DONKEY: Bill Clinton Deflects Question About Trump Testifying Over Epstein Files

Summary

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Donkey of the Day: Bill Clinton Deflects on Trump Testifying Over Epstein Files

Podcast: Donkey of the Day (Power 105.1 FM)
Host: Charlamagne tha God
Date: March 3, 2026

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Episode Overview

Charlamagne tha God delivers the "Donkey of the Day" award to former president Bill Clinton for his evasive response to a question about whether Donald Trump should testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee regarding the Epstein files. The episode dissects Clinton’s deposition performance, his reluctance to take a position, and contrasts it with Hillary Clinton’s forthright answer on the same subject. Charlamagne ties Clinton's behavior into broader themes of elite solidarity and evasion of accountability among political figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bill Clinton’s Deposition and Shady Optics

• Deposition Videos Surface: The episode kicks off with Charlamagne reacting to the public release of Clinton’s deposition connected to the Epstein files. Clinton is seen nostalgically flipping through photos of himself with Epstein.

  "You can see President Clinton flipping through old Epstein photos, smiling from ear to ear… his attorney had to pull the photos away from him, and Bill Clinton pulled him back." — Charlamagne [03:49]

• Awkward Questioning from Nancy Mace: Nancy Mace (R-SC) presses Clinton on Epstein’s alleged claim that Clinton "likes them young." Clinton volunteers "underage" rather than just "young," drawing attention to a carefully rehearsed distinction.

  • Notable exchange:

    Nancy Mace: “Epstein cases that Epstein said you, quote, like them young. Why would Epstein say that about you?” [04:23]
    Bill Clinton: “First of all, that's not true…” [04:45]
    Nancy Mace: “I didn't say underage. I said young.” [04:55]
    Bill Clinton: “But it's still not true.” [04:58]

  • Charlamagne’s breakdown:

    "Bill, Nancy is right… She didn't say ‘underage.’ She said ‘young.’ You volunteered the underage part. That was the line he was rehearsing preparing for this deposition." [05:04]

• Monica Lewinsky Reference: Mace points out that "young" can refer to a 22-year-old intern (Monica Lewinsky), not just minors.

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2. Clinton Dodges the Trump Testify Question

• The Core Donkey Moment: Clinton is asked, “Should Donald Trump have to testify in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee regarding the Epstein files?” He deflects:

  Bill Clinton: “That's for you to decide.” — [05:58]

• Charlamagne ridicules the dodge:

  “To get more information. That's all you got? That's for you to decide… That's cowardly. All right. That's up to you… But can you at least explain why you think they should?” [06:02, 06:50]

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3. Contrast With Hillary Clinton’s Directness

• Response from Hillary Clinton: Played as a comparison, Hillary answers decisively that Trump should testify and gives legal reasoning for it.

  Nancy Mace (reading Hillary’s statement): “Absolutely… If you were in court, what did you know about this person? Donald Trump has been held civilly liable for sexual assault… He would be on my witness list.” [06:15]

• Charlamagne highlights the difference:

  “Not only did she say yes, absolutely, she gave an explanation as to why it is a yes. One of these things is not like the others.” [06:50]

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4. Charlamagne's Critique: Elite Solidarity and Accountability

• Charlamagne suggests Clinton’s dodge is about “elite solidarity” rather than neutrality.

  “When political figures start answering a yes or no question like it's an essay prompt, it's because the real answer is… politically inconvenient or… they trying to save their own ass…” [07:56]

• He argues Clinton is protecting himself (and Trump) because their positions as “elites” transcend political rivalry.

  “What you are witnessing here is the fact that, as George Carlin said, this is one big club and we not in it… President Clinton and President Trump are wearing the same jersey… that's not being neutral, that's elite solidarity.” [09:07]

• Pointed Call-Out:

  “If you testified and your wife testified, why would it be so hard for President Trump to have to testify? … If you want it all out there, then why shouldn't he come testify?” [09:07]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Charlamagne’s Signature Sarcasm:

  “Simple question. Should Donald Trump have to testify… Listen to his answer.” [05:04]

• Bill Clinton’s “Club” Moment:

  “I hate this, but because I don't believe I should inject anything, but I do not want to leave the impression… I have no information that he did anything wrong. I just want it all out there. I want everybody to get it all out there and let everybody see where we are.” [08:24]

• Mic Drop Takeaway:

  “If you believe in accountability, it shouldn't depend on whose jersey the person is wearing.” [09:07]
  “Please give President Clinton the biggest hee haw. Yes, indeed.” [09:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:30] — Donkey of the Day intro and Clinton deposition context
• [04:23] — Nancy Mace grills Clinton about “liking them young”
• [05:58] — Clinton punts on the Trump testimony question
• [06:15] — Hillary Clinton’s clear stance played for contrast
• [07:56] — Charlamagne critiques political parsing and elite self-preservation
• [09:07] — Closing summary: “one big club,” accountability, and hee haw delivery

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Podcast Tone & Style

• Charlamagne’s delivery is biting, sarcastic, and direct, mixing humor with outrage.
• He uses memorable pop culture and political references (“big club,” “wearing the same jersey”) to underscore the theme of elite protectionism.
• The segment is fast-paced and focused, letting the deposition audio and commentary drive the narrative.

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In Summary:
This "Donkey of the Day" episode skewers Bill Clinton for conspicuously sidestepping a simple question about Trump and the Epstein files—an act that, as Charlamagne argues, reveals more about the unity of American political elites than any partisan divide. The show’s trademark blend of comedy, critique, and real talk makes it a must-listen for those following public accountability—or the lack thereof—among America’s powerful.

Transcript

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[Bill Clinton]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

This is America.

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[Nancy Mace]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Donkey of the day for Tuesday, March 3rd goes to William Jefferson Clinton, aka Bill. Okay? The 42nd president of the United States of America. If you don't know, yesterday, the Clinton's deposition videos from the Epstein files came out, and, boy, were they entertaining. Okay, well, the deposition videos about everything in the Epstein files came out, and they were very entertaining.

[Bill Clinton]

Okay?

[Charlamagne tha God]

There's one video where you can see President Clinton flipping through old Epstein photos, smiling from ear to ear, nodding his head, reminiscing about old times. Okay? His attorney had to pull the photos away from him, and Bill Clinton pulled him back. Like, let me get another look, man. I could see it in his eyes. He was thinking I was a wild boy. Okay, there's another part of the deposition where Congresswoman Nancy Mace of South Carolina said, hey, Bill, I heard you like him young. And Bill Manual Bill malfunctioned, okay? There was a glitch in the matrix. Let's listen.

[Nancy Mace]

Epstein cases that Epstein said you, quote, like them young. Why would Epstein say that about you?

[Reese Witherspoon]

Are you asking his opinion?

[Nancy Mace]

You're asking him to think about why Mr. Epstein would say something. Why would Epstein say that? She's asking you to try to be in Mr. Epstein's mind and guess at what Mr. Epstein would have thought about likes them young, referring to girls.

[Bill Clinton]

First of all, that's not true. What's not true? That I have any interest in underage.

[Nancy Mace]

I didn't say underage. I said. I said young.

[Bill Clinton]

But it's still not true.

[Nancy Mace]

Is an intern young?

[Bill Clinton]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Bill, Nancy is right, okay? She didn't say underage. She said young. You volunteered the underage part. That was the line he was rehearsing preparing for this deposition. Okay? I did not have sexual relations with underage women, but Nancy said young. And then she said, is an intern, young, referring to Monica Lewinsky because Monica was 22 years old when she began her relationship with Bill Clinton and he was 49. So Young doesn't mean underage. But that's not why we are gathered here today. We are gathered here today because Bill Clinton is getting the biggest he haw for the way he punted. The simple question, should Trump testify in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee? Simple question. Should Donald Trump have to testify in front of the House Oversight and and Government Reform Committee in regards to the Epstein files? Listen to his answer when asked that question to get more information for this investigation. Was wondering if you also agree that President Trump should answer questions of this committee.

[Bill Clinton]

That's for you to decide,

[Charlamagne tha God]

to get more information. That's all you got. That's for you to decide. Now compare that to when Hillary Clinton was asked, should Trump testify in front of the House Oversight Committee to get more information? Let's listen.

[Nancy Mace]

Absolutely. I was a lawyer. As a lawyer, you would look for pattern and practice if you were deposing a witness in a case that you were trying. If you were in court, what did you know about this person? Donald Trump has been held civilly liable for sexual assault by a jury of his peers. He has also been convicted on 34 felony counts for attempting to hide his relationship with a escort given pass and prior conduct. He would be on my witness list.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Not only did she say yes, absolutely, she gave an explanation as to why it is a yes. One of these things is not like the others. Hillary gave the answer. Okay. That is the actual answer. What Bill Clinton did was cowardly. All right. That's up to you. Just you to decide. Sure. Bill, you're right. It is up to them to decide. But can you at least explain why you think they should? Yes. President Trump should have to testify in front of the House Committee for all the reasons Hillary just laid out, not to mention for the amount of times his name has been mentioned in the files. And because it was revealed that the DOJ withheld Epstein files mentioning Trump. They're just trying to get information. Okay. That's it. They're just trying to get more information. So for Bill to say it's up to them to decide is cowardly. Okay. They called your wife into a deposition and questioned her and she said she didn't know Epstein couldn't even recall meeting him. Meanwhile, someone who was his actual friend mentioned in the files as much as President Trump has in front of Republicans. Yes. Who support him. You couldn't say yes, he should have to testify. And here are the reasons why. I guess it's hard to do that when you too worried about making sure your own dirt stays under the rug. Okay. See, when political figures start answering a yes or no question like it's an essay prompt, it's because the real answer is either A, politically inconvenient or B, they trying to save their own ass and don't want to throw the current president under the bus because they know he's crazy enough to get them arrested.

[Bill Clinton]

Arrested.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, if you testified and your wife testified, why would it be so hard for President Trump to have to testify? Especially Bill, if what you said here is true. Let's listen.

[Bill Clinton]

I hate this, but because I don't believe I should inject anything, but I do not want to leave the impression, since there was no follow up question, he never, the president never, this is 20 something years ago, never said anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything improper with regard to Epstein either. He just didn't. That's the truth. You know, as I said earlier, the only conversation I have with President Trump about this was in the early 2000s. And I have no information that he did anything wrong. I just want it all out there. I want everybody to get it all out there and let everybody see where we are.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So if you want it all out there, then why shouldn't he come testify? If he never said anything to you to make you think he was involved with Epstein, then let him come testify. What are, what you are witnessing here is the fact that, as George Carlin said, this is one big club and we not in it. Okay? If you believe in accountability, it shouldn't depend on whose jersey the person is wearing. And in this moment, President Clinton and President Trump are wearing the same jersey. Okay? President Clinton is doing some heavy blocking for President Trump right here. Because when former presidents start punting on basic questions about testimony for current presidents, that's not being neutral, that's elite solidarity. Please give President Clinton the biggest hee haw. Yes, indeed. All right, well, thank you for that donkey today. Yes, ma'.

[Bill Clinton]

Am.

[Charlamagne tha God]

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