Podcast Summary: "Attending To His Word"

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Host: Nancy Dufresne (with contributions from other speakers)
Event: JTH Crusades 2024, Sunday PM, Collinsville, OK
Date: October 7, 2024

Episode Overview

This episode, led primarily by Pastor Nancy Dufresne, dives into the biblical principles of “sowing and reaping,” the importance of both giving and receiving, developing a “supply minded” mentality over a “need minded” one, and the spiritual laws and mindset required to receive God’s blessings. Memorable stories, biblical illustrations, and testimonies are woven throughout to inspire faith, skill in receiving from God, and attentiveness to God’s word, especially in the realms of healing and financial provision.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Seedtime and Harvest: The Law of Sowing and Reaping

• Foundational Text: Genesis 8:22 – "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest... shall not cease."

• Nancy emphasizes that it’s not just seedtime, but “seedtime AND harvest." We must “complete the cycle of God’s law” by being practiced at both giving and receiving:

  • “We have no right disconnecting what God connected. God joined harvest with seed time.” – Nancy (01:32)
  • To resist the receiving side is to break God’s law and operate in disobedience.

• Teeter-Totter Analogy: God never lets you crash or leaves you imbalanced in the law of sowing and reaping.

  • “God does not leave you to crash. He balances out your seed time with your harvest so that there’s no financial imbalance.” – Nancy (04:41)

• “To be good at sowing but not at receiving is still a mentality of poverty.” (05:58)

2. Receiving: Breaking the Mentality of Poverty

• Many Christians are generous givers but feel awkward about receiving, seeing it as pride.

  • “No matter how good we are at giving, if we’re not just as good at harvesting, at receiving, it’s a poverty mentality.” (06:29)

• Illustrated with a story from her life and others in ministry who struggled to receive gifts or blessings, believing it was too much or not humble.

• Illustrative Quote:

  • “If somebody else can have it, I can have it, too... Let’s be honest, I like stuff!” – Nancy (06:52)

3. Testimony on Receiving: The Account of Pastor Ellis

• [08:05] David shares a testimony about his father, Pastor Ellis, who repeatedly refused significant blessings (a car, property, TV studio) thinking it was too much or would make others think poorly.
  • “He could not get a hold that there was so much more for him... and it would be a lack of humility to take something of that magnitude.” – David (11:51)
• Key lesson: Sometimes, refusing to receive is itself an act of unbelief and keeps you from God's increase.

4. Spiritual Harvest Never Rots

• Unlike a natural harvest, a spiritual harvest does not spoil.
  • “Their harvest has not rotted... The reward, the harvest, is still available. To what? To faith.” – Nancy (13:20)
• We can even reap where previous generations did not.

5. Skill in Reaping & The Leading of the Spirit

• Sowing requires faith; reaping requires faith, too.
  • Referenced Galatians 6:9 and Mark 4:28—reaping is a process and sometimes you must wait for “due season.”
  • “Don’t reap it when it’s just a blade. Wait for the full ear in the corn.” (19:13)
• Patience and following the Spirit are necessary so you don't prematurely settle for less (“the blade”) when God wants to give you “the full corn in the ear.”

6. Recognizing Your Harvest

• Sometimes, what you think is your harvest is actually a seed for someone else, and vice versa.
  • “Some things are a seed and some things are a harvest. And I called it harvest. I called it— I called it harvest.” – Nancy, on receiving and then giving away a ring (24:13)
• Be tuned to the Spirit to know when to give and when to receive.

7. Mindset and Attention: Attending to the Word

• Main Shift: Move from “need-minded” to “supply-minded.”

  • “My God shall supply all your need... In the mind of most believers, it's need first. My need, my need, my need. This verse is to turn us supply minded, not need minded.” (54:24)

• What we attend to, we empower in our lives; faith only works when our attention is on God’s Word, not our needs or feelings.

• Key Quote:

  • “Everything of our victory is tied to our attention. Because our faith goes where our attention is.” (55:13)

• Supporting Example: Dad Hagin’s healing came not when he focused on his sickness, but when he redirected his attention to God’s Word and let go of worry. (Around 40:00–48:00)

8. Practical Steps for Faith and Healing

• Faith is not about never feeling the storm but about standing after it.
  • “Feeling the beating is simply the fourth stage of the storm...” (Full teaching on Matthew 7:24–27 at 59:54)
  • “Ignore what you feel. Skill as a faith, has a great big ignore button. And you better find it.” (61:02)

9. Ministering in Healing and Activation

• Nancy shares about cooperating with angels in the healing ministry, teachings from Hebrews 1:14, and testimonies of supernatural healings.
  • “They will bring body parts... We’ve seen bodies adjusted... that should not alarm us. It should alarm us why we don’t have more of it.” (72:44)
• Instruction: When God calls for a response, respond quickly; faith responds.
• Healing line for physical heart conditions and personalized ministry for various needs (from 77:00+).

10. Receiving and Rejoicing

• Manifestation of healing and answers is tied to receiving first in your spirit, then rejoicing.
  • “Since I have it now, I rejoice… It only takes a moment to receive.” (95:49)
  • “What are you going to do from the time of receiving in that moment till the time it manifests? Rejoicing.” (96:15)
• Song Ministry: Original songs reinforce the episode's core message ("My attention is focused on you—You have made everything brand new.")

11. Power of Intercession and Rejoicing for Salvation

• Closing section: Testimonies about praying and dispatching angels for lost loved ones, stressing that "rejoicing is the highest type of faith."
  • Everyone is encouraged to call out names of lost loved ones, sending angels and then rejoicing for their salvation. (From 121:00)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Receiving as a Law:

  • “The law is sowing and reaping. If we haven’t reaped, we’re breaking the law.” – Nancy (20:25)

• On the Past and Attention:

  • “You don’t get rid of the wrong thing by talking it. You get rid of the wrong thing by pouring in the right thing.” (49:27)

• On Feelings:

  • “This generation lives by feelings… Faith people don’t coddle their feelings.” (63:41)

• On Rejoicing:

  • “Rejoicing is the highest type of faith.” (121:47)

• Testimony of Tony:

  • “She said, ‘those are for my Tony. I sent two [angels].’ And Tony had done everything you can imagine… but now he’s pastoring and helping pastor a church.” (119:25)

Notable Timestamps

• [01:32]: Genesis 8:22—The Law of Sowing and Reaping
• [06:48]: Nancy: “Let’s be honest about it. I like stuff.”
• [08:05]: Testimony: Receiving (David shares about father, Pastor Ellis)
• [13:20]: Spiritual harvest doesn’t rot
• [19:13]: The “blade, ear, full corn in the ear” analogy; waiting for due season
• [24:13]: When your harvest is actually a seed for someone else
• [54:24]: Turning from “need-minded” to “supply-minded”
• [59:54]: The storm analogy—Faith and feeling the storm
• [72:44]: Cooperation with angels in healing ministry
• [77:00+]: Healing line and prayer
• [95:49]: “Since I have it now, I rejoice…”
• [121:00]: Intercession for salvation; dispatching angels; rejoicing for loved ones

Songs and Declared Affirmations

Throughout the episode, the congregation and worship team reinforce the message with original songs and affirmations such as:

• “I'm already healed, I am made whole, mention His name, sickness must go…” (79:14)
• “My attention is focused on You…” (106:52)

Actionable Faith Steps From the Episode

• Practice receiving, not just giving.
• Redirect attention from needs and feelings to the supply and promises of God.
• Use rejoicing as an act of faith while awaiting manifestation.
• Respond quickly to the Spirit; be skillful in spiritual things.
• Don’t let worry, the past, or fear dictate your life or limit your harvest.

Closing Charge

“Release your faith tonight. Once you give your seed, release your faith and be bold to receive. Of course I expect to receive... That’s the way I please God when I fulfill His laws.” – Nancy (53:10)