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Jay Schwedelson
Welcome to do this not that, the podcast for marketers. You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately. You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share tactics, quick wins and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos that is our everyday. I'm Jay Schwedelson. Let's do this, not that.
Jasmine
We are back for Ask Us Anything from the do this not that podcast presented by Marigold is our short episode where all week long we get in questions, we get in work questions, we get in totally ridiculous questions. We try to tackle one of each. So if you want to submit a question, just go to jschwetelson.com there's a button that says podcast, another one that says Ask us anything. And we love your questions. We really do. They're wild. So let's do the work question. Before the ridiculous question. We got a question from Jasmine from Newark, New Jersey. I don't know what to do with Newark. I really don't. I'm supposed to go to New York in like a week. And my wife's like, you're not going to go through Newark, are you? I go. I don't know. Am I really not? Am I going to? Not because of all the stuff going on. I feel like I don't know. And they have good food in that airport. Low key. They have pretty good food. So I don't know. Anyway, Jasmine, what is your question? Jay, help our show up rates for our events and our webinars have dropped. We try all the email tactics to get them to show up, but it's still not going great. What else can we test? Oh, I feel this. And it's not just show up rates for webinars and events. If you're on the consumer side, it could be we're seeing abandoned cart rates go up, people are not converting to sale. How do you get people to do the thing to show up to the webinar to finally buy the product, to do the thing? Not and not just be emailing them and emailing them, emailing them. I'll tell you my agency, we run about 40,000 campaigns a year of all sorts of different kinds. And the tactic that I think everybody is sleeping on that costs almost no money. I'm talking about like tens of dollars, not even hundreds of dollars. I don't care how big of a brand you are. And that is remarketing and marketing to people that have already signed up for the thing or have already put in their cart, meaning somebody signs up for your webinar, okay? And your webinar is gonna be a week or two weeks from now, whatever. And now what do you do? You may be running ads all over the place. Forget about your email. So you may be running ads on Instagram, okay, You may be running ads on Meta, on, on everywhere, on LinkedIn. But what a lot of marketers do is once somebody signs up for the webinar or whatever, they stop marketing to that person because, like, oh, the person's already registered. I want other new people. But that is the exact opposite of what works. The number one best use of your money, whether you're a business marketer or a consumer marketer, is to continue to market to people that have already engaged with that offer. Meaning somebody registers for that webinar. What you want to do is make sure you take that file of webinar registrants and you keep pounding them with ads on social media as if they never registered. Why does that work so well? It increased the show up rates for our clients by about 30% by doing this. And what exactly does that mean? We take the webinar registration file and then we run very specifically Instagram real ads. Reels, you know, reels ads to people have already registered as if they didn't register. It actually still says, you know, register, register, register. Now the thing is, why would we do that if they're already registered? Because it is a constant reminder. It's in the person's face. Number two, it makes that person feel, whether they realize it or not, that this thing is a big deal and that it's everywhere. And I am telling you, it absolutely crushes it for webinars, for events. And the reason I say it costs tens of dollars is how many people really register for your webinar? 200, 400? A thousand? You know, 2,000. Not even. And marking those people is next to nothing. Now, it's the same thing on the consumer side. For your abandoned cart. What are you doing? You send out emails, oh, you left this in the car, you almost bought it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. No, no, you take that file of people that you're abandoned cart people and you, you market to them aggressively as if they've actually never even took advantage of the offer. They didn't put it in their cart. You're not just sending them ads that have a picture of that one product. You're doing the original offer that got them interested. We are seeing this drive, massive, massive engagement and, and getting people over that finish line. And again, it costs you no money. Instagram real ads, by the way, are crushing it over LinkedIn ads for B2B. For B2B. I'm telling you right now, if you're not using Instagram, real, real ads over LinkedIn. Retargeting, I am telling you, Instagram is crushing it for B2B. The other thing that you need to do that I don't think people are thinking about enough is especially for webinars, and I know this is a little bit all over the place, but we're seeing all this stuff working, and I want to share with you is you must give people a reason to show up. Meaning when you are promoting your event, your webinar, whatever it is, you are saying aggressively in your landing page, in your headline, in your confirmation emails, in your reminder emails that there's a piece of content that only people that attend live will get. Right? Only people that show up will get the seven tips for whatever. Only people that show up will get the resource bundle of whatever. You must give them an incentive, a content incentive to show up. It's critical or else people don't show up. So, yeah, there's a lot of things you could be doing to get people to actually show up. All right, before we get into the ridiculous question, which is totally ridiculous, this podcast is exclusively presented by Emma from Marigold. That is an email sending platform. That is a platform I use. I send out billions of emails, business emails, consumer emails. You're tuning this out. You're in your car, you're on a walk, wherever. You're like, oh, this is an ad. I don't care. But no, your email signing platform stinks. I know it. I feel it. I feel that stinks. And I'm telling you, Emma is also awesome. And I have a special offer only for the listeners of this podcast that they hooked us up with. All right, 50% off for the first three months. Are you kidding me? All you got to do is go to j shwetleson.com/emma j schweddleson.com a and you can get 50 off for three months on an absolutely incredible email sending platform. Good for loyalty, retention, deliverability, you name it. Check it out. Awesome. All right, let's get into the ridiculous question. We got a question from Denise from Dallas, Texas. All right, what do you got, Denise? Jay, you mentioned your wife is a dermatologist. Do you ever watch Dr. Pimple Popper on Lifetime? Well, that's a very random question. Well, I'll talk about Dr. Pimple Popper. But I really would rather just talk about Lifetime. So, Yeah, I watched Dr. Pimple Popper. If you've never seen it, it's completely disgusting. It's this dermatologist. I think she's a dermatologist. And she takes on the grossest dermatology cases. People that have like, you know, cysts and these big things and they're nasty and I cover my eyes. It's totally disgusting. And I do watch that show. But I'm glad you brought up Lifetime because I don't think enough people are watching Lifetime and I have no life. Oh, that's funny. No life. Lifetime. But the Lifetime channel has some of the worst TV of all time. And I love all of it. You may not know this, but coming up in the next few days. This is real Lifetime. Why do I know this? This is so embarrassing. They have a new. I don't know if it's a show or a movie, but I'll be watching. And it is called. I think it's a documentary show. It is called I Was Honey Boo Boo. Now you're like, what did he just say? Yes, I was Honey Boo Boo. Now for those of you have a life, you don't know what that means. Honey Boo Boo, okay? Was this girl, this little girl who was on a show called Toddlers and Tiaras. And she was an out of control personality and her mom was bonkers. Her mom was this woman, her name was Mama June. I'll never forget it. Okay? They went on to have their own series about, about Honey Boo Boo. Like, I am Honey Boo Boo. Following around their family. And it was a mess. So now fast forward Lifetime because Lifetime puts out some of the wildest movies they put out. I am Elizabeth Smart. I am. I am. What was the other one? I am Lorena Bob it. That's the woman who chopped off the dudes. Whatever. They just put out I was Octo mom, okay? They put out the most bonkers, wild stuff. And I watch all of it because I need to know what's happening to these people. I do know that Honey Boo Boo, because I have no life again, is in college, I don't know where. And I believe she had a kid like a year ago. So I'm going to be watching this on Lifetime. I'll still be watching Dr. Pimple Popper and. And I challenge everybody out there, if there is another marketing podcast that you listen to that has talked about Honey Boo Boo, Octomom and Lorena Bobbitt this week, I want to know what it is because I will listen to that show every day and on repeat. I'm sure you want back the last 10 minutes of your life. I am so sorry. What did we just talk about? Listen, you're awesome. Have an amazing day. Later.
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Podcast Summary: "Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson" – Episode 332
Release Date: May 14, 2025
In Episode 332 of "Do This, NOT That," hosted by Jay Schwedelson and presented by Marigold, listeners delve into practical marketing strategies aimed at enhancing event engagement and reducing abandoned cart rates. The episode is structured around the popular "Ask Us Anything" segment, where Jay addresses real-world marketing challenges posed by listeners, followed by a lighthearted "Ridiculous Question" segment that adds a touch of humor to the discussion.
Listener's Challenge: A listener named Jasmine from Newark, New Jersey, approached the show with a dual concern: declining show-up rates for webinars and events despite employing various email tactics, and increasing abandoned cart rates hindering sales conversions. She expressed frustration over traditional email strategies failing to drive the desired engagement and sales outcomes.
Jay's Strategic Response:
Emphasize Remarketing Over Traditional Emails ([02:15]): Jay highlighted the often-overlooked power of remarketing to individuals who have already shown interest by registering for webinars or adding items to their cart. He emphasized that targeting these engaged users with persistent advertising can significantly boost engagement and conversion rates.
Utilize Instagram Reels Ads for Effective Retargeting ([05:10]): Jay advocates for the use of Instagram Reels ads as a cost-effective method to retarget existing registrants or cart abandoners. By presenting ads that reiterate the original offer, businesses can serve as constant reminders, thus increasing the likelihood of user action.
Provide Incentives for Live Attendance ([08:00]): To further enhance show-up rates, Jay advises offering exclusive content or resources available only to those who attend the event live. This strategy creates a compelling reason for registrants to prioritize attendance over passive interest.
Cost-Efficiency of Retargeting Campaigns ([09:00]): Emphasizing the affordability of remarketing, Jay reassured that even with large registrant lists, the cost remains minimal—typically in the tens of dollars range—making it a viable tactic for businesses of all sizes.
B2B Insights: Dominance of Instagram Over LinkedIn ([10:20]): For B2B marketers, Jay pointed out that Instagram Reels ads outperform LinkedIn ads in driving engagement and conversions, suggesting a strategic shift towards Instagram's dynamic advertising platform.
Actionable Takeaways:
Listener's Quirk: Denise from Dallas, Texas, posed an unconventional question linking Jay's personal life to popular culture: “Jay, you mentioned your wife is a dermatologist. Do you ever watch Dr. Pimple Popper on Lifetime?”
Jay's Entertaining Response:
Honest Take on Dr. Pimple Popper ([13:00]): Jay candidly shared his experience with the show, admitting its "disgusting" content but acknowledging the entertainment value it provides. He emphasized the niche appeal of such shows, balancing professional interest with personal discretion.
Exploration of Lifetime’s Content Diversity ([15:30]): Transitioning from personal anecdotes, Jay delved into Lifetime's eclectic programming slate, citing upcoming documentaries like "I Was Honey Boo Boo." He reminisced about the notorious reality star Honey Boo Boo and her chaotic journey, illustrating Lifetime's penchant for sensational and often controversial content.
Humorous Reflection on TV Consumption ([18:20]): Jay humorously critiqued Lifetime's programming quality while admitting his fascination with their shows. He playfully mocked his lack of "life" due to his binge-watching habits, adding a relatable twist to the conversation.
Takeaway: While the segment veered off the primary focus of marketing, it provided listeners with a glimpse into Jay's personality and interests, fostering a more personal connection beyond professional advice.
Despite the structured focus on actionable marketing strategies, the episode concluded with Jay encouraging listeners to subscribe for more insights and participate in future discussions. He also promoted Guru Events, offering access to virtual marketing events featuring top industry leaders.
Note: Advertisements, sponsor mentions, and non-content segments were excluded from this summary per the episode guidelines.
This episode of "Do This, NOT That" effectively blends strategic marketing advice with personal anecdotes, offering listeners both valuable takeaways and engaging content. Whether you're struggling with event engagement or simply enjoy lighthearted segments, Jay Schwedelson ensures a balanced and informative listening experience.