Community Movie & Chevy Chase Drama with Joel McHale

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Dropping Names ...and other things
Hosts: Brent Spiner & Jonathan Frakes
Episode: Community Movie & Chevy Chase Drama with Joel McHale
Date: May 7, 2026
Guest: Joel McHale

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Episode Overview

In this lively, laughter-filled episode, Star Trek legends Brent Spiner and Jonathan Frakes reconnect with actor, comedian, and host Joel McHale. They reminisce about Hollywood experiences, discuss the upcoming Community movie, and dive into behind-the-scenes drama with Chevy Chase. The conversation also careens through topics like working with comedy icons, memorable Hollywood encounters, and the quirks of life on set—from Animal Control to Star Trek: TNG to Spy Kids. With their trademark banter, Brent and Jonathan bring out Joel’s candid reflections on fame, awkward moments, and why agreeing to everything can shape a career.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Appeal & Format of Their Podcast

• Brent and Jonathan reflect on their chemistry:
  • The format, modeled after their off-mic banter, successfully translates to a talk show environment, letting conversations naturally expand.
  • "You find that you're learning as we go." (Brent, 00:05)
  • "We're doing an hour...talk shows do 15 minutes." (Brent & Jonathan, 00:50-01:15)

2. Iconic Jingles and Hollywood Anecdotes

• Jonathan tests Brent with old jingles, leading to playful banter.
  • Miller Light, Jack in the Box, and Albertson's brought back with off-key renditions.
  • "It's Joe Albertson's supermarket, but the meat department is mine." (Jonathan, 02:29)

3. Joel McHale Joins: Comedy, Hosting, and the Saturn Awards

• Joel shares his approach to opening monologues:
  • Cites collaboration with comedy writer friends—"They'll have an idea and then I'll go, 'Here's a better idea,' and they're like, 'Yeah, way better.'" (Joel, 03:29)
  • Tom Cruise attending the awards is highlighted:
    • "Tom fucking Cruise. I want you to think about that. He will never be on this podcast." (Joel, 04:09-04:13)

4. Hollywood Legend Name-Dropping (Shatner, Stewart, Lavar Burton)

• Discussing William Shatner & Patrick Stewart milestones, and Lavar Burton’s multi-generational fame:
  • "Nobody has done what [Lavar] has done...famous in three generations." (Joel, 05:13)
  • Segue to Shatner and Spader's famous Boston Legal cannibalism scene. (06:01-06:25)

5. Joel McHale’s Animal Control and TV Comfort Food

• Jonathan describes watching lighter shows with Jeannie Francis:
  • "Are you ready for a little Animal Control? Yes...It's funny, it's kind, it's not violent..." (Jonathan, 07:05-07:16)
• Joel explains the show’s connection to Seattle/Vancouver and the practicality of filming there. (07:25)

6. Surprising Studio Overlaps: Community & Next Generation

• Joel reveals Community and Star Trek: TNG shared the same studio stages, leading to a geek-out moment. (08:02)

7. The Community Movie and Dan Harmon Stories

• Brent asks about Dan Harmon's involvement; Joel confirms Harmon co-writing.
• Brent reminisces about doing a staged reading with Dan Harmon’s (inebriated but brilliant) performance.
  • "He came on stage with a Jeroboam of vodka...it was empty by the end of the reading." (Brent, 10:28-10:50)
• Discussion pivots to Brent’s custom martini (“The Dickens: olive and twist”). (11:19-11:28)

8. Digging Into the Chevy Chase Documentary

• Brent and Jonathan reflect on their emotional reactions; Joel provides the frank insider perspective:
  • "He never liked being on the hours of that show...there are times he was so funny...and then...the stories precede themselves." (Joel, 14:04-14:29)
  • "There's this giant, complicated human being there." (Brent, 14:29)

9. Spy Kids, Bill Hader, and Hollywood Cameos

• Joel discusses being cast in Spy Kids, acting with Jessica Alba, and working with actors like Carla Gugino.
  • Ricky Gervais voiced the dog, and working with big names is always surreal.
• Recaps his small start in Spider-Man thanks to improvising at audition. (17:08-17:40)

10. Michael Chabon’s Showrunning on Star Trek

• Michael Chabon’s struggles with the showrunner role and the overwhelming nature of the job:
  • "Take him to the meetings that, you know, show him what the showrunner has to do...they want your approval..." (Jonathan, 18:03-18:27)

11. Community and Star Trek: Shows with Imagination

• Joel compares the playful, imaginative scope of Community and Star Trek: TNG:
  • "Once Dan Harmon's imagination took off...you could do anything you want."
  • Favorite TNG moment: Worf smashing the mandolin—“I am not a merry man.” (19:52-19:57)
• Joel’s high school schedule was arranged around TNG reruns on Seattle TV. (20:04-20:24)

12. Joel’s Netflix Docuseries and The ‘Agree to Anything’ Philosophy

• Joel briefly recaps hosting the Tiger King “Where Are They Now?” follow-up and reflects on his willingness to say yes to all work.
  • "That is my book. That's me too. Just agree to anything." (22:35)
• Wife Sarah’s patience with his jam-packed schedule is a running joke:
  • "How much are you making?...120k for the hour." (22:54-23:02)

13. Old Hollywood & Stand-Up Heros

• Discussion of Steve Martin’s unmatched stand-up career and his impact:
  • "Steve Martin became...filling arenas. Rose Bowl size." (Joel, 32:14-32:15)
• Joel geeked out when Eric Idle guest-ed on The Soup:
  • "Holy crap. Eric Idle has agreed to come on the show. Monty Python, guys." (Joel, 32:41-32:42)

14. Comic-Cons and Celebrity Wealth

• The hosts joke about the lucrative nature of fan conventions, referencing Norman Reedus’s massive take-home pay.
  • "Norman Reedus left a Comic Con and went out and bought a car. $150,000 with our cash..." (Brent, 36:06-36:15)

15. Joel’s Multiple Shows and Relentless Work Ethic

• Promotion spree:
  • House of Villains (Peacock), 1% Club (Fox/Hulu), Crime Scene Kitchen (Fox/Hulu), and of course, Animal Control. (36:44-36:56)
  • "I cannot believe people hand me money...to do what I like to do." (Joel, 37:15-37:19)

16. Drunk History, Broadway, and George Washington Gags

• Joel’s appearance as Pilgrim ancestor in Drunk History; Brent reveals he's been told he should play George Washington.
  • "He should play George Washington. And I thought, yeah, George Washington, he was a Jew, right?" (Brent, 39:47-39:52)
• Spirited debate on who is more famous: Shatner, Tom Cruise, Gordon Ramsay, or Dracula. (33:47-34:52)

17. Deep Hollywood Lore, SNL, and More

• Brent jokes about losing SNL hosting gig to Patrick Stewart and fantasizes about a “What If” sketch if Kevin Kline had never lived.
• The group reveres Dick Van Dyke, Laurel & Hardy, and the ties between generations of comedy on TV.

18. Quirky Tangents and Closing Banter

• The trio riff on classic sitcoms, dropout roles, and self-deprecating stories (like a friend with a button sewn after testicular surgery—"Welcome to the last episode of Dropping Names." Joel, 56:11).
• The episode winds down with typical off-hand humor and teases for future episodes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joel McHale, on Chevy Chase:

  • “He never liked being on the hours of that show…there were times where he was so funny...and then, you know, the stories precede themselves, his on set antics." (14:04)

• Jonathan Frakes, on Animal Control:

  • "Because it's funny, it's kind, it's not violent, it's ironic, it's smart, the actors are charming. And it's 22 minutes. It's a win.” (07:05-07:16)

• Brent Spiner, on a staged reading with Dan Harmon:

  • “He came on stage with a Jeroboam of vodka...it was empty by the end of the reading. But he was fantastic in all the parts." (10:28-10:51)

• On Hollywood Fame:

  • “I think he's [Shatner] the most famous person in the world. I don't think you could go anywhere and find someone who's never heard of William Shatner or Captain Kirk." (Brent, 33:35)

• On Comic-Cons:

  • "Norman Reedus left a Comic Con and went out and bought a car. $150,000 with our cash, you know. And he was there for half an hour." (Brent, 36:06-36:15)

• On Agreeing to Everything:

  • “That is my book. That's me too. Just agree to anything.” (Joel, 22:35)

• Classic TNG quote recalled:

  • “I am not a merry man.” (Brent and Joel laughing about Worf, 19:57)

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Important Timestamps by Topic

• 00:00-02:30 — Light banter, jingle trivia
• 03:26-07:00 — Joel joins, Saturn Awards, Tom Cruise, Shatner story
• 07:16-08:10 — Animal Control, TV comfort food, filming in Seattle/Vancouver
• 08:10-09:49 — Community and TNG shared stages, Dan Harmon anecdotes
• 12:25-15:54 — Chevy Chase documentary, on-set stories, empathy vs. sympathy
• 17:08-20:04 — Early acting stories (Spy Kids, Spider-Man), Michael Chabon’s showrunning
• 22:30-23:13 — Netflix docuseries, “agree to anything” work ethic, wife’s reaction to his schedule
• 26:12-32:41 — Comedy icons (Steve Martin, Eric Idle), influence on Joel’s career
• 33:47-34:52 — Debate: who’s more famous—Shatner, Tom Cruise, Ramsay, Dracula
• 36:44-37:56 — Joel plugs multiple shows, his surprise at his own career
• 39:47-42:46 — George Washington jokes, musical references, height jokes
• 43:33-45:16 — SNL stories, hosting, what-if sketches about Kevin Kline
• 49:21-51:19 — Dick Van Dyke anecdotes, Stan Laurel, comedic inspirations
• 55:01-56:17 — Final humorous stories (testicle/button anecdote), wrap-up banter

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, playful, with plenty of gentle teasing and self-deprecation.
• Deep Hollywood lore mixed with humor, affectionate ribbing, and candid storytelling.
• The hosts’ close friendship with Joel creates a uniquely candid and lighthearted atmosphere.

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Conclusion

A nostalgia-packed, laughter-heavy episode that provides listeners with juicy Hollywood tales, first-hand insight into Community and TNG, and a masterclass in not taking oneself too seriously. Joel McHale's candor about working with difficult stars, managing his eclectic career, and the virtues of always saying “yes” keeps the discussion fresh, relatable, and often hilarious.

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For full context and all the gags, listen to the episode itself—guaranteed laughs and name drops abound!

Transcript

[A]

Brent. Yeah.

[B]

Can I tell you something? Sure. I didn't know I was going to enjoy this as much as I am.

[A]

I'm enjoying it a lot, too.

[B]

You find that you're learning as we go.

[A]

Completely.

[B]

But also the show.

[A]

I feel like I'm teaching.

[B]

Well, you're teaching me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I find that the idea that the way that we bullshit each other when we're having dinner or riding in a car together or on a plane or whatever we're doing translates quite well into the podcast.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what's also kind of interesting? And I thought about this a couple of times. You know, this is the closest as we're ever going to come to. To doing a talk show. Right?

[B]

It is a talk show.

[A]

It is a talk show, but like. Like, you know, Colbert or Johnny or Letterman or any of those guys. But then I think about it and I go, well, you know, they have do basically about 15 minutes with people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, we're doing an hour. Doing an hour is. Or an hour 15.

[B]

Because Eric likes all the extra footage.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And his editors, his international editing team.

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Right.

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They take. They're editing 24 hours a day.

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I. Well, I know. Well, we do.

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The editing is great.

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The editing is really.

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The editing is great.

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Awesome.

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Very important.

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But we do about six, seven hours with each person. And he cuts it down to an hour. Right.

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Just the gold.

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But it's also fun to get to hang out together. Right?

[B]

It sure is.

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Because I never.

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Because we don't see enough of each other.

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I never see you anymore. I don't see you.

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You know, if you don't see you, we call.

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We call.

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I sang three local jingles. Let me see if any of them work for you. And you recognize by.

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Yeah.

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Lights Less Filling. Y' all be listening here. It's got a third less calories than your regular beer. One month thing. Make me sing and shout. Lights less filling. And that really knocks me out.

[A]

What is it? Miller Light. Miller Light. That's what I was gonna guess.

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Okay, here's one more.

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Yeah.

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Jack in the Box. You really cooking? Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack in the Box. You remember that one?

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Is it Jack in the Box?

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Yes. How about this?

[A]

I got it. Yeah.

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This is a supermarket that no longer exists. Thank God you're here because I I crickets with this earlier. It's Joe Albertson's supermarket, but the produce department is mine.

[A]

Albertsons, is it? That's not a defunct supermarket. There's Albertson's out here.

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Remember the song? No.

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No.

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It's Joe Albertson's Supermarket. But the meat department is mine.

[A]

It works for any department. Joe Albertson. Wait, let me see if I gotta learn that song.

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It's Joe Albertson's Supermarket. But the.

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But the deli chip department chips and pretzel section is mine.

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Oh my.

[C]

Laughter sings pull up a seat. Join the game of bread and johnny potash.

[A]

Would you mind, Jeff Epstein. There you go. Would you mind doing your. Your opening monologue from the Saturn?

[C]

So the other night, I don't remember it.

[B]

Did you help write it?

[C]

Well, my friends write. I always contribute. But they are. And they'll have an idea and then I'll go. They'll go, here's a better idea than yours. And I'll be like, yeah, well, way better.

[A]

You really? Yeah, it was wonderful. You. It really.

[B]

I look forward to you coming out in the way that you don't usually look forward. Because what usually the host slows the show down.

[C]

Yeah, that show was it. Well, it's. It was long.

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Certain people whose names I won't give, I won't drop felt entitled.

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I dare you.

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Un.

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But then you'll never work with them. Whoever you referring to.

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I will say something positive though. I found Cameron's third or fourth speech inspiring. Yeah, Tom Cruise stayed for the whole fucking show.

[C]

Tom fucking Cruise. I want you to think about that.

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Yeah.

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He will never be on this podcast.

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Enough you're.

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I mean, I've said it.

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How many more things do I guarantee? Come on, Cameron.

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Tom Cruise. Cruise.

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Cruise.

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He'll never be on this podcast.

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The sound was terrible. You know, we. We presented to Shatner and then he gave a speech and we were on stage with him and we couldn't hear him.

[C]

Now who is Shatner?

[A]

Shatner is the. As they call him.

[B]

Did he

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used to be on some TV shows?

[C]

He was on 94 year old William Shatner who will still compass me maybe come on this show.

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Oh yeah, we hollered him that night within the same night we collared you.

[A]

And his response was yeah, if you'll come on my podcast.

[B]

You don't do a Shatner impersonation.

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Not very good one.

[C]

You're bad. Shatner is probably the best one.

[B]

Well, he does a captain is quite good. If only we could get Sir Patrick Stewart on the show.

[C]

Why wasn't he the inaugural?

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He should have been. Well, no, Lavar was the inaugural.

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Generational. Nobody has done what he has done. Which is. He is famous in three generations.

[A]

Yeah, he was famous before he was famous.

[B]

You talked about Lavar.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, he had. He has three brands.

[C]

Shatner can't even say that TJ Hooker wasn't the cultural.

[B]

What about when he played that drunk lawyer?

[C]

Are you talking about Reading Rainbow?

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We're talking about Shatner.

[B]

We went back to Shatner from Lamar.

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The.

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The show that he was like Private Practice, but it became something else.

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A lot of researchers here. Hey, dumb dumbs, what's going on?

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Boston Legal. Boston Legal.

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Boston Legal, sorry.

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And they went out and they sat.

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I'm just going to abuse the brilliant on Boston.

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They drank scotch at the end of the show.

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Yeah.

[B]

And they were doing an episode, I never forget. They did an episode about people who ate other people.

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Cannibals.

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They had a cannibal episode. And Shatner looks over it hopefully. He said, would you eat me? And what's his name?

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James Spader.

[B]

Spader says, yeah, I would. What about you, Bill? Or no, whatever his name was.

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Denny.

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Denny. Denny Crane. Yeah. What about you, Danny? He said, oh, yeah. That was the end of the show. And they went out and those two guys drinking scotch, talking about eating each other.

[C]

That was on a regular broadcast, prime time.

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Yes.

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Procedural crime. Like you.

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You're a Fox guy.

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Thank you very much for that transition.

[B]

Jonathan, you want to talk about Animal Control?

[C]

Animal control. Thursdays, 8 o' clock on season four. Season four on Hulu and Netflix. Look it up, guys.

[B]

Let me tell you about. There's people going like, okay, in my home, I live with a woman named Jeannie Francis for 40 years and we watch some TV that is too heavy for the end of the night where there's a lot of gore. Like, we're currently in the middle of fallout Fun. Yeah. So what do we close down with? We go upstairs. Are you ready for a little Animal Control? Yes.

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Do you guys hear that?

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Because it's funny, it's kind, it's not violent, it's ironic, it's smart, the actors are charming. And it's 22 minutes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And you're done.

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It's a win.

[A]

I love a 22 minute show.

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There's animals running around.

[B]

Now, is it a coincidence that it's shot in Seattle? From which. From whence you came?

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Well, it's shot in Vancouver, of course. Yes. At one point it was shot and it was being set in Chicago, which I would have been. I love it there. Must run. My dad's family's from. But when they were like, how about Seattle? I was like, yeah, because they were getting a deal in Vancouver. And I was like, this works out perfectly. And Seattle, it's One of the greatest cities on the planet.

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It is a beautiful city.

[C]

Did you know that Next Generation.

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Yes.

[C]

A show that you have both appeared on was shot on the same stages as Community?

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No.

[C]

Yeah. Really? I can. I have a photo of the stages.

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8 and 9. 7 8, 9, 7.

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8. 9 or 16.

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16.

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Thought it was like 3. 32 and. No, that was. It was the original Star Trek.

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Oh, it was shatter. Star Trek. Well, well,

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that entire part.

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It was a nice story for a minute.

[A]

But speaking of community. Yes.

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This movie.

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I can't wait to get. Oh, we're doing the movie. Yes. I think that's awesome.

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Oh, there's a. Yeah. Community movie. Yes. Is Dan Harmon involved?

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Dan Harmon, did he write it? He. He is. He and Andrew Guest are writing it.

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Oh, I love Dan Harmon. You know, I did a reading. I think I told you this once, but I did a reading of a movie with Dan Harmon playing roles in the movie. In the reading. The people who wrote Unforgiven. Wonderful writers.

[C]

Clint Eastwood film.

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Wrote a movie about Lana Turner and. Yeah.

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Oh, Jesus, thank you.

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Lana Turner.

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God, you're here.

[A]

And Johnny Stompanato. Do you know that story?

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No.

[A]

Oh, okay. Well, that's too long to tell you, but they had Lana Turner.

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It's a podcast. We can do whatever the fuck we want.

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Never stopped you before. No, that's true.

[A]

Lana Turner and Johnny Sampanato. We'll be right back with the Lana Turner.

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If you're just joining us.

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They dated. He was kind of a gangster and she was, of course, a movie star. And they dated for a while and then her daughter murdered him. We think she put a knife between his ribs one night.

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That'll do it.

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Yeah. So that was the story they wrote for this movie. And Marina was in it. I was in it. We did in San Francisco.

[B]

This is a stage reading or a

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table reading, a staged reading of a movie. Lana Perea played Lana Turner. She was fabulous. And Dan Harmon did several roles.

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Forgive him for several roles and I'm sure killed it.

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Killed it. He was wonderful. I will say at that time in his life. I don't know about now, but at that time in his life, he came out on stage with. With a. What is the large bottle of whiskey called?

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Half a gallon.

[A]

No, not that big liter.

[C]

You mean it's seven. Yeah, 750 milliliter.

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A fifth.

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The big. But bigger than a fifth.

[C]

So I think that's half gallon.

[A]

Is that a half a gallon?

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Yeah. Does that have a handle on it? A hook?

[A]

No.

[C]

Researchers?

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No, it's one of those big bottles.

[C]

Nothing again.

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What do they call those big bottles like? Well, anyway, Jeroboam. It was a.

[C]

He came on stage, a Nebuchadnezzar.

[B]

Good call.

[A]

He came on stage with a Jeroboam of vodka. And he had an ice bucket right next to his seat. He offered me a little. I was afraid. And he put it in the ice. And we did the reading of this movie, which was great. And it was empty by the end of the reading.

[C]

My Lord.

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Yeah, but he was fantastic in all the parts. He was really surprisingly good actor.

[B]

And the messages.

[A]

The message is, do not mess with a movie star's daughter because she will stab you if you.

[C]

If you'll put that knife between your ribs.

[A]

That's. It's a great story.

[C]

I'll tell you all about it while you're doing it. Have a nice glass of Smirnoff Vodka.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

We're trying to get your brand.

[A]

No, we're trying to get Conic's Tail.

[B]

Conics Tail. No, Brent's drink is.

[C]

What do you drink, Brent?

[B]

He likes a vodka martini up with an olive and a twist. You know what he calls it?

[C]

Olive and a twist.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

He calls it a Dickens.

[A]

It's a Dickens, olive and twist. Oliver Twist.

[C]

Did you make that up?

[B]

I hope not.

[A]

Maybe. May have been drunk at the. No, I wasn't. I only have one.

[C]

What's wrong with gin? You.

[A]

That is a lie, too.

[B]

No, I've seen you have two.

[A]

Have you? I don't remember. I blacked out. I have gin when I. Occasionally. But we're trying to get this. This company called Conic Tail. Who is a vodka. That is only in England right now. Except for one little store in New York.

[B]

Another vodka Stinger.

[A]

But they're great. I'll drink anyway.

[C]

All right.

[A]

So we were talking about community.

[C]

Chronic vodka.

[A]

We were talking.

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I'm glad you're here.

[C]

This guy's paying for it, right? You're paying for it. We'll be happy to have a sponsor here. Then you are home free, my friend.

[A]

So we were talking about community and. Do you remember when Lana Turner and Johnny Stompanato were on the show?

[C]

It was great.

[B]

Anyway.

[A]

So. Famously.

[C]

Wait, I can't. I can't. I don't know what you're about to ask me.

[A]

Famously.

[C]

Chevy.

[A]

Jevy.

[B]

Oh, God. Do you want to go down this road?

[A]

I just want to ask.

[C]

I'm open. I'm an open book, guys.

[A]

Are you a Presbyterian?

[C]

Catholic? Catholic.

[B]

Born in Rome.

[A]

Yeah, Born in Rome. Let's go there first. So you're Italian?

[C]

That's where I was baptized.

[A]

In Rome?

[C]

No, there's like a mega church there.

[A]

How many years, how many times have you been baptized?

[C]

Like, I don't know, every six months.

[B]

Did you get baptized at the Sistine Chapel?

[C]

I did not the Sistine Chapel. At the Vatican, guys.

[A]

Thank you. At the Vatican. Baptized at the Vatican?

[C]

Yeah. Why not?

[A]

Yeah. Well, if you're there.

[C]

If you're there.

[A]

Yeah. And you were born.

[B]

Why not?

[C]

I think it was Jesus.

[B]

Jesus baptized.

[A]

Well, you just don't want your folks on a vacation.

[C]

John the Baptist was not there. Parts of him were. His head was there.

[A]

Of course. Yeah.

[B]

It reminds me of.

[C]

I was not on vacation. We were living there.

[A]

But how long did you live there?

[C]

Not long. Like three years.

[A]

So you, you're a floor.

[C]

Understood. Got the baptism, got the thing and then got out.

[B]

Good credit. Does it make you more interesting?

[C]

I mean, look at how riveted your staff is here.

[B]

I get it.

[C]

They've looked up from their laptops almost three times.

[B]

What?

[C]

Well, Konik Vodka is going to sponsor.

[B]

We got good news from Konik.

[A]

Getting back to community.

[B]

So many other things I want to talk about.

[A]

Well, one thing I want to ask is have you seen the Chevy documentary?

[C]

I have now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you seen it?

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's kind of. I don't know what your reaction having known him and actually tangled with him. I, I.

[B]

Good verb.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's gentle. I, I felt bad. Didn't you, didn't you come out kind of going.

[C]

Yeah, you know, he never wanted to. He never liked being on the hours of that show.

[A]

Well, that's.

[C]

And he didn't want to be there. And because. And there were times where he was so funny and as funny as could be and then, you know, the stories precede themselves, his on set antics, so.

[A]

But there's this giant, complicated human being there.

[C]

I mean, but aren't we all? Yeah, we are all.

[B]

Did you ever do his talk show?

[A]

Chevy's? No.

[B]

He was so mean to me. That was the level of talk show I was allowed to get on.

[A]

You were on Chevy Chase talk show.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Dude.

[C]

He probably didn't like your height.

[B]

He didn't like anything about me.

[C]

Yeah, you. Well, you're reminded him. Yeah, he.

[A]

Yeah, boy, that guy, the documentary. I felt like, yes, he was really wonderfully funny. He was doing great movies and stuff in his day. But it's just the pain, the amount of pain this guy has in his being. Relate to it.

[C]

Huh?

[B]

Is that why you. Did you have empathy?

[A]

No.

[C]

Sympathy.

[A]

I don't do empathy, but Data, that's

[B]

why he was cast as Data.

[C]

He got that empathy chip at one point and.

[B]

Boy, that really. I know.

[C]

Six vodkas.

[A]

I watched the podcast that night. Anyway.

[C]

Yeah, no, you know, Chevy was. When he was on. It was great. When we got good stuff, it was great. And then there's other times he was just, you know, yelling a lot.

[A]

I mean, I came out feeling. I'm glad he. His family loves him, which clearly they do. And I thought, family, that's nice.

[C]

Yeah. And they were always incredibly kind.

[A]

And he's not in the movie. Right.

[C]

I don't know if he's allowed to be. So. Yeah, I'm not sure.

[B]

Spy Kids.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

You went deep on the Wikipedia.

[B]

Well, I'm curious about Rodriguez.

[C]

I couldn't believe I got cast and Jessica Alba played my wife.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[B]

Come on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Was Ricky Gervais in that movie?

[C]

He was the dog.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They're just the point.

[A]

Did you fall in love with Carla Gugina?

[B]

You sure did.

[A]

We all. You can't.

[C]

He's a friggin genius.

[A]

She is.

[C]

She's.

[A]

And she's gorgeous and.

[C]

And she's in something that's.

[A]

Right now.

[C]

Right now that's about to come out. But I think she's going to be in Bill Hader's new movie coming out. That's being.

[B]

You got a little Bill Hader in you.

[C]

I'll take that any day of the week. Barry is one of my favorite shows of all.

[A]

Yeah, Barry's great.

[C]

Yeah. What we do with the Shadows, by the way, speaking of favorite films, Doug Jones has been there like four years in a row. And Doug Jones, Guillermo del Turo.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Doug Jones is wild. Doug Jones, he's decided he's enough with the Rubberheads because he's like 60. And he said.

[C]

And then you see him on what we do in the shadows and he is comedic.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Gold. Oh, he's funny.

[C]

Go watch it.

[A]

He's wonderful. Yeah.

[C]

Now stop the show.

[B]

Spider Man.

[A]

Stop it.

[B]

Spider Man.

[C]

That was Sam Raimi. Sam Raimi, Yeah. That was. That was the lucky. I mean, I had a small part in that movie, but I only got that audition because my friend who I went to high school with, Jason Burns, who was my manager. Manager. Then he was at Gersh and I was hip, did not have an agent. And he was like, I got you this audition for Spy for like two lines in Spider Man. I'm like, great. And then I improvised for 10 minutes. And then Sam Raimi put me in the movie.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And I couldn't believe it. And then.

[B]

Did you ever meet Michael Chabon, who wrote the.

[A]

No, he wrote the script.

[B]

He wrote the script for Spider Man.

[A]

He's one of the greatest genius, maybe the greatest.

[B]

He was on our. On Picard.

[A]

He ran.

[B]

He ran.

[A]

He's a showrunner. First season, Picard. How did he do?

[B]

He didn't like the job.

[C]

It's a lot.

[A]

I mean.

[B]

And he said, could you train him up? I'm sorry.

[A]

Go ahead. No, you tell him.

[B]

I said, what do you mean? Because I was directing. He said, take him to the meetings that, you know, show him what the showrunner has to do. So I'd go and get him before we had to go to the prop department to see the props. He said, why am I going? I said, because they want your approval. Of what side?

[C]

Every.

[B]

Every knife. Then I said, two hours later, we got to go to the costume meeting. Wait, we got to go there? I said, yeah. So we get in a golf cart. Why am I going to this? Because they want to know if they want the green dress or the blue. That's what I said. Yeah. So it.

[C]

It became climbing. It wasn't like writing every day because you're like. Once you're done with hiking, they're like, all right, let's set up an entire camp and now cook all of our food.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then we'll go to bed and wake up an hour before we start hiking because we gotta break all this down.

[B]

He's a genius writer.

[A]

He's a brilliant writer.

[B]

Sweet guy.

[C]

Well, tell him to bring back Mr. Jacks.

[A]

You know, I think that was my character.

[C]

Right, guys?

[B]

Yeah, Mr. Jack.

[C]

I could have made up any name

[B]

and they would have said two lines. It started. It's two lines, and it became the soliloquy. He just had a Cavalier and clay. Opera. That's a book he won.

[C]

He just wrote an opera.

[A]

He wrote a book, won the Nobel. I mean, the Pulitzer Prize.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then they just adapted it to be an opera. You could have been in that.

[C]

An opera.

[A]

Yeah. That's.

[C]

A lot of people have hired me to sing.

[B]

Do you sing?

[C]

No, I've sung.

[B]

You sing?

[C]

No, I don't. I really.

[B]

What's your go to?

[C]

I don't have any. Okay. I really don't.

[B]

I. I don't like carrying a real singer. Yeah, he's a tenor. I mean, he's a real singer.

[C]

Well, you guys got to do so many in similar to community and that we got to do all sorts of wild things.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Within the. If you know, in the world of. Once Dan Harmon's imagination took off and he got away. He got away. Could do anything. It was great. So when you guys go to the holiday. Yeah. You can do anything you want.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'll never forget when Wharf bashed the mandolin in the the Robin Hood.

[A]

I am not a merry man. Exactly.

[C]

My entire high school schedule was built around reruns of the Next Generation.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Because it came on KTSW channel 13 or channel 11 in Seattle at 11 o' clock at night. And I thought I'm not ever going to do zero period or first period because that will cut into my Next Generation viewing. So I made sure I didn't start high school senior year until like 9:15.

[B]

So you could control your schedule.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

In the late 80s 90s. When is this.

[C]

And yeah. I graduated from 91.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And look where you are now when

[C]

you guys were born.

[B]

You are so young.

[A]

Yeah. You're like a child. Well, but

[C]

as much.

[B]

Except for the gray beard.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I love that you're getting some salt in your pepper.

[C]

I did put some. I enhanced it on Sunday night.

[B]

So that's trans.

[C]

Something.

[A]

James.

[C]

Yeah, Mr. Detouro. I'd love to be in the New Abyss. The Next chapter, please.

[A]

I want to know about when you. You did a documentary series about the. The Tiger King people.

[C]

I did the Where Are They Now?

[A]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[C]

Where Are They Now?

[A]

You know, I think there's a sequel. Where Are They Now Now.

[C]

Yeah, you know, that was right. As the

[B]

kind of Joe Exotic.

[A]

Can you take that out in post Felon.

[C]

No, I did that because they that thing had aired and was a gigantic hit and it was Covid.

[B]

That's. Was that not why it was a hit?

[C]

Squid Game and Yellowstone all took off at that. They all took off at the same time. So I, I maybe. No, I mean it's really good. So I mean that first shot when they're like hey, you want to see a snow leopard? And he just opens the back of a van and there's.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean that's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was had a kind of a drug dealer vibe which was made it kind of interesting.

[C]

Yeah. Because they were on drugs.

[A]

There was murder involved too, wasn't there?

[C]

Well, there was a lot of killing of tigers.

[A]

Yeah. But.

[B]

But also there was some real life.

[C]

Well, the woman had the competing.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Private zoo.

[B]

Right.

[C]

The whole story about her first husband disappearing.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Flying to Costa Rica and there was

[A]

a belt buckle hanging out of one of the tiger's mouths.

[C]

And that was her second husband. Oh, no, that's. That is the rumor that her second husband definitely dressed up, like, with animal collars and things. Yeah, things like.

[A]

Like that.

[C]

So. But that I only did the, like, where are they now?

[A]

Because the thing.

[C]

Such a hit on Netflix.

[B]

You say yes to everything.

[A]

That's what I was going to say.

[C]

That is my book. That's Me too. Just agreed to anything.

[B]

But your name's in the title as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, if I can.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I. My. My poor wife. She'll be like. She'll be like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm gonna like this podcast. I was like, do you mind if I. I was like, I can't believe it. And so that's.

[A]

How much are you making? She says, yeah, what number?

[C]

And he was like, you won't believe it. 120k for the hour. They are.

[B]

And you're worth every bit.

[C]

Even the guy who's paying for it doesn't even realize it.

[B]

What was the vibe like?

[A]

No, keep.

[C]

Don't worry. Don't look at your. This just make. Sell it. Sell Conic Vodka.

[B]

What was the vibe? Yeah, we got to get the name right.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then you could do the ad with us.

[C]

Can you guys get me on one of the Star Trek shows?

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

We have the question. What Star Trek shows?

[C]

Anyone?

[B]

No, but we're in the. They just finished shooting Strange New Worlds. Starfleet Academy. Strange New Worlds is wrapped. Prodigy is gone. Lower decks is gone. Picard is gone. Hoping so, yes, I'm happy to.

[C]

Holodeck maintenance, Replicator repairman.

[B]

Jeffrey's tube crawler.

[A]

Yeah, maybe.

[B]

Let me ask you another question. You know what?

[A]

I already owe Olivia Colman a shot before we do it for you, so.

[C]

Yeah, genius.

[A]

Yeah. How about this bear? In the bear. That's great.

[B]

In the bear.

[A]

Yeah. Everybody there?

[C]

When she gave her. I was in. Well, my character. Your character was in that room while she was giving that speech, and she was, like, all nervous. And then it. They were like, action.

[B]

And just like, is she as fabulous as we hope?

[C]

Two takes and then. Yeah, and Chris only does, like, one or two takes, and he was like, great.

[A]

And I was like, fucking A. Yeah,

[B]

well, she was fabulous. As. We hope.

[C]

She is as fabulous. She's as cool. You know what happened? Like, as we already. Like, when you're like, don't meet your heroes. Like, no, no. Meet 99% of your heroes, because they're all great. And then there's.

[A]

You know then there's 1%.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about a futile and stupid gesture.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[B]

Where.

[C]

Yeah, that's why you guys act. Talk about your favorite movie. Right, Brent?

[A]

What's that?

[B]

A futile, stupid gesture.

[A]

Which one?

[C]

Get out.

[B]

It's a futile and stupid gesture.

[A]

Oh, I love that play. It was. Olivia Coleman was in that.

[C]

Olivia Coleman.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It took place in. It was like the third ring of Saturn.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Ironic because of the Saturn Awards. It was.

[B]

You're always bringing it back to the Saturn Awards.

[C]

See what I mean? Which I figured out. Take as long as it takes to get to Saturn. But those. The twin brothers who. They know how much I give them, but who run that show. But I played Jeffy Chase in that movie.

[A]

Oh, yes, that's right. I didn't know it was called that.

[C]

It's called that because Doug Kenny, who is one of the. Who if you guys look him up, he created the National Lampoon, wrote Animal House, wrote Caddyshack, and then passed away.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And he was like 29. Who played

[A]

Doug Kenny in that?

[B]

Will Arnett.

[C]

Not Will Forte.

[B]

Will Forte.

[C]

Sorry. Will Arnett. And Will for Will Forte, who is a wonderful freaking real genius as well.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And he played it so beautifully. And. And I. I played Chevy, who was around there around that time. It's a good movie, guys. But think about that. Think about that run in like he had like a eight year run.

[A]

Unbelievable. Did Chevy see that movie, do you know?

[C]

I don't know, but he was. I did call him and go, Chevy, I'm going to play you. But he was very happy that Doug Kenney was getting honored due. He is not as well remembered as all the titans that came out of that time.

[A]

You know, my only real connection to that whole episode was that at his memorial service, the. The person who spoke, who was the. Conducted the. Gave the eulogy at his memorial service was Marianne Williamson, who I went to high school with.

[B]

Everybody in the world went to high school.

[A]

Yeah, she was in my drama class.

[C]

She taught the drama.

[A]

No, no, she was in my drama class. She's younger than me.

[B]

With Pickett.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He studied drama with Wilson Pickett.

[A]

Yeah. Wow, that's cookie. Oh, that's a deep cut.

[B]

That is.

[A]

But anyway, all right, what I want to know about is the. The correspondence dinner.

[B]

That's what I was going next to

[A]

2014 hosted the 2000. Is that Obama?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. The Obama.

[B]

The second. Second guest drop. Obama. Who.

[A]

Who else?

[B]

Lavar.

[A]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Who did you give Lavar.

[B]

That was for Obama and levar and Michelle.

[A]

There you go. So tell us the, the correspondence dinner.

[C]

And did you.

[A]

You. But you were zipping them. You were giving them the. The.

[C]

Yes. Our. Our goal was to. I mean, obviously things have changed now. But, but, but that at that time we had a president that could take a joke.

[B]

Did he approve your.

[C]

No, I didn't show anybody any. No. No. I didn't show any like. And that's. I talked to Kimmel and Conan and.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Thank you. And Craig Ferguson. And I was like, there's good some more coming. But I was like, how, how does one, you know, how does one do this? I'll stuck to Seth Meyers. Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And they were like, do. Don't tell anybody your jokes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And they. And it was so nerve wracking as ner. It was the most nervous I have ever.

[A]

I would imagine.

[B]

What about the security you have to go through to work at it?

[C]

Before I was even can. Like, there were all sorts of background checks.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I, I mean I. Yeah. I buried those bodies so far away in a different country. Yeah. There's no other way they could catch up in that amount of time. But it was. Yeah. I've never. When I stood up to tell the jokes, I got. I started getting dizzy.

[A]

Oh, I bet.

[C]

I was like, whoa, here we go. Here we go.

[A]

But you were getting good reactions to them. Right.

[C]

I got. Well, because there was. We are in a much more divisive time. But ironically. But they were.

[A]

They.

[C]

And they all told me they'll be like, no one's gonna laugh when you make fun of that. Like when you make fun of the Democrats, they're not going to laugh. The Republicans will laugh and vice versa.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And then if you're saying something a little risque, they're gonna go, ooh. And they were just like, lean into that and make sure you point that out. And then that was.

[B]

And who's they? The producers of the show.

[C]

No, when I was talking to Kimmel

[A]

and

[B]

that's those guys. And I can't imagine.

[C]

And everything was keep it short.

[A]

Unlike we kept. Yeah.

[C]

We kept cutting jokes because they were like, the president is opening for you and he's going. He's going to go after. I mean he was so. He was the best one at telling jokes and he was incredible. And they were like, he's going to go after. He'll. And then. But he's like, he gets big laughs because he's so good at it. We got and then like. And then you're closing it and then you are the last thing away from all the big parties and so you're like, keep it short. So our was. Was like 13 minutes.

[B]

No kidding. So you had a, a standup for 13. You didn't do any introductions or.

[C]

No, I just got up there and did your shtick. Did the thing and had all those jokes and then you're sitting there because topical jokes, people tell the same ones. Like we both had the same John Bord joke about Orange is the new Black. So I was like ripping jokes out of my as. As. Like Obama was telling jokes. I was like, ah, that. Can't tell that one. Can't tell that one. Because they were just kind of basically the same joke.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It was when it was done, I took a. That glass of red wine. It was like, all right, I did it and. But then like Russell Wilson was in the, like the Seahawks. New Seahawks quarterback at the time was

[B]

there and did you take Sarah, is that your wife's name?

[C]

Yes, Sarah. And the whole family wins.

[B]

I got their names too. Edward and Isaac.

[C]

Yes. And it's Isaac's 18th birthday today.

[A]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[C]

Happy birthday, my boy. Yeah, can't believe it.

[B]

What about A Big Year?

[C]

A movie strangely no one saw. I mean, not strange. It came and went so fast. Starring. You got your Jack, Black Jack, your Owen Wilson. Oh, Steve Martin. Well, hey, all my scenes were with Steve Martin. Oh, go ahead. So I was. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. It's a movie about.

[B]

Thank you, Steve.

[C]

Not bird watching, birding. Steven Weber and I played. Oh yeah, there you go.

[A]

Weber.

[B]

He's coming.

[C]

Is he?

[B]

Oh yeah.

[C]

Great, great man. Our scenes were all just with. I couldn't believe it.

[B]

You and Steve Martin and Weber together?

[A]

Yeah. Do you and Steve get together now at all?

[C]

No, no, he's. I'm. Who do you think I am?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No, we have corresponded over the years.

[A]

Have you?

[C]

And then I see I'll see him at a like an award show.

[B]

Not to Saturn.

[C]

He's super sweet and kind and cool and I can't believe it. I mean I. He's like a hero. I mean Tom Cruise is. You're like. He's so like the iconicness of them is. It's hard to get like. Yeah.

[A]

For young, young folks who never saw him. Steve Martin was the greatest stand up ever. Yeah, I mean, well, I mean I didn't see Jack Benny for you folks,

[C]

but Steve Martin became a. Like Jack Benny was huge. But Steve Martin was like Filling arenas.

[A]

Huge arenas. Yeah.

[C]

Rose bowl size. He was the first one to do stuff. Stuff like that.

[B]

An inspiration to you, I would guess.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, my Lord. Couldn't believe it. Like, I was like. I called my. I was like, you're not gonna believe this. This is insane. And then, like, it reminds me of it on the soup when we had Eric Idle on where I was like, holy crap. Eric Idol has agreed to come on the show. Monty Python, guys. J Comedy forever.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

So does Steve.

[A]

So did Steve. Yeah. I couldn't wait. From Monty Python when I was a young guy, when it was on TV and it was.

[C]

This is when you're in your 40s.

[A]

I was in my late 30s at the time. Don't make me older than I am. You're how old? Well, I. I should I say.

[C]

I mean, who.

[A]

I'm. 93 cats out of the bag. 93.

[B]

Now you look great.

[A]

People tell me that I look good for 93, you know, shatter's 94. I look better than now.

[C]

He looks good.

[A]

He does look good, isn't it?

[C]

He doesn't have any wrinkles.

[B]

Oh, well, that's. And he lost 50 pounds. 50.

[C]

Good God.

[B]

And he's. That means he's so compos mentis. You know what his tick. His secret is curiosity.

[C]

Oh, I thought you were gonna say.

[B]

Yeah, I don't have any.

[C]

You're gonna say. I don't say Savion. Yeah, well, isn't that all right?

[A]

He is an amazing guy, really. Yeah, he is.

[C]

And he went up in the penis rocket.

[A]

Yes, he did. But I think he may be. I think he's the most famous person in the world. I don't think he could go anywhere and find someone who's never heard of William Shatner or Captain Kirk.

[B]

I disagree.

[A]

Do you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who do you think's more famous?

[C]

Dracula.

[A]

He's not alive.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

Dracula. He's immortal.

[C]

Now, would you say that someone like Gordon Ramsay.

[A]

Gordon Ramsay more famous than William Shatner International?

[C]

Then you go, like in this room

[A]

there are people who don't know who Gordon Ramsay is. Anyone here?

[C]

That is not.

[A]

Anyone not know Gordon Ramsay. Oh, come on, Eric, you know people

[C]

not even paying attention.

[A]

Yeah, okay, never mind.

[C]

Because I go like Shatner.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, obviously one of the most famous people to ever exist, ever.

[B]

Well, Tom Cruise is more famous than Shatner, I would agree. Yeah. I don't want to blow your.

[C]

Your fence too, but I think. Yeah, when Tom Cruise.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I guess. But I don't know if.

[C]

But like Someone like Gordon Ramsay, who's in every single airport, and he's like the show. Same thing with a guy. Wolfgang Puck. They're like, level or blind. They're like in your. They're in. They're. They're a part of your life every day.

[A]

But, But Sherpas don't know who they are, and they know who William shot.

[C]

Well, now you're speaking for Sherpas.

[A]

Yeah, well, I, I. He's known a couple of every man.

[C]

Do you think Schwarzenegger is less famous than Shatner?

[A]

Yes. Oh, I think you could. I think you could if you, if you went.

[B]

I gotta say, Joel, I'm with you. I don't usually disagree with you, but you're full of. On this one. Was it that.

[A]

I didn't think it was that bad to me. Well, let's just put him in the top 10. Okay.

[C]

You guys still go to Comic Cons?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

How great is that money?

[A]

Well, it gets. You guys really got quiet.

[B]

It's amazing.

[C]

We go for the money.

[A]

There are guys who go. I mean, yeah, we do fine, but.

[C]

You do better than fine.

[B]

We do now.

[A]

You. We do now, but. What do you mean, now?

[B]

Well, we've been there for 40 years.

[C]

Well, also, the came. But the.

[A]

The thing has. No but.

[B]

They're on the. There are people coming like this and.

[A]

What's the name? He was at the show the other night, then said hello to him.

[C]

Norman Reedus.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How did you know?

[A]

That's what I was thinking.

[C]

Because you're a psychic.

[B]

He doesn't donate his money. Is that what you're saying?

[A]

Norman Reedus left a Comic Con and went out and bought a car. $150,000 with our cash, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he was there for half an hour.

[C]

I would think that would be also a light day for him.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. I mean, there are people like that. The stranger things.

[C]

You're just trying to

[A]

survive.

[C]

I see what you're doing.

[B]

How many do you do?

[C]

I wish I could do more.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I do. Like one or two a year.

[B]

That's it.

[C]

Well, I'm.

[B]

How many are you invited to?

[C]

Very busy.

[A]

You have a show?

[C]

No, I have four shows. I don't know why you haven't asked me about the others.

[A]

What?

[C]

House of Villains. It's on right now, guys. Thank you. That's on Peacock.

[A]

House of Villains.

[C]

Should I keep going?

[A]

Oh, I know. House of Villains.

[C]

One percent club on Fox. Next day on Hulu.

[A]

Yeah. Dang.

[C]

And then Crime Scene Kitchen.

[A]

Well, exactly.

[C]

Crime Scene Kitchen. On Fox. Next day on Hulu. Yolanda Camp. Wow.

[A]

Man.

[B]

I got to have to move my animal control.

[A]

I am down.

[C]

Why am I doing all my promotion?

[A]

Well, that's what you're here for.

[C]

It goes back to my credo of agree.

[A]

Yeah. Why not everything.

[C]

Yeah. I still to this day cannot believe people hand me money.

[B]

Well, because.

[C]

Do the thing that I like to do.

[B]

You have. You have that. You have charm, wit.

[C]

Listen up.

[B]

Accessibility, as they used to say.

[C]

Yeah. I'll talk.

[B]

You're ironic. You're fearless. You're fast on your feet.

[C]

Anxiety ridden.

[B]

Anxiety ridden. Good hair.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Oh. You know what else I envy you for besides all of the above?

[C]

We look like brothers.

[B]

We look like brothers.

[A]

I know. It's crazy.

[B]

We get bluntstones.

[A]

Bluntstones? Blunts would like to say, in case you're interested. These are bluntstones. They're fantastic boots.

[C]

They really are. You can't. The more you beat them up, the better they look.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You work in Vancouver. You have to have them or they don't let you across the border. A show I've been begging to get on, which is no longer on the air, and you've done is drunk history.

[C]

Oh, that was great.

[B]

Did you ever do drunk history?

[A]

No.

[B]

Wouldn't you have loved it?

[A]

I would have passed.

[C]

I want to see who does.

[B]

Did you play somebody famous?

[C]

I played. Here's what's crazy. I played John Alden, who was one of the pilgrims.

[A]

Mayfield. He was on the Mayflower.

[C]

Yeah. And he helped expose the young women who were pretending to be witches. And back. Going way back through my family history. I'm related to him. Wow. But, I mean, so are a zillion people now. But. But I was like, what are the old. John Alden As. He was trying to avoid these witches that a. One of his offspring would be doing a television show which didn't. About a. Where someone was super wasted. I. While they told the story.

[B]

Tell you, that show just. It was always good. Different levels of it. Always entertaining and informative, and I. I

[A]

begged to get on.

[B]

Ken wasn't famous enough to get on that show.

[A]

Is that a Ken Burns series?

[C]

No, no. I mean Ken Burns.

[B]

It's the opposite.

[A]

I beg to be.

[C]

I can't believe they didn't want you to be.

[B]

No, begged my agent. Me. Anybody who'd been. It's sort of like big bang. I'm gonna tell.

[C]

Are your agents here right now?

[B]

I don't have an agent anymore. That's not true. I do. I'm sorry, Elise. It's Called the opposite of name drop.

[C]

It's the anonymous name drop. Oh, I don't know.

[A]

You know, I know you're not supposed to read the comments, but I did. Apropos of this, I did read a comment that somebody made that said, have you noticed how much Spiner looks like George Washington? He should play George Washington. And I thought, yeah, George Washington. He was a Jew, right?

[C]

Was he a Jew from Houston?

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[C]

Oh, but you would be a good

[A]

George Washington, do you think?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Bostwick.

[B]

Boswick's got George Washington hair.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is Boswick coming on the show?

[C]

Your teeth are too good.

[A]

Yeah, they are, but it's a part. Part of them are wood.

[C]

Guys, let's. Let's get on this George Washington, see

[A]

if there's anything out there right now.

[B]

I see that comment. Did you see that comment?

[A]

Yeah, I didn't either. Oh, you didn't see that comment?

[C]

I rarely check the comments, but I

[B]

did see the one about me playing George.

[A]

I agree. I'll research it.

[C]

I would be fantastic.

[B]

George.

[A]

I did not make that up.

[B]

But you're not above making shit up.

[A]

No, no, clearly.

[C]

I read the comments, which I would do, and they said, rutherford B. Hayes.

[A]

Rutherford B. Hayes. Yeah.

[C]

That would be me for you.

[A]

Unsung hero.

[C]

Yeah, people like. That's what they say.

[A]

Yeah, you'd have been.

[B]

Maybe we could play brothers in a show.

[A]

Gabby Hayes. You could have played Gabby Hayes. Yeah, George. Gabby Hayes.

[C]

By the way, we're doing a name word association game.

[B]

Sorry, man. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[A]

Gabby Hayes. I mean, Isaac Hayes.

[C]

You could direct and star in something. Isaac Hayes, dead.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Do you have a who's dead list?

[C]

Do I. Oh, I know. I just have a list of people that I want to die.

[A]

Can we start at the top?

[C]

It's a long, long list. And then methods of death. It's not. I realize it could be evidence.

[A]

Yeah, later. Later.

[B]

Right, Whatever. Whatevs.

[C]

We're playing brothers, and I think you're directing, so if you don't mind playing George Washington in this movie we're in.

[A]

Don't mind. But either.

[C]

I'm gonna pass on this too.

[A]

No, you're the one that

[C]

I talked to, Evie.

[A]

Ari.

[C]

Yes. Begging you to do these things.

[A]

I know. I could do George Washington. The later years.

[B]

Post. Standing up in the boat.

[A]

Well, I'm thinking if you're in it, I'm either standing on a box or you're in a hole. One or the other. Because he was supposed to Be a very tall guy.

[B]

Oh, we can fix that. We can fix that with a camera.

[C]

George Washington height, too.

[A]

Like, oh, I, I, man, I could see me as George Washington. Wait, how tall was he? Crazy tall for his time. Well, I have played John Adams, by the way. Sit down, John. Sit down, John.

[B]

1776. You got any musical comedy references like that?

[C]

I've never heard of any musicals from that time.

[A]

No, no, that's the title from my time.

[C]

Has there ever been a musical about our founding father?

[B]

He was a star on Broadway. Played John Adams.

[A]

I played six.

[C]

Oh, well, I think you guys might have been overshadowed by Hamilton.

[A]

Yeah, this was a revival.

[C]

That one did pretty well.

[B]

William Daniels played him originally.

[A]

Daniels played John Adams in the original production and I did the first revival.

[B]

Rolling out. Hear the bell is bouncing now.

[C]

You know who William Daniels played, famously?

[B]

The guy in the kit. Car voice.

[A]

Get the car. And Mr. Somebody on C3PO. I know people are going to get angry, but nobody played Mr. Mr.

[C]

He was on, he was on St. Elsewhere.

[A]

Oh, I love. I think that's one of the greatest shows.

[C]

Young Howie Mandel and Alfred.

[A]

Denzel Washington and David Morris and what a cast.

[C]

What a freaking cast. And then famously they ended that episode. And Harmon Cannibalism. They're like, can you believe these lawyers ate each other? We gotta put them back together. Wait, I like how you were like, I would be a great George Washington.

[B]

And then he poo pooed it.

[C]

And then he was like too short. And then we heard his height. And then you six one, you.

[A]

I'm like five, ten lifts.

[C]

I think it's fine.

[B]

I do too.

[C]

Do you? Yeah, this. We would just look like, you know, early volleyball players.

[A]

Yeah. All right, I'll do it.

[B]

It doesn't matter that if we're taller than you.

[A]

Nobody was taller than him. He was the tallest guy. That's why he was like.

[B]

Only from the pictures, the paintings of him in the boat.

[A]

No, people just.

[C]

It seems like you are stuck on

[A]

this height thing about issue, because aren't I? I'm sorry, what did you say you worked in the Borscht Belt before you got to the podcast?

[C]

Okay, well, yeah, we've really gotten to the bottom of you turning down the role. You just pitched yourself right.

[A]

I know. This is my. What's the history of my life?

[C]

What role have you turned down that you, when you, if you saw it, you were like, oh, I could have done that. Should have done that. Anything like that boy.

[B]

Yes, go ahead.

[C]

I don't really have any of those

[A]

Because I only agree something I wanted to do.

[B]

Can I tell you something?

[A]

May I tell you something? Both my now wife, when she. When I met her, she was publicist on our show. And she said when she became a publicist, she says, there anything you'd like to do? And I'll see if I could get that for you. I said, yeah, I want to. I want to host Saturday Night Live. And she said, okay. And she called them and she said, well, I called them and they said, we'd like to have Patrick Stewart. And they did. And Patrick did the show. Salt and pepper. Yes, he was on with salt and pepper. Exactly.

[C]

Yes. I remember. He did a. I'm sure this will be cut, but he did a sketch called doctor don't have anal sex.

[A]

Is that right?

[C]

I am not kidding.

[A]

Yeah, I don't remember that.

[C]

Look that up. He was.

[B]

Mulaney worked the salt and pepper into his stand up. That's pretty good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But that really was a sketch you did.

[A]

I had an idea for a sketch. Cause, you know, as a. As an actor, they ask you, do you have any ideas? My sketch would have been kind of a It's a Wonderful Life thing, but it would have been. What would my life had been if Kevin Kline had never lived? And I would have had so much more work.

[B]

You think Kevin Kline took your work?

[C]

You really opened up another.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think he took my work. I just think he. If he hadn't lived, I would have. Maybe.

[C]

That.

[A]

That would have been. Maybe I could have played.

[C]

Okay. I've never thought. Brent Spiner, Calvin Klein.

[A]

Oh, come on.

[C]

If they're in the same room, you can't tell.

[A]

I have signed his name for people who have come up to me. Yeah.

[C]

I find you different.

[A]

In a good way.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And differently.

[C]

Like both insanely skilled and talented, but not.

[A]

We could have played brothers. We could have.

[C]

Wait. Like you guys.

[A]

I'm as much like him as you are like him.

[C]

The revelation to everyone in this room.

[B]

No, I agree with you, Joel.

[A]

No.

[C]

Are you kidding me? Going at fucking Paul Giamatti every time.

[B]

I'll tell you what, Giamatti crushes it in the New Star Fleet Academy.

[C]

He's a fucking. He's a great genius.

[B]

He's fabulous. Did we get Giamatti?

[C]

Get Giamatti?

[A]

Of course. Well, I don't know if I could get him. But you was the commissioner.

[B]

Baseball. And because of him, Pete Rose is still out.

[A]

Pete Rose once get Pete Rose, man. What

[B]

Baseball. Do you like baseball? Season's about to start.

[C]

Yeah. Go Mariners. Go Mariners. We did great this year. This is our year.

[B]

You see what happened with Cal Raleigh yesterday?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What was that about? I think like a Rosarina reached down to shake his hand. Raleigh says, not during the wbc. Yeah.

[C]

He was like, come on.

[B]

Was that the vine?

[C]

I don't know what the details were, but it was odd. I mean, he also.

[B]

Not nearly as odd as the manager of the American World Baseball Classic team, didn't know that his team had not been. Was in fear of being eliminated from the World Baseball Classic. Have you seen that story?

[C]

No.

[B]

He said, oh, I thought we were a shoe in already. So he took school ball out and he took.

[C]

It's not good.

[B]

No, he took crowd out. He took. He took four of the stars out of the game thinking we're not gonna. It doesn't matter.

[C]

Saving them up.

[B]

Well, yeah, thinking I'll save him up because we're gonna be able to beat Italy anyway. Italy wins. And this guy goes on and says, I didn't know the rules.

[C]

Didn't know the rules. You probably shouldn't say that.

[B]

No.

[A]

Who are you talking about?

[B]

The manager of the American team in the World Baseball Classic, which is played during spring training every four years.

[A]

I could have played him.

[C]

Manager Cal Rally. The greatest hitting catcher.

[B]

Catcher since Johnny Bench.

[A]

Is that right? I watched the Great Britain game. Yeah.

[B]

It's funny how easily you can attach yourself to a country if you want to, as a baseball player.

[A]

Well, you know, and then ultimately they

[B]

have an uncle who was once in England. They can play for the.

[C]

See that picture?

[A]

See that picture right there of Kevin Clyde? Come on, come on.

[C]

I mean, you guys have a similar hairline.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And a similar nose.

[A]

Yeah. Well, what else do you need?

[B]

Devilish grin.

[A]

I mean.

[C]

I mean, you look like, wow, white guys.

[A]

That's it. They are. They do.

[B]

Yeah. If you're looking for two old white guys, definitely. Yeah.

[A]

But he's the two old white guy. He's the white guy who works. That's the difference.

[C]

You work all the time. And he would say, you turn it down all the time.

[B]

Thank you very much.

[A]

Well, it's true. I did turn down Fish Called Wanda, but I don't want to. No, I didn't, I didn't. Of course I didn't look.

[C]

Now we don't know what to believe.

[B]

Neither do I. I got one more old white guy I want you to fill us in on.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I've had the privilege of working with him as well. Dick Van Dyke.

[C]

I never worked with him.

[B]

Oh, it was on.

[C]

I was on Diagnosis Murder, one of my first jobs here in Hollywood. But I was in the first two minutes.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

So I was.

[B]

I had the privilege.

[C]

I wasn't in his. In, like. Because he did all the. He sings crime stuff and he sang Jim.

[B]

Jim Cherry on the set, and it just took me apart. He was delightful. He's 100. Is he?

[A]

I know Dick. He's 100. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. He's one of your neighbors?

[A]

No. Well, he. He lived in Malibu when I was living there, but first. First time I met him, I was having a meal in a restaurant in Malibu.

[C]

He was like, hold everything Heaven. How are you?

[B]

I'm a big fan.

[A]

Well, I guess this story goes nowhere now, because that's exactly what happened, actually, I'm eating lamb chops or something because I was eating meat back then and he's a pescatarian. I hear a voice behind me.

[B]

I spent a lot of time eating with him.

[C]

Lots of booze, no beef.

[A]

I heard a voice behind me say, isn't that lamb a little rare even for an Android?

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And I knew the voice and I went, oh, my God, Dick Van Dyke. And I said, dick, I love you and I feel the way about you as you felt about Stan Laurel and.

[C]

Stan Laurel?

[A]

Yeah, the great Stan.

[C]

That video that came out.

[A]

What video?

[C]

Of him. Of Dick Van Dyke and Chris Martin.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that was great.

[C]

Coldplay. Coldplay.

[A]

Great.

[C]

Wonderful.

[A]

It wasn't. It wasn't.

[B]

You could play Stan Laurel.

[A]

Well, you know what? I was so jealous when they made that movie. I told my managers to get me in for this movie. And then Steve Coogan did it, who was sensational. And I could never have been that good.

[C]

All right. You would have been great as Kevin Klein. I mean. Yeah, Kevin Klein was very important.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Laurels.

[A]

Are they making a movie about him? Because I could.

[B]

Yeah, he could be in it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Are you going to get Kevin Klein on the show?

[A]

I thought he would do the show. Kevin. He's got a series now.

[C]

He's also on Bob's Burgers. Really funny.

[A]

Is that right?

[B]

Important American actors.

[C]

Why did you turn that one down?

[A]

Exactly. Do you like Laurel and Hardy?

[C]

I do.

[A]

Yeah. I have a. It's a rule, It's a personal rule that I don't trust a person if they don't like Laurel and Hardy.

[B]

I think that's a good one. I think that's fair.

[C]

Laurel and Hardy or the Honeymooners?

[A]

Well, I. I lean towards Laurel and Hardy because I grew up with them. I mean, we were the same age you.

[C]

I was in graduate school when that show came. Yeah, I mean, those are.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I mean, they. And they probably shot them all right around.

[A]

They did. Well, up on Mulholland and Culver City and.

[C]

Yeah, I live right near Radford and.

[B]

And they did all their own stunts.

[A]

Yeah, they're tours. You could take that, all the spots they shot. Have you ever. Have you ever taken that tour? No, no.

[C]

With the vans that don't have the roofs. Yeah. Never been on one of those. Yeah.

[B]

Bad sound on those two. I bet.

[A]

That's the Sons of the Pioneers tour, it's called.

[C]

Is it really?

[B]

No, it was a reference.

[A]

Sons of the Pioneers is a group who. They exist today and they have meetings still because they're all huge Laurel and Hardy fans. Sons of the Pioneers is a big. Yeah.

[C]

Facts this. I did not know that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And because we.

[A]

I don't know where they meet. I really.

[C]

Pioneer. So it's, you know, I was like, oh, so it's going back to 1740.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I thought you were going back to pitching George Washington again.

[A]

Yeah, well, I think it's a Laurel and Hardy slash George Washington convention.

[C]

Are you like an expert on Laurel and Hardy?

[A]

I wouldn't call myself an expert. He's a big cine.

[B]

Very big cinephile.

[C]

You're one of those people that's like. Do you play golf? Once in a while, yeah. Shoots an 80, right.

[B]

You don't play golf, do you?

[A]

Exactly, No, I have played several times. I'm still waiting. If I. If you could just hit one good ball, you're.

[B]

You're hooked. That's the truth.

[A]

I've never hit a good ball.

[C]

I don't know. I need to hit more than one.

[A]

Do you have you hit one good ball? I have, yeah. I've never done it.

[C]

Not a golf ball, but.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No, One Good Ball is also a movie.

[B]

That's a nice title.

[A]

One Good Ball, One meatball. I have a friend who.

[B]

Wait.

[C]

Did you ever play Laurel and Hardy on Star Trek?

[A]

Yes, I played. No, I did. I played Jerry Lewis on Star Trek. Was he okay with it?

[B]

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Episcopal was on the show.

[A]

Yeah, he was playing a stand up comic.

[B]

You know who else Brett worked with on Star Trek?

[A]

Stevie. Stevie Hawking. The Hawk.

[B]

The Hoaxer.

[A]

It's pretty good. Yeah, I called him the Hawk.

[B]

He, you know, he loved David. Yeah, yeah, he loved.

[C]

He's had some bad press recently.

[A]

Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, I know. It's a.

[B]

It's never get Canceled?

[A]

What?

[B]

You'll never get canceled. Well, you do the right thing, we

[C]

can do it right now if we want to.

[B]

No, let's not. You said all those bodies you took to other countries you got rid of.

[C]

Yeah, they were. Yeah, I made sure. I made sure. I like how it's gotten quiet.

[A]

I keep getting the message from my

[B]

friend that he stopped the clock. He's pointed at me. You know what?

[A]

You know what I'm thinking, though? I'm still thinking about that? The possibility of a good film called One Good Ball. I have a friend, by the way,

[C]

we know you're going to turn it down.

[A]

No, no.

[C]

Why even pitch it?

[A]

I don't want. For myself. I want to write it or at least be on the staff. But a friend of mine had a situation. I don't know if you've ever heard of this, but sometimes young men are born and a testicle or two do not descend. And so he had to have surgery, and he had one testicle.

[C]

My movie's about a dance.

[A]

What? Are you okay?

[C]

No, this.

[A]

This is.

[B]

You're good.

[A]

You know what?

[C]

You are really good.

[A]

No, but so is this one. Okay.

[C]

Oh, this. I don't think we can sell this movie. He sounds more of a. I don't think you're an.

[B]

All right.

[C]

So your fantastical didn't fall, right? He had one testicle.

[A]

Yeah. And. But he had. The other one hadn't descended, so he had surgery to descend the other one. And when he woke up from surgery, he had a button sewed to his scrotum because the. The doctor had a sense of humor, I guess. I don't know. But it always helped keeping his shirt.

[C]

Well, welcome to the last episode of Dropping Names.

[B]

What a great setup.

[C]

That's amazing.

[B]

You are on fire,

[C]

Joel.

[A]

You brought this out.

[C]

I can't.

[A]

Please.

[B]

Oh, it's fantastic.

[A]

It's great, Joel. Thank you so much. That was fantastic, man.

[C]

All right. Welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience.

[A]

Was like. Should I be crying at the beginning? I don't know.

[C]

Why do we need a beginning?

[B]

Because somebody's got to say,

[A]

Joel, maybe we could do a.

[C]

You were on your phone when my name got mentioned.

[B]

Yeah, I did. I introduced you.

[C]

You were ordering more bracelets. You were like, I need one more bracelet to stop this watch from flying off my wrist.

[D]

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[E]

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[D]

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[E]

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[D]

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