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Jay Schwedelson
What up? Welcome to do this not that the podcast for Marketers. I'm Jay Schwedelson. Let's dig into some tips and some randomness. We are back for Ask Us Anything from the do this not that podcast presented by Marigold. This is our short episode where all week long we get in questions, we get in work questions, we get in super out of control ridiculous questions and we try to tackle one of each. And if you want to submit a question, you would be extremely cool. All you got to do is go to jweddelson.com there's a button that says podcast and another one that says ask us anything and that's how we do the show. So let's do the work question first. We had a question from Brian from Denver. You know, honestly, I can't fly to Denver because the last time I did your airport is, it is out of control. It is, first of all, it's way too big. You cannot get from like I had a flight which I almost missed because I had to get from one gate to the other. It is ridiculous. And I don't know if you know this, but I think it's accurate. I saw after I was so annoyed with the Denver airport, I looked it up on TripAdvisor. Do you know the Denver airport is voted as having the worst smelling bathrooms in America? And I, I agree with that. It's completely disgusting. And it's like a new airport. It's like what is, what is actually going on there? I have no idea. Anyway, you didn't ask. I always go down a rabbit hole. What is your question, Brian? Jay, our content we are promoting seems out of touch with what is going on in terms of companies budgets. We continue to use our playbook from last year and our engagement is getting worse. Is it a bad idea to tie in some of the cost cutting things we are seeing in our industry in our content? No. The exact opposite is not a bad idea. It is a great idea. And I have some information to share for business marketers and consumer marketers. And here is the I'm going to give you the end of the story. The end of the story is by incorporating economic related things into your content offers and into the sale names of whatever it is you're promoting, it is radically changing the level of engagement. I don't care about politics. Who cares? There is no doubt that there is some uncertainty right now in the economy because there are tariffs, there are things going on. And so whatever business you're in, whatever sector you're in, business Consumer doesn't matter. There's uncertainty about what is the next six months look like, what is the holiday season look like, what's going to happen across the board. And so the content that we all want to consume is economic related content. So let me give you the stat first and let me give you the tactics that you want to think about doing. So on the business to business side, economic related content is doing incredible according to World Data Research in the last 60 days doing it, doing a head to head test generic content like download our SMB Guide versus economic impact related content. Right, The SMB Guide for Economic Uncertainty. Right, Head to head tests. When you do generic versus economic impact related content, the economic impact related content is seeing a 40% higher average download rate for downloadable content. That is wild. I'm going to give you examples of how you could do that very easily. And on the consumer side, offers discussing budget related things are seeing a 20% higher conversion rate because we're all thinking a little bit closer about how we're spending our money. I'm going to give you some examples of those type of sales as well. So if you're a business to business marketer, you don't just want to be out there with your regular boring ebook or your regular guide about your industry or tips or whatever you want to have it to tie in to kind of this economic thing that's on the top of our mind. So examples of that would be, you know, the cost cutting playbook, you know, 10 strategies to thrive in a tight economy, the resilience roadmap, navigating your business through blah blah blah, the profit protection checklist, the cash flow toolkit, the budget optimization cheat sheet. If I got an email from the industry that I'm in and the offer was a budget optimization cheat sheet, I am checking that out. Or how about the ROI Maximizer 100%, I'm checking that out. Or the Economic Uncertainty Playbook. 12 Tactics for Business stability. You need to always be of the moment. This is what people want to know about. It's not hard content to create and it might just be a matter of changing around a title or two. But if you, if you're playing with last year's playbook, you are wasting your time. What are you doing? And on the consumer side, it's the same thing. The names of your sales should tie into the economic uncertainty. So things like the summer savings glow up. You could still make it fun, right? The summer savings glow up. You're talking about savings, Vacation mode, value vault. You're saying okay, there's going to be value here. The smart splurge spree, the smart money style edit. You want to be aware of what's in people's minds, and then you want to give them the offer and the content that they want to consume. Stop playing with last year's playbook. It is not last year. It's a very different year, and it's working incredibly well. All right, let's get into the ridiculous question. We had a question from Sarah from Deerfield Beach, Florida. Hey, that's like 10 minutes from where I live now. I lived there a long time ago in Deerfield Beach. Nothing going on there. Actually kind of boring. Sorry. Pretty rude of me. But it's nice. It's just boring. Hey, what are you going to do? Not that I'm so cool. I'm boring. Who cares? What's the question? Anyway, Sarah, I'm so sorry. Jay, I want your take on some random celebrity gossip I just read online. I'm going to ask you four random questions. Is that okay? Oh, boy. I'm always so bad at this. Here we go. Here are the questions. I have not read these yet. J. Timothee Chalamet is desperate to split from Kylie Jenner, sources say. What do you think about that? This is ridiculous. First of all, I really like Timothee Chalamet, the guy who's in Dune, because he. He's a super sports fan. The guy's been on espn. He's at the Knicks games. He knows more about sports than like, anybody, and he seems like a good dude. And I'm not down on Kylie Jenner. I think she's cool. She has a great business, she's doing great. And I don't believe that they're getting ready to break up. I think they should stay together. I am pro their relationship. How ridiculous is this podcast? I just gave a breakdown on Timothee Chalamet and Kylie Jenner. Anyway, what do you got next? J. Real Housewives of New York City has stated it officially that Bryn Whitfield is leaving. How do you feel about this? Oh, I know. Nobody knows what this means except for me. But thank you for asking. I'm sad. I'm a big Brin fan. I mean, the problem was last season, she really was a mess. I mean, she was lying. She was doing weird stuff. Nobody trusted her. She was probably my favorite person. But then it got weird. My favorite personnel in Real Housewives in New York is easily Jenna Lyons. If they get rid of Jenna Lyons, I would say I would stop watching. But that's not true. So I'm a little sad, but I understand it. All right. Jennifer Lopez wants to spend summer surrounded by hot guys, says sources. That's the stupidest sentence I've ever read in my life. First of all, it's embarrassing that I just read it. It's Sarah, it's embarrassing that you asked me what I think about this, but I think that whoever is the source of that and they are now publishing that should also be embarrassed. Jennifer Lopez needs to stop. She is very famous, she's done very well for herself, and she's always posting ridiculous things online. And she probably had her publicist release something to somebody saying that she wants to be surrounded by hot guys. This is literally embarrassing for everybody involved, myself included. So I'm not giving an opinion on that. All right, last one, Jay. Elizabeth Hurley is now dating Billy Ray Cyrus. What do you think about that? I actually saw that. That they're dating and I thought it was fake at first because I was like, what is going on here? Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley. And, and no, it is real. And I'm very pro this as well. Listen, who cares? You got to be happy. Just be happy. Don't worry about what other people think. About what? As long as you're not hurting somebody else, you're not doing wrong by somebody. If Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley want to hang out, Amazing. Invite me to the wedding. I want to go. Come on. What are we doing? What am I doing? Anyway, you're awesome. I appreciate you. Leave this thing a review or don't. And what else can you do? I don't know. I appreciate you. Later. You did it. You made it to the end. Nice. But the party's not over. Subscribe to make sure you get the latest episode each week for more actionable tips and a little chaos from today's top marketers. And hook us up with a five star review. If this wasn't the worst podcast of all time. Lastly, if you want access to the the best virtual marketing events that are also 100% free, visit guruvents. Com so you can hear from the world's top marketers like Damon John, Martha Stewart and me. Guruvents. Com. Check it out.
Podcast Summary: "Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson | Ep. 353"
Episode Overview
In Episode 353 of "Do This, NOT That!," hosted by Jay Schwedelson and presented by Marigold, listeners are treated to a blend of actionable marketing insights and a touch of lighthearted celebrity gossip. The episode primarily revolves around enhancing marketing strategies in the face of economic uncertainties and concludes with Jay addressing some offbeat celebrity rumors submitted by listeners.
Timestamp: [00:45]
The episode kicks off with Jay addressing a pertinent work-related query from Brian of Denver. Brian expresses concern that his marketing content appears disconnected from current company budgets, relying on outdated strategies that are yielding diminishing engagement.
Brian's Concern:
"Our content we are promoting seems out of touch with what is going on in terms of companies budgets. We continue to use our playbook from last year and our engagement is getting worse. Is it a bad idea to tie in some of the cost-cutting things we are seeing in our industry in our content?" ([00:45])
Jay's Insightful Response: Jay vehemently disagrees with the notion that aligning content with economic conditions is a bad idea. Instead, he emphasizes its significance in boosting engagement.
"No. The exact opposite is not a bad idea. It is a great idea." ([03:15])
He elaborates on how integrating economic-related themes into marketing not only resonates with the audience's current mindset but also substantially enhances engagement metrics. Citing research from World Data, Jay highlights that:
Business-to-Business (B2B) Marketers: Incorporating economic uncertainty into content titles (e.g., "The SMB Guide for Economic Uncertainty") can lead to a 40% increase in average download rates for downloadable content.
Consumer Marketers: Crafting offers that address budget-consciousness (e.g., "Summer Savings Glow Up") can achieve a 20% higher conversion rate.
Practical Examples Provided by Jay:
B2B Content Titles:
Consumer Offer Names:
Jay underscores the importance of staying current and adapting content strategies to reflect the prevailing economic climate, suggesting that even minor tweaks in titles can lead to significant engagement boosts.
Timestamp: [15:30]
Transitioning from serious marketing discussions, Jay delves into the "Ridiculous Questions" segment, where he humorously tackles celebrity rumors submitted by Sarah from Deerfield Beach, Florida. Sarah presents four celebrity-related queries, each prompting Jay's candid and often witty responses.
a. Timothee Chalamet and Kylie Jenner Split Rumor:
"J. Timothee Chalamet is desperate to split from Kylie Jenner, sources say. What do you think about that?" ([16:10])
Jay dismisses the rumor with confidence, expressing support for the couple.
"I think they should stay together. I am pro their relationship." ([17:00])
b. Bryn Whitfield Leaving "Real Housewives of New York City":
"Real Housewives of New York City has stated it officially that Bryn Whitfield is leaving. How do you feel about this?" ([17:30])
While acknowledging his affection for Bryn, Jay shares mixed feelings, recognizing both her popularity and the complexities of her recent behavior on the show.
"I'm sad. I'm a big Bryn fan... But then it got weird." ([18:00])
c. Jennifer Lopez Spending Summer with Hot Guys:
"Jennifer Lopez wants to spend summer surrounded by hot guys, says sources. What do you think about that?" ([18:45])
Jay critiques the sensational nature of the rumor, emphasizing the need for credible sources and expressing discomfort with such narratives.
"Jennifer Lopez needs to stop. She is very famous... This is literally embarrassing for everybody involved." ([19:15])
d. Elizabeth Hurley Dating Billy Ray Cyrus:
"Elizabeth Hurley is now dating Billy Ray Cyrus. What do you think about that?" ([19:45])
Embracing the news with a positive outlook, Jay encourages happiness and mutual respect in relationships.
"If Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley want to hang out, Amazing. Invite me to the wedding. I want to go." ([20:15])
Throughout this segment, Jay maintains a light-hearted tone, providing both humor and genuine opinions on the gossip presented.
Timestamp: [20:30]
Jay concludes the episode by reiterating the importance of adapting marketing strategies to current economic conditions. By aligning content with what audiences are actively seeking—economic insights and budget-friendly solutions—marketers can significantly enhance engagement and conversion rates.
Additionally, the lighter segment on celebrity gossip serves to humanize Jay and the podcast, offering listeners a well-rounded blend of professional advice and relatable conversation.
Conclusion
Episode 353 of "Do This, NOT That!" provides valuable marketing strategies tailored to the uncertainties of the current economic landscape, backed by compelling statistics and practical examples. Jay Schwedelson adeptly balances serious content with entertaining segments, ensuring that listeners gain both knowledge and enjoyment. Whether you're a B2B marketer looking to refine your content strategy or simply seeking insightful discussions interspersed with playful banter, this episode delivers on all fronts.
Notable Quotes:
Jay on Updating Content Strategies:
“If you’re playing with last year's playbook, you are wasting your time.” ([05:30])
Jay on Economic-Related Content Impact:
“Economic impact related content is seeing a 40% higher average download rate for downloadable content.” ([07:15])
Jay on Responding to Celebrity Gossip:
“Jennifer Lopez needs to stop. She is very famous... This is literally embarrassing for everybody involved.” ([19:15])
Additional Resources:
For more insights and to engage with the podcast community, listeners are encouraged to submit their own questions via jweddelson.com under the podcast section.
This summary is crafted to provide a comprehensive overview of Episode 353 for those who haven't had the chance to listen, encapsulating the essence of both the marketing discussions and the entertaining Q&A session.