The Robertson 'Duck Bros' Hijack Uncle Si’s Podcast

Summary

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Duck Call Room: The Robertson 'Duck Bros' Hijack Uncle Si’s Podcast

Host(s): Si Robertson & Justin Martin (absent this week)
Guests: Jacob Mayo, John Reed, Will Robertson, John Luke Robertson, Christian Huff, Bobby
Episode Date: July 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode marks a unique takeover of the Duck Call Room podcast. The classic crew is replaced by "the Duck Bros"—a group of Robertson sons, sons-in-law, and close friends. They dive into candid, often hilarious conversations about family, life with (many) kids, hunting adventures, childhood stories, running their distinct businesses, faith, and masculinity. The laid-back but lively banter offers a fresh, inside look at the generational torchbearers of Duck Commander, complete with authenticity and plenty of ribbing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Duck Bros": Who's Who and Family Catch-up

• Episode opens with Jacob introducing the non-regular lineup:
  • None are typical podcast hosts; banter about who should lead.
• Discussion on John Luke’s five kids:
  • Playful grilling on being a father of five.
  • “I’ve barely been home... most days Mary Kate’s got their twins.” (John Luke, 02:33)
• Family logistics:
  • Humor about needing limousines for so many children.
  • Suburban SUV talk and the threshold for outgrowing cars.

2. Summer Travels and Music

• Student Life Camp – Myrtle Beach:
  • Group recently led worship at a camp, which didn’t allow for as much beach time as expected.
  • “Abby was expecting to go and lay out on the beach every single day... once we took a look at the beach, it was sad.” (John Reed & Jacob, 04:57)
• Reflection on Gulf Coast beaches vs. others:
  • “Ain’t no Gulf Shores…” becomes a refrain.

3. Entrepreneurship, Stores, and the Legendary Speakeasy

• John Reed’s Building/Store:
  • Bought the building in 2018, self-renovated, slow process because of moving company work.
  • Rebecca’s store is “funky and cool,” now operational.
  • The back room “speakeasy” evolved organically from his personal office into a creative hangout.
  • “I was so busy the past decade... maybe the last year and a half, I’ve really been able to, like, full throttle and get everything finished.” (John Reed, 06:52)
• Liquor Licenses & Mocktails:
  • John Reed shares process of getting licenses and the mocktail/cocktail bar plan.
  • “I’m not a ‘boss type,’ more like a colleague leader type.” (John Reed, 09:22)
  • “It’ll be open maybe in the fall. I hope so.” (John Reed, 09:59)
• Rebecca’s Store Hours:
  • Thurs-Sat, 12–6 PM, Desier Street.

4. Jacob’s Vintage Shop & Lessons from Year One

• Turning the shop over to staff:
  • “Now... I started working at Duck Commander... so it’s really hands off on the day-to-day.”
• What Jacob’s learned:
  • Delegation, pricing, merchandising, and learning what sells (T-shirts, hats, seasonal items).
  • “You get to express yourself in the way you decorate your space—people feel a certain way coming in.” (Jacob, 14:10)
• Comparing styles between Jacob’s and Rebecca’s stores—both unique, both personal.

5. Personal Style & Self-Expression

• John Reed’s wardrobe decisions:
  • Embracing comfort and “self-manipulating” shirts for hot weather.
  • “I dressed up for y’all today. I do look homeless most of the time.” (John Reed, 14:45)
• Support from the group for Reed’s authenticity in style and business.
• History of design work for bar/restaurant clients in NY before finally expressing his own vision.

6. Tech, AI, and “Frosted Tips”

• Christian's adventures with AI (ChatGPT) to design a haircut:
  • Walks through using AI for a hypothetical “Thor” look and melting his hair color with "sun bum."
  • Multiple jokes about selfie addiction, comically large phone storage, and “personal brand.”
  • “Took a selfie at the beach... asked ChatGPT to give me short hair with a beard—and it bleached my hair.” (Christian, 20:07)

7. Creative Projects & Ministry

• Christian’s Podcasting & Speaking:
  • Appearing regularly on Unashamed and Sadie’s podcast (“Whoa, That’s Good”).
  • Writing a devotional centered on King David, soon to be published.
  • Multiple recent speaking events—Ruston, Camp Chioka, next up: Montana.
  • “I spoke about David…Ephesians 2 at Camp Chioka…two kids got baptized, one passed out from dehydration.” (Christian & John Luke, 25:41)
• New Business Collab:
  • Christian’s knife collaboration with Dawson Knives: handle color honors daughter Honey and is thematically tied to King David’s legacy (27:38).

8. King David, Faith, & The House of David

• Depth on King David’s life and relevance:
  • Christian reflects on David’s suffering, humility, and the complexity of biblical manhood.
  • “He suffered more than almost anyone…yet was the only king God chose.” (Christian, 28:07)
  • “Something about how David handled suffering…” (Christian, 30:58)
• Discussion on the “House of David” TV show:
  • Praised for realism, music, and honesty about brutality and faith.
  • Comparison to “The Chosen” and the value for non-believers as drama.
• Legacy of King David:
  • “Five most famous people ever: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Moses, and King David…” (Christian, 36:26)
  • David’s “Goliath moment” = essential to his global renown.
• John Reed notes real-life sling shooters on Instagram bring Bible stories to life.
• Uncle Si as “Uncle Rico”:
  • Joking comparison to the Napoleon Dynamite character—exaggerates hunting/fishing exploits (“throw a rock three miles”).

9. Hunting Adventures & Future Plans

• Reflecting on last year’s “guys’ trip” to Texas for an epic hunt.
• Deliberations about organizing a new brother-in-law/brother hunting adventure:
  • “If we make the plans, Willie will come.” (Jacob, 48:28)
  • Soliciting audience ideas for destinations and planning.

10. Reflections on Manhood, Peace, & Humility

• Will (in J.D. role) delivers a Bible verse:
  • “Turn away from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.” (Psalm 34:14, paraphrased; 50:02)
• Sharing wisdom on self-control as the cornerstone of masculinity:
  • “The thing that separates a boy from a man… is self-control.” (John Luke, 51:22)
• Jacob discusses "eulogy virtues" vs. "résumé virtues":
  • “A lot of people want eulogy virtues but put all their effort into résumé virtues.” (Jacob, 52:41)
• Christian adds humility as foundation for self-control and living out peace:
  • “You have to have humility to get there… Out of humility, you see self-control.” (Christian, 54:07)
• John Luke closes with the redemptive hope at the heart of Christianity:
  • “Every time you make a mistake, ask God for forgiveness, forgive yourself, apologize, and start over.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Is this your first podcast ever?" “I have no clue. Yes, I think ever.” (Jacob & John Reed, 01:00)
• “I’ve barely been home… had the older three at camp every day, but most days, Mary Kate’s got their twins.” – John Luke (02:33)
• “It finally did. This has been, like, the ongoing thing that we thought would never actually happen.” – John Luke, on the Speakeasy, (06:45)
• “You walk in, you feel like you’re on a movie set.” – Christian, (07:59)
• “You get to express yourself... create a store with my kind of style.” – Jacob, (14:10)
• “I dressed up for y’all today. I do look homeless most of the time.” – John Reed, (14:45)
• “I think… the single thing that separates a boy from a man, the thing you’ve got to realize… is self control.” – John Luke, (51:22)
• “A lot of people want eulogy virtues but put all their effort into résumé virtues.” — Jacob, (52:41)
• “When you truly... surrender to Christ... humility [follows], and out of humility you see self-control, you see, seek peace and pursue it.” — Christian, (54:07)
• “He thinks he’s King David. He’s actually Uncle Rico.” — John Luke, about Uncle Si (39:18)
• “Who would you guess the five most famous people to ever live are… Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Moses, and King David.” – Christian, (36:26)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:29–02:14] – Awkward intros, "who's the host," and five kids jokes
• [04:38–05:26] – Summer travels: Myrtle Beach and leading worship
• [05:26–10:34] – John Reed’s building, the (in)famous Speakeasy, and store stories
• [12:19–14:33] – Jacob’s store: first year lessons, expressing personal style
• [14:33–16:27] – John Reed’s “homeless chic” style choices and group joking
• [19:20–22:02] – Christian’s AI haircut experiment & selfie humor
• [24:41–25:59] – Christian's speaking events, new devotional project
• [27:38–31:08] – Knife collaboration theme & King David’s complexity
• [31:20–35:38] – House of David show, biblical history, and "fame"
• [38:04–39:18] – David’s sling, Uncle Si as “Uncle Rico”
• [41:27–44:46] – John Luke’s animal tales from summer camp
• [46:37–48:51] – Hunting trip planning for “the bros”
• [50:02–54:07] – Bible verse and discussion on masculinity, humility, and peace

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Tone & Energy

The episode stands out for its easygoing, joke-heavy, brotherly banter—plenty of ribbing, with insight and vulnerability woven in. There’s a strong sense of authenticity, with each brother-in-law bringing their unique quirks, from John Reed’s fashion admissions to John Luke’s animal-wrangling, to Christian’s deep dives into faith and AI misadventures. The ending focuses on encouragement, self-improvement, and faith, layered with practical and spiritual advice.

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Final Takeaways

• Running a family business, raising a big family, and investing in personal projects are all front and center for the next wave of Robertsons.
• Faith, humility, and self-control underpin the Duck Bros’ take on manhood.
• The group bridges lighthearted storytelling with honest discussions about success, failures, and the messiness of growing up Robertson.
• Audience engagement is encouraged—a new hunting trip may be planned based on listener suggestions!
• The "Duck Bros" remix of Duck Call Room delivers the family warmth, wit, and wisdom fans expect, with a new generational spin.

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Transcript

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[Bobby]

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[Jacob]

See terms foreign. What's up? It's Jacob here. I'm here with John Reed, Will Christian, and John Luke. This is not the normal crew on here. None of us do this podcast, you know, every week.

[Christian]

Yeah. Are you our host today?

[Jacob]

I'm just intro. And I wouldn't say I'm the host.

[Christian]

Okay. Thank you.

[Jacob]

You're welcome.

[John Luke]

Are you the host?

[John Reed]

I don't know. Well, they're desperate because they have me on here now, so.

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Is this your. This isn't your first podcast, Is it ever?

[John Reed]

I'm talking about ever f. First podcast ever?

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Like, I don't know. I'm asking.

[John Reed]

I have no clue. I don't really know. Yes, I've ever been on. I don't know. I was on one a long time ago about records one time.

[Jacob]

What, in like 2008?

[John Reed]

Something like that.

[Christian]

Whenever they first started podcasts weren't out in 2008 or.

[John Reed]

No, not 2008.

[Jacob]

Very lost memory lost.

[Christian]

We did. We did pay you $1 to be here, so.

[John Luke]

Yeah, we're thankful you guys are getting paid.

[Christian]

You had a low rate than.

[Jacob]

Dude, we're paying you 75% of the hour because that's all it'll be.

[John Luke]

I'm usually just on the holiday episode, so, yeah, I'm glad to be on. Just a regular.

[Jacob]

Hey, you're a premium extra for the podcast. You know, they bring.

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Christian]

This is like a post fourth podcast.

[John Luke]

They're always texting me when the guests like quit and they're like, we got to get someone in here. We. John Luke would get in here. What are you doing?

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's fair.

[John Luke]

They just think it's because I don't have anything going on, so.

[Jacob]

Yeah. Like you don't have five kids or something.

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

That's crazy.

[Christian]

Speaking of five kids. Congrats. Five kids.

[Bobby]

Wow.

[John Luke]

Five kids.

[Christian]

Yeah. How's that been five kids?

[John Reed]

Yeah. How is that?

[Christian]

We keep saying five kids.

[John Luke]

Are we like really entering, like a podcast? But I feel like we're like, this

[John Reed]

is like, I've got three kids. You got five kids? Dude, I've got five.

[John Luke]

No, tell me about that.

[Jacob]

What is five minus three?

[Christian]

Two.

[John Luke]

Okay, well, I've been at camp these last nine weeks.

[Jacob]

So you're an absent father?

[John Luke]

Yeah, I've barely been home. I've had the older three at camp every day, but most days Mary Kate's got their twins.

[Jacob]

Does your kids go to camp?

[Christian]

Yeah, they've been a couple times.

[Jacob]

Your kids go to camp?

[John Reed]

Do you, do you drive like a limousine or something? Like, how do you fit five kids in a car?

[John Luke]

No, see that, that's the thing.

[Christian]

You know what he drives?

[John Reed]

I don't know what he drives. What do you, what do you drive?

[Jacob]

I don't know what you drive or this brother in law has amnesia. Like, I don't know what's wrong.

[John Reed]

What do you drive? A Suburban.

[Christian]

I can't tell.

[John Luke]

He's never been on the podcast. He doesn't know what I drive.

[Christian]

Do you know if you're curious or

[Jacob]

know anything about us.

[John Reed]

Suburban.

[Jacob]

Suburban. Are you crazy?

[John Reed]

Do you drive a Suburban? Is that what you go?

[John Luke]

Yeah, you got. Mary drives, you got.

[Jacob]

Hey, what's your license plate number?

[John Luke]

What's your wife's name?

[John Reed]

Wait, wait, what?

[Christian]

Can't wait. You said you've been at a camp the last weeks?

[John Reed]

Yeah, sorry. I don't know what you drive, but you drive a big vehicle with five kids.

[John Luke]

It is, but there's five seats and there's five kids and they all fit. But I think that's where. When you've got six kids, six. You can probably still fit in a normal car, but you have to get like a special car for your children. That's when you've reached like another level of.

[Christian]

I don't, I don't think you can have a category in a normal car.

[John Luke]

Yeah, if you got like three, if

[Jacob]

one's already three, if you cut your wife out and there's one old enough to ride front seat, you can.

[John Luke]

If you don't have a middle, if you have a middle seat.

[Jacob]

If you cut your wife out of the car, you know, she drives separate, you can fit six. Like if your kid's old enough to ride in the front seat, then theoretically you can't. If you had one more like, no one's old enough to ride the front seat.

[John Luke]

Yeah, well, we don't have a middle seat in the Middle. Some cars have middle seats in the middle, so you can fit six. Yeah, the bucket seat.

[Jacob]

So what's going on? Yalls lives. What are you up to? Like, we're not filming the show right now, so what are you all doing?

[John Reed]

Well, we're.

[Jacob]

We're just hanging out right now.

[Christian]

I mean, I have a lot of Ella worship.

[Jacob]

Stuff happen the past several months, has been just traveling, going pretty much all over the country. What's the last place y' all went?

[John Reed]

Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

[John Luke]

Dirty Myrtle.

[Christian]

Dirty, dirty Myrtle.

[Jacob]

It was actually awesome.

[Christian]

It was really, really cool. Yeah, we were at a. A student life camp. So it was just like, a bunch of churches come together for, like, beach camp pretty much. And we led worship all week, and it was dope.

[Jacob]

That's cool.

[John Reed]

We were expecting.

[Christian]

Abby was expecting to go and lay out on the beach every single day after we led in the morning.

[Jacob]

But once we took a look at the beach, it was sad.

[John Reed]

It ain't those Gulf coast beaches.

[John Luke]

No, no, Ain't no Gulf Shores.

[Jacob]

Ain't no Gulf Shores. Ain't no Galveston, Texas.

[Christian]

Ain't no Grand Dial.

[Jacob]

Yeah. But. Yeah, other than that, man, we're. We're just hanging out, doing music. Hanging out. That's cool.

[Christian]

We're just living la. John Reed, tell us about your store and your speakeasy. Your bar.

[Jacob]

Why you have to say it like that?

[John Reed]

Your bar.

[Jacob]

Yeah, well, tell us about your liquor sales and your speakeasy, man.

[Christian]

He just got his liquor license.

[John Reed]

I'm working on getting it right now. So what? The store.

[Jacob]

Just tell us about it.

[John Luke]

Like.

[John Reed]

Well, I mean, Rebecca was just. Honestly, I think she.

[Jacob]

But this is from your perspective.

[John Reed]

Yeah, Your.

[Bobby]

Your.

[Jacob]

We weren't on valuable.

[John Luke]

Y'.

[Bobby]

All.

[John Luke]

Y' all have been building this bill, renovating this building for ever.

[Jacob]

What's the year, actually?

[Christian]

How long you remember since you last did it?

[John Reed]

I can. I bought the building in 2018.

[Jacob]

Okay. Okay.

[John Reed]

I demolished it myself inside. Did all the demolition myself in a year and a half during, after I bought it. Then it sat there for a while, and then I was super busy in the moving industry. Yeah. And I got to the building and started building it out, I guess. And then Rebecca store is super funky and cool.

[Jacob]

Is that always the dream was, like, her store in there or, like, did you have a different idea for it?

[John Reed]

One space? Yeah. She always wanted another store.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[John Reed]

So we did that, and now it's going, and it's pretty funky and cool. You were in there the other day. Yeah.

[Christian]

No, it's epic.

[Jacob]

It's Pretty cool.

[John Luke]

This has been, like, the ongoing thing that we thought would never actually happen. Yeah. It finally did.

[John Reed]

Well, the thing is, like, I was so busy the past decade with moving with that company, you know, building it and. And everything, that maybe the last year and a half, I've really been able to, like, full throttle and get everything finished.

[Christian]

Building it, scaling it, selling it, you know?

[John Reed]

Yeah. The whole shebang. Yeah. Are you talking about the building? You want to buy it?

[Jacob]

Can, like, anyone go in your speakeasy or. Like, how does that work?

[John Reed]

Yeah, well, the back's a whole nother thing. I was like, my office. I didn't anticipate that to be anything. And then people started poking their heads back in there, and they were like, dude, this is like, super cool. You need to do this, or something needs to happen here. It's like, really? It's just the bathrooms for me and Rebecca right in my office upstairs. Yeah, but it's super funky. It's cool, you know? I mean, it's super cool. Yeah.

[John Luke]

Like, it's actually to get in, like,

[Jacob]

if I came in your store and I don't know, you, like, you know.

[Christian]

No, he said if you wink at him, he'll. He'll take you.

[John Luke]

It's like a pass. Give you, like, situation.

[Jacob]

Okay. No, it's really cool. Honestly. It's cool because, like, I feel like you really get to see someone's personality through, like, a space and how they express themselves.

[John Reed]

Me and Rebecca, you're seeing it, like. Yeah.

[Jacob]

You see your house and stuff and, you know. But seeing that, like, I saw it.

[Christian]

You walk in, you feel like you're on a movie set.

[Jacob]

No, it is.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[John Reed]

Your dad, you said your dad's gonna, like.

[Christian]

He's gonna love it.

[John Reed]

He loves.

[Jacob]

The bathroom's super. I was using it the other day, and I was just staring at all the kind of.

[John Reed]

The ducks.

[Jacob]

Yeah, it's so like, every square inch.

[Christian]

Number one or two.

[John Reed]

Yeah, number two.

[Jacob]

Definitely has a better view, for sure.

[John Reed]

It does, it does. It's kind of PG and out, I guess, a little bit. But as for the back, I mean. Yeah. I mean, I didn't really have a business plan for it.

[Jacob]

I guess it's just more cool space.

[John Reed]

Exactly.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[John Reed]

Like a creative space. But now it's turned into something a completely different. So now. Yes. I'm working on. I've made the menu for it.

[Jacob]

Oh, you're going to do.

[John Reed]

Yeah, it's a mocktail. Yeah, mocktail. No. No food yet. I don't want to deal.

[Jacob]

So you got Your liquor license to make mocktails.

[John Reed]

No, mocktails and cocktails, which honestly, I didn't have to do that. But a few people, including, like, my father, they're like, it'd be smarter if you did that. Sure. So I did that.

[Jacob]

A hard process. I mean, I don't know.

[Bobby]

I have no clue.

[John Reed]

Just make the same drink.

[Jacob]

You have to like alcohol.

[John Reed]

$500 a year.

[John Luke]

I think he needs to get.

[John Reed]

It's like 500 a year. And you have to keep up with it every.

[Jacob]

You have to go like to where you get your business license for a store.

[John Reed]

Like, no. They have to say yes or no in your parish. And then you go to the state and then you pay the $500 and then you just keep up with it every day.

[Jacob]

Yeah, you gotta pay for it every year.

[John Reed]

But then everybody that works there, which I just had a meeting with a couple people that are going to work for me or work with me. Hate saying working for me. We have to. We have to all get. I don't like that dude. I'm not. Not like a boss type. More like a. Whatever. More like a. A leader. He's a part coworker and colleague type. Colleague leader kind of person.

[Jacob]

Submissive man.

[John Reed]

But the thing is that you all have to have some kind of like, thing like

[John Luke]

trained.

[Jacob]

You have to be trained.

[John Reed]

Yeah, exactly. Whatever it's called.

[Jacob]

The L. You have to go get certified.

[John Reed]

Exactly.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I figured.

[John Reed]

And that's it.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's cool.

[John Reed]

Yeah. And it'll be open maybe in the fall. I hope so. Yeah, we're finishing, actually. I was up there. I kind of look like a hobo right now, which I usually do all the time. Yeah, but I was up there working this morning. We're getting the. The alleyway finished. And that'll be the entrance.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's cool. Oh, yalls hours are what, Friday, Saturday, 10 to 6.

[John Reed]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Rebecca, 12 to 6.

[John Reed]

Yeah. The summer hours for the store, Rebecca, store, our store are four. Thursday, Friday and Saturdays, 12 to 6.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[John Reed]

They'll change in the fall. You know, it'll be full week, you know, and then for. I won't really say anything about the speakeasy because it's not ready yet.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's cool.

[John Luke]

But look, if you're gonna speak easy about the speakeasy.

[Jacob]

Yeah, for sure. But if you're in town, go see their store. It's on Desier Street. Thursday to Saturday, 12 to 6, right? Yeah, that's cool,

[Bobby]

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[John Luke]

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[Jacob]

Christian, what you got going?

[John Luke]

Wait, Jacob, let's go back to you. Talk about your store.

[Jacob]

What?

[John Reed]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

What about you?

[John Luke]

Yeah. You're still there? Yeah. How long have you had it now?

[Jacob]

I guess. Was it July? A year and two months.

[John Luke]

That's what you just did? A year? What have you? Like, it's cool seeing how it hasn't changed, I mean that much, but seeing just kind of how you've added new stuff like over the past, like months too.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[John Luke]

What do you feel like you've learned over this past year? Like starting it now you're a year into it.

[Jacob]

I'd say like the biggest thing I've learned is like really running the staff, like having a staff of people. Because like now, which I don't know if people know this, but I started working at Duck Commander, like Three months ago. So now it's like, really hands off on, like, the day to day employee stuff. So, like, learning how to, you know, give a plan and have other people execute it without delegate not being there and like, delegating the options and then working when no one's there. So, like, getting all the stuff to price and put in the store and like, figuring out, you know, what's selling best and like, going down that route because, like, online's totally different than in store. So, yeah, like, a whole different clientele. Like, people, if you. Depending on where you're at in store, like, people could have a way broader, you know, view of vintage. Like, a lot more outlets, a lot more genres of things, or they could have more narrow. And so I've just, like, learned, like, price points that sell better in store. Like, what's selling better? Is it more T shirts? Is it pants? Is it hats? Is it jackets? Seasonal. And then, like, also, like, same thing, decorating your space and like, creating, like, the feel that you want in a store. Which is super fun because I like having a store. Obviously, if money doesn't, like, if it's profitable and makes sense to have a store, great. If it doesn't. But since it has been, you know, successful in a sense, it's fun to just express myself in that way and like, create a store with, like, my kind of style. Because I would say, like, if you go in Rebecca's store, it's really cool and it's awesome. But I wouldn't say necessarily, like, that's my style at all. But it's cool to, like, get to express in that way and, like, make people feel a certain way coming in your store and, like, having a style that people can either, like or appreciate or just, like, see your creativity through your brain kind of situation.

[Christian]

Would you say John Reed's outfit right now is vintage?

[Jacob]

No, but it's John Reed. Like, Mr. Bean. John Reed's outfit is John Reed to me. Like, I feel comfortable when I see him. That's what he wears. It's not like, crazy.

[John Reed]

I dressed up for y' all today.

[Jacob]

I feel like you've really leaned into, like, homelessness is the only way I can say this.

[John Luke]

No, no, no, no.

[Jacob]

I feel like lately I could be telling you that was so quick.

[John Reed]

I do look homeless most of the time.

[Jacob]

I feel like you really leaned into, like, this is gonna sound weird, but, like, like, self manipulating your shirts recently into, like, cutting them all the same, like, how you like.

[John Reed]

It's freaking 100 degrees outside. Yeah, it's liberating not having your armpits and everything covered in stuff.

[Christian]

Honestly, you. You'll wear that in the winter with

[John Reed]

a jacket over it. Yeah, I get hot easy, man. You don't you?

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Aren't you hot headed?

[Christian]

I'm hot blooded.

[John Reed]

Like I run hot. Like I'm hot all the time. I feel like.

[Christian]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Luke]

That's the opposite of me.

[John Reed]

Well, you're wearing a.

[John Luke]

Meanwhile, I'm freezing in here.

[Jacob]

Yeah, John, that's the perks of having kids. You just have blankets in your car.

[John Luke]

This is, this. No, this is my office blanket. Just for these podcasts. So cold in here. And when I'm sitting in my office, I've got my blanket. Yeah. Hand knitted. No, but John Reed, that's what, that's what I think is really cool. And the compliment Jacob's giving you right now in how that, how you really customize like your stuff and your space.

[Jacob]

That's what I'm saying.

[John Luke]

That's not something like I do as much, which I think is cool. And it's cool seeing both of y' all stores and buildings and places on the same street because it is like such an expression of yourselves and your interests and like what you're selling and your clients and like all the things, which is so different, but it's, it's in the same literally, you know?

[Christian]

Yeah, yeah. If you walk in the store, you would definitely know it was John Reed's.

[John Reed]

Well, the cool thing is like a little history too. I did it for people in New York for a decade and now I'm doing it for myself. So whenever I would go start these things, like these little bars or these like restaurants and stuff, we'd go in and it's like trend setting is what it is at that point. Teens or twenties, I don't have any money. So you're going with these people with a lot of money that have maybe a vision, but they don't. And they get people that are younger, like a group of got people to make it look cool. So you'll set the trend, as they say. But they're the money people.

[Jacob]

Sure.

[John Reed]

So later on, you know, fast forward two decades later, it's always in the back of my head, I was like, dude, I want to do something cool like I used to do for people.

[Christian]

You know, you get to the point, you're like, I'm the money guy.

[John Reed]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Yeah, I don't know about that.

[John Reed]

But, but, but I do have still the thought of it. And I was like, man, I just want to make it cool. So I made it cool. My office, right? And then people started coming in and they're like, dude, can you please open this? So that's. I didn't want to make a business plan, so there's no business plan, but it'll eventually be a business plan.

[Jacob]

It's kind of like, this is like a work of love. And then it kind of turned into like blue molds. And I'm like, you did it for yourself. And then it. You made it for yourself. No matter if someone appreciated it or not. And people saw it and it's cool. Like, they have appreciation in the same that they want to work with, you know.

[Christian]

You know the podcast How I Built this? I would love J to be on

[John Luke]

How I Built this.

[John Reed]

I could, I could do one.

[John Luke]

It's a 10 year time lapse and just.

[John Reed]

Well, that. The back office, though, took me two and a half years.

[John Luke]

Geez.

[John Reed]

Yeah, two and a half years. But I mean, again, I'm constantly doing other things and that's what I had. That's why, you know, if I don't. That's all I had. I could make it happen, you know, in a six months and to cut

[Jacob]

back to this real quick just so I can finish my thought for this. Like, John Reed's saying that he cuts his shirts. Like, his shirt, it fits him and it's cool. But like, I could never, like, I would never do that. I couldn't wear it. Like, I don't think I could pull that off. You know what I'm saying?

[Christian]

I couldn't.

[Jacob]

Like, you cut your collars. Like, I like how you cut your collars short like that.

[John Reed]

I don't like stuff.

[Jacob]

Yeah, but like, you still have the lining I see in there to keep

[John Reed]

it sturdy so it won't fray. Yeah, exactly.

[Jacob]

But like, it. I like it. It's cool.

[Christian]

If I showed up in a tank top, what would you say?

[Jacob]

Oh, it's flaming you if you do.

[John Reed]

It has to be like a Gold's Gym.

[Jacob]

Like, like, you know, I almost started this podcast.

[John Reed]

Yeah, you got to wear a muscle.

[Christian]

If I were a muscle, you would flame me.

[Jacob]

All right, look, I wouldn't.

[John Reed]

I'd be like, dude, that's freaking awesome. This is 19, like,'70s Gold's Gym.

[Jacob]

I politely asked Will and John Reed, you know, what's going on? You know, you know, we kind of talked a little about John Luke. We'll get to him. Y' all know what he's doing? Somewhat. But I was gonna ask you, so give us the walkthrough of this frosted tips haircut you were trying to get. And you know what happened there?

[Christian]

Well, so frosting them tips, boy.

[Jacob]

Christian, you just got your haircut when?

[Christian]

Two days ago. From, from when we're recording this. I. So I chat GPT a picture of myself.

[Jacob]

This is very.

[Christian]

And compared it to Thor Odinson.

[Jacob]

I wish we could throw it on the screen. His chat GPT of this. He showed me it yesterday.

[Christian]

Well, I guess we probably could. I. No. So I took a.

[Jacob]

Why did you do this?

[Christian]

So here's what happened.

[Jacob]

You want to break it down? That's.

[Christian]

You want to know the truth?

[Jacob]

I want to know.

[Christian]

I had a picture of my long hair. I took a selfie when I had my long hair with my beard. And then I posted.

[Jacob]

Personal or for someone else?

[Christian]

No, like, just I took a selfie at the beach.

[Jacob]

All right.

[Christian]

And then I found a picture of myself when I had short hair, like, four years ago.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Christian]

So I said, I went to chatgpt and I said, put, like, like put the short haircut on the guy with the beard. And it made the image and it somehow, through Chad GPT like, it, like, bleached my hair. It, like, made it way more blonde.

[John Luke]

Did your tips.

[John Reed]

Can you please show me a picture of that?

[Christian]

Yeah, I will. Yeah, it's. Yeah, I can. I'll pull it.

[Jacob]

Send it in our group message.

[Christian]

Okay. Here. Okay, so I'll show you.

[Jacob]

Send it in the group message, and I'll show John Reed.

[Christian]

And I was like, this doesn't have a phone.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I just meant really, My phone is on hand. No, I know.

[Christian]

I was like, this would. Well, hold on. I don't. We don't have.

[Jacob]

It wasn't a bird of Bobby. It was more.

[John Reed]

It was a burn to me.

[Christian]

Cool.

[Jacob]

That's why he didn't get his building done in 10 years. He didn't have a phone.

[John Reed]

Here, let me show you my phone.

[Christian]

So this, this, I, I literally just copy and pasted this image.

[John Reed]

I like that you put so much effort into this.

[Christian]

No, it was literally no effort. I was like, I posted two pictures to chat GPT and I made this.

[Jacob]

I don't even have chat.

[John Reed]

I don't even know what it is.

[Christian]

You know what chat GPT is?

[John Luke]

You forgot AI.

[John Reed]

It's AI.

[Jacob]

The title. The title of this podcast is John Reed, Rebecca's husband, knows nothing thing of what this is.

[John Reed]

I, I, I really don't.

[Bobby]

What is real? What is fake?

[John Luke]

He's like, we're a podcast.

[Jacob]

What is podcast?

[Christian]

Who's Mr. Bean? I don't. So this is.

[John Luke]

Look.

[Christian]

So here's what happened.

[John Reed]

That's him.

[Jacob]

Look.

[John Reed]

How many pictures did you take?

[Jacob]

This is the AI photo.

[John Luke]

Okay.

[Christian]

Yeah, that looks cool. Looks cool.

[John Luke]

Yeah, it does look great.

[John Reed]

It.

[Jacob]

It looks cool.

[Christian]

Long story short, I just wanted to cut it short and I had bleached it. Well, not Nepal. I put sun bum stuff in it on our last beach trip.

[John Reed]

Sun bomb.

[Christian]

And it turned my hair orange.

[Jacob]

Oh, dude.

[Christian]

So I was needing to dye it anyway.

[Jacob]

Ever seen a kid that shopped at hot topic at 12? That's what Christian's hair looked like.

[Bobby]

You know what I've noticed, fella?

[Jacob]

What?

[Bobby]

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[Christian]

And Alicia's taking women's balance.

[Bobby]

There you go. Look. Christine's on it.

[Jacob]

Took care of it.

[Bobby]

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[Christian]

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[Bobby]

That's neutrophone.com promo code.

[Jacob]

Well, other than that weird stuff, what else you got going on?

[John Reed]

You look real cute right now.

[John Luke]

Your hair looks good.

[Jacob]

Your hair does look good, but that's a crazy.

[Christian]

I actually was going for the. For the Thor Ragnarok look. Thank you.

[Jacob]

Will I. Chubby version. Yeah, that's exactly.

[Christian]

I'll show you a selfie I took yesterday oh, God.

[Jacob]

So he. This. This our brother in law. This is the selfie king of our brother in law, I guess.

[John Reed]

Are you shirtless in this stuff here?

[Jacob]

Are these mirror pics or what are you talking about here?

[John Reed]

No, I'll.

[Christian]

I'll show it to John Luke.

[Jacob]

Can you type in your camera roll right now and look up selfies? I want to see how many. How many units you have the phone?

[John Luke]

Yes.

[Christian]

He spent his entire afternoon.

[Jacob]

Yeah, he spends 2.99amonth for more storage on Apple.

[John Reed]

Dude.

[Jacob]

It's like, for selfies after.

[John Reed]

It's like 25.3gigabytes of just selfies on.

[John Luke]

He has reference photos for his haircut.

[Jacob]

He bought a terabyte storage. Just selfies, normal thing.

[Christian]

Thank you, John Luke, but no, man parenting. Been podcasting a lot. Me and John Luke are on Unashamed on Fridays. I've been on Whoa, that's good. Sadie's podcast a lot. I just finished writing a devotional about the life of David Sick, so I'm trying to get that published right now. And then I've been doing a couple speaking events in different places.

[Jacob]

So have you done them or you're about.

[Christian]

I did. I've done two the last two months, and then I'm flying to Montana in a couple weeks to do another one.

[Jacob]

What have you been talking about? Is this like a panel or you're like straight up speaking? So, like straight speaking solo. Dude, I need to see this. I haven't seen this.

[Christian]

I spoke at a you thing in Ruston couple weeks ago or about, like a month ago.

[John Luke]

You spoke at Camp Gioka?

[Christian]

Oh, yeah, that's what I was. I spoke about David then. And then I spoke about Ephesians, Ephesians 2 at Camp Chioka. And then I'm going to talk about

[John Luke]

David again in Montana after his camp yoga speech. We had kids fall. Two kids got baptized. One kid passed out in the spirit. And really, it was actually dehydration, but.

[Jacob]

Oh, he.

[John Luke]

It was good.

[Jacob]

I mean, I was like, okay, this is fired up.

[John Luke]

Two kids, they get baptized after.

[Jacob]

That's awesome.

[Christian]

You got baptized after.

[John Luke]

There's a whole prayer circles.

[Christian]

Everyone had a hospital visit.

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Christian]

And there was a lot of weeping. I was. I was. It was.

[John Luke]

You really brought.

[Jacob]

That means the Holy Spirit was working through you.

[John Luke]

It was awesome. It was like at campfire. I was like, late, late. It was awesome.

[John Reed]

Teach them about selfies.

[Christian]

About selfies, please.

[John Luke]

Did you bring.

[Jacob]

Did you show them your. Your knife? Collaboration.

[John Luke]

That's what I was about to say. And you got your oh yeah. Collaboration.

[Christian]

Thank you.

[Jacob]

You're welcome. You're welcome.

[Christian]

And I just. I just had a knife. Collaboration come out with the company.

[Jacob]

Don't ask. He won't get you one. I wanted one.

[John Reed]

Have it on you right now?

[Christian]

No, I don't have it on me right now.

[Jacob]

I wanted to see it.

[John Luke]

I. I asked him too if I could have one.

[Christian]

I'm working.

[Jacob]

You wouldn't help me out. Hey, who's this company?

[Christian]

Hey D. I'm working on getting a discount.

[Jacob]

Dawson, please help us. Your brother in laws.

[John Reed]

Who is it? What company is it?

[Christian]

It's called Dawson Knives.

[Jacob]

The knife is sick.

[Christian]

Have you not seen anything about it?

[Jacob]

It's a sick looking knife.

[John Luke]

Not.

[Christian]

He doesn't know it. He doesn't own a phone.

[Jacob]

He has a Motorola razor still. So.

[Christian]

But I feel like there's a lot of little things like that that I'm doing that I can't.

[Jacob]

That's fine. But the knife came.

[Christian]

The knife thing. Yeah.

[Jacob]

You know, you should do. If you're speaking on King David, you should like incorporate your knife. Not just. It'd be cool if you like pull it out your knife.

[Christian]

You know the website, it's all the knife.

[Jacob]

This is my knife.

[Christian]

Well, the is like the whole, the whole line is about King David.

[John Luke]

So the knife is called.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's what I was saying. That's.

[Christian]

It's all about David's life.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's.

[Christian]

Yeah, it's all about to the.

[John Luke]

The.

[Christian]

The.

[Jacob]

Sorry, what Are you burping or farting?

[John Reed]

Is he burping or burp right in his face?

[Christian]

No. So, yeah, so the knife was. I, I wanted to do something to kind of honor King David and, and how much impact his life's had on me the last year. Then I wanted to do something tying in Honey's name to it. So one of the handles, it's called sandstone and it has more of like a honey looking color to it.

[Jacob]

Oh, that's cool.

[Christian]

Paying tribute to Honey too. So.

[Jacob]

So have you talked about that on the other podcast?

[Christian]

No, I haven't.

[Jacob]

About the impact of King David on sort of kinda. I give us the short of the short of the long.

[Christian]

The short of the long is. I think there's something about David's life for me that, that saw how David handled suffering and I think there's something about David's life to where he's the only king that, that God ever chose and yet he suffered more than almost anyone in the Bible. And you talk about.

[Jacob]

I'm just breaking this.

[Christian]

But just his Whole life. I mean, his father in law tried to kill him for 13 years as he's running in the wilderness.

[Jacob]

Didn't God, I guess, Samuel. But God chose Saul, right?

[Christian]

Yes, but then they, it's, but then they also like cast lots and, but, but God like, you know, obviously told Samuel, you know, I've, I've found another. And just the idea about David being a man after God's own heart, right? Then if you look at the New Testament, when Paul's writing, he's, you know, God says, here's, here's David, who will do, you know, all that I ask of him. And at that time of his life, David's a teenager in the wilderness, you know, shepherding sheep. And I think there's something about David's life and there's also through the TV show the House of David, I think that created something of. I've never had someone in the Bible that I've, I've thought, I've thought about more like theoretically than David. Like the idea of David getting up in the morning and bringing bread and cheese to his brothers on the battlefield. And the idea of like as he's leaving his house to go bring cheese to his brothers, he's going to go fight a giant and become the most famous person in Israel in a, at, in, in one moment in time. But then he can't relate to anybody about what he's going through because he's anointed king, but yet he's the most famous person as a teenager. So there's so much complexity to his life. And then he's playing music for Saul in the temple and Saul's probably venting to him about Samuel anointing someone else. And then Saul tries to kill him. But then David's still faithful to God and he doesn't kill Saul when he has, you know, multiple opportunities to. So I think there's, there's so much complexity to his life that I just, I'm still trying to kind of unpack of, of like how like his, his whole character arc to me is just so fascinating. But something about the way he handled suffering and then if you read the Psalms and just the fearlessness he had. I think it's something that I've wanted to cling to this last year of going through a lot of traumatic things with my family. It's like, how did David handle the suffering? And how, I mean, in Psalms 3 he says, you know, though 10,000 surround me, I won't be afraid. And just that idea of he was such a warrior that he was so poet and musical, you know, musical. So he had such a sensitivity to him. But he also would go kill 200 Philistines and take their foreskins for Saul. So, like, he's such a. Like, it's just so. It's so complex to me. But just that idea about his. How fearless he was in. In certain situations, to me, it's what's. What really stood out.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Christian]

But the beginning of his life about moving, stepping into fame, being faithful, about what God's called him to do, not taking matters into his own hands, having discernment, but also, like, just how fearless he was.

[Jacob]

Because wasn't David born, like, all of his brothers? They didn't have the same mom. Like, yeah, people.

[Christian]

People debate that.

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Christian]

I think that's. I think that's part of his story about why that happened.

[Jacob]

Another thing I wanted to say based off of that. That's great. That had an impact on you, like, that is that we went to the Caleb Wars. Sadie, you know, did the host of that. The thing I watched the King of David. Did y' all watch that TV show? Have y' all watched it at all? Have you watched it? I haven't watched it at all. Oh, it's House of David. Have you watched it at all?

[John Luke]

I've only seen the first season.

[Jacob]

Season two. Okay, so it's good.

[Christian]

I've heard that.

[John Reed]

It's a cartoon.

[Jacob]

No, no, no.

[Christian]

For season three.

[Jacob]

It's kind of like the same chosen vibe.

[Christian]

Yeah, yeah, it's the same.

[Jacob]

It's from the same people. I say it to say, I guess y' all haven't seen it, but who, if you have seen it? David in the TV show. I binge watched it in, like, four days, but he sings in the Deal, and it's like. It's fire. Like, it's so good. And I was like.

[Christian]

I asked.

[Jacob]

No, he does, dude.

[John Luke]

The actor.

[Christian]

The actor did a little bit, like, on, like, Caleb Knight.

[Jacob]

That's what I was saying. He's saying at Caleb, and I'm like, dude, he's. He's got it. Like, it's really him. And I thought that was super cool. So it's, like, very beautiful music.

[Christian]

That's why the show's so cool, because it, like, the.

[John Reed]

It'll.

[Christian]

It'll be David in battle, like, defeating all these people. And then the scene transitions to, like, him on top of the temple, like, worshiping.

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Christian]

And, like, people in the city are, like, listening to him worship.

[Jacob]

He's, like, playing a little harp. It's just so it's just this.

[Christian]

That's what I'm saying. That's just the complexity of like how he's so fearless in battle, can do all these things, but then he's also so emotionally. Emotionally so. It's just so fascinating.

[Bobby]

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[Christian]

Well, you gotta watch it.

[Jacob]

You gotta watch it.

[John Luke]

You would like it.

[John Reed]

It's just like I watched the cartoon. Isn't there a cartoon?

[Christian]

Yeah, they made a movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched it.

[Jacob]

But the TV show, The TV show is really good. It's cool.

[John Reed]

Christ though, like.

[Jacob]

No, like the Chosen. Have you seen that either? It's just a more modern. It's like a modern.

[John Reed]

Not modern, like, like a brutal, like passionate Christ style type movie.

[Christian]

Like it gets midway.

[Jacob]

Yeah, it gets brutal. But like I'm just, I'm kind of trying to relate it to something. Not like Mel Gibson type.

[Christian]

No, it's. It's like the Chosen. If you haven't.

[Jacob]

I mean, yeah, if you haven't seen the. All I'm saying is modern film. So like it's very high quality shot and it's like, it just gives you like a first person point of view of like what it was like back then, you know, I just like you can like see yourself there.

[John Reed]

It's like the Bible, but shot like the Revenant, the movie. Like that.

[Jacob]

I mean, what are these movies, references other than Passion of Christ? What are we talking about?

[Christian]

I'm just like, Hacksaw Ridge.

[John Reed]

I mean, it's like saying, like, the way the visual. I'm being artistic right now, so the visual of the movie is like. You know how the Revenant's, like, kind of dark and, like, the way it's shot. Yeah, it's shot like that.

[Christian]

It is dark.

[John Reed]

But the Bible, like.

[John Luke]

Well, it's like. I mean, like a period piece.

[Jacob]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm just saying these shows, it's like, quality shot. It looks like they're in, you know, Israel, all the different types.

[Christian]

Yeah, they film it in Greece.

[Jacob]

Like, it's super.

[Christian]

But the show does not shy away from, like, some of the demonic stuff that. I mean, like, if. If.

[Jacob]

Like, what's the king.

[Christian]

The king that Saul did not slay, which is why he ended up getting the kingdom removed from him. They like, hardcore, like, it's like a tough scene to watch. They. They don't shy away from, like, how tormenting the spirit was that Saul had after he was disobedient. But it's. It's insane.

[Jacob]

Even if you weren't, like, religious of any sort, I think you could really, like, think it was a really good.

[Christian]

Well, yeah. King David's, like, people would do the

[Jacob]

same thing with the chosen, too.

[Christian]

People who aren't Christians or any part

[Jacob]

of any religion would say, like, this is a. It's intriguing.

[John Reed]

It's a great show.

[Jacob]

It's great.

[Christian]

Who would you guess the five most famous people to ever live are, like, names?

[John Reed]

Jesus.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Alexander the Great.

[Christian]

No.

[John Reed]

Genghis Khan.

[Jacob]

What? King Caesar.

[John Luke]

What?

[John Reed]

Genghis Khan?

[Christian]

It's Jesus, Muhammad, and then it's Buddha, Moses and King David.

[John Luke]

Okay.

[Jacob]

Oh, that's crazy. Is that a fact?

[John Reed]

More popular if you look it up.

[Jacob]

That's crazy.

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[John Luke]

Well, long.

[Christian]

He's like. He's like seven. Because then Genghis. It's like Genghis Khan.

[John Reed]

Genghis Khan's in there somewhere.

[Christian]

They're all top 10. How about that?

[Jacob]

Top 10.

[John Reed]

10.

[Christian]

But that's the thing about King David. It's like the Goliath moment for his life is what made him. I mean, obviously, I. I don't know if.

[John Reed]

Would you.

[Christian]

Would you think King David would be as famous as he was as he is today if he didn't kill Goliath?

[John Luke]

No.

[Christian]

You think that's.

[John Luke]

No, that's like the central. I mean, that's like The. His big story. Yeah.

[Jacob]

So I feel like he's the turning point of his whole life.

[Christian]

That's what I'm saying. That's what's so fascinating. It's like, here's this teenager bringing his brother's cheese and bread. He killed a giant.

[Jacob]

No one wants to fight him. Like, nobody's.

[Christian]

Like, they're turning away, like, 40 days and 40 nights. They're all terrified. He. He shows up and there's a verse in 1st Amos 17, it says. And David heard him. And I think. I just think that's so cool. It's like the Israelites.

[Jacob]

How old is he there, too?

[Christian]

Like, they say, like, people debate, like, 17.

[John Luke]

Like, 17.

[Jacob]

These are all, like, other people are like warriors that have killed people.

[John Reed]

Do y'. All. Do y' all watch the. There's a dude on Instagram. I'm on Instagram. He does the.

[Jacob]

This is for his PC.

[John Reed]

You watch that dude?

[Christian]

I've seen. Yeah, dude, the slingshot's crazy sling guy.

[John Reed]

And that's what.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's what.

[John Reed]

David killed, the gyro. So it's like you can't fathom that. But whenever you see somebody actually do it in real time, how accurate they are, that dude can hit somebody's head off their shoulders at like 50 or 60 yards. It's crazy.

[Christian]

Yeah, well, that's the thing, too. That's. That's. It's like God was preparing David in the wilderness to face Goliath. Because it's like if David would have neglected the time in the wilderness with the sheep, he would have never been able to face Goliath when he got there. So I think that's the whole lesson is like, what. What is God teaching you in the private moments that when he does elevate you, like, what can you step into? Because if you. If you're just looking for a platform, but yet you're not cultivating the private moments, then you're not going to be ready for any sort of elevation, which is why I think David's so cool.

[John Reed]

What's cool? You know how many. You know how much, like, he was practicing so much out there? I bet you.

[Jacob]

Well, just like protecting the sheep, you just think about that and, like, being by yourself in the wilderness. It's just him and the sheep. No telling what's out there. So it's like those are small moments, like your whole life, you know, he also.

[Christian]

He killed a lion and a bear.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Christian]

With his bare hands.

[John Luke]

Uncle side did tell me the other day that he doesn't need the Sling. He can throw rocks is the most crappy miles.

[Christian]

Three miles.

[John Luke]

Three miles. He's making throw a rock three miles.

[John Reed]

That sounds like Uncle Rico on What's that movie over these.

[Jacob]

Uncle Rico.

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

I don't know if that takes. Ever been there. Sa is our Uncle Rico.

[Christian]

He's. He's not our King David. He's a.

[Jacob]

He's our Uncle Rico.

[John Luke]

He thinks he's King David. He's actually Uncle Rico.

[Jacob]

He's Uncle Re. Uncle Rico with King David mindset.

[John Reed]

I can. I can throw this rocket three miles.

[Jacob]

Oh, yeah. I think he bases three miles. I think he did refer it to King David throwing a rock through the glass forehead. It's like, well, if he can do that, I mean, I can throw it three miles.

[John Reed]

Yeah. But he also still believes that there's like cheetahs in America, don't they? Or something like that?

[Jacob]

It changes day to day in that ongoing thing.

[John Reed]

He believes there's cheetahs.

[John Luke]

Black. Black Panther Black.

[John Reed]

There might be Black Panthers here. I don't know.

[John Luke]

You believe that?

[Jacob]

I mean, do you believe. I forgot John Reed is Jr. Uncle Rico.

[Christian]

He's RJ Rico Jr. Rico Jr.

[John Reed]

They call me instead of John Jr.

[Christian]

He's RJ.

[John Reed]

I don't know. I might. Black Panther.

[John Luke]

That is it. Well, yeah.

[Jacob]

Who.

[John Luke]

Who would be who in the duck call room right now? That's your s. You're sitting in this chair right now.

[Jacob]

I feel like Bobby would kill it on a computer, like, with references you John David. I'm saying I'm not mean it like you're. I just feel like you would be good on a computer and like, have a bunch of fun facts and like, keeping up with everything. I feel like you would have like, all the references, like trans and cultural.

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

What's going on right now?

[John Luke]

You'd be a good computer.

[Jacob]

There's not a Christian on the Duck call podcast. So I just think he's like, you

[Christian]

know, are you Martin? Are you. Are you.

[Jacob]

I don't know. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying I just think you're no challenging.

[Christian]

You're Godwin.

[Jacob]

I'm just like, yeah, sure.

[Christian]

And I don't think there's a. There's a John Licky.

[Jacob]

No, I don't either.

[Christian]

Maybe you're Stone.

[John Luke]

I'm the guest. Yeah, I'm Stone is crazy.

[John Reed]

Stone would not be wearing a.

[John Luke]

Stone would be wearing a. A hand.

[Jacob]

If we're saying it like that, I would say Godwin and Stone would be feel disrespected by Their references in the duck call room. Yeah, I think John David would like Will. Yeah, I would be like, heck yeah, brother.

[John Reed]

I need his. His thing, his headphone.

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Well, John Luke, you've been at camp all summer. I mean, any fun stories that. I mean, I know that's what's been taking up most of your life. Other than your twins and your five kids. Anything you can share?

[John Reed]

I've caught.

[John Luke]

Well, I'll say. I've caught a lot of animals this summer.

[Jacob]

Are you being bit by a snake?

[John Luke]

I got bit by a snake. I caught. Well, I caught.

[Jacob]

You called a little fawn Bambi.

[John Luke]

I caught a fawn, Yeah. A couple days ago. That was actually my yard.

[Jacob]

That was cool.

[John Luke]

It was following the. The mama deer, and the deer jumped the fence and it couldn't jump over the fence, so it's like running around the yard and chasing it. And I tried to catch it last week and I couldn't catch it. And this year, this week I caught it.

[Jacob]

That's cool.

[John Luke]

It was like bucking and kicking me and that just yeeted over the fence.

[Jacob]

You should have put a little collar on it, like a bail. So, you know, like, when it grows

[John Luke]

up, the mama was like, sitting on the other side of the fence, so it just, like, ran to it. So it might come back. If I catch it again, I'll put like a.

[Jacob]

Is that what is in that fence? Is that like a garden?

[John Luke]

What? What?

[Jacob]

You were in that. It looked like a gate, like a fence.

[John Luke]

That's like the fence on the side of my. Yeah, a barbed wire fence.

[Jacob]

Like, for some reason, I thought it was like a garden or something. That's why it got in there, like eating something and then it couldn't get out.

[John Luke]

And so you just like, between, like the. Like the woods. My yard is like a fence, but the deer come and jump over the fence every day.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's super cool.

[John Luke]

I caught it yesterday. I caught a bird.

[Jacob]

What kind of bird?

[John Luke]

It was like an injured baby bird. And I put on my shoulder and it wrote around my shoulder.

[Jacob]

Did you regurgitate its food so it could grow?

[John Luke]

Yeah, I chewed up some worms for it and spit it into his mouth.

[Jacob]

Hey, that's what I'm.

[John Luke]

And then once he got the strength back, I put in a tree in it. Oh, I figured it out.

[Jacob]

John Luke's not someone on the duck call room podcast. John Luke's are Steve Irwin.

[Christian]

Yes.

[John Reed]

I was thinking like, Ace Ventura or something.

[Jacob]

Ace Ventura.

[John Reed]

I think I'm more Ace Ventura.

[Christian]

When you want to be Steve Irwin, but you're.

[John Luke]

I want to be Steve Irwin. Bob, actually. Yeah.

[Jacob]

That's funny. Camp's been good. Have you. Didn't y' all have some camp counselors, like pass out or something?

[John Luke]

We had the night I spoke.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

The dehydration, was that a camp counselor?

[John Luke]

No, we did. We had another camp counselor who did also pass out from dehydration. Oh, shoot. Yeah.

[Jacob]

So if you're wondering how hot it is,

[Christian]

they need more cut off sleeves like John Reed.

[John Reed]

I'm telling you, let the them armpits breathe, boy.

[Jacob]

I just remember growing up at camp,

[Christian]

like, it like being hydrated is like

[Jacob]

the number one thing you have to do.

[Christian]

Like you have to be hydrated.

[John Luke]

The heat index the other day was like 107 out there.

[Jacob]

That's insane. I mean, you just walk outside, you got to get in the shower.

[Christian]

You know, you need like liquid IV packets, like on deck.

[John Luke]

Yeah, no, it is depressing.

[Jacob]

I literally walk outside.

[John Reed]

Everyone's just walking around with iv.

[Jacob]

Yeah, yeah. I just walk outside. I'm like, man, I'm gonna have to take a shower.

[John Reed]

Can't wait till fall soon.

[John Luke]

As soon as I walk outside, yeah, it's like, yeah, that's every day.

[Jacob]

But it's so far away. I feel like to being even like thinking about being cold.

[John Reed]

Really not too far. It goes quick if we get quick

[Jacob]

if we get lucky.

[Christian]

I prefer summer or winter.

[John Reed]

I prefer fall, winter and spring. I gave no summer.

[Christian]

I gave you two options.

[Jacob]

Fall is my favorite.

[Christian]

Oh, like, would you rather be hot or cold?

[John Reed]

Cold.

[Christian]

You would?

[John Luke]

I'd rather be hot.

[Bobby]

I'm already.

[John Luke]

I think that's what I'm saying. That's why I have a blanket right now. I'm just. I. I feel like I just am like a lizard. I just adjust to the temperature outside. Like it's got right after this. I'm gonna walk like, I'm gonna walk outside. I'm gonna like heat up in the sun. I'm gonna like sun bask on the

[John Reed]

cock and I'll be right next to

[John Luke]

you and I'll come in.

[John Reed]

Yeah, it's like take.

[Christian]

I would rather.

[Jacob]

I would rather be hot. John, are you gonna be right beside you getting in the nude? Yeah, he was saying essentially.

[John Reed]

So wintertime.

[Bobby]

What?

[Christian]

Yeah, winter time.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[John Reed]

And it's hunting season.

[John Luke]

I am raver.

[John Reed]

Can't kill anything during summertime. I ain't sitting on the couch all the time. I got energy.

[Bobby]

Oh, I don't know where it's come from. I don't have to take all my medicine no more. I'm off my sugar medicine. Staying level.

[John Reed]

I ain't got to do that.

[Bobby]

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[John Reed]

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[Bobby]

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[John Reed]

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[Bobby]

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[Christian]

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[Bobby]

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[Jacob]

Y' all have anything planned for hunting season? Anybody? Just waiting for dad to text us

[John Luke]

last year, his family, hey, we all need to go.

[Jacob]

We didn't go on a hunt.

[John Luke]

We didn't go. We did this year because our.

[Jacob]

I feel like our guys trip was whenever we. We went to Texas to.

[John Reed]

That was balling.

[John Luke]

Wherever you call the.

[Jacob]

Whenever we did the whole.

[John Reed]

We'll never be able to outdo that.

[Jacob]

Yeah, we will.

[Christian]

But I think if we want to do a trip this year, it's all

[Jacob]

about memory and experience.

[John Reed]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying as a visual, that place is like Africa.

[Jacob]

I don't think. I don't think I'll ever shoot a tank again in my life.

[Christian]

If we want to go on another brother in law hunting trip this year, Brother in law, let's go.

[John Reed]

Duck.

[John Luke]

Where should we go?

[Christian]

But I'm saying who. Who needs to send the. Who needs to initiate the conversation for it to happen? It's either you or Will. I don't, I don't know who. Who you think.

[John Luke]

Oh, like I'm saying here, though, should.

[John Reed]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

[Jacob]

I'm saying, like, we can go somewhere if it makes sense, but like, we could all just plan a day and go here too.

[John Luke]

Wait, let's get.

[John Reed]

Let's put that we had fun, us three, fun.

[John Luke]

Let's have some audience interaction here. We're podcasters.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[John Luke]

If Put in the comments. Where should we go on our brother's

[Christian]

hunting trip and who should ask to

[John Luke]

go there and who should set it up? Yeah. Who do you think? Also, who do you think is the most responsible? Put in the comments.

[Jacob]

More like who is the most tapped in?

[John Luke]

Who's the most locked in?

[Jacob]

I just mean, like, it's kind of hard if you don't know anywhere. Like if maybe we're going public land or going private land.

[John Reed]

That's fun in Oklahoma.

[Christian]

I just mean, like, if we all were in a group chat. Like if someone started looking your message and it was like. And Will was like, hey, dad, we need to go on.

[Jacob]

Oh, so we're saying we're affiliating this with Willie. I'm talking about without Willie. Like, if he wants to go, that's great.

[Christian]

But I'm saying we've done it like seven years of like all of us going on a hunt. But last year was the first time we didn't.

[Jacob]

But I think everybody's busy, man. I think it like this, though. I think if we plan it, we're all busy. I think if we come to, we get dates, we plan it, and we're like, hey, we can all go this date to this day and we just plan it. Willie will come. Like, we don't. If we just make the plans, he'll be like, I want to go with my sons and son in laws. Like.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[John Reed]

And if he doesn't, then we'll just all get.

[Jacob]

That's what I'm saying. And if he doesn't, I still want to go.

[John Luke]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

So cool.

[Christian]

But most places might be contingent on him.

[John Luke]

Okay, wait, we need. Yeah. All right. As we're wrapping up, Will, since You're our designated J.D. we need a Bible verse.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Oh, man.

[Jacob]

You can use your phone.

[John Luke]

Three to five more minutes.

[Jacob]

All right, wait. Just plan for three, five, 55. Okay.

[John Luke]

Okay.

[Christian]

What do y' all talk about for 55 minutes?

[Jacob]

Craziness. Absurdity.

[John Luke]

Okay, we need five more minutes. My bad. I thought we were usually. I thought we were on A Shame

[Jacob]

where you wrap up usually, like SA has a 20 minute segment on PBS and what he learned, you know.

[John Luke]

Well, that's just because you have to cut out everything size says. So.

[John Reed]

Yeah.

[John Luke]

All the crazy stuff.

[Christian]

Okay, Will, what's our Bible verse?

[Jacob]

No, no, he said we got like five more minutes.

[Christian]

We could talk about the Bible.

[John Luke]

We could do a long Bible verse.

[Jacob]

Oh, okay.

[John Luke]

Yeah, we can come.

[Jacob]

Do a long one.

[John Reed]

No, here we go.

[Jacob]

Hold on.

[Christian]

This is the verse of the day.

[John Luke]

This is off the dome.

[Jacob]

This is off the dome.

[John Luke]

Not reading this.

[Jacob]

He is. Oh, that's Cap.

[John Luke]

Oh, no, he is reading.

[John Reed]

I am reading.

[Jacob]

John.

[John Reed]

Luke's.

[John Luke]

I can't see.

[Jacob]

I can't see. No, this is just the verse of the day. Just short and simple and sweet. Turn away from evil and do good,

[Christian]

seek peace and pursue it.

[John Luke]

That's good. Yeah, that's it.

[Jacob]

Simple. But I think that's life in general if you break it down.

[John Luke]

John.

[Christian]

Right. What do you think of when you hear that verse?

[John Reed]

Repeat it one more time.

[Jacob]

Turn away from evil and do good, seek peace and pursue it.

[John Reed]

Yeah, I completely agree with it. I don't know what you. You want me to elaborate?

[Jacob]

True or false? Yonder, deep in there.

[John Luke]

I. I have a thought. I have a thought. And this, this would be a good thing. It kind of goes with the verse. So last night I. We have. We've got middle schoolers at camp this week. So I've got like, there's like 85 middle school boys. Okay, there's girls too. But I just held all the guys in because they were all being crazy, like disruptive, messing with each other, like, not listening, like all the stuff. And so I gave him a talk and I said, okay, we're going to talk about something tonight. We're going to talk about what does it mean to be a man. And I said, does anyone have any thoughts on it? And this kid like just yells out beer and shotguns. And I was like, one bold of you at a church camp. And everyone like started laughing or whatever. And someone was like, Texas trucks. And you know, they started like yelling all the stuff. And I was like, okay, everyone, like, take it. Take a step back. I said, what? Everything you're saying is like external, outward things in manhood. And that has nothing to do with it. The single thing that separates a boy from man, the thing that you've got to realize right now as 12 year olds and that you need to start developing in your life. The thing that's going to carry you all the way through to the end is self control. If you can control yourself, you can. The world will be unlocked for you. You'll be above your peers. So I was talking about that and I was like. And it's hard. We're all learning it and you can't do it by yourself. It's got to take accountability. So it's all going to like, you gotta hold each other accountable. You gotta be men with each other. You gotta help each other. Like, control. And that starts with two things. The first one is controlling your mouth. So when I'm talking or someone's up here talking, you don't talk. And second is controlling your body. And we're gonna practice that by when we go to our snacks in just a minute, everyone's gonna walk to snacks instead of just run full speed like they normally do. And they got it. They actually did it.

[Jacob]

You know, that's good. Based off that, I literally was listening to a podcast the other day, and it's a guy, just a. It's a financial guy and just like, it's just what the podcast is about. But he's. He says he podcast was titled A few short Stories. And like, he said something that's pretty much based off the same thing. And so he would. He brought up two things. Like eulogy, I think eulogy virtues and then like resume virtues. And like, essentially I think what he's saying is like, resume virtues is like, house, nice car. You know, all these different things. Like you're saying, like, outward stuff and then like uology virtues. I want to say, I mean, you can change it, but it's like, you know, being a good father. Like, you know same things when you're saying peace, patience, kindness, you know, you know, your relationship with the Lord and like, those things. And it said a lot of people want uology virtues, but put all their effort into resume virtues. So like, we can say as men, like, we want all these things, but the things like we care about or like, we'll talk about is like all the. And like all the effort we'll put towards is like, what we have, like, things instead of like, internally. And I thought that was so true, like, even from, like for myself, it's like sometimes, like I say I want all these things like you're saying, like what it. Like what it means to be a man. Self control, I might say that. But then it's like I actually sometimes feel more rooted in, like, the things that I have. Like, that's what is going to get me that instead of. But, you know, deep down I just thought that was good.

[Christian]

Yeah, that's good.

[Jacob]

Super good.

[Christian]

Yeah. When you were talking about, about, you know, about manhood and masculinity and what makes a man even. Even like seek peace and pursue it. You know, I think so much has to be rooted in humility. And like you talked about with self control, it's like to achieve self control, whether it's, you know, mentally, spiritually, physically, like, you have to have humility to get there. And I think. I think in our culture, especially with masculinity, you men never admit they're wrong, never say they're struggling, never have humility to actually take ownership for things. And I think when you. When you truly, well, when you do surrender your life to Christ, when you do, you know, have the Holy Spirit and dwelt within you, you do embody humility. And out of humility, you see the self control, you see, seek peace and pursue it. Because often, I mean, it's saying, seek peace, seek peace and pursue it. Because there's probably a situation where you need to be the bigger person to actually pursue the peace. There's even a verse where Paul says, as much as it has to do with you. Gosh, what's the verse? We're just talking about peace.

[John Luke]

Yeah. As much as it has to do with you. Live at peace with.

[Christian]

Yeah, live at peace with everyone around you. And just that idea of you achieve that through humility. So whether it's seek peace and pursue it, living out self control as a man, I think it starts with humility. And all of the other things will come into place from there.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[John Luke]

And that's the thing, is that in the end of the day, like, you also have to have God, like, working your life. And that's like that where that humility comes from of like every time you make a mistake, mistake not to spiral into that and get worse, but say, God, forgive me, forgive yourself, apologize those around you, and then start over. Which is which? I think what the good news of Christ is is that we he allowed he died for our sins so that we can repent and change.

[Jacob]

And God's will is undriable. We'll all run dry like ourselves. Willpower, like, it doesn't last. Like, it doesn't matter how strong you are. Like, how strong you think you are. Yeah, that's good. Good stuff.

[Christian]

Well, guys, that was fun.

[John Reed]

Good work.

[Jacob]

Yeah, it's fun. I mean, hey, roast us in the comments. You know, I know this isn't your normal group, so. Yeah, if you like.

[Christian]

What could our podcast be called instead of the Duck cover?

[John Luke]

The Duck Boys. The Duck Boys.

[Jacob]

Yeah. I don't know, Something. Maybe.

[Christian]

What could our podcast.

[Jacob]

If you would listen to a podcast with all of us, let us know. We might do it. I don't know. Maybe not.

[John Luke]

This is the plug. We'll see if it.

[Christian]

Hunter, what do you think? Should we have our own podcast?

[Jacob]

Yeah, Hunter.

[Bobby]

What?

[Jacob]

Rate us. Rate us 1 to 10 on our first one.

[John Luke]

5, 7 or 8. Hey. Hey.

[Jacob]

And he doesn't actually like us, so that's not biased. So. Well, that was fun, Sam.