A Husband and Wife Do Life. Danielle's FIRST recording with David Dellen.

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Don't Cut Your Own Bangs"

Episode: A Husband and Wife Do Life
Host: Danielle Ireland
Guest: David Dellen
Release Date: February 13, 2023

In the inaugural episode of "Don't Cut Your Own Bangs," host Danielle Ireland steps into her first recording alongside her husband, David Dellen. This intimate and candid conversation sets the tone for the podcast’s mission to bridge the gap between where listeners are and where they aspire to be, all while embracing the messy middle with humor and heartfelt insights.

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1. Celebrating the Beginning

Danielle opens the episode with heartfelt gratitude, expressing her amazement and joy at launching the podcast. She introduces David not only as her husband but also as a talented businessman with a philanthropic spirit. Their chemistry is palpable as they laugh over the imperfections of their first recording session, highlighting the authentic and relatable nature of the show.

Danielle Ireland [00:44]: "We made a thing. And the fact that you're listening, you've helped me create this thing and share."

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2. The Origin of "Don't Cut Your Own Bangs"

The duo delves into the inspiration behind the podcast's unique name. Danielle shares a personal story about her childhood struggles with her hair, symbolizing the broader theme of accepting and embracing one's true self.

David Dellen [06:13]: "The podcast name was honestly inspired by just my friend Lindsay and I were laughing about like embarrassing childhood moments."

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3. Embracing Mistakes and Learning

Both Danielle and David recount personal anecdotes where mistakes led to growth. Danielle describes her embarrassing moment singing the national anthem at a high school basketball game, while David shares Tyler’s (possibly Danielle’s middle name or nickname) experience of forgetting lyrics during a college performance. These stories underscore the podcast’s focus on making big feelings and failures feel less daunting.

Danielle Ireland [07:14]: "I really tried to model hairstyles based off of people that had maybe a third of the amount of hair I did. Naturally, it was always disastrous."

Tyler [28:45]: "I was so pissed. It was all right. I mean, it's one of those things for like a solid couple years..."

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4. Defining Success Amid External Pressures

The conversation shifts to the challenges of defining personal success, especially in the context of business and societal expectations. Tyler (Danielle) articulates the struggle of balancing customer satisfaction, stockholder demands, and personal well-being.

Tyler [36:04]: "One feeling like I'm a success at all... it's feeling like a success is a tough thing for me to define for myself."

David Dellen [44:02]: "The people that around you feeling happy and having their needs met... that really does circle around."

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5. Mentoring and Impacting Youth

Danielle highlights her involvement in the Big Brother program, emphasizing the importance of positive role models for youth. She shares touching moments of mentoring and the reciprocal joy of connecting with younger generations.

Tyler [45:20]: "Even being able to show them what they're able to, what they can learn from a positive influence..."

David Dellen [45:27]: "We do a lot of singing together... he's getting older."

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6. Navigating Technology in Work and Life

The hosts discuss the dual nature of technology—its ability to connect and its potential to create stress. Tyler expresses a love-hate relationship with technological demands in business, balancing the benefits of connectivity with the pressures of constant availability.

Tyler [48:23]: "The amount of interaction with people lessens your... it's even becoming a generational gap for millennials and younger..."

David Dellen [49:42]: "That's affecting our marriage customers."

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7. Light-Hearted Banter and Future Plans

As the episode progresses, Danielle and David engage in playful banter, discussing hypothetical scenarios like being animals and the challenges of podcasting together. Their humorous exchanges reinforce the podcast’s promise to blend personal growth with laughter.

Tyler [51:48]: "If you could be any animal, what would it be and why?"

David Dellen [55:56]: "If anyone is still listening at this point. You are heroic. You are wonderful. You're majestic."

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with reflections on their dynamic as co-hosts and the enduring support they offer each other. Danielle and David express excitement for future episodes, promising more life lessons, shenanigans, and genuine conversations.

David Dellen [66:10]: "You keep doing this let the record show thing."

Tyler [67:29]: "Bye."

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Notable Quotes:

• Danielle Ireland [07:14]: "It was always disastrous."
• David Dellen [36:28]: "We find ways to be of service."
• Tyler [38:29]: "Success is a tough thing for me to define for myself."
• Tyler [44:02]: "Success is feeling happy and having people like the work that you do."
• David Dellen [55:35]: "This has been a delight."

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This first episode of "Don't Cut Your Own Bangs" offers listeners a sincere and humorous glimpse into Danielle and David’s lives, setting the foundation for a podcast dedicated to navigating the complexities of personal and professional growth together.

Transcript

[Danielle Ireland]

Just a quick side note, for any listeners that might have little ones around, these are conversations that are targeted for adults. They're happening between adults. There is some potential for adult subject matter or adult language. Keep that in mind. This is hardly an R rated podcast, so please don't feel like you have to go down into your basement and hide under a blanket to listen. But it might be something you want to be mindful of if you've got a little one in a car seat. Hello, this is Danielle Ireland with Don't Cut yout Own Bank. And we made it. We did it. We have crossed the finish line. This is the concluding episode, the final episode of season one. We did it.

[David Dellen]

We made it. We're here.

[Danielle Ireland]

I am floored. I'm amazed. I'm beyond words, and that's maybe troubling considering that this is a podcast and it's all audio, so I should probably find some words. But needless to say, my heart is just bursting with just joy and gratitude that this is a thing. We made a thing. And the fact that you're listening, you've helped me create this thing and share.

[David Dellen]

It with the world.

[Danielle Ireland]

And I just cannot be more appreciative and also incredibly proud to share this special episode. So before I introduce the guest, I'd like to share why I decided to include this episode. This is the very, very first recording I ever did, ever. My first attempt at an interview. So it's rough. We were also drinking wine, which I've come to find is probably not the best practice when you're trying to have a meaningful conversation, at least on if you want it to be cogent and coherent and all those other great adjectives. But, yeah, that's what it was. And you might call this my Act 2, Scene 1, because it's the very, very, very, very beginning of my messy middle and figuring my way through this whole podcast journey. But it also happens to be with my favorite person on the planet, my husband, David Dellen. Not only is he an incredibly gifted and talented businessman, he has a philanthropic heart, a generous spirit, and he's also, he's been told he's an old soul. I think sometimes that's just code for sometimes he gets a little serious. But in this episode, you get to see, I think, some of the best of him when he's just lighthearted and joyful and silly and playful. And that's definitely, definitely what he was here. He's an incredible guest and I want to interview him again to really highlight him properly, because he was doing more of you might even say he was interviewing me more than I was interviewing him. Probably because he could tell that I was nervous and he was trying to help me out. But you get a great taste of who he is as a human and you also probably get a more intimate look at what my life is like on a day to day because there's a lot of husbandly and wifely banter. You also hear there is a mistake that I make in the episode. I can't remember where it is exactly. So this will be a fun little Easter egg for you to find. There is a mistake where I say that I said one thing, he corrects me. I told him that he heard it wrong and it turns out he was correct. So what a great way to live your life, folks. This is my advice to all married couples. Record every conversation. That way you have evidence when someone's wrong. Just a little nugget of final pearl of wisdom from me to you. Just record every conversation you ever have and then you always have evidence. We'll just call this exhibit A that I was wrong.

[Tyler]

And.

[Danielle Ireland]

This is just a really incredibly fun conversation and I hope you enjoy ending with where I began on this journey and enjoy learning and listening and laughing with David and I.

[David Dellen]

Part of this means I do have to find music. So maybe you could sing my intro music.

[Tyler]

This is my wife. It's a podcast.

[David Dellen]

Really Good life.

[Tyler]

I'm pretty sure that would suck, but yours would be lovely. Mine, Whatever. You need positive attitude.

[David Dellen]

You know, it's funny how you talk with someone every day, but then you put a microphone in front of them and headphones that make them look like a giant bug and all of a sudden it's like.

[Tyler]

I thought you were about to say giant butt. It'll be just as easy. Equally appliable. Unfortunately, it's a pretty big butt.

[David Dellen]

I don't know how to start this, so my thought was to kind of start getting you to talk about TV first. Since I know you like talking about tv.

[Tyler]

What typically you're supposed to do is say, okay, but let.

[David Dellen]

Let me introduce you. Hey, hey, world. This is Danielle Ireland Dellen. Which probably it'll just be Dana Ireland on the podcast records Crash scissors. And welcome to the first attempt at don't cut your own bangs. I know, it's kind of cool. I know, right? This is the launch for launch of Dreams. Look out, Oprah, here she comes. And yeah, don't cut your own bangs. I'll cut in an intro of what this is actually going to be about. No, before.

[Tyler]

Let's me interview you on this one? No, no. What is your. Let's talk about it.

[David Dellen]

Because you're high, Julianne. A little bit.

[Tyler]

I understand that, but I'm going to be interviewing. You're going to be interviewing. So what was your inspiration for the term, the title? Don't cut your own things.

[David Dellen]

Oh my God, I'm so glad you asked. What a well thought, well crafted questions.

[Tyler]

I'm pretty good at this. Go ahead, shut up. Maybe I should be host.

[David Dellen]

No, no. Maybe you can be my occasional co host. What was that up from South Park? My DJ co host, Ralphie.

[Tyler]

That was Parks and Recreation.

[David Dellen]

That's what I said.

[Tyler]

I thought you said South Park. My bad.

[David Dellen]

Well, the record will show when we.

[Tyler]

Yes, the record will stay. I don't know if I like this. Keep going.

[David Dellen]

Anyway, we should record our whole lives. Oh my God. Reality show. Okay, so what inspired the podcast or the name? The podcast name was honestly inspired by just my friend Lindsay and I were laughing about like embarrassing childhood moments and embarrassing childhood stories and a lot of mine involved my hair because I kind of had Hermione Granger hair in like, but the first Harry Potter movie. Hermione Granger hair, like just, she was really awkward. Just that untamed, wild like mane kind of just puff hair. And I really tried to model hairstyles based off of people that had maybe a third of the amount of hair I did and naturally really smooth. And so when I would try to either cut my own bangs or try to style my hair, stick straight, it just. When I was resisting my natural state, it always, it was always disastrous.

[Tyler]

So.

[David Dellen]

So yeah, just started laughing with friends about embarrassing moments and what was fun about sharing. It wasn't just the sharing, which can feel good too, but it was also, I don't know, just being able to laugh about it. It wasn't like we were laughing at like being bullied, we weren't laughing at like traumatic events, but just sort of laughing in that shared human experience of feeling awkward and not feeling good enough and being able to connect with people that way. Just, I don't know. I don't know. It warmed my heart and I thought, why not record these conversations?

[Tyler]

Like a warm blanket.

[David Dellen]

Like a warm blanket.

[Tyler]

Lovely. That's cool. It's a really cool concept. I'm especially kind of sharing in other people's. I don't know. Those are the typically those stories you can look back and say, well, we'll laugh about this one day.

[David Dellen]

Not sound exactly, exactly right. My fear was that this would turn into like, let's laugh at, you know, people being teased and made fun of. And that's not it. You have to tread this fine line between what can we laugh about safely and what turns into, like, laughter, like, laugh, cry. Whereas, like, so you have to kind of tread that lightly.

[Tyler]

So do you plan on. I mean, in this case, is it going to be more. Would you say female guests or is this going to be just about anybody? I know your focus is much more. Trying to be more on the female side of things.

[David Dellen]

Would you like to say female?

[Tyler]

It is not male.

[David Dellen]

I am going to use the appropriate term and I am going to be correct. And I am not going to step on a landmine and say anything that could be anything other than let's just.

[Tyler]

All say the words that we need to say.

[David Dellen]

No, why don't we not say, Are.

[Tyler]

You sure we talked about this. We were talking about words that you can say and cannot say. And I believe the only one that I have to say in this particular podcast. Sure.

[David Dellen]

I don't know what you're about to say, and I'm scared shirt. That has nothing to do with being female.

[Tyler]

It has nothing to do with the show. That's the best part.

[David Dellen]

So if anyone ever listens to this, let's just. Let's just assume that I have listeners. Let's just be very assumptive and say, oh, my gosh, this is wildly, massively successful. And anyone listening? So we were having a conversation prior to deciding we were going to try to test record this. Oh, this is, by the way, our Saturday date night. Put him to work, ladies.

[Tyler]

We don't go to a fan and find Damon. We don't. We don't go clubbing. We. We do podcasts.

[David Dellen]

Oh, George. Well, you know. Yeah, this is real. It's sexy.

[Tyler]

So there's a story about sharding.

[David Dellen]

Oh, yeah. So I just. I don't know. I was trying to think of a word I wouldn't want him to say, and I was like, you can't say sharp. He was like, why not? It's hilarious. I'm like, oh, God.

[Tyler]

Literally is awesome.

[David Dellen]

It took you, what, less than two minutes to say the one thing I asked you to not say. Okay, okay. Let me. Let me turn the tables on you here. Okay, okay. Who's doing the interviewing? That would be me.

[Tyler]

If you're turning the tables asking the question, it was me, but okay, we.

[David Dellen]

Can do, you know, the record will show. Did that comment make sense? We think it's. It didn't. Okay. So anyway, I Want to start with a little warm up Question? So let's talk about your favorite childhood movies and TV shows. Like what. What would you say? And the thing is, like, I already think I know some of these, but.

[Tyler]

Well, then you guess. What are they?

[David Dellen]

Well, no, this isn't a game show. This isn't like the Dating Game. But tell me, like, if you had a show that could. That just really, really encapsulated your childhood.

[Tyler]

We watched the Simpsons that. Honestly.

[David Dellen]

I knew it.

[Tyler]

I know. It's because it was meant to be the model dysfunctional family that you had, you know?

[David Dellen]

Oh, God. Sorry. Sorry. Dalin family. This is so embarrassing.

[Tyler]

No, I know, I know. But you've got the mom that's always trying to make sure everybody's okay and care of food cooked and all that stuff. And the dad that just doesn't quit quite seem to get things right. And the troublemaking son, the bookworm sister, and then the. The baby that somehow just nearly skates dying just by an every damn episode.

[David Dellen]

So which one were you?

[Tyler]

I always wanted to be Bart, but I more empathize with Lisa, unfortunately.

[David Dellen]

You did, didn't you?

[Tyler]

And I didn't like it. I did not like it because Lisa was honestly my least favorite character. But.

[David Dellen]

But, oh, man, one day I'm gonna be awesome like Bart. I'm gonna. I'm gonna skateboard and cause trouble.

[Tyler]

I skateboarded once when I was a teenager, and it did not end well.

[David Dellen]

Oh, my God, babe. I didn't either. I could never get the other foot off the ground. I would just scoot with one foot on the ground.

[Tyler]

Okay, I got better than that. Hey, it's not a competition, but I win. Yeah, but no Simpsons was great. We didn't get to watch South Park. I know we love that show now, but I didn't get to watch south park as a kid especially. It was extremely and still is a very adult movies. And we rented Hook that one time. Okay? So for listeners, what's funny is, is that you. You watch a movie as a child and you're like, absolutely. Every time Hook came on tbs, it was like, oh, stop what you're doing. We're turning on Hook and we're watching it through the entire way through. Didn't matter what part. You always just started from there. You watched it and it made into a good Sunday. It was like, hook is on t tbs. It's gonna be a good Sunday. And when we bought it on itunes to then see that, it got a Rotten tomatoes of like 40%, which is my End all the Be all by Rotten Tomatoes. And it is yet to lead me wrong.

[David Dellen]

Nuh. There are some movies that are Rotten Tomatoes. It's like it's 80%. You're like, no, this is 100% a movie. Rotten Tomatoes.

[Tyler]

Maybe one.

[David Dellen]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I'm more thinking in the other direction that somebody said it was Rotten Tomatoes was high. But then we also found that Rotten Tomatoes was owned by one of the film companies or something like that.

[David Dellen]

Scandal.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's why Rotten Tomatoes.

[David Dellen]

You have a bias. You've just been outed.

[Tyler]

They need to be your next guest.

[David Dellen]

Just not a person. Just Rotten Tomatoes.

[Tyler]

But anyway, the point being is that the Rotten Tomatoes hook gave him such a crappy rating. And then when you watch it through as an adult, you're like, now I see why. It was great. But it was also corny.

[David Dellen]

Like that little girl singing the song did Julia Roberts Tinker. I just remember it was very breathy. Like, I don't remember how it goes. Oh, wait, wait. Not alone. Oh, my love.

[Tyler]

Slightly on pitch, but then. Yeah, yeah, slightly on pitch and then slightly off pitch all at the same time.

[David Dellen]

But they all thought she was so adorable.

[Tyler]

What amazed me in that movie. And I know Robin Williams obviously will always be in a warm place in our hearts, but Dustin Hoffman, I could never get in my mind that that was him until the wig came off and the mustache and that. You just saw me like, okay, that's Dustin Hoffman. Until that happened, I had no clue it was him. But I loved Hook.

[David Dellen]

What about Goonies? Were you a Goonies fan?

[Tyler]

My older brother liked it a lot more than I did. It was a good movie. Don't get me wrong. I did like it after the time that I saw it. But that was definitely. That was very. That was like late 80s, wasn't it? And he would have been 8 or 9 when that came out. I was only like 3 or 4.

[David Dellen]

Well, let's go back to Simpsons, since that was the one that really just kind of carries you through. What. So what was it about that show that you connected to? Because you have alcoholic dad and all of his friends are alcoholic fathers.

[Tyler]

I know, but I don't. I think that was an indirect thing. I never really connected with the Spiderman. It was. Honestly, it was the humor. It was this. And they even have an episode on the south park about it.

[David Dellen]

Simpsons did it.

[Tyler]

On the Facebook. They. They did episodes that were about that. Because Simpsons cover just about everything. But some of the. The first 10 seasons were some of the best I mean, and then you look back, it's tough to watch, like, I don't know, as soon to be parents one of these days. What, when. If they were like, dad, what did you watch as a child? And I'd be like, here's the Simpsons. And like, would I be okay with them watching Itchy and Scratchy kill each other. Kill each other when they're 10 or 12, like I did when I was a kid?

[David Dellen]

Well, so think about. So like the Simpsons and then Married With Children.

[Tyler]

Like, I watched some of that, but.

[David Dellen]

Married with Children was like, almost like the real life. Like the real life version of Simpsons. Like it. And somehow like the country loved it. It was.

[Tyler]

But it was really new pig.

[David Dellen]

It was kind of messed up. Like when I was in grad school, we took an episode of Married with Children to dissect in terms of bias.

[Tyler]

Like. Like what you guys use as an example.

[David Dellen]

Yeah. I mean, we talked about like family dynamics and the way that, you know, you have like an over sexualized daughter and then you have, you know, just the, just all of the dysfunction in the family and just. Yeah, yeah, children.

[Tyler]

That's interesting.

[David Dellen]

Yeah. I mean, but you could also argue the same with Simpsons. You could probably even say that with Family Guy if you really wanted to dissect it.

[Tyler]

Is it funny to see he's now went from Was it Al Bundy into being the dad on Modern Family? It's very much, very much of a change. But no, Simpsons was a great show. They did a really good job with the writing. Oh, yeah, I know. Conan o' Brien was on it for a while. As far as the writing goes, do.

[David Dellen]

You have a favorite episode? I want you to think long and hard and let's let it be completely silent on the podcast while you. I can't do it.

[Tyler]

I know. Probably one of my favorite one was the Itchy and Scratchy Land because they made it seem like it was Jurassic Park. And then one of the funniest things was, is like when Bart goes into the, the. The convenience store, right? One of the convenience shops. Like, they just do it at Disney World. You can go in there and get like a license plate with your name on it. Then he goes like, bba, BBB it goes down to Bart and there's no Bart. There's a Bort B O R T and all. And all of a sudden they make fun of it the entire episode. Like, the mom's like, bart, look, they have your name tag. And like he's like, what the hell? Where's Bart? And Then by the end of the episode, they're like, attention, you know, stalking people. We are out abort license plates. Just screw with them. But they made it just about that. And of course, Itchy and Scratchy Land was being ran over by robots and they end up trying to take over. And it's very much like Jurassic Park. But remember when we went to Universal Studios in LA and they had the Simpsons ride there? I did it, what, three times?

[David Dellen]

Yeah, you should have it.

[Tyler]

It was honestly my favorite because it brought back all such great memories.

[David Dellen]

You could also get Duff Beer. Wasn't that the best? Really? Actually, it was pretty great.

[Tyler]

I'm pretty sure it was like line at Google or something like that. But it's pretty darn good.

[David Dellen]

I feel like the Duff Beer made me really angry though. By the time I realized that Harry Potter Land wasn't opened yet when we.

[Tyler]

Went, that was bullshit. I wanted my butter beer.

[David Dellen]

Did we just go to Universal to drink beer?

[Tyler]

Maybe. I understand. So what's next on the list?

[David Dellen]

You can't just tell. You can't. I have to lead into the next question. You're ruining it.

[Tyler]

We're gonna take a quick break for station identification. Thank you for listening to National Public Radio and we appreciate your contribution. We hope you will continue to donate to the Don't Cut your Bangs Foundation. Appreciate you coming. It is now 9:30.

[David Dellen]

Thank you. So I want to so to jump into the through line. What connects the shape that's our dog scratching herself and her leash.

[Tyler]

Appropriately.

[David Dellen]

Yeah, appropriately. She's looking over like, what, guys? So, yeah, don't cut your own bangs. At some point we need to cover, I don't know, like a childhood story that shaped you and molded you into the steely eyed man you are today. And yeah, let's make sure to preface this with an event or a story that you've processed. And she's got to find her spot. And she settled.

[Tyler]

The queen has found her throne. That's a solid good question.

[David Dellen]

A solid good. Is that one Jolly good.

[Tyler]

Jolly good.

[David Dellen]

Solid good.

[Tyler]

Jolly good. Yeah. That framed me who I am today.

[David Dellen]

And that's probably just an overloaded question.

[Tyler]

It is a very big question.

[David Dellen]

Or is there like a childhood story that happened to you that you just think is funny?

[Tyler]

Well, I can't think of anyone thinks particularly it's funny.

[David Dellen]

I think I had more fun laughing at you. So I can name like five?

[Tyler]

Sure.

[David Dellen]

What about that one time?

[Tyler]

I will say this is that I always. I mean, as you know, I never had a girlfriend until I was 18. So I picture myself as, like, I was the guy through most of my life until I met you. I think I still kind of am now after the fact. I was always every girl's best friend, but I also saw Like It. You know, they even make movies about this. I'm pretty sure.

[David Dellen]

Like, I have news for you. I just. I have always just thought.

[Tyler]

You sure?

[David Dellen]

God, not only did you ruin my joke that I was trying to make, but you brought up the word. And I don't even hate that word. But it was just the one thing I asked you not to say.

[Tyler]

I was telling a story. And then you had an interview. What do you have to say? So I go back to my story.

[David Dellen]

You interrupted me with sharding.

[Tyler]

America agrees with me.

[David Dellen]

Tell your America. Yeah, America.

[Tyler]

America's on the other end of this microphone.

[David Dellen]

I hope America's listening. I hope they are. They get to see another side of you.

[Tyler]

Okay, well, what were you gonna say?

[David Dellen]

I don't remember.

[Tyler]

You don't?

[David Dellen]

Let the record show I don't remember.

[Tyler]

Okay. Point being, as far as what shaped me was, is that I always saw what guys were doing to girls wrong. And, like, you know, you see how much they're about different stuff, or they, you know, say the wrong thing, or they choose the wrong stuff over the over, you know, their partner. I mean, granted, we were young at the time, so it wasn't like, this is your life. Partners.

[David Dellen]

Did you have a partner at 18? You would have introduced a girlfriend as a partner?

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no, no. But funny. But that said, the idea of these, you know, guys always doing stupid stuff, and the girls would come to me, and I. It would always be like, david, you just understand me. Blah, blah, blah. Thanks for being such a good friend. No, no.

[David Dellen]

I bet it happened a lot. They're like, oh, David, you just. You just understand me. And then hand gently touches me.

[Tyler]

Nope, never.

[David Dellen]

You just get me.

[Tyler]

I wasn't as good looking as I am today.

[David Dellen]

Whoa. Someone's feeling pretty good about those. I'm sorry.

[Tyler]

I'm, like, 30 pounds lighter than I was in high school. That was huge.

[David Dellen]

Aw, you pulled a Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Tyler]

I was very. I love Chris Pratt for that exact reason. So. But no, it's. No, that's definitely something that I feel like, shaped me.

[David Dellen]

And to see what CrossFit or that story.

[Tyler]

No, no, not CrossFit. It's more just shaped me because I'm. I have that ability to, I guess, understand people and understand what they're going through. And in this case, it Helped me as far as being a better, I believe, a partner to you to be able to understand, I don't know the pitfalls of the typical man because we do so many stupid things.

[David Dellen]

Yeah, you do.

[Tyler]

Yeah. We're a bunch of idiots. That's what we are. But idiots. Yeah, but. Yeah, no, it's. That's what I would say for me, has shaped me for who I am today. I still am making mistakes almost daily, but that's okay.

[David Dellen]

Was there a girl that, like, you were friends with, that you wanted to be more than friends with?

[Tyler]

Oh, sure.

[David Dellen]

Oh, oh, sure.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that was. That was high school for me. Like I told you, I didn't date anybody until I was almost out of high school.

[David Dellen]

Sensitive bitch.

[Tyler]

I can't say shirt, but you can say bitch.

[David Dellen]

Listen, it's my podcast.

[Tyler]

It is true. Okay. But anyway, yeah, no, I always liked girl. I can probably name at least four or five different girls from the time of grade school all the way through high school that I liked that never liked me back. Oh, that's okay.

[David Dellen]

I had. Oh, my God. I had. So I've got a good story to chime in.

[Tyler]

You got like, one guy.

[David Dellen]

No, no. God, are you kidding me? No one I had crushes on had crushes on me back in high school. But there was one, and I. Because of Facebook and social media, I feel like if I say the name, somehow I'm also assuming that anyone will listen to this.

[Tyler]

His name's John Smith. Tell me about John.

[David Dellen]

No, well, but I remember I was. Remember I was asked to sing the national anthem. The national anthem at a high school basketball game. I'm pretty sure it was my senior year.

[Tyler]

Did you forget the words?

[David Dellen]

No, no, no. Well, I got. Let me. Let me just talk through it. Well, I'll piece it together as I go. So didn't Christina Aguilera also mess up the words, too?

[Tyler]

They all do.

[David Dellen]

And she, like, like, scat. Catted it. She was like.

[Tyler]

I think it might have been Fergie who did that.

[David Dellen]

Oh, I. No, I don't.

[Tyler]

Fergie did, too, at the NBA. All stream. Keep going. So what'd you do?

[David Dellen]

Yeah, so, no, I. So I was the lead in the high school musical Oklahoma, Surrey with a Fringe on Top. And I honestly think I let the fame and the allure of being the lead in the musical kind of gets in my head, because when I was asked to sing the national anthem, I remember my first thought was something along the, like, something really cocky, like, well, that makes sense. I mean, who else are they Going to ask. I mean, Farragut, I know I was. But this is our nation's song, I'm pretty sure. But that. That was my, like, I got very cavalier. I was like, yay. I mean, who. Who isn't gonna know the national anthem? So I remember, like, not practice. I don't remember how. The exact timeline of when I was asked to. When I did sing. Let's just say it's two weeks. I did not really practice until a couple days before. And because I'm like, well, I'm not gonna forget that. I mean, how are. Like, you've been singing that since, you know. Yeah, since first grade. So I start practicing, and then I realize this is a hard song. And I remember asking a friend at the time, Simone, and she would sing it with me because I thought, well, if we sing it together at the same time, because she was a strong singer, is I' know if she still sings, but. But, you know, if we sang together that, you know, our voices would carry, you know, and it would just sound like, better. And actually, so we. We practice it a couple times together, and we killed it. It was. It was amazing.

[Tyler]

So why did you bring her out on stage?

[David Dellen]

I did. No, no. So there's more. So it sounded so good when we sang together that then that arrogance came back in, and I was like, simone, why don't we just break up the parts that we sing? Like, I'll sing a verse. You sing a verse, I'll sing a verse. And because in my mind, I was like, well, when we sang together, we sounded amazing. When we sing individually, it'll be like that times a million. And so it's the day of the game. I don't think I had gone to a single high school basketball game in my entire high school career. I know, but I'm there and were handed the microphone, and I think I Even over complicated. I think I changed what we sang. Like, let's like 30 minutes before we walked out, like, we were in the school practicing, and I was like, okay, we'll sing together, and then I'll sing a part. Then you sing a part. Then we'll sing together, then I'll sing apart. Then you'll like, oh, just let me. And then we'll have like a ring of fire and a Bengal tiger will hop out, and it's gonna be a laser light show. Like, God, I made it so complicated. But we start singing, and we started great because we were singing together. But I remember my voice broke like it cracked at whatever part I was singing. And I wish I could think of what that moment was. And it was one of those, like, not only did my voice crack, but it didn't recover. It wasn't like a. It was like a. Like, it just kept getting. It just kept getting worse and worse. And, you know, I think at the very end, Simone kind of came back in with me, and we ended strong. But the worst part was that the guy that I was crushing on that week was sitting.

[Tyler]

That week.

[David Dellen]

Yeah. I mean, it skipped around. Listen, he was my true love for those.

[Tyler]

I was very hormonal. David.

[David Dellen]

So my dad's, like, on one knee, like, video camera, like, zoomed in, trying to record this magical moment. And the guy that I was crushing on was, like, I swear, right in front of me. It would have been a Tina Fey, mean girl high school movie, like, perfect moment. And so he sees the whole thing, and so I kind of, like, shrink inside, and I start walking back up through the stands, and you could just see the look on all the parents, because it was all the parents at the game, and it was like they felt so bad for me, they couldn't look at me. It was like that scene in, like, Game of Thrones where it's, like, shaved. Should have practiced, you arrogant whore. Shame. And I was like, I'm sorry.

[Tyler]

Nobody remembers that.

[David Dellen]

Well, probably not. But what I remember, too, it. It humbled me for sure, because I think this was, like, a week or two before the musical came out. Like, before. Like, before, like, we performed the musical, and you bet your bottom dollar I worked my fanny off.

[Tyler]

You practiced?

[David Dellen]

Oh, I mean, yeah, hopefully, like, more than that week before, but. Oh, my God, it was crippling. It was crippling.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's happened to me.

[David Dellen]

Your voice cracked.

[Tyler]

No, my voice cracked. I did a charity thing, and it was like, one of those philanthropy things in college for farmhouse, when I was.

[David Dellen]

One of those philanthropy, you know, when you're helping. Helping the kids or some whatnot.

[Tyler]

When I was playing an Elliot hall of Music in front of, like, 3,000 people, and I forgot the words to the song.

[David Dellen]

Oh, no. What'd you do? Watermelon. Watermelon?

[Tyler]

No, I actually brought the lyrics up with me, and they were sitting on the ground, and I had to stop and look down on them. I went back on and played. And the problem was even the guys up front in the front row were from, like, another fraternity, were, like, trying to screw with me while I was singing.

[David Dellen]

Oh, you got taunted?

[Tyler]

I got taunted. And then when I was done with it, I grabbed My guitar and looked down at them and I mouthed, fuck you.

[David Dellen]

Oh, I bet you did.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I was so pissed. It was all right. I mean, it's one of those things for like a solid couple years, I kept thinking, you know, what if I did this song? Or what if I did that? Well, now that I can do ballroom dancing, what if I did ballroom? That would have been interesting. But no, and that those are another one of those things. Like, okay, who remembers it, who thinks about it and stuff like that.

[David Dellen]

The takeaway though, for sure. I think the takeaway for me for sure was that your successes come and go. Just like your failures come and go. But God, there's nothing worse than bombing when you know you didn't give it your all. Like when you, when you don't do your best, like when you don't do well. But you know, you put like you've left it all out on the field, you know, you just laid it all out on the dance floor. Yeah, you can accept. I think those are.

[Tyler]

Those are.

[David Dellen]

I don't even consider those failures really. But those are like, I don't know, the hard knocks that are a little bit easier to kind of pick yourself back up from. But I was, I think I was more embarrassed and ashamed of mine because I didn't. And I remember like, God, I remember being asked in that little cocky ass, like 17 year old mind was like, yeah, that totally makes sense.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[David Dellen]

And I did not have that level of confidence or arrogance throughout any other time in high school that I can recall. But it was like getting picked as the lead in this musical went straight to my head like a drug.

[Tyler]

Yeah, no, I. I just realized what I was supposed to play. It was. I was. I was supposed to sing Jack and Diane and then they're in the middle of it. I forgot it.

[David Dellen]

Little birdie.

[Tyler]

The little. The part where he's like, let me slip over Bobby poops, lemme do what I please. And I'm like, okay. And then that part I forgot.

[David Dellen]

I don't even understand what you just said.

[Tyler]

Yeah, exactly.

[David Dellen]

Right here.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Don't remember the lyrics. I forget it. And the thing was, a week, I probably only practiced this. Keep in mind one, I've never sang and played before anyone. So I decided to do it in front of 3,000 people.

[David Dellen]

Totally.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Wrong decision. It's a great time.

[David Dellen]

3,000 people, no less.

[Tyler]

Yes. And then the other problem was, is the before then I was trying to be able to play the piano, which I can, but not very well, and sing. I was trying to sing a song that I had no business doing. So it did not work well, so.

[David Dellen]

So what do you think you learned from that? Was there anything you learned from that?

[Tyler]

After hearing you talk about it out loud, it makes sense. I don't feel like I put my best foot forward. I didn't give it my all. I really didn't try as hard as I should have. It came out the other end crappily, so it makes sense. But when you give it all, I sharded it so much. But yeah, no, there's that, you know, you're gonna make mistakes, and it's also that element of what do you care about? What's important makes sense to you about that type of stuff. So, you know, it still is a part of my mind, and it's still one of those, like, little regrets, maybe, like the buffoonery kicking in. But that's not the end of the world.

[David Dellen]

Wow, buffoonery.

[Tyler]

Maybe it's wrong use of the word.

[David Dellen]

I don't know. I don't know. I liked it. I mean, I believe it. Let the record show that we will look up the foodery later on. Okay, I'm sorry.

[Tyler]

You keep doing this let the record show thing.

[David Dellen]

Yeah, I don't know. I think this is the first conversation we've had that's recorded. So, like, when we try to correct.

[Tyler]

You, like the fact that we can record this and go back and find out whether it was right or was wrong.

[David Dellen]

I love this.

[Tyler]

Will not be used in any disputes when it comes to our.

[David Dellen]

We're record our entire lives from the. From this point on, everything we do will be recorded.

[Tyler]

I had half a mind wondering whether or not you've been recording our conversations since we started.

[David Dellen]

Oh, no. I mean, I get where you're kind of going with that joke, but no. The evidence would have been thrusted in your face so many times at this point if I had evidence to prove you wrong. Like, no, David, you said this. Listen to this recording.

[Tyler]

The court reporter read back, no, that's not the case.

[David Dellen]

Oh, my gosh. Well, moving on. So clearly I'm going to have to work on transitions.

[Tyler]

So moving vis a vis.

[David Dellen]

Beep, bop, boop bop, boop, boop, boop. Transition. Oh, this is where we can put in transition music.

[Tyler]

But when Squarespace starts sponsoring you, then all that good stuff like that.

[David Dellen]

You are so far ahead of where I actually am. We have negative zero followers. Wait, these are something that's negative zero. We have negative. We have no followers. If you had people, our dogs are asleep. We do have negative followers.

[Tyler]

Well, if it was zero followers, that's one thing. But if it's not negative, that means probably. I mean, you'd have to have, like, people out there telling people not to follow. So they were about to follow, but then they go the other direction.

[David Dellen]

I did not just tell you an embarrassing story. Don't make it worse.

[Tyler]

Like, no, I'm just saying. But I don't think that's gonna happen.

[David Dellen]

You're not gonna make it worse. Rotten Tomatoes is gonna hear about this and be like, oh, that bitch.

[Tyler]

I don't think Rotten Tomatoes does a podcast, sweetheart. So you're good to go.

[David Dellen]

There's going to be a ranking system at some. It'll be like rotten zucchinis or something.

[Tyler]

Totally relatable. Rotten.

[David Dellen]

Rotten eggplants.

[Tyler]

Rotten eggs, man. Two dozen rotten E. Anyway.

[David Dellen]

Well, I do want to actually, like, transition, though, and I need to work on figuring out how to do that. But as I'm learning, and this is on the job learning, one of the things that really impresses me about you, not only as a husband and a man and a lover and all these incredible things that I just.

[Tyler]

Going into podcast after dark. I love to.

[David Dellen]

But. No, but one of the things that really, truly does. It's always impressed me about you is your work ethic and just your dedication to meeting challenges and how you don't ever shy away from a challenge. And, you know, when you go in, you go in, like, you kind of dive in head first, which that's not actually a good diving technique. If anyone's listening. Like, kids, please don't dive in head first. Like, extend your arms, protect your head. You only have one. But the more you know, because knowledge is power.

[Tyler]

But go on with the accolades. Yeah.

[David Dellen]

So you were saying about me. Yes. Well, one thing I'm curious about, though, is because our listeners. I need to be careful. I'm jumping around like, viewers, followers, listeners, listeners. This is a podcast. Just something. I'm curious what you like, what you struggle with today when it comes to kind of meeting the challenges of the day. Like, you. You're successful, you own two businesses, you're involved in multiple organizations. You're a big brother in the Big Brother, Big Sister program. You don't just donate money, you donate time. Not even donating time. But you. You find ways to be of service. You're obviously a very active participant and just, I mean, you're really engaged with your friends and your family. You're playing on my podcast on a Saturday night.

[Tyler]

So can you speak of, like, Eulogy or something like that from my funeral. This is.

[David Dellen]

This is. This is getting too.

[Tyler]

Listen, it's pretty good.

[David Dellen]

Thank. Well, I mean, I love you.

[Tyler]

I love you, too. Yeah.

[David Dellen]

God, way to make this about you.

[Tyler]

Okay. Thank you.

[David Dellen]

I was already talking about you. Somehow it's more about you. I know, but. But I am curious, though. Like, what. What do you struggle with?

[Tyler]

The thing that probably popped into my head as soon as you were saying that stuff is one feeling like I'm a success at all. When you said that you're, you know, successful and stuff like that, I. Yeah, it's. It's feeling like a success. There's so many other people out there saying things aren't good enough or not things aren't going fast enough or this doesn't look a certain way, and it's. I mean, you kind of hit the nail on the head. We were at dinner last night. You're talking about, you know, enough people that will send in reviews or send in feedback and stuff like that. And when it's your business, you take it personally. You do. And as much as you can try and make sure it doesn't hurt you, it does take a little nick out of you. You have to kind of find a way to let it heal and move on and possibly learn from some stuff. But the hardest part is, honestly, probably not letting people get to you or knowing you're not gonna be able to keep everybody happy. And if you're not happy, then no one. Anyone else is gonna be happy. So, yeah, it's.

[David Dellen]

So what? So then. So. Okay, to try to summarize what you just said. So you. You struggle with. You struggle with the idea that maybe customers or people don't feel like you're doing enough for them. And.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I. It's. It's a being that we. We represent a national company that's on the New York Stock Exchange. They're always wanting more, and they're always, you know, we've got to do more for our stockholders. We gotta sell our bikes and all this other stuff. And there's. Sometimes when you look like, you know, this month was a really good. It was a good month by numbers, but by units, it's not enough for Harley. So I'm gonna hear about it say, well, why didn't you hit these numbers? And blah, blah, blah. And it's.

[David Dellen]

It's.

[Tyler]

You really ever. Can you just sit back and say, that was good, and let's enjoy it? It's. There's a term in sales. It's zero. You know, hero to zero as soon as you go straight into that next month. And it's tough to enjoy because of that. It can be really, really tough to really try and celebrate. Because once you celebrate, it's, well, we still got to keep going. The race never ends. And that's probably the biggest part.

[David Dellen]

I think some of what I'm hearing you say too is that, you know, you mentioned, like, feeling. Feeling like a success. You struggle with feeling like you're a success. And it sounds like if you're dealing with customer complaints and then you have, you know, stockholders and franchisees or the people who are like, in the higher ups of, you know, the franchise, I think maybe defining your what's what your measure of success is, it sounds like you're struggling with finding where your definition of success is with other people's definitions of success. Because Harley Corporate expects this much from you to be considered a success. Your customers, each very individual, want to feel X, Y and Z, see X, Y and Z experience X, Y and Z, to feel like their experience was successful with you. And then you have your employees and so on and so forth. So maybe then, like, trying to figure out, like, what. I think what probably a lot of people could connect with is how do I feel like I'm doing enough when they're. When everyone else has their own idea of what enough is for me.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I agree with that. And, you know, I think as many other books and podcasts I've been listening to, the one that I need to get back on is that one that's the subtle art of not giving a fuck. And it's. It even, like I said, it's only been two chapters in, but it really just even in there. He describes just trying to figure out what's important. It's not to just say no to everything, but it's also trying to figure out what's your priority. But for the sake of. Is it a priority to be partly happy? Is it a priority to keep your customers happy? Is their happiness more important than yours? Is your happiness because of their happiness? All of those are big questions. And for me, that is a very good question, is what does success look like? Because that's in the world of business and sales and stuff, like, you're always looking about trying to beat your times before the year prior, you know, doing this and doing that. My goal. I always tell people when we're talking with customers or any of my managers, it's, you know, increase our business. You know, we're trying to do better each time we're doing a little bit better. Even if it's not necessarily numbers, it can be processes, but happy customers, and you just move on. If it's. If it's good business, it's good processes. And you also got to make sure you don't neglect your employees because your employees are upset and they're not happy. Your customers are. But for me, I would say success is a tough thing for me to define for myself.

[David Dellen]

So what do you. So it's one of those. It's kind of like almost like when. When we're carrying a lot of stress and we have a lot of stress, maybe we have a lot of anxiety, and we don't maybe recognize or feel how stressed we are until that. Until it kind of dissipates, until it goes down. What I would imagine is maybe hard for you to define what success exactly is for you at this moment. You also probably know what it feels like when you hit it. When you hit a success, you're like, oh, yeah, that was everything aligned, everything worked exactly the way that it should. So can you give me an example of. Do you have, like, a Rolodex of successes? You're like, oh, that moment was sweet. I loved everything about it.

[Tyler]

Sure. I mean, I think I don't. And I've tried to believe the idea of luck, but I think a lot of things just somehow naturally fall in place, and sometimes they're not supposed to naturally fall in place. And sometimes you're supposed to fail, and sometimes you're supposed to have things that just don't work. But, I mean, I could just even take recent things of new hires and new people were getting in, and I'm just like, you know, had we done this, we could have gone in so much different direction. I mean, there's so many different roads you can turn. And the funny thing is, sometimes things will positively happen. And I'm like, how the heck did that just happen? I mean. And you don't. You don't. You don't feel like you're deserving of that, or like, you, man, that was lucky, or that should have. That there was no way that was supposed to happen kind of thing. And then it does, and you're like, man, that was really, really cool. But then that thing that crosses your mind is, was that because of something I did, or is it because of just naturally the world and divine intervention and everything happened for that exact moment? It's really tough to try and all encompass it, but I would definitely say the successes that we've had as A business owner, you typically end up looking at the numbers more than anything. But it is also nice to try and take little small victories. Maybe the numbers aren't what you would want them to be, but you take a victory of, like I said, a new hire or someone learning a process or even sometimes the things that happen outside the business for people. We've had some people that have gone through cancer. We've had people that have had kids that have been, you know, all this other stuff like that which can be important. And if you continually just sit there and ride them like they're, you know, all that matters is the numbers that they produce, then they're going to feel like they're a dollar and that's going to be tough part too. So I do find, I would say maybe it's not success, but happiness when I do see other employees enjoying themselves in their job. I mean, they can pick, you know, if they're with me 40 hours a week and they're asleep, hopefully seven to eight hours a day, you know, they only get so many coherent hours of the day and they might or might not be with their kids, they might not be with their loved ones. They have to spend majority of their coherent time with me or with my business. So it's tough to. It's a tough. It's a big job to make sure that they're as well taken care of as possible. Man, she's sorry.

[David Dellen]

That's a sweetheart. That was so beautiful. Say, Nate, wake up. Wake up, Sandy.

[Tyler]

You know that's gonna last for like 20 seconds, right? Yeah, that's okay. She looks adorable.

[David Dellen]

It sounds like maybe based on like the positive examples you have or the other things that matter to you is that the people that around you feeling happy and having their needs met and enjoying working with you. And you can almost even distill that down even further to just being light, liking where you are, liking what you're doing, having people like the work that you do, which really does circle around. I mean, that's a nice full circle moment as far as just talking about struggling with being a youth and moving through life feeling insecure, not feeling like you're enough.

[Tyler]

I mean, that's why to segue to the youth. That's why I like the Big Brother program so much that even being able to show them what they're able to, what they can learn from a positive influence and what the being adults and all that other stuff. But you can also. The cool thing is too, in moments that you'll be sitting there and all of a sudden you become a kid again because you're hanging out with the little kids. And for them to not lose their youth, not to also lose their, you know, people to look up to and stuff like that. In the case of Tyler, he's just got my little brother. I'm in the big brother program with. He's only got his mom and his sister. His sister really isn't present very much and his mom works a lot. He doesn't have any male influences because most of his male influences are unfortunately, the rap artists that he listens to. Most of it are actually pretty good. We enjoy a lot of the same rap artists.

[David Dellen]

Yeah, I know you guys sing together all the time.

[Tyler]

We do. We're pretty good at it. I normally let Tim do a lot of the singing, but the funniest thing was yesterday.

[David Dellen]

I think it's hilarious. It's either spongebob or hip hop.

[Tyler]

No, he's gotten off spongebob lately.

[David Dellen]

He is getting older.

[Tyler]

He's still on Bruno Mars and a couple other people. But the funniest thing yesterday was when we both belted out at the same time. Hello by Adele. He gets into it, but the thing.

[David Dellen]

Does he do the hands on the stage?

[Tyler]

He does, but the funniest thing was is because he was getting upset because certain parts are like getting really high up. Like a year ago he could do them, but he's going through puberty. His voice cracking.

[David Dellen]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, let's tell me a good voice changing story. Do you have like a. I'm sorry, mom.

[Tyler]

My older brother made for maybe funny, made fun of me for it all the time when I was younger and stuff like that. And it was. It was such a serious.

[David Dellen]

I'm trying to pick it back.

[Tyler]

No, but there was. There wasn't anything funny about it because he made fun of me.

[David Dellen]

There wasn't anything funny about it at all. Danielle, that was such an awkward time.

[Tyler]

Your voice is changing. I gained probably like 20 to 30 pounds when I was in between third.

[David Dellen]

Grade and fifth muscle of pure muscle.

[Tyler]

No, I wish I was double cracking.

[David Dellen]

Sugarcream pie.

[Tyler]

Sugar cream pie. I talked about this with someone yesterday. It was last night at dinner. The fact that I had bologna and cheese sandwiches, Doritos and chips of your Oreos. Mom, if you're listening, there's nothing nutritious about that. It was carbohydrates.

[David Dellen]

You're blaming every. You're like, everyone did everything.

[Tyler]

Life is never my fault.

[David Dellen]

Typical middle child.

[Tyler]

I am not anyway in control of what's Going on.

[David Dellen]

I'm a victim of circumstance.

[Tyler]

That's true.

[David Dellen]

They force fed me Doritos. They force fed me cool the ranch. So delicious.

[Tyler]

Double stuffed Oreos. Dipping them in milk. Back when I drank milk. Oh, I know.

[David Dellen]

Now we're a nut milk family.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[David Dellen]

So funny.

[Tyler]

That even sounds dirty. I know.

[David Dellen]

Bringing it back to the after hours special.

[Tyler]

Oh, Lord. Oh, man.

[David Dellen]

So another thing I'm curious about because you're, you know, you're a busy man. You're a man of the world. You're running businesses, you're, you know, just signing checks and high fiving babies or whatever you do. I don't know.

[Tyler]

I wish you followers, you could. And people hearing this could see her.

[David Dellen]

So I do a lot of hands. I do a lot of hand. One day we'll turn this into a YouTube. I said everything needs to be recorded. Our whole lives need to be recorded. Recorded from this point forward. But I'm curious about how, like, how does your relationship with technology influence or affect what you do with work?

[Tyler]

Like, honestly, I wish we didn't have technology. I wish I was lying. What I do. I wish I really think it makes.

[David Dellen]

He's kidding. Podcast listeners because the fact that you have technology and enables you to listen.

[Tyler]

To this podcast, 90% of technology. Other than podcasts, other than podcasts. I love podcasts. I love books on tape, audiobooks from itunes, stuff like that.

[David Dellen]

But let the record show that he.

[Tyler]

No, I mean, a lot of the things that there's such a. And we talk about this heavily. It's the amount of, you know, interaction with people lessens your. I mean, it's even becoming a generational gap for millennials and younger because the fact that they're on their phones, everything has to be communicated via text message, Snapchat, Instagram.

[David Dellen]

I want to know about your relationship with technology. Don't give me a lesson.

[Tyler]

It's love or hate. Love and hate.

[David Dellen]

Oh, damn.

[Tyler]

Love or hate. I either love it or I hate it. I mean, I absolutely love streaming TV because it's all the great shows and videos and other stuff like that. But then I hate the fact that as a business owner, there are so many things, I mean, for anybody, especially even if you just work for the business, how involved you have to be. Your phone, if your clients are emailing you or they text you or leaving your reviews or commenting on Facebook or commenting on Instagram, or if they're sharing you or sending you a snap, you have to have that. And people expect turnouts. They literally, on Facebook will show on the messaging board to the other side of the customer when you send a message on Facebook how responsive that person is. So I get rated on how quick I am responsive. And right now that would up some anxiety. Luckily, it says 100% in less than one minute response. Yeah. Good God.

[David Dellen]

Well, that's affecting. That's affecting our marriage customers.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yes, exactly.

[David Dellen]

Damn it. Get off your phone. I have to have 100% response right now. It's.

[Tyler]

It's tough, but you push through it. And. And that. That's the part that I hate. I do love being able to connect with people. I do love being able to. You know, I sent a message to the person who hired me when I lived in Australia my year after Purdue and sent her a message and said, hey, hope you're doing well. And she remembered me. So it's kind of cool to be able to connect in that route. Other than that, I wish there wasn't as much technology, I think. I think it definitely puts a void between people like this microphone, between us emails. Like, we've talked about this before too. The number of people that will send emails, including myself. And I've had to train myself ever since your tutelage of guys. I'm really wise, really freaking smart people.

[David Dellen]

You should really listen to my podcast. I'm super freaking smart.

[Tyler]

I'm sure you're gonna be like, on episode like 155 when you come back to this, you're like, I wonder what it was first. Like, it was like, oh, this is so cool. Singer in her first elements. But when you go back to listening to her book, when she talks about how much she loves her husband, now you know why.

[David Dellen]

No. So so far, we probably have done a lot of. You've heard our dog snore. You probably hear us knocking on the table because I haven't figured out how to dampen the sound. And we're slurping wine. I mean, we're killing it. We're just killing it.

[Tyler]

We need to be like Tim Ferriss and that other dude that. We're just kidding.

[David Dellen]

Yeah. And that first episode was like two and a half hours long.

[Tyler]

Oh, I don't know if I could.

[David Dellen]

Talk for two and a half hours. I mean, we're already doing well. We're already at 49 minutes and 25, 26, 27. Okay, so your relationship with technology is a love hate relationship. I can respect that. I can respect that.

[Tyler]

That's good.

[David Dellen]

Okay, next question. Next question. If you could be sh. Let me ask it. Let me ask it. If you could be any animal. What would it be and why?

[Tyler]

Listeners, this is a typical relationship question.

[David Dellen]

No, no. This is the first time I've ever said it, David.

[Tyler]

Bullshit.

[David Dellen]

Oh, bull shark.

[Tyler]

Good one. Okay. That's why I love her. If I could be an animal. I know you want to go underwater, if that's your thing, but.

[David Dellen]

Okay, I guess I need to pick something that would work underwater for a animal.

[Tyler]

Honestly, that's not even the direction I was going. I want to fly. I want to fly.

[David Dellen]

I can fly.

[Tyler]

Not R. Kelly.

[David Dellen]

Fly.

[Tyler]

Like, I'm gonna piss on you, R. Kelly.

[David Dellen]

Yeah, that's horse.

[Tyler]

New rule.

[David Dellen]

You can't talk about that.

[Tyler]

I'm going to piss on you. Listeners, that is a allude to the Chappelle show making fun of R. Kelly.

[David Dellen]

Oh, God, I'm trapped in the thought. My favorite Chappelle joke, I think so far is. You know what's crazy? I've always been this talented.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you need to watch that. If you guys are listening, want to go to Netflix?

[David Dellen]

We're not plugging other shows. Listen, I don't have any.

[Tyler]

If Chappelle shows up on the show, that's great.

[David Dellen]

Chappelle's gonna listen to don't cut your own bangs. I highly doubt that, but I hope so. Fingers crossed, everyone.

[Tyler]

Mr. Chappelle, if you're listening, Mr. Chappelle. Yeah. Good sir, Kind.

[David Dellen]

Kind sir, can you just answer your question? How do you want to fly? Are you a dragonfly? What are you?

[Tyler]

I was always fascinated just because the idea as a child with a peregrine falcon. Because they're like the fastest freaking bird ever. I'm pretty sure. Most. The fastest. Most fastest. That wine's kicking in, people.

[David Dellen]

Oh, God.

[Tyler]

But yeah, no, literally, they can. God, they have, like, where they get the speed was. I thought something absolutely stupid.

[David Dellen]

Don't mess up, right? We're gonna have National Geographic and like all kinds of people that could corroborate your life. Let the record show Jurgen Sokin.

[Tyler]

Lets see. Holy schmack.

[David Dellen]

We're literally listening to you Google on your phone right now.

[Tyler]

Seriously, as an adult, guess how fast.

[David Dellen]

I can go as an adult? Yeah, I don't. How old is an adult falcon?

[Tyler]

I don't know. Pretty freaking old. How fast do you think I can go?

[David Dellen]

65 miles an hour faster. 85 miles an hour faster. Shut up. Nuh.

[Tyler]

Keep going.

[David Dellen]

Just say it.

[Tyler]

240 miles an hour.

[David Dellen]

Nuh.

[Tyler]

Google me that, Batman.

[David Dellen]

Nuh. Okay, so you want to be the fastest falcon in the world. Freaking A. I don't know why. That just doesn't seem like your animal to me, but I'll go with it. I would have been like koala bear.

[Tyler]

When I was a kid and I heard about the idea of a peregrine pal gun. I was like, that is bad.

[David Dellen]

But you also love Australia and you're cuddling like a koala.

[Tyler]

I feel like you're more like you hold the frickin phone. If you could be wanted, what would it be? That was my question on what I wanted to do be, not what you picture me.

[David Dellen]

Listen, don't cut your own bangs. We answer questions for other people all the time. I don't have a format yet, but I think that'll be the.

[Tyler]

Do you pretty sure this isn't a show about others. It's David. We're gonna have a weekly podcast on Saturday night.

[David Dellen]

Yes. Oh, my God.

[Tyler]

And we're gonna talk about your feelings. David, get those things out. Yeah, then I'm gonna squash them like a bug. Sexy.

[David Dellen]

Oh, God. After hours.

[Tyler]

I was just gonna go to my office meeting and everything.

[David Dellen]

That's a Jim Gaffigan reference that we're butchering, by the way, if anybody's interested in knowing what we're quoting. So much of our relationship revolves around quotes. That's the clunk of a wine bottle getting set on a table. Okay, so that is your animal. You would be a falcon. I love it. I love it. The fascism. No. Fine. You're gonna flip it around on me.

[Tyler]

It's a conversation, as in an interview.

[David Dellen]

I'm interviewing you.

[Tyler]

Oh, you are?

[David Dellen]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

I feel like all flaps in it.

[David Dellen]

Okay, don't, don't. Don't want to go into Forrest Gump. I already see the face. Don't, David. Okay, I got another question.

[Tyler]

I need to watch that movie. It's a damn good movie.

[David Dellen]

Listen, this is becoming the ADD podcast, where we can't.

[Tyler]

If you listen to podcasts, that's all they do.

[David Dellen]

That's true. That's true. And for our listeners who are add, we support you.

[Tyler]

Fight the good fight, people.

[David Dellen]

Validated. Hashtag blessed. Hashtag humble humble. Hashtag hashtag. Okay, if you could have a billboard, because we watched that movie. The Three Billboards Outside of something. If you could have. It was a really good movie. I can't remember.

[Tyler]

So good. You can remember the title.

[David Dellen]

Three Billboards Outside of Academy Award winning film. If you stop knocking the door.

[Tyler]

I must get this out.

[David Dellen]

If you could have a billboard, what would it say? And I'm not gonna lie, I straight up Ripped this question from Tim Ferriss podcast when he interviewed Jack Kornfield, but I thought it was a really good question. So what would your billboard say? Got milk?

[Tyler]

No. I mean, I. I don't know. Something to the effect of, you know, turn the person to the left and say, hey, I love you. I don't know. Something positive.

[David Dellen]

Unless you're in a car. Then you might.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it might get weird, but, you know, or on a bus. But I just. I just feel like there's just so much. Every five minutes there's some report about Trump doing something stupid, and then the next second they're trying to push the stuff out there to divert for something that's an even bigger news story. That. Excuse me. Doesn't get covered so much shit. I mean, the days of when we were kids, those are the kinds of things that I just long for. And the reason why I think I love the Simpsons even to this day. I know, because it was the show and the time that it was when we were kids.

[David Dellen]

It was a simpler time.

[Tyler]

It was. But I'm being serious. It was a simpler time. I don't. Everybody thinks that.

[David Dellen]

So your billboard would say, turn to the person to your left and say, hi.

[Tyler]

Hey, I love you.

[David Dellen]

Oh, my God, you know what? Oh, okay. So you're the theme song to your billboard. Oh, you're upset that I interrupted your story.

[Tyler]

No.

[David Dellen]

Viewers. He looks really upset.

[Tyler]

Viewers. They're not viewing, they're listening.

[David Dellen]

I did it again. Listeners. Podcast listeners. I'm new to this format.

[Tyler]

Yes, listeners. I was talking. But in this case, Billboard would be to encourage people to be nice to each other. Let's just say that.

[David Dellen]

That's cute. Yeah, I was just gonna do that. Tracy. Is that the Tracy Chapman song? I said, hey. Oh, wait, is that Melissa Eff? What's going on? Who's that?

[Tyler]

That's neither one of them. I don't remember the girl who it is, but it's like. It's probably. Honestly, it's one of those songs you hear at a bar that you can't help it singing, but a song that as soon as it comes on the radio, you're like, fuck that.

[David Dellen]

Well, that's like every Journey song. You're out at a bar and you've got a beer in your hand, you're gonna sing along to Journey when you're in your car. Okay, what's the last time we listen to Journey?

[Tyler]

Wheel in the sky.

[David Dellen]

No, no, don't rattle off titles of songs. I love the Journey.

[Tyler]

It's philosophical and.

[David Dellen]

Listen if we were in a live show and someone played Journey, I'd be like, oh, hell yeah. But I'm not jamming a Journey in my car unless I've got a car full of people. And we're all gonna sing along.

[Tyler]

Do something wrong with America. Let's do some Journey is America's apple pie, especially with the Filipino lead singer. Now.

[David Dellen]

Listen, listen. We accept all singers. We accept all singers here on this podcast. All right, great. Well, I feel like I learned a lot about you and.

[Tyler]

And did you?

[David Dellen]

I feel like. I feel like the listeners are going to. I'm only realizing now probably how much I'm gonna have to listen to my laugh when I listen back to this.

[Tyler]

Well, let's analyze. So. So as far as the podcast goes, typically, how they go, they're, you know, thanks for joining us in this today's podcast where we're going to talk about this, this, and this. And first off, let me introduce my guest. You know him as so and so.

[David Dellen]

You know him as the Harley dealer you love to hate.

[Tyler]

That's pret. But yeah, this is David. Hey, how's it going?

[David Dellen]

How are we doing, David?

[Tyler]

No, not too bad. Blah, blah, blah. Also with the guest is blah, blah, blah. It's like. And today's sponsor is so and so.

[David Dellen]

Today's sponsor is Black Station Cabernet Sauvignon.

[Tyler]

You know, when I'm really feeling down in the dumps, I go for Black Station Cabernet. But they may have a tagline.

[David Dellen]

We're not down in the dumps. And I'm doing a dump. Do you do a dump or how you have a dump? Make it to what kind of. Wait, what? How do you use that in a sentence?

[Tyler]

You take a dog.

[David Dellen]

Oh, damn. They take a duck.

[Tyler]

Straight out of the hills of Zamora, California come the black. The hills of Zamora. The hills of Zamora. Zamora, California.

[David Dellen]

God, wouldn't that be a terrible place?

[Tyler]

It sounds.

[David Dellen]

Unless I have listeners there. This sounds like something that you would.

[Tyler]

Find in the land of nod or something.

[David Dellen]

I was just about to say that.

[Tyler]

Totally. So Zamora, California, been vented.

[David Dellen]

I didn't know you can't read a wine bottle, folks.

[Tyler]

It says Vincent. I've never heard the word vented before.

[David Dellen]

Well, I don't know what it means.

[Tyler]

Neither do I. Vented and bottled 2016, black station cabinet. But you can do your different, you know, your sponsors and then you can go back and forth. But what they do, it's cool thing about like the. How do they. How does this. How do this. How did this get made? You'll be mid conversation. They can stop and then go back and forth. I listen to. It's a really good format.

[David Dellen]

I feel like this has now become you teaching me about podcasts on a podcast.

[Tyler]

This is like the Inception within a podcast. If I die in this podcast, will I die in the other podcast?

[David Dellen]

That's why you have to fall from a great height.

[Tyler]

Did the podcast in here for every 10 seconds. How long is it in the other one?

[David Dellen]

And then South Park's episode. No, that's not. No, that's not Inception. That's the other Christopher Nolan movie where he's in space.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they do it in both.

[David Dellen]

They do?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[David Dellen]

Christopher Nolan loves Spiderman.

[Tyler]

Well, just remember by the end of the Inception movie, how the guy he was in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, all of a sudden he's like, old and crepidy by the end of it. And Leo looks normal.

[David Dellen]

Right.

[Tyler]

Because he's been in the dream that long.

[David Dellen]

Right. Time is relative, people. So this is the moral of the story. Time is relative.

[Tyler]

It's true. But seriously, was he in a dream at the end of the movie?

[David Dellen]

Was he. What?

[Tyler]

Was he in a dream at the end of that movie?

[David Dellen]

He just slurred his words.

[Tyler]

No, I did.

[David Dellen]

No, I didn't.

[Tyler]

He spun the top, and then you don't get to see if it stops. Was he in a dream or not? Because that was his. It was whether or not he was.

[David Dellen]

Who's the guy who played Alfred? Yeah. Michael Caine. So Michael Caine admitted on a Sir Michael Caine. Oh, God, yes. Let's not forget the important.

[Tyler]

He was knighted. That's kind of a big deal.

[David Dellen]

Stop interrupting.

[Tyler]

I think you get invited via Queen Elizabeth. She has her own Playboy mansion.

[David Dellen]

If anyone is still listening at this point. You are heroic. You are wonderful. You're majestic.

[Tyler]

And they're waiting for your answer.

[David Dellen]

You're a majestic unicorn flower. What was the answer to what?

[Tyler]

We were talking about Michael Caine and we were talking about Inception. Yeah, you said whether or not Michael Caine was talking about the fact that he.

[David Dellen]

No, he gave away the end of the plot. So they weren't any dream. They weren't in a dream.

[Tyler]

I don't like that. I like the idea of telling whether it was or it wasn't.

[David Dellen]

I'm. Well, I'm sorry. Michael Caine. Sir Michael Caine ruined it. You could Google it, but Google it later.

[Tyler]

He was also Austin Power's dad. I love that Gold member, right?

[David Dellen]

This isn't the show. Isn't called shows, David Likes this is.

[Tyler]

It might as well be. Why can't it be really?

[David Dellen]

Oh, my God. I. You just literally checked your phone in.

[Tyler]

The middle of it. You told me to put it on. Do not disturb. It didn't ring, did it?

[David Dellen]

David, can you not. He just lamely flipped his phone over.

[Tyler]

For viewers.

[David Dellen]

For any.

[Tyler]

I did it on purpose. Did you notice how I didn't say viewers. I said for viewers.

[David Dellen]

So you mean it comically loud?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I did.

[David Dellen]

Okay, good. Well, thank you for listening. This has been a delight. What a delight.

[Tyler]

A delight.

[David Dellen]

Now we're doing an impression of. An impression of Will Ferrell's impression.

[Tyler]

James Lipton.

[David Dellen]

Of James Lipton.

[Tyler]

Yes. Inside the extra studio.

[David Dellen]

Yeah. So the maiden voyage of don't cut your own bangs. Stay tuned for so many other shenanigans and life lessons and good times and. Yeah, this was a blast. Thank you, husband.

[Tyler]

No problem, wifey.

[David Dellen]

You're great. You were a great guest. You might have to do this again with me sometime.

[Tyler]

That's what she said. I honestly wouldn't have any problem with being a sidekick while you interview other people. It would be fun.

[David Dellen]

Aw.

[Tyler]

That's just. I love talking and you know that. And at this point, it's fun, so it is fun.

[David Dellen]

At this point. I wasn't sure until now, but at this point.

[Tyler]

But I really do think wine needs to be involved.

[David Dellen]

I think so, too.

[Tyler]

The problem. But the only thing I'll weigh in on this, and this will be my last comment, I promise. It's never his last comment, but okay. We're. We're an hour and five minutes in this podcast. I didn't really start feeling this.

[David Dellen]

You didn't start fart?

[Tyler]

I didn't start farting and feeling. I didn't start this way until, like, 20 minutes ago. I was not literally, legitimately not sharding until 20 minutes ago.

[David Dellen]

Well, hopefully you're doing more talking than drinking if you're on the podcast. But I think there's a fine line between being delightfully bubbly, buzzed.

[Tyler]

Don't cut your bangs while you're drunk. No, no, no, no.

[David Dellen]

But I like where your head's at. Keep thinking. Great ideas.

[Tyler]

And on that note.

[David Dellen]

And on that note, no, I think you're a fabulous, fabulous guest and would be a wonderful co host that I would love to have on my podcast every episode.

[Tyler]

But you have to make sure you tell everyone David's not with us today because he's off, you know, in the safari. You can't be drawing with us. He's off in the Safari.

[David Dellen]

I don't know what that was, but I should also state, since the title of the podcast is don't cut your own bangs, and a lot of it had to do based on, like, hair, like, really embarrassing hair stories of mine, that my husband has a shaved head.

[Tyler]

It'll make it ironic as hell.

[David Dellen]

Is it ironic? That's, like, ironic. Like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.

[Tyler]

Meeting the man in my dreams and then meeting his beautiful wife.

[David Dellen]

Oh, my God, we need to stop. Hey, this is the never ending podcast now, so.

[Tyler]

That should be your outro Music. Can you call Alanis?

[David Dellen]

Alanis? Is it Alanis or Alanis?

[Tyler]

I don't know. She's Canadian. You can go either way. Yeah, sorry for viewers. There was a Canadian man that we met, and he said, not manure.

[David Dellen]

No, not manure.

[Tyler]

Manure. Sorry. Now I'm saying I'm like a knuck.

[David Dellen]

Oh, man. All right, guys, this is never gonna end because he's tipsy, but it's true. This has been great, and if you are still listening, this is outstanding, and thank you for your attention and time. I hope we entertained you while you either worked out on the elliptical or were riding in your car. And there probably needs to be some preface that, yeah, we use adult language on this, so I probably need to set up a little warning at the beginning. Like, hey, FYI, don't have this, you know, in your car if you've got kids in it.

[Tyler]

So too fucking late now.

[David Dellen]

And that's my husband. Ah, thanks so much for listening.

[Tyler]

Bye.