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Jay Schwedelson
What up? Welcome to do this not that the podcast for marketers. I'm Jay Schwedelson. Let's dig into some tips and some randomness. We are back for Ask Us Anything from the do this not that podcast presented by Marigold, is our super short episode where all week long we get in questions, we get in work questions, we get in very ridiculous questions. We try to tackle one of each. And if you want to submit a question, you'd be my best friend. Just go to jschwettleson.com there's a button that says podcast, another one that says ask us anything. And that's how we do this show. So let's jump into it. We're gonna do the work question first. We got a question from Davey from Kansas City, Missouri. You know, I bet you guys are doing a lot of barbecuing there because that's like what you do. I feel like in Kansas City I turned on my barbecue this past weekend and I'm not good at many things. And with barbecuing, I, I don't know how people like, I'm a good barbecuer or whatever. I'm just happy I don't explode because like when I turn on my barbecue, it does that boom. That thing where like, you know, when the, when the fire starts going and I'm just like, is it going to explode? Is this the end of life? So I probably can't live in Kansas City. I'd be run out of town. Davey, what is your question? Jay, we use all the AI tools to help with our email copy and our social media copy and our results are average at best. I feel like we are just blending in because everyone is using the same tools and tactics. Coming out of tools like ChatGPT, are there some anti AI things that we should be doing to stand out? This is an excellent question. And there's a lot of data now showing that if you are going to tools like ChatGPT or Claude or Anthropic or any of them, and you're asking it to help you with your content, you're asking it to help you write your subject line, the blogs that you have, your social media posts, that AI gives you back some very repetitive things. And there was a study that was just done by civic science that said 71% of people, business and consumer people can now spot AI written content. And the issue is there are some boat anchor elements now that if you use in your marketing, it actually is pulling down performance. So I want to share with you what some of those Boat anchor things are so you don't use them, and then things that you can do to unai some of your content. So first off, let's talk emojis. I know this is ridiculous, but believe it or not, there's two very specific emojis that if you go to ChatGPT, for example, and say, hey, I need a subject line, you're a business marketer, you're a consumer marketer, it doesn't matter what. There are two emojis that AI that ChatGPT gives you back within the subject lines that actually now are lowering performance by about 15% when you use these two emojis, and they are the green check mark emoji, and they are the party popper emoji. Why does the green check mark emoji and party popper emoji depressed performance? Because ChatGPT is giving it back so frequently and so repetitive, with it being a part of what they're recommending, that when we see it, whether it's in the subconscious or not, we now know that that's likely written by AI and for some reason that turns us off. So you can't just take what ChatGPT gives you or these other tools give you in terms of the, the words that you're writing, the content generation, and just copy and paste it, because now it's actually hurting performance. And there are, besides for just those emojis, there are actually some wor very repetitive words that CHAT GPT that recommends. And it's not just for subject lines. That also applies for social posts, the party popper emoji and the green check mark, you don't want them anywhere near your content because that is a telltale sign. The other thing that there are certain words that ChatGPT and some of the other AI tools recommend that you want to avoid at the start of either your social posts or your subject lines. And those words are unlocking discover, boost, grow and optimize. I mean, I cannot tell you how many times I get unlock, you know, unlock the savings, unlock the discount, unlock the guide, unlock whatever. We don't want to stop. Stop unlocking everything. And now it's pulling down performance. So on the flip side of this, what can you do? Okay, what can you do to an AI? Your marketing, Certain things that work really great. What you want to say to yourself is what will AI never tell me to do? And that's what you want to do. So, for example, expressive spelling crushes it, meaning, like you stretch your words and this could be done in your subject line in the headline of your email on your landing page, on your social posts. AI would never recommend. Let's say you wanted to put in your subject line, you know, so good. You know, S O O O O O good. Or yes, with five S's or and with four N's or with four H's. Okay? AI is never going to recommend that. And it stops people in their scroll. They know a human being wrote this and it. It's that pattern disruptor. That's what you're looking for. And believe it or not, in email subject lines, for example, this lifts open rates by over 20% and it crushes it on social media. A tactic that none of you will do, that you should do is typos. Typos do incredible. Right? Now spell Thursday wrong with two A's. I have a Thursday webinar. And if you wrote, you know, webinar Thursday, okay? And you use two A's, it will crush it. It stands out. Now you feel like it's not written by AI. Believe it or not, intentional typos are on the rise in all of marketing because this idea of an AI, and the easiest one that I would use immediately in your subject lines, don't capitalize anything. Don't capitalize the first letter of the first word. Don't capitalize any anything. We're seeing this actually lift email open rates by about 10%. Why? Because AI would never recommend that. So don't capitalize anything. It stands out really, really well. It's also working on social posts for your headline copy. All right, before we get into the ridiculous question, I want you to know that this podcast is exclusively presented by Marigold. Now, Marigold has a platform called Emma. I use it to send out my email. I send out billions of consumer and business emails. It is awesome. You don't like your platform? I like my platform. They send out my emails. It is great for loyalty, marketing, retention, marketing metrics, you name it. We have a special offer only for listeners of this podcast. Okay? 50% off your first three months. Come on. So the way that you can get this offer, just go to jschweddelson.com emma JSON.come M M A. Check it out. All right, let's talk. Ridiculous question. We have a question from Jessica from Nashville, Tennessee. I was just in Nashville. I love Nashville. Although while I was there, everybody's like, you need boots. You don't have boots. You need to buy boots. I'm like, I'm gonna buy boots and wear them once, and that's it. So I didn't buy boots. I got home and to tell you the truth, I don't regret not buying boots. What are we talking about? I don't know. All right, Jessica, what is your question? Jay, where are your TV updates? Come on. Need a breakdown on the trash you are watching. Well, first of all, I take massive offense to you calling the TV that I watch trash. That's not true. It is trash. I only watch trash. So I'll give you an update. Not that you asked. Well, actually, you did ask on what it is that I have been watching. I just finished Sirens on Netflix with Julianne Moore. Did I like got better? I think the ending, I'm not going to spoil it was ridiculous. So I give it, you know, like a. Like a seven. I think it's worth watching. It was good. I just finished the fifth season of you, which I know nobody else watching Penn Bagley or whatever his name is. So that was good. I give that. I would also give that a 7. I just tried to start on Amazon. It just came out the Better Sister with Jessica Beal and it wasn't good. I didn't make it through the first episode. Very bored. I do. I give that a 4. Do not watch the Better Sister. I'm fully caught up on your Friends and Neighbors. This got better. It started out as a five in my book, but it rose up till I would say like an eight. So that's good one. Friends and Neighbors. That's on Apple. Everyone keeps telling me to watch Mob Land. I may watch that. But what I'm really going to watch, which just came out this week, is the new season of Below Deck. If you don't like reality tv, first of all, what's wrong with you? But second of all, a good show to start in the reality TV world is Below Deck. It's relaxing. Nothing terrible really happens. There's a lot of drama. You watch annoying people and you make fun of them. And every week there's new people. So Below Deck is great. They just season 12 just started this week. I'm all in. And the thing that I am on a countdown for which I know nobody cares about on this earth except for me, is Bachelor in Paradise. This is from the Bachelor franchise. Bachelor in paradise is back July 7. It has been a year, hasn't been around for a long time, and this is the best reality show that exists on planet Earth. So listen, that was a lot of information. A lot of very useless information. I appreciate you being here. You are very awesome. By the way, I started a new YouTube channel. Nobody cares. And if you want to check it out, I literally just started it. You can go to Weddleson. You'll never be able to spell it, but if you can figure out how to spell it, it's at Shwetleson. Hope you subscribe or whatever you're supposed to do on YouTube. 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Podcast Summary: "Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson"
Episode: NEW! ‘Un-AI’ Your Marketing = Huge Boost! Ask Us ANYTHING❓ | Ep. 348
Release Date: June 4, 2025
Host: Jay Schwedelson
Presented By: Marigold
In this episode of "Do This, NOT That," hosted by Jay Schwedelson and presented by Marigold, Jay delves into the challenges and strategies surrounding the use of AI tools in marketing. The episode features an "Ask Us Anything" segment where Jay addresses listener questions, providing actionable insights to help marketers stand out in an increasingly AI-dominated landscape.
Timestamp: [00:02] – [03:00]
Listener: Davey from Kansas City, Missouri
Question: "We use all the AI tools to help with our email copy and our social media copy, and our results are average at best. I feel like we are just blending in because everyone is using the same tools and tactics. Coming out of tools like ChatGPT, are there some anti AI things that we should be doing to stand out?"
Jay's Response:
Jay addresses the concern about AI-generated content leading to homogenization in marketing efforts. He references a study by Civic Science, revealing that 71% of business and consumer individuals can now spot AI-written content. This recognition often results in diminished engagement and performance.
Key Insights:
Avoid Overused Emojis:
"When we see it, whether it's in the subconscious or not, we now know that that's likely written by AI and for some reason that turns us off."
[Timestamp: 01:15]
Steer Clear of Common AI-Recommended Words:
"We don't want to stop unlocking everything. And now it's pulling down performance."
[Timestamp: 02:05]
Implement 'Un-AI' Strategies to Differentiate Content:
Expressive Spelling: Stretching words (e.g., "so gooood") or altering spellings to create a human touch.
"So good. You know, S O O O O O good."
[Timestamp: 02:45]
Intentional Typos: Deliberately misspelling words to grab attention.
Non-Standard Capitalization: Avoiding capitalization at the beginning of sentences or words.
"Don't capitalize anything. It stands out really, really well. It's also working on social posts for your headline copy."
[Timestamp: 03:00]
Conclusion:
Jay emphasizes that while AI tools like ChatGPT offer valuable assistance in content creation, relying solely on them can lead to generic and less effective marketing. By incorporating unique, human-centric tweaks—such as expressive spelling, intentional typos, and non-standard capitalization—marketers can significantly enhance their content's engagement and performance.
Timestamp: [03:00] – [Ending]
Listener: Jessica from Nashville, Tennessee
Question: "Jay, where are your TV updates? Come on. Need a breakdown on the trash you are watching."
Jay's Response:
In a lighter and more personal segment, Jay shares his recent TV-watching habits, providing recommendations and candid opinions on various shows.
Key Highlights:
Sirens (Netflix) with Julianne Moore:
You (Fifth Season):
The Better Sister (Amazon):
Friends and Neighbors (Apple):
Below Deck (Season 12):
Bachelor in Paradise:
Jay's Personal Touch:
Jay humorously addresses his foray into a new YouTube channel, inviting listeners to check it out despite his self-professed lack of expertise in managing it.
In this episode, Jay Schwedelson effectively balances valuable marketing insights with personal anecdotes, providing listeners with both professional strategies to enhance their marketing efforts and a glimpse into his personal interests. By addressing the pitfalls of over-reliance on AI tools and offering tangible solutions to make marketing content stand out, Jay empowers marketers to achieve better engagement and performance in their campaigns.
Notable Quotes:
"If you use [specific emojis], it’s lowering performance by about 15%."
— Jay Schwedelson
[Timestamp: 01:15]
"We don't want to stop unlocking everything. And now it's pulling down performance."
— Jay Schwedelson
[Timestamp: 02:05]
"Don't capitalize anything. It stands out really, really well. It's also working on social posts for your headline copy."
— Jay Schwedelson
[Timestamp: 03:00]
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