Uncle Si Believes His Real Daughter is Still in Germany

Summary

Duck Call Room Podcast: “Uncle Si Believes His Real Daughter is Still in Germany”

Hosts: Si Robertson & Justin Martin
Guests/Regulars: John-David Owen, John Godwin, Jay Stone, Phillip McMillan, Jacob Mayo
Date: February 24, 2026

---

Episode Overview

This episode brings the crew back together after a loud NWTF convention, swapping hunting stories, family tales, and their signature blend of humor and wisdom. The conversation meanders from tales of winter flu and fly hunting in the studio to serious moments about education, maturity, and life lessons for the next generation—all capped off with Si's classic theorizing about "his real daughter" potentially still being in Germany.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Convention Catch-Up & Flu Stories

• Si returns from the NWTF convention with a lost voice, blaming the loud crowd and possibly contracting the flu (“I popped the 103 on this one. Apparently I don't get around people enough around here to keep my immune system.” — Si, [02:22]).
• All recall the joy of seeing enthusiastic young hunters and kids at events.

2. “Legendary” Septic Tank Adventures

• Hunter shares a comedic tale about his parents' never-before-clogged septic tank finally backing up after 37 years, leading to a chaotic DIY repair attempt and the demise of an old pair of Nikes ([03:41]–[04:37]).
• Humor escalates into a battle with a giant fly in the studio (“We need a salt gun.” — Martin, [05:31]), providing running physical comedy throughout the episode.

3. Olympics, LSU, and Athletic Tall Tales

• Discussion morphs into the Winter Olympics, unusual competitions, and the physical risks involved (“The cool thing about the Winter Olympics is most every sport involves a potential for a serious injury.” — Si, [09:06]).
• Debates about Louisiana’s best athletes—pole vaulter Duplantis, Sha’Carri Richardson, and speculation about trap shooters ([12:41]–[13:40]).

4. Tall Tales: Bowfishing, Catching Flies, and Bear-Like Runners

• Phil tells wild, exaggerated stories of bowfishing catfish with a shotgun and the legendary “bear Jones” running back:
  • “He was about 5, 4D bear... 280. Yeah. Okay, look, he had no neck, okay? And hey, look, he was just a block. No, with a head on top of. On the block.” — Phil, [16:51]
• The crew teases out the “truth-telling” ratio in Phil’s stories ([16:00]–[16:26]).

5. Maturity, Education, and Career Day Reflections

• The group debates the value of formal education versus hands-on experience, laying out honest opinions about the college path and “endurance” required for a degree:
  • “The degree the paper they give you, okay. It will get you in doors that without it, you won't go through.” — Phil, [45:03]
  • “All you need is work ethic.” — Si, [44:46]
• Phil admits he’s still immature at 78 and proud of it, encouraging kids to enjoy childhood and avoid rushing into adulthood ([39:01]–[39:49]).

6. Career Day Anecdotes

• Hunter describes his appearance at Career Day, juxtaposed with professionals (“When I get to work at 6, I sweep a cricket cage first... flush all the dead shiners down the toilet and everybody laughs. And I was like, y'all, that's not a joke.” — Hunter, [33:09]).
• Discussion turns to whether degrees are necessary, settling on the idea that endurance and the ability to finish what you start are what matter most.

7. Si’s Daughter in Germany: The Origin Story

• The episode’s titular story finally emerges:
  • Phil recounts having to call a classroom as “proof of life” for his daughter, Tracer, after students doubted her celebrity connection.
  • “The theory is that it was babies were switched when she was in the hospital... Somewhere in Germany, there’s a lady figuring out hey, I don’t fit in with just these people.” — Phil, [43:02]
  • Si’s playful framing and family ribbing signal classic Duck Call Room humor.

8. Random Wisdom, Life Advice, and Listener Mail

• Phil offers heartfelt advice to the kids:
  • “Enjoy being kids, especially with your friends. My prayer for you is y’ all take care of each other. Don’t let your buddies get on drugs or alcohol or none of these bad junk... Don’t be a follower.” — Phil, [48:31]
• Pizza, weight loss, and listener shoutouts:
  • Greg from South Carolina writes in about “bad pizza,” sparking a regional debate ([53:00]–[53:40]).
  • Sam from North Carolina thanks the podcast for his 50-pound weight loss, earning back-pats and pizza jokes ([55:01]–[55:28]).

9. Musings on Math, Music, and Maturity

• Philosophical tangent: Is music really “math”?
  • “Music is deeply rooted in mathematics, using ratio.” — Hunter, reading Google, [30:05]
  • The group humorously splits on the topic, ending with: “It is math... Could be. That’s right. It’s the foundation.” — Phil & Martin, [30:33]

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [02:22] Si: “I popped the 103 on this one. Apparently I don't get around people enough around here to keep my immune system.”
• [05:31] Martin: “We need a salt gun.”
• [09:06] Si: “The cool thing about the Winter Olympics is most every sport involves a potential for a serious injury.”
• [16:51] Phil: “He was about 5, 4D bear... 280. Yeah. Okay, look, he had no neck, okay? And hey, look, he was just a block. No, with a head on top of. On the block.”
• [39:01] Phil: “I was immature. Okay. That's why I didn't do good in college.”
• [43:02] Phil: “The theory is that it was babies were switched when she was in the hospital... Somewhere in Germany there’s a lady figuring out hey, I don’t fit in with just these people.”
• [44:46] Si: “All you need is work ethic.”
• [45:03] Phil: “The degree the paper they give you, okay. It will get you in doors that without it, you won't go through.”
• [48:31] Phil: “Enjoy being a kid. Don't rush it... take care of each other. Don't let none of your buddies... get on drugs or alcohol or none of this bad junk.”
• [30:33] Phil: “It is math... Could be. That's right. It's the foundation.”

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:07] — Episode opens, Si’s raspy voice, NWTF convention recap
• [03:41–04:37] — Hunter’s septic tank story and lost Nikes
• [05:31–07:01] — Ongoing battle with the giant fly
• [09:06–09:56] — Winter Olympics = maximum danger
• [13:40] — Louisiana Olympics legends
• [16:00–17:33] — Phil’s big fish and bear Jones tall tales
• [33:09–34:04] — Career Day honesty: ‘sweeping cricket cages’
• [43:02–43:45] — Si’s daughter in Germany / switched at birth theory
• [48:31–49:14] — Phil’s heartfelt advice to kids
• [53:00–54:19] — Pizza opinions and regional pizza pride
• [55:01–56:29] — Weight loss shoutout
• [56:48–57:10] — Closing Bible verse (Isaiah 41:13), listener thanks

---

Closing Bible Verse

Isaiah 41:13 (NIV):
“For I am the Lord your God, who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, do not fear. I will help you.”
(Shared by Martin on behalf of Jeremy Mater at [56:48])

---

Overall Tone & Takeaway

True to Duck Call Room tradition, this episode mixes unfiltered country humor, wild “fish stories,” and the deep camaraderie of lifelong friends. Beneath the laughs are real reflections about purpose, honesty, growing up, and looking out for the next generation—with Uncle Si’s signature blend of meandering logic and heartfelt sincerity.

Closing Soundbite:

“We should do this again sometime.” — Phil, [57:21]

---

Missed the episode? This summary captures the best tall tales, laughs, and life lessons delivered by the Duck Call Room crew.

Transcript

[Home Depot Announcer]

Right now get up to 20% off select online storage solutions put heavy duty HDX totes to good use, protecting what's important to you. The solid impact resistant design prevents cracking and the clear base and sides make items easy to find even when the totes are stacked. Find select online shelving and tote storage up to 20% off at the Home Depot. To organize every room in your home from your garage to your attic, visit homedepot.com how doers get more DONE this

[Nordstrom Announcer]

episode is brought to you by Nordstrom. Ready to refresh your wardrobe? Nordstrom has all the latest styles for spring, from elevated dresses and denim to standout tops and accessories. Discover the trends and essentials you'll reach for again and again. We've got brands you love like Waif, Princess, Polly, Mango, Adidas and Favorite Daughter. Plus free shipping, free returns and quick order pickup. Make updating your closet effortless. Shop in [e-mail] or download our app.

[Si]

Welcome back to the Duck call room, ladies and gentlemen. We're back.

[Martin]

Size got his hat backwards. So that's how today's gonna go.

[Si]

You all business, huh?

[Phil]

Oh, yeah.

[Si]

Well, good, because I need you to talk because my voice is still recovering, so.

[Phil]

Baby, you've been hollering at the Olympics.

[Si]

No hollering. Hollering at everybody at that NWTF convention because it's so daggum loud in there. You can't just talk.

[Hunter]

Is there a lot of turkey calls there, buddy? I don't think.

[Martin]

I love it.

[Si]

If an animal makes a racket and there's a call for it, it's there, it's there.

[Hunter]

Fish calls.

[Phil]

Animals make a racket. I used to own one turkey call.

[Si]

I'm sure they have the th Marine, whatever that thing is.

[Martin]

Sonar.

[Hunter]

You just blow into the water. It's weird.

[Martin]

Interesting.

[Si]

But yeah. So yeah, I got no voice.

[Phil]

Was there a good crowd?

[Si]

That was a lot of people.

[Martin]

I wonder what the turnout was.

[Si]

I don't know.

[Martin]

Last year it was like 80,000 people.

[Si]

So I would say. I would say more than I would guess.

[Phil]

That's a good grail.

[Si]

And one of them apparently had the flu because they gave it to me.

[Hunter]

That means everybody got the show.

[Martin]

Flu.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

You gotta stop every time you go to a show. You end up down for the count for like three or four days.

[Si]

I popped the 103 on this one. Apparently I don't get around people enough around here to keep my immune system.

[Hunter]

Praise the Lord.

[Si]

But yeah. No, it was good though. It was fine. Other than that little bit of misery but it was fun. Yeah. Good seeing all the kids, man. A bunch of kids, which is what's always cool about this. They'll see the. See the youngsters out there fired up about hunting and fishing. They all love you and they all ask about you.

[Phil]

That was the fun part of my trip to Arkansas.

[Hunter]

You went to Arkansas?

[Phil]

I was a kids.

[Martin]

Oh, the youth hunt and the veteran hunt.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Phil]

That was a blast.

[Si]

There is a big dumb fly.

[Hunter]

It's back.

[Si]

That's what you try to catch one of them great big.

[Phil]

You definitely ain't no sluggun.

[Martin]

That's the Moby Dick of flies.

[Si]

We need that boy with the 400.

[Phil]

I used to be able to catch three.

[Hunter]

You used to be able to catch three flies, right.

[Phil]

That's what that gunslinger said on Magnus like that. He done it, had done that and opened his hands. It was one flew away. And he said in the back, in my day I'd have called all three.

[Hunter]

All of them. You can catch three flies with one hand. You got quick hands.

[Si]

Oh, yeah. Or you're around something that stinks real bad.

[Martin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hunter]

You're just real smell.

[Martin]

You've been playing with cow manure.

[Hunter]

Yeah, I was the other night playing with cow manure. People manure.

[Martin]

Oh, fun. Oh, tell us about it.

[Si]

Oh, I love a good septic tank story. Because that's got to be. Because it's obviously not sewer. Because if you're playing with it, who clogged it?

[Martin]

That's the question.

[Hunter]

Well, in 37 years, they've never had a problem with their septic tank. My parents haven't. So we were like, we have the world's most magical septic tank. And you know, it's one of those don't ask, don't tell things.

[Si]

Yeah. If it's working, you don't mess with.

[Hunter]

Don't mess with it.

[Martin]

It's good.

[Hunter]

Then it finally happened and we went out into the woods where the septic tank is also totally around pine trees. So we had to dig our way to that.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

And then, yeah, it was clogged. So then I was underneath my parents house and we didn't have the right tools, so we found a big piece of cable and I was just 37 years worth trying to get that sucker.

[Si]

Oh. Using it like a snake.

[Hunter]

It didn't work.

[Martin]

You just clog it up more.

[Hunter]

I generally want, you know those old Nikes I wear a lot. Probably won't see them again.

[Si]

They in there.

[Hunter]

They're done.

[Si]

They're good.

[Hunter]

They're done. They did. They did Their job.

[Martin]

But now they're going in a bonfire.

[Si]

So did you bring him in, cuz? Now I see that big fly he lit right there in front of us now.

[Hunter]

Yeah, I might have.

[Si]

That's.

[Hunter]

I haven't smelled great lately.

[Si]

So what? Y' all determine the cause? Y' all got a new septic tank now?

[Hunter]

Hey, eventually. I'm a big believer in one thing. You just call a professional.

[Phil]

Oh.

[Hunter]

S taking off his microphone to kill a fly. Call a professional, let them do their thing and don't ask too many questions.

[Martin]

Well, I would you call a plumber. That's good.

[Si]

I would imagine it. To hunt.

[Phil]

That's one of them green big fat ones.

[Hunter]

Oh, okay. Oh. Don't ever talk about black hands again.

[Martin]

The black panther.

[Phil]

I'll make you go somewhere else.

[Si]

He right there. Now.

[Martin]

I'll give you your ammunition.

[Si]

You want it? Yeah. Give me that thought.

[Hunter]

Oh, pause in the action, people.

[Phil]

Kill that sucker.

[Hunter]

We.

[Martin]

We need a salt gun.

[Hunter]

We have a serious issue with having to hurt stuff.

[Si]

You ain't gonna kill it.

[Phil]

Where is he at? Can't see him.

[Si]

Look at it.

[Phil]

Is he looking at me like we'll kill him anyway?

[Hunter]

He's in the lights. Ladies and gentlemen. Martin. What the. He hit something.

[Si]

Ah, he's inside there now. Suck it.

[Phil]

All right. He got click on us, boys. He's inside.

[Martin]

Rip.

[Hunter]

Oh, he just flew out.

[Martin]

He's right there. Look, he's on that light.

[Phil]

Hold on. Hold on.

[Hunter]

I'm going to grab him. Grab him.

[Martin]

You better pinch him. He's right here.

[Hunter]

Hunter's.

[Si]

Jacob. Where your dog? She can fetch that thing.

[Martin]

Oh, yeah.

[Hunter]

That is a big fly.

[Si]

I mean, anyway. Oh, he's back, baby.

[Hunter]

Where is he?

[Phil]

Mr. McGann. Boys.

[Martin]

I couldn't even see him.

[Phil]

I'm just throwing. I'm gun sleepers around here.

[Hunter]

Do they make him a fly car?

[Martin]

There he is.

[Si]

No, no, but they make one of them salt guns. If these things keep appearing, we're gonna have to get one of them in here.

[Martin]

Right?

[Si]

Oh, no.

[Phil]

There he is. He's up there on that one.

[Si]

Flies are like ducks. Let him land and kill him.

[Hunter]

Oh, I'm going snag him straight out of the sky.

[Si]

Here you come.

[Martin]

I don't still don't look at him.

[Si]

Put the. I don't want to grab that thing because whatever is going to explode out of him, I don't want on my hand. So I don't mind it getting on my hat.

[Martin]

You could get the west now from them.

[Si]

Yeah, I ain't trying to. That Big suck. You liable to get E. Coli. Don't tell him where he been Eating

[Hunter]

E. Coli's a bad.

[Martin]

I would agree with you, Martin. There was a bunch of kids at the show.

[Si]

Yeah, it was fun.

[Martin]

They were awesome.

[Si]

It was fun. Man, I hope I didn't.

[Phil]

Who's been winning all the gold medals on what?

[Martin]

The Olympics.

[Hunter]

Do you still not have tv?

[Phil]

Well, I got it, but I don't watch.

[Martin]

I haven't watched anything.

[Hunter]

He didn't. He didn't even watch the super bowl. So I've been worried that Phil missed nothing. I mean, I know, but I'm worried Phil put them up somewhere, like the 1970s where there were no TVs.

[Si]

No. Something tells me the problem is he's still in 1970. And this. Wherever he's at in 2026.

[Martin]

That could be true.

[Si]

It's probably the true issue of it. I don't. Not. Not the U.S. i mean, U.S. doing all right.

[Martin]

But, hey, have y' all been watching the LSU baseball?

[Hunter]

The Olympics?

[Si]

I enjoy it. To me, watching them folks bobsled as I was recovering from the flu was.

[Hunter]

But you didn't see the dude finish.

[Si]

I didn't.

[Hunter]

Backwards.

[Si]

No, I ain't see nobody.

[Hunter]

This dude was on. I think they call it the moguls, where it's just a bunch of bumps and it looks like you're trying to hurt yourself.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

And he got all twisted up, and then it ended up backwards, and then he just kept going backwards.

[Si]

Really?

[Hunter]

And he won.

[Si]

They get style points.

[Hunter]

He should have.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Martin]

I don't know what kind of.

[Phil]

What was it?

[Martin]

What were they doing?

[Hunter]

He was on skis.

[Martin]

Yeah, but I'm saying, like, what was it?

[Si]

Like a.

[Phil]

On the ice. Ice skis, a lot of different skiing on the blades.

[Si]

Oh, my favorite was how is there

[Hunter]

a lot of different skin.

[Martin]

There's, like, freestyle where they're doing.

[Hunter]

Oh, the half fights.

[Si]

No, there's just.

[Hunter]

This is just the whole.

[Phil]

Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Martin]

I know what moguls are, but I

[Phil]

like to watch racing.

[Hunter]

I can't pronounce his name. He's.

[Phil]

Get up in the air.

[Si]

Oh, that.

[Martin]

The big, Big sky or whatever. Freestyle.

[Si]

That jump last night, the ski jump, where they start on, like, the top of the roller coaster.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Si]

Ride that thing all the way down. Yeah. Then boys. Flying 140 meters in the air. Are you kidding me? I would have a heart, dude.

[Martin]

I watched this Red Bull thing the other day.

[Phil]

I like to watch them get up there because they. They are up there, buddy.

[Martin]

This dud, like the world Record for longest ski jump. I forgot how many meters he jumped, but it was.

[Phil]

I didn't know they. I didn't know they went as fast as they go.

[Si]

I will say the cool thing about the Winter Olympics is most every sport involves a potential for a serious injury. Like the summer's like, you know, pretty.

[Hunter]

You can run 100.

[Si]

Pretty bland. Yeah.

[Martin]

I get hurt like Papa Hammy.

[Si]

Then folks doing the Winter Olympics, everything they do can get. Except maybe the curlers. I don't know.

[Hunter]

But be hard to get. You smash finger.

[Si]

Yeah, I guess. Get your foot caught on one of them big old pieces.

[Phil]

I know one thing. They ain't scared of heights.

[Hunter]

No, no, I am.

[Martin]

I know their adrenaline is just pumping out the roof.

[Si]

Oh, you big rascal. You know, won't land.

[Martin]

Think about if you were up there about to go down some like 100 foot drop to hit a ramp and do.

[Si]

I'm trying to figure out how to avoid speed skate. Like how they're basically at a 45 with the ground the whole time.

[Hunter]

Like just skating real fast.

[Si]

Yeah, I know, but like one hand on. I mean, how do they. I don't understand how that little thin piece of metal martin keeps them upright.

[Hunter]

We can't even slow skate.

[Si]

No.

[Hunter]

We shouldn't even try and figure out what speed skating.

[Si]

If anything's been proven. I can't walk on ice.

[Phil]

Oh, no. That's what keeps me up, though, is the speed.

[Si]

What? Oh, he is on your microphone.

[Phil]

Jacob. No, serious.

[Hunter]

The fly's back.

[Si]

He is on your microphone.

[Martin]

I'm so scared.

[Si]

Do not miss this shot.

[Phil]

Oh, he's there.

[Si]

I hear Eminem in the background.

[Hunter]

No chance.

[Si]

I'm.

[Phil]

Oh, what was that?

[Si]

Hit him.

[Hunter]

I wonder if I break a micro. Oh, what about that? That was close.

[Phil]

That was close.

[Hunter]

That was close.

[Martin]

I hit him. We got to replay that.

[Phil]

I fixed a tear one that might be the biggest.

[Si]

What is that? The good, the bad and the ugly. Where the.

[Hunter]

Taking off his. Take a break in the action.

[Martin]

Oh, did you get him?

[Phil]

Yeah, I knocked him off. I don't know if I killed him.

[Hunter]

Well, he knocked him down off of one of the. What are those light bulbs? Hunter, that are big circles in the sky. Hunter doesn't have his microphone with the lanterns.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

This is a weird room.

[Martin]

A Japanese lantern.

[Si]

Yeah, it really.

[Martin]

It kind of looks like the Japanese. Like New Year.

[Si]

I'll give shot this. I haven't seen him since he swung at him.

[Martin]

That's a good call.

[Si]

Look, y' all know we believe the story of Easter is the Most beautiful story ever told. But sometimes, because we know it so well, we can forget what it actually costs. What if this year you slowed down and considered the cost? That's actually the idea behind Tim Tebow's new book, if the Tree Could Speak.

[Hunter]

Hey, can you stop talking? I'm reading this book right now.

[Si]

Hey. It's going to tell you the story of the Crucifixion from a perspective you've never heard before, from the cross itself. It's one of those books that makes you stop and think and really picture what that day was like. The illustrations are beautiful. Every page leads you to really feel the weight of the crucifixion moment. And even if you know the story, this book gives you a fresh way to see it. You'll reflect, think, and deepen your faith. Look, reading it, you step inside the story, hear the witness, and ultimately experience Easter like never before.

[Hunter]

Hey, you ready for the best spoiler about the book ever? Page 108's the best. He is risen. He is risen. The king is alive. Right there for you.

[Si]

There you go. Look. And this one's worth checking out. You'll see the Crucible fiction differently than ever before. If the Tree Could Speak by Tim Tebow is available now on Amazon. Order your copy today.

[Martin]

What's Louisiana's best, like, Olympic athlete, like, ever? As, like, we produced anybody in the Olympics?

[Phil]

That.

[Hunter]

Peyton Manning?

[Martin]

What, for football?

[Hunter]

Yeah, it's the Olympics.

[Martin]

I'm talking about, like, outside of, like, football. I'm talking about gymnast or, you know, track runner. Do we have, like, a.

[Hunter]

That guy from Lafayette?

[Si]

Who.

[Hunter]

He's the pole vaulter?

[Martin]

Yeah, I'm about to say pole vaulter. Yeah. What's his name? Duplanta. Yeah, Duplantis or something.

[Hunter]

He. He was for Sweden, but. Yeah.

[Martin]

No, I'm talking about America.

[Hunter]

Well, he's. He's from here.

[Phil]

I know.

[Martin]

He did lsu, right? I don't know, Walter. Lsu.

[Hunter]

Shakari Richardson's from America. From America. From Louisiana.

[Martin]

I know there's some fast.

[Hunter]

She's fast.

[Martin]

Some track runners?

[Phil]

Yeah, some.

[Hunter]

Yeah, we're all track and field.

[Martin]

That's good, though. Some.

[Si]

I figure at some point we'd have had one of them trap shooters or something, but I guess not.

[Martin]

Yeah, that's all.

[Hunter]

You mean people here just shoot at whatever they see? You got to go to a proper place to get a trap shooter?

[Si]

Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. We don't really have any gun clubs like that where you can shoot rings and stuff.

[Hunter]

Yeah, no, we just shoot it we just shoot.

[Si]

Well, we eat it.

[Hunter]

Size threatening to shoot a fly right

[Martin]

now with a hollow point into the ceiling of Duck Commander.

[Si]

Wouldn't be the first one.

[Phil]

That's the western.

[Hunter]

That was me.

[Si]

Yeah. Would definitely be the second one that's been shot in the ceiling of this place.

[Phil]

Is the hole still there?

[Hunter]

They redid that roof, didn't they?

[Si]

Oh, yeah. Harry had that redone.

[Hunter]

Yeah. I put a hole in the roof one time just to see. We needed to test our security.

[Martin]

So you did it.

[Hunter]

I, I.

[Martin]

You volunteered.

[Hunter]

I said we'll see how good our security is. So we took a shotgun shell. I don't know that we can air this. I emptied out all the BBs. Left the wad in and the powder. And the powder. And boom. Desk pop.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Shot flies with it.

[Hunter]

No, I just shot the ceiling. It went into the ceiling.

[Si]

Yeah. The wadding stuck in the ceiling.

[Hunter]

And nobody ever showed up to see if I was okay. So.

[Si]

No.

[Martin]

There you go.

[Phil]

Daddy had his 16 gauge shotgun. He had a stick where it would fit in it perfectly inside a dark gun hole. And that had the powder still it. And I shot catfish with it.

[Hunter]

What?

[Si]

Really?

[Martin]

So the stick was your BB's bowfish.

[Phil]

Oh no. Babies out.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Phil]

And they had a. It was a spear is what it was. With nylon string tied to it on a wheel.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Phil]

But when he shot it, it would go off.

[Si]

High power bowfish, I'm telling you. Yeah.

[Martin]

Speargun shotgun.

[Phil]

16 gauge shotgun.

[Si]

There you go.

[Martin]

Ready to use the shotgun.

[Phil]

Stuck one him. It was three of them. Fm Marvin. Daddy. And there was one more.

[Darwin]

Four.

[Phil]

Four grown men in their 20s, right. 25. They stuck him, you know, went through him and just got a barb on the end of so he couldn't get off. They got the string, grabbed it, got in the water with him. He whooped all four of them. And last night I seen was that stick going down black bow.

[Si]

Come on now.

[Phil]

I'm serious. Daddy said he weighed about 600. 600 of Flathead. He really weighed about 450.

[Hunter]

Oh, we got the Truth Teller over here dialing back.

[Phil]

I just thought it sounded better.

[Martin]

This is 150, y'.

[Phil]

All. But it did weigh 450. Did I just added 150 for make.

[Hunter]

Wait, you added it?

[Phil]

I added it.

[Hunter]

And now you're just coming out right now.

[Phil]

I'm just sitting out. Yeah, I just, you know. All right, you gotta spice it up a little bit.

[Hunter]

What if that size new style. He tells a story and then tells

[Martin]

and then retracts and then retracts.

[Hunter]

Yeah, 75% untruthful from that.

[Phil]

Well, I didn't say y'. All. Y' all bought it.

[Martin]

What was that running back? You said that was like 66250.

[Phil]

Remember?

[Si]

Oh, yeah.

[Hunter]

Oh, that was his guy.

[Martin]

That's what I'm saying. What was his name? That guy from Shreveport or whatever.

[Hunter]

Oh, yeah, we found that one.

[Phil]

And I tried to tackle. Yeah, you saved the bear Jones. There he is.

[Martin]

Hey, there he is.

[Phil]

Hey. He won All American that year. And they won. They won the championship ship.

[Hunter]

How big was he?

[Phil]

Huh?

[Hunter]

How big was he?

[Phil]

He was about 5, 4D bear.

[Martin]

What?

[Phil]

Yeah, he was 280. Yeah. Okay, look, he had no neck, okay? And hey, look, he was just a block. No, with a head on top of. On the block.

[Hunter]

He was a Minecraft character.

[Martin]

He was a real life Lego.

[Phil]

I'm trying to look. I. I don't see anything in here the size of his thighs. Probably the size of a five gallon bucket.

[Martin]

Oh, my gosh.

[Phil]

I'm serious.

[Martin]

It was a peg. He, like.

[Phil]

I could barely get my arms around both of his legs.

[Martin]

There's no way you could get them around them 2 5.

[Phil]

And look, he literally beat me to death with his knees because he carried me kicking me with his knees for like 35 or 40 yards. All I'm doing.

[Martin]

You have CTE.

[Si]

It's all.

[Phil]

Got chickens down and had his feet and I tripped him up. That's the reason he failed. Otherwise he'd have scored.

[Hunter]

We should study you one day.

[Phil]

All the.

[Hunter]

All the horses.

[Si]

Y' all can study whatever you want to, but I'm going after them.

[Hunter]

Kid, you're going out. I want the brain.

[Si]

Yeah, yeah.

[Martin]

Are you a donor? Sigh.

[Phil]

Huh?

[Martin]

You a donor on your license?

[Phil]

Donor?

[Si]

Yeah, organ donor.

[Hunter]

Why are you taking the microphone off?

[Si]

He done unplugged them.

[Phil]

Okay, let me bet.

[Martin]

Is it plugged? You can hear now.

[Phil]

I got one ear. One ear.

[Martin]

One ear.

[Si]

Oh, that's all that's ever worked, according to Hunter.

[Hunter]

Hunter just went.

[Phil]

At least this is my good ear right here.

[Hunter]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil]

I was like when I wore glass.

[Hunter]

What if they both actually do work?

[Phil]

Doctor said. Hey, you know, your. Your ears are worse. Only the only things are good for is hanging glasses on. You can't see anyway, so it don't make a difference.

[Hunter]

That's.

[Si]

Man, they rough on you, ain't they, old man?

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

Who's rough on him?

[Si]

Well, you got to go to Mississippi this weekend, don't you?

[Phil]

Yep. Going to the rodeo. A real rodeo this time. With horses and bulls and cowboys.

[Hunter]

What other kind of rodeo?

[Martin]

Yeah, what kind of rodeo we talking about? Like what's difference rodeo? What other rodeo did you go to?

[Phil]

Other rodeo I went to was a snake rodeo.

[Hunter]

Your microphone, sir.

[Si]

There you go.

[Phil]

What is a snake rodeo, you talking piece of junk? I had it close to. This thing's a piece of junk.

[Martin]

Somebody sent him a new headset.

[Phil]

Hey, upgrade some equipment around here.

[Hunter]

Hunter left for Valentine's Day. We came back in and hey, John David might know.

[Martin]

Send him some turtle beaches or something. You know what I'm talking about? Headphones for Xbox. Oh, turtle beaches.

[Hunter]

Not that guy.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Martin]

Oh, yeah. I'm a. Yeah, well, Astros.

[Phil]

No. Hey, but back to the rodeo. I'm gonna actually ride out in the field like the sooner football players.

[Hunter]

No, you're not. You're gonna ride a schooner.

[Phil]

I'm gonna ride a wagon.

[Hunter]

Those things tip over in Oklahoma.

[Phil]

Well, I know that when I. If you try to tip over, I'll take over the range.

[Martin]

Are you going to come out of a carriage?

[Phil]

I do want to. I do want to jump on the horses, you know.

[Hunter]

Somebody make sure Philip McMillan's phone is charged.

[Martin]

Film that.

[Si]

Philip will be over there in a wagon.

[Phil]

I'll jump on the horses. Trust me.

[Martin]

I want to see it.

[Hunter]

Hey, so you're. You're riding that into a rodeo?

[Phil]

Oh, yeah.

[Si]

I got to get in.

[Hunter]

These trips, they seem way different than what me and Willie used to do.

[Si]

Yeah. Size are a little more experiential, I think would be the only maybe.

[Phil]

Oh, I'm looking forward to this. Would this be fun? I'm looking forward to you. I'm planning on riding the horse. Yeah. And some part of it. I'm fixed ride a horse.

[Si]

If I wasn't going to Minnesota, I'd just go over because it's so close. I mean, it's just in Jackson, basically.

[Phil]

What day?

[Si]

Saturday or Saturday.

[Phil]

You look up and frame it.

[Hunter]

I would ride a bull.

[Martin]

We need to make an AI.

[Phil]

Oh, hey, I ain't riding a bull, but I will ride a horse.

[Martin]

Can somebody a. I saw riding a bull.

[Phil]

Hey, I'll ride a horse and guarantee you it's coming. How about that? I'll ride a horse and shoot some bull.

[Hunter]

I think I would ride some bull.

[Phil]

That's more my style. Okay, I'll let the bull riders ride.

[Si]

Why don't you just be the clown again?

[Phil]

Oh, yeah, well, I don't tried that.

[Si]

I know it work.

[Phil]

That's work, huh?

[Martin]

That's work. That is work.

[Phil]

We tried that. On talk downstairs. That's a bunch of work.

[Si]

Not if. Not if you don't. Just if you're the one that makes it the last one at the poker game, all you got to do, sit there.

[Phil]

Well, now, I could play that part. I could play that part.

[Martin]

Hey, dad said he whooped you up the other night in poker.

[Phil]

Hey, I just go ahead and get run over.

[Martin]

Do you hear me?

[Phil]

I'm going to win.

[Martin]

Now you did you hear me? Dad said he whoops you in poker last night.

[Phil]

Oh, I. Your dad? Yeah.

[Martin]

He said don't thank me. Thank Sa for dinner. That's what he told me.

[Hunter]

I got to get big.

[Phil]

Thank me to dinner.

[Si]

Lucky Russ got him. Done got him.

[Martin]

We were going out to eat. He looked at Belly, said you should tell Sa thank you next time he see.

[Phil]

No, no. Your dad has got a full grown mule with brand new shoes on up his rear end. There it is.

[Si]

There it is. I knew where it was going.

[Hunter]

I knew exactly when I heard the term full grown mule. I knew where it was going to be located.

[Phil]

I to call plunk on him the other night, Let them come in there and hook it up, pull it out,

[Martin]

get that tow truck on us.

[Hunter]

He's lucky.

[Phil]

That's right. He's lucky.

[Hunter]

Or you're just not that good.

[Phil]

No, he. He's actually good too. But he is lucky.

[Martin]

He is lucky.

[Hunter]

Are you lucky?

[Phil]

Oh, ever. Century or so. Century.

[Si]

Once a quarter.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Si]

Listen, we've always been honest with y', all, and the truth around here is that we like to eat good. Ain't that right, boys?

[Darwin]

Hey, ain't nothing better than a ham sandwich. But the older I get, I know I need to start eating better and taking care of myself. That's why I decided to make some changes this year.

[Hunter]

Yeah, but you ain't doing one of them rabbit food diets, are you?

[Darwin]

Not a chance. I called the team over at PhD weight loss after I saw I lost 80 pounds. They got me on a plan so I can lose some weight without giving up the things I love, like good food. I'm three weeks in and my pants are already feeling a little looser. I'm not hungry. I'm eating real food and I don't have to spend a bunch of time trying to figure out some crazy workout routine.

[Si]

Yeah, look, and if you're like Alvin and you've tried all the other diets, keto, Paleo, fasting, they're all the same. The weight drops and then it sneaks right back on. And the problem is it can Feel like it's your problem, like it's a willpower problem, but it's not. There's one thing that tells your body to burn fat or store it, and most diets miss it. PhD weight loss has figured that out and built a plan that actually works with your body, not against it.

[Darwin]

They got all kind of recipes on the website. The food's good. It's stuff I like. If you go out and eat, which is great for us, you know, we're speaking a lot. And do you got a little cheat sheet? Like, if you go here, this is what you can order.

[Si]

That's when I always fall off as a. Yeah. And look, if you call now, they'll give you two free weeks in the program and pay for your food so you can finally see real results without more trial and error. If you're done with yo yo dieting and want clarity, call PhD weight loss now and mention. No more guessing, just answers. Call 864-644-1900 and say Darwin. That's 864-644-1900 or visit myphdweightloss.com.

[Phil]

Math is music.

[Hunter]

All right.

[Martin]

Is that like a final point?

[Phil]

I'm just saying, hey, if math is music.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Phil]

So I. Look, I've read about 25 books trying to learn how to play that guitar.

[Martin]

What if you need to watch a video?

[Phil]

Because I know. Well, hey, watching video, too. I've tried that. Yeah. Because here's the thing that gets me when I go to a live concert and I watch the guitar players, right. Most of the whole night, okay. Is they played the first four frets on that guitar. That's as far as they go. You can play literally the first four frets. You can literally play thousands of songs. So there's shortcuts, you know, in anything, everything you get into, there's always shortcuts.

[Martin]

Do you mean like notes, or you mean literal frets on there?

[Phil]

Well, no, no, that's another thing. It's. It's actually music. And math is complicated. Very complicated.

[Hunter]

Nothing more complicated than this. You're right.

[Phil]

No, I'm serious.

[Hunter]

I'm serious, too.

[Phil]

Because there's stuff that goes on. It just goes on and on, like eternity.

[Hunter]

What's the highest number you ever counted?

[Phil]

Huh?

[Hunter]

What's the highest number you ever counted to?

[Phil]

Oh, I can't hear you

[Hunter]

now. We can't hear you.

[Martin]

At least put the mic to your mouth so we can hear, like, you can speak.

[Hunter]

What's the highest number you ever counted, too?

[Phil]

It's not all Millions. You?

[Hunter]

Millions?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Martin]

How long did it take you to count the million?

[Phil]

A lifetime. How long?

[Si]

Hey, how many have you ever finished? 99 bottles of beer on the wall.

[Hunter]

I have. Twice.

[Phil]

No, cuz I. I drank that much. I pass out.

[Si]

Why does it sound different? Why does it sound different with him holding the mic?

[Martin]

It does.

[Hunter]

Sound angle.

[Phil]

He's holding it.

[Hunter]

The microphone's pointed in a direction on that thing.

[Si]

Oh, okay. There you go.

[Hunter]

Counting to 1 million requires you to say 13 million 198 and 3 syllables, which is an average of 13.2 syllables per number. Counting at 6.15 syllables a second, it would take you 2,136,017 seconds to complete. If you counted for 16 hours a day, it would take 37.3 days or 1.2 months to count to a.

[Martin]

That's how long you count.

[Phil]

I told you. It took me a lifetime to do it. But hey,

[Hunter]

do I need to give them my mic?

[Martin]

Oh, maybe we need to get a

[Phil]

math teacher in here and a musical teacher in here. Oh, I'm good.

[Martin]

He likes. He likes gripping that.

[Hunter]

Hunter said you don't have to hold the mic and size that.

[Phil]

I'm good. Well, I am.

[Hunter]

All right, we got size mic fixed. We're back in action on this.

[Phil]

Another. Somebody found him.

[Si]

You know, sometimes you wonder what you

[Martin]

gotta put the mic on.

[Phil]

Somebody find a music teacher and somebody find a mathematician.

[Martin]

Put it on your mouth.

[Si]

Wow, that's.

[Phil]

And let's have both of them in here.

[Hunter]

It's because he's got his beard.

[Martin]

Because he's doing this. He's doing this right here. You got talking to it. He's side mouth.

[Phil]

Why was I wrinkling in your ears?

[Si]

Yeah, you still sound like you're underwater.

[Martin]

A little muffled ass.

[Phil]

I still sound like I'm underwater.

[Martin]

Nah, you're good.

[Si]

You're good. Or you're just going to turn him down one of the two.

[Hunter]

So you can't talk to the side of the mic.

[Si]

You have to talk dead center, dead straight into it.

[Hunter]

Not above it, not below it, not to the side. Have you ever. We've lost it today, ladies and gentlemen.

[Martin]

We've lost the plot, boys.

[Phil]

We have lost. Is this okay?

[Hunter]

Why are you posing?

[Martin]

You look relaxed.

[Phil]

I'm not posing. I'm relaxing. Trying to get this one where we can carry on with the podcast.

[Hunter]

How do we carry on with what we've done so far?

[Martin]

Yeah, music is math.

[Si]

We don't. We let it down.

[Hunter]

I actually look that up.

[Martin]

Is that true? What does AI say?

[Hunter]

Nobody Knows.

[Si]

Well, I just got a message on Facebook that says before I vote, our biggest complaint is our road, CR3060. It has caused multiple damages to our vehicles.

[Phil]

What?

[Si]

Or he promised to fix it and failed. So my question is, are you promising the same thing and then blow us off? Tory, we taxpayers want our road fixed correctly and promptly. Apparently, I'm running for office. Now I got to figure out a Justin Martin that's running for office.

[Phil]

Martin is going into politics because I

[Si]

need to see what I'm up against. Dustin Martin, election. Let's just see.

[Martin]

I wasn't built for political office.

[Phil]

Hey, Google this. Google this.

[Hunter]

I'm nervous.

[Si]

Oh. Apparently I'm running for county commissioner in Lubbock County.

[Martin]

Nice.

[Phil]

We're going to Lubbock, boys. Get back to the basics of love.

[Hunter]

I say CR30.

[Martin]

We ain't got no county road.

[Hunter]

What do you want me to Google? Against my better judgment?

[Phil]

Is. Is music math?

[Martin]

Yeah. I thought you looked it up.

[Phil]

I did.

[Hunter]

It's a controversial question that a lot of people disagree with you on. And a lot of people agree with you on.

[Martin]

Hot take.

[Si]

I want to see what this guy looks.

[Martin]

Let us know in the comments. Is music math? We. We. We'll look at that next time.

[Phil]

Forget all the disagreement and. And the just saying.

[Martin]

Is it a fact.

[Phil]

Hey, just answer the question. Is music math?

[Hunter]

What does it.

[Martin]

Read it. What it says?

[Hunter]

Music is deeply rooted in mathematics, using ratio.

[Martin]

That's all I need to hear, boys.

[Phil]

That's all I need to hear.

[Si]

Me and this guy.

[Phil]

If it's rooted in it, okay, that means it's. Yeah, that's what it is.

[Martin]

There you go.

[Hunter]

Music is not solely defined by math, as it also serves as a creative, emotional form of experience.

[Phil]

Now they're back. Panel. I said it right out front. Okay. It is. It's. It's rooted in math.

[Martin]

It's rooted in the foundation.

[Phil]

It is math.

[Martin]

It's foundational.

[Phil]

Could be. That's right. It's the foundation.

[Martin]

There you go.

[Si]

I just had to tell Ms. Janiece I think she's got the wrong person

[Phil]

because otherwise you can never get started. That's why they say 1, 2, 3.

[Hunter]

That's not math. That's counting.

[Martin]

Well, I would say what is 1, 2, 3, 4.

[Hunter]

That's counting.

[Phil]

No, that's math. It's a 1, it's a 2, it's a 3, and it's a 4.

[Martin]

Get up in there.

[Hunter]

Get up in there and yell at me.

[Phil]

Yeah, forget what I have to. Forget the Google. Forget the.

[Martin]

Forget the Google.

[Phil]

That's right. Forget the Google. All they want to do is argue about it. Huh.

[Hunter]

Anyway.

[Si]

Yeah. What a life.

[Hunter]

Well, sigh. Guess what I did this morning.

[Martin]

What'd you do?

[Phil]

What did you do?

[Hunter]

I went to career day.

[Si]

Career day?

[Martin]

Yeah. I think I saw you were on a panel.

[Phil]

Where did you have a career?

[Hunter]

At my old high school.

[Phil]

You went to career day on high school?

[Hunter]

Well, I was. I was a presenter.

[Martin]

What were you labeled?

[Hunter]

Children asked me questions.

[Phil]

Oh, what did you present?

[Hunter]

Well, whatever they asked, the problem was,

[Phil]

it was, do you do this for your son?

[Hunter]

No, no, this was the.

[Martin]

I was asked, actually, what were you labeled as?

[Hunter]

Businessman.

[Phil]

Well, you're getting up there in the world, John.

[Hunter]

I remember.

[Phil]

There you go.

[Hunter]

I asked them if they'd ever heard a nom and none of them had like you did on Duck Dynasty. But no, it was. I was. I wasn't nervous at all. And then I got there and it was a lawyer who was like 15 years younger than me, a teacher who was like 20 years younger than me, somehow.

[Martin]

You were the elder.

[Hunter]

And a nurse practitioner. She was actually, at least.

[Phil]

No, they were all.

[Hunter]

All of them were very nice people. I don't know, I'm not.

[Phil]

All three of them was young punks.

[Hunter]

No, no, they were great.

[Phil]

Female. Two males and one female.

[Hunter]

I was the only male. I don't know why.

[Martin]

Logical.

[Phil]

Hey, they're young. All young people are punks.

[Si]

Yeah. Didn't you know me?

[Phil]

Didn't you know that? Yeah, you know.

[Hunter]

Okay, so this. You'll like this. So we answered questions about college and everything, our jobs and all that. And I was like, well, they asked me what my day to day looks like. And the lawyer started and I think. And I didn't understand anything she said because she's way smarter than me. Then the nurse practitioner went and I was like, I got nothing. I don't. I couldn't do that either. Then the teacher talked and I was like, I couldn't do that either. And then it came to me and I was like, well, when I get to work at 6, I sweep a cricket cage first to get all the dead ones out. Then we go flush all the dead shiners down the toilet and everybody laughs. And I was like, y', all, that's not a joke.

[Phil]

That's. That's.

[Si]

No, that's what I do.

[Hunter]

That's what I do.

[Si]

That's what I do.

[Phil]

Yeah, that's life. Okay, the crickets, I gotta get them out of the cage.

[Si]

Yeah, somebody gotta do it.

[Hunter]

It was funny.

[Phil]

I gotta get them out of the water.

[Si]

Do you feel like the other panelists were judging you?

[Hunter]

No, I think they were. They were. They probably were happy I was there because all them were like, oh, I went to school for this.

[Phil]

I was like, I went to school

[Hunter]

for six years and just guessed at what I wanted to do with my life. So it was fun, though. I would go back.

[Phil]

Well, so you're honest when you said, okay, I just guessed it. What, I was going to end up doing this. You're honest.

[Si]

You just go do something.

[Phil]

You asked the teacher that if I wish I'd been there to ask you a question.

[Hunter]

Oh, man. I was.

[Phil]

No, no. I asked my. I asked my algebra teacher. I said, okay, here, I got a question for you there.

[Hunter]

We're back at math.

[Phil]

Yeah, yeah. And he said, what? I said, okay. I said, I probably will be a laborer

[Hunter]

skilled.

[Phil]

Okay, no. And I said, how am I going to use algebra in my job?

[Martin]

Algebra.

[Phil]

If I like, I'm a pipe fitter. Okay. How am I going to use algebra?

[Hunter]

Pipe fitting is all math.

[Phil]

You don't know.

[Hunter]

Pipe fitting is way more math.

[Phil]

You know what he told me?

[Hunter]

Music.

[Phil]

Hey. You know what he told.

[Martin]

He just exploded.

[Phil]

You know what he told me? He said, I can't answer that question.

[Si]

He didn't know what pipe fitting was.

[Hunter]

Yeah, pipe fitting is 100 math, sir.

[Phil]

And then I'd asked another one. I said, okay, wait a minute. I said, Yo, I spent 12 years going to school.

[Si]

That's good.

[Phil]

From one to 12. Okay, great.

[Hunter]

You skipped kindergarten.

[Phil]

No, I didn't go to kindergarten.

[Si]

But anyway, that's a shame. They got nap time.

[Phil]

If you're an educational person, you actually, once you graduate from high school, the next step is you go to college.

[Si]

Allegedly.

[Phil]

Depending on what you. You study to become maybe four to like eight years, Especially if you get a master and a BA Took me that long.

[Hunter]

And I didn't.

[Phil]

Okay. You know, and I asked the same question. I said, what am I going to do? I said, because here's. Here's what I'm fighting right now. I've got friends that have graduated two years ahead of me.

[Si]

Mm.

[Phil]

Okay. They went to college. They've got two degrees in two years. Yeah. And I said, and guess what?

[Martin]

His friends are accelerated.

[Phil]

Guess what? They're working. And guess what they hear when they go and apply for a job.

[Martin]

I'm nervous.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Martin]

I don't know.

[Phil]

Is that I'm sorry, sir or ma', am, I can't use you. You're too educated.

[Si]

You're overqualified.

[Phil]

My question is, why do you want to get an education if all they gonna do is tell you you're too educated?

[Si]

If you're stressed about getting out of debt, it is go time. Seriously, this is one of the moments where timing actually matters. Because you know what? It's a new year and nobody wants to be stuck in debt. Look, Done with debt is one of the best I've seen at navigating debt relief. 2025 was a record year. They enrolled over $102 million in debt. For our listeners and others, and this is why I'm telling you this now. According to the Federal Reserve's latest, banks have tightened their standards and right now may be your best window to negotiate settlements before lenders tighten even further. Look, Dunwood Debt tracks credit card company and loan behavior. They're experienced at knowing who is negotiating and when. So Whether you're carrying 10,000 or 500,000 in debt, this may be the best chance you'll get all year long. Do not wait for the lenders to tighten up their policies because everybody loses. Look, all you have to do is schedule a free consultation. There's no pressure and it only takes a few minutes. Share who you owe and they'll tell you if this is the moment you could see a major reduction in your debt. Never really struggled with debt, thank goodness. But if I did this, I would call them so fast because it's easy, it's free. Why wouldn't you try? You. Nobody wants to be buried under the weight of debt. But let's get out of it. Look, imagine waking up without the weight on your shoulders and doing it without taking out another loan or filing for bankruptcy. Done with debt helps you take through the debt relief process so you keep more of your paycheck every month. Go to dwithdebt.com right now. That's donewithdebt.com. You know, I was at NWTF this weekend and there's a lot of kids that listen to us. Yeah, a lot of kids what listen to us.

[Phil]

No, no, no. Look, I'm just. Hey, I'm just stating facts, okay?

[Martin]

Doubling down.

[Phil]

Well, I'm just stating facts because look, college is not for every child.

[Si]

No, truth, truth, truth.

[Phil]

Because, hey, look, this world was just stop. If it wasn't for the people that. Hey. Are ringing up the cells, okay?

[Si]

Sweeping out the cages that you ordered,

[Martin]

flushing the shiners, okay?

[Hunter]

How would we ever get a live

[Phil]

shot making the dead cricket and shiners out of the.

[Hunter]

That's just how I start my day.

[Phil]

It's not you Know. I'm just saying. Okay. No, here's why. Okay.

[Si]

But. But you need to finish one through 12.

[Phil]

Well, no, no.

[Martin]

Yeah. Finish high school.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Here's why. Okay. I did not do well in college. Oh boy.

[Martin]

Okay.

[Phil]

No, no, no, no. This is serious.

[Hunter]

I'm listening.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Si]

Too many.

[Phil]

I was. No, no. Okay.

[Darwin]

Yes.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Si]

Yes.

[Phil]

The male species. Okay.

[Si]

All right.

[Phil]

Are it takes them longer to. To mature. Yeah.

[Si]

They're female. Absolutely.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Si]

Takes you 26 years.

[Phil]

I was immature. Okay. That's why I didn't do good in college.

[Hunter]

Self awareness goes further than most things.

[Martin]

Yep.

[Phil]

So like I, you know, I against education.

[Si]

Just out of curiosity's.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Si]

When did you mature?

[Phil]

I haven't.

[Si]

Okay. I just wondered if you ever got to a point you were like, you know what I mean?

[Phil]

That is me being honest also.

[Si]

Yeah. I was wondering if you're like, you know what? I made it. I'm finally.

[Martin]

Is it self inflicted?

[Phil]

No, no, no. I don't think I' immature. How come those adult adulthood does not interest me. Okay. You are boring. Once you reach adult.

[Martin]

When did most people.

[Hunter]

I'm an adult. I'm not boring.

[Phil]

Yeah, you are. I'll just stay. I'll just stay a child.

[Martin]

Yeah. With adult responsibility.

[Phil]

Look, it ain't for me.

[Martin]

When did you figure that out? When did you figure that out? Like that decision.

[Phil]

Trying to figure out.

[Martin]

I'm saying did you make that decision at like 25 or you were just like.

[Phil]

Well, no, because here's the thing. Adults are not any fun.

[Si]

Right.

[Martin]

I'm saying when did you discover that?

[Phil]

Okay.

[Martin]

When did you discover that?

[Phil]

Long time ago.

[Martin]

I didn't know. If there's like a defining moment in your life.

[Si]

Graduation day at boot camp.

[Phil]

You need to look at me and really look at me. Open your mind and read. Really look at me and see me for what I am.

[Hunter]

I've done that for.

[Phil]

Oh, okay.

[Martin]

I've seen.

[Si]

I'm about a. I still can't make sense of what I see.

[Phil]

Trapped in a 78 year old.

[Martin]

14 year old. You didn't even get to 16.

[Hunter]

No, I seen him drive.

[Martin]

Well, I remember the bridge end it.

[Phil]

See, that proves to you that males are. It takes them a long time to mature.

[Hunter]

Pretty small.

[Martin]

You never even. So you never even got to fully develop then if you stopped at 14.

[Phil]

Oh, no, I hadn't. I had.

[Si]

No, you fully developed. Hammer, you got two kids. Biologically speaking, my friend, you have fully developed.

[Hunter]

I almost asked them if they wanted me to bring side and I'm pretty sure I'M they're glad. They're glad I didn't. At this point.

[Phil]

They are.

[Si]

The dropout rate would have been high.

[Phil]

We would have had a. We would have a big time on.

[Hunter]

Oh, I had fun.

[Martin]

You would have had them debating music, math the whole time.

[Hunter]

I mean, I'm music, math.

[Phil]

Here's what's. Here's what's so funny about this. I was on unashamed early this morning.

[Martin]

Huh?

[Phil]

Okay.

[Si]

Oh, that's why you so wound up.

[Phil]

Both mentioned my daughter and said, no, something's wrong here, you know, And I said, well, I said, I understand. I said, because I had to. My daughter told me, called me one time, said, you, I want you to call me tomorrow. You've got to talk to my student. Oh, boy. Okay. Because they was talking in her classroom when she was walking around Proof of Life. And they was talking about Duck Dynasty. And then they said, well, miss, I can't even think of her husband's last name anyway.

[Si]

Coburn.

[Phil]

Huh?

[Si]

Coburn.

[Phil]

Coburn. Yeah. Mrs. Coburn.

[Si]

How do I know your daughter's last name and you don't?

[Phil]

They was talking about Doug Dante. And when they said, well, you know, they said something about me. And Tracer said, no, I don't watch it. That's my dad.

[Si]

You know, Scott's last name. I couldn't help myself.

[Hunter]

He got hung up there.

[Phil]

Y' all may laugh now, but hey, this is coming your way too, buddy.

[Hunter]

Oh, Tracy. Oh, what's your face?

[Phil]

My daughter forget things. Okay. But anyway, they said, tracy. So I had to call her and talk to the kids and say, hey, yeah, that's my daughter. And Al and Jason, Bo said, no, no, that's something wrong. I said, well, look, the theory is that it was babies were switched when she was in the hospital. And Jason, that's what I figured. Somewhere in Germany there's a lady. Lady figuring out, hey, I don't fit in with just these people.

[Hunter]

There's some crazy redneck lady, Germany, speaking

[Si]

German, walking around, rolling her pizzas up.

[Hunter]

She got 12 teeth.

[Martin]

That's a full denture.

[Si]

Here, you better send it to Missouri.

[Phil]

Number one, I told Tracer, I said. I said, tracy, look, number one, you're drop dead beautiful. I said, then number two, you're very highly intelligent. And I said, when I look in the mirror, I don't see either one of them in my. In the mirror.

[Si]

Well, what about. Nevermind, I ain't even gonna get you in this kind of trouble.

[Phil]

Oh, don't even go down that road.

[Si]

I don't Know, I was gonna say, well, what about Christine? But I just want you to have to answer that.

[Phil]

So that's my. My point. She got the brains from her mother.

[Martin]

Okay, so you just don't know if you're the dad, huh?

[Si]

Well, she definitely come out of Christine.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Si]

We can't confirm.

[Martin]

We can confirm that.

[Hunter]

That is ridiculous.

[Phil]

Well, that's another thing, too. She was a miracle baby. And so was Scotch.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Si]

No tracer. Robertson.

[Phil]

Don't let him fool you through and through.

[Si]

Yes.

[Phil]

That's why I wanted to tell you.

[Si]

And you see a cobra.

[Phil]

Now, don't worry about it. If you're meant to have kids, hey, he'll take care of it.

[Martin]

It'll happen.

[Phil]

You'll take care of it. Don't worry about it. Oh, man.

[Hunter]

Well, I didn't know Career Day was going to get you that excited, but it was fun.

[Martin]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

I did tell. I did. One kid asked me directly, does he actually need a degree to be successful?

[Si]

No.

[Phil]

No. Well, no, no, because here's the whole thing you got.

[Si]

All you need is work ethic.

[Phil]

It's really amazing.

[Hunter]

I only had a minute, so I had to fly through it. But I said, no. I said, but that piece of paper means something to somebody because it means you can finish things. And I said, and I'm gonna be honest with all y'. All. I will say, none of you kids know how to finish anything you started.

[Phil]

Well, no, no. Because I will say this.

[Si]

There it is.

[Phil]

The degree the paper they give you, okay. It will get you in doors that without it, you won't go through.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

Especially if you were the three people sitting next to me that all needed notifications.

[Si]

It just proved it proves that you're willing to stick it out.

[Hunter]

That was my point.

[Phil]

Phil said it. Okay. And he had two degrees.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Phil]

He said, I understand why you didn't. You didn't do good in college. He said, all. All it is, is an endurance test.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Phil]

And you just said, to heck with the endurance. I ain't putting up with.

[Hunter]

So I can you.

[Phil]

That's a. It's a good point.

[Si]

But you gave your country 24 and a half years, which is.

[Hunter]

But he did take a nap every day, but.

[Si]

24 and a half.

[Phil]

Hey, that's one thing that. Hey. I think I probably is the only human being that has spent 24 and a half years in the military and got a nap every day of my life.

[Hunter]

Every.

[Si]

But that's more impressive. 24 and a half years in the military. Way more impressive than a four year

[Martin]

piece of paper, definitely.

[Si]

Oh, well. And the fact that you're as together as you are is incredible.

[Phil]

Well, no, no, that's the amazing part.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Okay. Because I'm watching kids because that's one of the best things about getting old. When you get old, you have the time to sit and watch and observe. Think about all this junk going on.

[Si]

Right.

[Phil]

Okay. Because it's totally amazing to see these kids, you know, go from a little child to a grown young woman or a grown young man. It's an amazing process. It really, really is. And you just.

[Si]

You've watched me grow up. Are you impressed?

[Phil]

No. No. Well, no, no, I have. Yeah. Like me, when me and you met,

[Si]

I was about 3, 15.

[Hunter]

Yeah. You didn't grow up.

[Phil]

You.

[Hunter]

You shrank down, but you got more mature.

[Martin]

You were already grown.

[Si]

Big girl. Extra big. Grown. When you have kids, things change, right? Your perspective shifts. You start thinking, what. What happens if I'm not here tomorrow? And that's where Ethos comes in, man. Ethos makes getting life insurance fast and easy because it's 100% online. You can get a quote in seconds. You can apply minutes and get same day coverage. You know the cool part? No medical exam. You just have to answer a few simple health questions, and you can get up to $3 million in coverage. And some policies are as low as 30 bucks a month. And Ethos has a 4.8 out of 5 stars on Trustpilot with over 3,000 reviews. You protect your family every day, right? You got security systems. You got cameras. You got. You make them wear a seatbelt, for crying out loud. You got guns in your house in case somebody else. Protecting your family financially ain't no different than protecting them from anything else. I mean, it's the responsible thing to do. Right now. Godwin's worried about protecting grandkids.

[Phil]

That's right.

[Hunter]

You got to protect them.

[Si]

Got to protect all of them. Look, help protect your family with life insurance through Ethos. Get your instant free quote at ethos.com/. That's E T H O S.com ethos.com/. Application times and rates may vary.

[Phil]

This is for all the kids out there.

[Martin]

All the.

[Phil]

Oh, Enjoy being a kid.

[Si]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Phil]

Don't. Don't rush it. Enjoy being kids, especially with your friends. And. Hey, and my. My prayer for you is, y' all take care of each other. Don't let no more. None of you, your buddies, and none of your friends get on drugs or alcohol or none of these. All this bad junk. Yeah. Take care of each other.

[Si]

Love each other, check in on each

[Phil]

other, you know, and, hey, hold each other accountable.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Phil]

For how you act.

[Si]

Amen, buddy.

[Phil]

And don't be a follower, because usually if you're just a follower, they'll lead you astray.

[Martin]

Right.

[Phil]

You be the one that leads. You know, my mama told me that when I was young. And it was. It was good advice.

[Si]

There you go. There's sage advice, age advice.

[Phil]

And, hey, look, especially.

[Si]

He should have went to career day.

[Hunter]

He's turned it around.

[Phil]

The beginning of life was, well, what your kid. You kids are up against today.

[Hunter]

Look what you doing to my phone.

[Phil]

And I'll say this. This thing was invented to be. It was a good invention.

[Si]

Oh, cell phone.

[Phil]

But here's. Here's the thing. The human race has a bad problem of taking good stuff and then uses it for evil purposes.

[Si]

Yeah, I was using mine.

[Phil]

This is one of those things. Things. You've got the world at your fingertips with this thing.

[Si]

Hey, look at there.

[Phil]

You know, you can get into anything bad or good with this silly thing. Okay. And that goes back with me personally. You know, I told you I was immature. Still am. Okay, don't be like me. Mature. Mature. Okay. Grow. Grow with the times as. As it should. Know what you be told nowadays,

[Hunter]

my

[Phil]

challenge to you is, hey, take care. Take care of each other, and then love each other, you know, and hold everybody. Hold each other accountable.

[Hunter]

They got like four more days of career Day if you want me to get you a spot out. No.

[Si]

Oh, I bet they got an opening that may.

[Hunter]

We'll just go sit out there and see if somebody know shows.

[Si]

I was looking for another message. Said, you see what I just got? I just sent you what I was just in my inbox. That's funny.

[Hunter]

That's fun. Yeah, we'll hold that one close to the chest. Y' all have to.

[Si]

I'm invited to fish a celebrity pro am bass tournament.

[Hunter]

Look at you. Are you a celebrity?

[Si]

I'm certainly not a pro. I'm not going to dare call myself a celebrity, but I've definitely fall in the amount category of that. The Pro Am something. Oh, man. Maybe I'll go to Knoxville. Look there.

[Phil]

There you go.

[Si]

Back from Tennessee. There you go. Wouldn't that be fun?

[Martin]

Brittany would like likes old Knoxville.

[Si]

Man, Knoxville's a long ways away.

[Martin]

She bleeds that orange, don't she?

[Si]

Oh, yeah, she does. I saw. I didn't realize this year that LSU plays Tennessee. Tennessee.

[Hunter]

You going?

[Si]

No, I haven't broke that to her yet.

[Phil]

Oh, boy.

[Si]

I mean, I Want to go. But somebody's gonna have to provide Transport because I'm 99 sure it will be opening day of duck season.

[Hunter]

Oh, yes. You ain't gonna.

[Phil]

He ain't gonna miss that.

[Si]

And I will gladly send her. I will let you go and I will watch from here.

[Hunter]

But hey, these are great.

[Si]

I ain't missing though.

[Martin]

These are great.

[Si]

I would miss day two. I ain't missing day one.

[Hunter]

You ain't missing day one.

[Si]

Day two, no problem. But day one is what you work all, all spring and summer for, so.

[Hunter]

All right, well, we have a. We have an email.

[Si]

Yeah, I was looking for one. I just remember somebody sent me something they wanted side to wish their, their daughter a happy birthday.

[Hunter]

Happy birthday. But you know, if it's you.

[Si]

Well, they had, they had run through some tough times with a high school.

[Hunter]

He doesn't.

[Si]

That's what I'm trying to find, man. I've been tagged in so much stuff since this weekend. I'm looking.

[Hunter]

He's lost it.

[Si]

Okay, well, while you're looking for that, keep going.

[Hunter]

The upstate of South Carolina is in a bind.

[Si]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil]

I don't even like the title of this.

[Hunter]

I don't either, because I don't think it's true.

[Phil]

No, it's something wrong with that title.

[Hunter]

There's something majorly wrong. Greg in South Carolina sins Our pizza sucks.

[Si]

Whoa. What?

[Hunter]

Greg, that's not true. Yeah, we need to establish this. I've never had a bad pizza.

[Si]

I've definitely had some better than others.

[Hunter]

That's true. But all pizza is good.

[Phil]

Pizza. All pizza is good.

[Si]

As long as you don't try to like, start putting fruit and.

[Hunter]

Yeah, I mean, that's not pizza. Yeah, if it's, if it's bread, red stuff, cheese and pepperoni, it's good. Yeah, I don't care how you do it. Yeah, but he's tired of all the pizza change and all that stuff and he wants me to ship him a pizza. Greg, that's impossible. I'm not that talented.

[Phil]

Yeah, because it wouldn't be worth this. About time we got to you.

[Hunter]

But how in the world can there not be like a Domino's up there?

[Si]

Wait, didn't he just say he's tired of all the chains? He must not like that stuff.

[Phil]

Domino's or where's.

[Hunter]

Yeah, there's not a Johnny's in South Carolina.

[Si]

Where? He's in upstate South.

[Hunter]

You think Johnny's is everywhere?

[Phil]

Well, hey, yeah, I thought it was everywhere.

[Martin]

That's a Louisiana thing.

[Hunter]

I think there's A couple in Texas, I think.

[Si]

Oh, I wonder if it was on my personal page.

[Phil]

I can't believe they Johnny's Pizza in South Carolina. Well, no, they ain't just 20th century boys.

[Si]

Well, I'm sure they would.

[Hunter]

This is the 20th century.

[Si]

Oh, there it is.

[Phil]

Let's go. Let's.

[Hunter]

Anyway, Greg, I wish I could send you a pizza, but I think you're kind of being picky about pizza because all pizza is good. I don't know about all pizza.

[Si]

It doesn't say how old she is, but her name's Ellie May.

[Phil]

You say, hey, Ellie May. Happy birthday, baby.

[Si]

There you go. All right. Look at there.

[Phil]

And may you have many, many, many, many, many more.

[Hunter]

Many, many, many. And then Sam from Charlotte, North Carolina, emails in.

[Phil]

Okay. We in the caca lax, boy.

[Hunter]

We in the Cackalax today. And you know, we've all. We've talked weight loss a lot on this show because you've seen hashtag better decisions. Yeah. You've seen my yo yo of a life go up and down in this chair.

[Si]

You know what happens when he gets a flu at the convention? You lose six pounds in a weekend.

[Hunter]

There you start. But my man Sam emails in and he has lost over 50 pounds and just wanted to thank us. But my favorite part of this, bravo for him. Apparently we met at some point and he came by the shop and he gave me a bunch of Reese's eggs, which is, is. Is a. A great way to not lose weight, but they're very delicious.

[Si]

Also, feel free to drop those off again.

[Hunter]

Pretty sure I was supposed to bring those here.

[Si]

Yeah, pretty. But that's. Now you've got some accountability because you send in pictures so I can appreciate.

[Hunter]

Hey, I'm not. I probably told you about them, but I told you where to eat them.

[Si]

Yeah, you probably asked me come sit at the table up there and eat them, which I. I will do. I got more time on my hands these days.

[Hunter]

Yeah, he's not open.

[Phil]

You need to talk somebody you need

[Si]

to call al Robinson about PhD weight loss. Yeah, about one goblins on week two of.

[Phil]

I don't know, God was on it now. Yeah. Because I dropped about.

[Si]

If Goblin gets Back to like 1972 Goblin, where he was racing motocross and all that. I'm gonna. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

[Hunter]

I want to jump.

[Si]

I'm gonna be very happy for him, but I just hope he doesn't lose his cuddly nature. Sometimes when big people get, get, get skinny, they lose their cuddly nature. I just hope it don't change.

[Phil]

Oh, no.

[Hunter]

I know plenty of people I liked way more when they were fat.

[Si]

That.

[Hunter]

Yeah, that's just the truth. That's a hard truth of life. Some people lose their joy.

[Si]

Yeah.

[Martin]

Just part of it.

[Si]

They become obsessed with that end of it and lose focus on whatever it is. Oh, I got a Bible verse. Oh, hey.

[Hunter]

My job just got easier getting us out of here.

[Si]

Jacob, let's get biblical.

[Martin]

Yeah, well, Jeremy. Jeremy Mater sent this to me. He's a guy. He's a law enforcement guy with Homeland Security, but he. I told him I'd use it, so. It's Isaiah 41:13. It's the NIV version. It says, for I am the Lord your God, who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, do not fear. I will help you.

[Si]

Amen.

[Martin]

So, yeah, amen. That's a good one.

[Si]

Amen to that. Hey, here I am. Yeah.

[Martin]

So shout out Jeremy for sending that one.

[Si]

Oh, all right. Well, we'll see y' all next time, right here in the duck call room. We're out.

[Phil]

We should do this again sometimes, Sam.