Drunk Stand-Up & Grammy Glitz with Devon Walker

Summary

Podcast Summary: Disgraceful with Grace O'Malley

Episode: Drunk Stand-Up & Grammy Glitz with Devon Walker

Date: February 12, 2026
Host: Grace O'Malley (aka Unwell)
Guest: Devon Walker (SNL writer, comedian, host of "My Favorite Lyrics" podcast)
Supporting Cast: Nora O’Malley (Grace’s sister and unofficial HR)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Disgraceful brings Brooklyn’s comedic energy to the forefront as Grace O’Malley auditions Devon Walker—SNL writer, stand-up comic, and Grammys pre-show host—for the coveted co-host chair. The conversation winds through drunk stand-up sets, sibling dynamics, the changing face of comedy, pop culture moments, generational divides, and deep dives into both Devon and Grace’s unconventional paths. Grace’s sister Nora pops in to keep things grounded and personal, while mutual riffing powers insightful and authentically hilarious takes on modern comedy, music, and the “bit quota” challenge.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. “Are You a Fun Drunk?” and Stand-Up Beginnings

Timestamps: 01:01–03:09; 07:45–09:22; 15:41–18:54

• Grace: Admits to a disastrous early history with drinking:

  “I used to black out and I’d have to, like, get carried out and I’ve always been a big girl, so that’s been like. That’s a two man. So that’s the only two men I’ve ever gotten.” (01:03)

• Devon: Shares about early stand-up missteps, writing a new set every time and getting drunk before performing. He jokes about not getting better because “I didn’t know any better!” (08:06)
• Discussion on the different approaches of comics—some like Sinbad and Chappelle famously don’t write down material, just riff on stage.
• The anxiety of performing and “trying” is reinterpreted as admirable, not “cringe.” Emphasis on effort over apathy.

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2. Family Backgrounds and Generational Gaps

Timestamps: 03:10–11:17

• Devon: Grew up in a huge blended family; oldest sister is 55, his youngest sister is 25. Dad started early:

  “That’s all Papa baby. That’s all my dad putting numbers on the board for several decades.” (04:57)

• Grace & Nora: Discuss growing up as siblings with a wide age gap, noting how those differences shape their sibling relationships and attitudes (Gen Z vs. Millennial).
• Devon is adamant about not letting Gen Z "bully" him out of his Millennial status:

  “I’m not going to let these fucking children bully me and they’re not liking the shit that I like.” (11:11)

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3. Comedy Career Paths & Validation (SNL, Podcasting, Badges)

Timestamps: 06:00–07:41; 07:45–09:22; 24:00–25:55; 28:04–29:10

• Devon: Explains how working at SNL served as a career benchmark his family understood:

  “If there’s one thing that older people can wrap their head around, it’s that show.” (06:00)

• Both lament that in stand-up, you rarely feel successful, and hitting obvious milestones is the only tangible “badge” of progress.
• Grace jokes about her own nontraditional path—abandoning college, moving to NYC on a whim during Covid, and starting comedy via podcasting.

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4. Creative Risk, Effort, and the “Try” Debate

Timestamps: 11:13–13:07

• Both reject the current trend that effort is cringe.

  “I think it’s so much cooler to try. I think it’s… I like people who swing and miss.” (11:34 – Nora)

• Devon shares admiration for creatives at film festivals—even when projects suck, the willingness to try gets respect.

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5. Substance Use and Comics: Weed, Drinking, and College Stories

Timestamps: 15:41–19:21

• Devon and Grace bond over not getting along with weed, for reasons of anxiety and overthinking.

  “Weed just like. It just. It just puts me in my own head in a way that like. Yeah, it just.” (16:16 – Devon)

• Devon recounts a memorable incident in college involving homemade dabbing contraptions and extreme coughing fits:

  “I coughed for 40 minutes. Yeah, 40 minutes. And then I was dizzy, and then I had to go home. Stop it. What’s. We don’t need to do that.” (18:13 – Devon)

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6. Making It in the Content Game (Podcasting, Socials, and Indie Hustle)

Timestamps: 21:32–24:09

• Devon hosts his own indie podcast (“My Favorite Lyrics”), emphasizing self-funding, breaking even, and the pressure to be a modern comedian and content creator:

  “I started it because I was like, I got to get in the content game, but I just didn’t want to be like… posting stand up, like, all the time.” (22:09 – Devon)

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7. Grammys Coverage and Wild Changes in Pop Culture

Timestamps: 24:00–28:23; 30:30–34:03

• Devon shares his upcoming gig as pre/post Grammys host for E!, preparing by boning up on Best New Artist contenders and TikTok stars.
• Both note how the music landscape is now so fragmented by TikTok algorithms that even “music people” are surprised by gigantic stars they’ve never heard of.
• Memorable quote:

  “Now it’s all TikTok. And also, everybody has such a distinctly different algorithm…now it’s like, I follow music and I keep up with it…and every year I’m like, oh, so this person has 20 million followers and like, the biggest song in America. How is this never—I've just never crossed my…?” (25:36 – Devon)

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8. Industry Tales: SNL, Interviews, and the Big Questions

Timestamps: 29:10–30:28

• Devon on being constantly asked the same SNL “origin story” questions by strangers:

  “I’ve told the story of like how I got on the show probably 10,000 times.” (30:05 – Devon)

• Grace and Devon riff on lazy interview questions vs. actually meaningful connection and notes on comedy heroes (Barbara Walters shoutout).

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9. Lightning Round: Grammys "What Would You Say?" Encounter Game

Timestamps: 31:03–34:47

• Grace quizzes Devon on hypothetical encounters with musicians at the Grammys, e.g.:

  Grace: “Justin Bieber, I’ve never [met]…what could you say to the Biebs that the Biebers never heard?”
  Devon: “I do hope that for the Biebs…I think we were so mean to him…He’s 15 years old and he has $10 million.” (31:42–32:04)

• Discussions about empathy for former child stars, Taylor Swift’s effect as a “kingmaker,” and notes on K-pop, indie acts, and up-and-coming artists.

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10. Musical Reference Game and Lyrics Challenge

Timestamps: 66:20–73:43

• To close, Grace and Devon take turns reciting song lyrics off-key for the other to guess, resulting in a hilarious, meandering pop/jay-Z/Chancellor/Outkast medley.
• The bit showcases Devon’s deep pop culture and music knowledge, even conflating two different similar DJ Khaled/Justin Bieber collaborations:

  “So they both have Justin Bieber on the hook and DJ Khaled songs and the same featured artist. So…it’s really hard not to conflate them…” (71:19 – Devon)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• On Generational Divides:

  “We got to stop trying to pretend like we want to be where they’re at. You know what I’m saying? I don’t want to be Gen Z. I was born in 1991, and I like that about myself.” (11:10 – Devon)

• On Comedy Badges:

  “It’s like a badge…careers, like, it’s like Boy Scouts…that’s like one of the biggest, shiniest badges.” (07:26 – Devon)

• On Taking Risks:

  “I like people who swing and miss…even if I don’t like the art, I really respect people who go after something…” (11:56 – Devon)

• On Early Comedy Days:

  “I was doing Stand up here and there in the city, just doing it the wrong way. Writing new sets every time and getting drunk when I did it. I was like, why am I not getting better?” (08:05 – Grace)

• On Podcasts and SNL:

  “I feel really grateful that I worked at SNL…if there’s one thing that older people can wrap their head around, it’s that show.” (06:00 – Devon)

• On the Future:

  “I feel a lot of like…I’m just…I don’t know, I feel like, like you said, I feel like shit just like works itself out and so 100%.” (28:04 – Devon)

• On Bobby Bones:

  “He was not very cool to us. And honestly, that experience really made me be like, yeah, I don’t think I want to do broadcasting.” (47:18 – Devon)

• On Sibling Relationships:

  “Oh, that’s my sister. We always have to preface. …Cause then we’ll, like, start fighting, and it’s like, ‘oh, Grace. You, like. You’re kind of mean to, like, the people you work with.’ Like, no, it’s my sister.” (34:41 – Grace)

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Fun Fact & Deep Cut References Round

Timestamps: 42:28–56:02

• Devon describes working at Texas grocery chain HEB, niche bar “A Sing Den” in Austin, a failed internship with radio host Bobby Bones, and why he lost his southern accent.
• They riff about “Market Basket” in Boston, Wawa in Philly, and the uniqueness of regional U.S. grocery stores and accents.
• Grace proves research chops with deep personal trivia for “bit quota,” drawing out stories that surprise even Devon.

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Closing & Shoutouts

Timestamps: 74:09–75:57

• Devon shouts out his podcast producer, Carmen Kerrigan:

  “She really does a lot of work and it would not exist without her. Carmen, if you ever hear this, I appreciate you.” (74:09)

• Plugs My Favorite Lyrics: “Kind of like rap genius, but like with jokes…a really fun time.”

• “Cooler than Freddie Jackson sipping a milkshake in a snowstorm,” he terms Grace’s studio the “coldest podcast I’ve ever done, but super cool.”

• Grace and Devon:

  “Comedy wise, me—Grace—and I legitimately met once. We do not know each other at all. And look at this rapport. Everybody can’t do this.” (75:45 – Devon)

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Final Segment: “Sing the Lyric" Game

Timestamps: 66:20–73:43

Hilarity ensures as Grace and Devon challenge each other to guess hip-hop, pop, and country lyrics performed in deliberately off-key, unrecognizable melody (e.g., Jay Z, Chance the Rapper, Outkast, George Strait).

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Takeaways

• Devon Walker emerges as a thoughtful, humble, sharp comic navigating fame’s weirdness, generational snobbery, and comedy’s shifting landscape, all with deep family roots and earnest appreciation for risk and realness.
• Grace O’Malley proves herself a host able to draw out backstory, vulnerability, and wild anecdotes from guests—while keeping things loose, personal, and unfiltered.
• Their musical interplay, mutual admiration for effort, and openness about creative uncertainty make this episode a warm, resonant, and deeply funny listen for comedy nerds and newcomers alike.

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Essential Timestamps

• [01:03] – “Are you a fun drunk?” and pitfalls of early stand-up
• [06:00] – SNL as a “career badge” and family’s understanding
• [08:05] – Drunk stand-up and “doing it the wrong way”
• [11:11] – On generational divides and embracing Millennial status
• [15:41] – Substance use and why weed doesn’t work for either
• [22:09] – Indie podcast grind and not wanting to post endless stand-up clips
• [24:00] – Grammys pre-show gig, TikTok pop culture, and music algorithms
• [29:10] – On SNL question fatigue and meaningful interviews
• [31:03] – “What Would You Say” Grammy artist encounter game
• [66:20] – Lyric Recitation Game: Guess the song segment
• [74:09] – Devon’s shoutout, podcast plug, and studio “temperature” review

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For more Devon Walker:

• Listen to his podcast “My Favorite Lyrics”
• Follow him for stand-up, upcoming projects, and his Grammy red carpet coverage
• Support indie comedy and, most importantly: “Try. Swing and miss. It’s cooler than you think.”

Transcript

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[Nora]

Are you a fun drunk?

[Grace]

I used to not be. I used to black out and I'd have to, like, get carried out and I've always been a big girl, so that's been like. That's a two man. So that's the only two men I've ever gotten.

[Nora]

Ayo.

[Grace]

And so.

[Nora]

Is your dad from the South?

[Grace]

Nobody wishes he was.

[Nora]

Oh, no.

[Grace]

Yeah, it's terrible. I got one of those dads.

[Nora]

That's not good.

[Grace]

Yeah, I got a bootlicking dad.

[Nora]

Especially because, like, people from the. I feel like people from the east coast usually look down on the south so much.

[Grace]

Oh, nerd know. We're. We're. We're what I'm calling now. Red collar.

[Nora]

Okay. Red color. That's very fun. I haven't heard that before.

[Grace]

Did you.

[Nora]

Is that. Is that your.

[Grace]

Did you did the last pod.

[Nora]

I see. I do want to just note to people I'm not wearing my coat and gloves just because I'm not. I know. I feel like now that I have this hair, I feel like I'm going to have to explain.

[Grace]

No, you don't.

[Nora]

No. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm going to have to be like, hey, I don't. You. Because it's like, I don't. Where I'm from, if I like walk around with this people like this guy.

[Grace]

You gotta get that out of your head, though. Yeah, I probably should because this is very normal here.

[Nora]

That's true. Nobody looks twice.

[Grace]

But all you can do is Think about it. I get that.

[Nora]

Think about where you're. Yeah. Where I'm from.

[Grace]

Like. Yeah. And, like, think about, like, this is a new thing for me. So I feel like I have to address it.

[Nora]

I feel like I gotta talk about it. And I feel like. And now I'm wearing a coat and gloves too.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

They're like, oh, he's sweet. He's switching. Oh, now this. Walking around wearing gloves all the time. Oh, he changed his hair. Now he Mr. Glove. All of a sudden, O.J. s Simpson looking ass, putting gloves on all the time now that he switched his hair up. You not Frank Ocean Dog. That's the thing that I'm saying to myself that people are saying about me in their mind. And they're not gonna say it out loud, but they just gonna look at me at the glove with the gloves, and they're gonna be like, you know.

[Grace]

I was thinking the same thing.

[Nora]

Yeah, exactly. This is how it starts. So I guess as I get more comfortable with it, I'll just. This is the first yes. Yeah, I came. I basically did. I did that at like 10am had lunch and then came here.

[Grace]

Okay. All right. We're on a.

[Nora]

Been my day so far.

[Grace]

Okay. Yeah, I am so far. I tried to find space heaters, and that's about it.

[Nora]

It's chilly in here.

[Grace]

It is chilly.

[Nora]

It's chilly.

[Grace]

But you're going to LA tomorrow and so that's going to be warm.

[Nora]

Yeah, it's like. It is.

[Grace]

Let's talk about the weather.

[Nora]

Al.

[Grace]

Oh, we can't use clips. I want to use a clip of Al Roker. You know, he's been on the air for 30 years that I just saw that.

[Nora]

He feels like one of those guys who's just never not been around. Like, I don't remember a time before Al Roker. You know what I'm saying? You know, some people are just like.

[Grace]

How old are you?

[Nora]

Forever. I'm 34.

[Grace]

Yeah, like when. When you were able. When you were cognitive, he was on air.

[Nora]

He's always. He's never not been around.

[Grace]

Who's. Who's more people who have, like a legacy like that Bob Barker.

[Nora]

He's passed now. Rest in peace, Big Bob.

[Grace]

From.

[Nora]

From the prices. Right.

[Grace]

Oh, okay. I thought you meant from Good Luck Charlie. Is that. Oh, Bob Duncan. Sorry, What's Bob Duncan? Good Luck Charlie was a show when my sister's really younger. That was the new Disney Channel.

[Nora]

Oh, I see.

[Grace]

Yeah. And he was the dad.

[Nora]

Do you have a big age gap?

[Grace]

Giant.

[Nora]

Okay. My. I got I'm in an age gap family as well.

[Grace]

Okay. How many siblings?

[Nora]

There's four of us. Total.

[Grace]

Same.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Boys, girls? Two boys, two girls, two boys, two girls. That's perfect. And what's the age? What are the ages?

[Nora]

My little sister. I'm 34. My little sister's 25. My big brother's 40. My big brother's 47.

[Grace]

Oh, that's your dad.

[Nora]

Yeah. And you know what? Yes. And you know. Yes, it is. My. And my oldest sister is like, see, my brother's 40. My oldest sister's got to be, like, 53, 54.

[Grace]

Oh, and that's your great aunt.

[Nora]

It's all. That's all Papa baby. That's all my dad putting numbers on the board for several decades.

[Grace]

Wild.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

So did you guys all grow up together or kind of like.

[Nora]

My oldest. I never grew up with my oldest sister. My dad had a kid in high school, so she was born in the 70s. My dad was in high school, actually. I can tell you exactly this way. Yeah. So she's like, 50. She just turned 55.

[Grace]

I just.

[Nora]

I just did the math.

[Grace]

Oh, damn.

[Nora]

That's crazy.

[Grace]

How's your dad? How old you dad?

[Nora]

What? I was 70. What was last year? Might have. 72.

[Grace]

Oh, okay.

[Nora]

Yeah. So he's been. He's been at it for a minute.

[Grace]

Did you know what you do? Does he get it? Yeah, I'm calling him old. I'm just saying, like, there's like, a disconnect when it. When it's, like, from traditional to digital and, like, all that jazz. Like, it's like.

[Nora]

I don't think he quite. I mean, it's like such a new. I mean, it's like I feel like I'm still figuring out this landscape.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

You know what I'm saying? It's like, I've been doing Stan. I've been doing comedy for a decade, and I feel like even in that decade, this shit has switched. So crazy.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

It's like I could only imagine if I was 70.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Trying to wrap my head around all.

[Grace]

Trying to stay connected with your kids. He generally.

[Nora]

He knows what I'm doing. And I feel really grateful that I worked at snl, which is like, the place. Like, you know, if there's one thing that, like, older people can wrap their head around, it's that show.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

So it feels so cool to like, be able to be like. Yeah. Like, you know, the thing.

[Grace]

You know, the thing that was around when you were a kid.

[Nora]

Literally, this is.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Nora]

Because also, like, I feel like when you do. When you do comedy, I feel like early on, people are like, oh, you should. Like, you should. You should send in a resume to snl. I was watching Trevor Noah on tv. You should see if you could go over there and, like, maybe start working with him for a little bit. And you're like, oh, thanks, Auntie. I hadn't. That I didn't cross my mind that maybe I should be more successful. But I guess now that you've brought it up at Thanksgiving in front of everybody at the table, I guess, then I guess I'll consider it in my mind.

[Grace]

Yeah, I guess I'll make that a goal.

[Nora]

I guess I'll do better than I'm doing right now, substantially. Okay, thanks for that. And so, like. Yeah, because, like, I feel like SNL is like that thing, and it feels so cool to be like, yeah, no, I already worked there. Yeah, I already worked there. Like, the place that y' all know about. I did it.

[Grace]

Yeah, that's, like, true. And also, like, just kind of for you to, like. I've noticed stand up is a career where you don't know if you're doing well.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

And you always feel like you should be doing better.

[Nora]

Of course.

[Grace]

So when you hit a milestone, like snl, like, you. You've. I don't know, like, it's like a trophy totally in your career.

[Nora]

You know, it's like a. It's like a badge. You know, careers, like, it's like Boy Scouts. You're like, oh, I got.

[Grace]

Collecting them all.

[Nora]

You know, it's like, that's like one of the biggest, shiniest badges.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

So, like. Yeah. If nothing else, it was that. That part was. Yeah, that part has been very nice. Wait, how did you come up. What's your.

[Grace]

I.

[Nora]

Because weird.

[Grace]

I had a non traditional kind of way. I had a podcast with my friend from growing up.

[Nora]

Okay.

[Grace]

We had a falling out. I know. It's the podcast curse.

[Nora]

Oh, shit.

[Grace]

And then. But I also was, like, doing Stand up here and there in the city, just doing it the wrong way. Writing new sets every time and getting drunk when I did it.

[Nora]

That's a way to do it.

[Grace]

I was like, why am I not getting better.

[Nora]

Every time you got a new 10 minutes. You're not honing it.

[Grace]

I don't know how people just, like, add to their jokes and make them better. I don't know how to.

[Nora]

I respect that approach, though.

[Grace]

Yeah. I just didn't know any better.

[Nora]

You know, I heard Sinbad never wrote jokes.

[Grace]

I also heard Louis didn't Either you just said that recently.

[Nora]

Maybe. I mean, maybe these. I mean, some of these guys are like, the legendary comedians, for better or worse.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

But, like, so, you know, some people I do think are, like, specially talented like that. And once you put your, like, 10,000 hours in, I'd imagine it just becomes, like. It just flows out of you and you don't have to think about it.

[Grace]

Yeah. It's just crazy to never jot it down.

[Nora]

That does feel crazy. Like, I heard Sinbad just be like, yeah, I just go on stage for an hour and just, like, talk for a while, and it's. And it's just funny.

[Grace]

And then Chappelle kind of does that.

[Nora]

He. Exactly. But he's also been doing stand up for, like, 30 years, 40 years or whatever. So it's like, I feel like once you do it for that long, it's kind of just, like, talk. I've met old comedians where when I'm talking to them, I'm like, oh, you just kind of talk, like, stand up.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

You know what I'm saying?

[Grace]

Yeah, they're just kind of, like, built like that.

[Nora]

Yeah. It's just like, that's Your brain just goes directly into, like, what's the joke of this?

[Grace]

Yeah. Which is, like, a blessing and a curse.

[Nora]

Not fun people to talk to. Every time I've ever done an hour of stand up, I've been like, oh, well, I don't need to do that again for, like, a week. I can't imagine wanting to be up there for more than one hour. I do an hour and I'm like, cool, Great.

[Grace]

Yeah. Wait, so are you. I pivoted where I shouldn't have. Your family. We just. We went right past your family. I'm so sorry about. The age gaps. My Adderall's kicking in. That's why. I know with the age gaps. Are you close with your siblings?

[Nora]

Oh, yeah. We were talking about this. You're right. Yeah. So, like, yeah, my older sister, like, she grew up with her mom, so, like, we didn't really grow up together. Also, she's 20 years older than me, so, like, it's a great aunt. I mean, truly, like, we, like, just were so far apart that, like, we didn't grow up at all together. My big brother is 12 years older than me. He was graduating high school the same year that I finished kindergarten.

[Grace]

Crazy.

[Nora]

So, like, literally, like, I was at the very beginning, he was at the very end. So I have, like, some memories of, like, my brother being in the house, but I was really little.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

And then my little sisters adopted. And we adopted her when I was. I was. I must. I was nine going on ten.

[Grace]

Okay. Yeah. And then. So then your sister is the Gen Z, I guess.

[Nora]

Yeah. She would have to, because she's 25 now.

[Grace]

So she's like, yeah, that's definitely Gen Z. Because I'm definitely Gen Z, too. Definitely.

[Nora]

Here's what I'll say. Can I. Can I speak on this? Because I actually have some real. It's like, I think if. If you're. We got to stop trying to pretend like we want to be where they're at. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to be Gen Z. I was born in 1991, and I like that about myself.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

I'm not going to let these fucking children bully me and they're not liking the shit that I like.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Cut it out.

[Grace]

I. I just saw a thing. It used to be cool to try.

[Nora]

You feel me?

[Grace]

And. And now it's. I hate the word, but it's. It's cringe.

[Nora]

Oh, sure. It's cringe to try.

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[Nora]

I don't. I don't know. I don't embrace that. No, I don't embrace that. I don't think. I think it's so much cooler to try. I think it's.

[Grace]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I thought you were like, I don't really. I like what you're saying at all. And I was like, that's fair.

[Nora]

I don't know. I just, like. I don't know. I try really hard. I try really hard. I worked. I've worked a lot to, like, get to where I'm at, and I like, like that about myself. But it's easy. It's so much easier to, like, sit back and, like, make fun of shit and say, like, oh, that's. That's whack, da, da, da. But, like, I like the trial. I like people who swing and miss.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

I respect the attempts, even. I went to my homie, did a film at a film festival, and I, like, went and like, I'm not gonna hold you. No, his movie. His movie's good. I'm also in it. But like.

[Grace]

And it's also your friend out there, like, whoa, you're saying that right now.

[Nora]

But I will say I went to the film festival and I watched a bunch of. You know, I watched a bunch of, like, movies back to back, and, like, some of them fucking sucked. I would say a good amount of them sucked.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

But I really. I I committed every single one of those people because I was like, yo, y' all made this shit on an indie budget and y' all had to write the script and you had to get the cameras and you had to do the lighting and like, and then you had to edit it. Like, that is like, even if I don't like the art, I really respect people who like, go after something because also we do this.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

And it's like through doing comedy, it's like, how many people have you met in your life who have been like, oh, man, like, it's really cool that you're doing that. Like, I always wanted to do comedy. Like, people always thought I was funnier. Like, I always wanted to, like, make movies. I always wanted to, like, write. But. But they, like, get discouraged and they don't try and they go do some normal shit. And I mean, I feel like that's. I feel like it's kind of. Most people. So many people have like a creative ambition that they, like, never go after. And yeah, all this to say, I, like, fuck people who try 100%.

[Grace]

And like, but like, the, the come up of it all is. Is seen as to. To. To too much work or too scary. Embarrassing. Scary, scary. Too much of the idea of failure. So people just are like, I'm not.

[Nora]

Going to do it.

[Grace]

I can't.

[Nora]

I can't do an email job. Which, like, no disrespect to that, but I'm also like, I don't know, it's. I mean, I don't know what your path was, but I feel like I was like, oh, I'm just going to move to New York because, like, worst case scenario, I could always move back.

[Grace]

Yeah, that's what I did. I, like, my friend was moving here and she's like, I'm moving to New York. Do you want to come? And I didn't even. It was Covid and I was supposed to go back to senior year and I was like, no, yeah, yeah, fuck it, why not? And then I just never went back to school. And it's just like, things just, you know, things have a weird way of working out.

[Nora]

They kind of do.

[Grace]

It's crazy. It's funny you say like your friends who say to you, like, oh, I wish I could do that. Like, I had this pact with this kid in high school and he was also very funny. And I remember when we were at like a party one time, he was like, dude, one day one of us is gonna get snl. And that has not happened. Yeah, of course. So Congratulations. But I did see him recently and he was like, it's not snl, but you win. I was like, oh, dude, thank you, man. I didn't think you remember that because I like, I remember. Weird shit.

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[Nora]

Are you a fun drunk?

[Grace]

I used to not be. I used to black out and I'd have to like, get carried out and I've always been a big girl, so that's been like, that's a two man. So that's the only two men of ever gone. And. And so. But now I know what I can and can't drink. So I. I'm a blast.

[Nora]

Okay.

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Yeah.

[Grace]

I used to not know the way.

[Nora]

That I'm doing it. Incredible.

[Grace]

Are you a drinker, a smoker, or both? But that's never really the case.

[Nora]

I'm a. I'm a drinker.

[Grace]

Drinker.

[Nora]

I don't. We. We didn't. Me just never really get along. I got too many anxieties.

[Grace]

Yeah, me too.

[Nora]

I can't weed just like. It just. It just puts me in my own head in a way that like. Yeah, it just.

[Grace]

It's never fun for me.

[Nora]

Same. I wish it could be. I wish I could be a person who liked to like, get high and like, be chill all the time. But I got too much wheels. Are too many wheels spinning up here.

[Grace]

I don't like it like, oh my God. When I find someone who's got the same thing going on, that's like so huge for me because you sound like such a pussy when you say you don't smoke. Like, for me, personally, I hate admitting it.

[Nora]

Yeah. Oh, really?

[Grace]

Like, every time someone's like, do you smoke? I'm like, no. Uppers only, though. I'm still fun, though.

[Nora]

In college, I used to be. In college, I used to be like, no. Yeah, I smoke just, like, just. Just not. I just got to smoke alone at my house.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Nora]

I just. I'll just. I'll smoke in the car after the party over.

[Grace]

Like, I'm still doing it. Just. I can't actually do it with you. Yeah.

[Nora]

I mean, truly.

[Grace]

It's a you thing, actually.

[Nora]

I like. I like. You're.

[Grace]

You're like. You sketch me out.

[Nora]

But kind of, though. But kind of like, I was smoke. I used to. I smoked a lot of weed in college, and I feel like I had a bunch of different instances where I, like, smoked a bunch of weed, and then I would just get in my head and be like, this motherfucker's weird. Yeah, this nigga, he being really weird.

[Grace]

Are you trying to freak me out?

[Nora]

Yeah. I don't like this. I don't like this documentary you're putting on, this unsanctioned documentary about the White House that you're trying to. I don't like none of this. And I feel like everybody can tell that I don't like this stuff. And it's like. Anna ends, my chest hurts because, like, they got one of those weird fucking weed contraptions. You know the type of shit they whip out in college that you don't never see. Like, now as an adult. I remember one time this. I used to. I went to college with this African kid named dez. And he. I remember one time he pulled out some paddles. He pulled out some paddles, and he heated them up on the stove. And then he put some weed and like, some. Like some oil, and then he, like, put it underneath the thing, and he was like, all right. He was like, smoke this. And then I fucking smoked it. And I coughed for 40 minutes. Yeah, 40 minutes. And then I was dizzy, and then I had to go home. Stop it. What's. We don't need to do that.

[Grace]

What?

[Nora]

Yeah, exactly. That's what I was saying.

[Grace]

It was like a science major.

[Nora]

Yeah, exactly. I've never seen that shit before or since. I'm sure the real weed people know what I'm talking about. This also before vapes, like, were really popping like that.

[Grace]

It was like. Dabs.

[Nora]

Yeah, it was like a dab.

[Grace]

And I remember, like, not in, like, a rag.

[Nora]

No, it was like he put it in between these paddles. And he heated up the paddles.

[Grace]

Like.

[Nora]

Like, there are these clear. Yeah, there were these two, like, little glass. Like, there were two, like, little glass.

[Grace]

Like, I'm picturing tennis. And then the ones that save your life.

[Nora]

No, it's like they were, like, two little, like, glass tongs. And he, like, basically put the oil or whatever in between these tongs, and. And then I smoked up out of that. And then I coughed for a really long time, and then I had to drive home dizzy in a Honda Civic.

[Grace]

I'm so scared for you.

[Nora]

That sounds really not nice. And I feel like I had a bunch of those types of moments in college where I had to act like this is also, like, you know, I'm around, like, all these dudes, so I got to act like I'm like. Like this shit not affecting me.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

I mean, I'm frightened. I'm legitimately afraid. And I got. Yeah, no, no, dog. I'm good. It's just. I got. I got pussy at the house, so. Charlie, I'm about to go. I'm about to go.

[Grace]

Fuck.

[Nora]

No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm about to go get in a blanket and watch a. Watch Bob's burgers. Let's go watch Bob Burgers and curl up in a blanket and be a little afraid.

[Grace]

I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna listen to ocean sounds and I'm gonna breathe in. Yeah, breathe out.

[Nora]

Totally.

[Grace]

And I'm gonna try to become what the app is.

[Nora]

Calm, basically.

[Grace]

Ad for calm. I wish.

[Nora]

That'd be tight. That'd be so sick of money.

[Grace]

That'd be so sick. See, I can easily put ads in if you're ever watching and you work for a company that has ads. I heard we're not getting a lot of ads, so. Or ash. Unwell. Delicious.

[Nora]

Are you look. Are you looking? Are you on the. Are you, like, looking for somebody right now?

[Grace]

No. It's been so forever. It's been my whole life that I just. I don't. I'm wicked weird about it, so it's like, it's gonna have to come to me because I. I was trying for a while, and then I got it out of my head, and now it's too far out of my head where I'm like, what's wrong with me? You know?

[Nora]

Sure, sure, sure, sure. How old are you?

[Grace]

27.

[Nora]

Oh, my God.

[Grace]

That's a disturbing age to never have love.

[Nora]

No, I don't think you're quite there yet. I think you're Inching up on it. But I don't think.

[Grace]

Especially for a lady, I don't think you're the.

[Nora]

I don't think you're there yet. I think you gotta be like, I think you got like four more years before it gets weird.

[Grace]

Four more years.

[Nora]

Yes, exactly.

[Grace]

The next election I'm gonna be. I went celibate for this. For this president.

[Nora]

Sure. And you know what? Fair.

[Grace]

Take that for however. What you will.

[Nora]

Yeah. Whichever direction you want to go in with that. That's where it is.

[Grace]

So ice.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

No, I can't. I was just. I am so uneducated. I said ICE last time, Right?

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Let's do it again. Ice.

[Nora]

I will say at one point, like, somebody had to call me and be. Or like several people DM me. And they were like, yo, they're running ICE ads during your podcast.

[Grace]

Oh, my God.

[Nora]

Like, can you. They were like. They were like, yeah, it probably has nothing to do with you, but just like, just so you know, that was.

[Grace]

That was Spotify, right? Yeah, yeah. What's happening to a lot of people.

[Nora]

We'd, like, reach out to them and, like, you can turn it off.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

So, like, we turn it.

[Grace]

It's.

[Nora]

They're not doing it no more.

[Grace]

Oh, that's so crazy. So what's your podcast? Do you. Are you under, like a studio?

[Nora]

No, no, we're all doing an indie, so we're like. We're like. We're self funded.

[Grace]

That's all you.

[Nora]

That's all me.

[Grace]

A lot of money up front, but it's worth it in the long run.

[Nora]

Exactly, is what I heard. It's cool. We're basically. We're basically breaking even at this point. So it's like. Yeah, it's. It's. It's basically paying for itself now.

[Grace]

And so that's huge.

[Nora]

But we are not making money. I will say.

[Grace]

No, it takes. It takes a second.

[Nora]

Yeah, but it's where we're.

[Grace]

You're brand new.

[Nora]

It's also. Yeah, it's less than a year.

[Grace]

Less than a year. Yeah.

[Nora]

So it's like, when did you start it? Like, April.

[Grace]

April. Okay.

[Nora]

So it's. Yeah, we're like a few months out of being doing it for a year. But I will say, like, it's been positive. Like, I started it because I was like, I got to get in the content game, but I just didn't want to be like, I didn't want to be posting stand up, like, all the time.

[Grace]

Yeah. So you need, like, this other medium.

[Nora]

I was like, I need something Else that I can just, like, pump out.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

That feels like. Because I was like. Because I'm sensitive and it's, like, doing it right. Yeah, I know. I legitimately really do like doing it, but it did started from a place of, like, I just need something to, like, put. I need content, and I don't want to.

[Grace]

You don't want to stand up. Cooking videos, you know what I mean?

[Nora]

And God bless. I've seen people.

[Grace]

No, they do great.

[Nora]

Whatever way you got to find.

[Grace]

Or. I. I don't know. I could cook sometimes.

[Nora]

Yeah. Like, get ready with me or like, we all got to find. So this is.

[Grace]

You don't dye your hair so many times.

[Nora]

This is. This is a hellscape. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I don't want to be doing this shit. But not. But this is the world we live in. Yeah, but I was like. And I was like. I legitimately just. I love music and I love music lyrics. I'm always like, there's. There's always like, some kind of lyric that I'm like, that I got stuck in my head.

[Grace]

What's right now.

[Nora]

Oh, you know what? You know what it is? It's not a funny one.

[Grace]

It's okay. It's honest. You know, comedies can be honest sometimes.

[Nora]

It's hard.

[Grace]

Honest. Honest with their feelings, not honest with that. This is how I feel. So I feel about myself.

[Nora]

Your next special, this is how I feel.

[Grace]

This how I feel now. My next special is called Nobody's Ex.

[Nora]

Yeah. Thank you. That's kind of good, actually.

[Grace]

Thanks. I actually. I thought of it the other day.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Coming soon. Hulu. Netflix. Yeah.

[Nora]

Come on. Reach out.

[Grace]

I'm so not ready.

[Nora]

You got it. But, yeah, that's. That's really where it came from. And then I, like, started doing it, and it's been a blast. And, like, I'm actually. I'm about to go, like, kind of through that. And, like, I don't know, like, one thing led to another. Like, I'm. I'm about to. I'm doing the pre and post show for the Grammys this week.

[Grace]

Oh, no.

[Nora]

Yeah, I'm going. That's why I'm going to la.

[Grace]

Oh, dude. I was trying to ask a long time ago, but I, I, I, I, I. My train of thought is so bad. That's so sick.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Wait.

[Nora]

Okay, so partially came because, like, there's all this, like, there's all the. There's all these hours in me talking about music.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

So there's like, all this, like, footage that I somewhat know what I'm talking. I'm at least a real music fan. Even though I'm not, like, the most.

[Grace]

I can't face that. You can't have a podcast and be like, I like. I like jazz. It's like you just start making up genres. Sometimes I listen to jazz and bluegrass, Country, I guess. I'm from Texas, you know, there's like.

[Nora]

A little country in there.

[Grace]

Imagine you just, like, start your whole podcast is just listing genres.

[Nora]

Yeah. So, like, long run, reggae, R B noise, so Grammys.

[Grace]

I'm super pumped for you. That's awesome. Are you pumped for that or is it, like, more of, like, a work thing for you? I mean, we can cut this, too. I think that's just a personal question for me.

[Nora]

No, no, no, no. It's. We can.

[Grace]

What if I was like, fuck me.

[Nora]

Fuck the award show. No, no, it's sick. I mean, it is. I mean, it is. It's a work thing. So it's like I'm, like, trying to study and, like, whatever, you know, obviously, like, I don't listen to every single. I haven't listened to every single artist, you know, or, like, I wasn't a fan of every single artist who was nominated. So now I'm trying.

[Grace]

That's the going joke. Right now is like, last Grammy Award show, everyone was like, am I old? I don't know anybody.

[Nora]

Sure. Well, because now it's all TikTok.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

And then. And also, everybody has such a distinctly different algorithm that, like, there's so many. Like, now, like, now it's like, I follow music and I keep up with it. I would say more than the average person. And every year I'm like, oh, so this person has 20 million followers and, like, the biggest song in America. How is this never. I've just never crossed my debt.

[Grace]

Like, some of Spotify has an algorithm.

[Nora]

Yeah, of course.

[Grace]

Like, it's like, I. You have to, like, really search out for the top hits if you want them.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Because, like. Oh, you know what? I thought on Spotify, is your. Is your deal with Spotify or the Grammys or both or something else else?

[Nora]

It's with. It's with E. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing the E. Oh.

[Grace]

So the red carpet kind of thing.

[Nora]

Yeah, I'm not, like, on the carpet, but I'm gonna be, like, right next to the carpet doing, like. Like I said, I'm gonna.

[Grace]

The interview.

[Nora]

No, no, no. I'm doing, like, a panel show where we're basically gonna be like, all right, here are the stories of the Grammys this year. Here's like, what we expect to happen. Here's like, Kendrick Lamar had a big year. Like, the clips put this album out. And then afterwards, after the show, then I'm being like, yeah, so like, such and such won, like, what an amazing performance by like, da da da. It's honestly, I think they really just. I think I might be studying too much because I just had a meeting with the people where they were like, yeah, man, you just, Just be funny, man. Just be funny.

[Grace]

Yeah. We're going to tell you exactly what to say. This is broadcast television live.

[Nora]

I'm curious. We're about to go into. We're about to like, go in and have a, like a real pre show meeting where we like, really break down. We're about to do that's.

[Grace]

That's fun and serious all at the same time.

[Nora]

Exactly. So it's like, I do want to.

[Grace]

Like, room for, like, writing in jokes, you think?

[Nora]

I think so. I think there will be again, like, I'm, I'm the comedian, like, on the panel, so I do think on the panel with you. Do you know, it's like, it's like people who like, they, they like do hosting. They're like media people.

[Grace]

Are they e people?

[Nora]

I think somewhat. I think somewhat they're E people. I think there's some people who like, do red carpet stuff. There's one guy who's like popping in is like a fashion correspondent who's like, he like, does fashion stuff on TikTok or something like that. So I kind of am the comedic.

[Grace]

Part of it, which they always need legitimately. It's like the only thing that keeps these shows entertaining.

[Nora]

Exactly. So, like, I am kind of taking it that part serious where I'm like, I do need to make sure I know what I'm talking about and I'm like, being funny.

[Grace]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Nora]

But also I'm just like. I don't know, I've been feeling a lot of, like, gratitude lately. Honestly, I just feel like my life, like, I just get to do a lot of fly shit.

[Grace]

It's really fucking sick.

[Nora]

And I feel a lot of like, I'm just. I don't know, I feel like, like you said, like, I feel like shit just like works itself out and so 100%.

[Grace]

And not to bring up the, like the SNL, but like, I'm sure, like there was a time like that in between. It's like such a. It's like a confusing Time and you don't know what's going to be next. And it just all like, works out.

[Nora]

It does. It was like, I don't. I mean, I was so, I was so ready to leave the show by the time that I did, like, it was really like, it just was time. It was time for me to go do something else. And like, I knew that really, like, deeply. So I was like, there was no, like, when that happened, there was no, like, I didn't, I didn't feel sad really about it at all because I was so ready to figure out what the next thing was. But you were right. Especially because, like, I really knew that I wasn't coming back in like August.

[Grace]

It's, it's the, it's. It's having routine. It's like knowing that that's where you're going.

[Nora]

That part is hard.

[Grace]

Like, it's, it's any job really. Like, if you just have like this lull in between jobs. It's just, it's just like the uncertainties. Like a scary time part is really.

[Nora]

That's the, that was the, the routine part was actually the hardest part.

[Grace]

At least you're a stand up and not an improv provenance.

[Nora]

Like a, like a p. Like a pianist. You're an improvis.

[Grace]

Put that on your podcast.

[Nora]

Yeah, sure.

[Grace]

Today we're going to be talking about improvis.

[Nora]

Improvidence, Improvis, pianist.

[Grace]

But yeah, no, like you like always had stand up and. Do you get sick of people asking you about snl?

[Nora]

It depends on like, if the. It. I get tired of like the same. A lot of people ask a lot of the same. But like, when any. Anytime anybody has like a thoughtful question or especially like if they like watched something.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

That's like more fun to talk about.

[Grace]

But you can tell when they don't.

[Nora]

Of course. I mean, nine times out of ten, like, people, People don't really pay attention like that. Nine times out of like, people ask me the exact same all the time. Like, that gets annoying. I've told the story of like how I got on the show probably 10,000 times.

[Grace]

It's just like, it's, it's such a, like a layup. It's like of a question.

[Nora]

That's what I'm saying.

[Grace]

I mean. And when did you know you were funny?

[Nora]

Yeah, like that kind of.

[Grace]

Who's your favorite comic? Yeah, it's like Barbara Walters. It's like these are obvious questions. Barbara, she was so mean to people when she was interviewing. Back in the day.

[Nora]

You used to be allowed to do that. Yeah, I know how to be a real.

[Grace]

It was kind of fucking made for great entertainment.

[Nora]

Of course.

[Grace]

I'm just gonna look up. I just. I just came up with a game on the fly here. I didn't know you were going to the Grammys. So now I'm gonna pull up some people that are going to the Grammys, and I'm gonna have you tell me what you would say to them.

[Nora]

Okay.

[Grace]

If. When and if you meet them.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

That day. Okay. Because, you know, this is important. You have to practice this. You don't want to sound like a. A dumb. Dumb.

[Nora]

This isn't what I'll be doing, but.

[Grace]

I know, I know, but, like, you're gonna run into people, I guess, like, regardless.

[Nora]

That's true. I'll run into some people.

[Grace]

Okay. Bad Bunny.

[Nora]

Bad Bunny. What would I say if I met. I mean, I've met Bad Bunny before. He's, like, hosted.

[Grace]

Oh, yeah.

[Nora]

I've been around, so I kind of.

[Grace]

You've already kind of got that.

[Nora]

I hope you remember. I. I think he'd probably remember me.

[Grace]

I'll be like, hey, make a feeling if he doesn't. What the.

[Nora]

Porke.

[Grace]

No.

[Nora]

Yeah, yeah. I'd probably just say, what's up?

[Grace]

Okay. Lady Gaga.

[Nora]

Lady Gaga. I've also met.

[Grace]

Okay. This is gonna actually be a silly game.

[Nora]

It's making it tough.

[Grace]

Justin Bieber, I've never.

[Nora]

I've never come across the Biebs.

[Grace]

What could you say to the Biebs that the Biebers never heard?

[Nora]

That's totally fair. Can I tell. Can I tell you a story?

[Grace]

I would say, are you okay?

[Nora]

Yeah, I. And I do hope that for the bees, I think we were so mean to him. And in hindsight, it's like, we were. Everybody was so. They're like, can you believe he's acting like that? It's like, yeah, I can. He's 15 years old. He's 15 years old and he has $10 million. So, yeah, I can believe he's acting a little funny.

[Grace]

Yeah, dude.

[Nora]

And how could he not?

[Grace]

Screaming for help.

[Nora]

You feel like. Like, actually. And like now. Now I feel like. I feel. I feel a lot of, like, empathy for him because I can only. I got, like, a little bit famous when I was. When I was 30. You know what I'm saying?

[Grace]

I thought you were gonna say 13. I'm like, what a child star.

[Nora]

Yeah. Yeah, I was. I was on. I was Corey on. Corey in the House.

[Grace]

I almost made a joke. I'm just not just don't touch that.

[Nora]

But I. And that, like, even that, like, little bit of.

[Grace]

No, but he actually. He hangs out with Kyle Massey.

[Nora]

Justin Bieber.

[Grace]

Justin Bieber does. That's like, his squad.

[Nora]

I bet you they understand each other.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

You know what I'm saying?

[Grace]

It's actually really funny that was the example you gave, though, because, like, they go to Coachella.

[Nora]

Maybe that's why it was in my brain.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Shout out to Kyle Massey, wherever you at. I hope you're doing all right. I saw a video.

[Grace]

I'll never forget the name.

[Nora]

I saw a video of him rapping the Cory in the House theme song. And, like, in front of a live audience, and I was like, oh, this doesn't feel good to me.

[Grace]

I wonder if they. They paid for that. If they knew I would hope coming. I can see my breath. Who else we got here?

[Nora]

Six cents.

[Grace]

Oh, Somber. That little. That little long boy.

[Nora]

Hey, you know, I'd say congrats on everything. It seems like it's going awesome.

[Grace]

And where is your mother? Oh, I wonder if she'll be there. Lola Young.

[Nora]

Oh, I actually do. I. With Lola Young stuff. I. With some of Lola Young stuff. She had some, like, mental health stuff. I feel like.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Yeah. So, like, I guess similar. I guess I'd be like. Like, I really. I. With your music. I. Because they told me I really need to know about the best new artists.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Nora]

Like, that's.

[Grace]

Which is Olivia Dean.

[Nora]

Olivia Dean. I like her album. I listen to that.

[Grace]

Like, I think she's fantastic.

[Nora]

I really. I really liked it.

[Grace]

She's. She's on the. I don't know if you've ever noticed this, but the. Anyone who opens for Taylor Swift.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Just has, like, a run, and they have to. They have to stop opening for her because they're. They have their own careers now.

[Nora]

Yeah. She's a kingmaker.

[Grace]

Yeah. And that's all I'll say. But t. Okay. Cat. Cat's eye.

[Nora]

Cat's eye.

[Grace]

Cat's eye.

[Nora]

Cat's eye. I'm. I'm still working. I'm working through their catalog now.

[Grace]

What kind of music do they.

[Nora]

They're. They're like a K pop group.

[Grace]

Gotcha. Okay. That was gonna be my guess, but I wanted you to say it. The Marias.

[Nora]

Okay. Yeah, the Maria.

[Grace]

The Maria's from. No different. Okay. There was. The Maria's, right? There was, like, another.

[Nora]

Which Maria's are y' all talking about?

[Grace]

Yeah, they said that. Wouldn't they say you go, ooh, ooh, ah.

[Nora]

Go.

[Grace]

Oh, no, it's a different.

[Nora]

Oh, how long have y' all known each other for?

[Grace]

Oh, that's my sister. We always have to preface.

[Nora]

I was like, oh. I was like, oh, we all, like, best friend. Y', all, like, grew up together.

[Grace]

We were, like, talking without talking.

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Yeah.

[Nora]

I was just like, y' all aren't saying any words, but you're. Y' all seem to know exactly what each other is talking about. Okay, that makes. That makes all the sense in the world.

[Grace]

Sorry. We usually preface because then we'll, like, start fighting, and it's like, oh, Grace. You, like. You're kind of mean to, like, the people you work with. Like, no, it's my sister.

[Nora]

Oh, I see what y' all's got. Oh, no, that's not crazy.

[Grace]

It's three and a half. But. And also, when she first moved to New York, she said, oh, my God, all your friends are so old. Now a year later, she's like, age doesn't really matter in New York, does it? I'm like, you fucking bitch. Oh, I. I can't help it. That was so mean. Do you know how mean that was? Also, I was calling. I'm like, oh, Nor. You're, like, my best friend. She's like, you're my. My sister. We had a rough patch when she first moved here.

[Nora]

She's like, yeah. She's like, it's like, I love you, but, like, you're not my closest homie, you know? I got Ashley, I got Brenda. Like, I got. I got some real dogs in my life like you. Not really.

[Grace]

We luck, though.

[Nora]

We cool. We cool, though. We cool, though. Mom and dad, like, I with them. I fuck with what we. All them dinners we had together, I like that stuff. It felt good. But, like, you know, I got. I didn't. You know, I got my people, you got your people, and that's okay. Church and state, you know, we can't be doing everything together just because we came out the same. Lady, you being ridiculous.

[Grace]

And we were. We were doing everything together. I was like, what is wrong here?

[Nora]

Y' all work together?

[Grace]

Yeah, yeah, we were working together, living together and hanging out together.

[Nora]

One had to go, yeah, that's too many things. So now y' all don't live together anymore? Yeah, that's what I figured. Would have had to go.

[Grace]

Okay, so the Marias.

[Nora]

Yes, the Marias. It was really crazy.

[Grace]

Yeah, I could totally understand that.

[Nora]

The Maria's. Yeah, I. I've been a fan of the Marias, like, for years, actually. They were like, they've been around, you Know, sometimes like, best new artist is an artist has been around for like nine years.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

This is that like the Maria's have been around probably since at least like 2016, 2017, something like that. They're like, they're like. They're like kind of like dreamy pop. Like, they're like very like. Like, if I was. If I. This is, this is the thing that I actually want to do on the show. I want to do like. Like they just. They cue me up for each of these artists and I say like, what their music is good to do while you're listening to it.

[Grace]

Oh, I like that.

[Nora]

The Maria's is like. Yeah. If you're at like a. If you're at like a girl with blue hair's house and you like want to make her seem like you know what's going on, you put the Maria's on.

[Grace]

Oh, yeah. That's good. Wait, so I get. I guess the pivot there is just if you want to set the mood, but you've got a certain kind of girl.

[Nora]

Yeah, exactly.

[Grace]

What kind of a girl listens to Alex Warren?

[Nora]

A girl that. A girl that's in the closet. But not about being gay, about being Christian.

[Grace]

Oh, it's good. That's really good.

[Nora]

I never. I listened to that guy for the first time and it's. He makes like praise and worship music, but it's not about God.

[Grace]

It's not.

[Nora]

He may. It has like this, but he. I read about him because I never. I'd never heard of him before.

[Grace]

Dude, he was in the hyposis.

[Nora]

Yes. He was like a tick tock guy who was like doing the hype house stuff. And then he started making music. He was like living in his car. He started making music and he was basically like. Yeah, I wanted to make music that like sounded like church. Like big, like megachurch music.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

But like about just like love and relationships and stuff. So it sounds like God music, but it's not about God.

[Grace]

It's very like.

[Nora]

Yes, very like. And I love. No, see, I already made it to. It's like.

[Grace]

It's like. It's like you're taking your breath like something. So.

[Nora]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the God above is with us. Yeah. And he's never gonna stop.

[Grace]

His dad had died, so I think that his God above is his dad. He sings about his dad sometimes kind of being like right up there.

[Nora]

Praise the Lord.

[Grace]

He seems like a cool guy, but his music, I just. I'm gonna keep my opinion to myself. Leon Thomas. It's about time for him.

[Nora]

Leon Thomas. Yeah, Nick. He's a nickelodeon kid. Yeah. I liked his album a lot.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

I really. I really with it, if y' all ever. Yeah.

[Grace]

Produced a lot of music, too.

[Nora]

Yes. Like, been in the game for, like, a while. It's speaking to somebody who's been around for a long time, but, like, it's just now having a moment. His is really. His is really cool. I really like him a lot, and I think we'd be friends. I think we get along, I'll tell you.

[Grace]

You will?

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Because I met him one time.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

And he was, like, the coolest dude. It was, like, cold out. We were at some party in la and there was only one space heater, and we were all, like, huddled up under it, and I. I, like, didn't want to take up too much room. He's like, get in here. You look freezing. And then we were shooting the. And then he walked away. I was like, he was on Victorious. That was crazy. And I was like, what's he doing here? What's he been doing? And I looked it up, and he's like. He's on, like, so many albums as, like, working on a lot of them. Yeah. It's crazy.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

And then we've got. Oh, Addison Rae.

[Nora]

Addison Rae. I think she's like. You know, it's like. That's, like. It's like really. It's, like, really poppy. I like some of those joints. I like.

[Grace]

That's a. That's a Murray Hill girl.

[Nora]

Yeah, it is. Like, I don't think we would be at the same bars, but.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

You know, we're separate, but we equal.

[Grace]

You should run for office now. What kind of girl listens to Somber? A child?

[Nora]

Interesting question. Definitely somebody who's younger than I am, for sure. Somebody who's younger than me. I think now there's, like, a lot of these. Like, a lot of these guys, like, look exactly the same to me, and that's. I don't know if they actually do or if I'm just getting older and I'm just being like, oh, you, like. They all, like. He looks like five other, like, music guys that I feel like are also popping off right now.

[Grace]

The thing he has in strength is how tall he is. That kind of sets him apart, I guess. He's like. He's what? Sorry. So that's the end of that segment.

[Nora]

Yeah.

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[Grace]

Let'S see what we have on the cards. And we'll get you out of here, I promise. Okay, now, when I say the following words or phrases, I want you to tell me what comes to your head.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

H E B in Kyle, Texas.

[Nora]

Oh, you did a little research. Oh, my God. You did. You did a little research. This is more than most. Damn. When did I talk about that? Yeah, I worked at it, didn't you? Just knew.

[Grace]

Been a fan for a while.

[Nora]

Yeah. Yeah, I did. Used to work at HEB in Kyle, Texas.

[Grace]

That's a gas station.

[Nora]

No, it's a grocery store.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Nora]

It's a grocery store. It's like the main. In the part of Texas I'm from, that's like the main grocery store.

[Grace]

Okay. Gotcha.

[Nora]

And honestly, they're incredible. Grocery store. I know everybody goes up for their, like, regional grocery store. The Florida people are always with, like, publix. I know. The, like, the Philly people are always going up for. What is Wawa? Wawa.

[Grace]

Yeah. That's a gas station.

[Nora]

Wawa is a gas station. Yeah, but, like, they do sandwiches.

[Grace]

They go nuts for that. I'll stand by.

[Nora]

What's the Boston Market basket? What is. Can I ask a question? I know I'm getting off the subject.

[Grace]

No, it's okay.

[Nora]

Why do you guys talk so different?

[Grace]

Oh, because I. I don't know you.

[Nora]

Okay. You wonder this as well. Y' all are. Y' all are blood relatives. You grew up in the same house.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

You're completely different accents.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Interesting.

[Grace]

Yeah. And if I get drunk, it gets worse.

[Nora]

Yeah. That's classic.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Really? You would blame it on the phone? Yeah. I I. I think it's more like I grew up with mom and dad. They, like, they're like. They have such thick Boston accents, my parents. And I think just being with them for, like. Like, the years before you were there, I think were, like, impressionable. Like, four years is when I start talking. And, like, I just. Yeah, I just kind of, like, emulated what they did. I guess it's weird because, like, everyone gives me shit. I, like, I grew up in the suburbs of Boston. Yeah. And so everyone's like, no. Nobody who grew up in the burbs talks like that. Oh, my God. My parents do. So, like, I got it from them.

[Nora]

Yeah, that makes sense. All right.

[Grace]

Why don't you have a Southern accent?

[Nora]

I think. I think it's going away. I don't know when I started, maybe because I started performing, maybe. I don't know. I don't know where it went. Like, it was really not intentional, but, like, I used to have a completely different.

[Grace]

It's so crazy, right?

[Nora]

Accent than how I talk now.

[Grace]

Did you start the stand up in Austin?

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Okay. And so before pre, that was. Yeah, that was a whole different vibe going on there. It used to be, like, a fun little.

[Nora]

Used to be cool.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Cool place to be. Now it's a place for, like, MMA fighters to, like, tell rape jokes or whatever.

[Grace]

Yeah. Just bash their head against their colleagues. Yeah, basically. Yeah, it's. Yeah, that's what it is.

[Nora]

Shout out to the Heb and Kyle.

[Grace]

So we got the Heb. What about Ah Sing Den?

[Nora]

Where are you getting this from? Where are you getting. Where. Where are y' all getting this from? When did I talk about this? This is actually. This is some, like, nardoir shit where I'm just like, where did I. I'm like, where would I.

[Grace]

Different hat.

[Nora]

I'm like, where would I have ever talked about the A Singh Den?

[Grace]

Was this a. This was a closed cocktail bar in Austin that you loved? What are you.

[Nora]

That's okay. Respect respects you.

[Grace]

Really?

[Nora]

You're doing research that. I'm like. I'm not even really. I'm not sure when I ever talked about this.

[Grace]

I love when you're able to do this. Whoa. No one's really good at this.

[Nora]

That's. That's like. I mean, the. The Heb and Kyle and. Wow, man. Yeah. I mean, the A Sing Din was just like, a bar that I used to really, really fuck with. It was like this, like, kind of, like, Asian inspired, like, cocktail spot. I don't think it even exists anymore. I think asing din is close. The city is so, so, so different. I lived in 2018 and it's even from then to now.

[Grace]

The big boom.

[Nora]

Yeah, totally.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Right. Right before Austin got cool. But yeah, the Ossenden is. Yeah, I used to go there. That used to be like, if I was like, being fancy.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

You know, if I was like, oh, I'm gonna go spend like 17 on a cocktail.

[Grace]

Oh, it was like a snazzy bar.

[Nora]

Yeah. It was like a snazzy spot. Like, that's. If I was like trying to like, have like a, like a nice night, I was going to assingde that.

[Grace]

Yeah. That's really. That's an intimate fact. Yeah.

[Nora]

I'm like, wait, what? That's so crazy.

[Grace]

The Bobby Bones Show.

[Nora]

Okay, now that one. Okay. Yeah, the Bobby Bones Show. Bobby Bones was like a pop in radio host when I was like, growing up from like, middle school through, like, college. He was like a really popular.

[Grace]

He was nationwide.

[Nora]

He. I think he still is. I mean, I haven't checked back in on him in a minute, but like, when I was growing up, he was like the big local guy and he was like. He was like the star of like, the local radio scene. And I got a. You know, because I was like, oh, I want to go into broadcasting. So I got an internship working there, and I used to go there three days a week, and I would drive from San Marcos, which is like 40 minutes or so away. I'll drive from San Marcos down to Austin at like 5am oh, to go like, get coffee and like that. He. He was not very cool to us.

[Grace]

Oh, that sucks.

[Nora]

And honestly, that. That experience really made me be like, yeah, I don't think I want to do broadcasting.

[Grace]

He's the country Ryan Seacrest.

[Nora]

Literally, like, that's like. He was like trying to be Ryan Seacrest. That was like his like, like goal. That's like where he was trying to go. I remember we were there when like Regis and Kelly, one of them, I want to say Regis was like, like, had to take some time off and so they did a bunch of guests.

[Grace]

Assume it was him.

[Nora]

Yeah, Regis had to take a bunch of time off, and so they did.

[Grace]

Kelly slurs.

[Nora]

Of course, that's. But you used to be able to talk like that. America used to be cool.

[Grace]

What? She is a. I'm registered feeling.

[Nora]

Rest. Rest in peace, Regis.

[Grace]

Oh, yeah. But I actually. I don't think anything ever came out about him.

[Nora]

I don't think so.

[Grace]

But like, but it is.

[Nora]

But back in the day, you used to Come on. You know, you used to just be able to act like that. But. But yeah, I remember Regis was like, le. Like gone for something, and they like, did a bunch of fan votes for, like, guest hosts. And I remember, like, he had all the fans, like, in the. In Texas, like, in the markets that he broadcast in vote for him, and then he got to go beat.

[Grace]

He got it.

[Nora]

Yeah, he got it. He was the host in, like, I don't know. This was. This is along to this, like, 2011 and.

[Grace]

Oh, he probably was rock hard for that.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

I just. I'm picturing what he looks like. He's just like, such. He's Bobby Bones.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

He's got glasses. He's got like, the. The cut. He's just like.

[Nora]

He's.

[Grace]

He's Bobby.

[Nora]

He was a. I did not like that guy. He was. He was not nice to us.

[Grace]

That sucks. Long. Did you work with him?

[Nora]

I was only. I was there for a semester, so I only. I did it for. And then they, like, cut. They cut my unpaid internship short because I, like, asked for time off because I had finals coming up. And they were. They were like, we can tell you're not taking this seriously, so we'll just. We'll end your semester now.

[Grace]

I'm sorry, I'm not getting paid. Also, I have to do this for school. And actually, you know, what comes first at school?

[Nora]

School. Yeah, exactly.

[Grace]

So that's crazy. Yeah.

[Nora]

Not. Was. Was not a fit, but yeah.

[Grace]

Did you get the credit?

[Nora]

Yeah, yeah, I got the internship credit or whatever, but it was. Whatever. I also didn't pursue the thing anymore, but yeah, Bobby Bunch. They're there. I don't think this video exists, but there used to be a video of me freestyle rapping on the Bobby Bones Show.

[Grace]

How did that. How did that go?

[Nora]

Because we. They used to make us pitch stuff. You would have to. You would come in at five.

[Grace]

What that sounds like TMZ rooms. Like, hey, I got this.

[Nora]

You know, actually, though, really, you would have to pit. They wanted you to pitch three ideas for, like, segments every single day that you came in. And, like, again, you're to be there at 5am so, like, that would mean like, the night before or the morning of, like, waking up in like, and thinking of three new segment ideas. It's like, there's nine new segments a week. Yeah. For free. But yeah, I came up with one where we did some kind of like, freestyle rap thing. And I don't think he do it. Yeah, yeah, he rapped too.

[Grace]

How was he?

[Nora]

We both Rapped you out. Yeah.

[Grace]

How dare you make me look like a fool?

[Nora]

Yeah. He said. He said the N word live. That's. That's how he got.

[Grace]

He's got that look.

[Nora]

That's how he. That's how he got his job. Country radio.

[Grace]

They said.

[Nora]

They said, hey, we saw what you did with that freestyle rap. Let's go. Let's go and bring that national. We like. We like what you weigh, how you.

[Grace]

Like, to more stations. Yeah.

[Nora]

How'd you like to be in Nashville? But, yeah, then he then, like, a couple. Like, not long after I interned for him, he, like, became, like, a national radio guy.

[Grace]

Okay. Got.

[Nora]

I wondered. I wonder if he knows that I'm me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I wonder if he knows who I am at all. Like, this version of me so much.

[Grace]

In his head that, like, I feel like. Like, from what you're describing, those kinds of people, they're like interns.

[Nora]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I doubt that he really registered me as a person. He might know who I am now, but I don't. If he does, there's no way he remembers that I'm that guy from before.

[Grace]

It's kind of awesome to, like, beat Bobby Bones.

[Nora]

No, he's still doing better than me, I bet.

[Grace]

Radio is a dying breed.

[Nora]

That's true.

[Grace]

I hate to say it, but I think.

[Nora]

I feel like there's, like, 10 guys doing good in radio, and I feel like he is one of them.

[Grace]

And I also. I met a really sweet lady who I did a. I did a radio interview with, and I said, radio's alive forever. So I. I just.

[Nora]

She listens to this, her heart sinks.

[Grace]

I just. Radio will die for the guys who should.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Let's just put it at that. Fuck you, Bobby Bones. The Mighty Ducks.

[Nora]

The Mighty Ducks 2 is one of my favorite movies when I was a little kid. Yeah, I used to watch it all the time. It is one of the few sequels that's better than the original. It's the one where they go to the Olympics. I also love the Olympics. I got to go. I went to the Olympics in Paris. It was.

[Grace]

Oh, you love the Olympics in general. I thought you meant in general.

[Nora]

I love the Olympics. I've always loved the Olympics since I was a kid.

[Grace]

So that's in Italy this year.

[Nora]

Yeah, the Winter Olympics. I don't really care about the Winter.

[Grace]

Don't care about that.

[Nora]

Yeah, no, know.

[Grace]

That's. That's fair.

[Nora]

I'm a Summer Olympics guy. What are your sports I legitimately, I. I like. I really like everything, especially the more, like, obscure stuff. I like the, like, normal stuff. I like basketball, I like soccer. But, like, I really, like. I'm getting into tennis lately. Oh, I. With tennis.

[Grace]

Did you. Oh, did you go to the open?

[Nora]

Yeah, I went to u. S. Open for the last couple years.

[Grace]

And what's the vibe there? I've never been.

[Nora]

It's, it's. It is a little. It's the stuffiest of all the sports.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Nora]

Like, if you think it, like, like, like if on one end is, like the bougiest end of sports and on one end is, like, the, like, least bougie, it's like, it's like tennis is, like, on the bougie stand and like, boxing is, like, on the other side.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

And I've been to. I've been to, like, both, like, big matches for both and like. Yeah, tennis is like, you could. You kind of gotta, like, wear a suit.

[Grace]

Yeah. No, you gotta, like, dress up a little bit. You kinda have to whisper, it seems like.

[Nora]

Yeah. Except for you can't talk at all during the points. During the points, you're supposed to be, like, silent. And then, like, after the point, you can, like, like, clap or whatever.

[Grace]

Do you play tennis?

[Nora]

Yeah, I played last night.

[Grace]

Oh, no, wait. Where? It's freesync.

[Nora]

I play. It's there. There.

[Grace]

I play.

[Nora]

I play indoors. I play indoors. I'm not gonna say the name of.

[Grace]

The court because they.

[Nora]

Because you know what? You know what they did? They offered me a. They offered me like, a, like a brand deal situation, but for no money. They were like, we're not gonna give you any money, but we'll, like, give you some free lessons. And I was like, oh, cool. Like, how many are you thinking? They're like, oh, three. And I was like, well, you can't.

[Grace]

Not give me a goddamn star.

[Nora]

Yeah. I was like, you can't not pay me money and only give me three lessons. I was like, what if you gave me 10? And they go, negotiations are over. We're not working with you.

[Grace]

Oh, what the fuck?

[Nora]

So I'm not. I'm not advertising them at all. I still do go, but I'm not.

[Grace]

A free trial to see if you like tennis.

[Nora]

The thing is, I already go, like, so I, like, already was going. And, like, I got in the habit of playing over there, but it's like.

[Grace]

No, I'm not, damn it.

[Nora]

I'm not. I know. So they already kind of. They already kind of have me, and there's not. And it's hard. Hard to, like, find a place to play indoors, like in New York.

[Grace]

That's a million dollars.

[Nora]

But. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Grace]

Do you have friends that play tennis?

[Nora]

Yes.

[Grace]

Okay, so this wasn't like a solo journey.

[Nora]

No, no, no. I got friends. My girl plays, too. Okay. It's like, we'll like.

[Grace]

Did she start playing first?

[Nora]

No, we both started playing consistently together.

[Grace]

Okay. I was going to say, because if she played tennis first, then you just, like, so happened to get into it. Yeah, you're. You're in deep.

[Nora]

That's true.

[Grace]

You're in deep. But if you do it together, that's perfect. That's a nice thing.

[Nora]

That's nice.

[Grace]

Okay, let's see if we can just rapid fire these bad boys. Bonobos.

[Nora]

You're. You are good. You are good. Yeah, I worked. I worked for Bonobos. It was my first job.

[Grace]

Bonobos. My apologies.

[Nora]

It's okay. Yeah. Respect the name of my former employer. No, I worked. I worked for Bonobos. It was my first job that I got when I moved to New York. It's mainly a pants company. They also do. They do shirts and, like, suits and stuff like that, but they started with pants.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Nora]

Their whole thing was like. They were like, we're gonna come up with the exact right fit of pant for every type of man. So they're like, all right, if you got big legs, we got, like, big leg stuff. We got, like, skinny stuff, we got, like, ever. They have, like, a bunch of different types of fits. But it's a type of place where if you go into the. I worked in customer service.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

So I was at the headquarters. But if you work in a store, they do a thing where they fit you for the type of pants that they. That you want to wear. And then if you like them, they're like, all right, we'll mail them to you. You can't have the pants. When you get fitted for them, they just.

[Grace]

Because they have to be custom.

[Nora]

I get. Well, because they don't keep any. They don't keep inventory in the store. They only keep enough stuff for you to try on.

[Grace]

Is that good for business?

[Nora]

I would have to imagine. No.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

But when I was there, they got bought by Walmart. While I was there, they got some money over there.

[Grace]

It's like, big and tall, tailored.

[Nora]

Yeah, kind of.

[Grace]

I didn't even know that was a thing, Frank. Ocean's hiatus.

[Nora]

I mean, I must have talked about this, but yeah, I mean, Frank, come back to us. Frank. I think he's been gone for it's literally this year will be 10 years since he put out his last album.

[Grace]

That's a decade.

[Nora]

Yeah, he's like, put out a couple like loose singles, but like, has not put out any body of work in like, it'll be a decade in like probably August.

[Grace]

Has he teased anything? Like, is he teased that he like.

[Nora]

Is working or like he's been making jewelry? He's been making. He's been making like absurdly expensive jewelry.

[Grace]

It's always so expensive.

[Nora]

Yeah. That in a way that I'm like, I don't know who would even be buying this. That's part of the jewelry line. The jewelry line had like a diamond encrusted cock ring that costs like, that's what you.

[Grace]

That's what you get free. If you get your STD screening in la, they're giving those out.

[Nora]

Well, Los Angeles, I'm on my way. I'm on my way and I'm gonna want that ring.

[Grace]

And then we've got. I don't know how to say this. Flugerville, Con. Connolly Cougars.

[Nora]

Pflugerville. That's. It's. That's close.

[Grace]

P F L U G E. It's crazy.

[Nora]

It's crazy.

[Grace]

That is, that's, that's like Whoville.

[Nora]

Yes, that's the, that's the town I grew up in. I grew up in Pflugerville. It's right outside of Austin. It's like immediately north of Austin. And yeah, it's. I didn't go to Connolly. That was like, that was like a neighboring house. You were close. You're close.

[Grace]

Noah's really good at this. She couldn't find any like, of like any pictures because we usually do pictures to like kind of show you and have you explain. Yeah, but they were all squeaky clean, so she had to, she had to go in on these fun facts to make things interesting.

[Nora]

I like it that way. I like, I like to really. I like there to be as little about me available as possible.

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[Nora]

Where the. Did you. I mean that's gotta be so. Yeah, that's somewhere. Yeah, that's somewhere. That was for a web series that I did. That was for a web series that I did that never came out. It was, it wasn't my web series. I was like a part of it. But it's like there was all this, like we had to do all this like fundraising and like all this to get this off the ground and then it never even got.

[Grace]

Do you know what happened?

[Nora]

I think, I don't know, some beef with the girl who started it in the editor or something like. Or they ran out of money. You said it, not me.

[Grace]

What's this?

[Nora]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. It's for Kyle Ayers podcast. Oh, yeah. Wow. That's from a long time ago. Yeah, he used to or maybe still does a podcast called Never Seen it where he brings in comics to write a script or a scene from a movie that they've never seen before.

[Grace]

Oh, I love that. Yeah, that's awesome.

[Nora]

And so I forget, I forget which one I did, but yeah, that's from that. These are images that I've never seen before. These are crazy. Where are you finding this stuff?

[Grace]

Nothing. Nothing crazy, but it is like crazy that we found it.

[Nora]

Well, because it's also like, that's not even. Neither of those guys are even me. But like this is, that's from like, that's like a poster from a stand up show I did like seven years ago.

[Grace]

That's crazy. What were you just in like the tags? Yeah.

[Nora]

Oh, I see. This is from tag photos. Oh, that makes a great look.

[Grace]

Nora.

[Nora]

Whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. That's me and Joey Dardano. That's.

[Grace]

Wait, that's Joey?

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

That's so funny.

[Nora]

That's me and Joey. That's. That's Halloween probably 20, 2019. We both went as Igor when Tyler the creator was doing Igor. I bought that wig for like $3 on Amazon.

[Grace]

It's perfect. It looks like the one he wears. Yeah, basically Joey's not so much.

[Nora]

Yeah, I think Joey bought that on tour, which is what's funny. I think he bought it at.

[Grace]

The thing is, Joey. Did you and Joey start out together?

[Nora]

Not really, but I feel like we moved to New York around the same time.

[Grace]

Okay, gotcha.

[Nora]

So like we of kind, kind of came up Together in that way.

[Grace]

In the studio. Is this you and Bobby Bones or what's happening here?

[Nora]

I don't think there's any images of me and Bobby Bones, like, at all. Cuz that was also before everything was like, on video.

[Grace]

Oh, yeah. You know, it's a radio show.

[Nora]

Yeah. And it's a radio show. So like, that's all like. And even, even the audio files, I don't even know if those are around. But anyway, yeah, this is like, I. I'm in, like in Austin, there's this apartment complex called Sandstone and all the comedians. It was just like a shitty apartment complex that a bunch of comedians lived in. And this was, I want to say, this guy Pat Dean's podcast, he did this podcast. It was like a storytelling thing. And I think I was telling a story about this time when me and a bunch of my Korean homies got in a fist fight.

[Grace]

Was this against the Mexicans or.

[Nora]

No, I'm sorry. Vietnamese homies. I apologize.

[Grace]

Yeah, that's quite all right.

[Nora]

You can't get those communities mixed up.

[Grace]

They don't like that. Oh, yeah, it is not. Okay, that's not.

[Nora]

My bad.

[Grace]

20 years from now. What is that?

[Nora]

Oh, yeah, that was like a page. I want to say it was started by Brian Park. Where it was, you would take like old, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder. That page might still exist. But yeah, it was literally, it's all just comics posting pictures of themselves around 20 years previous to like, oh, that's cute. And so, yeah, it's a picture of me with a. With a matching Power Rangers shirt and short set.

[Grace]

That's adorable.

[Nora]

Seemingly like a lightsaber of some sort in my hand. Yeah, I stand by that fit. I said as like a five year old, I think I kind of had that shit on.

[Grace]

Now here we have a tweet.

[Nora]

Yeah.

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[Nora]

I don't have that many tweets up.

[Grace]

My love language is showing up to my workplace 47 minutes late like nothing happened.

[Nora]

Yeah, that's from. That's from when I worked at Bonobos.

[Grace]

They're too busy measuring ball size. Yeah. For all anyone cares, that's from when.

[Nora]

I worked at Bonobos. And at that point I probably hadn't even worked there for that long, so I shouldn't have been showing up late like that. I really didn't have much of an excuse.

[Grace]

2017 just found out that mine. I don't want to fuck anything up. I don't want to fuck anything up.

[Nora]

Just found out that M. Night Shyamalan wrote The screenplay for Stuart Little. And I'm furious. That's. That's a thousand percent true. I remember. I remember where I was when I found that out, and it was really, really upsetting, because who the fuck gave him that responsibility? Why would M Night be involved with any of that? He has no business being around that mouse or Jonathan Lipnicki.

[Grace]

I see him as a rat.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

When Frank Ocean hurt you so many times, then the new music comes out, and you realize you can't stay mad at him.

[Nora]

Yeah. That's 2016. Okay. That was kind of a banger. And it still hits. That's a 2016 banger. Yeah. I really stand by that one. I did not have a very prolific career as a tweeter, but, yeah, I stand on that.

[Grace]

Me feeling good about myself for a moment. Facebook memories. Remember when you posted those big. Those Big Sean lyrics before a small house party in 2012? LOL. You lame.

[Nora]

Yeah, no. Yeah, for sure. Because I'd be going, I get on.

[Grace]

What are you Facebooking?

[Nora]

Like, I get on Facebook. Kind of like. Kind of like. I remember. I like. Literally, there's a. There's a Big Sean bar where he starts it going. Shrimp, steak, liquor, and pasta. And that was just my Facebook post. That was just a Facebook post that I did in, like, 2012. And it's like, I couldn't have been going to nothing, and I wasn't eating none of that stuff. I was drinking liquor, but none of it was good for me. And all of it made my head hurt. Like, everything about that sucks that I ever would have done that. I was not having shrimp. I was not having steak. I was having liquor, but the worst possible version. And I was making pasta, but it was spaghetti with prego at my house. And my apartment was not nice, so nothing about it was glamorous. And I was like. Like, flexing before. Yeah. I probably went to some night where we drank, like, four Locos. And I like.

[Grace]

You're. You're full on, like. Like, just liquid lunch.

[Nora]

Yeah.

[Grace]

Just like, let's pretend I ate really well today. That's the thing about, like, when you're in college and you just have to pretend you.

[Nora]

And I really. I just. Exactly.

[Grace]

I'm not starving.

[Nora]

I like looking at Facebook memories to remind myself of, like, who I used to be.

[Grace]

And I used to.

[Nora]

I used to be somebody who quoted Big Sean in his status. And, you know, and I deserve to be shamed for that.

[Grace]

You know what would be really funny is, have you seen that Last Meal show?

[Nora]

No.

[Grace]

There's A show where the guy. He's a chef, and he'll ask whoever the guest is, like, what would be your last meal? And you can pick anything, and it could be anything. Like your mom's recipe, like the recipe from a restaurant down the street from you. And he'll call them, ask them how to make it, and he'll make all this stuff for you.

[Nora]

Oh, cool.

[Grace]

And interview you. Now, I think it would be really funny if Big Sean just. Just said. What was it?

[Nora]

Shrimp steak, liquor, and pasta.

[Grace]

Perfect.

[Nora]

I forget what song that was.

[Grace]

And. Yeah, and then that's a double up. All right. Well, you're pretty squeaky clean.

[Nora]

I do my best. I do my best.

[Grace]

That's why you. That's why you get to go to the Grammys.

[Nora]

It. It does. It helps. I never was really talking spicy on the Internet, and I'm. I'm really happy for. For that.

[Grace]

You saved it. You saved up for your girl when you're playing tennis.

[Nora]

Exactly. And I do. And I. I want to win. I really do. I'd be playing a win.

[Grace]

So let me see if I missed anything here. I don't. I don't think I did. I think. Well, I definitely have a thousand things I want to ask you, but we'll end on this.

[Nora]

Okay.

[Grace]

Is this okay? One more game, and then we're out of here.

[Nora]

I promise.

[Grace]

Okay. Now, the game is inspired from your podcast. We're gonna pull a lyric, sing it off key, and the other person has to guess the song.

[Nora]

I like it.

[Grace]

Okay, so I'll start us off. And they ain't spending no cake. They should throw they hand in cause they ain't got no spades. My whole team got dough. So my bankhead is looking like millionaires row.

[Nora]

My bank head looking like My bank head is looking like millionaires row. I do know. I know that specific. Oh, it's Jay Z. It's. It's. It's from Jay's. It's from Watch the Throne. I want to say it's My big head looking like millionaires row. My big head looking like millionaires row Got no dose. Oh, it's run this time.

[Grace]

That was really good. Yes.

[Nora]

It's not.

[Grace]

Watch this.

[Nora]

Okay. That. Honestly, I was completely lost until you got to. My bankhead look like millionaires.

[Grace]

Yeah, but you fig that out.

[Nora]

Yeah. Okay. Oh, but you won't know this song.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Nora]

All that.

[Grace]

You would know.

[Nora]

Oh, okay. She. You would. You know. You know.

[Grace]

Okay, well, I don't know what it is.

[Nora]

It was. It was a George Straight song. It was all, my exes live in Texas.

[Grace]

Yeah, my. Like I said, my dad's a bootlicker.

[Nora]

Oh, sure. Well, okay. I. I just assumed. I was like. I was like. I was like, y' all from Boston. You're not gonna know.

[Grace]

Yeah, no, you'd be surprised.

[Nora]

Okay. But I like this one better, actually. Damn. How should I say it? Okay. Should I sing it? I guess. You so you.

[Grace]

So I just went. I don't know. That was the first thing that came to my mind.

[Nora]

Man. How should I do it? But I'm almost done. Let me get back to it. Whole lotta loud and a little backwood Whole lotta money, bitch. Big tip I would put her on the train Little engine could bitch. No idea where that came from. No idea where that came from. Emmy. I've never hit that tune. I've never. I've never made that type of sound before. I'm really not clear on where I brought that from within myself. And I don't know. I'll have to. I'll have to think about that on the way home. What the was that? Oh, you found it.

[Grace]

Wale. That's the next. That's his next. Yeah. So the wallet is featured.

[Nora]

Yes. You're right. You're right there.

[Grace]

I know you're right there. Whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. No hands. Waka flocka.

[Nora]

Yes.

[Grace]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Nora]

This, actually. This is the Wale verse. So you had that, right?

[Grace]

Oh, so he's ending it.

[Nora]

Yeah, yeah. But I'm almost done. Let me get back to it. Whole lot of loud on a little bag wood hold him in A big tip I would put her on the train Little engine cook.

[Grace]

Oh, I thought it was.

[Nora]

Well, that's the. That's the edited version. In the edited version, they go. I showed her on the engine Wale. Yeah, that's the Raider Over.

[Grace]

Okay. Yeah, I. You know, Bobby Bones. Oh, that was fun. That was good. That was good. Maybe one more. That was one more it. Okay. That was the one you thought I didn't know. Okay, let's do this. I don't know that one. I don't like Eminem. Okay. She told me that she. She. She told me that she loved that. I make music for God.

[Nora]

Oh, I got it.

[Grace]

I told her I would love to see that.

[Nora]

Applaud. That's Chance. That's Chance the rapper. You make me put my booty on that Gucci belt. You ain't got no label, she ain't got no table. Okay. Though I'm the one. I'm the one by DJ Khaled.

[Grace]

It is. But you wrote down no Brainer.

[Nora]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's, that's a different song. Okay, so let me, let me.

[Grace]

Because I was with you.

[Nora]

Let me, let me, let me clear this part up. Let me clear this part up because I, I'm reading this series about like number one hit records and it does like every number one from like the 60s on. And these two songs both hit number one, I believe. But they both were like DJ Khaled and like Justin Bieber and like, like Quavo and Chance the Rapper.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

No Brainer was like put your hands in the sky way ahead there. And then there was the other one. It was wait, no Brainer. And then what was the other one?

[Grace]

I'm the one. Yeah.

[Nora]

And I'm the one and you looking for the truth and no, you never lie Now I'm the one.

[Grace]

How does no brainer go?

[Nora]

Put your hands in the sky hey yeah hey yeah yeah hey oh yeah Something something something you the best. It's a no brainer. So they both have Justin Bieber on the hook and DJ Khaled songs and the same featured artist. So it's like. And they were both big hit songs around the same time, so it's really hard to crazy not conflate them with each other. So I said, I said one of them and it was the other one, but.

[Grace]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's great. That's crazy. I forgot about that.

[Nora]

That's the type of that I think about.

[Grace]

Yeah, somebody is. And then if you wanna, if you wanna, if you wanna lead us out. I'm gonna end on this, get you the hell out of here. I feel like I'm gonna keep you captive in below freezing weather.

[Nora]

It feels so wrong when Chance the rapper is sexual. I don't like it.

[Grace]

I wish you would not find God again.

[Nora]

Yeah, yeah, he's, you know, he's doing good from prayers up to him. Ooh, this is interesting. I can. I only know how to sing in the way that I did it the last time.

[Grace]

Yeah, no, I just. I think I did that again.

[Nora]

Teddy Pender grass cooler than Freddy Jackson Sipping on a milkshake in a snowstorm left my throat warm in a dorm in the AU we blew hey too athletes might date you but you as you sticking with them statements that you made cuz you might have me mistaken with the statements that you made cuz.

[Grace]

Got h saw this year the hedgehogs here that was the tune and I couldn't I was. I was trying to find the tune that you were doing. And what.

[Nora]

What is that? I don't know where that comes from.

[Grace]

That's the holiday season from Hatch.

[Nora]

Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Anyway, one more time. Teddy Pendergrass, cooler than Freddy Jackson, sipping on a milkshake in a snowstorm Left my throat warmer than the dorm in the aue Blew that hay tube. Athletes might date you. You must have me mistake me with them statements that you made.

[Grace]

Cause, yeah, that's gonna be a big loss for me.

[Nora]

So fresh and so clean.

[Grace]

Oh, damn you blue.

[Nora]

Hate to athletes might date you, but you must have me mistaken with them statements that you make. Cuz.

[Grace]

Yeah, I couldn't get over the hestruck.

[Nora]

No, it's. It's crazy what I'm doing.

[Grace]

No, no, it's crazy to hear it in a different. In a different way. So just to end things, if you want to look right here, you can give any shout out to anybody and you can go as long as you want. We. We like crazy where credit is due here. So any shout out. And then also where can they find you and leave a review of the podcast. Yeah, personally, with. With your mouth.

[Nora]

Yeah, got you. Hey, yo.

[Grace]

Save it for la.

[Nora]

Yeah, man. If I could give a shout out to anybody, if I could get a shout out to anybody, it would be. It would be the producer on my podcast, Carmen Kerrigan, because she really does a lot of work and it would not exist without her helping me, like, sort out all the shit. Carmen, if you ever hear this, I appreciate you. And I don't know if I tell you that enough. Thank you for everything that you do.

[Grace]

Love you, Nora.

[Nora]

You know what I'm saying? Truly, it's like, truly, it's like handling. They're handling all the booking shit and be like, hey, we can't use this studio. What if we're really. And being like, oh, you're gonna be in la, you should meet with like, like and Marshall.

[Grace]

Yeah, yeah, we've got, we've got. We've got.

[Nora]

We've got a whole team.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Nora]

Yeah. So shout out to Carmen. What were the other things? Review the podcast and what else? Oh, plug anything. Yeah, My favorite lyrics. I have a podcast called My Favorite Lyrics. We literally just talk about song lyrics and like a lot of Big Sean and like a lot of just silly music, rap lyrics. I bring people on, they talk about what kind of music they grew up on and what they like, and then we will break down a song. Kind of like rap genius, but like like with jokes. It's honestly a really fun time. I think you'll enjoy it. And my review of this podcast, I'd say overall, too cold. I would say it's I would like it to be warmer than it than it presently is. It's the coldest podcast I've ever done, but super cool. Cooler than Freddie Jackson sipping a milkshake in a snowstorm.

[Grace]

That's what they say. But.

[Nora]

But comedy wise, me great Grace and I legitimately met once. We do not know each other at all. And look at this rapport. Everybody can't do this. Some people are not good at like keeping the conversation fun and flowing and I had a great time here.

[Grace]

Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you coming on. Have so much fun at the Grammys.

[Nora]

Thank you so much.

[Grace]

Awesome. And go check out his podcast. It's awesome.

[Nora]

It's good.

[Grace]

It's an awesome.

[Nora]

It's an awesome.

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[Grace]

My electrician I found on Angie.com to bury my pet hamster?

[Nora]

I was so moved by how carefully he buried my electrical wires and I knew I could trust him to bury.

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[Nora]

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