Hot Takes on Wicked, Timmy Chalamet, & JFK (Airport) with Joanne McNally

Summary

Disgraceful with Grace O'Malley

Host: Unwell (aka Grace O'Malley, with Nora O'Malley assisting)
Guest: Joanne McNally
Episode: Hot Takes on Wicked, Timmy Chalamet, & JFK (Airport)
Date: March 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and irreverent episode of "Disgraceful," Grace O’Malley (appearing as "Unwell") is joined by acclaimed Irish comedian Joanne McNally. They deliver a chaotic, hilarious, and highly self-aware conversation that ranges from early comedy failures and public scandal, to airport queuing and strong opinions about musicals and pop culture. The pair riff extensively on their backgrounds, professional misadventures, and the oddities of both Irish and American life, all interlaced with sarcasm, self-deprecation, and quick wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Starting in Comedy: Humble Beginnings and Bombs

• Joanne's Start on "Republic of Telly" – Discussing early TV appearances and impostor syndrome.
  • "I was very, very, very, very, very early on in my career. And I don’t think I was ready for it...I’m pretty sure I drove the show into the ground." (03:00, Joanne)
  • On women in writers’ rooms: "They wanted me to mark the mark. And then I was writing sketches, but…I needed help, you know?...It was all just a bit." (04:06, Joanne)
• First Comedy "Death" – Chaplins comedy club and the agony of bombing on stage.
  • "It was my first death. Like, comedic death." (04:47, Joanne)
  • On what bombing feels like: "There was still a bit of hope in the tits. And then that happened." (09:16, Joanne)
• Men vs. Women in Bombing:
  • "Women are maybe a little more… we can read a room in a different way...Whereas lads can go up and, like, die on their hole and then come off and be like, try and follow that, baby." (06:25, Joanne)

Name Confusion & The Perils of Google

• Grace vs. The Real Grace O’Malley (The Pirate Queen)
  • "She fucks up my Google search. But we're all very proud of her." (10:35, Host)
  • Joanne jokes about hiring an online “scrubbing” team: "Cancel her legacy completely. And so only you up here." (18:59, Joanne)

Scandal, Public Shame, & Fleeting Fame

• Justine Sacco, Viral Outrage, & Cancel Culture
  • Review of the infamous tweet and its fallout: "She did a tweet saying, 'I'm off to Africa. Hope I don't get AIDS. Hahaha. As if I'm white.'" (11:52, Joanne)
  • On the surreal world of viral fame: "If you suddenly have this massive profile and everyone knows who you are, how do you…go back to your normal life? Do you try and monetize the new fame? Yes, you probably do. Do you take a lot of drugs? Probably for the stress." (15:12, Joanne)
• Comedians Craving Scandal—Satirical Takes
  • "I wish I had a little bit more controversy. You’d love one little scandal." (15:57, Joanne)
  • "So you come back innocent in the end, but there's some suspicious accusations. But then it's all proved to be in the clears. You get a bit of coverage, but you're the saint at the end of the day." (16:06, Joanne)

Pop Culture Hot Takes

Timothée Chalamet, The Ballet, and Opera

• "Timothy didn’t win [the Oscar]...He put himself in so much shit right before. The ballet thing, the opera thing..." (21:35, Host & Joanne)
• On elite cultural pretensions: "Are we all just pretending [to like the opera]?...Nobody wants to look thick." (22:17, Joanne)

Musicals and “Wicked”

• Joanne’s brutally honest review: "I'm going to put it right there. I thought the musical was... [not as good]." (23:16, Joanne)
• "You wanted your cancellation. I think you just got it." (23:23, Host)
• The virtues of falling asleep in movies: Joanne on thinking "Wicked" was a 70-minute film because she “had a little wine nap.” (24:08-24:39)

Cinema Habits

• On solo movie-going: "It’s something to do that doesn’t involve massive amounts of socializing, but gets you out of the house...look at this independent woman." (25:48, Joanne)
• On the intimidating freedom of being alone as a teenager: "She had the confidence to kind of break off and do something on her own. I was like, wow, you’re so adult." (26:21, Joanne)

Notable Quote

"There was still a bit of hope in the tits."
—Joanne McNally (09:16)

Growing Up: Childhood Pranks, Wetting Yourself, and Siblings

• Both recount being class clowns—Joanne emphasizes her lack of mean-spiritedness and frequent (laughter-induced) incontinence.
  • "I used to wet myself every Friday in double with that...That’s how much I was laughing." (27:58, Joanne)
• On sibling relationships: Joanne reveals her brother’s privacy and avoidance of the limelight, contrasting social media habits within families. (31:00-32:08)

The Irish-American Experience

• Specialty Irish references (fire hydrants, school buses, etc.) and cultural differences spark playful confusion.
  • Joanne’s delight at American school buses and fire hydrants: "It's hard for you to understand because you’re here. But, like, New York is like the film set of my whole childhood." (50:44, Joanne)

Airports, Visas, and Queuing

• Exasperation at the tedium and irrationality of US visa processes:
  • "I queued for a couple of hours to join the queue...and then a couple more hours in the actual queue...If I get offered a hosting gig on SNL and my visas were late, I will never queue again." (42:53-43:28, Joanne)
• Jokes about smuggling drugs, navigating fame privileges, and airline woes.
  • "Is Bono…am I comparing myself to Bono? Yeah." (43:43, Joanne)

Writing and Creative Careers

• Joanne’s journey from magazine columnist ("Joe’s World" in Stellar) to stand-up, reflecting on the difference between writing styles.
  • "Writing long form is its own muscle...Now it's back to writing short form, so I need to kind of get back in the headspace." (38:33, Joanne)
• On performance muscles: the change between large venue acts, club gigs, and the atrophy of crowd work skills. (39:21)

The Irish Moment—and Its Passport Value

• "Do you know that the Irish passport is the most expensive passport in the black market?...It’s worth about 200K." (60:30, Joanne)
• Joanne’s favorite revenge story: ex-girlfriend removes a photo from a boyfriend’s passport, sabotaging his trip. (61:27)

Miscellaneous & Memorable Moments

• School Anecdotes:
  • "You know when you’re laughing so, so hard that you wet yourself? There’s nothing better than that." (28:47, Host & Joanne)
• Handling Inappropriate Fans:
  • On a man masturbating during her show: "It was quite the honor...I was like, which bit was it?...Anyway, then someone got a video...he looked bored. It wasn’t the compliment I thought." (46:58-48:37, Joanne)
• Discussion of Motherhood & Regret:
  • On her documentary "Baby Hater" and cultural expectations: "We’re sold this lie that women can have it all. That’s absolute horseshit. We can’t." (59:23-59:27, Joanne)
  • Postpartum and the reality of motherhood: "It’s really, really hard...You get one day a year where the kid makes you a half ass birthday card." (59:54-60:03, Host)

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Notable Quotes

• "There was still a bit of hope in the tits." (09:16, Joanne McNally)
• "I'd rather gargle silage than queue." (41:03, Joanne McNally)
• "If you suddenly have this massive profile and everyone knows who you are, how do you, like, go back to your normal life?" (15:12, Joanne McNally)
• "Are we all just pretending? ...It’s like the Emperor’s new clothes sometimes." (22:17, Joanne McNally)
• "We’re sold this lie that women can have it all. That’s absolute horseshit. We can’t." (59:23, Joanne McNally)
• "The Irish passport’s worth about 200K." (60:59, Joanne McNally)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 02:44-05:10 | Early comedy failures ("Republic of Telly", Chaplins) | | 11:01-13:40 | Public shaming & Justine Sacco story | | 15:57-16:38 | Wishing for a public scandal | | 21:35-23:16 | Oscar talk, Timothée Chalamet, ballet/arts "scandal" | | 23:02-24:39 | "Wicked": Musical vs. Movie review | | 25:48-26:21 | Going to movies solo and the confidence it takes | | 27:05-28:47 | School humor, wetting yourself, friendship | | 31:00-32:08 | Sibling privacy, family on social media | | 42:51-43:28 | American visas and airport queuing | | 46:58-48:37 | Audience member masturbating at Joanne’s show | | 50:33-53:22 | New York school buses, fire hydrants, Irish compare | | 55:00-56:40 | Early radio segments and creative media path | | 56:40-59:44 | Documentary "Baby Hater", motherhood conversation | | 60:30-61:07 | Irish passport value on black market, revenge story |

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Recurring Themes & Running Jokes

• Self-deprecation ("I drove the show into the ground.")
• Gendered takes on comedy and social skills
• Wistful nostalgia vs. modern fame’s absurdity
• Satirical ambitions for “scandal” and public penance
• Insider-outsider dynamic between Irish/US culture
• The realities and contradictions of fame, motherhood & career

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Closing/Plugs

• Joanne’s Tour: Pino File (not “pedophile” — it's a wine pun, she clarifies) tours in the US starting October.
• Joanne’s Podcast: "My Therapist Ghosted Me" — briefly mentioned, worth seeking for more of her sharp insights and banter.

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For Listeners:

This episode is packed with quick wit, confession, and comedic chemistry. From raw stories about bombing on stage to satirical fantasies about viral fame, Joanne and Grace cover ground that's both hilariously relatable and sharply self-aware. Their playful cultural exchanges and candor about the messiness of modern life offer welcome laughs and insightful social commentary.

Transcript

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[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's. It's disgraceful. It's disgraceful. I got a new song for the show. I don't know why I did that. Thanks so much for coming on, guys. Thanks for watching the show. I really appreciate it. We had Demi. Demi, the demise of the pod. Had no idea about the things that you guys are all upset about. Sorry about that. Anyways, great episode. Check that out. It's doing numbers. First one numbers for a while. But this episode's super exciting. We've got Joanne McNally. Great crack.

[Joanne McNally]

Great.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Great crack. Irish broad to Irish broad. Having a blast on this episode. But you know where else you could be having a blast is at one of my shows. So this weekend I'll be in Las Vegas, Nevada, March 27th to the 28th. Week after that, I dropped a Boston show. Yep, that's right. I'm coming back, baby. Home where I want it. Right back where. I don't know why I'm talking like that. April 8th. April 8th is the Boston show. Then I'm doing the Nashville Comedy Festival April 17th to the 18th and then from there driving on down to Huntsville, Alabama. Who's going to drive? I don't know. Me and my sister both don't have licenses right now. But that is going to be April 19th and then after that going to Oklahoma City, April 23rd to the 25th and then Louisville, Kentucky, April 30th to May 2nd and then right after that, right on back to Oklahoma in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And that is May 15th to the 16th. And I may or may not have A couple more bossy shows coming up, so stay tuned and enjoy the show.

[Joanne McNally]

Joanne McNaughty. And I think I am. Disgraceful.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm gonna start off with some rapid fire questions. Okay. And you tell me what comes to your mind when I say these words.

[Joanne McNally]

Okay.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Also, welcome to the show.

[Joanne McNally]

Thank you.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I skipped right over that part.

[Joanne McNally]

Straight in. Gronk.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You came all the way over.

[Joanne McNally]

All right.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

First word is Republic of Teli.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I did that. My TV show.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yes.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, ding, ding, ding. Slightly embarrassing. Okay. For me, not the show.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay. And why is that?

[Joanne McNally]

Because I was very, very, very, very, very early on in my career.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

And I don't think I was ready for it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

And I'm pretty sure I drove the show into the ground.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, you can't put that all on you.

[Joanne McNally]

And I do. So I've taken all the credit for it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Well, how else are you gonna start?

[Joanne McNally]

I really put myself in the story, in the failure of the show. I'm like, I'll make that about me. I think I'd done about seven gigs when I got that show. It was a sketch show. And I. They. The female, the woman had left. They needed another woman, and so they

[Host (Likely Nora)]

did a substitute action. Yeah, they're like, I love when shows do that. Like, no one's gonna notice.

[Joanne McNally]

Token out. Token in. Token out. Token in. On fairness, Jennifer McGuire, who I. Who I replaced, she was brilliant, but it was. They wanted me to do the female. They're writing female sketches and kind of represent the female voice. And if I'm honest, and I just don't think they really nurtured that very well. And I don't think I did a particularly good job, but I'm not. I'm blaming everyone involved, not just myself. And then the show was canceled.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm really curious on how they missed the mark of being a woman.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, they wanted me to mark. To mark the mark. And then I was writing sketches, but, like, I was so new, like, I needed help, you know? And anyway, it just was a bit. It was all just a bit. But listen, it got me on the. It was the first TV job I had. It got me on the road and every.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Everyone needs a stepping stone.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, exactly. And it's not cool to go back and scorch every job you had. Fuck those pricks.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, No, I just, like, I don't want to ever get booked again. I actually hate everybody in the industry.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, how dare they? Yeah. So that when you said Republic Italia, I was confused because I Thought it was something to do with an American TV show, but, yeah, that was. I was on that one.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

We do good research over here.

[Joanne McNally]

You do? I'm absolutely thrilled.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Now, when I say chaplains, what comes to mind?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, my gosh.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. We did our research.

[Joanne McNally]

Chaplains. Chaplains was. Well, I don't know what you have, but it was my first death.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Pardon?

[Joanne McNally]

It was my first death. Like, comedic death. Not really.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, bombing.

[Joanne McNally]

Bombing, bombing. We call it dying.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You call it dying?

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's way better. We call it dying because you wish you had a bomb when you don't do well on stage.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I know. You wish you could die.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. No death. Yeah. So that was your first death?

[Joanne McNally]

My first deaths. Now, I've done. I've. There was a. But I was. It was funny because I'd only just. I'd only just started, and I was very new, and I was going in with a comic at the time who was more established than me. Like, he was going longer and so. And I was. I had that beautiful delusion you have when you start comedy that you. You kind of think you're better than you are, which you need.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You had that.

[Joanne McNally]

I must have, because when I died, when I bombed in Chaplins, I came on stage and my boyfriend at the time was like, oh, God, it's not

[Host (Likely Nora)]

good when you get off stage and even the person who loves you so much is like. He's like, oh, God.

[Joanne McNally]

Are you. Are you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm grand.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Why? Oh, no. And you didn't even think you did anything wrong.

[Joanne McNally]

I was like, it was quiet, but it's a small. I think it's only a 50 seater. And I was like, oh, did I. Did I die there? And he was like, oh, yeah. Oh, I have to be told I died.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'd rather that. I'd rather that than go up and crush and then come back. And everyone's like, that was awesome. And then. And I'm like, it was.

[Joanne McNally]

You learn my brain's bad. You know, I remember there was. There was a guy I gigged with in Ireland years ago, and I think men now. I'm not to go into the. I'm not going. I'm not to gender it. I'm about to gender it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Let's do it.

[Joanne McNally]

Let's do it. Let's go straight in.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Let's get it.

[Joanne McNally]

I think women are maybe a little more. We can read a room in a different way. So when a woman. Although I've just said that I didn't read the room but park that. Usually we read the room quite well.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Because our communication skills are.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Well, we have larger vibe.

[Joanne McNally]

We have some.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. So we have them.

[Joanne McNally]

We have them. Whereas lads can go up and, like, die on their hole and then come

[Host (Likely Nora)]

off and be like, walk off, jacking off.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. They're like, try and follow that, baby. You're like, yeah. You're like, they're crying outside. It's like one guy, he came off and we were like, how did it go? And I wasn't actually in the room. I've, I've, I've. I've. I've heard the story so many times. I've now put myself, like a fake memory that I was there.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I do that so often.

[Joanne McNally]

I wasn't there.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I was. I. But I picture it. So I, like, just put myself there. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

No, I wasn't there. And he came off. He spoke to 20, he did 45. Always rude. You know yourself when you're standing in the wings waiting to go on. And they. He. He came off. He died on his hole. Right. A glorious death. One he should be proud of, really. And he came off. How do you think that went? And when someone goes, how do you think that went? And he went, it's brilliant. He goes, there was a bit of booing in the middle. A bit of booing. A bit of booing. There should never be any boo. There should never be any booing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Just a sprinkle of boos. Just a couple of boos here and there. That means you're onto something.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. There's just nothing to do with me. They just love a boo. And they did a bit of booing in the middle. Nothing. They just got it out of their system.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. I felt like they were hyping me

[Joanne McNally]

up in a negative way. Boo.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Boo, Boo. Oh, my God. It's such a fantastic thing for, like, the way a man thinks. They'll just flip the worst experience into, like.

[Joanne McNally]

It's flipping fantastic.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

They were. They were hyping me up. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. One of them tried to stab me. But I'm sure, you know, some sort of Tourette's that he has. It's nothing to do with me. Yeah, I know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Blame it on Tourettes, too.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's what it was.

[Joanne McNally]

A lot. A lot of Tourette's in tonight.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's a weird tick to say, get off stage. It's a weird tick. I don't know. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

He probably shouldn't be at these kind of events if that's what he's going to say.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. You Know I don't want to be ableist. But funny.

[Joanne McNally]

Hilarious. Yeah. And he just skipped off into the night delighted with himself. Like I would have had to have been put in asylum for a week.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. 100. I probably. Like. Yeah. I would take some. I would take some time off if

[Joanne McNally]

I noticed it happening. Which I kind of wonder about myself. No. Because I do now. I would be fully aware.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So this was. Was this at chaplain's?

[Joanne McNally]

No, my. My death was at chaplains. That was a chapter somewhere else.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And so what. What. How.

[Joanne McNally]

How.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

How far in were you when you. When you had your death?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, I wouldn't say I was even a year. I'd say I was like.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh that's. You gotta get that over with. You're good.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I was gig. Like it was really early doors. But I'd had no. Hold on. Let me think. I was. No, it was there. It was. It was early doors. But I'd. I'd had a kind of. I'd come out.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

You know. I've come out strong.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. You just had. You had a. A pep of your pep.

[Joanne McNally]

I had a pep. My pet.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You hadn't been knocked down. There was still a twinkle in your eye. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

There was still a bit of hope in the tits. And then that happened. But I was like. It was still. I just. You know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I put it behind that already. I really like that a lot. Yeah. I would wear that as a T shirt for breast cancer awareness month.

[Joanne McNally]

She got a glint in her eye and with a hope in her tits. Yeah. When the tits were high and full of hope. Now 42 now they're kind of slowly sagging.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm wearing a strapless. Right. The reality I should not be.

[Joanne McNally]

That's so funny. Hoping the tits. Write that down. Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I didn't. I just didn't know if that was an already. So you just made that up right now, right here.

[Joanne McNally]

Just coined up.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Wow. You're good. You're good.

[Joanne McNally]

The mean girls you remember. Like stop trying to make fetch happen. Like I'm trying to bring up. I'm trying to create new languages.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Open the tits. It's happening.

[Joanne McNally]

Are you Boston?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I am, yeah. It's brutal.

[Joanne McNally]

It's so cool.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh thanks. Some will say you is very cool.

[Joanne McNally]

Do you know. But the Boston. But the Boston accents of the Irish. There's a lot of Irish in Boston.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

See this. There was two things I didn't want to bring up. The fact that I'm any part Irish and the fact that I think I want to catch you an Irish accent. I, I. And I was gonna say if I do either of those things, you could dump both your coffee and my coffee on my wet head.

[Joanne McNally]

But your name is o'.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Malley.

[Joanne McNally]

Grace o'.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Malley.

[Joanne McNally]

Like the pirouette queen?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yes, like the pirate queen. She fucks up my Google search. But we're all very proud of her.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I turn into Trump when I start talking about it. We love her.

[Joanne McNally]

That's really annoying. Yeah, because she's going to be very high up in the algorithm.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's hard to beat an actual legend.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Does she have an Instagram account? Get her blocked.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's the Google search, dude. Like, it's. When you look it up, it's like 15 pictures of her and like something. Tickets. What? One ticket?

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to do that thing. Do you remember your one? Was it Jessica Sacco? Remember? Do you remember this story? John Ronson did a book about people who've been publicly shamed. That was. The book was called Publicly Shamed.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, that's good.

[Joanne McNally]

And I think the girl was called Jessica Sacco. Do you remember the girl who. Sorry, I've completely.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No, no, no, I'm locked in.

[Joanne McNally]

She was an American and she was going on a flight to Africa and she was flying off from an American state. I don't know where she was coming from. And she did a tweet. It was in very bad taste.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And she.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh yeah, of course. She's like, she went to it. I'm only repeating said tweet.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, it's that bad.

[Joanne McNally]

This is not my. Anyway, she was like, I'm off. Now, bearing in mind she'd like 12 followers, like she did. She'd no public profile. She was a private person. Like she was.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, I think I do remember this. Yes. And when she got off the plane, she was like, fuck.

[Joanne McNally]

She got off. She did a tweet saying, I'm off to Africa. Hope I don't get aids. Hahaha. As if I'm white.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's what that was. Yes, yes, yes.

[Joanne McNally]

Took off.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yes.

[Joanne McNally]

I'd say she was sitting back, sipping on a gin and tonic on a flight to Africa.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You got 1412 to 14 hours of you just getting canceled without you even knowing.

[Joanne McNally]

Not a clue. Just oblivious in the sky, eating her chicken. Oh my God, do you know what I mean? And her free martini.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And she's like, oh no, no, my friends are gonna giggle at that one.

[Joanne McNally]

I know, yeah, hopefully I'll get a retweet. Do you Know what I mean? Maybe a. Like and someone. How it got. Someone who followed her, knew someone at Buzzfeed, I don't know. Anyway, it got set up, put onto Buzzfeed and it went fully viral. And when she got off the plane, there was a camera crew waiting for her. She'd been fired.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm surprised she didn't get a TV show that's used. Yeah, that's usually how it works.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, that's true, actually.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

In this country, we really love to turn fucking idiots into stars.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, are you thinking of your one who's like, you're one.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I hope she's doing well. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

That. To me, that's the equivalent of.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's literally. Exactly.

[Joanne McNally]

She didn't do a racist tweet, but this.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No, she was just. She just did a sex act.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't they give her a chat show?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Was that.

[Joanne McNally]

They gave her a chat.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, I was on it. Shut up.

[Joanne McNally]

Were you? Sorry. I'm not saying it's bad. I was like, shocked at the. At the.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I could.

[Joanne McNally]

The escalation of spitting into a mic and then you're sitting there like Jimmy Fallon. It's kind of. It's a wild journey.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

The end of her journey is she started one of those NFT coin things.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, no.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't even know what that means.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, it's. Or what's it called? It's like. Like a bitcoin, but a hawk to a coin.

[Joanne McNally]

And is she selling them now?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No, she got big to do for that one.

[Joanne McNally]

But was she selling them?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, she was selling them.

[Joanne McNally]

That's a grift. That's a pyramid scheme, isn't it?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

When I went on the show, I will say everyone in her crew.

[Joanne McNally]

How many did you buy?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I bought. I mean, here comes. I'm still trying to recover. My husband left me. Almost said wife. Did you catch that, Nora? Who knows the taking My kids.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I got them on the weekends. It's not good. No. But when I did do that poor girl show, there was a lot of people. No, I don't want to say poor girl. She's still out there. But. But everyone around had, like, a sinister vibe, like. And there was, like, eight people there. That's a lot of people to have on your team. Just always there.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So I think she's fully getting taken advantage.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And I just want to. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I feel bad for her. I think you have that massive moment of reality and you've no experience in online, like, visibility at all and you're not in the business, per se.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

But suddenly you're a big cash coin. There's money to be made and they're trying to figure out how to make it for you and off you. And where's the longevity? I don't know. Like, it's. It's. What a wild experience. Do you remember the trans woman who went. Who went viral for demure. Very demure.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, they're back in the limelight now, saying that they're in recovery from.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, I saw. I feel so bad about that. It's like everything happened all at once and they were like. Yeah, well, I was already having a hard time with substances and that just fucking.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, spiraled. Because if you suddenly have this massive profile and everyone knows who you are, how do you, like, go back to your normal life? Do you try and monetize the new fame? Yes, you probably do. Do you take a lot of drugs? Probably for the stress. And now they've completely relapsed and they're kind of back down. I have to build my life back up again.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's an endless loop cycle. And I will say, if I had no morality, I'd be such a good producer of a. If I just found a young person of age, of course. And then I told them everything to say online and was able to capitalize on. I think I'd be pretty good puppeteer. Yes, I'd be a great puppeteer.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Am I gonna do that for my own self? No. I don't want to say those crazy things.

[Joanne McNally]

I wish I had a little bit more controversy. You'd love one little scandal.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, dude, I would. I would. Fucking wine.

[Joanne McNally]

A miscarriage of justice.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

So you come back innocent in the end, but there's some suspicious. Some suspicious accusations. But then it's all proved to be in the clears. You get a bit of coverage, but you're the saint at the end of the day.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, I think I'll take a judge. I mean a drug charge.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, I was thinking more like an affair.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yes, an affair. Yeah. I just want a mug shot. You don't get a mug shot for an affair.

[Joanne McNally]

Or maybe there's someone. There's a typo on the Epstein files and it looks like I was there, but then it's all cleared up that I wasn't. That it was a typo. Wouldn't that be great? That's a miscarriage of justice.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's a. That's a real thing. Whitney Cummings. Do you know Whitney Cummings?

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, of course. Was she on the Was she in the bottom list?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What? Because he went to her show, which is like the craziest loophole of all time. Yeah, hilarious. I don't know if she's talked about that.

[Joanne McNally]

We'll.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

We'll revisit this in the edit with the ladies. But there's like, there's literally nothing that she did. He just went to her show and, like, sent a couple of her videos, like, internally. And she was just like, that's fucking nuts.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, my God.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Crazy guy was talking about me.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That whole thing is insane by default. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You guys have anyone involved in this?

[Joanne McNally]

Well, no. Well, Ireland. No, but I live in London, so obviously there was. Prince Andrew is heavily his name.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

He'll die soon. Right, well, go kill him.

[Joanne McNally]

Who knows?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

We know how they work.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I don't know.

[Joanne McNally]

I stay out of the royal business.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I mean, I'd stay out of the business.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

But he was, he's now called. He was just called. I think now he's just called Andrew. And I think they've actually. I think they've actually demoted him again. It's like that's like they took his prince off.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Like somebody calls you, like, your nickname's like, Gianni and they're like, no, you up, you John.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the charm has been taken out of here. Yeah, I know. But at one stage I was like, is my own mother's name going to turn up on those files? Everyone seemed to be on them.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. I actually did type in my dad's name just to see if it would come up. Just. He was a plumber, but I just an electrician. Don't you forget. He got zippity zapped. But I did want to see if his name came up so I could send it to my sister and be like some version of someone else named. Dad's name came up.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, my mother's a retired nurse and I wouldn't put it past her because she just, she loves a bit of

[Host (Likely Nora)]

heat, you know your mom.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, she loves a weekend away. I'm like, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

How long does she get?

[Joanne McNally]

The golf girls, they all just head off to the island. Unknown, unknown. Ignorant of what was happening. I know. Listen, you don't fucking know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You don't. You know, it'd be your own blood.

[Joanne McNally]

I sent you off. What I was going to say was this comes back to Justine Sacco.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, fuck.

[Joanne McNally]

So I've done the loop back. She. When she got viciously canceled and her whole life was completely destroyed. She hired a team to hide her name on the Internet. Oh, yeah. So what you could do is hire someone to hide the other Grace. Rip her off the Internet.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's brilliant.

[Joanne McNally]

Cancel her legacy completely. And so only you up here.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's really good. Except it's really fucked up.

[Joanne McNally]

Mm.

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[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, no, my coffee. Bronnie here. New brawny 3 ply is now more absorbent. Wow.

[Joanne McNally]

Got a clean shirt.

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[Joanne McNally]

Ronnie, summon the strongest.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Let's go to this Tropical Popical.

[Joanne McNally]

Tropical Popical. Oh, Tropical Popical. Oh, I'm thrilled at these references. Don't know where this come from. Tropical Popical is my local nail bar. She's actually owned by one of my best friends, Andrea Horton. And Saoirse Ronan was getting her nails done in there when she got the call to say she was up for an Oscar. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. So then I does then.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Then it's like a lucky feeling. You're like, go in there.

[Joanne McNally]

So one of my mates. So Andrea, who owns us, she was like, you're not gonna. But you know, when something kind of escalates, the next thing, Saoirse was on with Ellen DeGeneres talking about Andrea's nail bar. Because she was like, I know. I was in Tropical Pop. And Andrea's like, you know, she's like

[Host (Likely Nora)]

screaming, call out of all time.

[Joanne McNally]

I know. It is. It was huge.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And so did it blow up. Like, her business, she's.

[Joanne McNally]

She's. She heard her business model is less is more. So I was like, you should open other stores. Other. Except for this. She goes, no, no, I'm happy with my life. I'm happy with my loss. I'm not massively greedy. I have a nice work life balance. This is all I want. She's like, I don't want to be working 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's perfect. That's a great mindset. Yeah. I could ever get there. Yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

She's like, no, no. I've worked hard. I have a lovely life. I have a lovely lifestyle life. Work, balance, and that's all I want.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Did you watch the Oscars?

[Joanne McNally]

I watch clips I don't want. I never watch the whole thing. Does anyone watch the whole thing? I don't know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I do. Do you? I do. I. That's like the half. The reason I have, like, certain apps.

[Joanne McNally]

What?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

To watch award shows. I love award shows.

[Joanne McNally]

Would you watch them live as they're going?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

There's a new thing where you could bet. Oh, it's called Kelsey. And you can bet on who you think is gonna win.

[Joanne McNally]

Timothy didn't win.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

He didn't. I didn't think he would because he put himself in so much shit right before.

[Joanne McNally]

I know. The ballet thing, the opera thing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You just can't go against the arts when you're someone that comes from the arts.

[Joanne McNally]

Apparently his mother and his granny are dancers.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

People are sitting there being like, how dare you make fun of the ballet. Have you ever been.

[Joanne McNally]

No, I know. Yeah. They're like, protect the ballerinas.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's like, as someone who comes from just, like, regular. I don't give a shit what Timothy has to say about the ballet.

[Joanne McNally]

Ballet is like. I mean, no ballet, whatever about ballet. But the opera. Now, I would. That's. Sometimes you're at shows. You're like, I'm just gonna pretend like everyone else. Are we all just pretending? We get this.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I feel like it's a big pretend.

[Joanne McNally]

Are we pretend we're all kind of in on it and no one wants to. It's like the emperor's new clothes sometimes. Sometimes. Because I love theater. I love going to theater. Sometimes I gone to plays and I'm like, no one's enjoying. This isn't enjoyable. We just have to. We're pretending. Sure. This is. We're all in on the grift. We're all in on this. And then we. Because we're being told it's culturally important and we don't want to look thick.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

So we're like, oh, God, I love that bit when that thing happened. But no one actually gives a fuck.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You just make it up.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. It's such a fucking run around. I have noticed that I don't really love musicals, Grace.

[Joanne McNally]

I hear where you're coming from. I think they're always half an hour too long. There's always half an hour. You're like, come on, break it up a tiny bit.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Break it up a tiny bit. Come on.

[Joanne McNally]

We don't need all that background. I went to see Wicked. I'm going to say, maybe this will be my scandal Maybe this will be my Timothy opera.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Scandal isn't as good both to play and the movie.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm going to say it. I'm going to put it right there. I thought the musical was.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You wanted your cancellation. I think you just got it.

[Joanne McNally]

Thank you. Type that up. Tweet that, Ross. Tweet it out now. Go live.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Suck all the hope out of your tits. Dude, it's a bunch of feet of kids going absolutely nothing.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I love the film.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

But I actually, because I, I, I, I, I have a podcast and they were asking me. I've. I'm bad with time. And I was saying that because I they. The cinema, my local cinema down the road from where I live, it's one of these gorgeous little indie cinemas, but they serve drink. Do they serve drink in the cinemas here?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, some of them, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Okay, so in Ireland, there's. No, that's not.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So is this place like a sneaky like.

[Joanne McNally]

No, they said there's a bar.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, it is, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

It was a bar on it. So I had a couple of drinks, as is my right, of course. And I came out and I was, I was relaying the Wicked to on my podcast and I was saying.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I thought you were saying you like went to the, the play the movie by yourself and then you came out and you're just telling everyone in the lobby what the plot of the movie. No, it for everybody.

[Joanne McNally]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because I'd been to, been to the musical and like I say, just really struggled, really struggle. I was like, this is Dragon.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yes.

[Joanne McNally]

Went to the cinema. Really enjoyed the film. Popped out next day on the podcast, I was saying to Vogue, who I did the podcast with. I was like. And it's, I said, great story. I said, it's real quick. Hour and 10 minutes, like in and out. And Joe, my producer, was like, what are you talking about? It's two and a half hours long. So I obviously fell asleep at some point and had a little wine nap for myself and woke up at the good bit. And then was. Because sometimes I think cinema now it becomes a hostage situation. Some films are so long. I, I'm taking breaks. I'm doing laps of the lobby and all.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I like a long movie.

[Joanne McNally]

Do you?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I do. I really do. I like when I found out that Wolf at Wall street is three hours long, I was like, that's my, that's my kind of movie.

[Joanne McNally]

Would you go to the cinema to see it?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yes. And you have to come on.

[Joanne McNally]

I know, I know. I have to say, I love cinema.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I look out on my own.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

This is a big thing over here because nobody's going to movies over here. Yeah, we got it. You got to go see the movies.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's the way they're supposed to be seen.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

We are. We're all on Bezos train being like, you know what, I'd rather just watch this on my phone and have them repeat a couple things over and over.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I have. I love going in. I'll sneak in on my own. It's something to do that doesn't involve massive amounts of socializing, but it gets you out of the house. I live on my own, so I'm like. And there's a. My.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I love going to the movies by myself.

[Joanne McNally]

So do I.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's great.

[Joanne McNally]

I remember when I was younger, there was a friend of mine, like we were, we were in our teen, we were teens and she went to the cinema on her own and I was like, teenager.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's balls, isn't it? That is pretty fucking. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I was so impressed. When I say impressed, I was confused and then impressed.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'd be, I'd be, I'd be more impressed than anything because I'd just be like, I don't have the balls to do that.

[Joanne McNally]

Exactly.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It was a big deal. When I moved here to the movies by myself, I was like, look at me go.

[Joanne McNally]

I know, yeah, yeah, I know. You're like, look at this independent woman. It's like, get it, just get her normal. Yeah, but when you're younger, like being on your own. Cuz when you're younger, you're so involved in your tribe of friends that you're like, you're like a chain gang. You go everywhere together. And that she had the confidence to kind of break off and do something on her own. I was like, wow, you're so adult.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That is like really adult. I would just be like, you guys want to see this movie? You don't?

[Joanne McNally]

All right, I guess I'll never see it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Sorry. Oh, we're going to go to the woods in Drake per.

[Joanne McNally]

Okay.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, yeah, that sounds better, honestly.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, Just get pissed and finger each other instead. And I'll never see Titanic. Just never get in. But no. Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Wait, so what were you like as a kid?

[Joanne McNally]

I was a bit of a clown, I would say.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I know comedians.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You ever get in trouble for that?

[Joanne McNally]

It was never anything, never anything mad. Like I was never ill willed. Like I was never mean spirited as a kid, but I was easily distractible. You know, the usual. Doesn't apply herself. Had to sit in my own at the top of the class a lot of the time. Cause I was distracting other people like that. That was the vibe. Because I know some comedians, they were very kind of serious as a child.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

They say most of them are autistic.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, there's a lot of that. Yeah, there's a lot of that.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

They would keep themselves on purpose.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There'd be a lot of that. But I was. No, I was in the thick of it. Yeah, I was in the thick of it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I was. I was about the same thing. And like always on the report cards, like, she needs to stop talking. You just. Didn't you talk to her to tell her to stop talking?

[Joanne McNally]

Just stop talking. I used to. I used to. And it was glorious. I used to wet myself every Friday in double with that.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's awesome.

[Joanne McNally]

Cuz that's how much I was laughing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's so awesome.

[Joanne McNally]

And my pelvic floor is a little weak.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, no, I'd say so. I thought. I thought you meant, like on command. Like, hey, guys, it's Friday.

[Joanne McNally]

My little party trick.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I get to go home. I got to go change my pants. Suckers.

[Joanne McNally]

Imagine your class, like, not again. She thinks we love it. We can't.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

The janitor's, like, every time.

[Joanne McNally]

He was encouraging her. Girls, girls, look at this.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You can do it too. We can all go home. No, usually you just have to grab the hand me downs. Do you remember?

[Joanne McNally]

But have you ever. You know when you're laughing so, so hard that you wet yourself?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. There's nothing better than that.

[Joanne McNally]

There's nothing better than that.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, my God, stop. Seriously, stop. And then you're like, it's coming.

[Joanne McNally]

It's coming like that. And then. And it was a double class. And so then after. I have to. I remember once going into the locker room and I. They. All the girls were like, no. Because I kept trying to borrow jumpers to wrap around my waist because wetting myself was a real problem.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You weren't going home and changing. You were just like, I was carrying on by day. Nice, nice. Oh, you can't. That'll give you an itch.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm in school. You're not allowed. Just go home.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Well, yeah, yeah. You can't. Hey, I gotta go home.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm 17. Like, if you've wet yourself, Juwan, that's on you. You can't get home. You're not a baby. But also, why didn't someone in there change me you know, there should be a changing room.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Well, there should be some hand me downs. At least look through something.

[Joanne McNally]

Pull me ups. Come on.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

But if, you know every Friday on the dot, you're gonna be pissing your drawers, you should bring your own.

[Joanne McNally]

Your draws. Going to German with an overnight bag because I know I'm gonna wrap myself and I'm going to change myself.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What's in your locker? Oh, five pairs of pants, just in case I wears.

[Joanne McNally]

I know I should have had a catheter put in.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah, that would have been sweet.

[Joanne McNally]

That they use at festivals. But I used to sit with a girl called Juan Healy, who was now a very important barrister, I believe, in Ireland now. What is this, a barrister?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yes.

[Joanne McNally]

So what's a. Like a lawyer? We were just a meeting of little comedy minds. As in like. Not that we were like great comedy minds, but we just made each other laugh so much. You know when you have that person.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And it was like, it was. It was. It was gone. I was out. The urine was on the ground.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Especially when you're on the same page.

[Joanne McNally]

Ah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Like me and my sister, we're like, we're on the same wave. It's like, it's. It cracks me up.

[Joanne McNally]

So when you meet someone like that, it's great.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's so great. Do you have siblings?

[Joanne McNally]

I have one boy there, Connor.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Do you guys with each other?

[Joanne McNally]

What does that mean?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Like, you guys get along?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, yeah, we get on.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Sorry. Yeah, that's good.

[Joanne McNally]

To clarify, I was like, I don't. Why are you hurt?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You fucking your brother?

[Joanne McNally]

It's none of your business.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's a terrible stereotype.

[Joanne McNally]

No, no, no, no. We do, we do. We got on really well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Word. So how old is he?

[Joanne McNally]

So he is five years older than me.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

But he's quite a private. He's quite a private person. He's like. He's an accountant, so we're quite different.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Could we put.

[Joanne McNally]

I love him dearly.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Can we put all of his social media right here? He's just a private guy.

[Joanne McNally]

He loved that. Yeah, he'd love it. I remember when I started, when I started kind of doing this and I had him tagged on some things so people would try and try and add him and he used to get really annoyed. I was like, I can't. Because I can't. I'm not doing it. It's not my fault. So he doesn't. He doesn't enjoy that side of it at all now.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, so he's definitely a Private account.

[Joanne McNally]

Very. He's a very private person. A private account.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's it. That's. My mom started that way. She's like, I don't want anyone following me. And now she went from a private profile to a public one. She's like, tag me in that.

[Joanne McNally]

She's doing collabs and everything.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I can make her a star if she just listens.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, my mom has a fake account, so we. When you say she. So she fucks with Insta. If that's. If I'm using the term correctly.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, she fucks with Insta.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm like, a child is a child.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

She fucks with Insta.

[Joanne McNally]

She fucks with it. She fucks with it, but secretly.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's fun. That's fun when you say that.

[Joanne McNally]

She with it, but secretly with it. So she. She. We. We don't just talk about. We don't talk about it, but I know she keeps a close eye on my movements.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh.

[Joanne McNally]

Via her fake Instagram account. That I do not know that we.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, it's a mutual. Gotcha.

[Joanne McNally]

Silent non. Spoken of.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Why do you think that is?

[Joanne McNally]

Because it started with her wanting to know where I was all the time because I wouldn't be massive on contact.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm not huge on the whole.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I just think my mom follows my location. I don't love that. I'm an adult that.

[Joanne McNally]

I wouldn't mind that, actually.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Unless, I mean, you can switch it off and you go into the brothels, you know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah, no, of course.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Strip clubs. My mom knows strip club Saturdays.

[Joanne McNally]

Off she goes off price, guys.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, I gotta get my. I gotta get my ladies.

[Joanne McNally]

You gotta get your kicks. But I remember once I was on. I was in the house. I was in her house and I tweeted something and her phone beeped. And then she just looked at me like. And I was like, oh, she's got alerts. Oh, wow, she's got alerts.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, she's, like, fully locked in.

[Joanne McNally]

She's got alerts. But, like, as she says, because one time I was like, I. I went. I wasn't online for a while, and she turned up at my house to see was I dead. And I was like, mom, this has to stop. And she went, I will never apologize for loving my children.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's beautiful.

[Joanne McNally]

So that's. That's. That's the situation. So I watched.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's honestly really sweet. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

It's kind of like, even though she

[Host (Likely Nora)]

said it like, she's gonna kill you.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I will. Never apologize for loving you.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, she's slowly holding my face underwater in the bath.

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[Host (Likely Nora)]

Let me ask you about this Stellar magazine.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, yeah, I used to write for them.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, shit.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. So I used to have a column called Joe's World. So when I. So it was a weird way. So I actually used to be. I was a pull.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Carrie.

[Joanne McNally]

Roger, basically.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. Well, yeah, that's. That's.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, without the. Without the megalomania, actually. No, with the megalomania. You know, the way. So. Carrie. So I was, like, raised on Sex and City, so I'm in my 40s now.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I was watching it when I shouldn't have. Like, I was, like, watching it with my mom. What? Yeah. No, it's pretty. I don't know.

[Joanne McNally]

That's hilarious.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I just. I remember sneaking it.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

It's such good tv. And I watch it. It revolutionized, well, I think the female experience, basically, where in my world, suddenly we were like, kids. Not kids. Sorry. That's terrible. Like, young women, we're like, oh, let's buy rabbits. You know, these vibrators and all like. Yeah, Pleasure had never really been discussed on TV like that, like, in the mainstream tv. And we were like, who are you? And it's all that like, I'm Samantha and you're so Carrie and all that. And no one wants to be Charlotte. Actually, no.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No.

[Joanne McNally]

Wants to be Miranda. God love her. Yeah, no one wants to be Miranda.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

She was always high, strong. Well, it turns out she was. She was hiding a big secret.

[Joanne McNally]

She was hiding a big ass secret. So I was a publicist before I was a comedian.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

So I worked.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So you know how to fix this. That's why you haven't had any controversy.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I know. I'm. I know I'm a crisis. Pr.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. Pr.

[Joanne McNally]

How did you say pr?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Well, I say pr.

[Joanne McNally]

Pr. Which sounds Irish, actually. Because when I. Cuz I live in London.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

PR they are looking at me like I've. Like when I first moved to London, even getting butter was like a huge drama. I was like, butter. They'd be like, you. And there was all sorts coming out at the table. I was like, oh.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So yeah, you guys emphasize the R or we drop ours. Ah, in Boston.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Play pack.

[Joanne McNally]

I love it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And then I'm not going to do the Irish accent because I promised myself I wouldn't.

[Joanne McNally]

One of my favorite films is what I'm. Is something. I cannot remember the name of the two lads. My memory is going, maybe I'm Perryman.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, Goodman Hunting.

[Joanne McNally]

It's one of my favorite films.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I mean, dude, you can't. You can't go wrong.

[Joanne McNally]

It's so good.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Those fellas, you know those fellas shared a bank account in real life. Those two, those two. Those two guys in the movie, right? Ben Affleck, Matt Damon.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

They were best friends growing up.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Started together, shared a bank account and up until they separated. Now they're back together with their own production company. It's a beautiful story.

[Joanne McNally]

Did they fall out? Also, why is JLo, Spoxy and Ben Affleck. What's going on?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

She is again.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm pretty sure I saw a photo of them scoring. Which is Irish first. No, kissing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Kissing.

[Joanne McNally]

What's called kissing?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You saw a picture? Snogging, whatever. Is that making out?

[Joanne McNally]

Making out.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay, Making out.

[Joanne McNally]

There was a photo of them making out?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

I was like, again, Even I can't bear this toxic roller coaster of love. Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I really can't.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm like, come on, let it go.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's over.

[Joanne McNally]

It's not working.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And Matt doesn't like her.

[Joanne McNally]

I'd heard that.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So that's important.

[Joanne McNally]

Very hard when your friends are like your partner. Anyway, so that's. I used to Write. Sorry. That's how that started.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh. So, yeah. Okay. So. And what would you. What did you write about?

[Joanne McNally]

It was called Joe's World, and I would just write about whatever was going on.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you still write?

[Joanne McNally]

Yes, but obviously now it's more stand up, so you kind of lose the. Because I think writing long form is its own muscle.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah. 100.

[Joanne McNally]

And now it's back to writing short form. So I'd. I'd have to. There's a book. I have a book like, that's. It's running a little. A little behind the deadline.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, it's all right. Much expected. There's always. There's always. They always push. Yeah, it's gonna be fine.

[Joanne McNally]

It's fine. It'll happen. It'll happen, It'll happen. But with that, I was like, oh, this is actually not as. When I started to write that book. I was like, oh, I'm kind of. It's not coming as naturally. Or maybe it's not flowing in the way it used to before I started doing stand up because I was reading more and I was writing more long form, so I need to kind of get back in the headspace for it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That is funny that, like. Cause it is like, it's two different muscles.

[Joanne McNally]

It really is.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And you noticed it too. Cause, like, I like, try to write a sketch and then I try to write, like, some standup, and I'm like, this is two different beasts. It really is. It's like having to, like, recirc it kind of.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's interesting.

[Joanne McNally]

And same performance. Like, if you're doing. I've noticed now because I'm doing, like. Well, I'm doing clubs as well because I'll always be doing clubs to, like, write materials. But, like, the muscle of doing stand up in a big venue versus stand up in a small venue, that's a different muscle as well, because a whole different piece. The crowd work and everything that you can do that. That people do in smaller venues. That I'm like, I don't know if I can even do that anymore because I have to go back then and start from flexing that crowd work muscle. Because again, it is a muscle.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

When you're not using it, you. You lose it. It's like if you start running and then you stop running for a while, it's like, you've never ran in your life.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's where I'm at.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's where things are for me currently.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. I'm the same. It's so Hard.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, dude, it's the. The most I work out is walking in the airport, but that's loads.

[Joanne McNally]

I know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Running to my gate.

[Joanne McNally]

I swear to God, I nearly got up 10, 000 steps in an airport once. Especially America.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. You just land?

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[Host (Likely Nora)]

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[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. Sorry for your troubles.

[Joanne McNally]

It's okay. I have a visa, thank God.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, that's huge.

[Joanne McNally]

Sail through. Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's really good.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So do you have to tell them how long you're here for?

[Joanne McNally]

They weirdly didn't even ask me. Am I illegal?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

They go in stints about giving a and not giving a.

[Joanne McNally]

It's.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's bizarre.

[Joanne McNally]

I remember once I got. I landed into a Canadian airport and the like. Because I'm joking about the HHD thing, but I do obviously have a. I talked to it and I. Whatever.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I mean, I don't know if you've noticed, but you've been pulling the conversation harder than I have, and it's my fucking show.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm like, grace, back in the room. Thanks for bringing us back in the room.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Thanks for having me.

[Joanne McNally]

Focus.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Sorry.

[Joanne McNally]

But so queuing for me now. Like, I'd rather gargle. Silage.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Now, the definition here is line.

[Joanne McNally]

Being in a line, queuing, lining, lining up, engaging in any sort of line. I. And I find Americans actually are really good at queuing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

We've got a method to the madness in New York.

[Joanne McNally]

What are they queuing for?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Well, we're all in a fucking rush, so it's like, get in line, stand where you're supposed to be. We're all doing the same thing. This is the plan. This is how we do it.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, but where are they going? Like, sometimes I'm trying to. Where are they? It could be just.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

They could be running late to a podcast. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Or it could be a venue. Or like, sometimes New York has that amazing kind of charm to it where people are queuing to go in and look at a chair.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh. Oh, yes. So the whole new fucking thing. Sorry, I didn't know, like, you meant, like, outside. Yeah, outside, like. Yeah, this is new thing. It's like TikTok has blown places up.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

In the sense of, like, everyone's like, I got to go there. You got to try it. Yeah. And so everyone's lining up out front to go to these things. I don't get that shit. I thought you meant just lining up in general. I'm like, yeah, you wait in line for your turn.

[Joanne McNally]

No, no, no, no queuing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I hear you.

[Joanne McNally]

These extensive long snail queues around corners to get into. And I'm trying. They're going into a door that kind of looks like a phone booth. And I don't even know what's on the other side of it. It's obviously some exhibition or some weird art or some restaurant or something. It's a no from me.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

When I went to get my American visa. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for letting me in. I. I got it in London to go to the American Embassy, and I am. I have an aversion to lining up, waiting in line. And the cue was when I said I was like, how am I gonna get through this? Like, how am I gonna physically.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

How long was the line?

[Joanne McNally]

I queued for a couple of hours to join the queue.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

So I queued for a couple of hours and they're like, here's your ticket to join the actual queue. And then a couple more hours in the actual queue and it's pissing around. We were all outside and I remember going, I. If I get offered a hosting gig on SNL and my visas were late, I will never queue again. I'll just. I'll just. I'll just won't take the job. I don't care if I was offered my own shot show in the States. But they're like, you have to go back and get another visa. I'd be like, I'm sorry. The States just isn't gonna happen for me. I will never go back. And I was also kind of trying to wink, and I was like, come on, where's the. There must be a little back door here.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Where do the fancy people go? Come on.

[Joanne McNally]

Is Jimmy Carr queuing in the rain? Come on.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Is he. It is. It is funny.

[Joanne McNally]

Come on, There must be something. Come on. I'm trying to pull a string here. I strings get into the States.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It is funny to me. It's like, do these. Like, does everybody just.

[Joanne McNally]

Bono. Like, is Bono. Am I comparing myself to Bono? Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You guys are like this. I don't know if you need a visa if you fly private on a technicality. I would bring drugs if I could.

[Joanne McNally]

If you go private, you'd have to. Because you need to make some money when you get here to pay for the plane.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

You know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

You're gonna meal some bits and then

[Host (Likely Nora)]

you go in those cues, as you say, and just be like, hey, I got a little something. You guys wait. You guys waiting in line for the bar? Yeah. That's how I would sell some cocaine.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Personally, that's how I Would sell it. I got a little something. I got, like, a really quiet hot dog salesman. I got a little something.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Something. Something here. Something, something.

[Joanne McNally]

It's cocaine.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Bacon.

[Joanne McNally]

New York?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yes.

[Joanne McNally]

Is it?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. It's big in Ireland, too.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, yeah, it's huge in Ireland. But to me, every time I land in New York, I forget at the bang of weed off the place.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What is that?

[Joanne McNally]

Weed?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

What do you call it here?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You know, it smells like weed here. Yeah. Proper. Oh, it does, yeah. Oh. Oh, you live in London now? I was gonna say. Well, you. Fresh air.

[Joanne McNally]

London's the same.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Fresh air is all you got.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, not quite now. Yeah. It's not like it's the moors. Do you know what I mean? By the way, did you watch Wuthering Heights?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Not yet. No. That was gonna be my. My by myself movie scent.

[Joanne McNally]

I loved it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You did?

[Joanne McNally]

I loved it so much.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Was it anything? Did you read the book at all?

[Joanne McNally]

Yes, I did, and I'm not. Yes, I read the book. Do I remember it?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, was it part of, like.

[Joanne McNally]

It was all fresh information to me. When I went in, I was like, who's Heathcliff? Do I have a degree in this shit?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I did English in college. Oh. So that was like. Something like that.

[Joanne McNally]

I think I did it for my. I think we did Wuthering. Wuthering Heights in school. I think we did it in school.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Because I just found out that that's a. I just found out it's a book. That's how illiterate I am.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, then you'll love the film.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Instead, people are very snobby about it. They're like, oh, dare. It's not how. It's like. They're like. She'd be Emily Bronte. Be. She'd be turning in her grave. It's like she'd be delighted.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. She. She. When did she write the book?

[Joanne McNally]

She. In 1763. Oh.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. So she would think what she's seeing with her eyes would be magic.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, you think that the fact that we're still honoring her in 2026. She'd be fuming. She'd be out there on the red carpet with Margaret Robbie getting her photo taken.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

She. She would get a. She would. She would have got electrocuted from taking one still photograph. She would like to be hammered up. The Met gala is disappointing.

[Joanne McNally]

Or do you invite the film? Yeah, you have to go and see it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm excited. I'm excited. Did you go by yourself?

[Joanne McNally]

I went with a friend of mine, Louise and she was more. Because she was like, apparently this is really steamy. And I was like, oh. Because it's quite chaste and the book's quite chased, but obviously. And I was like, steamy. And then the amount of teasing and, like, edging between Jacob and Margot Robbie. By the time, like, I was like. I was like, I'm. I'm ready to go here. I'm ready.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I don't have to take off.

[Joanne McNally]

What's that buzzing saying? Besides, like, shut up.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You haven't seen Sex in the City? Like, a bunch. A bunch of female. What are they? What are the perverts? Female perverts?

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Like, they usually. They used to have, like, guys who would, like, jack off in the. The movie theaters by themselves. It's just women.

[Joanne McNally]

I had a guy jack off at a. One of my shows.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. It was quite the honor.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Okay, run me through that. And how do you handle that?

[Joanne McNally]

So I didn't know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What an honor.

[Joanne McNally]

That's what I said I would be.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So.

[Joanne McNally]

What an honor.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You could do that in my shows. Please.

[Joanne McNally]

I've been told I'm quite hostile. I don't get a lot of lads coming to show. So when this happened, I was like, bosom. So basically I was in. Where was I? It doesn't matter. It was somewhere north of England. Yorkshire, I think it was in Yorkshire. And it came off and I was told. I was like, apparently there was a lad wanking in the stalls. And I was like, shut up. It's so unusual to get men coming and. And to. And I was obviously coming and coming. Yeah. And I was like, oh, my God. Delighted. And I was like, which bit was it at? Like, what was I doing? You know, Was I kind of like. Because I have a couple of physical bits. I was like, mate, you know, remember to kind of hammer them the next time because it's obviously a sexy piece. Anyway, then one of the girls. He was removed.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What did he do? A little.

[Joanne McNally]

A little? No, but I have. It's just a bit of physical where I'm kind of like, stretch myself. I'm not like. I hold myself open on stage.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'll be right back.

[Joanne McNally]

Anyway, then someone had got a video. One of the girls in the. In the stalls or in the balcony at the time got a video. And it was less flattering. It turned out he was more just kind of having a. It was more like. He looked like he was keeping it warm for later. There was less of an aggressive look. Do you know what it was? He looked bored.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Ah.

[Joanne McNally]

It wasn't the compliment. I thought he wasn't looking. Going. Joanne's so hot. Oh, my God. I can't control myself. It was more like, I'm so bored. I'm gonna have a little go myself, keep myself going for maybe something that's gonna happen to him later. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you know, maybe he was trying

[Host (Likely Nora)]

to last the whole show. That's really nice because he's a huge fan of yes.

[Joanne McNally]

That's really sweet.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And so he was just like, I just really want to impress her. For how long I can go.

[Joanne McNally]

I haven't thought about it like that.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. I think that's. You have to look at it in a sweet way because that's how I would pivot.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm like, wow.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What an honor again.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, you're right.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You're right. I'm kind of living my dream.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, you're right.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's really nice.

[Joanne McNally]

And you see him and he sits. See him getting slowly removed. Was.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Sorry, I couldn't hear you. Someone's dying outside

[Joanne McNally]

the sirens.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

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[Joanne McNally]

Do you know what? I'm obsessed with the New York and I'm like a little nerd. The school buses. When I saw. When I saw. When I saw my first New York school Bus. I squealed like a child. It was like I'd seen the pyramids of Egypt.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Of all the things in New York City. The school bus.

[Joanne McNally]

I was getting my. You see, it's hard for you to understand because you're here. But, like, so New York is like the film set of my whole childhood. Like, all the films. So, like, oh, when I first came here, I was getting my photo taken with the, you know, the cisterns, the water cisterns, the water pipes, the water pumps, fire hydrants.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, no. So sorry about the language barrier thing. I should be able to use context clues, and I'm usually pretty good about it, but the watering pipes.

[Joanne McNally]

Fire hydrants.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Fire hydrants.

[Joanne McNally]

I was getting my photo taken with the fire hydrants.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So you guys. You guys just burn alive. What are you doing?

[Joanne McNally]

Hold on. What are we doing? Not the fire hydrants, the yellow things on the roads. Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Fire hydrants.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So you guys do not have those?

[Joanne McNally]

No.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What do you do. What do you do for water supply when you are having a fire?

[Joanne McNally]

I don't. With water supply issues? Is that the right term?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm learning. I don't really know what we have. They bring them in the truck. They bring them in the truck. Thank you, Rob.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

They bring it in the truck.

[Joanne McNally]

We bring ours in the truck.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Maybe that's better. Who's to say?

[Joanne McNally]

I was getting photos with it. Like, it was toot and camoon. I was, like, thrilled because I was like, someone must have thought you were

[Host (Likely Nora)]

on, like, shrooms or something. Like, look at me at the fire hydrant.

[Joanne McNally]

It's adorable. And then one day I saw, like, there were three or four school buses in a row. And I was like. When I say the camera was out, I was squealing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What is he? What is your fascination? My mom's a. A school bus driver.

[Joanne McNally]

Is she?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

She is.

[Joanne McNally]

Because I could see the old ones and they look really cumbersome to drive. They're quite intense.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, my God. My mom. They made her. She had to know everything that was in the engine.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And, like, driving it and all that stuff. It's like a. It's a whole thing.

[Joanne McNally]

They look like a big. They look like they're hard to drive, but because, again, they're so iconic. Because every teenage American movie that I've rewatched or any, they're like, what do

[Host (Likely Nora)]

yours look like now? I'm curious.

[Joanne McNally]

We don't really have any.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What do you mean?

[Joanne McNally]

Well, in Ireland, like, people. If you have a school, but there's no there's no uniform style of school bus. Oh, yeah. But the school itself might have a bus. It just looks like a. Like Greyhound. But there are cross country.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's business class.

[Joanne McNally]

That's our cross country. That's buses that you get, like, as an adult going from Cork to Dublin, but they're not. We don't have a matching school bus system. And so when I saw it. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're like, oh, my God. It's like a film set. My phone is full of videos. I'm like, that's like.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's like us going there. That. That is like. That is like me going there. Like, wow.

[Joanne McNally]

And then I look just like a weirdo filming all these kids. So whenever the kid.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm like, yeah, you can't. You shouldn't be doing that, especially with a visa. Not. Not at this political climate.

[Joanne McNally]

I just, like. I'm trying to map school so I can go. I'll be there when the buses arrive. Anyway. It's just so fun to see them all working.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What's the name of your tour right now?

[Joanne McNally]

Pino File.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

There it is.

[Joanne McNally]

P I, N O T File. Let's be very clear. Pino.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

That's a great name.

[Joanne McNally]

Some people are horrified.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

So I saw. I saw in your story last night that you got the big bottle of Pino.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, I. It's 1.5 liters. Yeah. What talk.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What about. What about three liters? Besides drink it all one night?

[Joanne McNally]

An American.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I could.

[Joanne McNally]

I could do that.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Listen, just one jug.

[Joanne McNally]

I could put that away in an afternoon. I was actually doing a chat show the other day. We're talking about cults. And I was saying, do you know the way they, like, communally kill each other at the end? They all drink the poison. I drink so much cheap wine that I. I am immortal. Like, you can't poison me. I just.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I don't think so.

[Joanne McNally]

Take a Sabadean and get on my day. Everyone else will be dead around me.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Let me. Let me run through. The rest will go rapid Firestyle.

[Joanne McNally]

Sure.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

All right, we got three more. Mac the Week.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, was that a radio? Yeah, I think I used to do a radio segment called Mac the Week when I first started out. God, Jesus, you've. You've done great work there.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

What kind of segments would you do?

[Joanne McNally]

I don't really remember. I think I was. I would do kind of what was going on that we. Culturally, like, all. I mean, it was hard. I was hardly doing, like, hard news. You know what I mean? I was like, it's like a podcast, delivering information on Iran or something. It was all very light, you know, very light stuff. And it was on. It was on a radio station called 2fm in Ireland. It was just a way of, like, you know, you have those comedian contributors on radio shows.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And it was actually. It was actually. It actually did me great, steed, as they'd say, because it kind of got me into doing more radio stuff when I would. I would. Look, there was a time where I would love to have had a radio show. Now I realize the freedom of podcasting.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Is actually better suited to me because I can travel around touring and stuff. Whereas when you're doing radio, you're kind of trapped.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You're locked in. It's also a salary.

[Joanne McNally]

Yes.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Podcasting. I don't know how it works, honestly, but I heard it's lucrative for some people.

[Joanne McNally]

Yes, I think there is.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

If things are good. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

There's a lot of money to be made in podcasts.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

You know, when people have Patreon accounts and stuff like that. But mark the week, that's what that was.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Hell, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

This is like, a lovely trip down memory lane, Nora.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Thank you, Baby Hater.

[Joanne McNally]

Baby Hater was a documentary I made back in. I'd say maybe 2018, 29, 2017, 2018, where I was again, kind of. They were looking for. I was getting going in the comedy world, and they were, you know, production companies, as they do kind of look for little vehicles for you. And I was going out with a guy at the time who was adamant he did not want children. There was just no way he was having kids. And I thought, as you do, that I. This would last.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Ha ha ha. I was just watching a clip of Liza Minnelli the other day, and they

[Host (Likely Nora)]

were like, liza Minnelli?

[Joanne McNally]

Liza Minnelli. And they're like, oh, go.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm gonna see her next week. Sorry. What? I just remembered. I'm sorry.

[Joanne McNally]

She wrote a book.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

She's doing a book signing, and it's like, I bought a $65 ticket.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, what she lost from Nellie.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And all she does is she shakes.

[Joanne McNally]

Right. She's halfway out the door. That scene. I always re share that scene from Arrested Development where she's. Have you seen this scene with the. I never remember their names. And she's like, look at you. Because her husband's in prison. She's like, look at you out and about, caution to the wind, shame be damned. No husband. And then your one's like, well, at least my husband's in Prison, not an urn. It's just one of the funniest scenes. But Liza talks about. They're like, what would you give as an advice for marriage? Because she's married so many times, she goes, it's never ish. It never lasts.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And then she's like, ah, so true, though.

[Joanne McNally]

You always think this is it and it never is. Which is what I would say about relationship as well. But anyway, so I was in this relationship so that I had to kind of explore. My journey is like, do I want kids? And am I? And so we pitch it as a documentary and we called it Baby Hater because, you know, it's a nice little bit of clickbaity name. And there was also a woman who we interviewed, women who had had children and regretted it, which was interesting. But, like, they still loved their kids, but they were saying, you know, it wasn't for me. I met someone while their child sat beside them. And you're like, this is weird.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I met someone very recently who they had. They admitted that to me.

[Joanne McNally]

And I was like, yeah, it's scary, isn't it?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And that was. We had just met, and I was like, I don't know what to say.

[Joanne McNally]

This woman's plan, was it a man or a woman?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It was a woman.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I was like, damn, I feel for you.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. But maybe if she's in the earth. How long. How old was the kid?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Baby. Yeah, She's a baby hater face. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. I think because, like, they call it postpartum depression now. I don't know.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I'm not a doctor, but I totally get that.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, your whole life is completely everything.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Everything slips upside down. People should talk about postpartum more. I think that's like. I don't know if you saw the Jennifer Lawrence movie. No, it's a. It's a, like, radical. I don't know. I don't know, because I can't speak on postpartum, but, like, it's like a intense version of postpartum. And they do it throughout the movie.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

But, like, I didn't really understand postpartum until I saw that movie.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Honest. Because we don't talk about it.

[Joanne McNally]

I must watch it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Because I do. I. I see friends and they're like the work that goes into, you know? And I think no matter how much they tell you, I just feel these women are so. Just not prepared for.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No.

[Joanne McNally]

The. On the. And the load that is on the mother, of course, and that it's just not the same pressure on the father. We all know that.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And then there were sold this lie that women can have it all. That's absolute horseshit. We can't.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No, you gotta pick and choose.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, you do have to pick and choose. And.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And you have this tiny human clinging onto you for life 24 hours a day, seven days a week, sucking the life and imagine the hope out of your tits. Out of your tits.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I mean, quite literally.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

The milk and the hope.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. But I. But that was what that was. And, and, but then you meet other women and like, you know, I think the general consensus is it's really, really hard.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

It's incredibly hard. And it's a thing.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. But then she.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You get one day a year where the kid like makes you a half ass birthday card. Yeah. And we don't even have the same one.

[Joanne McNally]

You don't have to say mother.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

We don't have to say Mother's day.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, sorry. No. We don't have to say Mother's Day.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

No. Yours just happened.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. How did you know that?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I stay up to date on Irish shit.

[Joanne McNally]

That's amazing.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah. How do you feel? I guess we'll close on this. How do you feel that the whole world is now coming to Ireland after years and years and years being like, we love Ireland.

[Joanne McNally]

We're really having a moment, aren't we?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

You really are.

[Joanne McNally]

Do you know that the Irish passport is the most expensive passport in the black market?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Really? On the black market? How did you find that information out? You haven't run in with the law now. If things don't go good in America,

[Joanne McNally]

I'll sell it. And so I. This is what I. My, my. From my extensive research. The password. The Irish Passport's worth about 200K.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Wow.

[Joanne McNally]

I know. I used to do it in stand up that I'd sell it and I'd be driving around in a lobster pot and there'd be some Russian mobster just breezing through American immigration.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Well, maybe

[Joanne McNally]

I'm a happy outing. My jewels.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I just. Maybe, maybe at some point in your life you'll find it in you to be like your buddy and just be like, yeah, I'm content. And then you can sell the passport and just never leave.

[Joanne McNally]

Never leave. I got a new one, I think.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, I lost it.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, exactly. They have to give it to you. One of my favorite stories about a woman who. Her boyfriend cheated on her and she. She moved out of the house, but she caught his photo out of his passport but didn't tell him and just put it back in the drawer. So we went next and went on holiday with his new girlfriend. No, she wrote in. She wrote into us or else I read it somewhere. You know, I can't tell. We do so many of these problem things on the podcast. And by the way my podcast called My therapist goes to me. I need to also plug that oh

[Host (Likely Nora)]

100% in a couple seconds when I have you look right since the camera and do a couple things.

[Joanne McNally]

And yes, when he went to the airport with his new girlfriend, he wasn't going anywhere. Oh, that's good, isn't it?

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh, it's like the, the most sly way to someone over. That is great.

[Joanne McNally]

I know. Just slow and steady revenge. Not nothing big, nothing melodramatic.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I really like that.

[Joanne McNally]

So do I. That's really good tip.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

I don't know how to end this cuz I could, I could chat with you all day. This has been awesome. I. I adore you. I think you're fucking hilarious. And I guess to end it I'm just gonna have you look right into this camera.

[Joanne McNally]

Sure.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

And what we do is we do like a rapid fire. Shout out as many people as you want. I'll give you an example. Shout out the guy at the laundry store. Shout out to Marianne. Shout out to Washington D.C. shout out to Dance Party Revolution. Shout out.

[Joanne McNally]

Can I get my.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Who the hell am I really?

[Joanne McNally]

I'm gonna be really. I have no sentimental attachment to anyone and just shout out my tour dice.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah everyone.

[Joanne McNally]

Anyway, these are where I'm going on tour and this, the American Tour starts on the 8th of October. I'm over here for about two months I think. Yeah, it's a long ass time to be living out of a suitcase.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Yeah, it is.

[Joanne McNally]

So please come so I'm not just living out of a suitcase and crying myself to sleep. Salt Lake City, Las Vegas. Las Vegas. Las Vegas. Las Vegas Jesus. Four shows in Las Vegas. I didn't know that. Phoenix, Vancouver, Houston, Austin, Austin, Austin, Austin, Jesus. Dallas, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia, Philadelphia. Blah blah blah. Boston.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Oh yep.

[Joanne McNally]

5th of November. Toronto. That's it.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Hell yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and Sacramento.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

Thank you so much for coming on. This has been a pleasure.

[Joanne McNally]

Plugged my tour. I want to un alive myself with shame. I Joann mcnally.com and that's your hand baby.

[Host (Likely Nora)]

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[Host (Likely Nora)]

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[Joanne McNally]

Uh, no, sorry.

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[Joanne McNally]

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[Host (Likely Nora)]

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