Uncle Si Clashes with Oregon’s New Attack on Freedom

Summary

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Duck Call Room: Uncle Si Clashes with Oregon’s New Attack on Freedom

Hosts: Si Robertson, Justin Martin (Hunter), John-David Owen, John Godwin, Jay Stone, Phillip McMillan, Jacob Mayo
Date: June 9, 2026
Episode Theme:
The crew gathers to catch up on summertime family road trips, small town food reviews, concerts, and country living before diving into a passionate, humorous, and sometimes fired-up discussion of Oregon’s controversial proposed “Peace Act”—a ballot measure seeking to make hunting, fishing, and animal farming illegal. The episode centers on rural values, hunting/fishing culture, and the pushback against perceived “city” overreach into traditional freedoms.

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Episode Overview

• The episode opens with the crew swapping stories of summer adventures: fishing trips, BBQ joints, and hometown observations.
• Main focus shifts to the dramatic Oregon ballot initiative that could ban all hunting, fishing, and animal husbandry in the state.
• The hosts react with disbelief, concern for rural traditions, economic consequences, and inject their trademark humor and pointed critiques.
• They wrap with reflections on stewardship of nature, faith, and the “cycle of life.”

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Key Discussion Points

1. Small Town Summer Adventures (01:01–10:03)

• Hunter recounts a fishing trip in Alabama and excitement about finding a rare Shoney’s.
• Dustin talks about rafting with his family in Yaleville, Arkansas, and discovering “Black Sheep Barbecue,” raving about a brisket smash burger and homemade fried okra.
  • “That place was fire…The burger was called the Whole Cow.” (06:08, Dustin)
• The crew exchanges classic southern food talk, with recurring jokes about okra, fried catfish, and gumbo.
• They joke about the rapid growth of their own towns: “We might as well be New York City” (03:58, Dustin).
• Touch on a Forest Frank Christian concert—family-friendly, fun, but unexpected beer sales:
  • “Best part about this concert. Beer line so short.” (11:08, Casey at the urinal)
  • Reflections on “legalism,” beer at Christian events, and culture clashes among denominations.

2. Values, Faith, and Family (10:03–21:00)

• Conversation circles around Christian music, intergenerational concert-going, and raising kids with positive influences.
• Ben weighs in on biblical perspectives on alcohol, noting there's “nowhere in God's word you can't have alcohol…He don't say overindulge.” (15:28, Ben)
• Reminiscing about growing up listening to bands like Skillet, discussing the meaning of worship, and keeping faith relevant for the next generation.

3. Social Media, Politics, & Chicken Salad (21:00–22:14)

• Jokes about Senator John Kennedy’s viral chicken salad videos.
• Shameless plug for listeners to recruit Kennedy to guest on the podcast.

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Main Topic: The Oregon “Peace Act” – Is This Freedom Under Attack? (22:15–49:09)

What is the Peace Act?

Dustin breaks huge news: a November ballot initiative in Oregon (the “Peace Act”) has enough signatures to be voted on by the public. It would make all hunting, fishing, or harming/killing animals for any reason (including farming, ranching, or even collecting eggs) illegal.

• "It would make hunting, fishing, hurting any animal for any reason illegal." (22:46, Dustin)
• “Do what?” (23:05, Hunter)

Immediate Reactions: Disbelief, Outrage, and Rural Defense

• Hosts are incredulous at the idea, poking at city vs. country dynamics:
  • “If you reside in Portland, might I offer you a chance to go out to your countryside and tell me which one is better? …One of them is trash.” (25:38, Hunter)
• Real, practical concerns:
  • 330,000 licensed hunters in Oregon
  • 500,000 licensed fishermen
  • The act would devastate local economies tied to wildlife, outdoor recreation, and even food production.
• “How many people have jobs that depend on hunting, fishing and loving every day?” (27:15, Dustin)
• The measure would criminalize not just hunting and fishing, but also raising livestock, collecting eggs, or harvesting meat.
  • “If you raise chickens and you collect their eggs?” “Illegal.” (26:32, Guest; 26:36, Dustin)

Economic Impacts

• Oregon’s outdoor industry is massive:
  • "$1.2 billion in spending and over 11,000 jobs.” (30:12, Dustin)
  • “That’s your economy we’re talking about here.” (30:27, Ben)
• The paradox: city-dwelling activists risking the very environmental funding rural Oregon relies upon.

Cycle of Life, Stewardship & Faith Perspectives

• The crew leans hard into “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
  • "You're messing with my life, you're messing with my liberty, and you're messing with my pursuit of happiness." (31:22, Ben)
• They point out that all eating involves death—whether animal or plant.
  • “When you pull that carrot up out of the ground…you just killed it.” (37:36, Ben)
• Biblical citations—God’s command to “arise, kill, and eat” (38:48, Ben), dominion over the earth, stewardship in Genesis.
• “God made me a steward of what we’re talking about.” (39:01, Ben)
• Argument that hunters and fishermen are often the most passionate conservationists.

Slippery Slope & Outlaw Mentality

• Concerns about turning regular Oregonians into "outlaws" if the measure passed.
  • “You’re going to turn them into outlaws. Oh, they’re still going to do it.” (35:13, Ben)
• Predictions of chaos, unemployment, and food insecurity if animal agriculture is banned.
• “If I couldn’t move, then I did go outlaw.” (44:59, Ben)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “For somebody to eat, something’s got to die—and that goes for all of them…That is life.” (41:06–41:17, Hunter & Ben)
• “Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You’re messing with all three.” (31:22, Ben)
• “They have put the bluegill on the level of humans—is the problem.” (40:08, Dustin)
• “The people that made this petition died from dysentery for sure—guaranteed!” (42:42, Hunter, riffing on Oregon Trail)
• "If you're wondering to know where the money comes from that takes care of that wildlife, where the people that—that sign—if it wasn't for the license sales, then all this wildlife that you think you're protecting is about to go grossly underserved." (29:42–29:59, Hunter)
• “We're in charge, not the fish.” (57:28, Ben, quoting Genesis)

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Fun Sidebars & Subplots

• Discussion of small-town food gems in the South, from Shoney’s to Black Sheep Barbecue (“the Whole Cow” burger) to fried okra recipes.
• Debates about the best fish for eating—crappie (white perch), bluegill, catfish ("mustard fried, baby"), and comparisons to ocean fish.
• Running jokes about city smells (“Portland is garbage”—26:14), and “life on the road.”
• Shoutouts to social media favorites (‘The NODR’ from Oregon), Skillet, and Christian concerts.
• Brief aside about a “Donald Trump” buffalo in Bangladesh (43:04), riffing on viral weird news.

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Segment Timestamps For Key Moments

• 01:01–10:03: Summer family trips, fishing, small-town BBQ, Christian concerts
• 22:15–49:09: Main: Discussion of Oregon’s “Peace Act”—details, shock, economic/freedom concerns, rural vs. urban divide
• 40:08–42:44: The “cycle of life,” bluegills at human level, biblical/conservation arguments
• 53:01–55:09: Favorite fish to eat, regional food habits, more on fishing culture

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Tone & Takeaways

• Authentic, rural American voice: Humor, storytelling, and blunt honesty throughout.
• Defensive of traditions: Strong pushback on measures perceived as attacks on rural freedoms and self-reliance.
• Faith-rooted perspective: Reliance on biblical text for both humor and grounding of arguments.
• Community-minded: Repeated encouragement for Oregonians and outdoorsmen to stand up and vote, plus empathy for “the fine folks” facing these policies.

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Final Thoughts

The Duck Call Room crew delivers an episode that’s equal parts road-trip storytelling, blue-collar comedy, and earnest defense of rural freedoms in the face of what they see as coastal overreach. With plenty of food talk, faith, and good-natured ribbing, the crew ultimately calls for common sense and respect for the cycle of life—ending just as much with a grin as a battle cry.

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Memorable Closing Quote:
“We got orders from headquarters, boys. We’re in charge, not the fish.” (57:28, Ben)

Transcript

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[Ben]

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[Hunter]

Welcome back to the duck call room, ladies and gentlemen. We are back. We have nobody here because everybody's busy. It's summertime, Vacations are going. But you got us three. I know y' all missed us on the last one with our buddy John Chris, but, you know, the boss come in and handled our light work, so that's good.

[Dustin]

Hunter, did they make fun of us while we were.

[Guest]

I mean, like the tiniest bit. Yeah, See, Chris made fun of y' all way more then.

[Hunter]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Dustin]

That's fine.

[Hunter]

Yeah, John. But John's a comedian, so he should. And we're.

[Dustin]

What did he say about us?

[Hunter]

We're low hanging fruit.

[Guest]

That y' all wouldn't let him talk about his Mennonite heritage.

[Hunter]

I've actually supported that very much.

[Guest]

That could have been a joke.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Did he. Did he. Did he talk about his new web series Springfield first at all?

[Dustin]

Not once.

[Guest]

I was kind of disappointed in that, man.

[Hunter]

If y' all are listening to this and you ain't. See, if you're not on Instagram, you need to be because you need to go watch his little miniseries on Springfield first. It's. It is good. Where he makes fun of.

[Dustin]

Is that what you do on Instagram,

[Ben]

make fun of people?

[Hunter]

No, no,

[Dustin]

Watch that thing.

[Hunter]

Yeah, well, he's wearing that shirt. Where, by the way, what is that shirt and why is it awesome?

[Ben]

It's the red, white and blue is all I tell you.

[Hunter]

Is it a tuxedo shirt?

[Ben]

No, no. Short sleeve.

[Hunter]

Hold on. I know, but is it supposed to be like a suit?

[Ben]

Hey, I don't know. Somebody sent it. Now, he said, I wish you'd wear it on the podcast. So.

[Hunter]

And there you go. He do. Hey, America, going to be it's that simple.

[Dustin]

What you send size something. He'll wear it as long, especially for the semi quincentennial.

[Hunter]

As long as it's. As long as it's comfortable, he'll wear it. That's for sure.

[Ben]

And this is comfortable.

[Hunter]

I do have an update. Look, I was just in Lower Alabama. I had to drive over and. And work with my folks at Realtree, pick up a new truck. But while I was there, I went fishing with my buddy dc. He's been on here for Dustin Connell. So I get off at his exit to go to his house to meet him to go fishing. You know what they got? Johnny D. A Shoney's. They had a Shoney.

[Dustin]

They had it. Where's he live?

[Hunter]

Clanton, Alabama, baby. Clanton, Alabama, off of Interstate 65 has got a Shoney. So for anybody looking for one, my hours of which I was there just did not line up for me to enjoy a fine meal at the Shoney's. But I will say Friday and Saturday night are steak and seafood buffet, so.

[Dustin]

Well, you know what I drove past this weekend?

[Hunter]

What?

[Dustin]

A western sizzling. No, I saw a billboard. It said on the right. The billboard was on the right. It said ahead on left, Western sizzling. I wasn't driving, however. And Allison just kept going.

[Hunter]

He kept zipping. Huh?

[Dustin]

It was somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Arkansas.

[Hunter]

Okay.

[Dustin]

Somewhere between Conway and Yaleville. There it is. It was the western sizzling below. Clinton, Arkansas.

[Hunter]

Okay. Clinton, Arkansas. That's interesting, because I would consider us a small town, and ours are.

[Dustin]

We're not a small town anymore. We're not discovered that.

[Ben]

We're.

[Dustin]

We're like. We might as well be New York City.

[Ben]

100 grand a small.

[Hunter]

Is that. Was that. What we got now is 100 once

[Dustin]

you add West Monroe and Monroe together. We're from the big city.

[Hunter]

Really?

[Dustin]

Have you ever been to Yaleville, Arkansas?

[Hunter]

Never heard of it. Have I driven through it?

[Dustin]

I don't.

[Hunter]

Where is it?

[Dustin]

Somewhere by the Buffalo River.

[Hunter]

Oh.

[Dustin]

We asked our little driver. That was taken.

[Ben]

We.

[Dustin]

We recently floated the river for the kid. The kids wanted to do that.

[Hunter]

Oh, to Buffalo.

[Dustin]

Oh, yeah.

[Hunter]

How was that? Y' all catch any?

[Dustin]

We didn't fish.

[Hunter]

Didn't fit. You on a tackle shop and you didn't fish?

[Dustin]

I was paddling five other human beings up a river.

[Ben]

What.

[Dustin]

How am I supposed to accomplish.

[Ben]

Oh, y' all want. Y' all was canoeing on the Buffalo?

[Dustin]

Well, it was too high to canoe, and it was for experienced floaters only, so I was like, well, we're not that. Turns out I think I am, because I could have canoed that just fine.

[Hunter]

Y' all floated just fine.

[Dustin]

Oh, yeah. We had, like, a giant raft.

[Hunter]

Oh, okay.

[Dustin]

And I don't know if you've met my children. Not a lot of help.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

So I'm.

[Hunter]

Well, Ben's ain't tall enough to see over the edge of the raft if it's one of them Biggins. Yeah.

[Dustin]

So I'm by myself.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

So I was like, I'm not even gonna try.

[Hunter]

Was it rough?

[Dustin]

No.

[Hunter]

Was the water cold? Yeah.

[Dustin]

But then we asked our little driver who takes us up. We're like, well, what do you got to eat up here? He's like, well, there's three restaurants, right? Yeah. We had the pizza place last night. And he was like, big news. Forgot about that one. There's four restaurants.

[Hunter]

Okay. How was the pizza place? Good, good. Solid pizza.

[Dustin]

Solid pizza.

[Hunter]

Okay.

[Dustin]

Can't complain. They had a Mexican place and two barbecue places.

[Hunter]

Okay.

[Dustin]

And when I tell y' all that we went to this barbecue place called the Black Sheep Barbecue in Yaleville, Arkansas.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

It's worth driving there.

[Hunter]

Really?

[Dustin]

I got a hamburger. It was two smash burgers with brisket between the smash burgers.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah. Brisket between two burgers.

[Dustin]

Did I not send you the picture?

[Hunter]

You did, but I. I missed the brisket.

[Dustin]

Oh, there's brisket.

[Hunter]

There's brisket in between. I just saw the hamburger and, like, was it tater tots or something?

[Dustin]

Those were French fries.

[Hunter]

French fries.

[Dustin]

Oh, yeah.

[Hunter]

I'm just trying to go off memory here.

[Dustin]

Look at this. I'll zoom in on it for you. That's brisket all in there. And that place was fire.

[Hunter]

Really?

[Dustin]

They're just in population, like, maybe 72.

[Hunter]

Did you go. Did you get it to go? Like, did you go back? Or were y' all just.

[Dustin]

No, it was last night. Carter ate a whole rack of ribs.

[Hunter]

Okay.

[Dustin]

We had to wheel that boy out of there.

[Hunter]

Okay. Ice cream.

[Dustin]

No, they had cheesecake.

[Hunter]

Cheesecake also.

[Dustin]

Phenomenal. I'm going to leave them. I'm going to Google review them while I'm thinking about it. But, yeah, if you're ever in Yaleville, Arkansas, highly recommended. Cool vibe.

[Hunter]

They.

[Dustin]

They had gun smoke on the tv. You would have loved it.

[Hunter]

So I said, it passes my barbecue and gun smoke right there. Look. Hey. And I ate in Auburn, Alabama, at one of my favorite places. It's a definite stop if you're in Auburn. Place called Bow and Arrow, it's barbecue. I never heard of it, buddy. But just. If you go to Auburn, go to Bow and Arrow. It's so good. I'm sad that I'm six and a half hours away from it. That's. That's how sad I am.

[Ben]

Black Sheep Barbecue.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

There.

[Hunter]

Get Black Sheep Barbecue and Bow and Arrow. There you go. That's the. I can. I can sign off on bow and arrow 110%. It is so good, man.

[Dustin]

The burger was called the Whole Cow.

[Hunter]

Well, that makes sense because you got his booty in the ground round and you got his chest in the brisket. So that checks out. That's all of him.

[Dustin]

Carter said five stars for the ribs.

[Hunter]

Five stars.

[Dustin]

Ben's ate fish. They had fried catfish. He gave it five stars. Everybody was very happy.

[Hunter]

What'd your wife eat?

[Ben]

She.

[Dustin]

Their fried okra. You know how most you go get fried okra and we all know what it is.

[Hunter]

It's the same bag of okra picked sweet or whatever this was. They did it themselves.

[Dustin]

It was another level somewhere.

[Hunter]

Okay.

[Dustin]

It was so good.

[Hunter]

What was it battered in? You remember, like cornmeal or flour, but it was good.

[Dustin]

Yeah, that's what I remember.

[Hunter]

I love ochre. I was looking at mom's ochre plants in the garden this morning, man. Suckers about knee high. Okra.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

Oh, yes, I ate okra. God. One's wanted haze okra around here.

[Dustin]

He says, oh, yeah.

[Ben]

It's pretty legal to grow it.

[Hunter]

Yeah. And ought to be illegal to grow it for whatever reason. I don't know why.

[Ben]

That's one of the things that. When Phil cooked. What?

[Hunter]

Gumbo.

[Ben]

Gumbo. Every time he, you know, he cooked a big pot, well, hey, he'd break out a bag of frozen okra.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Oh, in it. Oh, every time.

[Hunter]

I'm just a believer. You don't have gumbo unless it's got ochre in it. That's. I'm. I'm a firm believer in that. That. That's. That's what makes a good gumbo.

[Ben]

It is good is okra.

[Hunter]

So. Yeah, that's kind of our travels. I played in a golf tournament for first time since last year. That was fun.

[Ben]

For the big talk about that, I'm gonna tell Stone he ought to plant some okra down there on the place for duck. Duck feed, huh?

[Hunter]

Are you gonna feed ducks okra? Just go eat it yourself.

[Ben]

Well, hey, no, no. Dudes is good ducks. Because we had a. We had a guy and before we used to live in Dixie, he had a lake that dried up every year.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

He disk it up and Planted okra there and it come up and then all of it got ripe and then he flooded it and you talking about wearing some ducks out on.

[Hunter]

Really? You wear me out too. If I knew there was a free range okra patch, I could go get some.

[Ben]

Oh, it's about what, probably 30 acres of okra. Of okra? Yeah. Oh, no, it was a lake down and the rains filled it up and hey, the ducks got on it.

[Hunter]

Man, if I'd have stumbled across that. Good Lord. We got one row of okra and I, I. Well, by the time it gets that

[Ben]

stuff produces though it's own real.

[Hunter]

Well, the cool part about ochres, when the rest of your garden burns up, the ochre really just takes off. Yeah, like the hotter it gets, the

[Ben]

more it's better it go.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Heck yeah, man, it's so good.

[Dustin]

Then we went to Forest Frank.

[Hunter]

Forest Frank, how was that? How was High Forest? Oh, he's good, boy.

[Dustin]

Puts on a phenomenal show slash worship slash. I don't even know what to call it.

[Hunter]

Yeah, that's good.

[Dustin]

It's all. It's like you go to church, but you also get to dance a little.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

And just have a good time. But I'd never been to like a major Christian concert like that before. And I don't know that there are that many of those.

[Hunter]

I still never have. Yeah, yeah.

[Dustin]

Like a.

[Hunter]

But where was it?

[Ben]

Who's he gonna say?

[Dustin]

Forest Frank, have you ever heard of him? He says things, he sings really catchy tunes about Jesus and the kids love him, my wife loves him. I. You know what? I'm gonna be honest. If it comes on, I ain't changing the channel because it's so much fun.

[Ben]

I wasn't saying mercy me. I can't thank the other ones.

[Dustin]

Okay, so here's my question. Were they selling alcohol all outside the stadium?

[Ben]

Oh, yeah. Another thing inside you could bring, you know, beer. You got beers.

[Dustin]

So I didn't really expect that. We walk in and there's just, there's no lines to get the beer.

[Hunter]

Oh yeah. Nobody wants to be the one caught drinking at 4.

[Dustin]

And I go to the bathroom and there's this guy that goes. Best part about this concert. Beer line so short.

[Hunter]

He's just at four star.

[Dustin]

Another guy goes, yeah, brother, lot of Baptists in here tonight.

[Hunter]

You ask them what they were then.

[Dustin]

No, I'm giggling at the urinal because I'm just like, I'm just cracking up laughing that this is the conversation that I'm somehow right beside.

[Hunter]

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[Dustin]

He's like, yeah, man. Every time I come to these, I'm the only person in the beer line. But then they start asking you to give money to them kids. My kids were like, sponsor this kid. He's like, I'm still sponsoring a kid from Dude Perfect. But I sponsored another one anyway.

[Hunter]

Well, good for him, man.

[Dustin]

Yeah, he had a lot of high noons.

[Hunter]

That's good.

[Dustin]

Which is a probably better way to get. We should tell Jephthah if you really want them to sponsor. Oh, you know, I'm surrounded by children and a little liquored up first. It seemed to help. I don't know how you do that.

[Hunter]

They want to rethink that statement.

[Ben]

That's right. Yeah.

[Hunter]

Because I feel like. I feel like that could go the way wrong. I feel like I want you to clip that, though. And I need it.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

But added it and I don't know when we'll use it, but yeah.

[Dustin]

Anyway, that's a great one.

[Hunter]

Surrounded by children and a little Liquor. Can we explore that a little more?

[Ben]

It.

[Dustin]

That's what was happening. And they were like, sponsor the kids. Sponsor the kids. And they looked at me and wanted me to sponsor some kid. As I got Jeff, I got one of Jeff's kids.

[Hunter]

There you go.

[Dustin]

They might even live with Jeff at this point. I can't tell. There's so many cars down there.

[Hunter]

So they just treat it kind of like a DU banquet. Like you go these ducks unlimited banquet Delta. You know, I'm saying you won't save the ducks. You get people liquored up and then that. With that comes wallet lubrication. And people try to be the most proud person in there. And I don't think that was the plan.

[Dustin]

I think Simmons bank arena was like, you can come here. But we got a. We got a bottom line to scratch.

[Hunter]

How much were their drinks? I don't have an eight bucks.

[Dustin]

I bought a $6 water, so I can only imagine.

[Hunter]

Oh, yeah, they probably 12 in. Yeah. I was just curious. I didn't know.

[Guest]

Do you know what you just made me realize?

[Dustin]

What?

[Guest]

The Christian heavy metal concert that I went to. No alcohol only liquid death.

[Hunter]

Oh, the canned water. Yeah, the water.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

I was surprised. And I was with a pastor buddy of mine, and I was like, boy, I bet the say that's. I bet the beer sales are going to be pretty low tonight for old Simmons banker. And he goes, I'm ones in the hidden styrofoam cup will be high, though. He said that? I started laughing.

[Ben]

I have. I have to say this. That's why most people, okay, are wrong about God. Never said anywhere in his word, you can't have alcohol.

[Dustin]

Yeah, I agree with you. I'm just not sure I'm going to, you know, partake.

[Ben]

Well, most, frankly, most religious people, though, if they see you, like, drink a beer, you know, they'll look down on you. God ain't never said that you can't drink a beer or have some glass of wine.

[Hunter]

No.

[Ben]

Matter of fact, it's just the opposite.

[Hunter]

Oh, my big toe does, though.

[Ben]

He tells you take a little wine for their stomach steak.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Now, hey, he don't say over endures in alcohol. Now. He does say that. Don't do that.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Don't get drunk.

[Ben]

Yeah. Don't get drunk. But hey, yo, it's okay for you to have a beer.

[Hunter]

Oh, 100%.

[Dustin]

Well, see, I did that floating down the buffalo, but I ain't going to do that at the forest. It seems like a weird place, you know, I don't know the rules. Yeah, but the water was great.

[Hunter]

You slid in Midge of that old church. Christ legalism got you.

[Dustin]

Yeah, you, you, you.

[Hunter]

Yeah. You felt guilty. I don't know where you felt guilty from your roots. I get it.

[Dustin]

But I didn't. But also, I ain't got to have a drink everywhere I go.

[Hunter]

No, I ain't either.

[Dustin]

And I'm like, so. I'm like, I never. It just blew my mind. And then I was like, ain't nobody going to be buying that. And then the hilarious conversation about.

[Hunter]

In the urinal. Yeah.

[Dustin]

Was just my favorite part of the whole thing.

[Hunter]

I'm just glad there was two boys in there that found something that they had in common, you know, Short line. Did they have the full refreshments? Could you get, like, nachos at it?

[Dustin]

Oh, I got. I had some chili cheese fries.

[Hunter]

Yes.

[Dustin]

There's nothing in the Bible against that Dilly cheese.

[Hunter]

How much were they? Eight bucks.

[Dustin]

Didn't ask. Just put my phone down, tapped, and left.

[Ben]

I don't want to know.

[Hunter]

I walked away.

[Dustin]

Yeah, that and like four waters and a monster energy drink. It was enough to. And then we almost got in a wreck. If you're ever in Little Rock leaving a concert, good luck. There was a man asleep in a car.

[Hunter]

What was he doing asleep in the

[Dustin]

middle of the road?

[Hunter]

He was in that line. The line.

[Dustin]

I think he was there.

[Hunter]

Line was so short, my man couldn't even make it out the parking lot.

[Dustin]

So then I'm like, what's going on with him? And then you can't turn whoever was in a CRV in Little Rock at the Forest Frank concert. Learn how to drive.

[Hunter]

Oh.

[Dustin]

Because they wouldn't move. And then they. Then this other car pulls in, and then F250 slams into it and almost hit me.

[Hunter]

Oh, really?

[Dustin]

Oh, yeah. I was this close to being stuck in Little Rock. Wow. Which would have not been great.

[Hunter]

Allison's car.

[Ben]

Oh,

[Dustin]

Hit the tundra. Don't hit that thing.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Tough. Hey, man.

[Dustin]

Anyway, that was my weekend summed up. Had a great time, and then I accidentally matched my brother in law at the concert, which felt stupid.

[Hunter]

So he was there.

[Dustin]

Yep.

[Hunter]

How many other people do you see? Anybody else you know?

[Dustin]

Oh, yeah.

[Hunter]

A lot of people.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

Come from down here, up there. Well, that's the closest Force Frank gift right here.

[Dustin]

You'll be in Dallas at the end of the summer.

[Ben]

On a schedule. Yeah. On a scale of 1 to 10, how was the concert?

[Dustin]

I'm giving it a 10.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

Cory Asbury came out. It ended With Amazing Grace acapella. And I was like, this is my CU gang.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

Now I don't need no instruments.

[Hunter]

Then that old Church of Christ really got out. You know how good that have been if you'd had like two beers?

[Dustin]

I actually have no idea, sir. Never sang Amazing Grace with two beers deep at a worship service. I might have sang it a couple times around a campfire.

[Hunter]

Well, we will at his memorial service. How about that, man?

[Ben]

There you go.

[Dustin]

Oh, that's great.

[Hunter]

Oh, good. Great.

[Dustin]

No, but if you were any. If you have. No, you know what I was about to say, if you have kids, if you love Jesus, go see Forest Frank. Because it is a wonderful time.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

And he. It's just all positive and fun that a.

[Hunter]

Boys love his music. He got a little vibe going on where he. He does it and he talks about Jesus, but it's in a fun. It's not in your typical worship music way.

[Dustin]

It's upbeat.

[Hunter]

It's kind of made for kids. Really. If you think about it. Younger folks.

[Dustin]

That's where my sister would slap you. Because I think she. She's. It's made for her.

[Hunter]

No, I don't disagree with that. But it's a way to get kids involved in it because of the upbeat.

[Dustin]

He knows what he's doing.

[Hunter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dustin]

He's. He's. He's given kids positive music. And for that I'm all about it.

[Hunter]

Yeah. And it's easy listening for the parents too. So even if your kids do get obsessed with it, it's not like you. Oh, yeah.

[Dustin]

I don't.

[Hunter]

Kids bop or nothing like that.

[Ben]

Oh.

[Hunter]

So. Yeah.

[Dustin]

Way better than kids Pop.

[Hunter]

Hey, man. Buddy. That stuff. Trash.

[Dustin]

Anyways, my kids got.

[Hunter]

Hunter, do you listen to Kids Pop? You're laughing like you do.

[Guest]

No, I. You just reminded me of my parents because they hated it so much. They just got me and my sister on Skillet. Like the old Christian band.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

Skillet was awesome.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Guest]

So we listened to like that and Breaking Benjamin. They're like, absolutely.

[Hunter]

Is Skillet still together?

[Guest]

Yeah, they go on unashamed all the time.

[Hunter]

Gillet does. Yeah. Why don't they come right here?

[Guest]

Because they. They do. In video.

[Hunter]

They. Okay. They. They loop in.

[Dustin]

Yeah, we're not.

[Hunter]

Have they asked them where they come up with the name Skillet yet? I have because I'm interested.

[Guest]

But I'm.

[Dustin]

I'm.

[Guest]

They never ask me to. To record those episodes.

[Hunter]

Yeah. You feel bad, huh? That's okay. We'll close them loops one day. Man.

[Ben]

We are.

[Dustin]

When also you know What? Just a P.S. a shameless plug for my. Myself. Please go watch Senator John Kennedy's Instagram, find my comment, like it and tell him to come on the show because I'm working hard. Every time he. Every time he posts one of his weird new videos. Have you seen him? So we got to get you an Instagram to do the same thing.

[Hunter]

What? Oh, watch Senator Kennedy.

[Dustin]

No, just do it. He just turns the camera around, starts talking about Becky's. Did you watch that one? His wife Becky's famous chicken salad. Funniest thing you will watch.

[Hunter]

He likes chicken salad.

[Dustin]

Oh, he loves chicken salad.

[Hunter]

Oh.

[Dustin]

Makes me kind of have trust issues.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Me and him go, I. I thought.

[Dustin]

But Becky's chicken salad's apparently world famous. He goes, well, I don't know, but I like it. He goes, and I don't give. I don't know why people give a dang about what I'm doing, but my staff tells me to record this.

[Hunter]

He recorded himself eating chicken salad.

[Dustin]

I'm making a sandwich.

[Hunter]

A chicken salad sandwich.

[Dustin]

It's so funny. You haven't seen it. Oh, you gotta go look and please go to my comment.

[Hunter]

No, I haven't. I haven't been on a lot of social just because I've been driving. I've been in my truck for the past.

[Dustin]

Well, the new greatest thing in all social media is John Kennedy's Instagram saying. He said, I ain't as smart as all these other people up here. You can just ask them. I gotta read 35 hours a week. Si. There's big news in the world.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Dustin]

This is a good break. You were kind of fired up when we showed up.

[Ben]

Yep.

[Dustin]

I'm gonna fire you up even more.

[Ben]

What was the big news?

[Dustin]

Are you ready for maybe the craziest news I've ever heard? I'm on fieldandstream magazine.com fieldandstream.com okay, there is an initiative in Oregon. Sigh. That they are actually may vote on in November. It's called the Peace Act.

[Hunter]

Peace.

[Dustin]

The Peace Act.

[Hunter]

Hey, peace is a good thing.

[Ben]

Is this the one about fishing, hunting and ranching?

[Dustin]

This thing has 150,000 signatures or something. And only needs 117,000 for the people of Oregon to have to vote on it. And it would make hunting, fishing, hurting any animal for any reason illegal.

[Hunter]

Do what?

[Dustin]

They're actually going to have to vote on a fishing.

[Hunter]

And this is a popular vote or is this a legislative vote?

[Dustin]

This is a popular vote. I believe it will be on the ballot. They've got enough there's enough people in Oregon trying to make hunting and fishing illegal, punishable by law, that they will have to vote on if they're. Now, the good news is there's 330,000 licensed hunters in Oregon and 500,000 licensed fishermen, so surely that there, there will be more votes. But that's the world we live in, sir.

[Hunter]

Look, I've been on road a lot this summer and you know, and sleeping in a hotel, man, it just ain't it. My sleep score struggles. But till I get home and I get on that Helix sleep mattress. And that's why we love our Helix sleep mattresses, because the proof is in the pudding.

[Dustin]

We were at that cabin just, just this weekend and boy, did I not sleep right.

[Hunter]

But you know what you do? It's simple, man. You take a super simple Helix sleep quiz and you're matched with what? Johnny?

[Dustin]

I'm a moonlight luxe kind of fellow because I like a soft, fluffy cloud.

[Hunter]

We've had the Helix mattresses for four years now and it has legit been the best slee ever. Have our whole podcast family sleeping on Helix, the guys over at Unashamed Sadie, all of us, we are here to tell you they are absolutely the best. And helix offers over 20 different mattress models so you can find your perfect match. We're not the only ones saying it. Helix is the most awarded mattress brand, tested and reviewed by experts like Wired and Forbes. And like I told you, my sleep tracker right here shows the difference. Look, I was blown away at how much my sleep improved with Helix. I see it every time I leave and every time I come back, not only do I just sleep better in general, Helix, no back pain, no body aches, no stiff muscles. And if you're still not convinced, they have a 120 night trial. And the happy with Helix guarantee means you're going to love your new mattress as much as we love ours, guaranteed. So go to helixleep.com for 20 off site wide. That's helixsleep.com for 20 off site wide. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout so that they know we sent you helixsleep.com stuck.

[Ben]

That's why when I come up here this morning, I've been watching the news and crap like this is on.

[Hunter]

To the fine folks of Oregon.

[Dustin]

We got your back. To the fine folks of Oregon. Yeah, and I will.

[Hunter]

And for the ones who started the signature, what if you reside in Portland, might I offer you a chance to go out to your countryside and tell me which one is better? The outskirts or downtown Portland. I've been to both. One of them is trash.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's exactly right.

[Hunter]

And one of them is arguably one of the most beautiful stretches I've ever seen in my life.

[Dustin]

Oregon is amazing.

[Hunter]

It's unbelievable.

[Dustin]

Except for Portland, and there's 100.

[Hunter]

Portland is garbage.

[Dustin]

And there's 125,000 people that are going to make the entire state vote on, if not even hunting and fishing. If you're allowed to raise a chicken and chop its head off and eat its thighs, of which I had two last night. Oregon. And they were delicious.

[Hunter]

What about.

[Guest]

What about, like, if you raise chickens and you collect their eggs?

[Dustin]

No. Illegal.

[Guest]

Is that illegal?

[Hunter]

It's got to be that. That has to hurt the mom, like the hen chicken, because her babies are gone. They're going to send the. I mean, Oregon.

[Ben]

See, I'm leading with you, Oregon.

[Hunter]

Y' all can't be serious. Like, this can't be.

[Dustin]

That's serious.

[Hunter]

I know this much. I was planning on going to Oregon duck hunting anyway. If y' all voting in November, I guess I'll hit the October season and I will make a campaign while I'm out there.

[Dustin]

But there's no way it passes.

[Hunter]

Our fine folks at Heavy Shot, who's worked with us forever or out of Oregon. Man.

[Dustin]

What? Hey, there's. You know how many people have jobs

[Hunter]

that depend on hunting and fishing and loving every day. This ain't even making fun of Luke's new song.

[Dustin]

Oh, that's easy to do.

[Hunter]

Oh, that's bad.

[Dustin]

But it's like Jordan Summit wrote a mad Lib and handed it to Luke, and Luke made a song out of it.

[Hunter]

Toughy. But I say this. You know, everybody says that one's bad. Did y' all hear the one before it? This. This country and she knows it. 1.

[Dustin]

Oh, that's not very good either.

[Hunter]

No.

[Ben]

I just got one question.

[Dustin]

Okay.

[Ben]

Organ. Where's your common sense on this?

[Dustin]

I think common sense will prevail here, but it's scary that there's enough.

[Hunter]

Why did the people that signed it. Did you have to be from Oregon to get that signature? That's a hundred and whatever.

[Dustin]

You have to validate all the signatures. It looks like there's still a.

[Hunter]

Okay.

[Dustin]

A lot to go.

[Hunter]

So, like, you know, some person from, you know, wherever, Colorado couldn't go sign that petition and make the fine folks of Oregon have to vote on it. Right.

[Dustin]

But, yeah, they'll. They'll trash.

[Hunter]

It has to be 117 residents of Oregon's signature.

[Dustin]

Yeah, it's Got to be legitimate Oregon

[Hunter]

resident residents that had to sign it.

[Dustin]

But I mean, that's crazy.

[Ben]

You're not looking at the economics of this either.

[Hunter]

But have you seen Portland? They don't care.

[Dustin]

Hunting, fishing and wildlife.

[Ben]

No, no. Because like you said, when you go to the city, it's trash.

[Hunter]

Yeah. They just soon everybody be. They just soon everybody be broken, homeless, independent. Heaven forbid. The independent.

[Ben]

But I just look at. Okay, that means I can't go catch a massive crappie.

[Hunter]

Not in Oregon.

[Ben]

And cook me a mess of fish.

[Hunter]

Not in. Not an organ.

[Ben]

Or if I want to go out, was it kill me eight squirrel.

[Hunter]

You know what, though? I'm not even going to worry about it because I think the fine folks of the Oregon countryside will band together and this will never be anything. That's what I'm hoping for.

[Ben]

Well, well, I hope that it's a

[Hunter]

travesty that it even could make it potentially to a ballot.

[Ben]

But see the, what scares me about this is, is how this popped up, how it come into being. Because I'm looking at it economically, it's not going to help your, your cities or your country.

[Hunter]

No.

[Ben]

Common sense wise. Hey, it's, you know, you're taking food that, that I love to catch any.

[Hunter]

Well, forget. Yeah. I mean, no. If you're wondering to know where the money comes from that takes care of that wildlife, where the people that. That sign.

[Ben]

Yeah. If it wouldn't be for the hunters

[Hunter]

and fishermen, it wasn't for the license sales, then all this wildlife that you think you're protecting is about to go grossly underserved.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

So because hunting efficiency.

[Ben]

Why I was saying this. Economically, you're killing yourself.

[Dustin]

I'm going to read that sentence.

[Ben]

Yeah. And then common sense wise, you're killing

[Hunter]

how much money they, they, they bring in hunting and fishing licenses in Oregon.

[Dustin]

It doesn't have that. But hunting, fishing and wildlife watching activities account for $1.2 billion in spending.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

And over 11,000 jobs. And in that, all that has sales tax.

[Hunter]

Your economy in that state, Oregon.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

That's your economy we're talking about here. $1 billion.

[Hunter]

Yeah. 1.2 billion.

[Dustin]

That's $1 billion.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

You think you got Chelsea Clinton also

[Ben]

that you might want to think about this again.

[Dustin]

Now there's no way. But it's, but now we're to the point where we have to bring it up. We actually, it's almost like we have to make sure we shouldn't be in a world where we have to make sure we're still allowed to fish or hunt or raise chickens or raise goats or raise cows.

[Ben]

I just look at a couple of lines in the Constitution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

[Dustin]

And you know what made your brother happy?

[Ben]

You're fooling with that. And hey, when you are, you're. You're. You've just found you went on the fighting side of me.

[Hunter]

Y' all heard it, okay?

[Ben]

Because you're. You're messing with my life, you're messing with my liberty, and you're messing with my pursuit of happiness.

[Hunter]

You said you're going to get him fired up.

[Dustin]

I thought this might. Because you know what makes.

[Ben]

And you wonder why I'm mad when I can't go fishing, I can't go hunting, and nobody can have ranks. We don't have cows. You people are ignorant. Sorry about that, but, hey, that's just my opinion on you.

[Hunter]

Do we know who started the petition?

[Dustin]

No, I just want to go back to the pursuit of happiness real quick because, you know, it made your brother feel real happy.

[Ben]

Yeah. To blow a Miller Drake's head Islam

[Hunter]

off at 20 yards.

[Ben]

And he liked to do it every day of his life. If it was a season. Every day. He would hunt every day. I got a really 65. If it was open.

[Hunter]

I got a really good friend who's from Oregon.

[Dustin]

Well, Matt from Oregon emailed in and said if y' all could just help. Help some. Some Oregon.

[Ben]

Hey, I got a question. As you.

[Dustin]

Okay, I will come to Oregon if it.

[Ben]

Back in the day, the pioneers were one that made the Oregon Trail tricks.

[Dustin]

Well, they didn't. They just ate grass the whole way up and back.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

They didn't hunt or.

[Ben]

Hey, what happened to all you.

[Hunter]

The people that made. The people that made this petition died from dysentery for sure. Guaranteed.

[Dustin]

Because they were too afraid to shoot the buffalo. And now those people, they did shoot too many buffalo. We had to pile that back. But.

[Hunter]

But if they played the game, they died from dysentery.

[Dustin]

They died from being a little pansy.

[Hunter]

They pooped themselves to death.

[Dustin]

Is that what dysentery is?

[Hunter]

Huh?

[Ben]

Oh, no.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ben]

But what's the three things about. Hey. First, be slow to speak, quick to listen. Yeah, quick to listen is quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to speak. Then what's the third one?

[Hunter]

Slow to anger. Right.

[Ben]

That'd be a good one. But, hey, Organ you need. Hey, before you get involved in this, you better think about it a while.

[Hunter]

Better change your team's name to ducks.

[Ben]

You better think about it.

[Hunter]

Imagine how many ducks are hurt by that.

[Ben]

Do a little research on it. Yo, you're going to lose a billion dollars, y'.

[Hunter]

All.

[Ben]

I told you it was going to affect your economy.

[Dustin]

I would. Okay, but here's the. There's no way it passes. Right.

[Ben]

But I wouldn't say that. That's what scares me.

[Dustin]

It's. Yeah, it's scary.

[Ben]

That's what. And we hear about it.

[Dustin]

We have to make sure as human beings, crazy stuff like that doesn't happen. But, I mean, I would legitimately have to move. How sad would you be if you lived in Oregon and that happened? Because, I mean, I pack up my bags.

[Ben]

Why I'm leaving.

[Dustin]

Not only do I not have a job, here's what I'm hungry.

[Hunter]

If they outlaw it. If they outlaw. If I pass this, say it passes.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

The people, the game wardens, for example, that protect all of Oregon's wildlife, they're out of a job.

[Ben]

Yep. They're gone.

[Hunter]

They're gone. The. The park shut down. All this stuff's gone.

[Ben]

Yep.

[Hunter]

Nobody to protect it. We're going hunting in Oregon because who's going to stop us? There ain't going to be nobody there. You don't want to go smash. You go catch them. Like, who's going to stop you?

[Ben]

No, no, no.

[Hunter]

They're going to be underfunded and understaffed. 1.2 billion.

[Ben]

He's right.

[Hunter]

As long as you're not a. You can go get whatever you want out of the state of Oregon.

[Ben]

There's no.

[Hunter]

That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, let it go. And I'm coming to a border near you, buddy, because you're.

[Ben]

You're going to turn the people that. This is part of their life.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You're going to turn them into outlaws. Oh, they're still going to do it.

[Hunter]

Oh, yeah. And then somebody's going to get hurt.

[Ben]

Yeah, then somebody's going to get killed.

[Hunter]

Yeah. He went the first way.

[Ben]

You can even go, well, it hurt or killed.

[Hunter]

Oh, I mean, it'll happen, but.

[Ben]

So, yo, you're opening Pandora's box here, and you have no idea what you're unleashing when you do that.

[Hunter]

Oh, look, I was on the road the other day in south Alabama, and I look up and there's this big storm brewing, son. And I'm in a brand new truck, and I'm just driving down the road, and next thing I know, I look up and half of a tree is just coming out of the side of interstate right in front of me, and I'm like, oh, buddy, lucky for me, I looked in the left lane, there was nobody there. I was able to get out of the way of the. Of the tree falling. But it did make me think, man, life insurance, something I got to get on top of. And life insurance isn't exactly a fun conversation, but it's one that you got to have. Ethos makes that part easy. Ethos makes getting life insurance fast and easy because it's 100% online. You can get a quote in seconds, apply in minutes, and get same day coverage. There's no medical exam. You just have to answer a few simple health questions, and you can get up to $3 million in coverage. And some policies are as low as 30 bucks a month. And Ethos has a 4.8 out of 5 stars on Trustpilot with over 4,000 reviews. So you know that many people can't be wrong. Take 10 minutes to get covered today with life insurance through Ethos. Get your free [e-mail] that is E T-H O S.com Application times may vary, rates may vary. Where do you draw the line? Right. When you pick that Brussels sprout, does that not hurt it?

[Dustin]

Well, I draw the line somewhere between

[Hunter]

rabbits and horses at some level. So then what are you gonna eat?

[Dustin]

Well, what do you mean, where do I draw the line? I'm not gonna eat a dog. I will eat a goat if I'm forced to. Don't really like it.

[Hunter]

That goat ain't terrible. And on my top like a lamb.

[Dustin]

But have you ever seen that, that billboard?

[Hunter]

Oh, yeah.

[Dustin]

Somewhere around here, right about there is pretty obvious.

[Ben]

I always go meat eaters and veg vegetarians. They said you're killing animals to eat. To eat. Well, hey, when you pull that carrot up out of the ground.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You just killed it.

[Hunter]

He's gone. That's what I'm saying.

[Ben]

Okay. And if you don't believe that, hey, throw it over on the ground and come back about three days later and see if it ain't just withered up and fixed to go away.

[Dustin]

There it is.

[Ben]

It died. Yeah, this.

[Dustin]

This was a real billboard put up by PETA. All animals want to live. Where do you draw the line? It's a bunch of cats and dogs on one side, and it's a bunch of chickens and cows and rabbits on the other side. And somebody painted over it said, right about here.

[Ben]

About right here.

[Dustin]

I ain't gonna eat that horse. I will eat that rabbit, though. He. The rabbit and the horse need to switch spots.

[Hunter]

They say horse is good What?

[Ben]

Well, hey, I will go back to the three states that I've told you about in our Constitution. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. Life, okay? Things die, things live. That. That's life. That's a cycle, okay? That's part of life. Death is part of life.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

No, and Eaton's part of life, too.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, hey, and I've got. I've got orders from headquarters. Okay. Arise, kill, and eat.

[Dustin]

Well, in Genesis, I have dominion, okay?

[Ben]

And plus, God made me a steward of what we're talking about.

[Hunter]

That's interesting. I wonder how you get there. Well, I just wonder how you end up there.

[Dustin]

You know, that's trying to protect a white purchase road.

[Hunter]

Right to lie road did it take to get you there?

[Ben]

What got you where you're at?

[Hunter]

I am. I'm actually genuinely curious about that. Like, what. And then also, how do you survive? What. What's your. What's your deal?

[Dustin]

I've seen some of them, though, and that's what bothers me.

[Hunter]

I've smelt some of them, too.

[Dustin]

If you're gonna be that against meat, you. You shouldn't.

[Hunter]

Well, I just shouldn't look like I

[Dustin]

did in Duck Dynasty.

[Hunter]

Well, here's the deal, right?

[Dustin]

You know what I'm saying? You should be pretty thin. What are you.

[Hunter]

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that goes on that I don't agree with, I don't understand. I don't get it. I'm not out there making a petition to get rid of it. I just say, you know what? You do you, bro. As long as it's legal. As long as it's legal and moral, I'm cool.

[Dustin]

They have put the bluegill on the level of humans.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

Is the problem.

[Hunter]

That's the weird. That's. That's. That's where this gets weird, is. Yeah, we're starting to look at things at a human level that are clearly not human. And that's a problem. That's a big problem.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Hunter]

Things are out of order.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Dustin]

Attawack.

[Hunter]

Yeah, things are out. But that's why I just want to know what got you there. Like, I'm legitimately curious to how you got there. Like, and that's an easy thing to get by. Yeah, I hate that y' all kill stuff. Well, for somebody to eat, something's got to die. And that goes for all of them. For a deer to eat, that thing's gonna have to die. For a buzzard to eat, something had to die. Buzzards head stuff for a plant to eat, technically breaking down nutrients in the soil. Something had to die. Just say, that's just.

[Ben]

That's why I brought up life lived

[Hunter]

soon happening for the fish to eat something else to die. Like, there's. That's just.

[Ben]

That is life.

[Hunter]

That's.

[Ben]

Life is life is the beginning of life. And then there's the end of life.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You're alive. And then, hey, one of these days you're going to die.

[Hunter]

And I understand if you don't like hunting or fishing. I get it. It may not be for you. And you may think that we're all, I don't know, egotistical, barbaric. Well, that goes about things, but you ain't going to find nobody that loves that stuff more now, like right now, I love seeing little baby ducks running around. Oh, I love watching them. I got baby bluebirds in the house at home. My favorite thing, to go out there

[Dustin]

and look at them in your home.

[Hunter]

And the bird house. Yeah, they got their own house. I put the. I put up their own house.

[Dustin]

You said in the. In. I thought, okay.

[Hunter]

Yeah, they were in their house.

[Ben]

I go.

[Hunter]

I got. Me and the boys go look at them every day and show the. You know, show the process of how they go from a little naked pink thing with like half feather on it to now they're like little. I mean, long. And they'll be fledging out of the neck.

[Ben]

Yeah. Then they get fuzzy.

[Hunter]

Yeah, they're cool, man.

[Ben]

Then it gets better and they get covered with feathers. Next thing you know, they're flaws.

[Hunter]

And you know what, though? She feeds them worms. Guess what? For the babies to eat, the worms had to die. So I'm just saying it's kind of a weird deal. It's a.

[Dustin]

That's crazy.

[Ben]

You could even say it was like a cycle.

[Hunter]

Yeah. It's almost like there's this web.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

That was created.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

And it has to work this way for things.

[Ben]

Yeah. And it works only this way.

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

No.

[Dustin]

Why? Didn't mean to go too political today, but I felt like that's something we got to speak against also. Speaking of politics, did you see what Donald Trump did in Bangladesh?

[Hunter]

Man, I really got to watch more tv, I guess.

[Dustin]

Didn't see what he did.

[Hunter]

I ain't seen y' all talking about all kinds of stuff I ain't seen.

[Dustin]

There he is right there.

[Hunter]

Huh?

[Ben]

Oh, that's Donald Trump.

[Hunter]

A rare albino buffalo.

[Ben]

Donald Trump. Look at the hairdo.

[Dustin]

There was a buffalo that was about to get slaughtered in Bangladesh for some sort of.

[Hunter]

And he Pardoned him?

[Dustin]

No, he didn't party on him. But then they said, well, he looks like Donald Trump now. Now the cow is named Donald Trump and they put it in a zoo instead of slaughtering it.

[Ben]

That's it.

[Dustin]

So if you got a haircut just like Donald Trump, you might be able to be saved. Oregon cows. How much does that cow look like? The president.

[Ben]

I do this. I like it a little. Needs to be a little lighter color.

[Hunter]

That's funny.

[Dustin]

That's as deep as politics as we're going to get. There's a cow in Bangladesh, a cow Bangladesh named. It's apparently a big deal. People are coming from all over to see the cow.

[Hunter]

You reckon he talks too much, too? Can he go just a little too much?

[Dustin]

It's a big, beautiful, beautiful.

[Hunter]

I see you over there. Those big, beautiful ears. Ears of corn. You're going to feed me.

[Dustin]

Also, whoever named him Donald Trump got fired, apparently.

[Hunter]

Oh, you think they named him Donald Trump?

[Dustin]

It went viral.

[Hunter]

I just wonder what, like, the Bangladesh interpretation of Donald Trump was. Languages are weird. They really are.

[Dustin]

Oh, yeah. He could have been like, Donnie. All I know is where. Where I'm going to Oregon to vote.

[Hunter]

Yeah, it's weird, man. That's.

[Dustin]

Would you move?

[Hunter]

I'd have to.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hunter]

I mean, you're not.

[Ben]

Oh, if I put it in law, I'm out of there.

[Hunter]

I say that I would then petition something else. I. I would then do everything I could to turn that place into two states, Oregon and. Or. Or here.

[Ben]

I couldn't move.

[Hunter]

I don't know.

[Ben]

Or a go or on.

[Hunter]

You're out.

[Ben]

And then if I couldn't move, then I did go outlaw.

[Hunter]

I would just now I would.

[Dustin]

I would either move to Florida, although since they sent me over to collections, I might not.

[Hunter]

I would. I would just beat them at their own game. I would. Then I would then have to play their game against them.

[Dustin]

Oh, what would you outlaw? Purple hair and not shaving your armpits for women?

[Hunter]

Stop on it. Don't spit that out on the computer. Those things are expensive.

[Dustin]

I'm not saying that's the.

[Hunter]

No, but I would.

[Dustin]

I'm just saying that's 124.

[Hunter]

What I would then do is then I would fight them at their own game and get legislation passed where it's not a popular vote, where it's then just in some bill where it's like, no, you have the right to do this.

[Dustin]

You do have the right to do it.

[Hunter]

That's what I'm saying. But I would make them Put it in writing and it would then become law. It would be a law that was part of Oregon's constitution or so I would just beat them at their own game. I would not go through frickin petition on change.org to do this.

[Dustin]

I wouldn't even be able to get milk though. Like it. The. The act gets rid of farming cows.

[Hunter]

Yeah. I mean no milk, no butter, no bacon, no, no, no, none of that. Like, I mean that's why I said

[Ben]

you better name four of my. Think about this a while.

[Hunter]

That's what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, it's easy as a knee jerk. Re I hate hunting and fishing. I get it. It's not for everybody. We have some really poor examples of outdoorsmen that live in the world. I get it. Right. But for most of us are pretty good. Most of us are pretty good people that mind our own and take care of stuff. We give way more than we take most of the time.

[Dustin]

I even throw fish back most of the time.

[Hunter]

I mean it's bass.

[Dustin]

I don't even want to eat it, man.

[Hunter]

D.C. we're going up and down the river and if we. The Coosa river and if we saw trash, we stopped and got it. Like we're picking up after other people and ain't our trash. I picked up a frickin golf ball. Somebody hitting the river. Like I don't even know where that thing came from. But you know, like the most of us are pretty good and actually care about that stuff. So. There are bad apples, no doubt. But yeah, I just beat them at their own game. I just then be a full onslaught of, you know, or another state. I'm cool or gone and Oregon. Oregon knots. I don't know.

[Dustin]

Let off that weird part and throw it in the ocean.

[Hunter]

I don't know where you end up but. And if you live in Portland. And I'm sorry man, but y' all really do. That's. It's bad. I don't know if it's still bad, but when I was there a couple

[Dustin]

of years ago, that's how all big cities are going though.

[Hunter]

Yeah. When I was there a couple of years ago, I was looking for the paper mill and there wasn't one. But it smelt distinctly like our city. And I was like o there's no paper mill.

[Ben]

Yeah, it ain't no and could find out, couldn't find out why. Why it stunk.

[Dustin]

There's not a paper mill or Bourbon Street. We don't know why it should smell like that, man.

[Hunter]

It was Toughie.

[Dustin]

You want to talk about somewhere that stinks?

[Hunter]

What, Bourbon? Yeah, Bourbon Street.

[Dustin]

New Orleans proper.

[Hunter]

Yeah. Yeah. So that's, you know. Yeah. We're looking at the problems in our own state. See, we recognize their problems here.

[Dustin]

We got lots of issues.

[Hunter]

Yeah. But, wow, what a life. What a time to be alive. Is that the best email we had? Oh, I mean, we got more.

[Dustin]

We got more, but I. I had to make sure we covered.

[Hunter]

Oh, no, I'm good with that. Yeah.

[Dustin]

We had to cover our feel. Although people knew our feelings toward Oregon.

[Hunter]

I love Oregon. It is.

[Dustin]

I think it needs to be known that there's, you know, there's. There's. That's the problem, though. Like, you know, 125, 000 people sign this thing because they're goofballs or whatever, but, like, if it actually becomes a fight.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

The whole country of outdoorsmen and outdoor women will turn their eyes towards Oregon and win.

[Hunter]

Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah.

[Dustin]

There's no way you'll win it.

[Hunter]

And your state is beautiful, man. Like, outside the cities are, man. There's some of those valleys, and then big, tall, like, evergreen trees. I don't know what kind of pine trees y' all got, and I don't want to disrespect them by calling something. But, man, y' all got a pretty place like it is. It is beautiful country, full of mallard ducks, full of widgets, full of elk turkeys. I think now. And y' all are pretty cool place. All the wild game take care of it. You can take care of it without doing what you're doing and, you know. But whatever it is, what it is.

[Dustin]

Father's Day's easy this year.

[Hunter]

Is it?

[Dustin]

Yeah.

[Hunter]

What?

[Dustin]

Beef. Beef. It's so simple. Your dad's probably got everything he's ever wanted. Just get him beef, and maybe he'll share some.

[Hunter]

Our friends over at Tri Tails premium beef makes a great gift. Look. Trails is running $20 off their Father's Day box through June 22. It's packed with premium black Angus beef raised on a family ranch near Palo Duro Canyon in Texas. They're also celebrating America's 250th birthday all month long. So if you buy a prime ribeye special, you're going to get two pounds of ground beef for free. And what we love about Trails is that it's family run. The same people out there raising the cattle are also packing the orders and shipping the beef directly to your door. They believe in doing things the right way, and you can taste the difference. It doesn't matter if you're cooking strips, which are my personal favorite, or if you're cooking the ground beef or the ribeyes or if you're. Sigh.

[Ben]

Filet mignon baby.

[Hunter]

Filet baby.

[Dustin]

He's fancy like that.

[Hunter]

He's a filet guy. And who else is. Who else a filet guy? There you go. How good was it?

[Ben]

I. I ate it with a spoon.

[Hunter]

It's so good and so tender and so fresh. Head over to Tribe Beef.com and for Duck Call Room listeners, visit TribBeef.com for an extra gift with your order. That's TribBeef.com grab something special for dad. Fire up the grill and celebrate 250 years of American legacy with some outstanding Texas beef.

[Dustin]

It is funny that a couple of the emails I have are about eating food that you have procured yourself from nature.

[Hunter]

Really?

[Ben]

Yep.

[Hunter]

What's that?

[Dustin]

Favorite type of fish to eat?

[Hunter]

Garrison from Kansas and he's asking ours.

[Dustin]

Yeah, but I'm trying to think Kansas. There's not a lot of mine.

[Hunter]

We got plenty of crop.

[Ben]

White perch probably.

[Dustin]

Hands down. Yep, hands down. It's the best.

[Ben]

Mustard fries white.

[Dustin]

You don't have to mustard fry it.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Dustin]

Put a cornmeal jacket on it.

[Ben]

Oh, hey. Mustard Fried it, baby.

[Hunter]

They're from Oregon. What? One of my favorite follows on the Internet. The N O D R. They're from Oregon odor. I can't say their full name. They say it. I can't.

[Dustin]

I don't know who we're talking about.

[Hunter]

Cornmeal jacket. They're from Oregon.

[Dustin]

Put that in a cornmeal jacket.

[Hunter]

See? They're from Oregon. Yeah, they are. The N O D R. I was

[Dustin]

wondering why you couldn't say it.

[Hunter]

Yeah, where's that?

[Dustin]

Where'd that go? Is that on Instagram?

[Hunter]

They still around? I see them pop up every time. Every now and then from time to time. I mean, they smoke a lot of weed and catch a lot of fish.

[Dustin]

Man, I got 11, 000 followers.

[Hunter]

Yeah, I'm one of them.

[Ben]

They're relaxing and catching fish.

[Hunter]

That's where cornmeal jacket originated. Right there.

[Ben]

That is. Look at them. Crappie boy.

[Hunter]

You ain't never heard of them? Oh, you need to go check them out.

[Ben]

118 plus crappies.

[Hunter]

Big dog, you gotta go.

[Dustin]

They ain't been posting a lot lately.

[Hunter]

No, I still watch our old stuff. Man, it's so good. The but I mean, they had a

[Dustin]

podcast for a minute. They should get together with hood fishing entertainment they should.

[Ben]

He's g. What is the Lord gonna leave us with today?

[Dustin]

I think we need a little more.

[Hunter]

We probably need about five more minutes.

[Ben]

Oh, okay.

[Hunter]

So, favorite fish to eat? We're back. Favorite fish to eat.

[Ben]

Mine's white part.

[Hunter]

I mean, all of them. Coffee are good, man. Brim or bluegill are good.

[Dustin]

My mom and dad caught a lot of bluegill this weekend.

[Hunter]

Bass are good. You know, best part of a bluegill is his tail. Yep. I love eating fish tails, man. Oh, wow. What a life.

[Dustin]

Yeah, I mean, it's like a fish flavored potato chip.

[Hunter]

I would say probably my least favorite is going to be a very unpopular opinion because for a lot of people it's the only fish they get to eat is catfish. Probably my least out of the.

[Dustin]

Your boy ain't eating no farm raised catfish.

[Hunter]

That's what I'm saying. I mean, I know a lot of people. You don't have access to fresh fish or.

[Ben]

Dude.

[Hunter]

But even outside of farm rays, like wild catfish are not great. That flathead's pretty good.

[Ben]

I think so.

[Hunter]

The flathead, up to about 15 pounds, is pretty opalous.

[Ben]

Cat belly bait.

[Dustin]

Yeah, but yeah, like our local catfish establishments. I'm not, I'm.

[Hunter]

I'm ordering the shrimp except for catfish. Charlie, the way that they.

[Dustin]

Charlie's got catfish.

[Hunter]

The way that they turn that catfish into like a chip, for lack of a better term, the thin and crispy. It's like. It's like a fish chip that you've

[Ben]

got to put it. You've got to cut it thin.

[Hunter]

Yeah, that stuff is good, but.

[Dustin]

But you know, it's real good. However them people in England be cutting whatever type of that fish.

[Hunter]

Yeah, that's like cod and stuff, I think. What they eat a lot of white fish I like, but ocean fish are better.

[Ben]

Oh, they're different. Yeah.

[Dustin]

I like a big piece of white fish meat. It's delicious.

[Hunter]

Yeah. So I mean, you start eating like cobia and all that kind of stuff. Oh, man. So, so good.

[Dustin]

You know what else is really good? Captain D's don't have a clue what type of fish it is. Thoroughly enjoy it.

[Hunter]

It's one of them whitefish, cod. This one of them at deadliest catch

[Dustin]

uses for baiting their crab trap, the processed Alaskan halibut.

[Ben]

Oh, cheap meat is the best on halibut.

[Hunter]

His cheeks. I'd eat it. Cold water fish are significantly better than warm water fish.

[Dustin]

We ain't got no cold water. That's not true. I don't really like trout or salmon Salmon's the wrong color, but salmon's good. No, it's.

[Hunter]

It's not bad.

[Dustin]

It's not good.

[Hunter]

Like blackened salmon is good. I don't have to worry. I mean, I've eaten the salmon sashimi. It's the raw. This raw salmon.

[Dustin]

You've grown up and it's just.

[Hunter]

I just like fish. So, I mean, you're going to be hard pressed to get a fish that I'm not going to at least try. I just genuinely enjoy eating fish.

[Dustin]

That's good.

[Hunter]

Yeah.

[Dustin]

I had one other one, but I can't find it. But somebody was asking how we like to prepare deer. And if I was in Oregon, I would say every way. Sausage, hamburgers. I like deer.

[Ben]

The best way to prepare deer is cut it up all about a quarter inch thick and then fry it up.

[Hunter]

Chicken fry it.

[Ben]

Chicken fry.

[Dustin]

I literally just. I feel bad because I'm not going to give this person their name.

[Hunter]

Chicken fried deer is good.

[Dustin]

You know how many emails we get telling us how Hunter should be doing his job?

[Hunter]

About what?

[Dustin]

A lot.

[Hunter]

What's he not doing?

[Dustin]

I don't know. Everybody wants to run our social media for him.

[Hunter]

Oh, that's a toughie. He just got that. Y' all give him some chance.

[Dustin]

No, they're not. It's just. It's just company saying, we'll clip your show for you.

[Hunter]

Oh, that's just AI stuff. Probably sign up for this and we'll feed your podcast into here and we'll AI clip it up.

[Dustin]

Well, I have no idea where that guy is. How I'm getting old and I can't even work a computer.

[Hunter]

Honor, you may have take over emails too. Just find some you find interesting and read them out to us. Johnny D said, fire away, boys.

[Ben]

Oh.

[Dustin]

Genesis 1:25 through 27. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good, which we can agree with the petition people. God liked it. We liked it. You liked it. Then God said, let's make man in our image, mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground. So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God. He created them. Male and female. He created them. We got orders from headquarters, boys. We're in charge, not the fish.

[Hunter]

There you go.

[Dustin]

Go catch them on a kwiki ball this weekend.

[Hunter]

Oh, wait.

[Ben]

Don't catch. You some crappie, Sam.