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Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Abiding Is Better Than Visiting | Jesse Duplantis | Holy Ghost Meetings 2024 | Tuesday AM
Date: January 10, 2024
Guest Minister: Jesse Duplantis
Host: Nancy Dufresne

Episode Overview

In this lively Holy Ghost Meetings session, Jesse Duplantis shares insights on the importance of "abiding" in Christ rather than just "visiting," weaving together personal stories, ministry experiences, practical faith lessons, and a message of abundance, faith, and productivity in the Christian life. Jesse and his wife Cathy discuss milestones in their journey, the power of faith partnerships, financial stewardship without shame, and how true union with Christ empowers believers to produce fruit in every realm. The session is conversational and filled with humor, boldness, and Jesse’s signature straightforward style.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Power of Fellowship and Divine Connections

[00:00-04:30]

• Jesse recounts the rare occasion of staying overnight and sharing genuine fellowship, expressing how such times are enriching for ministers who are often on the move.
  • “I sure enjoyed the fellowship with you people…” — Jesse ([00:47])
• Cathy Duplantis highlights the importance of connecting with people of “like precious faith” for spiritual encouragement and vision expansion.
  • “It did not come overnight... but it had to start with our believing. It had to start with divine connections.” — Cathy ([02:48])
• Story of connecting with the Copelands, which helped Jesse and Cathy believe for bigger things in ministry, especially for their first airplane.
  • “Most people we would go to and tell them that we were gonna believe for a plane, they'd roll their eyes or they'd jerk. But I remember the time that we connected with somebody of like precious faith that said, yeah, you can do that.” — Cathy ([03:25])
  • The importance of hearing “Why don’t you just do both?” regarding vision and resources ([04:31])

2. Walking by Faith, Not by Others’ Opinions

[06:46-07:36]

• Jesse and Cathy discuss how for years, they let others’ opinions limit their faith and sharing of vision. Once they stopped, things accelerated.
  • “We were letting people's opinions dictate to us and not what God was saying.” — Jesse ([06:46])
• Their testimony encourages others: stretching to believe for "big" things inspires others to do the same.

3. Money: Disappointment Without Abiding, A Tool in God’s Hands

[07:36-13:00]

• Jesse shares his story of coming from poverty, achieving worldly wealth in the rock music world, yet finding it empty until saved.
  • “Money don't make you happy, but it make you comfortable while you're miserable.” — Jesse ([08:32])
• When saved, Jesse learned to trust God with all finances, including periods of giving everything away and being supernaturally debt free.
  • “The Lord spoke to me, said, give me all your money now... So we did.” ([10:14])
  • The testimony of going from zero to debt-free in less than a year by obedience ([11:24])
• Clarifies wealth is judged by souls, not material gain.
  • “I don't count my wealth that way. I count my wealth by the souls I possess. Now you go get them.” — (From a conversation with God, [12:48])

4. Productivity Through Abiding in Christ

[23:40-32:00]

• Central text: John 15 – “I am the vine, you are the branches. He that abideth in me and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit… for without me you can do nothing.”
• Abiding—living constantly in Christ—enables fruitfulness in spiritual, physical, and financial areas.
  • “Our life is a branch life. Write that down. It is incomplete in itself.” — Jesse ([29:43])
• Separates the success that comes from striving ("making money") from the overflow that comes from generating resources by walking in faith and obedience.
  • “I don’t make money. I generate money. You generate it by your seed...it produces light, and people notice it when you generate.” ([31:00])
• Warns about being “driven by power” versus being “superior to it” as Jesus was.
  • “You must be superior to that power instead of driven by it.” ([32:05])

5. "Abiding is Better Than Visiting"—Personal and Practical Applications

[42:00-54:00]

• Many believers “visit” church or God but do not “abide.” Abiding brings transformation and lasting fruit.
  • “Abiding is much better than visiting.” — Jesse ([46:40])
• It is possible to live long times without sinning by living from the union with Christ (“the moral stem of humanity”), distinguishing temptation-driven sin from willful sinning.
  • “I don’t sin every day...I go long, spirit-long times without sinning. The only time I ever have is when I get in the flesh.” ([48:35])
  • God explained the difference between willful sin (as with Satan, who had no tempter) versus sin under temptation. ([49:30])

6. Testimonies: Healing & Provision Flow From Abiding

[1:50:00-2:10:00]

• Jesse recounts stories of miraculous healings, including a woman with a total hysterectomy having a child, and another with a seven-pound tumor instantly healed.
  • “If he can give you the first uterus, why can't he give you a second one?” ([2:05:05])
• The power of faith, the miracles he’s witnessed, and the role of boldness and obedience in stepping out.

7. Living Above Financial Limitations—Practical Faith and Stewardship

[1:22:00–1:40:00]

• Jesse details the difference between functioning by a budget (“budgets cost you something; vision brings you something”) and living by faith-filled vision.
• God’s pattern of providing “before you ask, I’ll answer”—testimonies of million-dollar checks arriving supernaturally when needs arose.
  • “Before I got the invoice, I got the money. He’s ahead of us.” — Jesse ([1:38:10])
  • Emphasizes, “God didn’t ask you to pay for it, He asked you to believe for it.”

8. Legacy, Generosity, and God's Multiplication

[1:45:00–2:00:00]

• Jesse shares how he is preparing his daughter Jody for stewardship of his legacy, encouraging her to double and triple the blessing, not break it up.
  • “Now, what I’ve done here, take it as a seed. Double it, triple it.” — ([1:49:30])
• Examples from history, like Cornelius Vanderbilt and John D. Rockefeller, illustrate generational stewardship and the value of tithing and running God’s business like a business.

9. Final Impartation and Prayer of Agreement

[2:12:00–2:20:00]

• Emphasizes the “power of two” – agreement in prayer for dreams and needs to be met.
  • “All they needed was a two. I’ll be the two.” — Jesse ([2:13:53])
• Decrees abundance and answers for every listener: physically, financially, and spiritually.
  • “Dreams have no expiration dates. Tell Him what you want, and I don’t care how much it is, because He didn’t ask you to pay for it. He asked you to believe for it.” — ([2:16:28])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Money:
  “Money don’t make you happy, but it make you comfortable while you’re miserable.” — Jesse Duplantis ([08:32])

• On Fellowshipping with Faithful People:
  “If you surround yourself with small minded people, we need to get pushed and stretched and go up to that higher place, cause there’s so much more we have to do.” — Cathy Duplantis ([05:35])

• On Walking in Faith:
  “Budgets cost you something. Vision brings you something...I will never present God something possible anymore as long as I ever live. I’m going to give Him something impossible.” — Jesse ([1:30:45])

• On Abiding in Christ: “Abiding is much better than visiting...Christ in you, not on you, around you and about you. In you, the hope of glory.” — Jesse ([46:40])

• On Faith and the Impossible: "Tell Him what you want. And I'll do it. Now how He does it, gonna blow your socks off." — ([2:16:49])

• On Power:
  "You must be superior to that power instead of driven by it. Jesus was superior to power." — Jesse ([32:05])

Important Timestamps

• 00:00–02:10: Opening remarks, fellowship stories
• 02:10–06:30: Cathy Duplantis on divine connections, early ministry, Copelands
• 06:30–07:36: The impact of others' opinions on faith
• 07:36–13:00: Jesse’s testimony: poverty, wealth, disappointment, radical faith-giving
• 23:40–32:00: John 15 - Abiding & Christian productivity explained
• 42:00–54:00: "Abiding is better than visiting;" practical holiness and temptation
• 1:22:00–1:40:00: Million-dollar provision & difference between vision and budget
• 1:50:00–2:10:00: Miracles: healing testimonies
• 2:12:00–2:20:00: Impartation—prayer of agreement, power of partnership
• 2:13:53: "All they needed was a two. I'll be the two." (Prayer)
• 2:16:28: "Dreams have no expiration dates. Tell Him what you want..." (Word of encouragement)

Conclusion

The message calls believers to abide in Christ—not just visit Him occasionally in church or crisis. Through bold faith, radical giving, living in union with Jesus, stewardship, and believing beyond the natural, Jesse Duplantis underscores that all things are possible, dreams can and should be big, and God is both able and willing to do “exceeding abundantly.” Vision, partnership, and abiding are the keys to a fruitful, blessed—and blessing—life.

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