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Welcome to do this not that, the podcast for marketers. We share quick tips, things you can do right now, and then we add a little bit of chaos at the end of every episode. We also keep it short, like this intro. Let's check it out. We are back for Ask Us Anything from the do this not that podcast is our episode where we're getting questions all week long. Work questions, ridiculous questions. We try to tackle one of each. And if you want to submit a question, it's real easy. Just go to jschwetelson.com and you could submit a question. There's a button that says podcast, another one that says ask us anything. And yeah, we love getting the questions. So let's do it. The first question is from Ben from Miami. Well, that's near me. I'm in Boca Raton. You know what I saw about Miami this week? You don't see the local news, but I do. There are. There was a restaurant down there who. Who. And I guess a lot of restaurants are doing this that are making, not rules, but like guidelines for when a creator comes to their restaurant, how they want their staff to handle it. Like an influencer. Not even like a big influence. I get it if, like, you know, I don't know, Kim Kardashian shows up as a regular, like, creator or something. They're giving them special seating near windows. This was on this write up. Okay. And then they're alerting the kitchen, and then the person that's their waiter has to have a story ready to tell about the food more than just the regular reading of the specials. It was this whole thing. I don't know. So creators are now getting, like, the red carpet treatment. I guess that's how restaurants get traffic. Who might. Whatever, who cares? All right, Ben, what is your question? Jay, we are pumping out more content than ever because we're using some AI tools to generate a ton of posts and. And new email formats, too. But our engagement is actually dropping. You have any thoughts as to why, if we are doing more, we are seeing less. Yeah, well, that doesn't really surprise me at all because, you know, all these AI tools and there's so many of them now, Right. It's getting us to be more efficient and pump out more garbage. But here's the reality of it. And we've been testing a lot of stuff. The things that. Whether you're a business marketer, consumer marketer, nonprofit, the lo Fi, which I've talked about before, but I have some specific new things to test. The lo Fi kind of More authentic stuff is what's working. The polished AI garbage is just garbage. So for example, let me give you some specifics that you can test that we're seeing a serious lift on. So let's talk about case studies. Everybody wants their case studies downloaded, but that doesn't really even work that well anymore because case studies are generic and boring. What's actually working is whether it's business, consumer, whatever. Are screenshot testimonials. That format, if you could screenshot a testimonial and use that as the image in your social posts, in your emails, on your website, that is crushing. We actually did a head to head test on this and we saw a 22% conversion lift when the testimonial was a screenshot as opposed to just a case study format. The craziest one that we've been testing, which is so wild, has to do with your call to action buttons. You know, the long rectangular things in your emails, on your landing pages, wherever you're getting people to click through. And it's this idea instead of saying download or register or buy now it's this idea of the maybe call to action button. It's so weird. So what does that mean? If the call to action button, instead of setting the regular stuff, it says something like let me see where you actually write L E, M M E and then see, let me see. Or the button would say, fine, I'll look or show me the thing, or would say, I guess. Or we'll say, okay, what is this, this idea of the maybe call to action button? I know how bizarre that is, but it grabs your attention for a millisecond and it's the most UNAI thing ever. And we actually tested this on a bunch of campaigns and we actually saw this type of, you know, casual maybe style call to action button. We got a 14% higher click through rate when doing that versus a lot of the standard call to actions that we were using. And then one of the other things that we've been testing is webinar title format. Right now the best webinar title format that we have been seeing is instead of like doing a webinar title, that would be something like, you know, strategies for blah blah blah, something epically boring, generic garbage. If you have your webinar title starting with how we did blah blah blah, how we did blah blah, that is crushing it. Because all we want in general with the content that's working out there is behind the scenes. That is really the thing that we want. The one place we're Seeing it more than anywhere else. The number one content format that is outperforming any polished educational content of any kind is Day in the Life content. If you're a boring manufacturer, if you are in a regulated industry like healthcare or financial services, if you are a nonprofit, I am telling you, Day in the Life content crushes it. I don't care what industry you're in. Of course, if you're in a fun consumer industry, that's easy. Test this out. It is working so, so well. All right, let's get into the ridiculous question. We have a question from Kathy from Portland. Jay, we need you to settle some big debates. Are these things bad? Okay, she has four of them. Here we go. Is this bad? Rehearsing fake arguments in the shower? Well, I never really thought about that. I do that. I. Not even just fake arguments. I just. I find myself. I don't know if you all do this. I find myself actually knowing I'm going to have a certain conversation and I'll, like, almost talk it out in the shower. Is that weird? Maybe it's not weird. Could you ask the question? So I'm going to go with no, that's not bad. And I never really thought about it, but I do that. Not the argument thing, but I do that. Okay, next one. Is this bad? Reading restaurant menus before arriving. You know, I. I'm going to talk out of both sides of my mouth. I don't like doing that because it takes away from the experience of when you go to the restaurant. But I also like knowing if the restaurant has a good menu. So I do it sometimes, not always. I don't think it's bad, but I also think it makes your restaurant experience more boring. So I'm on the fence on that one. Okay, what about the next one? Is this bad, saying we need rain? Like, you're a farmer? Yeah, this actually bothers me. I don't like it when people say we need rain. Even I know that some areas have a drought and that's not okay for me to say. Maybe because I'm in Florida and it rains all the time. But it does bother me when it's raining out and I want to go somewhere and says, no, no, this is good. We needed the rain. I'm like, who are you? Like, like, are you like a meteorologist? We needed the rain. I know we're all on one team on the planet and all that stuff. I don't know why that bothers me. It's fine if you say it in your head. It just bothers me. All right, the last one. Jay, is this bad using a speakerphone in public? This is probably the worst thing of all time. Okay, it could not be more annoying. Someone. No one cares about your conversation. I don't even care about the conversations I'm in when I'm not on speakerphone. Nobody on earth should be on their speakerphone in public. If you do this, you stink. Don't do that. Good questions, Kathy. All right, everyone. I would appreciate something. 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