Podcast Summary

Podcast: Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson | Presented by Marigold
Episode: SPECIAL SERIES ==> Skip the Rules, Land the Job 💼 <== | BATHROOM Break #69 COLLAB
Date: August 18, 2025
Guests: Jay Schwedelson (Do This, Not That), Daniel Murray (The Marketing Millennials)
Theme: Unconventional Tips for Upleveling Your Marketing Career and Landing the Job

Episode Overview

This episode kicks off a quick-hit special series called Bathroom Break—short, high-impact chats designed to fit into your next bathroom break (or any brief stretch of downtime). Marketing thought leaders Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray unite from their respective podcasts for a fast-paced conversation loaded with actionable career advice, centering on how to move up in the marketing world, ace job searches, and sidestep outdated “rules.” The tone is casual, witty, and friendly, aiming to empower listeners with practical strategies that work in today’s landscape.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Early Career Anecdotes — Getting Personal

• Both hosts share their very first “jobs” to reveal humble beginnings and lighten the mood.
  • Daniel: Was a soccer referee for 4–5-year-olds at age 12.
    “You go to this like three-day program to like learn it. But it was cool.” (01:22 - Daniel)
  • Jay: Worked the security desk at a YMCA at 14: “Which is really weird because I was 14 and I was like, what am I going to do? Something bad happens here.” (01:32 - Jay)

2. Remove Graduation Years from Your Resume & LinkedIn

• Daniel’s Advice:
  • Don’t let age bias hurt job prospects.
  • “Remove the years you graduated off your resume and off your LinkedIn. Like you want to seem like you don’t want your age to be a bias...It could also hinder you for getting a bigger job.” (01:58 - Daniel)

3. Social Proof from the Hiring Side

• Jay:
  • He’s “hired well over a thousand people in my career,” bringing legit authority to his perspective.
  • It’s easier to be hired when you’re currently employed.
    • “If you already have a job...you are far more attractive to somebody that's hiring.” (02:39 - Jay)
    • Being “in between” jobs does make it harder, though not impossible.
  • The “stay one year at every company” rule is trash:
    • “That is hot mess, garbage, trash, right? If you are someplace that's toxic...leave.” (03:36 - Jay)
    • Be honest in interviews about why you left.

4. Always Take the Interview

• Daniel:
  • Don’t decline interviews, even when you’re employed.
    • “Never turn down an interview...your dream job could come land in your lap and you not knowing it.” (04:00 - Daniel)

5. Tailor Your Resume for Every Job Application

• Daniel:
  • Job descriptions are a direct map for resume tweaks.
    • “Customizing your resume to the points that are on that job description...if you can put results to that certain thing...put that on your resume.” (04:16 - Daniel)
• Jay:
  • Mass-uploading the same resume is lazy and ineffective:
    • “If they're looking for somebody that knows Shopify really well…put that front and center and customize each one of your uploads to that.” (05:37 - Jay)

6. Don’t Play by “Default” Application Rules—Stand Out!

• Jay:
  • Go beyond just submitting an application—connect directly with hiring managers:
    • “Find the person who is the senior person...and you DM them a note...that puts you to the top of the heap. You stand out. It works so, so well.” (06:02 - Jay)

7. Leverage LinkedIn Networks

• Daniel:
  • Use LinkedIn to identify mutual connections or alumni at prospective companies.
  • Message them for insight or a warm intro:
    • “If you can have another in through somewhere else, like LinkedIn already tells you this, so like why not use that?” (06:38 - Daniel)

8. Build Your Personal Brand Early

• Daniel:
  • Growing your personal brand magnifies perceived value:
    • “Building a personal brand...is my best thing that I ever did...because people thought I was better than some of these other marketing ops people...really I was just putting myself out there.” (07:08 - Daniel)
  • Treat your online presence as a “digital resume.”

Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• On perception and bias (age):
  “Just remove [graduation years] off your LinkedIn because it will...stunt you from getting a pay raise, a salary bump, or hinder you for getting a bigger job.” (01:58 - Daniel)

• On the “year” rule:
  “That is hot mess, garbage, trash...For you to sit there for a year because you think that anybody cares, news flash, they don’t.” (03:36 - Jay)

• On personal branding:
  “It is your digital resume as well.” (07:18 – Daniel)

• On standing out:
  “Find the person who is the senior person in that role...You send them that connection request with a custom note...that puts you to the top of the heap.” (06:02 – Jay)

Fun Banter & Lighter Moments

• Daniel’s “hustle” as a Runescape coin dealer at summer camp earned laughs:
  “It’s not a job, that’s like a hustle.” — Jay (08:24)
• Jay’s failed stint at a women’s clothing store—hoping to meet girls, but ending up an unpopular stock boy:
  “Made no friends. I got no...no girls like me coming out of it. It was one of the worst things I've ever done.” (09:10 – Jay)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------- |------------| | Light-hearted intro, first jobs | 00:01–01:54| | Remove graduation years from resume & age bias | 01:58–02:39| | Social proof, hiring tips | 02:39–04:00| | Always take an interview, customizing resumes | 04:00–05:37| | Tailoring applications, standing out via DMs | 05:37–06:38| | LinkedIn leverage, personal branding | 06:38–07:49| | Personal anecdotes, summer hustles, wrap-up | 07:49–10:29|

Takeaways

• Age bias is real—omit graduation years.
• Apply for jobs while employed, if possible.
• Don’t be afraid to leave toxic jobs, even quickly.
• Always take the interview—you never know what can come from it.
• Customization makes your resume stand out.
• Connect directly with hiring managers to break through the noise.
• Use networks and mutual contacts for inside leads.
• Build a personal brand early—it opens doors.

If you’re ready to skip the old rules and accelerate your marketing career, these tips are a must-listen (or must-read)!