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Abiding Is Better Than Visiting | Jesse Duplantis | Holy Ghost Meetings 2024 | Tuesday AM
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Such an honor to be here. We got to talking. You know, what people don't understand? I fly in and I fly out. I don't care if I'm in California, I'm fly back in New Orleans. But last night we stayed over and I slept about three hours last night and all that kind of stuff. And the Lord was dealing with me about some different things, and. And I had such a wonderful time sitting there with everybody eating and things of that nature. And it was a blessing. I said, my. I gotta apologize to Nancy because they kept asking me questions. And, man, we went from God to the Mafia. It was wow, boy. And I can. Actually. I realized last night how much I miss. I travel so much. I'm gone all the time and running, you know. But I sure enjoyed the fellowship with you people that were at our table and everything of that nature. It was just fun. And I talked to my daughter this morning, and she said, hey, dad, sound like you're having fun. I said, damn, bless it, you know. She said, would you do me a favor, dad? And I didn't know what she was going to say. She didn't say that yet. At this moment. She said, don't die, dad. Don't die. I said, well, I'm not planning on it. I said, but if Jesus tarries, you gonna die, too. I said, never be afraid. I said. I said, but, you know, let's just believe for Jesus to come in our lifetime. So I told the man, he said, well, that ain't. He ain't coming in our lifetime. But I said, then you gonna die. Enjoy your death. But I want to go out on that first load. You know, God is good. And I like to honor my wife. Cause she's been with me for 53, going on 54 years. So, Nancy, if you don't mind, if you can give her that microphone, I'd like her to come up. Come on, Cat. Come up and say something here. This is Catherine. Catherine Carrer Duplantis.
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Carer Duplantis. Such a blessing to be with all of you. And it's true, we don't often get the time to fellowship like we did. And last night, it was so wonderful and so rich. And so my heart was going out to all the people that I know. Y' all been hitting it every day. So I'm trying to hint to him, but he just was in his element, loving telling all those stories. Which I have heard so many times. And I thought, you know, Nancy's heard that one before. But, you know, if she's like me, I've heard him more than anybody, and I still love hearing him. I still laugh along. He doesn't pay me to laugh. Lord, it. Well, not directly. That's gonna cost you. No, I'm kidding. But we have fun. We love the Lord. We love ministering. We love. I love it when I can go with him and see how God is moving in so many places. And this year, coming up in 2024, we have many international trips planned. We're so thankful that God has given us the tool to do that. And like Nancy was saying, it did not come overnight, but it came. But it had to start somewhere. It had to start with our believing. It had to start with divine connections. When we connected with other people of, like, precious faith. You know, in the early days when we first started believing for the big things, we couldn't share it with so many people, with hardly anybody, actually. Most people we would go to and tell them that we were gonna believe for a plane, they'd roll their eyes or they'd jerk. You know, they do their thing. But I remember the time that we connected with somebody of, like, precious faith that said, yeah, you can do that. We actually connected with the Copelands. And Jesse flew airline for night for the first 18 years of ministry. I watched him, drove him to the airport, picked him up all those years going to all these places and wearing himself out. But he. God kept giving him new energy. So it was wonderful. But we. We knew where God was taking us. And so I remember we connected with the Copelands, and they said, why don't you come to our ministry? We'll open up every door. Go sit with any department you want to. That was really eye opening for us. I always was the editor of the magazine, so I look forward to meeting with Missy, who was Gloria's sister, who was over marketing at the time and over the magazine. She says, you know, I've been looking at y' all's schedule, and I've noticed how busy you are. Jesse, y' all really need an airplane.
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Now.
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We. We had been believing for that, oh, I don't know, maybe 10 years by that time, but we had this little answer, and we thought it sounded so religious. And we said, well, yes, we know that's true, but every bit of income that we are getting extra, we're buying airtime because we were on TV maybe five or six years by that time. I don't know the exact timing, but. And she just stared at us. You know, we thought it was a holy righteous thing to say. We encountered somebody who knew the word of God and who had been around and had been taught by Gloria and Kenneth, of course. And she says, well, why don't you just do both? And you know, nobody had ever told us, why don't you just do both? Most everybody else we shared our vision with rolled their eyes and shrugged and just, you know, you can tell when it bounced back. That's why meetings like this are so important when you connect with people of like precious faith that get it, you don't have to explain it to somebody. Reminds me of a blonde joke. Y' all ready for a blonde joke? This blonde joke I heard. Well, these two blonde jokes, these blonde girls were walking along the side of the riverbank, one was on each side and they started visiting and talking back and forth. And so one of them says after a while, you know, she's thinking, I'd like to get close to this girl. Maybe instead of shouting across the river, let's just let me cross over to the other, let's find another way across. And she says to the other girl, how do you get to the other side? And the blind girl says, you're already on the other side. So you have to realize when you've been walking with people that don't get it and start changing your company. Hallelujah. Cause we're all going somewhere and we're not gonna get where we're gonna. God wants us to go. If we surround ourselves with small minded people, we need to get pushed and stretched and go up to that higher place. Cause there's so much more we have to do. Amen.
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Amen.
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So I remember that day when Missy said, why don't you just do both? It's like the light bulb went on. It's actually not a light bulb. Stadium lights went on and we just. And I both looked at each other and it wasn't long, wasn't even a year I think, till all that started falling into place.
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We were letting people's opinions dictate to us and not what God was saying.
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And not just that. Our perceived opinion that they would have. So it limited us from the sharing. Sometimes just sharing it needed to stretch them and we didn't matter what they looked like. But they started thinking, well, he's believing for that. Why don't I believe for that? So I think that's part of why God has called us to stretch and believe for Big is because Other people need to realize, yeah, your dream can be accomplished too. Hallelujah.
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Praise the Lord.
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Well, we're so glad that we're here today. We love Nancy. We love y' all so much. Morgan and Steven and I haven't got to meet your other son, so Grant and your children, but we just love this place. And we thank God that there's a place where the spirit of God can move unhindered. And we love being with y' all and it's been a true joy. God bless you.
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Ask my wife Kathy. Give her a hand clap. You know, I was raised very poor and I wasn't ashamed of that. You know, mom and dad did the best they could. Me and my brother would sleep on the floor on an 8 foot wide, 32 foot trailer. That's a camper. We sleep on the floor. I didn't care. I still like sleeping on the floor. I really do. I mean, it's just amazing. Kathy will come find me laying on the floor. What are you doing laying on the floor? And as a very young man, I began to make a lot of money in the rock world. I was on the same circuit as Led Zeppelin and, you know, girls screaming and I mean screaming. The young people. That's your grandma doing that. Your grandma was screaming. And money was the most disappointing thing of my life. I thought, boy, if I could just get enough money, you know, as a kid growing up, I could get anything I want. Well, I hit 20 years old, 20, 21. And I'm knocking down money. And I remember I could do anything I want. We were in Dallas and the bed was full of money, plus money in the bank. I mean, it was just money. And I asked Kathy, how come I'm not happy. I was so disappointed. Money don't make you happy, but it make you comfortable while you're miserable. Just want you to know that it makes you comfortable while you miserable. That's a good statement. Write that down. I'll help you. And I thought, I just been thinking wrong. Of course, when I got born again, not knowing anything about other than the Holy Roman Catholic Church, they take a vow of poverty. So I told Cathy, we got to give all our money away now. The church didn't want me because my head was still a little long. I had that flair. But they sure took that money. And I thought, well, Kathy, we're going to be a Christian. And we were happy. I didn't know anything about sowing and reaping. I was always generous as a sinner, but I never thought of it. As sowing and reaping. I said, maybe you want something like that, you know, whatever. I gave a pastor One time $8,000 in cash. Pulled it out of my pocket and with a Levi jacket and a ball of money, he's just looking at me. And I said, you don't buy drugs with a check. It's true. He took the money and that was okay with me. But I had my Abraham moment and we gave away our money. The first one was a lot of money. That was the easy part because we were sick of the world. Second one, got a job. I'll say this, then I'll get it. Stay right there, Roy. I'll be with you in a minute. And the Lord, you know, I got a regular job, mortgaged a house, financed the car like normal people. And the Lord spoke to me, said, give me all your money now. I didn't say this, but I thought it, I'm going to pay for this house note. I'm going to pay this car note. But I never said it. See, take no thought saying, see thoughts. When you say them, they become yours. So I said, okay. I walked in and said, kathy, the Lord just spoke this, let's give us all the money. Let's do it. So we did. Now, when I say that, I mean going to your daughter's piggy bank, taking out the little thing at the bottom and giving the quarters. We had zero. I said, now, Kathy, the only way we can go is up because this is as low financially every dime. I walked back outside the house. The Lord told me. I felt the Lord say this. And I had my Abraham moment. He gave me. He said it in King James, because thou has done this and not withheld from me, I'm gonna bless you beyond your wildest dreams. I didn't think about money. I would have thought about that when I was a sinner. The money wasn't the thing. I just thought, oh, okay. I thought, maybe I just get to. Maybe I can get close and talk and know something about this God. And within was it Kathy, nine or 11 months, we were totally debt free. And Nancy still don't know till today how we did that. Now I took some extra work. I don't know. It just happened. And I remember I had a great idea. I said, God, I can touch the world. He said, you think so? I said, yeah, but I need $100 million. I need $100 million. He said, okay. He gave me $100 million. I was back in eight months. I said, Thought I could do it. I needed another 100 million. I put 200 million in this thing. I can do it. He said, okay, gave me another hundred million dollars. That's $200 million. I came back five times. On the fifth one, I said, lord, he said, you need another hundred million dollars. And I said, the world's expensive. Billion dollars. You think you could do that? Apple is now worth over $3 trillion. You know, I mean, that's the. And they don't have enough money to touch the world. And you worried about asking God for too much. You see what I'm saying? But then he told me this statement, make me wealthy. And I thought, look like you're doing pretty good. God, I mean, you know, you got pearly gates and gold streets and diamond bearer Jasper, onyx, ruby. And you know what he told me? He said, I don't count my wealth that way. I count my wealth by the souls I possess. Now you go get them. I'm almost 75 years old, or 27,000 days, whatever you want to call it, something like that. And I'm about the Father's business. People say you're going to retire. I said, do I look tired? I don't think so. I could. That's why I was totally wrong, too. I thought as I got older, my ministry would decrease, which is okay with me because, you know, they want younger people. I said, me and Kathy can go to Honolulu and just suffer for Jesus the rest of our life. But that hadn't happened with me. My ministry is increasing, ever increasing, but that's when I believe. So this is just a little hors d' oeuvre to what I'm about ready to speak. Come quickly. Many of you hit the book and tape table last night. All that books and tapes, and that's all my money. That shocks you. That's all copyrighted not by Jesse Duplant's Mysteries. Jesse Duplant. I know what I own. And even the IRS said, this man's smart boy. He knows how. He does not do that. I said, no, no, but I gave it half a billion dollar and I gave it all to God's work. Which kind of makes the irritating of the irs. You know, if you'd have took this money, we'd have got 200 million, went home with $300 million. I said, yeah, but if I give it to God, you don't get nothing. Now people say, why'd you do that? I want to get out of here. When this gospel is preached to the world for a witness means they got to see something. The end shall Come. That's why I hope all of you, if you're not a partner with Nancy's ministry, become one. She's got that anointing of healing, but she also has all that. I'm going to tell you something. This thing will flow like Niagara Falls. Boy, ain't no shortage of money. Just in the wrong hands. But it was made for your hands. And then you use it to God's glory. And he don't care if you have a nice house or a nice car. You can have two cars. You can have several houses. Deuteronomy 8 says, when you have built beautiful houses, go read it. It says that and dwell in there. Then go down to verse 18. Thou shall remember the Lord thy God, for it is he that giveth thee power to get well. You see what I'm saying? It's just a tool. And I want you blessed. And me and Kathy have been debt free since 1982, have no concept of debt and in any way, shape or form. Brother Copeland get mad at me when I say this, because he don't borrow no money, no nothing. Borrowing money, I don't have a problem with that because Abraham was the lender. So somebody gotta borrow it for you to be a lender. But you see, it's better to be a lender because the power seat is yours. You know, like, if you're gonna buy a business, never buy 51%. Don't go 50, 50. That's church problems. You got to be 51, 49 that you have what we call controlling interest. Then you can dictate what God wants. Real quickly, this book here, I wrote this because I was christened and confirmed the Catholic Boy. It became a number one best seller. It was in hardcover. It's called Warning of God. I can talk to this kind of thing. Hello, Jesus. Hi, Jesse. I like that. I like conversation. It's just such a blessing to be able to talk to God like that. And people always ask me, how long do you pray? I said, I'm not going to tell you that. Because if you think it's not enough, you're going to be critical. Or if you think it's too much, you're going to be critical of yourself. You pray the way you want to pray. But I'll tell you this. I don't pray a lot because that's asking God all kinds of things. That's good. Don't misunderstand. I just like conversation. I got up this morning, my divorce. I said, hey, how you doing? He said, I'm doing good. I said, how'd it do last night? He said, I came. You did? Well, I hope you can get this book warning of God. I can talk to you. Anybody wants this book. Come on, brother. You can come get that right there. That'll be right there. Hallelujah. Thank you. Oh, you're welcome, sir. And then I was in my study at my home, and the Lord said, how do you spell faith? I said, what? I hear God like you're hearing me. I said, f, A, I, T, H. He said, if you don't know what it is, you'll never get it. He said, what's the definition of faith? I said, Hebrews 11, verse 1. Speak it now. Faith is a substance. Not tomorrow, not next week. Now, faith is something hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. The second verse is way more powerful. For by it, the elders obtain a good report. Somebody making a report on you today. The report is going to be read to God. He said, look at the word faith. If you don't know what it is, you'll never get it. And I looked at the word faith, and the word it is right in the middle of it. If you don't know what it is, you won't get it. I wrote this little book, you can read this thing 20 minutes or 30 minutes, something like that, and it'll bless you. Who else? Anybody want this handle over there? Roy? And then this here is one of my themes that God gave me entitled Joe. Everything is his. Anything. You got to understand something about. You cannot break God. You can't impress him. You please him only by walking in faith because it's impossible to do anything else. He will not. I don't care what you do. I know people give like crazy because they got money, but they don't live by faith. They're not pleasing to God at all. You see, because on your best day, you can't impress God. I mean, you got asphalt streets, he's got gold streets. And you're gonna try to tell me what you think is expensive. Your everything is anything. And that's St. John 14. He said, ask anything. This is what church will say. Well, I know he said that, but that's your problem. You need to get your but out the way. See, you're already making a provision for failure. So don't get mad if you fail because your faith worked. Okay, who needs. Who wants this here? Yes, sir, we can have that. And if you got your Bibles or your iPads or your telephone, whatever you use for the Bible scripture. Turn with me to the book of St. John 15, I felt led Lord, to end my session here. And I thank you Nancy, for allowing me to stand behind your pulpit. And I tell every minister here, be careful who you put behind your pulpits because they need to treat it like the holies of holies. That's where the word of God is broken and fed to people. You know what I mean? And it's just, it's a blessing. But you know, I know some word of faith people, they got this kind of attitude, let me bless you with my presence. You could have stayed home, sucker. I don't need you to bless me now. I know that sounds hard, but who do you think you are? Jesus, man. So when I'm asked to preach in the Catholic Church, and I'm the only one in the state of Louisiana that I know of that's been asked by the Archdiocese of the Holy Roman Catholic Church to preach in their churches and I do it. I wanted to preach at St Patrick's Cathedral in New York. And I got the invitation. I thought, man, Jesus, this is going to be something, you know. But Cardinal o', Connor, he developed cancer and died. So I couldn't do that kind of stuff. I preach in Jewish synagogues. I didn't know where to stand. It's not like this. And I asked the rabbis, I said, why did you ask me? You see very interesting things. I said, rabbi, don't you know Jesus is Jewish? What's the matter? You don't like your own people? He said, that's what I'm talking about. You say such interrupt, you come anytime you want. You know, I got criticized for doing it by Christian people. What'd you preach on? The God of Abraham, which is Christ. And they just loved it. You see with the interesting thing, preaching should never supersede thought. It should make you think. So let's think some things today. St. John, chapter 15. I love it when Jesus is talking. Cause it's in red. His words are so hot, they just turn red. St. John, chapter 15, verse 1. I am the true vine. Well, if he's the true vine, then there's some other vines that are not true. See, he's a double edged sword, the word of God. But there are other double edged swords. You have to know which one is his. I am the true vine and my father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit, he taketh away. And every branch that beareth fruit, he purged it, that it may bring forth more fruit. You notice God is in the productivity now. You created in his image. So you need to be in productivity. The difference is he's a vine and you a branch. But yet the life that's flowing from the blind can only manifest in the branch. Watch this verse three. Now you are clean through the word. Well, I accept that face value. People say, you're not this. I said, no, I'm clean, son. I'm totally clean. Who do you think you are? Clean right there. Called me. He said, jesse, I know you like planes. You got all kind of. You need to get one of them big ones. One of. I don't always call them things with a shower in it. I said, ronnie, when I go to the meeting, I'm already clean. He busts all that. I mean, it's nice to have a shower, I guess, if you want. But I'm already clean, you know, I made sure I took a shower. I took a shower this morning. Glory to God. You know, my God, he just roared. I like Ronnie, you know, it's so wonderful. That's just gone. Wonderful people out there. It's such a blessing. He says, now you're clean through the word which I have spoken. Why am I clean? Because he expunged my record. I said this in the back a while ago. I can remember things God can't. He can't remember my sin. He look at me go, that boy clean. That's why he make me look like Mr. Clean. See that? And I wish I had Mr. Clean's body. That old boy built good. Verse four. Abide in me. Not in homiletical, hermeneutical, philosophical, theological thought. Not in Baptist, Methodist, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Church of God, Church of Christ, word of faith, full Gospel, Assemblies of God. Can you imagine how confusing that is to people that don't understand Christianity? We're the right one, but what about the rest of these people? Abide in me. So is it possible that Christ in you the hope of glory is a living reality? Should be. He said, abide in me and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself. But quit beating the bushes to try to get something to work, except it abide in the vine. No more can you, except ye, abide in me. I am the vine. I am. I am that I am. Ye are the branches. He that abideth in me and I in him. The same bringeth forth much fruit. Any say, little fruit, some fruit, much fruit. Because you were built and created for productivity, to produce spiritual, physical and financial. None of you should have financial trouble. None. But the reason why it's not really at Your fault is the church taught poverty. And if you got blessed and they criticized you, is that a new dress? And you go, I got it on sale. But thank God you got it on sale. It's not the issue. But if you didn't, it didn't make no difference anyway. Read verse five again. I am the vine, you are the branches. He that abideth in me and I am the same bringeth forth much fruit. Watch this. For without me you can do nothing. Write this down. We must have a living union with Christ. Not a living union with a denomination or a non denomination or interdenomination. What I'm saying. I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm just saying is this has got to be personal. Christ in you. Not on you, around you and about you. In you. The hope of glory here. Why? Who do you think you are? A branch that life is flowing from a vine because I can't do nothing. I got people saying this about this new plan I got. They say, my God, you're the first one ever done. I said, don't say that. I don't want to be by myself. I'm not trying to. I'm not in competition with anybody. I'm in cooperation. If you want to cooperate with me yet. I mean, Andrew Wommack, one of my good friends, he said, you know, he's so funny. I'll tell you something, Jesse. I got some people telling me I shouldn't have you, but they don't know you. I said, what did I do wrong? He said, I don't know. I said, you know, Andrew, you need to get excited. He says, I am excited. I love Andrew. I can. We have such the finest times. I mean, it's just. He carries my magazine around with him. He said all these quotes and these, you know, these. He puts them in his pockets, you know what I'm saying? And I preach at his school and I just love him, you know, And I'm glad. I'm so glad. See, I'm not the man that said, I don't care if you got a church of 20, I'm glad you got one now. It's not going to stay 20. Why? Because he created you. To produce productivity, we must have a living union with Christ. So that's how I have conversation with the Lord. Hello, Jesus. Hi, Jesse. I like that, a living union. What makes a good marriage is you talk to each other. That's called a living union. You see what I'm saying? Our life is a branch life. Write that down. It is Incomplete in itself. That's why I don't do these things. Well, you know, you didn't. No, I didn't do that. Christ in me, the hope of glory did that. I'm not trying to be humble here. I. I'm just telling you. If I was that good, why didn't I do it 45 years ago? Yeah, come on. That's right. I would have done it. I'm not that good, see? But I do know that he can do all things. Not just something, but all things now. Oh, that's it. People go, amen. No, no. All things in every area. And I say that to the biggest bankers. I say that to the hedge fund operators on Wall street. Just like I said to someone that don't even know what a hedge. They. They think a hedge is something you cut with some clippers, you know. They don't know, you know. Cause that's not their world. That's fine. The hedge fund operator ain't smarter than you are. He's just in his field and you in your lane, you see? So when you understand that. That the branch is incomplete in itself. I was saying this, and I want to explain this. People say, how do you make money? I don't make money. I generate money. Making money. You got to beat the bushes, boy, before, you know, you go home. In fact, I need three more meetings and get 15 more offerings. It's never enough. Why? Because you making it, see, no, not God. You generate it by your demeanor. You generate it by your seed, you see? And when you understand that and that generator. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't care if everybody's out of. There's no electricity generators on. See, you got. You got electricity. Everybody was so mad at me doing Hurricane Ida and all. All the lights is out. I got it generated by Jesus, I guess, from the drums to about right here. Huge, man. My house is all lit up. They're going, ah, ah. And I just went outside and went, Well, I mean, they went acting like a fool. They could have had it. Can you believe he got that generator on. You in the dark, fool. It produces light, and people notice it when you generate. You see what I'm saying? And I tell people that. I'm not just telling that. For you to give them my ministry, the anointing of an increase is on me. I got to watch what I say because I get it. I gotta be real careful. Cause you must be superior to that power instead of driven by it. See, a lot of people are driven by that power. That's why politicians mess up. That's why preachers mess up. They're driven by power instead of being superior to it. Jesus was superior to power. Don't you know I can call more than 12 legions and angels to handle this situation? Let me show you how much power that is. One angel knocked down 185,000 men in about one. If 12 legions of angels would have showed up at the beck and call of Jesus, 20,400,000,000 men would have bit the dust and the lick, bam, gone. But because he was superior to that power, instead of driven by it, he went to the cross. So you didn't have to go. See my point? Just because you got power to do something don't mean you have to do it. Our life is a branch life. What flows from God flows through me. The fruit. Now don't get mad at me. Comes out of me. Okay, you didn't get that? The fruit doesn't come out the trunk. That's what a source of power is. But it comes out the branches. But yet a lot of the world is fruitless, especially the church world. Well, we did the best we could. That's why you messed up. That's beating the bushes again. We're not asking you to do the best. He didn't ask you to do the best you could. He asked you to do the best he could. And when you understand that, you'll understand this. Jesus is the moral stem of humanity. Abiding is more than acknowledging God's existence. Title of this message is abiding is better than visiting. See, a lot of people visit a church they don't abide. Abiding is much better than visiting. Let me say it again. Jesus is the moral stem of humanity. Abiding is more than acknowledging God's existence. I mean, even the devil believes in God. Now if I have this moral stem of humanity, oh, and I'm going to shake up some people, then I should have a very hard time sinning unless I make myself. That's I get in the flesh and do it. I'm gonna say something, and I mean this. I don't sin every day. Oh, that make boy you talking about. Make the Christian world. I do not sin every day. The Bible said we've all sinned. I'm not a sinner now. I have sinned. We've all sinned come short of the glory of God all of a sudden. But I don't sin every day. I don't. I go long spirit along times without sinning. And the only time I ever had Is when I get in the flesh. You don't sin by yourself. I read a scripture one time that blew my socks off. He that willfully sinned, there remained no remission of sin for him. You know what I thought, David? That just threw me out. I said, oh, Jesus. I said, hey. So I went to the Lord about that. I said, I need to know some of this. I need a conversation here. I said, you said, if you willfully sin, there remain no remission for sin. He said, that's correct. I said, I willfully sin. He said, no, you haven't. I said, I think I have. You know, he's so holy. Maybe missing it here, you know. He said, no, you haven't. I said, God, I think I'm. I have. He said, no, you haven't, because you never sinned by yourself. I said, what? He said, you didn't have a sin by yourself. The Bible said, when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin. When sin hath conceived or finished, it bringeth forth death. So in that conversation, I asked the Lord this, how come you made a plan of redemption for me, but you didn't make a plan of redemption for Satan? He said, because he willfully sinned. I said, I willfully sin. He said, no, you didn't. You've never sinned by yourself. He said, you had a tempter pulling you, pulling you to do this. He said, satan had no tempter. He said, I will exalt myself. Go get the boost. I will exalt myself above the most high God. I will sit in the congregation of the North. Oh, not a tempter. Willful as there was no remission of sin. Isn't that good. See abiding. Not just visiting. So I don't have trouble with women. I got a lot of women following me. I'm not lying. I mean. I mean, they call them. They say they. Jesse. Groupies. Now, if you don't know what a groupie is, you gotta be in a music business. Understand what groupies are. And I've had men go, hey, Bridget, you know they got a lot of women follow you. I said, does that bother you? I said, your problem is you see a woman as a sexual object to be conquered. That's your problem. One preacher told me one time, I gotta talk to you. I got lust in my life. Lust, lust, lust. What should I do? I said, tell your wife. She'll stop it. You shut that baby down, son. I told him that. He said, I can't do that. I said, well, I'm Gonna tell her? No, no, no. I told her. I said, your husband's in lust. She said, I'll handle that fool. I'm trying to save his family, his ministry. I'm not the ugliest man in the world. I get hit on every once in a while. Can you believe it? I'm almost 75 years old. And when a woman don't want me, they want my wallet. They want me. And it's such a joke to me. I've said the devil. That's all you got. That's all you got. This is all you can do this. He's on the limits of retardation. He is smaller today than he was yesterday. He's decaying constantly. Even the Bible said that thousands of years ago. When they see him, this. This. This thing, this is what they see the nation. Well, how do you do that? Abiding is better than visiting Christ. In me, the hope of glory. Christ is absolutely indispensable to the world and vital to the life of men. I've had to tell people that didn't like me. I said, let me tell you something. You didn't invite me to the party, but I'm coming to that party because I'm the only one that can read that handwriting on that wall. Mark my word. You can throw me to the dog, son, but one day, you gonna call me because you can't read that handwriting on that wall. I can read that handwriting on that wall. Oh, and I've seen it happen so many times. Oh, there's prosperity. It's amazing how me and Brother Copeland just get slammed all the time. And Jerry Savelle. And I said, why Jerry? He said, because I'm God's favorite. I love Jerry. Jerry's a great friend of mine. I'm just a blessing of God. And he talks prosperity all the time. People go, oh, that's Jerry. Let's kill Kenneth and Jesse. That's the one we got to kill. But the reason why they can't, because God Christ is absolutely indispensable to the world and vital to the life of men. So I tell people, you need me. I'm not trying to get something from you. I want to get something to you. I had a guy tell me. He said, my guy had been struck. I'm going to say this. Some of you may not like this. And I had been going to his church for 10 years. 10 years. He said, I just can't seem to get out of debt. I said, I never asked. I never charged people all my expenses. I never even When I go overseas, I receive an offering not to meet the expenses. Why would I do that? That's my seed into your life. Any finances given me goes to projects. I'm already taken care of. He says, I just don't understand. And the Lord said, tell him. I said, I don't want to. Tell him, God. Tell him. Jesse. I said, let me ask you a question. Have you ever added anything to this offering? Now, you know how you said that last night about offering, that you would add to it? No. I said, you know, God's been sending me to you for 10 years so you get out of debt. You complete idiot. He sent you a lifeboat and you won't get in the boat. I don't need your money, man. But you need what I have. See, if you went to a Nancy Dufresne meeting, you wouldn't have a problem getting healed. Because you believe in healing. You. You go to Benny's, you know, you're healing. I mean, you don't go to Benny's and say, hey, Benny, can you talk to me about love? No, you think, benny, you know, I want to get my healing. And I said, the time of my departure is at hand. I can't come back here no more. Cause you just won't listen. I said, it's not that I want your money. I don't need your money, man. But you won't listen. And I stayed away six years. I felt bad about it. God didn't. I said, lord, I feel bad about it. He said, why? He's a fool. I can call him a fool. Finally, the Lord said, I want you to go back, help him. It's amazing how people got to get fall into the ditch of life before the light comes on. I said, no, you ready to receive? And I looked at him, I said, Within 11 months, this thing will be debt free. You think so? No, I don't think so. I know so. And it was. And then he said that I could slap myself. I could have had that years ago, but you would not see, our powers or our powers are literally part of the creative energy of Christ. Do you know, as a minister of the gospel, when you come, it's like Jesus walking through the door. Don't get mad at me about saying that. I mean, that's St. John 1 verse. All things were made by him in the beginning was the Word. The Word was God. The Word was with God. Well, where does God live and reside? Christ, in you, the hope of glory. What I'm saying is our powers are literally part of the Creative energy of Christ. That's an amazing. I know you're thinking on that. That's an amazing statement. Because, see, you've been told all your life, you ain't much of this. You're not much of that. My God, man, out of almost 9 billion people on the planet, he chose you. Now, what are the odds of that happening? I mean, if you was a gambler, you wouldn't gamble on that. It's amazing to me. You come bringing Christ and God thinks you look good. Because the only Jesus some people may ever see is the Jesus in you or the Jesus in me. I say that constantly, all the time. I tell people, look at me. What do you see? And, you know, I've seen people so depressed, and they go. I see it cracking. I can handle the pressure. Oh, I said, I can get you out of that. I make it. It's so small. Despondency, discouragement, disappointment. I can handle all that. Hey, listen to me. I love that. I hardly ever go to hospitals, but I really like them intensive care units, because they all in there, I guess. Especially the ones waiting in the waiting room in the intensive care. I just walk in there and I don't go to hospitals much because I'm not a pastor, you know. But I decided to go one day. I just walked in there, I said, hello, everybody. Look like y' all sad. Lord, they'll just look at me. I said, you have sick people in there. Yeah, they dying. I said, would you like them to live? We can't even go in there. I said, you can go with me. I got a card. I'm an ordained doctor of divinity. Follow me. Opened the door and the nurse said, excuse me. I said, excuse me, ma'. Am. I'm Reverend Dr. Jesse Duplantis. Go away. They go, call security. I said, you come with me, too. I need witnesses to this. I said, now. This is your husband? Yeah, my sick. You got that smell. You know that? I say, how you doing, man? They say, I'm dying with cancer. I said, do you want to. No. I said, do you want your husband to die? This is happening right in front of everybody. Take a lot of guts. No, don't take no guts. Just takes obedience. It's not me talking. Christ in me. Jesus couldn't go to funerals. He messed them up. You're trying to bury somebody. He said, get up. The guy said, I never wanted to be dead anyway. I'm just gonna go home. He don't care about you spending all the money on the funeral. I said, we Come to pray for you. And I look at a big cop. I said, pray with me. He goes, I didn't have. Well, suppose. Suppose he dies. Suppose it don't work. Where'd you learn that from? You need to unlearn that. See, your powers are literally part of the creative energy of Christ. When I see you flowing in that healing anointing. That's not Nancy. That's Christ in Nancy. And all you do is following it as he does the work. Jesus said, I'm the bread of life. That's something good to eat. I'm the light of the world, so you can't walk in darkness. I'm the way. And if Jesus is the way, you can't get lost. I'm the truth. And if he's the truth, you cannot be deceived. And I'm the life. If he's the way, the truth and the life, then the devil can't kill you. Now he says, I'm a fourth person. I am the true vine. And I have people try to argue with me religiously or, well, you know, Buddha, You know, Muhammad. Now I'm just going to have to say what I said, okay? So don't freak out here because I'm flying out of here right after this service. I was on a flight. What makes you think Jesus is the El supremo? I said, you ever been on a flight flying somewhere? Yeah. Did the plane get in trouble? I've been down in three airplane crashes that'll make a Baptist speak in tongues. A Catholic woman will pray over your pearls like a rosary. Oh, Hail Mary and all back tithe is paid for just that way. Just get that plane down without killing us all. I said, you ever been on one where you start a little trouble, you get a little nervous? I said, I've been on a bunch of them. I've heard people literally scream. Jesus can. Boy, you never heard screaming in fear like that because you can't do nothing about it. You latched in a seat, you can't even see the pilots, the planes doing this and everything. You're going down. And it's amazing how they use God's word to damn him when God doesn't damn anybody. I never heard anybody going down on a plane that said buddha damn. I never heard anybody go, muhammad. You know what I heard? Jesus. That's abiding. I had a guy one time on a plane with Delta Airlines. I always used to sit in the aisle seat before I had my, you know, aisle seat. I used to like bulkhead, so you could get out quick. Well, I had a window seat and by the right over the wing. So I took my Bible out like this. And this guy looks at me, said, excuse me, you a preacher? I said, yeah. I didn't know who he was. I said, yes, sir. I don't believe in your damn God. What I wanted to do was minister to him. I wanted to lift my hands up. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hit you in the nose. But I believe in healing. We're going to take the blood out your nose here in a minute. You want to dance with me? You want some of this, boy? I mean, I got hot. And then he pulls out a Hustler magazine and opposed to the centerfold. He said, what do you think of that, preacher? I got my Bible and I went to the Red Porch. I said, what do you think of that? Who, yourself. All of a sudden, this is when you could smoke on a plane. Ladies and gentlemen, fasten your seat belts. Put out all cigarettes. We're going to be encountering some turbulence. Everybody gets quiet. I look at the old boy. I can see him going. And then lightning hit the plane. Bam. Right there and hits the engine. And the engine explodes. Fire coming out the engine. Now, he's an atheist, this guy. He goes, oh, God. And I couldn't help myself. I looked at him, I said, he don't exist. Enjoy your death. I said, your blood and guts gonna be smeared all over. I said, well, we'll cover your face with your Hustler magazine. Okay? Go ahead, man. I was mad. Maybe I went a little too strong. But I couldn't help myself. People screaming and hollering. The Lord said, do something. I unbuckled that seat, stood up and said, in the name of Jesus, get out of here, devil. Get your hand off this plane. I said, everybody's gonna be fine because I'm on this plane. And they all went. They grasping for anything. That sounds arrogant, cocky. But when you're going down, you better believe what you saying. They shut that for how they did it, I don't know, man. But what I was thinking, there's fuel in that wing, and that engine's right there. By that fuel we landed. I mean. I mean, it got on. Busted one of the tires and all this kind of. It was rough. And this guy said, I'm so glad you was on that plane. And he said, me, too. When you hollered, man, he said, I was so in fear, I couldn't breathe. I thought, I need to take an offering. I'd get Some back tied here. But I didn't. You know, I said, how many of y' all go on to church Sunday? All of them live to heaven. I bet the church were full wherever they live. How could you do that, not be afraid? He's the true vine. He's the bread of life. He's the light of the world. He's the way, the truth, and my God, man, you can't lose with this. See, abiding is better than visiting. See, now, he said, for without me, you can do nothing. When I read that not only can you do nothing, but you're good for nothing. Not only can you do nothing, you're good for nothing. You can't do nothing without him. But he never leaves you or forsakes you. He's with you all the time. Jody, my daughter, I just love her. She's such a blessing. She said, dad, I've been knowing you a long time. Yeah. She's 52. She can't get over it. She worried about a wrinkle. Good God, can you believe that you got a daughter, 52? I said, yeah, I was there when you was born. I paid for you, Jodie. I got you out the hospital. You and your mama, they weren't looking for you, they were looking for me. Get you out the hospital. You know. I said, jodie, don't worry about any of that. She said, everything you touch prospers. I said, do you know why? She said, because of your faith. I said, that's only a very small part of it. I said, jody, I'm in the world, but I'm not of it. So what I do is I create my world and then I walk in it. Now, since I created my world, I know what's coming and I know what's going on. I don't live in your world. You do what you want to do. Now, you know, Mr. Duplano said, you know, you can't. We can't pay you that kind of money on interest because you know the. I'm not interested in what the government says. You want to use my money? You want my money, this is what it's going to cost you. We got a deal here. Somebody going to take this money, Is it you? Now, you don't want to, that's fine, go on. But somebody down the road gonna take his money. Baby, I'm not dictated. But what the world's doing. I'm in the world, but I'm not of it. That's how Jesus was. We'll kill you. I'll be back in three days. You see, I realize that I can't do nothing without him. And I'm good for nothing. But with Christ in me, I can do all things through Christ who strengtheneth me. So really, it's a pretty simple thing. Unless you put religion in it. And what is religion but a theological wilderness, A garden of weeds? Always telling you what you can't do. I already know what I can't do. Tell me what I can do. See, separation from Christ makes all your work have no enduring value. So when you separate, when you just visit instead of abiding, that's what happens. Everything you do has no enduring value. Nothing you have done will count in the final result. Let me say it again. Separation from Christ makes all your work have no enduring value. Nothing you have done will count in the final result. See, the word of God lacks nothing and is the cause of abundance. Scott is such a business guy. Every time I go to him, he always says, how much? What are you willing to believe? I told that to Morgan. Them there just a while ago, years ago. Listen, you know, I mean, 35, maybe 40 years ago, I was going to have a board meeting and I read a scripture said, present your petitions and supplication with Thanksgiving. I said, so I got my pencil and pad and I wrote out things that I wanted to do, you know. Cause I was going to have my board meeting the next day. And I'm sitting in my little office back there at number 12 Sohas Lane. Remember that guy, Lord Jesus? So I actually took the paper and I said, what do you think of this, Jesus? Present your petition and supplication with thanksgiving. And I felt the Lord looked at that and he went, jesse, there's no faith in this. Guess I got to go to the unemployment line, get my check. You just put me on the unemployment line. I said, what? He said, jesse, you determine this by last year's receipts? Ministry or business, whatever, you know, you knew what you made. Well, we're going to add a little bit more, but not too much. You know, we don't want to get crazy. So if you made a million dollars, well, we're going to believe for 1.1. Oh, $100,000. 50 is irrelevant. He said, you determined this by last year's receipts of Jesse the plant's mission? Yeah, just a little bit. I went, give me the paper. I tore it all up and I began to write stuff that I couldn't do. Not stuff I needed, stuff I wanted for his work. Boy, the next morning, remember we went to the board meeting. I said, pass this out to all the board. They went, good Lord, Jesse. I said, he is a good Lord. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You've never. And I just looked at him and smiled. I said, I will never present God something possible anymore as long as I ever live. I'm going to give him something impossible, baby. And do you know, I have fulfilled. He has fulfilled it every year since then. That's 40 years ago, man. When was that? And he met everything I wrote by October the first. Then I had November, October, November, December. Just over and above and beyond, give God a job. See, the word of God lacks nothing and is the cause of all abundance. Do you know all those people in that intensive care unit? They all got out, People were smiling, felt good to get rid of sadness. And they said, man, you got a healing ministry. I said, no, I don't. The Lord does. I just happened to come up and just kind of show you a side of Jesus you've never seen. Not one with a bleeding heart. People love Jesus. Kids love Jesus. He said, permit the children to come unto me, for such is the kingdom of God. Here's the disciples slapping the kids away. Get them kids out of here. Jesus said, no, let them come. Hmm. Now, I want you to listen to this thought because I'm holding you too long. But I want you to listen. When you are charged with God now. When you are charged with his thoughts, burned with his purpose, filled with his words, your will is in divine harmony with his will. When you are charged with his thoughts, think on these things. Burned with his purpose. Lord, what would Thou have me to do? Filled with his words, thus saith the Lord thy God. Your will is divine, Is in divine harmony with his will. It's coming to pass. What is? Prophecy. History wrote in advance. See if you want to know what to do tomorrow, prophesy today. Your faith will turn your prophecy, your faith will turn your request into prophecy. And instead of prayer, thus saith the Lord. It shall come. And I'm not worried about it if it don't come. That's not my world. He said, be a doer, not a donor. Well, you can't have that. Do you know how much that cost? No. I don't even deal. I have budgets, but I don't deal with budgets. Budgets cost you something. Vision. Bring you something. I just deal with vision. I know what gets people's attention. Vision. This don't get their attention. Won't you help me? Won't you help me, Lord? Help me if I don't hear you today oh, you ever seen these preachers bus? Stop crying, and you give them a million dollars. Boom, the tears are gone. Just cut it off. Whoa. How much money cost to fly that jet? I don't know. He didn't ask me to pay for it. He asked me to believe for it. Don't complicate that. I'll say this in close. Kathy loves Hawaii. I've been there 107 times. I could be a guide. We're walking, we're walking. I mean, I'm in all of them. And I've preached in all of them. Only one island I hadn't preached all, and that's the Robeson Island Neonaw. You have to be invited. There's no electricity on that island. None. It's like raw. Hawaii was. They call it Robertson island, but really it's Neo Na. Well, Kathy likes Maui and, you know, Honolulu. We've done it all. So every time I get a nice sweet bond, she comes walking to that room. And we've been with Jerry and Carolyn, boy. Carolyn just come opening up the curtains, man. And the wind's hitting the curtains, and they flying up. You know what they call them? Shears. And Carolyn goes, ooh, that's why I love. And Kathy does, too. So I get in. Kathy's opened up, man, and they're like two balconies. See? One on one side and one in the front, one on the side, so they can kind of walk around. Okay, that's fine. Whatever you want. So Kathy opens up. She says, jesse. And I said, what? Look at the ocean. I seen it. It's water. What's the matter with you? You need to learn how to relax. I said, I am relaxed. Don't you know Andrew Wommack? I'm rel. When she sunbathed, she don't want to go down to the pool. So she'll get a. What you call it? One of the things. And she'll actually sunbathe on the balconies. If the sun goes this way, she's on that side. She'll go this way. Whatever she wants to do, I don't care. And she's on my case. You need to relax, you know? My God, you've been preaching for 41 days, and here you are, you're trying to go to a church. What's the matter with you? I'm just smiling at her. And I said, why? God created Adam. And he went, I can do better. And he created Kathy. I mean, Eve. She wants me to be like. Been trying to find me a hobby for 53 years. I'm a worker. That's what I do. Anyway, she likes the Alamo. Anybody ever been to Honolulu? Oh, yeah. You ever been to the Ala Moana Mall? That's a mall. That third floor, that's where they hit you, baby. First floor, the second floor, that's for the normal people. You get to that third floor now you got Givenchy and Gucci. I mean, you gonna burn some dollars. You see? So I'm sitting in there in the suite and I'm just. It's nine o' clock in the morning. Kathy said, jesse, I'm going to. I'm going to the Ala Moana Mall. We don't rent cars. Cause you gotta park them suckers and they ain't no place to park. So we just get cabs. I mean, you can go cab. Makes it easy, you know. Not that expensive, but easy. She said, why don't you come with me to the mall? I said. I said, kathy, I'm gonna relax today. Oh. I said, you go on to the mall. And I closed all the curtains. I call, give me some room service, and I turn on Turner Classic Movies. I like the movies, man. I said, you have a nice time. I'm gonna sit right here, just enjoy myself. After I finish that, I'm gonna watch a little ESPN, see a little LeBron, you know, all kinds of. So she says, okay. As she was walking out of the thing, something hit me. I went, hey, Kathy, try to break me. You heard that woman. She said, what? I said, buy anything you see. Buy anything you want. Try to break me. Because, Mama, you can't break me. You cannot do that, son. First, I got too much seed in the ground, plus a lot of harvests all over the place. So do the best you can. Have a nice time. Boom, she left. I get a 9 o'. Clock. I get a phone call at 8 o' clock that night. Jesse. I said, you've been shopping 11 hours. Jesus. Meet me at Bubblegum's. We're gonna eat, okay? So I walked down there, got me a cab. I said, take me to Ala Moana Mall. Yes, sir. And I mean. And that's Kathryn. I walk up there, she's got the table, you know. I said, what did you buy? She said, nothing. I said, what? She said, I didn't buy nothing. I said, woman, you've been here since 9 o'. Clock, 11 hours. She said, you don't understand. Gotta scout out the land. Scouting. There wasn't one package. She said, but tomorrow cometh. But the next day, who? I mean, the people of Hawaii were excited because we helped the Hawaiian economy. And I got a cab and we got bags going in the back. And I'm like this with my feet trying to get. And this man said, I want to thank you for buying all this. I said, I didn't buy any of it. She did. I just paid for it. He said, y' all are helping the Hawaiian economy. And Kathy's not a greedy person. She gave away 22 Louis Vuitton purses. It wasn't a purse. Cost Louis Vuitton 22 of them. I like to give them to my friends. Okay, and it's your job to replace them. Okay, that's not that greedy. She can't break me. Sometimes she say, you got me any money? And I don't know where it's at. And just the other day, Jody's 52, I said, sit down, Jody. The day has come. What, dad, I'm gonna show you everything. I'm gonna show you what belongs you. She'll bust out crying, dad, I had no idea. Now, I'm not bragging about that. I said, all this comes to you. And remember, I didn't earn it. I didn't make it. I generated it and God gave it. Always remember that. And he'll do anything you can believe, but Jody can't do anything you can't believe. It really blessed me. Touched a heart. Dad, dad, you mean when you did that, that's what you made? Uh huh. Oh, Dad. I said, well, I didn't. The Lord just blessed us and honored us. I said, you my only heir. You and Meredith. But what about her husband? I hope Jay is watching. We like Jay. We like Jay. But you know, you know, there's people that have that big. That big. That big old there in California, that big, huge house. Hearse. Do you know, if you. If you marry a hearse and you not a hearse, you don't get any of the money that stays in the hearse family. That's right. If you ain't got the blood, yeah, you bloodless. He worked it out with lawyers and all that kind of crazy stuff like that. And now we don't do that with Jay, you know, all kind of stuff. You know, we like to bless him, you know, and he's a good guy. That's not the issue. But I said, jordan, I'm not bragging, please. Is this not arrogance? I said. I said, now what I've done here, take it as a seed. Double it, triple it. Well, you learned that from Cornelius Vanderbilt, one of the richest families ever. And he told his son, don't divide. Don't break up the money. Keep it. His son increased it five times. But then he made a mistake because the other kids and family were fighting and wanting this, and he broke it up. And the Vanderbilt fortune today does not exist. You know. You know who Anderson Cooper is? He's a Vanderbilt. That's Gloria Vanderbilt's son. And she made a little money on Gloria Jean's what I think of what you call it, but not what happened. Because they didn't know how to handle it. I said, now, Jodie, if Jesus tarries and me and your mom go by the way of the grave, handle this. Don't never break it up. Well, dad, I'm not as smart as you. I said, yes, you are. You're smarter than I am. You are. I taught you everything I know about God, you add him in and you, everything you do, you put him in it. What I was telling was, abide in me. Don't visit this thing. Abide. I don't know if I can handle it. Oh, I know you can. And you will. Now teach that to Meredith. Not hard. Ladies and gentlemen, it's going to require a little work. It's a four letter word, work. And guess what? You'll come to a point in your life. Like John D. Rockefeller Sr. Said, you're not rich until you don't know how much you got. They called him a ruthless businessman. He wasn't ruthless. He was just very good at, you know, he was the tither. Did you know that John D. Rockefeller Senior was a tither? Mama said you tithe Baptist. He loved God. They still trying to spend his money. Biggest wealth transfer ever. He turned all the money over to John D. Rockefeller Jr.he didn't want to be head of oil companies. He wanted to be a philanthropist. Rockefeller Senior owned 95, 97% of all fossil fuels and everything he did. The government got mad. They sort of broke him up. They broke him up into Exxon, Marathon Golf. But what they didn't the stupid government didn't understand, he had stock in all of them. So he was richer than he ever was. Again, A tither. They still trying to spend his money. You know how long ago that's been? Money won't last long if you do stupid stuff. I don't care how anointed you are. I don't care if you can raise the dead. If you don't run God's business like a business, you're awaiting bankruptcy. You know what I'm saying? You're awaiting here. Go Baby, you're awaiting bankruptcy. Kathy told me one time and changed the whole Southwest Believers convention. Ken said, come up here, Kathy, and say something. And Kathy said, my job is to bankrupt the devil. I thought, thank you, Jesus. She ain't bankrupting me. She's bankrupting the devil. And Kathy's not a greedy person in any way, shape or form. But I'm at the point in our lives now she can go get anything she wants. Cause she was there when we didn't have nothing and she didn't complain. Remember when we went to that store with $3 of pennies, bought that macaroni and cheese? I said, but Kathy, the Dallas Federation of Musicians attacked me, shut me down. I didn't know I had to be a part of the union. I said, okay. And I'm not a man. I'm not prideful. I had to feed that girl. So the place that I played, I. I got a job pulling weeds, and people would walk by. I said, I got to feed my family. I got to feed my wife. I got to do that. I didn't care. And then once that thing laid out about the Valley, then I went back and money began to flow again. But I didn't care. I'll do what I have to do. Pride. You can't eat pride, they said. But you're cutting grass and pulling weeds. Yeah, and I'm getting a check at the end of the week. See, it's not hard. It shouldn't be hard to any of you because you're a dead person. Dead people can't sin. It's not you that liveth, but Christ liveth in you. Now, I'll say this in close again in my last closing. How much do you want? Because if you don't know what you want, you're not going to know when you get there. And don't let the church call that greed. Because God tells us what he's want. You know what God wants. Go in the world and preach this gospel to every creature. I don't need it. I want it. For God so loved the world, he knew he had to start with a seed he gave. Stand to your feet. Pray in the Holy Ghost. For just a minute. I was asking the Lord here, how do you want me to end this? Because I can flow in the Holy Ghost. I love walking down the aisle. Isn't that something? That lady with that pickup truck. I saw it like I see you, ma'. Am. Somebody said, ain't nobody coming up there. But she did. Yeah. When you touch people's hearts, they Know when God's talking. Now me, I wouldn't have done that. I would do that in private. But God gonna do what he won't do. I want all your dreams to come to pass. I want maybe the next time I see you, somewhere down the road where, who, what where? That you'll say, I gotta think of other stuff to believe. Because he meant everything. I have no needs, none. Have a lot of wants. Not for myself, not trying to be humble. I just want this gospel preached to the world. We will accomplish that. We can all do it. You realize how powerful we are. And if we quit arguing and agree to disagree, me and Kathy on some scriptures, Nancy, I told her, I said, you're not right. Yes, I am. No, you not. And we argue. I said, if you want to be wrong, Kathy, just be wrong. She said, well, I'm not wrong if you want to be wrong, but we agree to disagree. And I just prayed, Lord, give her more revelation. She just don't quite understand this yet. And then she said, lord, help that old white headed friend, you know what I'm saying? And we just go back and then we come to a place of agreement. Oh, and if two of you agree, so how many of you have a dream, I'm going to do this in one. Hold your hand out. The Bible said two of you agree. Look at, let me get up here, get up here so I can see you. Yeah, Lord Jesus, I'll be you too. I'll be you two. Said if two of us agree, David, I'll be you two. All you need is a two. Don't need nothing else but a two. Somebody that say, I don't know. No, disagree with you, even if you don't understand it, take the person's hand next to you. Whoo. Heavenly Father, I pray. All they need is a tool. They want to do things for you, you want to do things for them. Both of you got the same idea in mind to do things for each other. Father, I ask you for every dream to manifest in the year 2024 that come 2025, if you should tarry, that they have to dream a new dream. Make them realize that dreams have no expiration dates. They can get it at 9 or 90. God, I ask you, all they needed was a 2. I'll be the 2. I'll stand with them in the gap, if you want to call it as such. Every dream, spiritual, physical, financial. Because see, Lord, the world needs to see something. They need to see it because they can't think spiritual, because they're spiritually. Dead. So we have to show them physical things. They'll get angry at first, but then they'll begin to figure out, wait a minute, this person's got something that's working here. And if that's got to do that to get their attention, fine, then we can lead them to where you want them to go. So I thank you for every dream. All debt free. But God, I ask you that the amount of money that we're in debt let they have it in liquid finance in a bank somewhere. Whether it's, you know, if the house costs a million dollars, they'd have a million cash somewhere or whatever, I don't know. I don't know how much it costs to live in California. I know it's pretty expensive, but whatever, Lord, that don't make no difference to you. I set myself in agreement that every church that's represented by a pastor is going to grow. You know, Brother Copeland said 24 more and more and more and more and more. Lord, you gave me, Give me a job. Just say I'm willing to go to work if you're willing to give me a job. Father, I ask you that. And I lift your hands up as an act of faith and just receive that spiritual, physical and finance. Start thinking your dreams. Start thinking them. Think right now. Think what you want, not what you need. He gonna supply your need. That's not the issue. Think what you want. Holy Ghost is agreeing with you. People being healed all over this place. You want to be healed? It's happening now. There's a warmness in your body. What that is, that's the hand of God touching your body. There will be no more lack anymore. You'll not open up your wallet. It won't be an abundance of lack. You'll have to get a new wallet because it's filling up. The Holy Ghost is sealing this because you're believing. See, he said, tell many in here, you can live as long as you want. You can live as long as you want. Death and lives in the power of your tongue. Speak life. Just live as long as you want. And if you finish, then go on home. If not, then stay. Transformation is coming. Transitioning is coming not because you're getting older, but it's because you're going to a higher place. You're going to a higher place. If my people will humble themselves, sayeth the Lord, and pray, I will do what you say. Say something. Give me a job and I'll do it. And I'll do it quickly if you let me. Now give the Lord, a standing ovation. I hear babies crying. Somebody gonna have some babies. Look at one lady, not me. Baby, baby. Oh, babies are coming. I pray for 14 ladies that couldn't have babies, that they all had them. One lady had a total hysterectomy. We've proven it with the doctor. Well, if he can give you the first uterus, why can't he give you the second one? I don't know how he did it. The lady came back with a bouncing baby boy in her hand and the doctor that took out her organs with the papers and said, I need to meet Jesus. I can't explain this. I said, neither can I. I said, but look at the fruit. Look at the little boy. That little boy looking at me like that happened in Crowley, Louisiana. Word of Faith Church. There was a pastor there named Gerald Doggett. I'll never forget that. That boy today would probably be. Oh, he has to be 40 years old again. Total hysterectomy. Total. I saw the papers and the doctor that performed it, don't tell me he can't. Is there anything too hard for the Lord? But she gave him a job. She said, I want to be. I didn't know she had a total. Like I said, I don't know if a woman got a hysterectomy or not. I didn't tell me that her husband liked to pass out. He went, what are you doing? I didn't know what he was doing. I just thought maybe he didn't want to have a baby. I didn't know that his wife, she had had that, what they call it, endometriosis. And he destroyed her body and they had to take everything out. I mean, it was just. But she wanted a baby. That didn't stop her. Want, you got it. That's one of the biggest miracles. Kathy and that other lady with that seven pound blood tumor, remember that? Lord said to tell you this. I was doing a crusade and I'd rented this convention center there and this lady had on maternity clothes. I, I thought she was pregnant. Look like not, not a real big woman. She's Methodist. I walked and I said, God won't touch you. Boom. She fell out and her stomach went flat. I thought, where the baby go? I mean, I literally, I mean, I look, I look into the chair. Jesus. The daughter screaming and hollering. Remember that scream like Jesus. Finally, when all kind of the dust. I mean, the place was jam packed full. The head of the Catholic Church was there. The archdiocese saw it happen. I said, what, man? She said, sir, I'M not. I wasn't pregnant. I had a seven pound inoperable blood tumor. It was killing me. If. If they operate, I would have died immediately. And she said, look, the place went crazy again. Was it Two years later, I went back to a church in that area. Me and Kathy were hungry. We were about ready to go home. And there was a. What they call it, a Pizza Inn, something like that. I said, let's stop at a Pizza Inn, get us something to eat. We stopped like that. And this lady comes. She goes, hi. I said, hello. So we took off. She said, do you remember me? I said, no. She said, I'm that lady that's with that had that seven pound inoperable tumor. And I'm still healed. Miracles. I can tell you something, son. I saw AA Allen lay his hand on a guy and I was 14 years old, Bones busting and cracking. I heard a pow, pow. Guy was. I'm not talking barely. I'm talking gnarled up, crippled. And I heard him say, let him run like the prophet Elijah. I told my brother, let's get out of here, Jack. My mama wanted to see all that nothing. Me, I mean, I ran out there. I scared. I see nothing like that in my life. I saw that with my own eyes. You can't tell me miracles and healing don't work. You come too late, Love. Casting out demons. That's the most fun them demons go. I said, had a guy come in one of my meetings. He. He. He'd go to jail for this. He sacrificed the dog, killed that dog. Blood everywhere. Jumped on me. We rolling, rolling on the floor. Blood, dog blood blowing. I will. Will you just say you do nothing? I just enjoy my get out. He got born again free. And I said, now get a water hose and wash that blood off that boy. People saw that. 3,200 of them at the Tippett Civic center. They saw it. I don't forget that priest. We're not lady go. He goes. Tell you something about the Catholic Church. They believe in healing. They believe in casting out devils. They are so close to Pentecost, you'd be surprised. Other than they pray to saints. You know we don't do that. You know, what's the difference between the Catholic and the Protestant? One's got a crucifix, the other one got an empty cross. Can't have an empty cross without a crucifix. Can't have the crucifix without an empty cross. Catholic church got seven sacraments. Protestant church got two, Baptism and Communion. One of the sacraments for the Catholic Church is Confirmation. Anybody know what I'm talking about? If you've been Catholic, you know what I'm talking about. But they all believe in Jesus. Why can't I get along with that? Why can't I just let my light so shine? I pray to the Catholic Church, the Nunciata, Catholic Church. God knocked out people. There was at least 30 people on the floor. They called three ambulances. These are people dying. The Jesuits were there. Remember that guy, the Jesuits? People falling all over the floor. I said, ain't nobody hurt. This is the Holy Ghost touching people, ministering to people. And the priest, the father of that church. I want you to pray for me. And I went, put my hand and he grabbed me by the horns. I said. He said, the Jesuit's here. I don't want to fall down. Three ambulances. People don't know. They don't know. You want stories? I've been preaching 48 years. I seen this stuff. You come too late to tell me this don't work. You come too late to tell me that I'm going to have financial problems. Your mama, what? This El Shaddai? Not this El Cheapo, this, God that, that. I can't even imagine the wealth. But you got to be prepared to receive it when it comes. Takes time sometimes, but prepare yourself. Well. Today we got over 422,000 partners to our ministry going all over the World from January 20th. Why am I saying this? The Lord told me to say it. From January 2020 to the end of December 19, 2023, we've had over 64,035,318 people contact us on social media and views and all the different things. We're working 247 just to handle that. He's gotta come. In my lifetime, You'd have told me that 30 years ago. I said, you done lost your ever loving mind. Jan Krause told me people only knew the size of your message. Jesse, that was years ago. I said, it has nothing to do with size. I said, jan, all I want to do is the will of God. That's it. I ain't looking to be famous. I don't want any of that kind of junk. I just want to complete my destiny. Reach my destination. So y' all teach people, teach them that uncompromise minds. Word of God gets so strong in them that when the test comes, it's nothing. It's nothing. In fact, you don't even pay attention to it. Because your eye, you focus on your priority. You eliminate all your confusion. One more word, Nancy. What do you want? That's what the Lord is telling me. He said, tell her this. No longer do you ask me for a need. Tell me what you want, And I'll do it. Now, how he does it, gonna blow your socks off. God has used people in my midst. I just never thought he would use. I'm trying to shut up here. This new plane, you got to be prepared for this thing. This is a big aircraft, so you need different kind of tugs to move that in because it weighs 77,000 pounds. So. And then you got to type rate your. Your pilots. Then you have to send your mechanics to school. So before the plane ever showed up, I got to spend $500,000 to receive it. I said, okay. I said, anything? Well, we also need a hydraulic mule. Can we just get a regular mule? Think I could buy a real mule a lot cheaper than this hydraulic mule. That's another 200 grand. 100 something. $150,000. 125,000. So by the time I got finished $800,000, I ain't even got the plane. This is Thursday, just about, I don't know, five weeks ago, something like that. I said, that's right. So I'm talking to my aviation staff. I said, we got to be prepared to receive this. I get up. I was there by the airport. I have my own offices and hangar at the airport, as well as the officers at the ministry. Anyway, While we're there, FedEx calls us and they say, Mr. Duplantis, you got a package here. Supposed to deliver to you on Monday, but we got it early. And they, you know, we ship our stuff all the time. They said, if you'll send Fritz, who works for me, Fritz, my oldest employee. He's going to be with me 40 years in April. He said, send Fritz, and we'll just give it to him and he can bring it to you. I hadn't asked God for that money. I just found out I had to spend that money. I didn't have time to ask God for that money, that 800 something thousand dollars. I said, oh, okay. So I called Fritz. Fritz said, I'll go pick it up, boss. So I said, well, look, so I dismiss my meeting and I go home. This is maybe 10 minutes later, 15 minutes, here comes Fritz. Here's the package. I don't know what's in it. Open up the package, and there's a check in there for a million dollars. And the Lord said, isaiah, before you ask, I'll answer. Before I got the invoice. I got the money. He's ahead of us. He's ahead of us. I called the boys. I said, hey, guess what? You know all that stuff you just ordered? It's all paid for. We got a million dollars. I'm looking at a million dollar check. Bam. I didn't have time to pray. I didn't have time to ask. Nancy, tell him what you want. People gonna think you're a little nuts. It's all right. They think you're nuts anyway because you believe in healing. And you know, you gotta be better than me because you're a woman. Ain't that stupid? She's a woman. What, you didn't notice that? Like as if. Why does a woman have to be much stronger and much better than a man? Because this Josh Meyers broke that man's word. God calls you. That's what you do. So I paid all that. Well, the other day they told me, they said, now, Reverend, I said, I want to change all the interior. Don't have to. It's beautiful. But I want to put me and Kathy in there. How much is that going to be? I'm going to just tell you. $890,000. Found that out. January 1st, when nobody's at the office. It's New Year's Day. January 2nd, I got a million dollar check again. Before I can get it over there. That's paid for. The Lord said, I told you, I'll give you the plane, I'll give you the money, I'll give you the upgrades. I said, you're not getting. I don't have time to ask. He said, I'm in a hurry, Jesse. Just receive it. Boom. Sent that over there. Took care of that next. Then a lady called me. I heard you believe him for 20 million. You know, I never wrote a 20 million dollar check, but I can. I'm going to be praying about that. And I thought, okay. Oh, I know. I mean, they got this money, son. But I don't look at her just so I can get money from her. I've never met her. I don't even know what she looks like. I've never had a partner meeting in my life. I didn't have to. I didn't have to add, God sent them to me. I want to do some partner meetings. I told the cathedral. I said, I want to miss some meet and greets. I want to meet some people. I want to meet these people. Who are you? Who I am? Remember the word last night? The unconscious obedience of the unbeliever. If Believers won't do it. An unbeliever will. And God will bless the unbeliever. Thank you, Nancy. That's the word of the Lord. I'm finished. I could flow in. The holy Lord said, no, no. They prayed. They gave me a mission. Dreams have no expiration dates. Tell him what you want. And I don't care how much it is, because he didn't ask you to pay for it. He asked you to believe for it. And then get to this point you live in. What's this? Marietta, Temecula. I don't know which one it is. You know, the f. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation will only cover your finances in one bank. $750,000. You know, you're. You're 250. Your husband. 250. And then you do a joint account, and that's 750. After that, the bank goes broke. You lose your money. That's what they say. Let me help you get to a point that you. That you can still live in Marietta and Temecula, wherever it's at, but you have to go to other cities for other banks because you don't want to. You don't want to invest your money on Wall Street, Fine. I just want cash. Cash. I want. I want CDs. I don't know, whatever you want. T. Bills and, you know, whatever that you got to go to different cities to fill the banks up. Had a friend of mine, he went home, be with the Lord. He had money in 86 banks, preacher. 86. He said, I had to leave the town because I was just filling them up. He just wanted cash. Went home, be with the Lord. His son said, you know how hard it was to get 86 banks? They stood so. Man, I didn't know dad had all this. He's given millions to missions, his son, millions. So is his father. I got involved with him in Malawi, Africa. He thought, I believe. He said, yes, he's prospering. He's got Perrier at his book and tape table. What is that? He said, you want to go with me to Malawi? I said, yeah. He said, I. I said, I'm gonna get involved. I said, I can't go physically, but I said, I'll get involved in missions, outreach. We started in Malawi. It was 90% Muslim. We didn't go to the people. We went to the president. We started high. Today. It's 80% Christian. You get the presidency, you get the cabinet saved. You get the Congress saved. You're going to get the country saved. That's how he thought. I like that kind of thinking. My God. Stretch forth your hand to Sister Nancy. Father, I thank you today, Kathy. Put your hand on Nancy. I thank you today, Lord, that all dreams come to pass for this. This lady. You have called and sanctioned her and honored her every dream. No struggle in any way, shape or form. Speed up the time, Lord. Let her do what she needs to do. Destiny and destination. Grant her extreme favor. That means more partners, more friends, just people just loving to hear us speak. Bless her and the people that hook up with her. Bless them that it was all said and done. We'll all look up and see you coming in the cloud. Because we finished our destiny and reached our destination nation. Let it be this day, Lord. Put angels on assignment, God, right now. California time is 4 minutes to 12. Put them angels on assignment. For great and extreme favor. Vanessa's ministry, her church and all the other traveling parts of it. Whatever she does and personally too, her home and whatever she wants, I. I don't. I don't know. Just whatever she wants and I thank you for it. And God, I'm going to believe that Nancy going to give me and Kathy a call and say, guess what? We got it. Here we go. I believe that, Lord, and I thank you for it. In Jesus name, give the Lord a standing ovation. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings. Share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of DeFresne Ministries.