World First.”
• Alex Albrecht [50:06]: “I would use it too much.”

e. Starbucks' "Mug Hug" Strategy (64:23 - 72:48)

The discussion shifts to Starbucks’ new CEO’s strategy to enhance customer experience through initiatives like ceramic mugs, reinstating the condiment bar, and implementing the "mug hug" concept to encourage customers to linger longer.

Notable Quotes:

• Alex Albrecht [65:22]: “He coined the term 'mug hug' to bring back the charm of the coffee shop.”
• Kevin Rose [67:32]: “They're bringing back the condiment bar so people can make their drink however they want.”

f. Kanye West and Swastika T-Shirts (73:13 - 82:56)

Kevin and Alex critique Kanye West’s controversial decision to sell swastika-themed T-shirts. They discuss the cultural implications and the backlash faced by Kanye, blending humor with critical commentary.

Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Rose [73:19]: “Kanye’s swastika shirts—it’s just so icky.”
• Alex Albrecht [73:21]: “He’s a fucking idiot.”

g. GLP1 Drugs and Health (82:56 - 90:17)

The hosts discuss GLP1 drugs like Ozempic and Repatha, exploring their benefits for weight loss and glucose control alongside potential side effects such as temporary vision degradation. They share personal experiences and insights into the evolving medical approaches.

Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Rose [85:32]: “GLP1s reduce glucose levels, which helps decrease inflammation.”
• Alex Albrecht [88:00]: “Dropping weight fast is worse than drop slowly.”

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4. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Live Show (90:17 - 97:53)

Kevin and Alex wrap up the episode by teasing their upcoming live show at South by Southwest in Austin. They hint at special announcements, guest appearances, and exclusive swag for attendees, building excitement for the event.

Notable Quotes:

• Kevin Rose [96:51]: “We all know Jason Calacanis is going to be wandering the VIP area.”
• Alex Albrecht [97:02]: “Sunny on Apple TV is awesome. Just watch the first episode.”

Final Notes:

• Valentine’s Day Wishes: Both hosts extend warm wishes to their listeners for Valentine's Day, blending personal anecdotes with humor.
• Live Show Teasers: Exciting announcements about guests like Tim Ferriss, Chris Saka, and Mixmaster Mike create anticipation for the live event.

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Conclusion

Episode 10 of Diggnation (Rebooted) seamlessly blends humor, insightful discussions, and current tech and cultural topics. From cutting-edge AI and sustainable technologies to gaming innovations and societal trends, Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht provide an engaging and informative listening experience. The addition of sponsors like Element and DeleteMe underscores their commitment to quality content, while their upcoming live show promises even more excitement for fans.

Happy Listening!

Transcript

[Kevin Rose]

Wait, there are two wires. A red wire and a black wire. And a yellow one. Given your expertise. Sorry, there's three. Three wires. Given your expertise in disarming bombs, I really need your help here. Don't tell me you're not going to answer my like. Just help me. Which wire should I cut for the best odds of not blowing up MacGyver? Look at MacGyver data. Welcome to D. Patient.

[Alex Albrecht]

Also potentially hazardous to your health.

[Kevin Rose]

All right. Moving. Why do you have flies in your freaking house?

[Alex Albrecht]

I've noticed in Southern California. It's Southern California. And I have shroot.

[Kevin Rose]

You quit zombie. And you put earring in the title. And I don't want to do it. Dignation.com.

[Alex Albrecht]

Hello, everybody, and welcome to Dig Nation. Episode number ten. I'm Alex Albrecht.

[Kevin Rose]

Konnichiwa. Oh, yes. And I'm Kevin Rose. Welcome to the latest episode of Dig Nation. It is a beautiful day in Los.

[Alex Albrecht]

Angeles, and we are in our new spot, our new digs, our new home. Check out the stuff we got. What's it called? A plexi. What's it called?

[Kevin Rose]

Plexiglass.

[Alex Albrecht]

Which is very exciting. Games.

[Kevin Rose]

New couch.

[Alex Albrecht]

New couch. Although I think this might be a temporary. It's a loaner couch. Prager sent it to us.

[Kevin Rose]

Did he really?

[Alex Albrecht]

No. And then if Kevin moves his head. Look at this old episode. This is a picture that we blew up from our last live show, last episode of dignation.

[Kevin Rose]

Look at that.

[Alex Albrecht]

And I forgot how ornate the couch was that we got and how young.

[Kevin Rose]

We were and how much less gray hair I had. Less you. Oh, don't you collar now?

[Alex Albrecht]

I don't.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes, you do.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, I don't. Dude, look at my hair. Look at my fucking beard.

[Kevin Rose]

No, I know your beard.

[Alex Albrecht]

If I was gonna color my hair, I would color my beard. That's what everybody has to do.

[Kevin Rose]

First of all. Oh, you do. Because you used to have a little gray spot on your eyes.

[Alex Albrecht]

I still do. It's right here.

[Kevin Rose]

It's gone away.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's not gone away. The rest of it's just gone gray. Fuckers. Anyway, also, we brought over the shovels that we were on the Fallon show right before we closed down and Jimmy gave us golden shovels.

[Kevin Rose]

Jimmy, if you're watching, we love you. Love you long time. Come hang Southwest. Coming up, live show, south by Southwest.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. So speaking of the 8th of March.

[Kevin Rose]

Uh, you know, I'd like to say that. Did Maggie write me back?

[Alex Albrecht]

I think I'd like to say that. Did Maggie?

[Kevin Rose]

Pretty sure. She says there's Four tickets left. General mission.

[Alex Albrecht]

Wow.

[Kevin Rose]

And she liked list line idea. So this is the, this is the whole plan. One go to dignation show top banner. You can click on it. You know what I've noticed And this has happened a couple times. There's been a few people that have said oh shit, I can't make it.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And so I just process their refund and give them money back because obviously why not? And so every once in a while a couple of tickets will pop up and then it'll sell right back out. So you might be able to get ticket. Worst case scenario, if you go there and everything's sold out and you still want to go and you're like, ah, damn. I'm going to be in Austin at South by just show up. Because as people cycle out, we're going to be having more people come in. And I talked to Tim Ferriss, he's going to have a guest on before us. So you're going to actually get to see a Tim Ferriss show bonus show with a guest. Not me, not the random show thing. But he's going to have his own awesome guest.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Just for our show.

[Alex Albrecht]

Check this out. We're going to tighten in old school dignation style.

[Kevin Rose]

Bring it in.

[Alex Albrecht]

We had it out. So you can see and look. Bam. That's what we're talking about. Also Mal, if you wouldn't mind turning that away from me. Cuz I just cannot stop looking at myself.

[Kevin Rose]

No, I like it.

[Alex Albrecht]

There's a giant mon. I just keep looking over here like this. I'm like, ah. How's everybody doing? Looking at myself. Thankfully that he just took that distraction.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, I do want some of my dad's shoes. Look, I got these new dad shoes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, dad shoes.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. What'd you think I said?

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, when you walked in, you were like, I got.

[Kevin Rose]

Well first you guys said, these look like nut sacks on the back of my shoes. Who said that?

[Alex Albrecht]

I do. That's how shoes work.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, I mean they are.

[Alex Albrecht]

I can't even see. Then we turned it. So I thought you. I thought you. Oh my God.

[Kevin Rose]

What did you think?

[Alex Albrecht]

I thought that you had somehow found a store that had made shoes that your dad used to wear. Aw. And that you finally had them make a pair for you. Oh, he just passed away. I know, but I was like, that's, that's very sentimental. These are dad shoes.

[Kevin Rose]

No, no, they call them dad shoes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Because they look like you look like a dad.

[Kevin Rose]

That's like kind of the point.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's sort of like baggy jeans.

[Kevin Rose]

Nobody looks good at the back.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know, but nobody looks good at them.

[Kevin Rose]

I know, but I did get some jeans and so I was in Tokyo. That's why I started to show off in Konichi.

[Alex Albrecht]

Konichiwa.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

So how was Tokyo?

[Kevin Rose]

It was so awesome.

[Alex Albrecht]

We gotta do another show there.

[Kevin Rose]

We gotta do another show.

[Alex Albrecht]

Cause I've been there and Heather have been there. I mean, I was only there the one time we went. And then Heather's been insane to me. I know, because I loved it.

[Kevin Rose]

First drink since Tokyo.

[Alex Albrecht]

Hey, welcome back, by the way. Did you just land yesterday?

[Kevin Rose]

Two days. Three days ago. So listen, guys, I got, first of all, little New Year's update. Oh, all of Japan. Or all of the.

[Alex Albrecht]

All of Japan. Was wondering.

[Kevin Rose]

All of January. I did really fucking good.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, me too.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm kind of over excessive drinking, except for when we do our shows. Meaning that, like.

[Alex Albrecht]

Wait, you're kind of over that or is that the new plan?

[Kevin Rose]

That's. That's the new plan going forward.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah. Smart, smart.

[Kevin Rose]

So the, the crazy thing is, like, I, I would say of January, and if I'm being really honest, I lied to do that one time. No. But I would say I probably had six drinks in total in all of January.

[Alex Albrecht]

I did nothing, you know, I did Nothing up until January 30th.

[Kevin Rose]

And how many do you have?

[Alex Albrecht]

What do you mean, how many? I drank that one day and then I drank the next day.

[Kevin Rose]

So how many did you get in January?

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, you're talking about total. It's like that episode of the Detroiters. Have you seen it? So great guy's at his doctor's office and he's like, he's like. So how much do you think you, you, you drink? And he goes, or how, how often do you drink? He was like, I don't know, I'm good for 10. And he was like, 10 in a week? And he goes, a week? And then he goes, you have 10 beers in a day. And he goes, we're counting beers too. I feel like that guy sometimes.

[Kevin Rose]

So we won't get into it with you, but let's just say you had a couple of good.

[Alex Albrecht]

I was, I was sent January off with a bang and straight into February.

[Kevin Rose]

And continuing straight into February.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, you know, I took some time.

[Kevin Rose]

We've been all over the place already so far in this episode. I'm a little jet lagged. Yeah, all good. I went on a Japanese denim kick when I was out there.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. So what is. I've seen a lot about Japanese denim, but I don't know much.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay, so here's the deal. This is, and this will be old hat to a lot of people. Cause I know Japanese denim's been a thing for a while. The one thing that I will say that is so awesome about Japan right now is the exchange rate is so freaking good against the doll.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, really?

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. Oh, dude, I, I, because I had no clothes because all my clothes burnt in fire. I went there and, and I, I went to the store and I got like three pairs of jeans, like these like, like really nice jeans, a couple shirts, a beanie, and this really nice jacket. And you know, all in was like, you know, 800 bucks. And this is like the best of the best. And I was like, that's not how.

[Alex Albrecht]

Usually going to buy clothes in Japan are.

[Kevin Rose]

No, it was like, how are these tight?

[Alex Albrecht]

Like tough or what's.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, so what they do is they base them on like the ounce weight of the denim. And so I'm gonna, we'll put this in the actual video so you can watch it right now. But let me just show you this video. So these are a pair of jeans that I have. This is a video.

[Alex Albrecht]

Those are standing straight up.

[Kevin Rose]

They're standing up on their own without me touching them.

[Alex Albrecht]

What?

[Kevin Rose]

Because they are that thick. So they are insanely uncomfortable to wear.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, I was gonna say, I was like, this is not how I want my jeans.

[Kevin Rose]

It's horrible. It feels like you jumped in a pool and then got out and you're wearing je. That have a nasty feeling.

[Alex Albrecht]

But what, is there an upside to it? Yes, they look cool.

[Kevin Rose]

No, no, no. It has nothing to do with the looks.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay?

[Kevin Rose]

You wear them for six months without washing them painfully. Not straight.

[Alex Albrecht]

You can't take them off for six months.

[Kevin Rose]

You do not wash them.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay.

[Kevin Rose]

And then they slowly start to break in. And when they break in, they're like the most luxurious, comfortable cotton like form fitting jeans you'll have ever had.

[Alex Albrecht]

So six months of utter uncomfortability. Yes and no.

[Kevin Rose]

Watching you have like the most badass pair and they're so thick. Like the, the seams are thick and they're just like, they get all like, they completely change colors too.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, of course.

[Kevin Rose]

They like break in and they get faded. It's, it's kind of a thing. It's really awesome.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, it's almost like what I mean, because look, that's the end of the day. Like everything like I bought these are all pre faded. You know what I mean? I had ones for a while that had, like, grips already in them. It's like that style is from people wearing the shit out of their jeans and they start disintegrating, and then people are like, that looks cool, right? So it's like you're basically starting. I just don't know if I have the constitution.

[Kevin Rose]

No, we should go. When we go to Japan, we'll go to this place. I know. We'll get you some jeans and, you know, you'll pay 75 bucks or whatever, and they'll last you forever.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dude, 75 bucks is cheap for a pair of jeans.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

You know what I mean?

[Kevin Rose]

I bought a couple different pairs. One. One of them was called Big John, which is, like, one of the oldest manufacturers out there. Those are the big, heavy ones. But anyway, was a lot of fun. I didn't realize, like, just full honesty.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, that's why we're here. Full honesty.

[Kevin Rose]

You know, after the fire and everything, like, just having a break with a couple buddies.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, I get that. I get that.

[Kevin Rose]

Just, like, just getting out of the house and just being like. And going, you know, we had a couple drinks and had this one thing called Ghost Ice, which I can show you.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah, that looks like it disappears a little bit.

[Kevin Rose]

See it? It's gone.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. Scooby Doo Ice.

[Kevin Rose]

Had had fun. Had fun with my buddy Tony and Josh, and. And now we're back. So good to be back. Little jet lag, but. But I'm doing good.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. How long is that trip?

[Kevin Rose]

Is that still 12 hours out there and then from LA, and then we had some good winds coming back, so it was like eight and a half, nine hours coming back.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's. What? That's nothing.

[Kevin Rose]

We. I don't know what the hell was going on, but we saved a bunch of time coming back.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's crazy.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, it was great, but, dude. Oh, so I got a buddy. By the way, if you have never heard of Craig Mod type in Craigmod, find this guy's blog. He is, like the Japanese backpacker slash, like, artisan finder. He took me to his coffee shop that had, like, you know, like an 80 cup of coffee. And. And I would. I would think, what does that taste? I know that sounds crazy. It's this, like, geisha coffee that. The special type of coffee that they do.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, geisha coffee.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, it's just like a varietal. And it is. It was. I'm telling you, they serve it in a wine glass.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, I'm already enjoying it. Coffee in a wine glass.

[Kevin Rose]

But I will say, like, I You know, I walked in skeptical because I've been to a lot of high end, good coffee places.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And most stuff in Japan is actually reasonably priced right now. You know, as we said.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And I walked in and. And I was like, this is the most amazing thing. But anyway, Craig has a whole blog dedicated to these rare finds. And he just does all these backpacking, like, trips across Japan. Find these little tiny cities. And then like, was this the guy.

[Alex Albrecht]

That you went to the UK and did that thing?

[Kevin Rose]

Yes, yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

He's awesome. Anyway, he was there. He took me out. Dude, you can buy a little apartment in Tokyo right now.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

A little. Cute little apartment in a nice little neighborhood.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

About 75 grand for. Yeah. US dollars. Yeah. But don't expect to depreciate. So they don't really appreciate out there because they.

[Alex Albrecht]

But I'll appreciate it.

[Kevin Rose]

You'll appreciate it. And like, if you're staying in nice hotels and you use it like, it's awesome. And then he's like. He's like, oh, yeah, I bought this, like, apartment. He got a slightly nicer one. And then, you know, he had a contractor come out and do the work. And he was like, yeah, there's like, no change orders. Like, there's like a Japanese code of like, oh, we promised you a quote. And we promised you by this time. Yeah, there's like, it would be dishonorable not to.

[Alex Albrecht]

You're like, well, this bathroom is gonna take a while. Cause the construction guy had to jump out of the window because it took him a day longer. So I don't know. When we clean that up, he's like, this toilet was not how it was supposed to be.

[Kevin Rose]

That is so refreshing. Right? Cause it's like in America, it's like, oh, we said that was 20k. It's actually. Well, I'm sure you're gonna get.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. He was like knocking on the walls, like, ooh, I didn't know these wells were lamb baked.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Albrecht]

Like, what the fuck does that mean? It's 120k. God damn it. We did. I will say that actually did not. They were very nice. But that we did have our first. Because we're getting our. Our kitchen redone. And we did have our first sort of like, huh, what are we going to do now? Yeah, there was a wall that we were supposed to get rid of because it was just like, we thought it was like a garnish wall. Worse.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, worse than termites?

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, it was holding up the entire kitchen ceiling. This little wall. We were like, yeah, and then we'll just get rid of this wall. We'll put our big fridge there. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were like, talk. Okay, so wait a minute.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay. Okay, so wait. It was a structural wall that you didn't know, but it was doing a good job holding the ceiling up.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, the ceiling's still up, but, like. But they did not plan.

[Kevin Rose]

When they pulled it apart, was it like, oh, shit, this could have like.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, it was more like, huh, that's gonna be really hard to take out. Why is it so hard to take out, huh? Why is there a big beam going across the ceiling? And because we were deleting a wall between the kitchen and the living room. And the living room's got a vaulted ceiling. So we had to do all this, like, crazy engineering before.

[Kevin Rose]

I've been here before.

[Alex Albrecht]

So we had to do all this.

[Kevin Rose]

Expensive as hell.

[Alex Albrecht]

So. But here's the crazy.

[Kevin Rose]

The structural engineer has to come in and take a look at it 100%.

[Alex Albrecht]

So the guy literally just goes, that's a 10 to $15,000 job.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, at minimum. And they're gonna use steel to reinforce some of that shit. It's gonna be.

[Alex Albrecht]

So what we did was we basically went, okay, well, let's try reorganizing how the kitchen's designed. And the designer came back, and she's super nice, and she just looks. And she goes. She was like, you got the walls open, it's time to move. She's like, if you switch the fridge over here and you put a pantry over there. She was like, I could do it. She was like, but every time you open the fridge, you're gonna go, why the fuck didn't we just pay the 10 grand, 15 grand? So we called the guy, and we're like, we're doing it. And he was like, oh, really?

[Kevin Rose]

Why don't you just go to Home Depot and make that shit yourself, bro?

[Alex Albrecht]

The stuff that they had to do, they had to cut holes in the floor because especially in California, four and a half feet down squared, pour concrete in it, add post. I mean, it's crazy. They just put it in. I'll send you a picture, Ma, when I get home. They just put in this giant beam, so now there's no wall. It is crazy looking the difference, because you guys were just there.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

That whole thing is now just all the kitchen and living room.

[Kevin Rose]

That's kind of dope, though.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's going to be great. But it was one of Those moments where I was like, oh, boy, you.

[Kevin Rose]

Have a perfect sized little house. It's like, it's like, not too big, not too small. It's like, it's just a great spot.

[Alex Albrecht]

We have enough rooms that we can have a guest room. I can have an office. Heather can have an office. And we have, like. We use our, like, dining room for a home theater thing, which is really cool.

[Kevin Rose]

Love it.

[Alex Albrecht]

All right, well, before.

[Kevin Rose]

When's that done, by the way? When are we gonna get to go check that back out?

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Year from now.

[Alex Albrecht]

Year from.

[Kevin Rose]

10. Change orders later.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Technically, I think two more months. But I know they want to kind of, like, go a little bit faster because we were down for two weeks when they had to, like, get the engineer back in and make sure. So it's like. It's been a tick. It's been a tick. Let's just say that. All right, we have some fun news.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Guess what? We finally got our first sponsors.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

So excited.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, it's a little preamble before we do that. Something that's very important to me, and I know to you as well, is, like, you know, we feel very fortunate in that. Thank you all for watching the show. Number one, you've got the numbers up now to where it makes sense to bring on sponsors.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yes.

[Kevin Rose]

But our promise to you is only to accept stuff that we actually, truly can get behind and believe in 100%.

[Alex Albrecht]

100%.

[Kevin Rose]

We would much rather not sell an ad unit and just do the show.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Then have something that we don't believe in. So know that that is our lens in which we look through ads. But anyway, we just want to say that up front that, you know, you and I care deeply about the audience and making sure that we're actually recommending cool shit 1000%.

[Alex Albrecht]

And. And to that end, yes, our first sponsor is Element Electrolyte Drink Mix, which my wife and I use on a daily basis, especially when we're at the gym.

[Kevin Rose]

I used mine yesterday post Sauna, because every time I do sauna, I use Element to rehydrate.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. So we. So. And then I'll get into the sponsor thing about Element, but little side story. Personal, personal side story. So Heather and I have been going to this thing called Lift Society, which is like. It's basically like a class, but it's for weightlifting, like free weights. So it's like a Pilates class where everybody has their own, like, machine, but the machine is a rack of free weights.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

And it's been fantastic We've been going for, like two and a half years.

[Kevin Rose]

No cardio.

[Alex Albrecht]

No cardio. It's all just, you know, we get in. Oh, it's so great. But also, like, screw cardio. Like, I come out of there fucking sweating head to toe. I burn like 500 calories every time I go in.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

And gaining muscle and all that stuff. Anyway, you're looking good. Six months. Thank you. Six months in, I was doing some ab exercises and I was constantly getting Charley horses in my abs. Whenever I would do the ab stuff at the end, classic ab works. And my buddy comes, the trainer, Matt, comes up to me and he goes, you're getting a lot of Charlie horses. And they're like, yeah, fuck, this shit sucks.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

And he goes, why are you taking electrolytes? And I go, how would I know to take electrolytes?

[Kevin Rose]

And he was like, no.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, this is what I'm saying. Hey, let us educate. Because nobody gets hydrated enough. I'm never drinking enough water. That's just part and parcel of me being alive. And also I needed the potassium that you can get in a drink, like Element. And so we started drinking Element and my Charlie horses went away. It was fantastic. So one of the things that's so great about Element is it's a zero sugar electrolyte drink mix. And not only does each packet have 1,000 milligrams of sodium or electrolytes, but it also has 200 milligrams of potassium, which is what I was severely lacking.

[Kevin Rose]

I get those muscle spasms if I don't have enough potassium. Those little tiny little ones like under your eyes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

I hate that shit. Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's potassium, too.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. Get you.

[Alex Albrecht]

So you don't have to worry about that anymore. By the way, both Heather and I's favorite flavor, if you are ordering, is orange.

[Kevin Rose]

I like watermelon.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, interesting.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, I'm watermelon, man.

[Alex Albrecht]

I could do watermelon. I should do it. Yeah. Anyway, so the other thing is, like, look, the proof is in the pudding, right? So they've partnered with Team USA's Olympic weightlifting team. A bunch of Olympic athletes use this. The fricking Navy SEAL teams use it. I mean, anything that's good enough for the Navy seals, I feel like it's good enough for me in my peak physical form.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes. I mean, you're practically a Navy seal.

[Alex Albrecht]

I'm practically a Navy seal. If anything came through the windows, if this place had windows, I'd be under a desk like a baby SEAL anyway. But you can get an offer if you go to drinklmnt.com dig-I g g. You can get a free element sample pack with any purchase. So head over there, give it a try. You'll get a sample pack, find your flavor. You know what I mean? Find your flavor and then just buy a bunch. And also they now have an element sparkling water, right? So it's 16 ounce sparkling water infused with the electrolytes, which I have yet to try, but I now am going to because it sounds amazing. And the other thing is they have a no questions asked refund. So if it's not your cup of tea, that's fine too. All you have to do is just email hellorinklmnt.com and they're going to take care of you.

[Kevin Rose]

Awesome.

[Alex Albrecht]

All right, well, shall we get to the first story? First story of the day, Robotic exoskeletons help Chinese tourists climb the country's most punishing mountain. I love this story because have you seen the videos of the tourists going through? So there's basically this like mountain pilgrimage. And it's not like, you know, climbing Mount Kilimanjaro or anything like that. It's just that there's a. It's called Mountain Tai in eastern Chinese province of Shandong. And essentially what, what I say, it's a great province.

[Kevin Rose]

It's great.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's the best kind of dong. It's my favorite. The mountaintop dong of Shandong. By the way, we should go to China. You've been to China. You did the tea thing in China.

[Kevin Rose]

I did, yeah. All my tea burned in the fire.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah. I keep bringing things up like, that feels so bad.

[Kevin Rose]

I was aging Puarti from 10 years ago anyway.

[Alex Albrecht]

But it's really funny because there's a lot of like social media videos that I have seen over the years of people just full on jelly leg just trying to get. And it's not a steep. It's just consistent, right? Like, it's not like steep stairs. And so people are just like, oh, I want to make it up. Go up to Mount Tai and like, see the thing. And so they just start. And once you start, it's like, you know, what are you going to do? Turn around. You still got to walk all the way back down. So you see all these people with like the jelly legs. And that would be, oh, my God, it would totally be me. Well, a company has started. I don't think they've officially launched the service. It's like a pilot service now, but for between 8 and $11.

[Kevin Rose]

It's like a robo Sherpa. You.

[Alex Albrecht]

You can literally wear your own exoskeleton.

[Kevin Rose]

It looks like it's doing nothing.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dude. No, people are. People are saying that it makes all the difference in the world because it's just enough. Kevin is just enough.

[Kevin Rose]

That is.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's just.

[Kevin Rose]

It's just.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, it's jerking their thighs barely, but it's just enough. That's the whole thing. It's not, you know, it's not, you know, Ripley at the end of aliens. It's just enough.

[Kevin Rose]

You know, when I saw this story, I was expecting, like, a full on, like, of course you were. Like a freaking term.

[Alex Albrecht]

But how great is this? But this is the stepping stone.

[Kevin Rose]

Just enough.

[Alex Albrecht]

And by the way, one of the guys said, it's like I feel like someone is pulling my legs up the mountain.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, I kind of like that.

[Alex Albrecht]

Right?

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. But then how long does it last? What's the battery?

[Alex Albrecht]

Five hours of use.

[Kevin Rose]

Where's the battery pack?

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay, they show it here, I think. Hold on. Yeah. Look, look, look, look. There's tiny battery pack. It's multiple. There's two. There's at least two.

[Kevin Rose]

First of all, that little battery pack is like something you would snap onto a drone that would have 12 hours or 12 minutes of time. Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

But it's just slightly jerking the legs. It's not like it's got a. You know what I mean? It's not like it's. You're using it to lift a tub into a van.

[Kevin Rose]

I want to try it. I want to try it. I would. I would use this. I mean, if they had a more aggressive version of this.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, I think they're setting Everest.

[Kevin Rose]

Be great forever.

[Alex Albrecht]

I would do that with Everest, by the way. Pretty soon, people are literally just gonna get into a mechanical, like, basket with oxygen, and then it's just gonna, like, walk them up on, like, the, like the little atst legs.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, yeah. Return of the Jedi climb with them. But, yeah, I hear ya.

[Alex Albrecht]

They're not really climbing it now.

[Kevin Rose]

I wonder if this is. How much of this is hype versus, like, it's too bad this is in China, because otherwise we'd get them on the show and try it.

[Alex Albrecht]

But I mean, you're. That's an assumption that you can't get them on the show and try it. I feel like we should reach out to this company, somebody.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

And we've got a lot of.

[Kevin Rose]

By the way, if anyone has connections in China. We've. So far we've covered Chinese sex bots.

[Alex Albrecht]

We'd Also like one of those.

[Kevin Rose]

We've covered the mechanical legs. There's a lot of things in China we, We need to go out.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's at least two. That's at least two.

[Kevin Rose]

The new AI is pretty good too. That new one. They came.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah. Oh, Deep.

[Kevin Rose]

What's it called?

[Alex Albrecht]

Deep Sync.

[Kevin Rose]

Deep. Deep Seek.

[Alex Albrecht]

Deep Seek. Something like that.

[Kevin Rose]

R1. Yeah. That's pretty awesome. All right.

[Alex Albrecht]

Anyway, very excited. How are we doing on time now? We're doing great.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. Keep it up. All right.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay, good.

[Kevin Rose]

Next story of the day. Wanted to talk about a gaming rig. Oh, yes. And also the Switch 2. So it is gaming season. I've decided.

[Alex Albrecht]

I like that.

[Kevin Rose]

The reason being is that you want it to be. I haven't built a computer since, like, oh, God, dude. Since like the Pentium days. And it's been a long time.

[Alex Albrecht]

I get that.

[Kevin Rose]

And, and I was like, I, I. When you kind of don't have anything and then you're like, well, I should have a little hobby.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

I was like, it'd be fun to have a proper little gaming rig and just like, yeah, blow off a little Steam every now and then. My Steam account and so off my Steam account and then so I started going into a deep.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And you're on a thread with me and Will and we're talking about gaming rigs. So I finally came up with the gaming rig.

[Alex Albrecht]

I love it.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm gonna do the 9800x3D, the new.

[Alex Albrecht]

Not intel, which is good because I think I got the. I can't remember which one. Or the 1300 or 13,000, something like that. It's not been a problem for me, but there's been an issue with the current gen architecture of intel that's like, screwing around.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, I've heard about that.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

I have a patch for it now.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, I mean, that's great. But, like, I understand why you're going amd. Because I've always been amd.

[Kevin Rose]

Chips are faster now.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know, but I've always been hesitant. It's almost like, dude, I love it. Yeah. But it's okay. I'm going. I'm going. My next build is going to be amd.

[Kevin Rose]

All right. So anyway, spec'd it all out. Got a really dope case. I can send out a picture of it. It's kind of.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah. The case is a little bit of.

[Kevin Rose]

Like wood and it looks pretty cool.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's very modern.

[Kevin Rose]

Excuse me. I got an X870E motherboard. I said assrock, but is asrock Is that the name of the motherboard company Asus? No, not Asis. I wouldn't pronounce ASIs like ass rock.

[Alex Albrecht]

I don't know what you're trying to put out.

[Kevin Rose]

Asrock.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's Asus. A S R, O, C, K. Yeah, it's like Asus.

[Kevin Rose]

Have you not seen these motherboards?

[Alex Albrecht]

No, no, no. It's the Raw. It's. It's Asus.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, is this Asus?

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, isn't it Asus? And Roc is their, like, gaming arm, right?

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, I didn't know this was an Asus company.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, look. Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

So I see why you thought Asus Ass Rock. Because I hadn't been in the game for so long, I literally, I believe. I mean, I'm pretty sure manufacturer called Ass Rock.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the Asus.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, it looks like now that I look at the logo, it's the. It's the as Rock. As Rock.

[Alex Albrecht]

As Rock.

[Kevin Rose]

Thank you.

[Alex Albrecht]

Because I think that's like shortened what people called the Asus Rock or the Asus Rock.

[Kevin Rose]

I gotcha. Okay.

[Alex Albrecht]

And so they called it as Rock.

[Kevin Rose]

Listen, whatever it is, it's a very heavy and durable motherboard.

[Alex Albrecht]

What did you end up doing with the monitor?

[Kevin Rose]

I got that.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know we were going back.

[Kevin Rose]

I got the OLED so I could get the deep blacks because each has.

[Alex Albrecht]

You got them.

[Kevin Rose]

That's great. High response time. It was actually. It's actually an ASUS monitor as well. I'll have to get the exact model number.

[Alex Albrecht]

What size did you go with?

[Kevin Rose]

32.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's good.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

And same 16 by 9. No ultra wide.

[Kevin Rose]

Exactly, man.

[Alex Albrecht]

The ultra wide has. Has really with my brain. I get it, I get it, I get it. And I will say, when I first set up my 34 inch, I think mine is actually an Asus or Asus ultra wide. That when I first set it up, it's. It was overwhelming. It felt like I was in a V, I was using VR. Like, it's just like. Because there's so much in your periphery.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

Gaming. I couldn't go back because you see so much. Because you get to see in your peripheral.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

So it's really. It's an interesting thing. I wouldn't go back. However, I could understand not getting to do it in the first place. Cause I don't think not having it is a detriment. But I think once you have it, it's hard to not have it.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, here's the cool thing that makes sense because of the size of it. And because I have no monitors, like zero, I thought to myself, okay, this could always be a backup, like Mac monitor.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Six months from now I'm like, ah, it's not for me. I want the wider one or whatever.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, I get that.

[Kevin Rose]

And then you can always go on Amazon and like, damn, a good return policy.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.

[Kevin Rose]

Put it back. But anyway, everything else is pretty standard. Oh, the new freaking video cards.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, that's the next step. I know we're working on trying to get.

[Kevin Rose]

So what I did is rather than get. Cause obviously there's a brand new video card that Nvidia just came out with.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, so you didn't get the night. The 50 90s, is it?

[Kevin Rose]

The 50 90? Yeah, yeah. So I did not get the, the hottest one because I did the.

[Alex Albrecht]

What did you get?

[Kevin Rose]

Well, it's dropping, right? I mean, it's coming out right now.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And so I went out and I was like, okay, I'm going to get the brand new one. Like, you know, because of course I want the dope video card. And dude, it's going for like 40 or 50% over retail.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah, I know.

[Kevin Rose]

You're like five grand for the car.

[Alex Albrecht]

I'm like, no, no, no, no.

[Kevin Rose]

And so my theory is it's going to take about six months for those prices to normalize. Right. Because the supply, demand side, blah, blah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, and it's also gen where there was a big crypto thing. Right. They're not really optimized for crypto mining. So I think that has tamped down. So now it's just people who want them for video games.

[Kevin Rose]

Exactly. So what I did is I stepped down like three cards and I, and I just went and got like a, a good like a four. I'll tell you exactly which one it is. But I just got a very standard card because I figure like, you know, if I'm going straight in on like, let's just.

[Alex Albrecht]

This is all going to be new, man. You're going to be like, right.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm going to be blown away regardless. And then when I get a better card, I'll even be more stoked. But like, I'm largely just playing, playing like Diablo and shit.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

It's not like I'm pushing like the shit out of the card. So I got a 4070 OC overclocked edition.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah, that's great.

[Kevin Rose]

I mean it's, you know, it was 600 bucks.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, that's perfect.

[Kevin Rose]

And it's, it's gonna be fine. Right?

[Alex Albrecht]

You don't need much more than that.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, I mean, I'll just use that for the first, you know, four or five months until the prices come down, and then flip over the big plus.

[Alex Albrecht]

You're set. Right. You built the PC so that the moment you're ready to upgrade to one of the 50 series, you don't have to do anything except pull that one out.

[Kevin Rose]

Put that one in that' I was wrong about the display. It's a 27 inch.

[Alex Albrecht]

I was going to say, I was like, 32 is pretty big.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. So in 27, it is the Asus Rog. Rog Swift.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, it's Rog, not Roc. Interesting.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, See, that's the. That's the other series. So I don't know if Asrock is owned by Asus or not.

[Alex Albrecht]

I think it. It's got to be. It's the same logo, too.

[Kevin Rose]

Asrock owned by Asus. Yes, Asrock is owned by YouTube. Oh, it's owned by Pedatron, which is.

[Alex Albrecht]

Part of the Asus Asus group.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay, well, you know, there we go. Pedatron. What a horrible name. Pegatron. That's even worse.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, it's less of sounding like a.

[Kevin Rose]

Pedophile than it is World, which is.

[Alex Albrecht]

Like, nobody takes Pegasus and goes to Peg World.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, it's called the Pegatron.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, the Pegatron.

[Kevin Rose]

That is worse. Yeah. Like, if there was going to be a actively worse.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, it's actively worse. I get it now. I thought you said Pegasus. I didn't know. Pegatron is not.

[Kevin Rose]

You probably change your name at that point if you're a company. You're like, eh.

[Alex Albrecht]

Although this is the thing, because it's a Chinese company. Do they get that Pegatron means Pegatron. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think about this sometimes where they're like, you know, welcome to masturbation, you know? Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Station.

[Alex Albrecht]

You're like, that's not in English. That's not good. Yeah, yeah, but you're the master of the Station, right?

[Kevin Rose]

Right?

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kevin Rose]

I think it's fine. It's fine.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's fine. It's fine.

[Kevin Rose]

Pegatron.

[Alex Albrecht]

Pegatron's fin.

[Kevin Rose]

All right, so Switch 2 is very exciting to me.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yes.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm a huge Nintendo fan.

[Alex Albrecht]

As per your Halloween costume.

[Kevin Rose]

As per my Zelda Halloween costume, which is now burned.

[Alex Albrecht]

I can't bring anything up. I love that you said. I'm just kidding. Like you had it in your car. Just in case.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, it's Actually burned. It's gone. So it's a master sword. Thanks for bringing up. So let's compare the two. So the one thing I will say, Obviously it's been 20 years since the switch has come out.

[Alex Albrecht]

20 years.

[Kevin Rose]

No, I'm joking. But it's been a long time.

[Alex Albrecht]

I was like Jesus Christ, how old am I?

[Kevin Rose]

The Switch came out like it has to have been 10 years. Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

2016 maybe. Which is very close to.

[Kevin Rose]

I don't know. Anyway, so we went obviously still same ARM architecture. They went to 8 cores versus 4.

[Alex Albrecht]

2017.

[Kevin Rose]

No big jump there. Still sticking with Nvidia GPU which is great. Obviously a better one. The Cuda cores. Interesting. So before the old 1 was 256 in terms of the GPU cores. 1536. So pretty decent leap there on the.

[Alex Albrecht]

Switch which is so cool because that size monitor is like the perfect monitor.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

And then most of the time when you're plugging it in, even in hd, like you're not. It's not like, you know what I mean? Like it's just the graphics look great because you don't. That was always the move with Nintendo once they did the Wii where it's like we're not going to. Yeah. And we're not going to compete with these big companies that are just bounding out like crazy. High end Unreal Engine 17 and all this crazy stuff. They were like, let's just make really great games because that's what Nintendo does. And they fucking killed it.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. I mean everything spec wise from device to device is pretty much more or less tripled. Like The RAM went from 4 to 12. The RAM bandwidth went from 20 to 68. Storage went for 64 gigabytes to 256 screen size. They did have a 7 inch OLED which they came out with, you know, maybe a year or two ago. It's been a couple years. And they jumped up to a 8 inch now at 1080p which is nice. It's just, it's a great. You know they've kind of sanded down all the rough edges on this device in terms of like the controllers, how they work and all that stuff. Everything looks good.

[Alex Albrecht]

I saw the video of like the like the snap side stands. Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

One of them actually can work as a mouse now which is crazy. Which came out in a patent which is pretty exciting. But the thing that I'm curious about is like I've heard that Microsoft is kind of throwing in the towel. You mentioned this.

[Alex Albrecht]

So Microsoft.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. So what's the deal there.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, they basically just went, we are not necessarily gonna have the Xbox exclusives not go over to Switch. I mean, they basically went, there's a whole platform. That's fantastic. They're getting their assets. I mean, really.

[Kevin Rose]

They haven't really won the Xbox, like three to one or some shit.

[Alex Albrecht]

That was always. The console wars were always that way, you know what I mean? Like, I was always like, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

But Microsoft had a fighting chance there for a minute.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, dude, when the first Xbox came out with Halo, like that was. And it had all the stuff. It had like built in Ethernet, which. The first ps. The PS one.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, I guess you probably did these.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, dude, I loved it. It was great. Because you could do lans. LAN parties.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Crossover cables, man. I had crossover cables, dude. We used to have. We used to have LAN parties where my friends would bring their CRT televisions and their Xbox to my apartment in Brentwood. We would run crossover cables through the heating duct so that two of us were sitting with our own TVs, our own Xboxes in my bedroom and two of us were sitting with our Own TVs, our own Xboxes in the living room. And holy shit. Pre. Like, good online games.

[Kevin Rose]

Right? Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

It was fucking killer. Remember the old days where you used to have the piece of cardbo. Like whenever you would do.

[Kevin Rose]

I've had cardboard before.

[Alex Albrecht]

You would do the competitions between two people on the split screen. And in order to not keep looking up, you would literally put a piece of card, like a big piece of cardboard. And someone would sit low and then someone would sit high and you'd play. Fucking love those days. I miss those days.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, you know what?

[Alex Albrecht]

Talking on Discord is great and I still do it all the time, but like, nothing beats that. Like, we gotta.

[Kevin Rose]

We gotta find. Here's the deal. Here's my promise to everyone out there. Once I get this PC built built.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yes.

[Kevin Rose]

Let's you and I find it multiplayer game and do a dignation event multiplayer.

[Alex Albrecht]

Game thing with everybody watching 100, we could probably find.

[Kevin Rose]

What would you want to play? I mean, I love Counter Strike.

[Alex Albrecht]

So many.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm probably Counter Strike. I know you get smoked.

[Alex Albrecht]

I've been doing Apex Legends. If I'm doing shooters.

[Kevin Rose]

Look at ass and giving me. First of all, Aston's rocking the dad shoes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Everybody's got dad shoes.

[Kevin Rose]

Someone got the memo.

[Alex Albrecht]

He had to one up me new battle.

[Kevin Rose]

The second I walk in the door, you know, I'm like, hey, what's up, buddy? Haven't seen you in a While. Good to see you. And then he's like. I'm like, cool, dad shoes. And he's like, these were the ones that Steve Jobs actually wore. So that's exact model.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's amazing.

[Kevin Rose]

Do they still sell those or. You have to buy them.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's amazing. That is. That is the official dad shoe.

[Kevin Rose]

I mean, that's.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yours are just dad shoes. I know.

[Kevin Rose]

Mine have nutsacks in the back.

[Alex Albrecht]

These are.

[Kevin Rose]

These. Those are real.

[Alex Albrecht]

They do look like camel toes.

[Kevin Rose]

I think there is a camp. There's a massive.

[Alex Albrecht]

There's a massive camel toe in the back.

[Kevin Rose]

It's a little embarrassing now that I look at it, but it's okay. Squeezies. Anyway.

[Alex Albrecht]

All right, well, let's. I'm excited for the switch, too. I know he's excited about the Switch 2, but I'm also about. Excited about our sponsor 2.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes. Which I believe is our second and last sponsor.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. Second and last sponsor of this episode of the day.

[Kevin Rose]

And we're stoked. I'm stoked to have the sponsor back again. Delete me, because they. Back in the day, I don't do sponsors on the Kimmero show anymore just because I don't do that frequently. But they were kind enough to sponsor that show. So I have a lot of experience with delete me largely because I'm concerned with personal privacy. I mean, obviously there is a whole slew of these data brokers out there that get our information from data breaches that happen when there's hack attempts or whatever it may be. You can get your address and get your name, all of your details can get out there. And then sadly, unfortunately, they are sold and resold. Now you can go to these brokers and, like, kind of like one off request and, like, do, like power of attorneys and shit and like, get them to, like, take them down. But it is absolute pain in the ass.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And so the reason I like to leave me is because it's one service. You give them your info and then they proactively monitor and go out there and get this stuff removed from the Internet so that you just can stay private.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

You know, it's like nobody wants to have their stuff all over the net and be able to be looked up.

[Alex Albrecht]

Their service is in their name.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. So, yeah, Anyway, I've never stopped using them since I had them as a sponsor on the Kevin Rose Show. So I still have an account that I use actively and I have my sister on there and my wife, obviously my kids and all that.

[Alex Albrecht]

They have these should sign up.

[Kevin Rose]

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[Alex Albrecht]

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[Kevin Rose]

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[Alex Albrecht]

Dude, I am on it. I am on it. All right, let's get into some science, shall we?

[Kevin Rose]

Let's do it.

[Alex Albrecht]

Solar powered device captures carbon dioxide from the air to make sustainable fuel. So I'm sure people have heard about these things called ccss or carbon capture and storage processes, right? Where essentially they're making these big open devices that basically suck the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and then store it. Right? The problem is that, as great as that sounds, a, it takes an enormous amount of energy to do that. So it's not just like you pull one carbon out and it goes into the ground. That's great. There's no carbon. It's like, well, you're pulling a carbon out, but it kind of costs you a little bit of carbon, maybe not a full carbon to do that process. And also you have to store it somewhere. It's not like we can like, shoot it, you know, it's not like, what was it, Superman iv where he just like, threw all the nuclear weapons into space.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, yeah, that's one of the big Batteries? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

So it's like, you know, you can't really just throw carbon dioxide into space as much as we'd like to. So what these guys at Cambridge University discovered was they built this solar powered reactor that essentially has like this sponge mechanism that during the evening it's like over overnight, it sucks in all of these, all this carbon dioxide. And then when the sun comes up, the solar panels get hit. And what it does is it uses mirrors to like focus the power of the sun onto these things. And it makes this thing which, this substance which is called. Let me see if I can find it. It's called like solar syngas. So it's basically a synthetic gas. It converts CO2 into this solar syngas and they can use that synthetic gas to make hydrogen, they can make fuels, they can do all this stuff. Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

So it reuses to power cars, planes and more.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. So essentially what they can do is if they get this to work on scale, this is just now something that's working sort of locally. What it can do is it can overnight suck carbon dioxide out of the air, convert it to the synth or the solar syn gas, and then they can use that syngas to then produce fossil fuels that can be used by our current systems, but not generate carbon dioxide.

[Kevin Rose]

But aren't we just doing the whole cycle all over again?

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, no, because it'll be doing things like hydrogen fuel. So it'll be like all these things.

[Kevin Rose]

That then slightly cleaner fuels from the sink.

[Alex Albrecht]

Definitely cleaner fuels than fossil fuels. But it also then kind of one of the things that people said in this was they were like, look, this is a great idea. But the problem with carbon capture is it's not really attacking the problem that we're generating too much carbon dioxide. So it's like, is it a band aid? So it's like it's got to go hand in hand with other things. But I just love the idea that now we're going to be able to take, because that's, you know, as a kid you're like, well, why don't we just take the carbon dioxide out of the air, do something with it? And the answer is nobody knows what to do with it. You know what I mean? And burying, like, I think currently some of the CCS systems are capturing carbon dioxide and fucking burying it.

[Kevin Rose]

It's almost like nuclear waste.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. Which feels like that's not really helping the planet grow into its utter utopia.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. It just sounds like it's a lot of work.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, it is, but somebody else is Doing it.

[Kevin Rose]

It's a good point.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, Kevin, we're not doing it.

[Kevin Rose]

We're not doing it. Definitely not doing it.

[Alex Albrecht]

And by the way, but you could see like I would say like there's a world in which like safe, small nuclear, which I think might be a thing, you know what I mean? Like, I think there's a world where everybody's house, or maybe even small sub grids as they say, where like, you know, your neighborhood might be powered by a single small self contained nuclear power plant.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

I could see these things being installed like on people's roofs. And think about this, think about like your electric bill. You get like a 50% off on your electric bill if you install one of these CO2 devices, you know what I mean? That's just sitting on your roof. Like, who cares? I mean, I got solar on my roof. It's like, I don't. It's just there, you know, Like, I don't think about it. But then also you can think about like where these could be installed in like higher risk areas. Like, I know one of the biggest issues that we have with, with our carbon impact is that there are a lot of places like China and Brazil and all these places where it's not the top priority. It's, you know, fucking India is like smog central. You know what I mean?

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

So it's like this type of stuff then sent to and deployed in places like India where it's the most high impact versus, you know, some place like the United States where we're really trying to be, you know, conscious of it, even though we could do better. I mean, I think everybody could do better. It's an interesting, it's an interesting thing. Yeah. Especially that like what comes out of it is a beneficial product that we could actually use.

[Kevin Rose]

The one thing that I'm always curious about when I hear startups about that talk about this kind of capture and disposal is like this came up a lot in electric cars when it was okay, yes, obviously getting energy. There's a bunch of factors with electric cars, but one of them is like, okay, what's the source material of the energy coming into the car? Of course, because if it's coming from a coal plant that's burning down the street, it's not really green. Right. And then also, what's the payback time to break even? Meaning, like it costs a shit ton of carbon to make that car in the first place. The batteries, everything else. And actually if you spent, call it average ownership of a car is like seven Years or something, or six years, whatever it may be. Are we actually at break even? Because it's going to take years and years and years to actually just even pay back the debt. And I know there's net zero plants and all this stuff and carbon offset credits, which are kind of bullshit a little bit. It's always. There's so many devil in the details on this chick, dude.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know it's so hard, but this is why I think things like this, things like having an electric car, things like having solar on my house, they're just stuff that I get to go. Yeah, I'm doing a thing. But also it's, you know what I mean? Like I get to go, I'm doing my thing. I'm doing my thing.

[Kevin Rose]

But it's more than that though. I think what it is, is, is it's like any novel new technology that comes out that is, that is not mass consumer meaning like you don't have, you know, millions of people using it overnight.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

The early adopters are doing a very important thing and it's not so much your impact on the environment, but what it is, is it's, it's signaling and it's also eventually reducing the cost and barrier to entry.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, dude.

[Kevin Rose]

Because Tesla is why. The reason why they started off with a hundred thousand dollar roadster was because, you know, that was a way that they can make a car and be break even. They knew batteries weren't, you know, didn't have the range, they didn't have. They knew they were fast as shit.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And then you get to scale and eventually you get these things down to where it makes sense for the everyday person. I mean there's so many technologies that are like this. Like, you know when, when airline travel first started.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Especially with jets.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

It was like a thing where people wore suits and ties. 100 because it was a very expensive, luxurious thing to be able to travel on a jet. And now we have, you know, Southwest tickets to Florida for $75.

[Alex Albrecht]

Spirit Airlines, you can just stand in the aisle for 10 bucks and get anywhere you want free.

[Kevin Rose]

Like they'll pay you to use their service.

[Alex Albrecht]

Like you just have to carry somebody else's bag.

[Kevin Rose]

Spirit is horrible. Do we all admit spirit is horrible?

[Alex Albrecht]

I'm pretty sure.

[Kevin Rose]

Have you been on a Spirit flight?

[Alex Albrecht]

Thankfully not. I have been a lot that I can remember.

[Kevin Rose]

I took one to Bogota.

[Alex Albrecht]

Why would you. What?

[Kevin Rose]

Because it was my friend's cheap and he booked us on it. It was a bachelor party. Good bachelor party.

[Alex Albrecht]

But I Mean, we all know what happens in Bogota. Hey, Bogota. You know what I'm saying?

[Kevin Rose]

It was.

[Alex Albrecht]

I'm really excited about the. What is it? The. Oh, God, what's it called? The X1 or what's that? There's a new supersonic jet company.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

That they just went supersonic on the test jet for the first time in like four days.

[Kevin Rose]

I would not be taking that.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, dude, I'm so, so in. You would go here to like LA or here to like London in three and a half hours.

[Kevin Rose]

I'll sit there for four and a half. Why?

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, I'm gonna have Xanax and sleep anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

[Kevin Rose]

I guess if you're taking Xana, you're just gonna zanny down.

[Alex Albrecht]

But like, overture, it was the boom X1, right.

[Kevin Rose]

I remember back in the day, you were like, my dad flies to the Concorde or he's flown the Concorde before, and then the fucking thing goes down.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, thankfully he wasn't on it. Yes. Secondly, it was. I think it was. He was on the first flight. Cause he was stuck in London and had to get back. And he was on the first flight back, like the first flight that the Concorde flew after the accident. And my dad was like. Because my dad flew a lot for work and so I always asked him, I was like, well, did you ever get afraid of flying? And he was like, nah, nah, it's fine. I did ask him once and I'll have to double check, but I did ask him, I said, well, what's the, like, scariest thing that's ever happened? And he goes, well, we landed once and we skidded off the Runway and tipped onto the wing and slid to a stop. That was pretty gnarly.

[Kevin Rose]

In. Not in the Concorde.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, in the commercial plane.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, I think I see that's.

[Alex Albrecht]

But this is also probably, you know, 80s 90s, whatever.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, they didn't have the tech we do now. Although there's still bad happening all over the place.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know there's a couple.

[Kevin Rose]

Let me ask a question.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

There's. There is the flights that can obviously shave off, you know, a half hour, 45 minutes, whatever it may be. Yeah, that's one thing. I want the teleportation where you walk.

[Alex Albrecht]

Through, I mean, and then you're on the other side.

[Kevin Rose]

But let me throwing it out.

[Alex Albrecht]

10 years from now, 10 years from.

[Kevin Rose]

Now, AI figures it out.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, you want to trust AI being like, stand in here and I'll recombulate you in London.

[Kevin Rose]

This is my question.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay. There's one right over here.

[Alex Albrecht]

Just stand right there.

[Kevin Rose]

Right here, and it can take you to London.

[Alex Albrecht]

That sounds fine.

[Kevin Rose]

A few seconds, it'll get you there.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dude, lunches open up everywhere.

[Kevin Rose]

One in a half million.

[Alex Albrecht]

Half a million, your penis is on your ass.

[Kevin Rose]

Sorry.

[Alex Albrecht]

Or something.

[Kevin Rose]

Whoa. And. Oh.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's the only thing that ever goes wrong.

[Kevin Rose]

Do you remember?

[Alex Albrecht]

But then you just gotta wait until it goes back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. When his head turns around. Who didn't tell me I had such a big ass?

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like you walked in the portal and, like, something's completely disconfigured.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay, but can they fix it?

[Kevin Rose]

No, I mean, I don't.

[Alex Albrecht]

Maybe.

[Kevin Rose]

Give me a maybe. I'll say no. One and a half million. Would you walk through it?

[Alex Albrecht]

1 in 500,000. I would definitely walk through it once just to be like, I can't believe I fucking teleported in my lifetime. Because the likelihood that your penis is.

[Kevin Rose]

In your ass, but then you get hooked on it, right? Because then you're like, ah, I'm just gonna London today. All of a sudden you've done it 10,000 times. And then like, your odds. And then all of a sudden it's like, boom, dick, unicorn, forehead. You check for house flies in that pot.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

There's a story from two days ago. Teleportation achieved between quantum computers and World First.

[Alex Albrecht]

So, see, we're getting there.

[Kevin Rose]

Mal saying, teleportation.

[Alex Albrecht]

Teleportation. How many dicks were lost in that experiment?

[Kevin Rose]

It says only two.

[Alex Albrecht]

Only two dicks lost. So, you know, that's great.

[Kevin Rose]

That's the kind of stuff.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, you would totally do that. Come on. If somebody said, like, here's a thing.

[Kevin Rose]

Forget. Well, does it mean death, though? Like, real talk, it's not just gonna be a penis on the forehead? Like, does it mean that, like, I lose an arm?

[Alex Albrecht]

Here, let me put it this way, okay? What if the. The likelihood of dying through teleportation was the same as flying commercial?

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, I would do it then. 100%.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

It was so great.

[Kevin Rose]

The best.

[Alex Albrecht]

Just like.

[Kevin Rose]

What if it was half, though? If it was like, half, like, meaning it was double the risk.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, still double the risk. Safest thing you do is fly.

[Kevin Rose]

Safer than driving a car.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, but is it double safe as.

[Kevin Rose]

Same as dying in a fatal car accident?

[Alex Albrecht]

I would totally do it. I drive my car all the fucking times. I'm taking a car from here.

[Kevin Rose]

Same as colon cancer. Cancer.

[Alex Albrecht]

I do get screened for colon cancer.

[Kevin Rose]

That's like one in eight.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's one in eight.

[Kevin Rose]

It's something bad. It's like, it's pretty high.

[Alex Albrecht]

That. That seems extraordinarily high. One in eight people die of colon cancer.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, I mean, it's. It's. It's not that bad. It's. 1 in 24 men die of colon cancer. No. They get it in their lifetime. Yeah, see, I wouldn't do that.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, I wouldn't do that. One in 25, you just. I'd be sitting in the waiting room looking at, like, which one of us is going to die?

[Kevin Rose]

Exactly.

[Alex Albrecht]

Literally 24 people. They're like, in the next. In the next 25 minutes, one of us is gonna die.

[Kevin Rose]

That's not worth it.

[Alex Albrecht]

God, Dad's like Hunger Games.

[Kevin Rose]

There's the philosophical question of what if? The way it works is it makes a copy and then destroys the one on this end, so it makes the prestige the original. But are you in the new copy or no?

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, that's the. That's the whole thing with the prestige. Are the.

[Kevin Rose]

You.

[Alex Albrecht]

The. The new copy is the same consciousness that you were when you walked in then.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm fine with it.

[Alex Albrecht]

But so is the one that stopped.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, then that one's dead.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, that's. I'm kind of. I'm kind of with him. I mean, as soon as he said it, I was like, oh, right. I will think that I went through, and I will not notice that I died.

[Kevin Rose]

You wouldn't even know that you died.

[Alex Albrecht]

All right. I die. It. I'm in. I would use it too much.

[Kevin Rose]

That's the really interesting thing about death.

[Alex Albrecht]

But then, would they use your meat as, like, a meat alternative?

[Kevin Rose]

Whoa.

[Alex Albrecht]

What? The thing about death is that death might not even exist.

[Kevin Rose]

This is a more.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, I see what you mean. You mean like that our bodies may stop, but the part of our consciousness goes on?

[Kevin Rose]

No, no, no. Meaning that, like, if you. Okay, let's just. God, this is gonna get super heavy.

[Alex Albrecht]

This is great.

[Kevin Rose]

I'll go there with you.

[Alex Albrecht]

Wade in the waters.

[Kevin Rose]

So this is just like, some shit. So if death means the. The lack of consciousness, then the only thing you could ever experience is consciousness. Then the only thing you can ever experience is life.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, I, I. Yes. Yeah. There is no. There's no experience of being dead.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

To you?

[Kevin Rose]

Well, you were never dead. Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

You could never tell me when you were dead. No, no.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

And by being dead, you could never consciously be in the state of death.

[Kevin Rose]

Right. Cause the only Thing you know, is life. No one has ever experienced death. Does it? No one has ever experienced death. Yeah, well, yeah, let's end the episode right there. It's like, very.

[Alex Albrecht]

On that lovely note. That is so fucking. I mean. Yes. Yeah, 100%. We will not understand. Well, no, I mean, you could end.

[Kevin Rose]

So this is where it gets really crazy.

[Alex Albrecht]

But I will say, you sure as fuck could experience dying.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, sure. That's true. That's true.

[Alex Albrecht]

You may not experience death, but you sure as fuck could experience diet craziest shit.

[Kevin Rose]

So that's the part, by the way.

[Alex Albrecht]

I'm not afraid of death. I'm afraid of dying.

[Kevin Rose]

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

[Alex Albrecht]

The slow. The getting hit by a car and being like 20 minutes of, oh, God, it's happening.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm not afraid of dying.

[Alex Albrecht]

I'm still alive.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, I'm mostly not afraid of dying.

[Alex Albrecht]

Mostly dead.

[Kevin Rose]

Because I know that I have enough resources to be pumped with drugs by some good doctor that would be like Michael Jackson the shit out of me if I was, like, going down.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, I see. You're just. So you would. Well, so this goes to the other thing. Let's say, you know, you're going down. You got a couple days, week, month.

[Kevin Rose]

Did I tell you I did the Michael Jackson routine?

[Alex Albrecht]

What is the Michael. Is that the dance routine? You better clarify what you're talking about.

[Kevin Rose]

Good point.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. It was bubbles. And bubbles.

[Kevin Rose]

Baby oil was not involved. What I did do was that doing the Michael Jackson. I had a colonoscopy.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, so you did the Episcopal or.

[Kevin Rose]

Whatever it's called, and the Propofol.

[Alex Albrecht]

Propofol.

[Kevin Rose]

And I went in there and if your anesthesiologist. That puts you under everything. And I was like, what are we using today? And he's like, propofol. And I was like, oh, that's the shit that Michael Jackson died on, you know? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, can you give me the slow ramp? And so I asked, what's that slow ramp means? Instead of being like, boom and you're out, like, just give it to me over, like, 20 seconds kind of situation. Like a little. Little like, push in slow with a little like. Like. Because they're. They're putting it in.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, they're doing a lot. They're pushing a lot in slow when you're getting colonoscopes.

[Kevin Rose]

I know. I didn't mean.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, this is the Michael Jackson routine.

[Kevin Rose]

You didn't mean the.

[Alex Albrecht]

Were you moonwalking?

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, yeah, I. I meant. I I meant that. That. Just the drug itself. And the crazy part was it took me about, you know, typically you, like, lose consciousness within, like, 10 seconds, and it probably was like, more like 35 to 40. And.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dude, did you have, like, the craziest feeling?

[Kevin Rose]

It was the craziest peace I've ever felt in my life. Like, just peace that everything was, like, there was okay. A. Okay. And no fear of death. And I was like, I see how Michael Jackson went.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah. Because he. Well, that's. That is. If you're gonna go. That's a way to go, because you just, like, peacefully go to sleep.

[Kevin Rose]

But it was. But it was also like, I. I kind of felt, like, in some sense, like, not happy for him, but. But I was. I'm glad that he went in peace because obviously, a severely, you know, tortured individual. Who knows what number of fronts.

[Alex Albrecht]

Let me ask you a question about the colonoscopy.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Because I've done one.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

And there was a surprise.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, they found some.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, no. I mean, just, like, the act of doing it. Right. Because I.

[Kevin Rose]

Awake.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, no, Let me get to the thing. Let me stay in the plane. So you're. You're on the gurney. You're in your little, like, swabs. They got the stuff. They, like, check you in, and they're like, okay. And then they walk you into the room.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. Lights. Yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

And I'm like, okay, this is great. And then they get me up on the thing.

[Kevin Rose]

Why did they have to move you? They normally.

[Alex Albrecht]

Because there was, like, a prep. Prep area.

[Kevin Rose]

They're like, turn sideways. So they always say, turn sideways. Yeah, Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

I was like, oh, I have to do this part. Like, I didn't want to be involved in any of this. I wanted to go unconscious and then wake up and then be in bed again. Like, I didn't want to, like, present my ass to the people in the room.

[Kevin Rose]

You have to perk it up.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know, but I was like. I was not expecting that. So if you haven't had a colonoscopy yet, just know why. Is it that bad? It's not that bad. It just was unexpected.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. I did it. Well, yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Because I lay down on the thing, and the guy's like, okay, let's put this in. I was like, great. And they're like, okay, Alex, could you just, like, lean onto your side? And I was like, why? Okay. All right.

[Kevin Rose]

Dude, they're not doing a colonoscopy through your penis.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know, but I just figured, like, just knock me out and do whatever you Want, like, alien abduction. Roll me over, throw me up, get the thing, you know, crank me up.

[Kevin Rose]

It's easier for them.

[Alex Albrecht]

I get it. Cause as soon as they were like, could you roll over? I was like, oh, here's the worst part. It is easier for you, but like, now I'm involved in the procedure.

[Kevin Rose]

No, no, no. I went in mine and there's this extremely attractive.

[Alex Albrecht]

No.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Hard pass. Cannot, impossible. Get her out of there.

[Kevin Rose]

No, yeah, I agree. Because I'm just like, why?

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, they're like. She was like, Mr. Rose.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Albrecht]

Could you please present this way, Mr. Rose.

[Kevin Rose]

You know what? If you're gonna.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, I mean, look, if you gotta do it, why not have a little fun with the propofol, okay?

[Kevin Rose]

So congrats, Michael Jackson, next story. Hope you're well.

[Alex Albrecht]

Rest in peace.

[Kevin Rose]

All right, let's move on to the next story, which is flying insect drones. So we have heard of high speed drones. We have heard of low speed drones.

[Alex Albrecht]

I have not, but I think they exist.

[Kevin Rose]

Have you heard of this new MIT robotic insect like flight record being broken by this little tiny, slightly menacing looking dude?

[Alex Albrecht]

We're gonna get to the. We are so gonna get to the, like, little drone in the sci fi movies that's like the size of a fly, dude. Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

When it came through and it was like, had the poison and shit.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yep. And not only that, but just think of like how small cameras are now, how small microphones are.

[Kevin Rose]

This guy can fly for 17 minutes.

[Alex Albrecht]

17 minutes, that's enough.

[Kevin Rose]

But think about it. This is gonna be like that. 17 minutes is gonna be going to be freaking hours, dude. And smaller and smaller.

[Alex Albrecht]

You're literally not going to be little.

[Kevin Rose]

Drones just like going around and like following you and.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, God. I don't like that. I don't like that. The drones. I've never been a fan. I like, I like drones. Like, oh, we're using it to like shoot a commercial through the hotel. Like, that's cool. I'm like, oh, that's fun. Drone racing. Crazy.

[Kevin Rose]

Drone racing is crazy.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dude, with the goggles on the.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, they're too fast. Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

So fat, I don't even know how the fuck you do it.

[Kevin Rose]

It's cool.

[Alex Albrecht]

Love all that shit. But like, there are times when I'm like, just in my backyard and I hear that.

[Kevin Rose]

Right, right.

[Alex Albrecht]

And you're like, oh, come on, dude.

[Kevin Rose]

Have you seen the drone catchers?

[Alex Albrecht]

No.

[Kevin Rose]

They make these little guns that are almost like those T shirt cannons that shoot out ropes that wrap around drones, like in the air.

[Alex Albrecht]

So what is the legal ramifications of that?

[Kevin Rose]

Nothing.

[Alex Albrecht]

If there is a drone over my.

[Kevin Rose]

Property, yes, you can shoot it with a drone catcher.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, this is my lawyer, Kevin Rose. So you heard it here first. I'm buying one of those things. And if you fly over my house, I'm shooting you.

[Kevin Rose]

Where's my shit? Where's my shit?

[Alex Albrecht]

Like I wanna know. Is that legal to down a drone? Are you gonna ask Santa Claus?

[Kevin Rose]

I got Santa off the phone.

[Alex Albrecht]

Ho, ho, ho.

[Kevin Rose]

Quick question for you. If there is a drone hovering over my property and I have a drone catcher, you could call it a drone catcher. It's like a weaponized version of a snatch net that will launch and capture said drone in the air. Is that illegal? If it's over my property, can I take that drone down and sequester it?

[C]

Laws about dealing with drones over your property vary by location.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay.

[C]

Generally, it's a good idea to check local regulations. In many cases, actively capturing or disabling a drone can be illegal. Even if it's over your property, you might want to consult local authorities or legal advice to understand the best course of action.

[Kevin Rose]

I appreciate the PC answer, but can you look up on the Internet, LA law and tell me if in Los Angeles I can capture a drone that's over my house? It's getting really close down. I'm a little scared.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dialing 91 1.

[Kevin Rose]

Sorry. Keep going.

[Alex Albrecht]

You should.

[C]

You should probably contact local authorities or 911 if you feel unsafe.

[Kevin Rose]

No, that was. That was Alex saying 91 1. We don't want to call 91 1. I just want to know. I've got. Got the device aimed at it right now, and I just want to capture this drone and make it my own. Can you check and see what the rules are in la?

[C]

I understand your concern. However, it's best to avoid taking action yourself, capturing or interfering with a drone.

[Kevin Rose]

Wait, wait, wait. I just shot the drone. Now it's on my property and it's buzzing. It wants to be put out of its misery. I have a shovel. Can I. Can I destroy it completely?

[C]

I'm not a legal expert, but you might want to avoid damaging the drone and contact local authorities to handle the situation. They can provide guidance on the best course.

[Kevin Rose]

It has. It has a countdown clock. It appears to be some type of explosive drone. I'm worried it might blow up. I don't have time to contact legal authorities. Should I throw it into my neighbor's yard?

[C]

This sounds like a very dangerous situation. If you believe there's an Immediate danger. You should distance yourself.

[Kevin Rose]

There are. Wait. There are two wires. A red wire and a black wire and a yellow one. Given your expertise.

[Alex Albrecht]

Black.

[Kevin Rose]

Sorry, there's three wires. Given your expertise in disarming bombs. I really need your help here. Don't tell me you're not going to answer my like. Just help me. Which wire should I cut for the best odds of not blowing up? Up. MacGyver. Look at MacGyver data.

[C]

I'm not a trained professional in bomb disposal. Please prioritize your safety and contact emergency services immediately.

[Kevin Rose]

It's too late. It's too late. We died. We're dead.

[Alex Albrecht]

We dead.

[C]

I'm really sorry you're feeling this way.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay, the best chat. GPT did not. They didn't need to be. MacGyver. GPT.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, that would be great.

[Kevin Rose]

You know what I mean?

[Alex Albrecht]

Like, just. Actually, we should make that. All you have to do is just feed in the scripts of MacGyver and just be like, what would MacGyver do in this situation?

[Kevin Rose]

Situation you're taking care of.

[Alex Albrecht]

First step, take out your pocket knife.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Albrecht]

And some duct tape.

[Kevin Rose]

I love it.

[Alex Albrecht]

MacGyver.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, I got a good story.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know you do. Well, let's hold on.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay, Go ahead.

[Alex Albrecht]

All right. Starbucks new boss is banking on mug hugs to get customers to hang around longer. So this is interesting. We were talking about coffee.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, we gotta get Alex another glass of red.

[Alex Albrecht]

Of champagne.

[Kevin Rose]

You want champagne?

[Alex Albrecht]

No, I hate champagne. You like champagne? Do you want champagne?

[Kevin Rose]

I need to save myself.

[Alex Albrecht]

Save yourself from more. Let's do another round. Let's do another round.

[Kevin Rose]

Another round. What did you have? I just had a water.

[Alex Albrecht]

A tequila.

[Kevin Rose]

It was just a tequila based drink.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay. One of the.

[Kevin Rose]

Like a margarita.

[Alex Albrecht]

And mine was.

[Kevin Rose]

It was the dow of wine.

[Alex Albrecht]

It was Dao Dejing Cabone. Thank you, Mao.

[Kevin Rose]

Which great book, by the way. Pick it up.

[Alex Albrecht]

So here's the thing. We live next to a Starbucks.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes, I know you do.

[Alex Albrecht]

So I've seen the ebb and flow of that Starbucks over the years. Like, crazy, right? So, like, I remember a lot of the. A lot of changes that they're going to roll back. So Starbucks has a new CEO.

[Kevin Rose]

What does the ebb and flow of a Starbucks look like? So like a peppermint latte get discontinued.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, yes, that's the ebb, but. But honestly, like, there are certain things and this guy is talking about bringing some of these things back. So, like a good example is I remember when they took the. What they call the condiment bar out. So there's no more place where you put in milk, where you put in sugars. So if you want sugars in your coffee, you have to ask the barista.

[Kevin Rose]

That's fair.

[Alex Albrecht]

And they'll put it in.

[Kevin Rose]

I thought you meant they got rid of the little sandwich and little snack.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, no, they still have sandwich and snackies. But also the rise of the mobile orders has been crazy. When I go into that Starbucks, there's like three or four people sitting and like 15 people standing by the bar waiting for their mobile order.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, interesting.

[Alex Albrecht]

The other thing is now because of the volume, they print all this stuff on labels. So there's no more hand drawing. Even when you go to order, they don't write your name on the thing. Cause remember, people used to like that where it was like, oh, this is my name and this is like, oh.

[Kevin Rose]

Have a good little cup.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, there's like a little. It was interesting.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

So one of the things that this. A couple of the different things that this guy basically said on a Q1 earnings call where he was like, I've sort of coined the term internally called the mug hug. And essentially he was like, we've lost the sort of charm of it being a coffee shop. And we've kind of leaned into this sort of like mobile quick. Like another one that they did. He didn't talk about this specifically, but another one was like they stopped using the grinders for the coffee and they went to an internal grinder in the device that makes the coffee. So they don't smell like coffee.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

Because the thing that smells like coffee is the grinding of the coffee. Like the brewing of the coffee has a smell, but the grinding of the coffee. So it was like all of a sudden it was like, oh, it doesn't smell like a Starbucks. It doesn't smell like a coffee shop.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, also there's like a very, like, tactile sense of like, I'm at a coffee shop when you hear the grinding, the more intense grinding noise and all that. Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

So what he basically said was he's going to bring back ceramic mugs. So if you're. If you're gonna get a coffee there, you'll get it in a mug. Like in an actual mugs.

[Kevin Rose]

Steal the shit out of those.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, but you know. Cause they want to get people to stay in Starbucks more as it sort of used to be a place that people would like, go and work and hang out where it's, you know, it's still kind of like that. But then they also said they're bringing back the condiment bar so people can sort of make their drink however they want. Once they get it, saves them money. They're bringing back the hand drawing or handwriting of the names on the coffee mugs when you're there. So if you order a coffee, they put a little thing. I know, but it's like, it's all part and parcel of that thing where he wants to feel more. The hug.

[Kevin Rose]

The mug hug.

[Alex Albrecht]

The mug hug. He's also going to. And this I think is going to be.

[Kevin Rose]

Did he mention serving like not shitty coffee?

[Alex Albrecht]

He did not mention that.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay. Because that's probably a top.

[Alex Albrecht]

He also said that they're gonna not upcharge for non dairy alternatives. So I guess right now if you do like a soy milk or oat milk instead of. Instead of milk, you get an upcharge.

[Kevin Rose]

Are you a milk fan?

[Alex Albrecht]

I've never really. I like milk, so I don't need to. I mean, I like milk in my things that need milk. I don't necessarily want to like chug milk.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, but you have like a latte.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah, latte. Cappuccino.

[Kevin Rose]

Macchiato.

[Alex Albrecht]

Macchiato. Arigato. So the other thing, all the other go's. So the other thing that they're gonna do, which I think is gonna be very interesting to see how it goes specifically at the Starbucks that's near me, is they're gonna go away with. Anybody can use the bathroom where they're.

[Kevin Rose]

Getting rid of that.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, you will have to be. You'll have to buy something from Starbucks in order to use the bathroom.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, interesting. I don't think that's a bad idea.

[Alex Albrecht]

I don't think it's a. It's just one of those things that like, you know, like my area, there's a lot of people that use that bathroom, but it's like, you know, let's.

[Kevin Rose]

Be real for a second. Starbucks. A lot of them are oftentimes in places where. Well, I mean, you just can't even avoid it, sadly these days in a big city.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, I know.

[Kevin Rose]

It's just like a lot of homeless everywhere and it's. I have walked into many a bathroom that unfortunately. Oh, it's funny, I was just talking to Craig about this Craig Mod over in Japan about the difference between the homeless in Japan and the States. He was telling me about how the homeless in Japan, they leave their shoes outside of their tents before they go into their little homeless tents. He thinks this podcast will eventually come out, but he thinks that it's largely I Mean, obviously it's very cultural driven, but there's, there's also people that aren't all cracked out.

[Alex Albrecht]

Cause they don't have, like, they don't.

[Kevin Rose]

Have the math, they don't have the problems with all the drugs that we do. But there's also just a respect for one's own personal space. And I have been in many of, you know, whatever when you're doing a road trip or something, you pull over at Starbucks and you get the wrong person in there. And I'm not saying it's all homeless. Could be anyone. And they fuck up the bathroom and it just ruins the whole experience.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And so it's like, what do you do? Yeah, maybe you put a little QR code on the cup and then you scan it when you walk in and unlocks.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, I think it's just as straightforward as, you know, there's a code even now and you have to ask the barista what the code is. They tell you for free. Like they tell you no matter what. But I think now it's just going to be oh, the code, you know, oh, the bathrooms for, you know, I.

[Kevin Rose]

Mean that's just a way of saying that they want homeless people out of, out of.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, and also it's not just homeless people too. Like again, where we are is a sort of high travel tourist area. And so there's a lot of times where a lot of tourists will just go into every, just go into a store. Cause they're like, I just have to go to the bathroom. And everybody just goes, oh, go to Starbucks. So there's a lot of volume of people. I think what he's trying to stop is just a volume of people. Like there are people waiting in line for that bathroom that aren't buying coffee. And he's like, well, let's get rid of those people and then see how that does. Let's figure out how to get people to stay in the Starbucks and not just order a mobile order and bounce and we'll see if that affects. You know, one of the things that we've also felt is like it would be really great to have a really good public toilet in our area. But the answer is like it goes back to the same thing. It's like you just can't do that. Like there just isn't a way. I mean, they have those ones in Europe, right? Isn't it like in Switzerland or Sweden? Sweden, where they, where it self cleans after every, every person goes in like the whole place. Yeah, it's like, the whole place is like, you know, the nuclear clean option.

[Kevin Rose]

You have to do it. You have to do it. I remember one time I was in San Francisco and they have those public bathrooms that you can, you know, I think you put in like 20. It was 25 cents or whatever it was to use it. And then I remember one time a guy just opened the door and I was like, waiting for it. Cause you know, I need to use bathroom. And. And he comes out, he's got a syringe like, still kind of hanging out of his arm.

[Alex Albrecht]

Good.

[Kevin Rose]

Just shot up.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, Lord.

[Kevin Rose]

And I was just like, oh, man. You just don't. You can't solve this problem.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, I know. It's so much bigger.

[Kevin Rose]

It's sadly a drug and lack of mental.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you. Finally. Cheers. Welcome back. Did you say last drink of the day? Valentine's Day. You guys gotta go party.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, I do want a party, but that's a hard.

[Alex Albrecht]

That was a hard. That was a hard turn from, how do you solve homeless drug addict addiction problems too? Hey, you got a party. It's Valentine's Day. Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, why we talking about this?

[Alex Albrecht]

You started.

[Kevin Rose]

You started. It's your story. Okay, let's get into swastikas. Next story of the day. Swastikas. Kanye's favorite symbol.

[Alex Albrecht]

King Kanye.

[Kevin Rose]

So, yay. Started selling swastika T shirts.

[Alex Albrecht]

What a fucking idiot.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

You know, like, like, did he think he was going to sell a lot of the swastika shirts or is it just that he's so. Because, like, that clip has been going around of him on Joe Rogan that was like, how much does the earth cost? And. And Joe Rogan's like, what? And he was like, cuz, I want to. I want to have enough money. I can buy the earth and be its king. And you're just like, I hope he knows how dumb that sounds.

[Kevin Rose]

You know what? It's not a dumb thing.

[Alex Albrecht]

Right? Like, did he.

[Kevin Rose]

It's like the meds thing.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

I think that's what it is.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Because we see these cycles and this is very. You know, sadly it is. And obviously I'm not trying to diagnose Kanye here, but, like, when you see someone go through these ups and downs and these radical swings, it oftentimes is a disconnect with medication that one needs to maintain a certain level of sanity. Because. Because the stuff that's coming out these days is just crazy.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know. I have like, a lady that, like, showed up and he, like, well, his wife, who, like, went to the. Went to the Grammys, and I was not.

[Kevin Rose]

Shame. Everything.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, maybe some of them were good ideas. Kevin enjoyed that one.

[Kevin Rose]

No, I will say that, like, it felt very icky. Because. But, like, let me, like, like, how do I put this?

[Alex Albrecht]

What do I mean by icky?

[Kevin Rose]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Alex Albrecht]

Like, icky.

[Kevin Rose]

Don't do the smackies. The smackies. The audio listeners are like, what is icky? So what. What. What I'm talking about is, like, if both parties. Meaning, like, you know, whoever it may. Like, the. Meaning both sides of the partnership.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yes.

[Kevin Rose]

Are. Are both kind of in on the idea and, like, hey, let's shock the world and do this crazy thing.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

But he. He. He. The way that he stood and, like, looked at her as, like, an object.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah. I definitely feel like that was. It felt like she was like, what should I wear to the Grammys? And he's like, kanye, what if I just go naked? No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That definitely did happen.

[Kevin Rose]

I don't think that was it.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, of course not.

[Kevin Rose]

It was like, you need to do this type of situation. It felt that way to me.

[Alex Albrecht]

They just broke up.

[Kevin Rose]

They just broke up. Oh, shit.

[Alex Albrecht]

Breaking news coming in right now. Hot off the Wire. Mao has told us that they broke up.

[Kevin Rose]

I mean, fair enough. Good for her, dude.

[Alex Albrecht]

Finally, she's like, that was it the last straw. Naked on.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, I mean, good on her for. I mean, she was not. She was your type of woman. You love them titties.

[Alex Albrecht]

First off, everybody loves them titties. No, let's just be clear. Nobody is, like, going, nah, I don't really love. You don't love titties? I don't. How is that possible?

[Kevin Rose]

I mean, I don't hate them.

[Alex Albrecht]

Sure, but you don't love them.

[Kevin Rose]

I. You know me.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know each other long enough. Conversation. So many. We could literally go to a bar, and I could just go, that's for Kevin. And you'd be like, that's for Alex. And be like that.

[Kevin Rose]

Now you be Kanye.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, I wasn't going to say that. Except Kanye, like, personally. No. But it was just. We all have our things.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Ladies could come in and look at us and go like, that one's for me. This one's for me. And I perfectly appreciate that.

[Kevin Rose]

That's right. That's right. Tread lightly. I feel that, like, you know, I, like.

[Alex Albrecht]

First off, I thought you had already gone back to the story, but then you were just, like, so in your head, like, no, no, but I like. And I was like, oh, we have moved on, Kevin.

[Kevin Rose]

No, the problem is, like, when you don't have any drinks for like a whole month and then you have three or two and a half or whatever, add two and a quarter, it's like it goes straight to your head. Right? The best.

[Alex Albrecht]

First off, did you. I made sure that I carb loaded before I came. I didn't load in because I knew I was gonna have. I knew I was gonna have. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.

[Kevin Rose]

I only had one now.

[Alex Albrecht]

Appreciate that.

[Kevin Rose]

Look at that, man.

[Alex Albrecht]

You've been nursing that.

[Kevin Rose]

You've been nursing that. So I will say that I have had a chance to meet the CEO of Shopify. Oh, yeah, he's right.

[Alex Albrecht]

Because the story is that shuttle by 5 dropped him as soon as he posted that.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. So Tobias, the CEO is a very nice guy.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's gotta be so super good, dude. People can basically post whatever they. Or sell whatever they want.

[Kevin Rose]

Sell whatever they want.

[Alex Albrecht]

And then they gotta be able to like, cull through that stuff quick. You know what I mean?

[Kevin Rose]

Shopify dropped them. Yeah, well, rightfully so. It's like, I don't know, it's like, first of all, you weren't selling any shirts. What did you sell? Like 100? Probably a few thousand.

[Alex Albrecht]

But why, like. And, yeah, that whole. Yeah, there's a whole subset of stuff that's happening where I'm like, I just don't get it. Like, who gives a shit what religion? Somebody else? Like, who gives a shit?

[Kevin Rose]

Swastika is not a religion.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, but it's an anti religion. Right? Like, for the most part, it means screw. Like I'm anti religion.

[Kevin Rose]

Many people don't know this. If you flip the swastika backwards, it's.

[Alex Albrecht]

An Indian thing, right? Like an Indian Buddhist thing.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, Buddhist thing.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, yeah. I believe the backwards Hoskins.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's the one he was selling.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. No, no, he was like, I don't.

[Alex Albrecht]

Think he had just turned Buddhist and was like, I'm just going to use this one.

[Kevin Rose]

No, no.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, but, yeah, but it's like, I just. God, for me, I just feel like if you give a. What anybody else is doing, you're not enjoying your life enough. You know what I mean? Like, unless it's coming into my backyard, unless it's somebody beating down my house, I could give two.

[Kevin Rose]

You know what's crazy about the swastika? Is that, like, okay, careful. No, no, no, no.

[Alex Albrecht]

You know what's crazy about the swastika?

[Kevin Rose]

No. Have you Guys ever thought there's, like. There's a few very. Now. God, I want to say this in a way that doesn't get clipped out in the wrong way. I get you, because I'm not trying to say anything here other than, like, there are certain logos.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, it's interesting that, like, an iconography. Because it's a simple iconography.

[Kevin Rose]

Like, I'll take you an example. The Black Flag logo. The punk rock bag. Punk rock band Black Flag. Do you know the logo? Have you ever seen it?

[Alex Albrecht]

Yes, but I can't pull it into my brain right now.

[Kevin Rose]

It's basically just these four. Four shapes that go up kind of like, it's super iconic because of its simplicity.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And it's like, you realize it didn't take. Like, the designer is well known, but it was like, it's almost. This is. There's a lot of people that talk about this idea that. That it's the removal of things from design that is difficult. It's very easy to be additive.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

It's. How can you strip it down to its bare essentials to make something simple, recognizable, memorable, and iconic all at the same time? The swastika is one of those symbols where when you look at it from a design aesthetic, like, forget the history it has, it's just so basic, but yet so powerful in what it is in the terms of the way that it looks.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And if you flip it and look at its traditional use in Buddhism, like, it's a very, like, you know, it represents Buddhist footprints in art and in Buddhist art, and so it's a very positive symbol. Just flip. But no one's gonna know that, right?

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, it now will forever. I mean, you can literally, like, draw a guy walking wrong and just go, ah, shit. It looks like a swastika.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

You know what I mean? Like. Like, it's. It is. It is crazy, and it is. It is a very potent use of design from, you know, the 1930s and 40s. But it's crazy to me that, like, it's just crazy to me that we're even still talking about Kanye West. You know what I mean? Like, that is. How is that guy still even a thing? I mean, I know he's a fucking.

[Kevin Rose]

People of train wrecks. People have turned red.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, God damn it. Until he died, reality TV didn't tell us anything to see the mess. I know. It's why. It's why you get rubberneckers.

[Kevin Rose]

I thought you were wearing Yeezys today when you.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, thankfully they're not. They're much more scientific. These are a apls. They're from a group of JPL scientists that are all runners and they left JPL to start.

[Kevin Rose]

Are you messing with me?

[Alex Albrecht]

No, no, they left JPL to start.

[Kevin Rose]

Why are you petting them like that?

[Alex Albrecht]

Because they're ribbed for my pleasure. Look at that. Snake eyes. Actually, they do look like ninja boots or like. They do. Yeah, like those Japanese without the toe thing. But. Yeah, no, they're APLs. It's a couple JPL scientists that left to make. Make, like, the most comfortable ninja boots running shoes ever. And I have, like, three pairs. I love them.

[Kevin Rose]

I love it. I would wear a pair of shoes like that. Those are cool. Better than my saki.

[Alex Albrecht]

Weird things first off, that I didn't know they had. Well, first off, the sack is pointed towards you.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, for every. When Addison pointed that out, I was like, God damn it. Because it's. Well, it's more of a. Yeah, you're right. It is more of a.

[Alex Albrecht]

It's more of a camel toe. I mean, it literally is a camel toe. I think it's designed from what a camel toe is designed to do, which is spread the weight evenly and beautifully.

[Kevin Rose]

But, I mean, it's a good looking dance shoe, though, generally speaking.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean. Yeah, it looks like a. It looks like a. I mean, I wouldn't know that that was a dad shoe. I would just say, oh, you're wearing, like, running shoes.

[Kevin Rose]

No, dad shoes are supposed to be the ugly shoes, so I don't think they're that ugly. Oh, I appreciate that.

[Alex Albrecht]

Did you buy them specifically to be ugly?

[Kevin Rose]

Yes, I did.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's great. I think we did it.

[Kevin Rose]

All right. Is that it?

[Alex Albrecht]

I think so.

[Kevin Rose]

All right.

[Alex Albrecht]

Do we have any.

[Kevin Rose]

We gotta take another one.

[Alex Albrecht]

All right, if you want to do that one, you can do that one, because I don't want to do this one.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay. GLP1s.

[Alex Albrecht]

Did you read the thing?

[Kevin Rose]

I did read the thing.

[Alex Albrecht]

Okay, good.

[Kevin Rose]

Are causing blindness?

[Alex Albrecht]

No, that's not what this. Read the headline. Read the headline.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay. It says, geo. Well, someone. Anonymous cow. Sorry.

[Alex Albrecht]

There was someone highlighted, says that GLP1 GLP1s link to blindness, not causing blindness.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay, so there was a study that came out that said that GLP1s, which are obviously the very popular drugs these days for reducing weight, like Ozempic and Repatha.

[Alex Albrecht]

And by the way, did you see.

[Kevin Rose]

Govy and all the other ones?

[Alex Albrecht]

Jim Gaffigan. Do you know who Jim Gaffigan is? The Stand up comic. If you saw him, you'd be like, oh, that guy. And he's notoriously a tall, pudgy, sort of pasty white guy.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, I know that guy.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, he lost a bunch of weight on one of, one of these GLP1 things and he just did a show, a standup show called Jim Gaffigan the Skinny. And he was dressed in a tuxedo and he starts talking about him, he was like, these things are miracle drugs. And he was like. And everybody would say like, he was like. They would always be like, oh well, you're cheating, you're cheating. And he goes, I do not play major league baseball.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

He's like, I am a fat middle aged man who's pre diabetic.

[Kevin Rose]

Right.

[Alex Albrecht]

I want to cheat.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Like anything I could use to him. He was like, I'm on a cholesterol pill. Pill. I'm on a blood pressure pill. I'm on a heart pill. And he was like, why is this all of a sudden cheating?

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, I mean I don't think it's cheating at all. I think it's just modern medicine. The one thing that I'm sure. I think I mentioned this on the show. If not, I'll tell you. Let's tell the story now. I've definitely said it on a podcast before, but. So Peter Tia was been my physician for many years.

[Alex Albrecht]

You talked about this on dignation, that he had some. He had access to it before it became a thing.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes. So semaglutide was just a known biohack peptide that you could buy and before it was known as the weight loss drug. It's fantastic for glucose control. And I've always had an issue with glucose disposal, meaning that if I spike up high, I stay higher than most people should. And you don't want that because you want to have, have muscles that are sensitized enough to do the uptake of the glucose and, and get rid of it so that you're back to baseline and it reduces inflammation. Lots of all bad things happen when you have. So I tried ozemic before it was ozempic and in a much lower dose than the big.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, weight loss. Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

But it also. I was getting DEXA scans done at the same time, which are these low radiation scans that you can do that do bone density. They're really important to get done for bone density as you age and also visceral fat.

[Alex Albrecht]

I feel like I need, I feel like I need to go just have you take me to like I'll take you A medical spot and just be like, let's just test everything because it's not gonna be great.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah, we'll take you.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, it might be.

[Kevin Rose]

All right, well, I'll get you the profanol first and we'll be.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah. Let me just slow punch into the butt inside turn on my side. I'm like, Kevin, I don't think this is kind of we were talking about. It feels good. It feels good.

[Kevin Rose]

So basically the one thing, visceral fat.

[Alex Albrecht]

Is the stuff that's around your organs.

[Kevin Rose]

It is the really bad stuff.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

That's linked to all kinds of stuff.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's like when you see those like guys that are like skinny but German guys that have like thick calves. Thick because they hike all the time, but they have this big old gut.

[Kevin Rose]

Right, Exactly.

[Alex Albrecht]

Very dangerous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

So basically we noticed a reduction in my visceral fat. And then also my. I was wearing a Dexcom at the time, which was a continuous glucose monitor.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And my Dexcom numbers were just like so much better.

[Alex Albrecht]

Wow.

[Kevin Rose]

And they look at, they only just look at peaks and how high they get. But also they can track the disposal and they have the whole data set. They have the access to the raw data. You authorize your doctor and they run all these models against it. The high end doctors do all this crazy shit. So long story short, I'm a big fan. I think that in where TIA is leading to and he's. I, obviously he is the master here, not me. But when he talks about them in podcasts more recently, it's less about the big macro dose of these GLP1s and it's more about.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, you tell me about this yet.

[Kevin Rose]

Microdosing it over time. So there was like these two trains of thought. One was, you know, call it like two years ago, which is. Is GLP1 your way up to a max dose, drop all the weight, titrate off, and then just kind of like try and keep it off.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And now what they're kind of realizing, and this is linked back to the story because what they believe is happening is because you're getting your glucose under control so quickly and it's dropping your glucose, it's kind of narrowing some of the blood vessels because there's less pressure and a bunch of other things. And so it's causing temporary degradation in eyesight due to the rapid reduction in glucose coming down.

[Alex Albrecht]

Interesting.

[Kevin Rose]

So it's like you're doing it too fast.

[Alex Albrecht]

So like you're lowering your, like your blood Pressure is lowering. That's good. It's lowering so fast that your eyes can't get the blood that they're used to. That's bad.

[Kevin Rose]

It's not necessarily blood pressure, but it is related to blood flow.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yes, interesting.

[Kevin Rose]

So that's the kind of leading theory here going on right now. So what Atiya has talked about, and this is obviously gonna be dated the second it comes out. So obviously listen to his podcast, not medical advice here and not on his show, but when he talks about these days, it's more like, can we get to this really micro dose, get you the glucose control, get you the slow weight loss that a lot of people want to see from this. So you're not dropping ten pounds a month, but maybe two or one and a half. And it's a 24 month journey, not a six month journey. And that's going to be way healthier for your long term. Because we do know.

[Alex Albrecht]

I mean, that's just makes sense no matter what. Like dropping weight fast is worse than drop. I mean, even, even before these drugs were.

[Kevin Rose]

Exactly. The couple things that are, we do know for certain is that it reduces your rate of heart attack. That's great. You know, there's less strain on your heart and body as you have reduced. They don't know if it's just the fat or cough. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the glucose control is a huge thing. And if you're borderline, like diabetic, like that's massive for you.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's what Jim Gavigan was saying. It's kind of like pre diabetic anymore.

[Kevin Rose]

Let's watch the science where it goes, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here because there are some. And there's a new series of GLP1s. Like, I don't know what, maybe they'll call them GLP2s or whatever the hell they call them, but they're coming out soon. They're gonna be really interesting.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, really?

[Kevin Rose]

Way less side effect profiles. And I'm probably gonna have early access to one that is a sublingual, which means under your tongue.

[Alex Albrecht]

Butt. Tongue.

[Kevin Rose]

No. Yeah, in your butt. No, not.

[Alex Albrecht]

That'd be amazing.

[Kevin Rose]

Turnover. Turn over on your side.

[Alex Albrecht]

The good news is it's not a shot anymore. Bad news is it's an anal suppository.

[Kevin Rose]

I probably would do that over a shot.

[Alex Albrecht]

I think I might do it over a shot too. I don't know why.

[Kevin Rose]

I don't know why. So anyway, it's under the tongue and then you don't get the digestive discomfort from the orals because they do have oral semaglutide right now, but it causes a mess of the GI tract even more so than the shots. But it's a very interesting kind of frontier of science that's happening right now with these drugs.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dude, we live in a weird time. I mean, going back to Japan, it's a weird time. Like, that's the other thing is like, the obesity numbers in Japan is like fucking 4% or some shit. It's crazy. And I was just talking to Heather about this. Cause I was like, you know, there was also the ones. Oh, you know what it was? We started watching and you guys should watch it. You would love it. It's not getting a season two. I'm so sorry.

[Kevin Rose]

That's okay.

[Alex Albrecht]

But it's called Sunny on Apple tv.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay?

[Alex Albrecht]

It's awesome. It's got Rashida Jones.

[Kevin Rose]

I'm gonna put that in my notes here.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, dude, put it in your notes. Sunny on Apple TV.

[Kevin Rose]

On Apple TV.

[Alex Albrecht]

Just watch. Just watch the first episode.

[Kevin Rose]

£ Alex. All brag isn't bear. I love Bear.

[Alex Albrecht]

I don't know what Bear is, but I love that you love my name is in there. But anyway. But it's crazy because, like, there's a scene in one of the episodes where there's employees and that's like over the PA system and it's very heightened. I don't. I'm sure this is not like every company, but it comes from a place of truth where over the loudspeaker it was like, okay, it's time for exercise. And everybody would stand up from their desks and do just like these like, calisthenics.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

And I was like, that shit happens. Like, there are videos of like, especially in like China, there are videos of like everybody getting to the work in China. And they all stand in the parking lot and they all do the fucking calisthenics. And it's like, why don't we do that shit in America?

[Kevin Rose]

Here's something crazy. I went to Japan and I met with the CEO of this company who also is a Zen instructor. And he took me into. He runs a really high end kind of furniture company in Japan. And, you know, multi level, like, massive company, like hundreds of millions of revenue. And he was kind of giving me the tour and showing me all the sustainable furniture and all the beautiful stuff. And it was awesome. And he's like, oh, this is our meditation room. And I expected like, you open the door and there's like, yeah, Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

A yoga mat. Yeah, exactly. Scented candles from three seats going around. What?

[Kevin Rose]

And it's like, anyone can go in there and sit anytime they want and meditate, and it's, like, part of their culture.

[Alex Albrecht]

Wow.

[Kevin Rose]

And I was just like, oh, my God. Why are we.

[Alex Albrecht]

We're sometimes, like, so bad.

[Kevin Rose]

I went to Japan this last time. Yeah. I was just, like, walking around. You remember how clean the streets were?

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And I was like, it's. They're still that way.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And I'm just, like, looking at the streets and, like, there's not a gum wrapper anywhere. Because people care.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And I'm just like, why? I love America so much. I'm just like, why can't we do better?

[Alex Albrecht]

I know. I watched this micro doc on their prison system.

[Kevin Rose]

Ooh, microdocs.

[Alex Albrecht]

Dude. If you ever wanted to feel like. I don't know, it's. And it's weird because it's just like. I don't know if we could ever get there. But, like, literally, their prison system, it's like, there's no doors, there's no locks.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

They don't have. You know, it's just like. Because everybody's basically. They're like, if. Oh, that was the thing because. Hold on. Our stadium lighting went down for a second.

[Kevin Rose]

It's okay. We still got lights.

[Alex Albrecht]

I think it's good. I think it's good. Somebody. There it is now. Okay. Somebody had to wake up. But one of the things is, if you get caught doing something or if there's something, like, nefarious, and all your punishment is to stand in your room, to stand in a little square in your room. But they can have you stand there for, like, 10 hours.

[Kevin Rose]

That's good.

[Alex Albrecht]

But, like, if you think about that, like, I don't want to stand on a single space for, like, 20 minutes. My back would start fucking hurting. I'd be like, I want to sit down. No, you're standing there. That's your punishment. And I was like, fuck it. Like, this is solitary confinement.

[Kevin Rose]

I think it's better than solitary confinement.

[Alex Albrecht]

This is what I'm saying. I was like, fuck, if you're going to get arrested, go to Japan.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. I mean, also, so there's, like, there's this whole story that came out, like, I don't know, maybe a year or so ago where there were. Sadly, there's this, like, loneliness epidemic going on where old Japanese women were committing crimes just so they could get thrown into jail.

[Alex Albrecht]

That happens in Sunny.

[Kevin Rose]

But what's funny is.

[Alex Albrecht]

Literally happens in Sunny.

[Kevin Rose]

When I was thinking about Japanese jails and I was like, Because I've had some Japanese breakfast when, you know, I'm staying at a hotel and I order that Japanese breakfast where you get like little fish and the rice and miso soup and like, like jail. It sounds kind of dope. You know what I mean? Like, just like, you'd lose weight, they'd.

[Alex Albrecht]

Be like, calisthenics, eat well.

[Kevin Rose]

But imagine you, like get in there and they give you a little kimono and you're just like having your little rice bowl in the morning. I mean, I kind of want to go to jail there.

[Alex Albrecht]

I'm just saying this is like a.

[Kevin Rose]

10 year old idea that you. Dude, wouldn't it be dope to go to jail?

[Alex Albrecht]

I remember this from years ago.

[Kevin Rose]

A bunch of mushrooms to Japan and truffles. Truffles. And I was like, what the are you doing, dude? It was not with me. It was a separate trip that he did not. That would matter if it was me or not. But it was like, there were my mushrooms.

[Alex Albrecht]

I wasn't involved in the mushrooms.

[Kevin Rose]

No. But like, it's like if you get caught with that, like the. Maybe jail time or not like tbd. But the, the thing that's the worst part is, like, you would be banned from Japan for a, for almost forever.

[Alex Albrecht]

Like, oh, boy. Yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

And that would suck if you're a big fan, which.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, that's the thing is maybe you wouldn't. That would be the worst thing. You literally go to Japan to get arrested to be in a Japanese jail and they just deport you back here to go to jail.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, you wouldn't go to jail because it was out of their jurisdiction, but. Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Well, maybe they have some friends.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, guys, it's been so fun.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. Happy Valentine's Day, everyone.

[Alex Albrecht]

Happy Valentine's Day.

[Kevin Rose]

This is our last episode prior to doing the live show.

[Alex Albrecht]

That blows my mind. I cannot. I like, I don't even know what it's going to be like to do.

[Kevin Rose]

I know it's going to be like.

[Alex Albrecht]

It'S going to be good.

[Kevin Rose]

Well, I will tell you that there's going to be some crazy announcements that are going to be worth. If you're on, if you're sitting there.

[Alex Albrecht]

Teetering, you're one of four people and.

[Kevin Rose]

You'Re one of four people that not bought a ticket. But you're, you're teetering and you're like.

[Alex Albrecht]

Teetering on the couch when I go.

[Kevin Rose]

Should I not go?

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, you should go.

[Kevin Rose]

Can I spill some beans?

[Alex Albrecht]

No, you Can't.

[Kevin Rose]

I can spill some slips up.

[Alex Albrecht]

No, no, no, no. Look at him.

[Kevin Rose]

You can believe something. Just don't put weird things.

[Alex Albrecht]

He's going to put weird things.

[Kevin Rose]

Don't put, like, chicken liver.

[Alex Albrecht]

He's going to put weird things.

[Kevin Rose]

Okay. Tim Ferriss can do this show.

[Alex Albrecht]

That's not weird.

[Kevin Rose]

Which is great.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Jason Calacanis confirmed to come out early and introduce us.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

We all know him from the all in show. He's going to be wandering the Crown, the VIP area, causing a ruckus. So maybe find. Yeah. Chris Saka is going to join us on stage, which I already tweeted about.

[Alex Albrecht]

Yep. Love that.

[Kevin Rose]

Love Sokka. If you don't people know him from.

[Alex Albrecht]

I have heard that there is going to be Dig Nation swag.

[Kevin Rose]

Yes.

[Alex Albrecht]

Which is crazy because there hasn't been Dig Nation swag in a very long time.

[Kevin Rose]

Some amazing posters. You should.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, my God, the posters.

[Kevin Rose]

Yeah. Posters are great. Mixmaster Mike's gonna be there.

[Alex Albrecht]

Mixmaster Mike's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

There is one guest that shall go unnamed and I won't name them, but don't you just love chicken liver? But that's just. I just love creating exterior work from Mal. But honestly, we're gonna have one guest that when we get up on stage. And the announcement will come a couple days prior to the show. But you all will see that this is gonna be a very special moment for a lot of us. I'm excited, so I'm excited, too. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

[Alex Albrecht]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Rose]

Oh, yeah. I was going to say something.

[Alex Albrecht]

I know you were. I know you were. It's all good. But I will say this. We will see you in Austin.

[Kevin Rose]

Super exciting.