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Debbie Brown
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Debbie Brown
Really?
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Debbie Brown
The story I told myself can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection this mental health awareness month. Tune into the podcast Deeply well with Debbie Brown. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more, listen to Deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Charlamagne Tha God
Protein packed meals in 10 minutes. TikTok's got millions of them. Could you whip one up in under eight? Probably. But hey, it's not a race. Grab the recipes on TikTok and start cooking. Donkey of the Day. Damn the Hee Haw again. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I ain't trying to be donkey today no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things called Donkey of the Day and it really caught me off guard. Damn Charlamagne. Who got the donkey of the day today? Well, Jess, hilarious. Donkey of the day for Wednesday, April 29 goes to a Wisconsin woman named Michaela Cloth and she was charged Monday with first degree intentional murder. Okay. Prosecutors said she stabbed her boyfriend at her apartment. What leaves a person to do such a heinous act? Well, let's go to ABC News 12 for the report, please.
News Reporter
Lucas Rosch of Delafield was a lot of things to his family. A loving son and brother, a special uncle, a devoted dog dad. But the 25 year old's life came to a shocking end at this Okachi apartment Friday night. Stabbed to death, prosecutors say by his longtime girlfriend, 27 year old Michaela Cloth. She Admits saying, I stabbed him if you have to take me to jail, okay? According to the criminal complaint issued at Cloth's court hearing Monday, she told investigators Lucas was, quote, pushing her buttons because he brought chicken over to cook at the apartment when, quote, she would rather go out. This complaint indicates that this young lady got into an. Ultimately got into an argument because he brought home chicken to eat instead of taking her out. According to the complaint, Cloth admitted to investigators she was stabbed Lucas because, quote, she was angry and went on to say, quote, she should have just gone to the bar and the whole thing was just irritating.
Charlamagne Tha God
First things first. Rest in peace to 25 year old Lucas Roche. Okay? Dead, deceased.
DJ Envy
Damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Over chicken, okay? Poultry that he intended to fry in an air fryer. How much does chicken cost in Wisconsin? Probably close to $5 a pound. Maybe more than that in this climate. And that's not even the farm raised chicken, okay? Farm raised chicken, probably $18 to $30 per bird. This young man, Lucas, had chicken drum sticks, okay? In Wisconsin, chicken drumsticks cost between A$9 and 250 per pound. He was gonna cook them himself in the air fryer. What a man. Dropping a clues bomb for Lucas Ross. Man, what a man. What a man. What a man. This young man did what he's supposed to do, okay? Bought some dinner home. And this woman, Michaela, okay? Michaela Clough was not appreciative, okay? She wanted to go out to eat. Were you not in the mood for chicken? Did you ask him to take you somewhere nice like Popeyes, KFC even? Oh, you wanted to go to chicken man, Or Gold Rush chicken or Tom Ken's. But this young man, Lucas Ross, said, no, no, no. We got chicken at the house. And because he was thoughtful, because he actually cared, and because you are ungrateful, Lucas is no longer with us kids. Let me explain something to y', all, man. If your significant other, the person you love, is pushing your buttons, if the person you love is making you upset and an argument ensues, go somewhere and. And take a breath, okay? Go take your shoes off and walk in some grass. Go hug a tree. Go outside and look to the sky. Look at the sun. Inhale, exhale, say a prayer, phone a friend. Hell, if you get to the point where you feel so enraged that you want to do something violent, drive yourself to wherever it is you wanted to go and order your own damn chicken wing. She said she wanted to go to the bar. She should have left and went to the bar, okay? She should have called a ride share Went to the bar, had a drink, ordered some damn chicken wings, cooled off and then came back home. And Lucas would still be alive today. I just don't understand a 27 year old woman throwing their life away because you didn't like the dinner plans. Life in prison because she didn't like what her man bought home for dinner. Do you understand the risk Lucas took bringing home those drumsticks to begin with? Because women never, and I mean never seem to know what they want to eat. Okay? I would bet money that Lucas and Michaela had a conversation prior about dinner. And Michaela hit him. Michaela hit him with the. The. You choose. You choose. So he chose. And she still wasn't satisfied. And now Lucas is dead. My brothers, if women killed us every time they weren't happy with our dinner choices, I don't think it would be any men left, okay? Just a world full of hungry women who have no choice but to eat each other. Okay? Michaela told police if they had to lock her up, that was cool. She took full responsibility like it was nothing. Okay? If you ask me, not showing no remorse, I don't understand this. Okay? You killed someone because you didn't like what he bought you for dinner. But now you're going to spend the rest of your life in a facility where you have absolutely zero control over the menu. Another, you know, temporary feeling that has led to a permanent consequence. Please let Remy Ma give Michaela Cloth the biggest he hawk.
Debbie Brown
Hee haw.
News Reporter
Hee haw.
Charlamagne Tha God
You stupid motherf. Are you dumb?
DJ Envy
So dumb. That's crazy. It has got to be something else wrong with her. There's no way that she did that because she just wanted to go out to eat. It gotta be something going on with her.
Charlamagne Tha God
She said he was pushing her buttons. That's what she said. He was pushing my buttons.
DJ Envy
Nah, something else going on with Shorty. All right, well, thank you for that donkey today, sir.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, indeed. Rest in peace to Lucas Ross again. Yes.
DJ Envy
Now, when we come back, former New York Knick, former NBA player John Starks will be joining us. We're going to talk to him next. And congratulations to the New York Knicks. We won last night. We got one more game to get Atlanta up out of here. I'm surprised you're not even jumping up and down. Not yet. Because the Knicks. The Knicks can nick me out.
Charlamagne Tha God
So let's just.
DJ Envy
We just gonna calm it down a little bit.
Charlamagne Tha God
It sounded nasty, but that was unnecessary. It was just unnecessary. You didn't have to say it like the Knicks can nick you out Knicks can nick you out. They can nick you down too, huh? They can. They can nick you up and down until you say stop. You have good eyes, man.
DJ Envy
We're gonna talk to John Stoss when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Debbie Brown
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Oh, no.
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Debbie Brown
The story I told myself can then shape my behavior. And that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection this mental health awareness month. Tune into the podcast Deeply well with Debbie Brown. If you've been searching for a soft place to to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more, listen to Deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Podcast: Donkey of the Day, Power 105.1 FM (The Breakfast Club)
Host: Charlamagne Tha God (with DJ Envy)
Date: April 29, 2026
Theme: Exploring an extreme domestic violence case and the absurdity of losing one’s life over a dinner disagreement, with Charlamagne awarding “Donkey of the Day”.
In this emotionally charged episode of “Donkey of the Day”, Charlamagne Tha God spotlights a tragic and startling case from Wisconsin where Michaela Cloth fatally stabbed her boyfriend, Lucas Rosch, after an argument over dinner plans. The discussion delves into the senselessness of such violence, emphasizing emotional regulation, pitfalls of impulsivity, and broader themes around taking responsibility for one’s actions. The episode delivers a mix of disbelief, dark humor, cultural commentary, and practical advice for conflict resolution in relationships.
[01:20 – 02:17]
[02:17 – 03:26]
[03:26 – 06:38]
Charlamagne’s main points:
“First things first. Rest in peace to 25 year old Lucas Roche. Dead, deceased.” – Charlamagne Tha God [03:26]
“Women never, and I mean never, seem to know what they want to eat. I would bet money that Lucas and Michaela had a conversation prior about dinner. And Michaela hit him with the...‘You choose. You choose.’ So he chose. And she still wasn’t satisfied.” – Charlamagne Tha God [05:13]
“If the person you love is making you upset and an argument ensues, go somewhere and…take a breath…If you get to the point where you feel so enraged that you want to do something violent, drive yourself to wherever it is you wanted to go and order your own damn chicken wing.” – Charlamagne Tha God [04:23]
[06:38 – 06:44]
“You stupid motherf. Are you dumb?” – Charlamagne Tha God [06:40]
[06:44 – 06:58]
“That’s crazy. It has got to be something else wrong with her. There’s no way that she did that because she just wanted to go out to eat.” – DJ Envy [06:44]
[07:04 – 07:06]
“Rest in peace to Lucas Ross again.”
The tone is incredulous, darkly humorous, and cautionary—mixing empathy for the victim with cultural observations and blunt, sometimes brash language. Charlamagne leans on comedic timing to emphasize the stupidity and permanence of the crime, but also punctuates the segment with genuine respect for the victim and sincere advice about conflict resolution.
This “Donkey of the Day” exemplifies the show’s blend of social critique, raw honesty, and memorable punchlines. Charlamagne uses the tragic case as a springboard to reflect on the dangers of unchecked emotion, the absurdity of destructive relationship drama, and the importance of thinking before acting. The hosts underline how one impulsive action—triggered by something as trivial as dinner—can ruin many lives, all while maintaining the show's trademark mix of wit, wisdom, and candor.