Sarah Sherman: Anti-Banana, Pro-Meat Puppet

Summary

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Disgraceful with Grace O'Malley — “Sarah Sherman: Anti-Banana, Pro-Meat Puppet”

Date: April 2, 2026
Host: Steven O’Malley (aka "Unwell")
Guest: Sarah Sherman
Location: New York City

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Episode Overview

In this irreverent, candid, and wildly funny episode, comedian Steven O’Malley ("Unwell") auditions Sarah Sherman (SNL, noted absurdist comic and prop humorist) for the permanent co-host seat on DisGRACEful. The pair engage in freewheeling games, probing questions, and deep dives into their respective odd, cringeworthy, and formative experiences—from summer camp social failures to dream analysis, pop star eras, weed “ego death,” and the controversy surrounding bananas. Throughout, Sherman responds with her signature blend of bizarre specificity, Jewish millennial nostalgia, and physical comedy sensibility, culminating in a show-and-tell of props and “receipts” from her past.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comedy Origins & Early Tastes

• First Bombs & Cringe Childhood Stories

  • Sarah and Steven reminisce about their earliest attempts at comedy for adults as kids, including jokes that landed flat and wild T-shirts with accidental double entendres.
  • Memorable moment: Sarah shares being out of the loop on an adult joke about her “Go Deep in the Virgin Islands” scuba shirt (09:00).

• Pick-Me Kids & Adult Attention

  • Both admit to seeking adult approval as kids, with Sarah playing teacher’s-lounge gadfly and Steven pretending to be a helpful waitress to join adult conversations.

2. “Icebreaker” Game: DisGRACEful Associations ([01:35]–[10:57])

• Steven word-associates with Sarah about obscure or personal topics he dug up, including “leg dog,” “Jungian dream analysis,” “bananas,” Police reunion tours, and “raw meat puppet.”

• Quote — “I made a video where I shaved my legs with ketchup and mustard, and it was disgusting. ... It burned because there's, like, vinegar in ketchup and mustard.” — Sarah ([02:31])

• Quote — “I think I have the cilantro soap thing with banana. It’s a freakish—I don’t like the texture, I don’t like the way it smells, I like the way it looks, I don’t like the way it acts. I don’t like anything about it.” — Sarah ([06:36])

• The “meat puppet” is explained as an actual puppet made from raw meat, created by Sarah in college, post-Lady Gaga’s meat dress ([09:59]).

3. Pop Stars, Weed, and “Psychosis” Eras ([10:50]–[17:56])

• Gaga’s "artpop" phase, Miley’s “Dead Petz,” and the cultural legitimacy of pop star breakdown/experimentation phases.
• Both reminisce about being restricted from attending controversial pop concerts due to parental concern.
• Quote — “I like any weed psychosis era.” — Sarah ([13:22])

Weed Culture & Quitting

• Sarah describes her “ego death” on a weed mint, leading to a long-term break; both host and guest discuss being unable to function on weed, and social pressure to partake.
• Quote — “Weed broke me... I was high for what felt like three full days. ... I might as well smoke crack if I smoke weed.” — Sarah ([17:21])

4. Name Twin Adventures and AIM Nostalgia ([25:33]–[31:52])

• Sarah recalls connecting with another "Sarah Sherman" online and literal name-twinning on Snapchat and Facebook.
• Reminiscence about AOL Instant Messenger screen names/away messages.
• Sarah describes her obsessive attempts to get the attention of her summer camp crush via burner AIM accounts:
  • Quote — “You would diagnose this behavior as, like, stalk—schizophrenic, stalker. I’ve done it.” — Sarah ([30:14])

5. Nerd Prestige, Science Camp, and Outcast Rites ([37:29]–[41:05])

• Sarah shares stories of being a “mute, annoying mutant” at camp; her preference for dissecting squids and doing magic over “cool kid” sports.
• Memorable moment: “After a long day at science camp, goggles off, I’d meet my cool friend at lunch. They’d be like ‘I went to the pool.’ I’d be like, ‘I found out you can make a lava lamp.’” ([39:08])

6. Pedophile Panics & Suburban Urban Legends ([44:13]–[46:03])

• Both recall how their parents warned them off community theater because of “pedophiles,” with hyperlocal legends like “Skittles,” “Gary the Clown,” and a real-life documentary filmed in Sarah’s neighborhood.
• Quote — “My parents wouldn’t let me do community theater because they were like, then pedophiles can find you. … I knew about pedophiles very early.” — Sarah ([44:13])

7. High School Infamy: Thong Gate & Webcam Blowjob Scandal ([46:03]–[47:59])

• Legendary “Thong Gate” (“whale tail” fashion led to a schoolwide ban) and “Blowjob Webcam Gate” in Long Island:
  • “There was a school assembly: ‘Guys, no more thongs. … and guys, no more webcams.’” ([47:14])

8. Disgraceful Receipts Segment: Sarah’s Props/Internet Footprint ([62:39]–[70:28])

• Host and Sarah review odd photos, SNL sketches, and past performances—including her infamous “meat puppet” and painted suits.
• Sarah describes wearing discount Betsey Johnson to her bat mitzvah karaoke (“I sang ‘Roxanne’ by The Police ... at 13.” ([07:12])).
• Quote — “That’s me holding the Torah at my bat mitzvah. And I’m wearing discount Betsey Johnson head to toe.” — Sarah ([65:36])

9. On Comedy, Fame, and Hall Passes ([57:01]–[59:52])

• Sarah talks about having longstanding celebrity crushes before SNL—but often being disappointed when meeting them.

• Quote — “I just—I'm like, oh. In real life, it's not the same. This person needs attention as badly as I do. It’s not hot.” ([60:05])

• Discussion of passing bags of fake pubes at her shows, props at SNL, and her as-yet-unrealized “long boobs” sketch ([60:26]).

10. Sherman’s HBO Special & Inspirations ([73:09]–[74:19])

• Behind the scenes of Sarah’s HBO special: visual influences (Crashbox, Peewee’s Playhouse, Seinfeld), costs of using the Seinfeld sound, and her deep affection for “weirdo” TV.

• Quote — “It’s got, like, a Crashbox vibe. The Nanny, Seinfeld, Golden Girls, Peewee’s Playhouse. … All that crap.” — Sarah ([73:31])

• Closed captions labeled her singing “atonally” (71:06).

11. Serendipity & Gilda Radner ([75:27]–[76:09])

• Sarah discusses how, for a while, SNL residuals meant for her were sent to Gilda Radner’s estate—something she saw as a “sign from God” and a touchpoint with her comedic icon.

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Notable Quotes & Time Stamps

• “I unwittingly probably am filling a lot of porn boxes that I don’t know about.” — Sarah, on her “leg dog” ketchup/mustard video ([02:41])
• “I have the cilantro soap thing with banana… I don’t like the way it acts.” — Sarah, on her banana aversion ([06:36])
• “Weed broke me... I could never go back.” — Sarah on her disastrous weed experience ([17:21])
• “You would diagnose this as stalk, schizophrenic stalker. I’ve done it.” — Sarah, on AIM obsession ([30:14])
• “They have to be blackout on camera saying… Has she done things that are basically beyond reproach and should be in jail? Yes. That’s why I like watching her.” — Sarah, on Real Housewives ([22:00])
• “Do you remember when you first got a Facebook or a MySpace and you’d link with someone who had your same name?” — Steven ([25:33])
• “My parents wouldn’t let me do community theater because they were like, then pedophiles can find you.” — Sarah ([44:13])
• “There was a school assembly: ‘Guys, no more thongs… and guys, no more webcams.’” — Sarah ([47:14])
• “Passing bags of fake pubes at shows? Did you try that at SNL?” — Steven ([60:09])
• “It’s got, like, a Crashbox vibe.” — Steven/O’Malley ([73:09])
• “At the end of your special, the captions say, ‘Sarah sings atonally.’” — Steven ([71:05])
• “All my residuals were being sent to Gilda Radner’s estate. I took it as a sign from God.” — Sarah ([75:40])

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• [01:35] Icebreaker word-association game
• [04:11] “Jungian dream analysis” and therapy gags
• [06:36] Extended banana debate
• [07:12] Bat mitzvah karaoke story (“Roxanne”)
• [17:21] Sarah’s weed “ego death” story
• [25:33] Name twin and AIM nostalgia
• [37:29] Science camp and outcast confessions
• [46:03] Thonggate & Webcam scandals
• [62:39] Disgraceful Receipts: Sarah’s photo/propr collection
• [73:09] HBO Special inspirations and process
• [75:27] Gilda Radner residuals anecdote

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Tone and Flow

The episode is quick-witted, tangential, and chaotically warm—a mix of Jewish East Coast nostalgia, cringe comedy, and millennial internet lore. Both Steven and Sarah lean into self-deprecation, share humiliating formative experiences with candor, and gleefully roast one another while exploring what makes an authentic “disgraceful” comic. Banter is rapid-fire but always circles in on real vulnerability behind the bits.

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Final Takeaways

• Sarah Sherman embodies “disgraceful” authenticity—embracing awkwardness, bodily humor, weird art, and outsider perspective as comedic superpowers.
• The two hosts share a deep sense of being outcasts-turned-comedians, with the scars and stories to prove it.
• Listeners new to Sarah will leave with a thorough, hilarious, sometimes shocking, always heartfelt portrait—including childhood AIM stalking, summer camp outcast realities, and her artistic process for comedy on and off SNL.

Shoutout:
“World peace! (And check out my HBO special.)” — Sarah Sherman ([76:51])

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Transcript

[Sarah Sherman]

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[Steven O'Malley]

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[Sarah Sherman]

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[Steven O'Malley]

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[Sarah Sherman]

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[Steven O'Malley]

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[Sarah Sherman]

I'm Sarah Sherman, and I am quite

[Steven O'Malley]

disgraceful and welcome in. Dude, I am. I just want to say it. I already kind of said it when you walked in, but I'm a huge fan of yours, and I am just. I'm jazzed.

[Sarah Sherman]

Show the class what's on the back of your sweater. Come on. I love that.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm not clowning with you when I say I love you. I love you. I'm a big fan, man. So to have you on, I'm a little nervous, not gonna lie. But you look incredible.

[Sarah Sherman]

Sure.

[Steven O'Malley]

I wore this sweater for you.

[Sarah Sherman]

I love it.

[Steven O'Malley]

Purchased it without sounding weird and dawn of you when I saw it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Please.

[Steven O'Malley]

So that it already means you have a vibe.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'll take it.

[Steven O'Malley]

You've got an excellent vibe. And to get those vibes going, let's start with a little icebreaker.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, okay.

[Steven O'Malley]

All right. I'm gonna say some words, and you tell me what comes to your head when I say them.

[Sarah Sherman]

Okay?

[Steven O'Malley]

All right. Leg dog.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, my God. Leg dog. Oh, you did research.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, we do a deep dive. We give a.

[Sarah Sherman]

Is that on the Internet?

[Steven O'Malley]

It's on the Internet.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, that shouldn't be on the Internet.

[Steven O'Malley]

Please explain.

[Sarah Sherman]

I made a video. I mean, that's got to be, like, 12 years old. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. I made a video where I. Leg dog. I'm like, I guess I was thinking of that when you. I'm not even playing your game, right.

[Steven O'Malley]

No, it's quite all right. I just. As. As a viewer at home, they must be lost.

[Sarah Sherman]

They must be so confused in I, I, I, I. I thought you meant like when someone takes a picture of their legs at the beach and they look like a little hot dog.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, hot dogs. Yeah. Little 2011 action.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yes. Well, it sounds like this isn't around the same time it.

[Sarah Sherman]

I made a video where I shaved my legs with ketchup and mustard, and it was disgusting.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's actually kind of a niche for some people online. I feel like.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, I unwittingly probably am filling a lot of porn boxes that I don't know about.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, I mean, that's a real. I mean, once you've seen everything, it's time for the hot dog shave.

[Sarah Sherman]

I mean. And it burned. It burned because there's, like, vinegar in ketchup and mustard.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, shit. I was gonna ask if it ended up leaving you silky smooth. Cause there was a thing. It was silky smooth about ketchup. What did they say, Hannah Montana? They said that ketchup is better than moisturizer.

[Sarah Sherman]

Well, she can't be saying that on tv. She gets sued.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, you know, she's back, and she's better than ever. Watch the new tape. I'm just kidding.

[Sarah Sherman]

Wait, she is back, isn't she?

[Steven O'Malley]

She is. She had a 20th anniversary. Can you believe it's been 20 years?

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm old.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. That's how I'm feeling.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm old.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's pretty brutal.

[Sarah Sherman]

That is. I thought you were gonna tell me something. Like, you know how, like. Oh, like, my mom used to, like, wash her hair with mayo? Because it made it like.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's always like. Like, back. Back in the 50s, we didn't even wash our hair. We grew right back. It doesn't do that anymore.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. I used to eat my shampoo, even.

[Steven O'Malley]

It was edible. It was good stuff.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was good for you.

[Steven O'Malley]

Everyone was wondering why they got cancer.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was. You know what? I think all of our parents are crazy because of lead paint.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'd say so.

[Sarah Sherman]

Something's going on.

[Steven O'Malley]

I mean, my dad grew up in one town, and every single person got cancer, but it was next to a power plant, Right? So it's kind of cause and effect right there. Wow. All right, What. What. What do you think of when I say now. Sorry if I pronounced this wrong. Jungian dream analysis.

[Sarah Sherman]

Close. Jungian dream analysis.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's my bad. I. I'm not very bilingual.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, hey, listen, listen, listen. You don't got to be bisexual lingo to know about bisexual. Lingual. Bilingual, bisexual.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'll take it.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's. I'm in. I'm in therapy. That doesn't work.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay? Yeah. Three times.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Tough.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's. How do you squeeze that in?

[Sarah Sherman]

I don't. And I.

[Steven O'Malley]

So it's a lie.

[Sarah Sherman]

I can't. I hear.

[Steven O'Malley]

Not here, not now.

[Sarah Sherman]

I texted my therapist today. I cannot because I had a busy day. I was like, can we reschedule? And he's like, no. And I'm like, but I'm busy.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. What?

[Sarah Sherman]

Wow.

[Steven O'Malley]

Why are you gonna squeeze? I mean, so now there's a. There's a fee involved.

[Sarah Sherman]

There's a fee involved. He shouldn't be so lucky, by the way, that I'm going to him.

[Steven O'Malley]

You are gonna go.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. I'm. I was like, can I just cancel it? And he's like, no. And I'm like, okay, I'll see you tomorrow then. Geez.

[Steven O'Malley]

I had. I had a. A psychiatrist break up with me because I wasn't able to make it. He goes, this is it. I'm done. Over text. Okay. He was supposed to help with that across state lines and wasn't supposed to be prescribing me, but, you know, it

[Sarah Sherman]

is what you want Adderall? Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Just something to get you going.

[Sarah Sherman]

All right.

[Steven O'Malley]

Little energizing bunny.

[Sarah Sherman]

I love. Dude, Adderall that shit. Come on.

[Steven O'Malley]

Mother's little helpers, baby.

[Sarah Sherman]

Let's go.

[Steven O'Malley]

Let's get it. That's what they were giving Ritalin and Adderall back to the 1950s. The Housewives. And they're like, I don't know. They just said it was Mother's little helper. And they're just running around the house on meth and not.

[Sarah Sherman]

No food, no sleep, white knuckling or chicken salad.

[Steven O'Malley]

He's like, the dinner's ready. It's been ready for hours. I'm not hungry.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's amazing.

[Steven O'Malley]

Next one up, bananas.

[Sarah Sherman]

I don't like that.

[Steven O'Malley]

I noted that. I don't like that. I don't now. Why is that?

[Sarah Sherman]

They smell very odd to me.

[Steven O'Malley]

And does this count for banana flavored things as well?

[Sarah Sherman]

Kind of, yeah. Like, I know a lot, like, Bowen is, like, obsessed with Banana Laffy Taffy.

[Steven O'Malley]

That was the first thing that came to my mind. That's the first thing I would say. Absolutely not.

[Sarah Sherman]

You don't like those?

[Steven O'Malley]

No.

[Sarah Sherman]

They're a huge hit in Bowen's household.

[Steven O'Malley]

Wow. He's the only one eating them.

[Sarah Sherman]

They are. They're usually the ones that are left, I would say.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

I think there's, like, kind of a fan base around them.

[Steven O'Malley]

There always is. It's like the black licorice people. Do you. I mean, there's always. Yeah, you know, there's. There's. There's one for everyone.

[Sarah Sherman]

I think I have the cilantro soap thing with banana. It's a freak. It's a freakish. I don't like the texture. I don't like the way it smells. I like the way it looks. I don't like the way it acts. I don't like anything about it.

[Steven O'Malley]

Not even as a play prop.

[Sarah Sherman]

I like. Would rather avoid it. Even as a play prop.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. And that's why people think you're gay, right? I think. Yeah. Let's move on. Police reunion tour.

[Sarah Sherman]

This is a. Where would I have been talking about this? I did go on it.

[Steven O'Malley]

You did?

[Sarah Sherman]

I did my. At my bat mitzvah. My bat mitzvah was a karaoke party.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, that is awesome. So that's the theme.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was the theme. And I sang Roxanne by the Police because I had such a good time on the Police reunion tour. Oh, wow. When I was 13. Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

And then. And when it's your bat. Bat.

[Sarah Sherman]

Bat, bat.

[Steven O'Malley]

When it's your Bat Mitzvah, you get to be the star of the show.

[Sarah Sherman]

I was the star of the show.

[Steven O'Malley]

And you chose to sing Roxanne.

[Sarah Sherman]

You don't have to put on the red light. That is interesting.

[Steven O'Malley]

Seductive for a child.

[Sarah Sherman]

I think that's why I was doing it, because I was like, I know what this.

[Steven O'Malley]

Did you think when you were younger that you were, like. Like a lot more mature than the other kids?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, me too, man. Yeah, me too. Somebody. Somebody asked my sister the other day. What? When did you know your sister was funny? She goes, when the only the adults would pay attention to her. And I was like, yeah, okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

Did you love adult attention when you were.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, my God. If they. If they needed a waitress, I'm gonna go get you a drink. 100. I'm playing waitress just so I can gossip.

[Sarah Sherman]

Going to the teacher's lounge on your lunch break to be like, hey, like, I need help with, like, my homework.

[Steven O'Malley]

And they're like, you can't be in here. Like, no.

[Sarah Sherman]

Cool.

[Steven O'Malley]

No, I'm as well sh. That I can.

[Sarah Sherman]

She said I could chill here. There's no problem.

[Steven O'Malley]

I was like, yeah. She's like, taxes, right? Just like, trying to get in with it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Back hurts. Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

I remember one time I was trying to do jokes for adults, and my. My aunt, she had a bunch of. Of her friends over, and I tried to say it was like a. Like a state of the union inside. There was so many different People. But I said, oh, it's like the World Trade center in there. And that was my first bomb. It killed me, literally. Yeah, that was pretty brutal. I was like, yeah, that. That didn't hit my first bomb. Just like, in convo.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Fuck. I remember. I don't know if this counts, but I got this shirt at TJ Maxx that had a scuba diver on it, and it said, go deep in the Virgin Islands. And the scuba diver, I didn't know.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

So my first bomb was someone being like, yo, nice shirt. And I was, like, not being in on a joke for the first time.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yeah. I just thought it was a T

[Sarah Sherman]

shirt from TJ Maxx. I didn't know.

[Steven O'Malley]

So how do you reply? Yeah, I know, right?

[Sarah Sherman]

I think I was like, yeah. Like, what do you mean by that?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. And also, what else do you think? Because I'm out of the loop right now.

[Sarah Sherman]

Extrapolate on what you mean. Fill in the details around what you might be saying.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. It's pretty brutal to be out on a joke of your own self.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know. And I was wearing this shirt.

[Steven O'Malley]

And so now, forever, we try to be ahead of the joke and we say it first.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. And we're the clowns.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, that's what it is.

[Sarah Sherman]

Damn, these questions are crazy.

[Steven O'Malley]

Up next, we've got raw meat puppet, right. To go with the crazy train that we're already on.

[Sarah Sherman]

Wow. I made a raw meat puppet in college. Just.

[Steven O'Malley]

Is this pre Gaga or post Gaga?

[Sarah Sherman]

You know what it was? Post Gaga.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. I can't believe I'm going on record saying this. I. How do I say this charitably?

[Steven O'Malley]

I think I already know what's coming.

[Sarah Sherman]

I was such a Madonna whore my whole life.

[Steven O'Malley]

Because you're older for your age, of course. Yes, of course.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I'm 21 8, I think. I'm barely 18. Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

At the. At this moment, right now.

[Sarah Sherman]

At this moment, right now. So then I would have been at that point, like, six, seven, baby. Yeah. Could barely even open my eyes, really? Or keep my head up. I can barely keep my head around. Good night. So such a Madonna horn my whole life that I was like, oh. But then Lady Gaga did the meat dress, and I was kind of like,

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm kind of with the vision.

[Sarah Sherman]

And then I kind of. I don't know where I went. I'll be honest, I don't know where I went.

[Steven O'Malley]

High school was a blur.

[Sarah Sherman]

I was, like, smoking crack rock in the bus before school.

[Steven O'Malley]

Long island classic. Of course.

[Sarah Sherman]

A Mayhem sent me. I Go my paws up.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh my God. For a long time.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I should have known what meat dress like. Okay. But then she was doing her own kind of thing.

[Steven O'Malley]

So I got tickets to art pop. Yeah, you do art pop. She was apparently going through a manic episode and I got tickets for like 20 bucks. And we were like, let's just go check it out. And I was like, this is it.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm in.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's when I was in.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, see, I wish I. Cause I feel like I would have gotten art popped.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

At the time.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was her weed psychosis era.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Which I just found out about. And I was like, that kind of fucking makes sense with what was going on there.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like, I was all down for Miley and her dead pets, which she has now written off as weed psychosis. I go, my Paul is up for that.

[Steven O'Malley]

Did you get to go?

[Sarah Sherman]

I did not get to go because

[Steven O'Malley]

I did not get to go. I had my own money from my own job and my parents said, no, she's bad. I said, I'm a freshman in high school school. I think I can make my own decisions.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh. Because she was weed smoking and she

[Steven O'Malley]

was, she was out and you know, she wasn't being a good Catholic girl. Right. And that's, that's from my parents perspective.

[Sarah Sherman]

She wasn't.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, yeah. So I'll. I'll never. I still get worked up, but you see how upset I just got kind of insane. Right? Just like get over it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Totally respect it. Because like not many people are putting respect on that era.

[Steven O'Malley]

Truly. I mean, the Bangers album. Oh, you're talking dead pets.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, but Bangers, who is my paws up?

[Steven O'Malley]

If you have an event that you're getting ready for and you're a little nervous about it and you want to have a really good time, listen to bangers while getting ready, I promise you, you're going to have the best night of your life.

[Sarah Sherman]

Are people even putting enough respect on her name? Cuz I don't you not to typecast you.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, no, it's not.

[Sarah Sherman]

I think you have your finger on the pulse of the culture.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, thank you. That's actually really kind. I thought you're going to see something like downright bad.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, no, I'm not. Not.

[Steven O'Malley]

You know, Ginger, what are we going to go here?

[Sarah Sherman]

Not to pigeonhole you, but you know about what's going on in the youth.

[Steven O'Malley]

You kind of have to.

[Sarah Sherman]

But I don't know.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

And so, but I was getting scared. I was like, wait, are people not putting restruct on my list.

[Steven O'Malley]

No, they are.

[Sarah Sherman]

Okay.

[Steven O'Malley]

They are. It's just that in that era, the dead pets was. We could chalk that up to weed psychosis a little bit. But if you're down with it. I'm down with it.

[Sarah Sherman]

I like any weed psychosis era.

[Steven O'Malley]

Who else had something like that? You ever go through one?

[Sarah Sherman]

I.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yes.

[Sarah Sherman]

I stopped smoking weed because I. I was sent. I got sent. I experienced ego death on a weed mint.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Sarah Sherman]

I did this come up in the research?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yes, it did.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. I can't fucking my mouth. It's like I would always say six things over and over again.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, that's the thing. I. I just did. Michael Longfellow has this new show, the Void.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

And I spent a whole week being like, what is something? Because the prompt was, say something you've never said before into the void. And I was like, I have said it all. And maybe that's my problem.

[Sarah Sherman]

I don't. I'm like. I think the thing that I've never said out loud, it's like. I don't even think my therapist has heard.

[Steven O'Malley]

No. And I don't even know what that is because I can't even access that. My brain doesn't let me.

[Sarah Sherman]

Why have I not said out loud?

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, please. For this pod.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

I don't even know.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's funny, though. I like his.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, it is a great concept.

[Sarah Sherman]

What did you say?

[Steven O'Malley]

You're gonna have to watch.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'll give it to him. I'll give it to him. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Nice.

[Steven O'Malley]

Nice. But I couldn't come up with anything for like a week.

[Sarah Sherman]

I was like, this is bad. I'm glad he gave you a week prep time.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, I did. It was good.

[Sarah Sherman]

You know my mom and his mom friends.

[Steven O'Malley]

No shit.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Wow. They had. They went on a little trip together.

[Steven O'Malley]

No way.

[Sarah Sherman]

My mom visited his mom.

[Steven O'Malley]

They meet at a little party.

[Sarah Sherman]

They met at snl.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's awesome. Like a Mother's Day.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's really cute. That's adorable.

[Sarah Sherman]

Shout out. Robin and Victoria was good.

[Steven O'Malley]

Shout out, girls.

[Sarah Sherman]

Shout out, girls.

[Steven O'Malley]

Where'd they. On their little girl?

[Sarah Sherman]

Arizona.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, that's where he's from, right?

[Sarah Sherman]

My mom went there. Yeah. I've had a little Arizona time.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, my God. You can get crazy in Arizona. Go to Scottdale.

[Sarah Sherman]

Can I go Sedona?

[Steven O'Malley]

Have you ever been a bachelorette party?

[Sarah Sherman]

No, no, I. No.

[Steven O'Malley]

Too busy. Huh?

[Sarah Sherman]

When you. No, I just. I guess I don't have any friends.

[Steven O'Malley]

Female friends.

[Sarah Sherman]

Female friends. Right. Or move on. I actually was invited to a bachelorette party.

[Steven O'Malley]

You were?

[Sarah Sherman]

I was invited to two. Can't go.

[Steven O'Malley]

Can't go. Yeah. Job comes first. I heard your work. Oh, why. Why am I slurring this? A workhorse?

[Sarah Sherman]

I. Yeah, sure.

[Steven O'Malley]

I heard you get there early.

[Sarah Sherman]

I get. Yeah, yeah, I do.

[Steven O'Malley]

You clock in those.

[Sarah Sherman]

I do, I do.

[Steven O'Malley]

Do you go in early and then you leave early or. No, go in early.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm just slow. I'm not, like, a good at working. What do they say? Work smart, not hard? I just work hard, not smart. Okay, slow.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm with it.

[Sarah Sherman]

I gotta get there. I gotta, like, get my shit, get tapped on my. Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

What do we turn on? What are you turning on?

[Sarah Sherman]

My lava lamp.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, lava lamp.

[Sarah Sherman]

I have a lava lamp in every. Every room where I need to be productive. I have a lava lamp.

[Steven O'Malley]

That is the least shocking thing I've ever heard.

[Sarah Sherman]

Have you fucking looked at a lava lamp recently?

[Steven O'Malley]

Not for too long. I'll go into weed psychosis.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, no. I might break my weed sobriety just to stare at a lava lamp piece.

[Steven O'Malley]

How long you been going?

[Sarah Sherman]

You know, I've been saying I've been weed sober for five years, but.

[Steven O'Malley]

You mean, like, religiously smoking?

[Sarah Sherman]

No, I had a bong.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay, that means you were in deep.

[Sarah Sherman]

Is that crazy?

[Steven O'Malley]

Pretty crazy. Guys, you're underage.

[Sarah Sherman]

Block your ears. What a fat, short chode. Like, bong.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, wow. That's like the classic.

[Sarah Sherman]

But that's so weird. I think that, you know, I think

[Steven O'Malley]

everyone needs to own one at one time.

[Sarah Sherman]

Do you smoke weed?

[Steven O'Malley]

I cannot.

[Sarah Sherman]

I cannot.

[Steven O'Malley]

I cannot. And you know what I say to people? I say I'm an uppers only kind of girl, and I got to stop saying that.

[Sarah Sherman]

Why? Cuz people just giving it to you?

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, no, cuz then it's just. It's like, all right, I asked you if you smoked weed, not if you're a junkie. It's not a good. I just don't want to sound. Not cool.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right. No, you sound cool by saying uppers only.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, right. It's in.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's the thing, everybody. That's what I'm talking about anyway.

[Steven O'Malley]

Talking about. Yeah, but. But weed, we. We broke you.

[Sarah Sherman]

Weed broke me. It just. I don't know what. I lost my mind. It just, like. I don't. I. I guess my. My mind was just fried. And then one weed mint took me over the edge and I was, like, gone. I could never go back. And I. I was high for, like, if. What felt like three Full days. And I don't understand because it's like weed. Is this, like, casual? You know, people just like, smoke weed, like in the morning to do and they go. Or like when you find out that someone, you know forever is like high all the time. I can't even. I might as well smoke crack if I smoke weed.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yes, I'm with you there.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, my God. I smoked weed recently. I just remember what the hell the. It's breaking your brain. You're forgetting everything. Oh, my God. I told you because this is what I said. I like, I tell everyone like, oh, I don't smoke weed, I don't smoke weed. And then literally I went on stage, st's tour bus for like two days.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, that's that you're just going to get contact high, right?

[Sarah Sherman]

Well, the first time I was like, yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm whatever, like, you guys have fun with your weed. And then all of a sudden I'm like, smoking, it's a vibe.

[Steven O'Malley]

When you're around it, it's a definite vibe. And you're a vibe killer if you don't.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I was like, no, cuz like sleeping on a tour bus, it's like, it's really hard. It's like bumping. So I'm like, oh, maybe this will help. Not being like a cool weed girl, it was crazy.

[Steven O'Malley]

So did you. Did you feel a part of a community when you did so I felt

[Sarah Sherman]

part of a community and I was like, I. I've been so afraid of being weed at high for so many years because of when it almost killed me.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, yeah. How many years? Sorry, I don't know if we ever got to that right.

[Sarah Sherman]

Well, so if I'm 18 and then right now you gotta count your bat mitzvah for whatever that counts for like five minutes.

[Steven O'Malley]

But I, like, just smoke before coming here. Another weird, weird thing I forgot.

[Sarah Sherman]

Don't you think about, like, how many people do you think have, like, come on your podcast high and you, like, don't know?

[Steven O'Malley]

Whoa.

[Sarah Sherman]

You know what I mean?

[Steven O'Malley]

It's never even crossed my mind because I don't smoke.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know, but there are people around. Have you ever lived in la?

[Steven O'Malley]

No, thanks. Have you?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

There's like a thing that happens when you live in LA and it's. You can learn this from visiting, but it's mostly from living there. You'll be like, you know, whatever. You run into someone at the grocery store and you're like, hey. And you're like, oh, my God, that person. I've known like my whole life. Acted like, kind of weird to me. And then you, like, start taking it personally, and then you remember they're high.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, that's gotta be a good feeling once you get in the car and you realize that.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Sometimes it takes a really long time to realize it, though. Oh, I, like, I have. I have one memory of a person I know very well. Name them. Can you hear it? With my thoughts? I'm saying it. Wait, do you watch Real Housewives?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yes. Yeah, I was wondering if you'd get the reference. Well, because I didn't cast it.

[Sarah Sherman]

If not, I was afraid that you were gonna say, name them, and then I was gonna say, name them, and then you're gonna be like, oh, what are you doing?

[Steven O'Malley]

No, we're both doing something. She's gotten better.

[Sarah Sherman]

She. You know what? Just when I thought I was out, she pulls me back.

[Steven O'Malley]

She pulled me right back in. And she's like, fucking smoking hot all of a sudden.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know. Did you hear that Lisa? Rinna in her book was like, her body's weird and it's like, about sons.

[Steven O'Malley]

Jesus. Lisa.

[Sarah Sherman]

Lisa. It's like, listen, we. We have eyes. We.

[Steven O'Malley]

She just had to put a dependent paper on that one. She's like, I just, you know, in my memoir, I really want to add this in.

[Sarah Sherman]

And there's like a Simon Schuster editor going, uh huh. Check.

[Steven O'Malley]

This is good. You just spelled body wrong.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, I wish I had Sutton's legs.

[Steven O'Malley]

Boots down. Absolutely.

[Sarah Sherman]

They're perfect. Little, tiny, little toothpick legs.

[Steven O'Malley]

She's got it coming on. She.

[Sarah Sherman]

You were right. Do you like Amanda?

[Steven O'Malley]

No, I was trying to ask you the same thing. I'm a. I can't believe how insane she is.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm so addicted to her.

[Steven O'Malley]

I need her to stay on forever, though. Well, so this is what was going on in Beverly Hills. Real Housewives. What's going on with them is they're worried that they're gonna get their season canceled because they saw it with New York, right. And so they're making drama out of nothing, especially no Amanda. She's. She's just drama walking. But Kyle, she's instigating. That doesn't even matter for all of a sudden, out of nowhere. Kyle was my favorite at one point.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's.

[Steven O'Malley]

She's out of her mind.

[Sarah Sherman]

How. How? Talk about weed. Sober. She's altogether sober. And listen, I don't like drinking. I don't like drugs. Sometimes I don't like it. But I need my housewives to be

[Steven O'Malley]

f. Oh, my God.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, I Need them to be blackout on camera saying, like, my favorite housewife of all time is Ramona Singer. Now, has she said and done things that are basically beyond reproach and she should be in jail? Yes. But that's why I like watching her.

[Steven O'Malley]

She parties in Palm Beach. So there it is. I mean, I don't know why all these people are so surprised. Also, the rugs lady, Jill Zarin. Jill Zarin. Jill Zarin really fucked up with the fucking bonito shit, man. She's hammered, like, in another room, and Trump's in the other room, and she's like, yeah, everybody. She's hoping someone hears her.

[Sarah Sherman]

Why? Why? Why did. Are people forgetting who these people are? They're bad people.

[Steven O'Malley]

They're New York socialites. Yes. Who run Palm beach in the wintertime and come back when it's nice to go to the Hamptons.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes.

[Steven O'Malley]

Like, they're not even. They don't even live here. Yes.

[Sarah Sherman]

Who do we think these women were? They're not good. They were friend. They. They were probably in the files for sure.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, has anyone even tried that yet? Look, if they have, who's.

[Sarah Sherman]

This is Ramona Singer or Nora's got

[Steven O'Malley]

his on a look up real quick.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, is Bethany Franklin the files now?

[Steven O'Malley]

No, it's Carol.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, Carol Radziwill's author portrait for her book about her grieving. Her husband, late husband was taken by Ghislaine Maxwell.

[Steven O'Malley]

No way.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, wow. Well, everyone is all connected.

[Sarah Sherman]

Everyone's something.

[Steven O'Malley]

So what are your ties? Let's.

[Sarah Sherman]

I did I search my name in the file. Search Sarah Sherman and the Jeffrey in the Epstein files. My name comes up like a hundred times. A lawyer assistant. Someone's assistant was Sarah Sherman because I

[Steven O'Malley]

typed in my father's name just as like family jokes to send in the group chat. And I typed my dad's name and a lawyer came. Came up. Yep, yep.

[Sarah Sherman]

There.

[Steven O'Malley]

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[Sarah Sherman]

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[Sarah Sherman]

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[Sarah Sherman]

Do you remember when you first got like a Facebook or like a MySpace and you would link with someone who had your same name?

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, my God. And I had people hit me up just saying, hello, namesake. Oh, I was like, that was on Twitter. I didn't like that one.

[Sarah Sherman]

You're talking. Speaking of adults, you should be talking to children. Fucking creepy namesake.

[Steven O'Malley]

Did you keep in touch with these? Sarah Chairman.

[Sarah Sherman]

There was one. I wonder if she would even know that I exist. But there was one there. I'm pretty sure she's like a supermodel. She looks amazing.

[Steven O'Malley]

I think you guys need to like.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know. Hey, Sarah Sherman. What's up? Remember when we did, like, name twinning?

[Steven O'Malley]

Did you like, hit each other up?

[Sarah Sherman]

I just like, remember, I don't know, like, what social media would have been at the time because I'm 18, so probably just Snapchat.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, Snapchat. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Well, I remember we both were like, someone followed each other and it was like.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's just like an understanding. It's like.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's like the Jeep. Like, yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Like, I definitely should not have had Facebook as a kid because I would add anybody. Oh, anybody.

[Sarah Sherman]

I had. Okay. How much do I say? I went to a store.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

In the New York City area.

[Steven O'Malley]

Gotcha.

[Sarah Sherman]

A guy working at the store comes up to me and is like, oh, my God. You might not remember this, but we went to summer camp together.

[Steven O'Malley]

No way.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I'm like, oh, my God. Name. Not saying. I'm not saying the name. I was like, he was the love of my life.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, my gosh.

[Sarah Sherman]

I, like, was so in love with him. And it was when we had instant messenger. AI.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, AI. What was your. What was your handle?

[Sarah Sherman]

Sarah? Fabulous.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, I love it.

[Sarah Sherman]

What was yours?

[Steven O'Malley]

Actress at here 198.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

Because heart didn't fit, period.

[Sarah Sherman]

Thank you. That's. That's period. And what was your away message?

[Steven O'Malley]

Let me know if you have a crush on me, probably.

[Sarah Sherman]

What was your picture?

[Steven O'Malley]

I. Picture. I can't think that far back.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

I don't know.

[Sarah Sherman]

Seeing. I'm seeing for myself. I feel like I had a pink star that was sparkly.

[Steven O'Malley]

That checks.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, I think.

[Sarah Sherman]

Fabulous.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's probably something around that as well.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. I. So he was like, oh, my God, you probably don't remember me, but, like, we went summer camp together. And I was like. How do I say? I don't think I said this. I was. I wanted to be like, oh, my God. I was, like, fucking in love with.

[Steven O'Malley]

I would word vomit it.

[Sarah Sherman]

I was like, oh, my God, whatever. Like. And then I said to him, okay, so I. I was in love with him.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I was like. I was like a fugly freak. And all the girls were, like, obsessed with him because he was a kind of, like, skater rocker.

[Steven O'Malley]

What were you like as a kid? Just to pivot real quick. Sorry.

[Sarah Sherman]

Just like a mute.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm so curious.

[Sarah Sherman]

Just like a. Like, annoying.

[Steven O'Malley]

Annoying.

[Sarah Sherman]

Annoying. Like mutant. Like, I looked like this, but, like, zero swag.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay. Well, at least we got swag.

[Sarah Sherman]

I mean, one would hope. One would hope.

[Steven O'Malley]

You walking around annoying as.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

And just no swag at all.

[Sarah Sherman]

No swag. Like, wearing my clothes were. I was, like, obsessed with the costume closet at the theater department at my school. So I was. And the Miss Orange who ran the costume department.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's a perfect name for that.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

As it sounds written, of course, she

[Sarah Sherman]

would let me, like, borrow, like, Victorian hoop skirts, and I'd be like, hey,

[Steven O'Malley]

oh, yeah, you are annoying as Victorian hoop skirts.

[Sarah Sherman]

Just like. Or like, what else was.

[Steven O'Malley]

I was looking for a visual and I. I feel like with a T

[Sarah Sherman]

shirt, like, Courtney loves that Courtney Love style. They make, like, a crazy, like, necklace.

[Steven O'Malley]

You're making, like, Courtney Love references. Everyone's like, what are you talking about?

[Sarah Sherman]

It was, like, truly disgusting. And this would have been like, like, summer camp. I would have been, like, 12, like, last year.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

And, like, I had. So I was in love with him. All the girls, because he was rocker and I was, like, in love with him. And I would, like, message him like, hey. And then he would find out it was me and.

[Steven O'Malley]

Because you were using a burner.

[Sarah Sherman]

No. Well, so he. He would be like. I would be like, hey. And he would find. And then he didn't want to talk to Me, because I was a loser. So I was like, hey. And he was like. So he blocked me. And then I made a new account. And I was like, hey. And he was like, what? And then he found it was me and would block me and I would make a new account.

[Steven O'Malley]

You're the reason I couldn't have access at heart.

[Sarah Sherman]

Exactly.

[Steven O'Malley]

Because I have so many accounts.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. Fudgeing. Well, by the way, you would diagnose this behavior as, like, stalk, schizophrenic, stalker.

[Steven O'Malley]

I don't know.

[Sarah Sherman]

I've done.

[Steven O'Malley]

I've done kind of worse. I'm with you. I was on the same and sponsored by Unwell, thank you very much.

[Sarah Sherman]

So I. And I remember his screen name.

[Steven O'Malley]

What was it? It was like, say it to a store. Yes, I did. Oh, my God.

[Sarah Sherman]

Because I was like, oh, my God. He was like, worse than saying I

[Steven O'Malley]

had a huge, giant crush on you.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know. Well, he was like, because I didn't want to.

[Steven O'Malley]

Sorry I ruined your punch. No, you didn't.

[Sarah Sherman]

Because it was like, if I said, like, oh, my God, I have a huge crush on you. Like. But what I said was, like, I couldn't say, like, oh, you blocked me 10 times because I was stalking you. But I was like, oh, my God. Like, your screen name was like, that Red Hot Chili Pepper lyric. I said this. I said this.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's a grown adult.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, it's a grown adult. Maybe a month ago.

[Steven O'Malley]

And he was like, truly full circle.

[Sarah Sherman]

It wasn't. And I was like, I. Well, I couldn't say, like, no, I know it was because I stalked you.

[Steven O'Malley]

Do you want me to pull up 15 accounts where I've messaged you many a time? Did you have the wrong guy?

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm.

[Steven O'Malley]

No, no, no, no. God, no.

[Sarah Sherman]

But if you're watching this.

[Steven O'Malley]

Was he a member of the band?

[Sarah Sherman]

He was not a member of the band. But at 13 years old, I would have appreciated that. I would appreciate it at the time. And he was just like, yeah, no, that wasn't my screen. And I was like, oh, okay. And then he was like, oh, I have to go back to work. And I was like, bye. And then I, like, immediately said to, like, one of his co workers, I was like, I. I was in love with him.

[Steven O'Malley]

You just had to get it off your chest.

[Sarah Sherman]

And then I had to get it. And.

[Steven O'Malley]

And I was like, you're getting choked up.

[Sarah Sherman]

Just. I know, I know. Literally.

[Steven O'Malley]

Did he have a wedding ring?

[Sarah Sherman]

No, he didn't. See. Ah, no. I mean, I basically do at this point. Not wearing one but like, imagine I do. And like, so I said to the girl, I was like, oh my God, I was like in love with him. And he like thought I was such a fudgeing loser. And he was like, oh, really? Like, he said you guys were like friends. And I was like, no, he actively like, was like, don't talk to me, you're a loser.

[Steven O'Malley]

And. And that is the best story I think I've ever heard. Yeah, because they always come fucking back around. Fucking asshole.

[Sarah Sherman]

I was so. I was like this point of like being a tweenager where I was like,

[Steven O'Malley]

oh my God. I know. It's like a visceral scream.

[Sarah Sherman]

Hot. And he was skater.

[Steven O'Malley]

And for him to never have. Like, guys just don't outgrow that. No, because he's running around the store saying, yeah, we were tight. And then you say something. He's like, uh, fucking wrongo.

[Sarah Sherman]

But it was a Red Hot Chili Peppers lyric.

[Steven O'Malley]

I know you're not wrong. You might be crazy, but you're not wrong. I know. Maybe he didn't remember his own screen name.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, he remembers.

[Steven O'Malley]

I feel like he remembers. Oh, I don't know. Us ladies, we remember it because it was so near and dear to our hearts. It took us forever to come up with it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, I be remembering, but I stayed remembering that shit.

[Steven O'Malley]

The fellas, I don't know if they do. I don't know. I'm pretty sure it was just Steven, right? It's Steven.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, I guess I'm a fucking.

[Steven O'Malley]

Its Steven.

[Sarah Sherman]

Eat a gun now. Fucking. Yeah, and jump off the Empire State building.

[Steven O'Malley]

But you shouldn't, because again, he's acting one way towards you at the store.

[Sarah Sherman]

But he was being very nice.

[Steven O'Malley]

Doesn't really fucking sound like it. Yeah, that was not my name.

[Sarah Sherman]

I like, there are so many. Have you like made contact with all the boys you were in love with in high school?

[Steven O'Malley]

No. Still petrified.

[Sarah Sherman]

Totally.

[Steven O'Malley]

They still would shit on me to my face.

[Sarah Sherman]

Totally.

[Steven O'Malley]

I am so scarred from that that. This weekend I had a show and I thought I heard someone yell something out. And it was like a good looking dude with his girlfriend and he was laughing with this other boy sitting next to him. Two handsome fellas with their girlfriends. I thought they yelled out something. I go, do you just fucking say something? He goes, oh, I just laughed, right? And I was like, yeah, I got some shit.

[Sarah Sherman]

I gotta work out.

[Steven O'Malley]

I got some. Cause I thought he was shitting on me.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I'm like, you heard a laugh? Laugh you. What was a laugh you heard is like someone saying, you should go to Jungian dream analysis girl. No.

[Steven O'Malley]

No. What is this?

[Sarah Sherman]

It's just. It'll. It'll. Well, it'll just make you crazier. I was gonna say it'll get your.

[Steven O'Malley]

Right.

[Sarah Sherman]

It won't.

[Steven O'Malley]

No. I think that's gonna get me a little more twisted.

[Sarah Sherman]

My crushes. I said, this is, like, symptoms. I. I. My biggest. One of my biggest high school crushes. I said, well, I'm not gonna say it.

[Steven O'Malley]

Come on. What the hell?

[Sarah Sherman]

And I said on his. I said on. I said his full first and last name on Stop. Stop's coming up a lot today.

[Steven O'Malley]

You've been hanging. He's drugging you.

[Sarah Sherman]

He's drugging you.

[Steven O'Malley]

He's making you say all these things on a pod.

[Sarah Sherman]

I said his first and last name on Stav's podcast, and he texted me, and I. I was talking about this memory. See, this is where I'm, like, in the wrong. I think, on every memory that I have, because I said on a. On Stops podcast, the first and last name of this guy I had a crush on when I was 16. And I said, he drove me in his convertible. And when I got off the convertible seat, I had left, like, an ass, Swamp ass and puddle, and I was like, humiliated. And then.

[Steven O'Malley]

Is this where your joke stems from? From your.

[Sarah Sherman]

Of course. Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

So thank you for that, sir.

[Sarah Sherman]

Thank you. And she's doing her research. No, I noticed.

[Steven O'Malley]

I don't know.

[Sarah Sherman]

Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

Of course.

[Sarah Sherman]

Professional.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm not a fucking dick.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, people don't be.

[Steven O'Malley]

I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Sarah Sherman]

And he texted me. He was like, I didn't have a convertible.

[Steven O'Malley]

And I was like, also, what do you mean this is such a permanent, like, memory in your life, a convertible. It makes it a big factor.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know, but I feel like he did. But also, it's like all these boys from my tweeny. All my tween age crushes are, like, telling me I'm misremembering stuff. So maybe there is something I. Maybe I am wrong with my memories.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yeah, that could be the. Yeah, because you're two for two already on both memories. You just changed.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know, I know.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. No, that could be because that's. Yeah, that's a pretty. It's an important detail for that story.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's such a. It was such a convertible in my memory because he was like. Well, in the convertible.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm like, shut the fuck up. I spilled water. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's like a Gatorade.

[Steven O'Malley]

It is sick. That they're. They're coming. Coming to though.

[Sarah Sherman]

They're coming through.

[Steven O'Malley]

Because it's healing your teenager.

[Sarah Sherman]

It is.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. I think, I think a lot of girls need that.

[Sarah Sherman]

And it's not like he was the, the. The almost said the store. It's not like the guy at the store was being an ass necessarily. When he's being like, no, we're friends. It's like he is trying to heal that wound.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's not that I was the loser and he didn't want to talk to me with a ten foot pole. Actually, you know what? We were cool.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm trying to be on your side here. And it's just like, you're not fixing the theory of women are crazy.

[Sarah Sherman]

I had at the same summer camp. It was like all the hot girls being.

[Steven O'Malley]

Where was yours? Like upstate Long Island.

[Sarah Sherman]

Everything on Long Island. And like, it was this weird thing of the summer camp where there was like, there was. It was a summer camp for kid, you know, whatever. And then I went to the part of the summer camp that was like a science camp. What?

[Steven O'Malley]

So I thought you're gonna say theater.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. I don't know. I know. Me too.

[Steven O'Malley]

Were you doing the pick me thing?

[Sarah Sherman]

No, I was like literally being like, you get to dissect a squid. Oh, hell yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, that's. That's right.

[Sarah Sherman]

Would have been like, go to the part of the camp that's like, cool.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Go do sports.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. So like all the cool kids would be like, yeah, like doing this camp up.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I'd be inside all. They were like swimming.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, and you were inside gloves.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Dissecting like an owl pellet. And then I knew the cool girl, my friend, who I'm still actually friends with to this day. Hey, Alexa.

[Steven O'Malley]

I was hoping you'd say her name.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, no, say her name. Hey, Alexa, what's good shout outs for

[Steven O'Malley]

shout out to do what we do. We do this thing actually, if you want to look right into this camera, we do rapid fire shout outs to just about anyone you want for the next however long.

[Sarah Sherman]

Hi, Alexa. Hi, Dan. Hi, mom. Hi, Jack. So.

[Steven O'Malley]

Thank you.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, cool.

[Steven O'Malley]

I like to give credit where credit's too. I like that.

[Sarah Sherman]

I like that. That's nice. She was like. I was friends. She was like, cool. And I was friends with her somehow. And so like I would, after I take the goggles off after a long day at science camp, and we would meet up for lunch and I'd be like, how's your day? And she'd be like, yeah, like, whatever. Like, you went to the pool, and

[Steven O'Malley]

they're like, well made up. She's Lola from Big Mouth.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like, slobbering all over, like, rock climbed. It was like, no big deal. And I'd be like, he. Like, I found out you can make a lava lamp.

[Steven O'Malley]

We did that.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, my God. You're.

[Steven O'Malley]

You're. You're healing your inner child. I. Every room you walk into, really, really am.

[Sarah Sherman]

And at the. I remember at the lunch table, okay, we played this game where, like, you're at the table eating lunch, and then you, like, look over, and then there's, like, the boys are eating lunch at the table, and. And so you go, like, okay, you get with her. I mean, like, you're gonna get with him. And then you're. I'm gonna get with him. And then we were. They were playing this game, like, all the girls at this table. And it was like, the hot guy that I saw, like, okay.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, the one that you saw at the store?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

I thought you meant just the hot guy at camp, but I'm like, yeah, there's always one.

[Sarah Sherman]

Was the hot guy. I feel like. And they were like. And then there was, like, the musician guy, and they're like, okay, like, well, she's gonna get with him. And then when it came down to, like, who I was gonna get paired with, it was like, really?

[Steven O'Malley]

It's never good. It's never.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, it was really up.

[Steven O'Malley]

I was always that friend, man. I know. You don't have to. I picture it. I see it. And then you just kind of go back to science, and you're just like, I did.

[Sarah Sherman]

Then I went back inside for the rest of my science camp, and I learned a magic.

[Steven O'Malley]

You learned magic because science is magic.

[Sarah Sherman]

There was a lot. I get him uncovering a lot. This is good magic. Al, the local Long island magician, came to science camp and taught us how to do magic tricks. And I held a dove.

[Steven O'Malley]

Wow.

[Sarah Sherman]

Isn't that cool? That is cool. They were all rock climbing, and I

[Steven O'Malley]

was doing magic tricks.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, that's gloves on and beakers, dissecting a squid. They have a long piece of cartilage on their head.

[Steven O'Malley]

Sure is something I remember. Yeah, you remember. See, that's the. You remember because it's science and it's fact.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

You don't forget those.

[Sarah Sherman]

No.

[Steven O'Malley]

And I.

[Sarah Sherman]

Science fact. I remember his screen name was a Red Hot Chili Cup. I remember.

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[Steven O'Malley]

Honestly, I wish I got to go to camp. I did day camp.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's what I did.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, you did? Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, because I went to. I tried the sleepaway camp and they were like, the girls were too mean and like slutty.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yeah. No, that's what I was talking about with this making up with each other thing. I've heard the stories.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yep.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, it's. It's a. It's. It's shocking those kids don't get pregnant. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

The way they're. They're sneaking around. Holy.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm sure they are.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm sure they are.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was lawless.

[Steven O'Malley]

It is. Sounds lawless. It's kind of sick. Well, that was another thing I did at my camp. I would hang out with the counselors.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

I would like, be like, I would have like another kid on a leash and like, relax, dude. We're trying to chill with theater camp. I did do theater camp. I've said it a lot on this. But my theater camp ended up being. It was an after school program and I actually. And it ended up being for special needs kids. Right.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. I am just dipping my toes back into acting. Took some years to get back from that. Yeah. But. Yeah, no.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

My mom said you're never going back. I was the best one there, I would hope. Yeah. It would be a fucking damn shame if I wasn't.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, that was. That was something. That was. Yeah. My mom would sign us up for weird shit like, like sailing lessons, but they didn't have enough boats.

[Sarah Sherman]

My I. In my town on Long island, there would be these, like. I always wanted to like, be a comedian or whatever and be doing acting.

[Steven O'Malley]

She's always willing to do that damn act.

[Sarah Sherman]

Hell, ain't it the Breaks, kids or whatever.

[Steven O'Malley]

These are the breaks. I've been saying that lately.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's a thing, right?

[Steven O'Malley]

These are the breaks. It's a. It's a rap song.

[Sarah Sherman]

There you go. That's what I mean. And there was like flyers for a play put on by the jcc. It was Pinocchio. And I was like, mom, please let me audition, please. And my parents wouldn't let me do community theater because they were like, then pedophiles can find you. Oh, isn't that interesting?

[Steven O'Malley]

I never really thought of it like that.

[Sarah Sherman]

They were on to the like Nickelodeon pedophile ring like before.

[Steven O'Malley]

Way before. Oh, yeah. My.

[Sarah Sherman]

My parents were like, we don't want you like on like prancing around so someone could like kidnap you and be like a pedophile towards you.

[Steven O'Malley]

Wow. And they said that to you?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. I knew about pedophiles very early.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay. Were they very prominent in your town? We had one guy, Skittles Nor laughs. Cause it's a real guy.

[Sarah Sherman]

You know about this guy?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, he lives in the house across from Walgreens, right?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, we had capturing the Freedmans. You remember that documentary?

[Steven O'Malley]

No, that.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was a pedophile documentary that happened near my house.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, God. Well, wait, there's a bunch of them.

[Sarah Sherman]

I actually can think of another pedophile. Gary.

[Steven O'Malley]

Gary the clown.

[Sarah Sherman]

Taxi driver. He was an illegal taxi driver.

[Steven O'Malley]

Illegal, huh? Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

You would just. You just drive kids around.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, I don't like that.

[Sarah Sherman]

Well, that's why I'm saying pedophile. But I.

[Steven O'Malley]

He had ill intent.

[Sarah Sherman]

Why is he driving kids around for free?

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, it's like the first rule of thumb they teach you as a child. Do not get in a car with Gary.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right, right, right. And if you're listening, Gary shouts out, yeah, like, if you're not a pedophile, like, it's all good.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. That's got to be tough for Gary. It doesn't look good.

[Sarah Sherman]

No.

[Steven O'Malley]

So you know what? I'm gonna. I would put him in the box of pedophile. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Skittles.

[Steven O'Malley]

Skittles.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, Wordy.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm pretty sure he was offering up skittles. He might not even be a pedophile either.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know, but that's the thing. Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's like once the.

[Sarah Sherman]

The local legend stuff comes out, it's kind of like sounds like a pedophile me.

[Steven O'Malley]

What was the craziest thing that happened in your town? Like, drama wise. Because this always gets good. Oh, we had want to start asking this at my shows because people have

[Sarah Sherman]

such niche we had thong gate and we also had blowjob webcam gate.

[Steven O'Malley]

I can't wait to hear both.

[Sarah Sherman]

And they were both. There was a school assembly where it was like, hey, guys, middle school, we have two things to address. One is because the. The pants that were popular at the time were the solo sweatpants with the yoga pants that have the top folds over.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yeah. Victoria's Secret, baby.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was our Long island brand. Was called solo.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, that's what it was called. I thought you meant you just. Oh, so low.

[Sarah Sherman]

And you would like, you know, your would be out.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

And so the, the style was the whale tail in the back.

[Steven O'Malley]

Nice.

[Sarah Sherman]

The solo or hardtail fold over. This is like a look that's kind of coming back.

[Steven O'Malley]

It is, it is.

[Sarah Sherman]

You know.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, it never left. It's right now because.

[Sarah Sherman]

Because I'm 15.

[Steven O'Malley]

You signed the waiver to. Come on.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right? Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Okay. And then. And you. Yeah, and you're.

[Steven O'Malley]

Good guy. Good guy. No skittles, nothing. Yeah, yeah. I promise.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right. You're not going to groom me?

[Steven O'Malley]

No.

[Sarah Sherman]

Just imagine, right?

[Steven O'Malley]

Too busy for kids.

[Sarah Sherman]

The matt. Like a middle school assembly, the principal being like, guys, no more thongs.

[Steven O'Malley]

How do you not laugh?

[Sarah Sherman]

You have to laugh. And then the second part of the school assembly was like. And guys, no more webcams. Because this is when webcams first became a thing. And like, so the girls were like video chatting with the boys from another school and giving blowjobs on webcam.

[Steven O'Malley]

Now how the hell. Right. Does that satisfy that boy from next door?

[Sarah Sherman]

Right? Right. I think it's safe to say this was child pornography at the time.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, I guess so. And I guess I shouldn't really go into depth about it, but it is interesting.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's interesting.

[Steven O'Malley]

I didn't know. It's funny that it got to be such a problem that there was so many young ladies, Right. Putting their mouth to cam.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

They were performing and they were actresses.

[Sarah Sherman]

They were actresses. And we have to respect. We have the respect.

[Steven O'Malley]

And the guys who are just on the back going, I don't know, man. It's just what it is. I didn't know what a blow job was.

[Sarah Sherman]

I wonder when you find out what a blow job is.

[Steven O'Malley]

I found. We were. We were all. We were playing. You ever play manhunt? They call it different things in different places. Maybe it's like two teams and the other team goes out to find the people and you play within, like a neighborhood. Oh, kinda.

[Sarah Sherman]

Okay. Kind of. Yeah. It's not a scavenger Hunt.

[Steven O'Malley]

We would just say we were gonna play that on a Friday, but we ended up playing truth or dare, Right? That was, like, the game plan, right? And we're walking around. We stopped playing. We're walking around the neighborhood, and someone pointed to the window and goes, oh, my God, that lady's getting a. That lady's giving a blowjob. And I just pictured a fish, right? And I couldn't see anything because everyone was like. Everyone was in front of me, and I was like, right? And I just, like, walked around the rest of the night, and they were

[Sarah Sherman]

all like, blue girl, you missed them. I was like, fish.

[Steven O'Malley]

They had fish for dinner.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I couldn't believe it. Would know.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, I didn't know, actually.

[Sarah Sherman]

We had, like, a. I was not cool enough to be a part of this, but I remember my high school did. There was like, a. The popular. Like, the seniors or something they did

[Steven O'Malley]

you almost say popular teens.

[Sarah Sherman]

The popular teens.

[Steven O'Malley]

The popular teens.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I hope they like me. They had. It was like a scavenger hunt, but

[Steven O'Malley]

it was like a.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like a. Like, dirty scavenger hunt. It was like a weird tradition in my high school where it'd be like, okay, like, go to this gas station and like. Like. Like a shotgun four Loco. And then go to this. What. Whatever place and then do this. And one of the scavenger hunt things was blowjobs.

[Steven O'Malley]

What?

[Sarah Sherman]

It was like, you go there and you have to give someone a blowjob.

[Steven O'Malley]

Wow. And I think I know who set this up. I know.

[Sarah Sherman]

And there's a guy, and one of the things. Skittles. And one of the things was like, oh, you have to get a tattoo that says, like, scavenger hunt. 20. Whatever. 20. Well, I'm 18.

[Steven O'Malley]

What was last year? 20.

[Sarah Sherman]

25. So there's a guy walking around now with a tattoo on his ankle. And I know who it is. I'm not going to say his name. Oh, my God. Is he with us?

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, you know what? I'm not going to lie. And I can say it. I probably. You cannot. But that sounds like a man who's no longer with us.

[Sarah Sherman]

He might not be with us.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's. That's a. That's a monster drinking. Who knows his own rights.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

For sure.

[Sarah Sherman]

I think he's the one.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. That's got to be the opioid crisis, something.

[Sarah Sherman]

He did have a tattoo that said scavenger hunt. You're blurred out.

[Steven O'Malley]

Open casket. Can still see it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, just. That's.

[Steven O'Malley]

I. That's where my mind Went.

[Sarah Sherman]

Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's just.

[Sarah Sherman]

Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, and he still. He still. He kept the tattoo.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

God bless.

[Sarah Sherman]

There was, I guess, like, there was, like, stuff going on in my high school.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Sarah Sherman]

I was not. I was not invited to any of it.

[Steven O'Malley]

But you got the best seat in the house.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, I got to see the tattoo. Yeah, I was like, close enough where I got to see the tattoo, but I wasn't, like, invited to the blow job.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, but you don't want to have to give and get tattoo. You just want to be able to, like, kind of on Monday be like, you guys are nuts. Let me see that tattoo.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like, what's a blow job?

[Steven O'Malley]

Also, are you guys coming to the play this year or what? We need more. Again.

[Sarah Sherman]

I don't have a part in the play. I am a background actor behind a scrim. But still, please come.

[Steven O'Malley]

You. They. They. I know. Puts baby in the corner. Are you serious?

[Sarah Sherman]

I never got roles.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's crazy. Did you. Did you make superlatives?

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, we didn't have those. Did you have that?

[Steven O'Malley]

It's. It's something we did, like, way back when in, like, the 80s. But they don't do that anymore. Right.

[Sarah Sherman]

Were you class clown?

[Steven O'Malley]

No, I lost to somebody who. Sorry. Another thing that pisses me off. I lost to someone who dropped out, which I just don't think is very fair.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's cheating.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's just not fair at all.

[Sarah Sherman]

What was the crazy thing that happened in your town down?

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, it varies between. We found out everybody was sleeping together. The parents. The parents were all sleeping together.

[Sarah Sherman]

Wait, did you style high school too? And it was a whole thing.

[Steven O'Malley]

It was a whole thing, whole thing to the point where I. That's as far as I can go.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right, right, right, right, right. Damn, that's good.

[Steven O'Malley]

It was pretty nuts, man.

[Sarah Sherman]

Did you guys see that documentary that was, like, about the. The meaning texter?

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, the mother. Yes.

[Sarah Sherman]

Was it like that level of, like, crazy?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, that kind of shit went on.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Like, for sure. I just feel like everyone's got their. Like, I'm trying to think of other niche things.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know. Me too. I mean, well, like, we had the classic thing like, don't go on that road because that's. Or don't speed down that road because the kid's head got chopped off there from, like, sticking his head out the window in the bus. Doesn't everyone have a bus story like that? No.

[Steven O'Malley]

I think you guys need new drivers. Yeah, my mom's a school bus driver. She would never allow that your mom

[Sarah Sherman]

was a school bus driver.

[Steven O'Malley]

All American, baby.

[Sarah Sherman]

Let's go.

[Steven O'Malley]

Hell, yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Let's go. What was. I feel like there. There has to be, like, a famous thing for my town.

[Steven O'Malley]

We had a fan. Phantom pooper. Where would you poop at Pembroke? There was. Before the. Before we got there. And like, one year while I was there, there was a phantom pooper.

[Sarah Sherman]

The seniors used to slap red paint.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yeah. Before I got to this school. So I moved schools in high school, and my mom, on the way to my last day of the town I lived in my whole life. On my way there, she dropped me off and I go, I just don't want to go, like, this is my last day. This sucks. And she goes, well, just think, you get to do your freshman year all over again. I'm like, what fucking kid wants to do that? So then I went to this other school, and they had all these crazy things going on the spirit Day, you weren't allowed to use paint because the seniors used to take the paint and smack people's asses with it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right, right.

[Steven O'Malley]

So I wore paint one year, and you got to go home.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

So that was the hack. Right? That was awesome.

[Sarah Sherman]

Or gym hack. Can't do gym on my period.

[Steven O'Malley]

And that only flies with the guy.

[Sarah Sherman]

It only flies with the guy because

[Steven O'Malley]

that butch woman, she's not. She sees right through that. She's fucking. She'll tell you to man up. And she did.

[Sarah Sherman]

And she did.

[Steven O'Malley]

And she did. And that's why I made JV and not senior or whatever. Varsity. See, I don't even know that one. Doesn't hurt as much. I never really wanted to play in all of it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Pretty much, I was gonna, like. I was gonna, like, clock your ass and be like, what? Field hockey.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, see? Yeah. No, no, Wrong. Oh, that's that one over there.

[Sarah Sherman]

Field hockey. Wow.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's a real sport.

[Sarah Sherman]

That is.

[Steven O'Malley]

I don't get it. I don't think it is. I'm being honest. I don't. I was saying it to her the other day. She. She had a lot of fun doing it, but I don't get the sport at all. These girls, their backs, they're breaking the sticks. Not long enough. They look stupid. It's so sad.

[Sarah Sherman]

A heated rivalry, but for field hockey could be something.

[Steven O'Malley]

They're open about it. Yeah. That's women. That they'll be. They'll figure it out.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's true. That's true.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's like softball, field hockey.

[Sarah Sherman]

We had out lesbians in my field hockey team.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. And they were probably the captains.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Steven O'Malley]

Did you do sports?

[Sarah Sherman]

I did.

[Steven O'Malley]

You did?

[Sarah Sherman]

I did.

[Steven O'Malley]

What you do.

[Sarah Sherman]

So I ran track. What the. I know. Can you still run a kind of.

[Steven O'Malley]

Are you like, hairy running to work?

[Sarah Sherman]

Ah, that's kind of ridiculous. Kind of fabulosity.

[Steven O'Malley]

I think it's awesome. I'm a huge fan of his and I think it's the coolest thing that you get to chill with him and. But please remember me.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like, he smelled.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, I don't think he would.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know he has.

[Steven O'Malley]

He has the shots.

[Sarah Sherman]

Shots.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm sure there's some kind of shots where you don't have to smell anymore.

[Sarah Sherman]

He seems so put together,

[Steven O'Malley]

like.

[Sarah Sherman]

But there's foot. There's video evidence of him running.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's what they say.

[Sarah Sherman]

Where do these come from?

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, did. Oh, Harry. The poor bastard. He's on an episode of Black Mirror.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's just every single day I open TikTok and it's like, I saw Harry on my walk and then. And then he scrolled past me. I also saw Harry on my walk and it's like three different angles and he's just like.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like, I would. Every time I see, like a paparazzi photo of him, I'm like, honestly, like, I'm offended. I'm not like, in the picture with him.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like, why aren't you asking me to, like, hang out?

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, you're in the city.

[Sarah Sherman]

Like, why don't you ask me to hang out or whatever? We've never spoken.

[Steven O'Malley]

Not even at, like, the little Dennis.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, he's really nice. He's really nice. That's what's, like, crazy about, like a. If I was a pop star, you think I would be nice for one second I'd be like, I'm tired. I'm tired.

[Steven O'Malley]

What?

[Sarah Sherman]

I have to sing and dance at the same time. I'm tired.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, that's singing, dancing, acting. Yeah. He does it all.

[Sarah Sherman]

And he looks good.

[Steven O'Malley]

And he looks good doing it. I didn't want to make this whole episode about your occupation.

[Sarah Sherman]

Sure.

[Steven O'Malley]

But have. Speaking of the crush thing.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Have you ever had, like a celebrity crush? Come on. And you kind of lose it.

[Sarah Sherman]

I am not going to say the name.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's fine. That's fine. Because I just. I always think about it, like, I would lose it. You have to do your job.

[Sarah Sherman]

And it's like, it's crazy. I had. So I've. I've had a long term relationship for a very long time. And like, the man with a Man, suck it.

[Steven O'Malley]

The girls try to turn you after your shows.

[Sarah Sherman]

You know what? I think I, like, spend the whole show being like, I'm not gay.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay. Yeah. I gotta do that more, I guess.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. You get. I have, like, one also, like, the gays know I'm straight.

[Steven O'Malley]

They can tell. They know.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, wow.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

Interesting. Quite interesting. You have to. You have to keep. You have to kick them off you. Ladies, ladies, ladies.

[Steven O'Malley]

When it comes to ladies, I'm a killer. But men, not so much.

[Sarah Sherman]

Not what I'm looking for.

[Steven O'Malley]

I was like. I just tell them I'm not ready yet.

[Sarah Sherman]

All right.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm not ready yet.

[Sarah Sherman]

Please take a number. Line up.

[Steven O'Malley]

But they're like, come on. We see it in you. So quite the opposite. They're like, we see. See it. And you just come here.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

I just. I'm not ready.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

But you crush.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, yeah. So, like, I think kind of, like, jokingly, like, in the rel, we're like, okay. Like, I have my hall pass or whatever. Like, this was before I was on tv.

[Steven O'Malley]

So I was like, okay, so I think you should revisit that.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. I was like, okay, I have my hall pass. Like, lol. And he has his hall pass. Lol. And then I meet my hall pass, and I was like, oh, not as cool in real life.

[Steven O'Malley]

And that's the bummer.

[Sarah Sherman]

They all.

[Steven O'Malley]

I feel like that happens more often than you think.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

And there's something about, I think. Because I don't know if you feel this way, but it's like, I'm a comedian, I'm perform or whatever. I find it very unattractive when someone else is what I am.

[Steven O'Malley]

I. I haven't got over that hump yet.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

It's all still pretty new to me.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right. Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

I've got. I've definitely got my crushes. But you did just kind of give a little. Little bit of a hinty. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

This guy was at snl and he

[Steven O'Malley]

might be a comedian. No, there's not that many male comedians out there.

[Sarah Sherman]

So, no, he's not a comedian.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

But he. He did come into the building where SNL is, and that's. Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

And then. And then tried doing the thing that you do so well and couldn't do it. Right.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, totally perfect. Hilarious. Amazing.

[Steven O'Malley]

Okay.

[Sarah Sherman]

I just. I'm like, oh. Like, in real life, it's not the same.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's fair.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, that's fair. Me being so cagey is not.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, no, I totally. I see. I'm trying to. I'm trying to find a way to get out of this. I'm like.

[Sarah Sherman]

I won't even like, give like a hint of a vibe.

[Steven O'Malley]

No. Yeah. You don't wanna. You can't be.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm just like, ew. This person needs attention like, as badly as I do. It's like not hot.

[Steven O'Malley]

And there it is. That is. Yeah. Now another question on that subject is at your shows, you used to pass around bags of your pubes and did you ever try to do that in a. I don't know. Sit down.

[Sarah Sherman]

I should have. What do they call it?

[Steven O'Malley]

Sorry, I missed the word sit down. What did you do? The. The.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

Run through.

[Sarah Sherman]

I would be. I would be ejected from the building. That's a hazard. No, but I have props. There's many props. Have I had a pube prop at snl? No.

[Steven O'Malley]

No pubes. No pubes. Oh, well, there's still time. What is a prop that you would love to see besides pubes?

[Sarah Sherman]

There's this like, sketch I've been trying to get off the ground for like five years that I have like really long boobs. Can't quite get it across the finish line.

[Steven O'Malley]

You. Did you ever suggest, like, tying them in knots?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes.

[Steven O'Malley]

Using them as buoys?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes. No. But thank you.

[Steven O'Malley]

Buoys. Because there's. Hopefully a cruise ship sinks. See? And then you can do a sketch on that.

[Sarah Sherman]

I. I'm gonna take that.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Perfect.

[Sarah Sherman]

Sure.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Whatever you need.

[Sarah Sherman]

Wait. Sorry. And what do I do? And thanks. Shout out to my Grace, Grace and Jack, who I will be writing the sketch with.

[Steven O'Malley]

Shout out Jack.

[Sarah Sherman]

Shout out Jack.

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[Steven O'Malley]

do a little Segment here called Disgraceful Receipts.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

And we pull from the Internet.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

Just little, little things that you've posted throughout the years. You're so young. Your footprint isn't anything crazy.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, no.

[Steven O'Malley]

You know, having people from your workplace on here, they're usually pretty good at scrubbing you. Not so much.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, not so much.

[Steven O'Malley]

Let's get started.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right. That's my meat puppet, if anyone wanted

[Steven O'Malley]

a visual on that.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right. That's the meat puppet. Right, right, right. Oh. Oh, was that a. Hannah Montana name generator or something? Great.

[Steven O'Malley]

Wonderful.

[Sarah Sherman]

Speaking of titties, I made that suit.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, you made it?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. Well, I mean, I painted on it. It's crap. That I painted on.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, that's great crap.

[Sarah Sherman]

So I didn't make it. There was a suit that I painted on top of.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's making that suit. Do you make all your clothes?

[Sarah Sherman]

No, but I like drawing, so I was like. I painted. I drew that. Oh, I was so little.

[Steven O'Malley]

Is it. This is around webcam time, where it all got banned, I'd say probably.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, where would that have even come from?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. Kind of gets creepy the way we do things around here, like.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's from Facebook, I'd say.

[Steven O'Malley]

So. Nora's really good at this.

[Sarah Sherman]

Wow.

[Steven O'Malley]

It really. It starts to freak everybody out, actually. Wow. She. She started as, you know, a Twitter stand. Of course.

[Sarah Sherman]

She's really good at getting classic. That's classic.

[Steven O'Malley]

That is.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was a promo pro. It was a poster for show I was doing. The meat market in the West Loop in Chicago had a bucket of pig heads there that the pig heads were either free or a dollar, and they would get rid of them every day. So the. Those pig heads were either free or a dollar.

[Steven O'Malley]

Wow. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I paid to that backdrop.

[Steven O'Malley]

So what do you do with them when you're done? Very talented, by the way. That's. It looks beautiful.

[Sarah Sherman]

Sure. Oh, I'm seeing double RuPaul's Drag Race, period.

[Steven O'Malley]

Absolute.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yep. Absolute. Absolute.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, this is from Mrs. Orange.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, my God. That's a. That's a SNL sketch.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, it is, yes.

[Sarah Sherman]

Where we. We're. We're. But. But that is what I would steal from Mrs. Orange. I would wear that. Yes, yes. But thank you for saying I have a youthful glow.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, yes, of course. And, oh, this section might be for Mrs. Orange. Right, right, right, right.

[Sarah Sherman]

That is me holding the Torah on my Babitzva. Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

So this is what you wore for karaoke team.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yep. And I'm wearing discount Bessie Johnson head to toe.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, well, Betsy Johnson must Have been your. Like that. That's got to be your, like, gateway.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's my girl.

[Steven O'Malley]

You know, she just turned 84.

[Sarah Sherman]

God bless.

[Steven O'Malley]

I just saw a video of her today. She's like, yeah, I'm 84. I'm just starting my life.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, period.

[Steven O'Malley]

She's, like, so youthful. She looks better than I do, period. She show was something.

[Sarah Sherman]

This is a crazy look. This is a.

[Steven O'Malley]

This is a people's exclusive.

[Sarah Sherman]

Hello. Me on a soap opera that I begged to be on.

[Steven O'Malley]

Really?

[Sarah Sherman]

I begged to be on a soap opera. And they're like, as a joke, and I was like, no, I literally love you. You.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, wow. Which one?

[Sarah Sherman]

General Hospital.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, well, you know, it's a classic, of course.

[Sarah Sherman]

Watch it with my mom growing up.

[Steven O'Malley]

Do you think you have, like, cult fans from it?

[Sarah Sherman]

I have cults. What's the opposite of a fan? Enemy. Oh, People being like, who is this woman? Why is she loud? Because this is weird.

[Steven O'Malley]

The people who watch that, watch that.

[Sarah Sherman]

They watch it. Yeah, they watch. Did you guys ever watch soap operas growing up? Damn.

[Steven O'Malley]

Did you? That's why you begged.

[Sarah Sherman]

I did.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, the people who came out of General Hospital is out of control.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's out of control. Who came out of General Hospital?

[Steven O'Malley]

I just. Garrett Sherman, George Clooney?

[Sarah Sherman]

Really?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yes. Oh, big star studded cast. It's you and Clune.

[Sarah Sherman]

Me and clone. If only.

[Steven O'Malley]

This is awesome.

[Sarah Sherman]

Okay. Right, Covid. I have my mask under my chin. I had Dorian Electra, musician, boyfriend at the time, Weston Allen, who directed all of their music videos, texted me a Etsy link to a clown suit and was like, you literally have to get this. And I went, okay. Clown suit comes in the mail. He didn't realize that it was a stilt clown suit. So the pant legs were, like, 10ft long, but I wore the jacket. I guess it's crazy. Picture.

[Steven O'Malley]

There's someone at UCB right now. Or is it UCB or Second City right now that's doing, like, a stilts gag, and it's so funny. I'm not doing it any justice.

[Sarah Sherman]

I forget the rest of it, but dangerous, scary.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, I'm seeing these for the first time, too, and it's just better for you to explain what goes on.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right, Right. Holy comedy hour in Chicago. Great name. Started by Connor o', Malley, I believe.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, big fan of him. He's actually my cousin. My last name's o'. Malley.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right. But I was believing you.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, right. No, and I was Sugar.

[Sarah Sherman]

Sean o'.

[Steven O'Malley]

Malley. Oh, hello.

[Sarah Sherman]

Hi. I'm not single, but, hey, oh, you want, you want.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, you want tickets to the White House?

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, is he right? I thought he just got naked and kind of wrestled guys.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, no, I liked him when he did that. My mom. I brought my mom to like some event once and she goes, yeah, yeah. Oh, Mally as well. And he was like, very cool. That's my connection.

[Sarah Sherman]

Very few. Does he have. Does he braid his hair?

[Steven O'Malley]

He sure does. He sure doesn't. And he. And he spices it up with a little color.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right, of course, of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

I'm sure I could hook you up with a pair of front row lawn seats.

[Sarah Sherman]

Would love. Yeah, would love.

[Steven O'Malley]

But what's going on? The Holy Comedy Hour.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was a midnight comedy show that you would do sketches and those were the crazy costumes for the costume bin. And I think I just liked that dress.

[Steven O'Malley]

Absolutely.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Do you remember, like, what your vibe was for this?

[Sarah Sherman]

Even tell you?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, yeah. It was one of those midnight shows.

[Sarah Sherman]

It was a midnight show and I was tired.

[Steven O'Malley]

You started in Chicago.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yep.

[Steven O'Malley]

Hell yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

You started in Boston. No, here, Here, here, here. Right. Well, those are my suits and that was my room. And those are pubes that I painted on.

[Steven O'Malley]

Something about pubes.

[Sarah Sherman]

Something about people. That was like 2017, Sarah. So I was like 10 at the time.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, my God.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right, right. It's more child pornography.

[Steven O'Malley]

And to finish off. Right, yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Another meat outfit. Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

And this is your profile picture.

[Sarah Sherman]

This is my profile picture.

[Steven O'Malley]

Is it actually.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes. Is it.

[Steven O'Malley]

Is it still? Currently.

[Sarah Sherman]

But that was for a long time

[Steven O'Malley]

how I know you.

[Sarah Sherman]

Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

This is how it was introduced.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's one of my. And those are ping pong eyeballs and teeth made out of press on nails. Of course.

[Steven O'Malley]

So crafty.

[Sarah Sherman]

So crafty. I had to make it. I wanted to make it look like all my skin had been flayed off. And this was concept art for an adult swimming for Marshall. I made.

[Steven O'Malley]

No.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

And that is the history of Miss Sarah right there. If we had to sub it all up in a couple of crazy wacky pictures. That's. I mean, you've got the perfect. That's my favorite one so far.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yay.

[Steven O'Malley]

I mean, because it's just. It's just all wackadoodle.

[Sarah Sherman]

And there were a lot of explanations I had.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, no, that is. I just said that, like Yoda explanations we did have and you. Discusses for which, yes, I do have. There is one thing I wanted to say at the end of your special. And I wrote it down at the end of your special. I don't know if you've ever noticed, but in the closed captions, it says, sarah sings atonally.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, atonally.

[Steven O'Malley]

Atonally Rude. Yeah. Which I had to look up. I didn't know what that meant. And it's an adverb describing music composed or performed without a central key.

[Sarah Sherman]

Right.

[Steven O'Malley]

Tonal center or traditional harmonic hierarchy. I can't.

[Sarah Sherman]

So I. I certainly didn't know that.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yes. So I just wanted. I. So my question was, do you get to decide the captions on that or.

[Sarah Sherman]

No, but that's quite interesting.

[Steven O'Malley]

They took an artistic.

[Sarah Sherman]

There are really good captions in it. Yeah, there's like, a lot of ones that say, like, squelch it. Like moans wildly, screeches.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, speaking of which, my sister and I both. We rewatched your special, and while rewatching it, we did have to turn it down a bit because people thought we were watching pornography in our own heads. That's what we were thinking.

[Sarah Sherman]

Or smut or something. You can't eat while watching it. You can't drink while watching it.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, well, it's just. It's. It's just absolutely electric is what it is. And so just from time to time, midday, afternoon. I just didn't want them to think I was completely whacking off.

[Sarah Sherman]

My friend sent me a picture. Multiple people have told me that it. That it. They were at the gym, and it was playing at the gym.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, no shit.

[Sarah Sherman]

They can't do that.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's pretty cool, though.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's like porno.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, but it's not because. Because HBO asked you if those are real body parts.

[Sarah Sherman]

It's not my butt. Isn't it? But it's, like, not my. Like, genitals. Butts aren't.

[Steven O'Malley]

Butts are fine.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's not a genital.

[Steven O'Malley]

They're cool with butts.

[Sarah Sherman]

I'm trying it.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, tell us if you like it.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, it's like a Gatorade. Yum.

[Steven O'Malley]

But better, right? But better.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh, yeah, I like it.

[Steven O'Malley]

Hell, yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

It has vitamins.

[Steven O'Malley]

Let me just see what we got here.

[Sarah Sherman]

Help me focus.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, I did want to just ask you, just, you know, Healing Kid To Healing kid. Yes. Your special is hbo.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes.

[Steven O'Malley]

And it's got, like, a Crashbox vibe. Did you watch Crashbox?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes.

[Steven O'Malley]

Is that intentional?

[Sarah Sherman]

Do you think that, like, it's like, liquid tv, Crashbox. Like all that crap.

[Steven O'Malley]

So what do you think? Like, what kind of shaped your humor as a kid? You think not to get too deep? No. Like, these are the deep and personal ones I wanted to get to. Yeah.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah. The nanny Seinfeld, Golden Girls, Peewee's Playhouse.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, absolutely. This all checks.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

Came full circle with the Seinfeld sound. Yes, it did. That rocks extra for that. Did you?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

I was wondering, I didn't know if maybe since Lauren produced it, if he could just kind of be like, just

[Sarah Sherman]

let us Would have loved. Would have loved it for free.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah. How much does that go for?

[Sarah Sherman]

A lot? Yeah, a lot.

[Steven O'Malley]

Then you have to do to pay on it. Like a subscription or is it like a one time fee?

[Sarah Sherman]

We had we one time fee but we had to cut the butthole door because it cost so much that the door was gonna be a butthole. But we're like, you know what, let's just, we'll cut that and keep the

[Steven O'Malley]

sign hiding between butthole and soundtrack.

[Sarah Sherman]

We got eyeball door. So that was fine.

[Steven O'Malley]

That was electric.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah.

[Steven O'Malley]

One more thing. You, you say and you said, ever heard of it? Max Salter also says that. I know, I know. You guys are pals. Who said it first?

[Sarah Sherman]

Sometimes I wonder where do I or Meg begin or end?

[Steven O'Malley]

Perfect answer. Perfect answer.

[Sarah Sherman]

And you can see us on tour. No, this April.

[Steven O'Malley]

That's like tomorrow.

[Sarah Sherman]

I know.

[Steven O'Malley]

Is that really happening?

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, like in Michigan and Texas.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, perfect.

[Sarah Sherman]

Traverse City, Michigan, in Texas. Why not?

[Steven O'Malley]

That's great.

[Sarah Sherman]

That's great. Do you go on tour?

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, yeah, I've, I, I, I'm like a full year in, so I've done the, the, the dope cities and now we're, we're moving on to. I didn't know this place existed.

[Sarah Sherman]

Of course. Some of the best.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, it's gonna, you know, some call them flyover. I say stay over forever. Let me just see.

[Sarah Sherman]

Let's get.

[Steven O'Malley]

Oh, oh, also just the, the, the Gilda Radner's brother. Yeah, the, what are you. The residuals. All of your residuals you were getting sent to her foundation.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yeah, like her, like a state.

[Steven O'Malley]

And so how did that happen? Did you ever get to the bottom of that?

[Sarah Sherman]

I don't know. No, I think someone was just sending them there, but I took it as a sign from God.

[Steven O'Malley]

That is like mad beautiful. Especially because so many people compare you to all the time.

[Sarah Sherman]

And I, I got to connect with him. So like I emailed him and I was like, your sister is the best. You know, like all that stuff. So that was nice.

[Steven O'Malley]

And then they have a, they have a festival under her name too, which, have you ever done that?

[Sarah Sherman]

No. Would love to be invited.

[Steven O'Malley]

Well, yeah, well, if you were invited, then it seems like they might trigger on the line, I had a friend who did it and they didn't know it was cancer research.

[Sarah Sherman]

Oh.

[Steven O'Malley]

And they just at the top went in with a cancer joke and they were like, whoa, what the fuck? No one thinks it's funny anymore, right?

[Sarah Sherman]

That's good.

[Steven O'Malley]

Yeah, that was pretty brutal for her. But, you know, I think you can learn from her mistakes.

[Sarah Sherman]

Let's see.

[Steven O'Malley]

And all right, we had a game, but I'm gonna get you out of here. You've been had a long day. This is your third podcast today.

[Sarah Sherman]

Yes, ma'.

[Steven O'Malley]

Am. All right, we'll see. We'll save Squirm Prof. For another day. Now this is a time where you can look right into the camera one last time and shout out just about anything. And you did your people. Now it's time to shout your own self.

[Sarah Sherman]

Phone. Hey, guys, you know what I'm shouting out today? World peace.

[Steven O'Malley]

Rock on. She's also got a special on hbo,

[Sarah Sherman]

but I'm such a martyr. I'd rather tell you about world peace. And my special is on hbo, so please check it out.

[Steven O'Malley]

Thanks for coming on, dude. I really appreciate you.

[Sarah Sherman]

Great.

[Steven O'Malley]

This is awesome.

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