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This week we had on the legendary.
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Ted Danson, who you know from Cheers, the Good Place and a man on the inside. Oh, I should, I should say he's also a podcast host. He has a great podcast with Woody.
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Harrelson, his co star from Shears, called Where Everybody Knows yous Name.
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Anyway, we sat down at the very buzzy and hot new dinosaur in Larchmont Village, Max and Helens. We talk about some of Ted's most iconic roles, his fascinating career pivots, and stories from a life lived fully, both on screen and off. And to get back into the conversation, you're pulling up a chair as we discuss Ted writing a book.
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Somebody asked me, they wanted to write a book about me and they were legit enough like a New York Times writer. The credibility of him was interesting.
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Yeah.
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And then I sat there realizing I should, like you do, share about myself in this format.
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Yeah.
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Which I really love. I really love doing this.
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Yeah.
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So why would I want a book?
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Well, you compile everything and like it's. And then you get those, like those, those middle eight glossy pages that have photos of you as a child.
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There's video, plenty of video. That's right.
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That's right. I'm reading, I'm reading a book about Truman Capote right now because I'm doing a play about Truman Capote coming up. And I'm finding it fascinating to go that in depth with learning about, you know, someone that I feel like I know so well. And there's so much more information, but there is something nice about. Where are you doing this in New York.
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Wow, how exciting.
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It's very exciting. One man. One man show.
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Oh, you stupid. Why?
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It's the third time I've done a one man show that brings fear.
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Just.
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I've heard you say that you're scared Of Shakespeare and theater.
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Everything.
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You're scared of everything.
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Everything. But in the category of theater. Yeah, I think I've told this before, but who cares? I. You know the Atlantic Theater in New York.
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Yes. No, I have listened to this, but tell me again.
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I don't have to, but it scared this.
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You had a panic attack on stage.
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Basically is what happened within 12 seconds of my first word on stage. It was a 20 minute monologue. It was rehearsed for less than a week. I'll give myself some wiggle room.
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Listen.
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Yeah, but the adrenaline, it's like sticking your finger in a light socket and just your whole body goes.
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Yeah. The white room, they call it.
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Yes. And in that Z, you go, I can't believe this.
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It's happening.
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My car's outside. I'll just go, you know, my daughter's in the audience. Should I cry?
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God damn it. Yeah.
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In that.
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Yeah.
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My sweet daughter had to walk me around a city block with a big gallon of water drinking to literally get that amount of adrenaline out of my body. Yeah, I was just shaking. Well, I mean, it was very good after that moment.
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I'm sure it was excellent. Was it a one time only thing or did you get a week?
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I got to do. Yeah.
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And I think you talked about this when I heard you tell the story before. But every night when you got to that point of the monologue, which you said was about 12 seconds in, you had a little mini panic attack in.
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Your body thinking, my sweet friend Neil Pepe, who's the artistic director, and Mary, who runs the school, they're great friends. But he, after, after the opening night of it, very sweetly said, why don't we meet at the theater a couple hours early tomorrow, please, you know. And he got there and I just rehearsing with him every moment I got that, my whole body. But he got me flapping my mouth just on automatic pilot in that two sentence little blip that terrified me. And that night my body went insane, but my mouth kept flapping. What was great about it was it was a monologue about a man, middle management, who's nervously addressing the audience, going through his day, trying to piece together how, why his something horrible. You don't know why. And as he gets going, he takes you back home after his day and his wife said, will you get something from the basement for me? And he would go down and he remembers and realizes that his basement is hell, literal hell, you know? Yeah, fire and brimstone hell. And he's horrified and he comes back out in terror. Won't listen. Gives him the dog to go walk. And by the time he's finished walking the dog, he comes back in having forgotten. So every day is this. So the panic that was in my body made me look kind of brilliant.
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It was appropriate for the character.
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Yeah.
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You weren't playing like a Buddha Zen master.
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So hats off to you.
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I know one man shows are terrifying. I've done a few of them and I have forgotten my lines and have gone up and I've made it through. And yet somehow I'll still go back and I'll do this again.
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I will say like my favorite part.
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About being an actor in general, just not even just on stage, but is doing ensemble work and taking that element away and not having other actors to play opposite of is, you know, not my favorite part about. I would prefer not to be on stage by myself.
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Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Ted shares a story of the unforgettable Tonight show with Jay Leno episode when Cheers ended and we bond over how acting helped us come out of our shells. Okay, be right back. Okay, I have a confession to make. Seafood used to really stress me out. Not because I'm gay.
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No, no.
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We Both had an 11 year run and we finished filming our show in February of 2020.
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Brilliant show. Really. I. I can't say that enough.
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Thank you.
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Really. So good.
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I trust you.
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I trust that you like it.
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Wow. You know how much I liked it?
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What?
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Refused to watch it for the longest time.
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I have a lot of friends who.
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Just started watching Too good, Too good. I need to find my footing and I don't have my pudding right now. So finally I came to reruns and I just devoured it.
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That's incredible. That means a lot.
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Thank you.
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But we finished our run of Modern Family right before the pandemic. And so, you know, you know what it's like when you end a series that's been on for 11 years and people love. It's like you kind of go into this victory lap with. After the show's done and, you know, you do press and all these things. And we were all excited to go on to late night talk shows and. And do press. And we were all on zoom zoom, you know, meetings and zoom press appearances. And I know because I watched this so different than what happened at the end of your run and Cheers because what happened after the. The finale of Cheers was there was a live cast party on Jay Leno.
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This is on them. We were asked to come to the Boland Finch. The bar. The real bar. The real bar.
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Which years took place.
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Yeah.
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And the facade of it is what we used or the outside of the building. We were asked to come at noon and we would do Leno at 11:30 in the evening. We came to do press and hang out and reunite because we hadn't seen each other for, I don't know, three or four months, you know, because it was the final aired show but we had finished shooting it months before. So they invite us. You know, we're a little bit rock and roll. Because Cheers ended up popular and we're in a bar and you think we're going to be sober by the time Leno. There's this wonderful memory I'll never forget. We're all sitting in stools. Ironically, I think the most sober person was Kelsey. Everyone else was just eyes spinning, shit faced, shit faced. On everything known to man. And Jay, who was, I think this was early days. Jay Leno was sitting there last minute, people talking in his ears, doing notes, looking at his notes, doing this hand, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And he puts it down, looks up and goes, oh.
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Oh, my God.
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Falling off your stools.
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We got a lot of flack for.
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It, but I just, I mean, I wish we had had a victory lap like that.
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Yeah.
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Truly.
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Yeah.
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Iconic.
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You will. You are. Yeah.
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No, I mean, we all remain very close and we do. You remain close, but I know you obviously are close with Woody.
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Yes. And we. Dear Lord. I mean, it's so bizarre. George Wendt's not here.
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I know.
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That is still. So. Yeah. Cursed her.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's very strange. May you live a long time and wonder where your.
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Yeah.
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Former castmates are.
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That's right.
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How they're doing. We do stay in touch. We don't hang out all the time because everyone has families and yeah, you know, work and all of that. There's instant love when you see those people you hung out with and you giggled with, you know, all day long for 11 years.
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Truly. I mean, no one will understand what it was like to be part of that white hot thing, except for those other people, the front facing people of that white hot thing. You know, obviously there's a crew of people that were also part of that ride. But to be the face of a head show like that, the only other people that are going to know what that feels like are your fellow cast members. And I think that's a bond that really keeps. It's very special. I feel that with my cast. What did your parents think about this? They were around with this when Cheers.
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Became so successful and so they were thrilled for me. My father always thought I should get a teaching degree in case it didn't work out. My mom was just thrilled. She was, she was in a grand appreciator. I think I got that from her. Yeah. You know, and so enthusiastic about life. So they were, they were happy. And then they bought their first TV so they could watch Cheers.
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So sweet.
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Put a little religious tapestry over the front of the TV until it was time to watch Cheers.
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No. Was it the only thing they turned it on for?
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They, they, you know, they got hooked. Yeah, they got suckered into it, you know, so they.
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One of those huge TVs. That's like a piece of furniture. No, no. Okay.
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Very medium.
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Oh God, it's so good.
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Yeah.
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Very sweet.
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How about yours? Did they get to my.
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Yeah.
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No. Yeah, my parents both were. My mom passed away a little over a year ago, but she was able to, you know, she was very, very supportive of my career. And both of my parents, when I wanted to move to. To New York to pursue theater, they were really, really supportive. But I had been. I have been wanting to do that since I was way too young to even know what being a theater actor was. And so I think that they sort of saw that the writing was on the line wall and that.
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Obviously.
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So happy for you.
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Yes.
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They're really, really proud.
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And you weren't coming home giggling with joy every day from. Yeah. School in Albuquerque. I'm excited.
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Yeah. No, I mean to have some sort of an outlet that. And also I was incredibly shy and I think it really took my mom a while to figure out, like, why does he want to. For the shy kid why does he want to be on stage by himself? You know, speaking lines in front of strangers? Like that was so foreign to her. She just didn't understand how this version of her son was that same version that wanted to do that. And it's kind of the magic of what I think being an actor for me was, that was a safe space for me to be a fully realized version of who I knew I could be. And part of it was, you know, feeling protective, protected under the A character and like being able to disappear into someone else.
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And have license.
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And have license.
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Pissy, funny, angry, sad.
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Yeah. And just hang out with other kids who were a little strange, to be honest. And, like, embrace it is like joining the circus. Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Very, very exciting.
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It is. That's exactly right. And maybe that's what I would have done had I not, you know, wanted.
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To be an actor. But it's very true.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it definitely saved my life for sure.
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Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Ted tells me about co starring with his wife Mary Steenburgen in A Man on The Inside, Season 2. It's kind of steamy and what he's prioritizing at this stage of his life. Okay, be right back. You know that one task you've been putting off since forever? If that task is start therapy, which it is for me, Grow Therapy makes it way easier to finally check that off your list. It's covered by over 100 insurance plans, and you can get started in as little as two days. Therapy can be such a powerful thing, whether you're working through something specific or just trying to understand yourself a little bit better. But actually finding a therapist, that part can feel overwhelming. Overwhelming. Grow Therapy makes it a lot easier. They connect you with thousands of independent licensed therapists across the US Offering both virtual and in person sessions, including nights and weekends as well. You can search by what actually matters to you, insurance, specialty, identity, or availability, and find someone who fits you, not the other way around. There are no subscriptions, no long term commitments. You just pay per session. And if something comes up, you can Cancel up to 24 hours in advance at no cost. Whatever challenges you're facing, Grow Therapy is here to help. Grow accepts over 100 insurance plans, including Medicare in some states. Sessions average about $21 with insurance, and some pay as little as $0 depending on their plan. Visit growththerapy.comdom today to get started. That's growththerapy.comdom availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan. And we're back with more dinners on me.
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I think it's so interesting. My son, he's five and a half, and he is in kindergarten, so he's mixing with kids now from a larger pool. And he's being influenced by. He's experiencing peer pressure for the first time. And he came home talking about how. I don't even remember how old he's five and a half.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Kindergarten. Wow. Something happened at school with one of his friends who's, you know, a very close friend of his, as close as you can be with someone at five and a half. And there was a discussion about, like, things that are for girls and things that are for boys and certain things that my son Beckett, liked. He was feeling insecure about liking because.
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It wasn't what boys should be liking.
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Right.
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Or what his friends like. And even, like, down to, like, I don't want my friends to find out about that because they'll be mad at me. And I almost burst into tears.
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Sure.
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And it's because that's, like, what's tied to Albuquerque. So that version of myself that. That version that feels like, I don't know, I was a version of that kid who wasn't afraid to, like the things that other kids said I shouldn't like, but I paid the price for it. And so to see my son, you know, struggling with those same things and dealing with it in a completely different way, I mean, he sort of did.
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It the opposite way.
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Like, he was like, okay, I don't want anything to do with that, but it broke my heart in a way. And, you know, it's a strange time to be a parent, obviously, in this world where we are now. But also, like, this age is a hard time to parent because you don't know when to get involved and, like, when to, you know, interfere, because I want him to sort of figure out how to navigate the situation on his own. But at the same time, I want him to know that, like, it's okay for him to like the things he likes and not worry about what other people think. But it's like, is that concept even something that a five and a half year old can get at this point? I don't know, but when you ask about, like, what part of me still feels tied to Albuquerque, that moment, hearing that from my. My son, I. I suddenly felt like I was back in Albuquerque and feeling vulnerable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. You know, Mary, your wife Barry, was at one point meant to play my mother in a play at Williamstown Theatre Festival. Beth, who wrote it, Bess, who wrote Liberation? The Hat I'm Wearing.
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Yes.
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Which is fantastic. One of the best shows I've ever seen on Broadway. So Mary was meant to play my mother. I was so excited. I don't know what happened, but she had to pull out. And I first got to meet you and Mary at an event that we were honoring Kristen Bell at. It was some charity event that they were honored Kristin at. And so I finally got to introduce myself to you. We might have met, like, in passing or something, but I hadn't really gotten to say hello. And I, for the first time, met Mary and got to tell her how, you know, I was so excited that she was gonna be playing with my mother.
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So was she, by the way.
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She was to drop out, but I know I've met her a few times, and I absolutely adore her. And I stand with many people who do adore you as a couple. I feel like seeing the two of you together, you could see there's so much love there. I mean, I'm sure you've answered this question in different sort of junkets, but, like, you know, playing in the second season of man on the Inside, someone who's starting to date again, and then have that love interest be the person who you've actually been in a relationship with for 25 years. Must feel wonderful and strange and familiar. And.
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Mary has a different take, probably. And it was so much fun. I mean, it was like going back to our. We had to move out because of the fires and rent a house in Laurel Canyon, which felt very 70s to us. We never really lived there.
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Yeah.
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But it just reeks of that music. Yeah. And everything. And we were shooting in Paramount. Her first film, she was a waitress and got hired by Jack Nicholson and was starring in a movie with him and being directed by him at Paramount Studio. My big thing, Cheers, was Paramount Studio. So it all felt just wonderfully. Young actors. That's so special, so lovely. And we. The material was so great, and we were so excited, and we got to kind of just run lines and da, da, da. We both had studied Mary under Sandy Meisner at the Playhouse. I studied with a student of his, but had the same technique, so we just loved it and really cherished the moments. So it was fun for me. Any kind of love scene or any kind of thing with other people. Yeah. It's like. It's confusing, if you're honest. It's a little confusing, you know, to fall in love with somebody who's not your, you know, your mate. Yeah. And so this, for Me, there's always just a little bit of a. This. It was so cool to fall in love with my wife, Mary Steenbergen, because that's the role and just fall into her eyes. It was so cool. Whether it's. Whether it made the scene better or not, who cares?
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I mean, your chemistry is so good together. I mean, a lot of couples work together and they. The chemistry falls apart on screen. I think you two are.
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But his chemistry is kind of like two good actors and brilliant writing.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's chemistry. Yeah, it's really good writing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's, it's really. It's lovely to see you both. And it's, it's, it's. It's sort of like a version of, you know, the when. When you're an MC nester and you get to, like, kind of, like rekindle romance with your. With your significant other. It sort of feels that way, like, that you actually get to go back to, like, the wooing and the romance. And yes, it's scripted and there's cameras on you, but, like, you know, those emotions are still there. It's really lovely watching the two of you together.
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Yeah, we're lucky.
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Yeah, should be. And you should feel so lucky. But also, I mean, you've worked together with her before and this must feel so different.
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Yeah, I think, you know, even if you thought you were full of gratitude, it grows. And you were. But now with age and experience of this kind of writing doesn't come along all the time. We were so grateful for it too. Which is a fun, fun place to go to work from. Yeah. Full of gratitude. My new favorite word.
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Gratitude.
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No, that's been around for a while.
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Place.
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Curiosity.
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Curiosity.
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I want to stay curious. You know, it's like all this philosophical, enlightened stuff you're getting from me.
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Yeah, I like it the first time.
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There'S a turbulence on the plane. I'm.
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Wah. Yeah.
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You know, whatever I am, whenever I spout enlightenment, I always walk back to my car and step right into some karmic dog shit. It's just, you know, bound to happen.
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That was more from my conversation with Ted Danson. If you haven't heard our full conversation yet, make sure to check it out on Dinner's on Me or this episode of Dinners on Me was recorded at Max and Helen's in Larchmont Village, Los Angeles. Next week on Dinners on Me. You know her from Scrubs, Roseanne and Firefly Lane, it's Sarah Chalk. We'll get into her iconic run as Dr. Elliot Reid on Scrubs and hear all about the much anticipated Scrubs revival. Plus, we gotta ask her about sharing.
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The role of Becky on Roseanne.
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Ooh, so bewitched of her Dinners on Me is a production of Sony Music Entertainment and a kid named Beckett Productions. It's hosted by me, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's executive produced by me and Jonathan Hirsch. Our showrunner is Joanna Clay. Our associate producer is Alyssa Midcalf. Sam Baer engineered this episode. Hans Dale. She composed our theme music. Our head of production is Sammy Allison. Special thanks to Tameka Balance Kolasny and Justin Makita. I'm Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Join me next week.
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In this candid and warmly humorous "Side Dish" episode, Jesse Tyler Ferguson and legendary actor Ted Danson dive even deeper into their recent meal and conversation. They explore acting anxieties, the emotional farewells of long-running television series, intergenerational stories about performance and family, and the uniquely personal experience of working alongside one's spouse in Hollywood. The episode is a companion piece to their full conversation, delivering extra stories and insights from Ted’s storied life on and off the screen.
Ted Danson's Reluctance to Pen a Book
Confessions about Performance Anxiety
Comparing Cheers and Modern Family Finales
Parents’ Support and Heritage
Generation-Spanning Insecurities
Working with Spouse Mary Steenburgen
On autobiography vs. storytelling:
“I sat there realizing I should, like you do, share about myself in this format. Which I really love.” (04:09 - Ted Danson)
On stage anxiety:
“It’s like sticking your finger in a light socket and your whole body goes.” (05:46 - Ted Danson)
On matching character with panic:
“The panic that was in my body made me look kind of brilliant.” (08:29 - Ted Danson)
On the end of Cheers and press tours:
“Everyone else was just eyes spinning, shit-faced, shit-faced. On everything known to man.” (16:14 - Ted Danson)
On the cast bond:
“No one will understand what it was like to be part of that white hot thing except for those other people.” (17:27 - Jesse Tyler Ferguson)
On humility and curiosity:
“Whenever I spout enlightenment, I always walk back to my car and step right into some karmic dog shit.” (31:07 - Ted Danson)
“Side Dish: More with Ted Danson” peels back the curtain on the vulnerable, often hilarious realities of life in the spotlight—whether it’s panic attacks on stage, the bittersweet close of a television era, or the deep joys and complexities of working with loved ones. Jesse and Ted’s genuine chemistry creates a warm, open space for listeners to hear what it means to be both an artist and a human being, wrestling with fear, gratitude, and ever-evolving family dynamics.
For anyone needing a blend of Hollywood storytelling and real-world wisdom, this episode is a menu of heartfelt admissions, laughter, and a generous dose of humility.