Podcast Summary: Becoming Covenant Minded – Using The Covenant With Skill

Dufresne Ministries Podcast | Holy Ghost Meetings 2026 | Tuesday AM
Host: Nancy Dufresne; Guest Speaker: Dr. Bill Winston
Date: January 20, 2026

Main Theme:

This episode dives deep into what it means to live "covenant-minded" as believers in Christ—living from the finished work of Jesus with boldness, walking in dominion, and actively utilizing the promises and provisions of our covenant with God. Host Nancy Dufresne and Dr. Bill Winston exhort listeners to move from waiting for victory to living daily from a place of completed victory, practically applying their covenant rights and faith for real-world impact, divine provision, supernatural wisdom, and kingdom exploits.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Mindset of Already Having Victory in Christ

• Nancy Dufresne’s Opening Exhortation
  • Declares believers are not waiting for breakthrough: “I'm not waiting for a breakthrough. I'm not believing for a breakthrough. I'm through. … Victory is already ours.” [00:55]
  • Stresses identity and possession in Christ: “In Christ, I have it. That's what faith talks about, what is ours in Christ.” [03:35]
  • Teaches that manifestation doesn’t make something real—faith speaks it as real now: “It's not the manifestation that tells me I'm through.” [01:30]
  • Urges active stance: “Because I already have the lands I need, because I already have the buildings I need in Christ, I just go out and scoop it up.” [04:15]

2. Seeds, Trees, Deeds: The Growth of Dominion

• Bill Winston’s Main Message
  • Kingdom living is about moving from seed (God’s Word and faith) to trees (belief systems/identity) to deeds (actions/dominion).
  • “Seeds, trees, and deeds. … Trees represent your belief system. They run deep because we've had those beliefs a long time. … Every plant or every tree in you that the Father didn't plant, I'm going to root it up.” [14:10]
  • Deeds are meant to demonstrate dominion: “Not just any kind of deeds. These are deeds of dominion.” [18:46]
  • Roots out old mindsets through meditation and revelation.

3. Kingdom Authority and Our Identity

• Scripture readings: Psalms 8 ("What is man... crowned him with glory and honor"), emphasis on mankind’s God-given dominion. [17:44–21:22]
• “Jesus is making it so you can function just like him. Did he still a storm? … Then you can still [the storm].” [20:30]
• God’s supply is unlimited: “God has a supply for you that won't run out. It is very, very powerful.” [13:10]

4. Imitating God & Walking in Righteousness

• Ephesians 5:1 – “Therefore be imitators of God, Copy Him and follow His example…” [23:23]
• Righteousness gives rise to bold, effective faith: “If you're righteous and have a revelation of what righteousness means, your faith will flow like a flood.” [26:12]
• Memorable quote: “He'll make you so you don't know yourself. … God's not done with you. You got work to do, and he's got plans for you.” [24:40]

5. Practical Application of Faith

• Principle: Faith is released and then works; you can “put faith to work and go do something else.” [27:26]
• God orchestrates circumstances in response to His Word (e.g., the governmental census facilitating Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem). [28:28]
• Use Scripture as seed for whatever you’re believing for; meditate to move from information to manifestation.

6. Covenant-Mindedness in Real Life

• The “uncircumcised Philistines” and Abraham stories establish covenant thinking (“He’s covenant minded—be covenant minded” [39:34]).
• “It’s no restraint for God to work by many or by few. Don’t ever think you got too few people.” [41:14]
• “I want it to be stronger, much mightier than myself. Now, God's going to get the glory.” [43:24]
• Using covenant words moved the church from slow-provision to abundance: “Boom. Had $3.5 million, just like that.” [52:25]
• Angels as ministering spirits: “We are heirs of salvation. They're ministering spirits sent forth to minister for us.” [54:42]
• “How many angels do we have? … Innumerable.” [57:06]

7. The Blood Covenant Explained

• Covenant is an irrevocable, powerful contract: “It means to cut, it means where blood flows… The most firm agreement of anything.” [59:00]
• Modern believers need to recapture the seriousness and benefits of their blood covenant in Christ.
• “If you're a small village and you get into a fight with a tribe that's much bigger… I can call on you and you will have to answer.” [61:20]

8. Divine Wisdom and Supernatural Solutions

• God will light your darkness/countenance (Psalm 18:28, Proverbs 20:27) [68:33, 69:26]
• Winston shares real-world testimonies—e.g., acquiring a shopping mall and a bank—by moving from vision to meditation, to obtaining God’s wisdom and manifest provision. [94:03–97:38]
• “You can take a stupid man and get a smart answer. All he’s got to do is consult the great I Am.” [69:32]
• “Our faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.” (1 Cor. 2:5) [71:05]

9. Questions & Practical Leadership Tips

• On acquiring a bank: “God wants you to keep moving forward. Opportunities come when you're moving forward. … I learned that there is a system of the world that has got the church fairly tied up. … God at some point wants the church to separate.” [84:37]
• When you receive a big vision: Write it down, find the scripture-seed, meditate, and keep the process in faith. [90:20]
• Dealing with opposition: Stay on God’s word, potentially let go of negative influencers—“I'll write them a letter and say this is the last time I'm coming over your house… Abraham had to let Lot go.” [91:57]
• Manifestation process example: Walking around the shopping mall, meditating Joshua 1:3, faith for impossible things, God arranging supernatural provision. [95:17–97:38]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Nancy Dufresne [01:15]:
  “I am in victory because I'm in Christ. … My wholeness is already mine. I'm not trying to break through. … He is my breakthrough. I am already through.”
• Bill Winston [18:46]:
  “Seeds, trees, and deeds of dominion. … If you don't have dominion over him, the enemy's going to have dominion over you. So you got to stop him.”
• Bill Winston [24:40]:
  “God is a miracle worker. He'll make you so you don't know yourself. … God wants you to be adventurous… God's not done with you.”
• Bill Winston [41:07]:
  (On walking in faith) “I got news for you. If you go through it, I'll open it.”
• Bill Winston [52:25]:
  “It wasn't the loudness that stopped him … when I said that to [my] congregation … Boom. Immediately all the ... money came in from everywhere.”
• Bill Winston [57:06]:
  “How many angels do we have? … Innumerable.”
• Bill Winston [61:20]:
  (On covenant) “If you're a small village and you get into a fight ... I can call on you and you will have to answer … that’s the covenant.”
• Bill Winston [69:32]:
  “So you can take a stupid man and get a smart answer. All he's got to do is consult the great I am.”
• Bill Winston [91:57]:
  “If they disagree? ... I'll write them a letter and say this is the last time I'm coming over your house. I'm telling you, you gotta let them go.”
• Bill Winston [95:17]:
  “[On faith projects] God said buy the whole mall … You want to get something that will stretch your faith. … God didn’t ask you to pay for it. He said believe for it.”

Important Timestamps

• 00:00–10:30 – Nancy Dufresne’s introduction: “Victory is already ours” faith confession and setting up for Dr. Winston’s teaching.
• 11:11 – Bill Winston’s opening prayer and “seeds, trees, and deeds” (14:10).
• 17:44–21:22 – Reading and teaching from Psalm 8 (dominion scriptures).
• 23:23 – Ephesians 5:1: Imitating God—identity & righteousness.
• 27:07–29:40 – Practical faith actions; the mechanics of putting faith to work.
• 39:34–43:24 – Covenant-mindedness stories: Jonathan, Abraham, Gideon, application to real-life challenges.
• 51:36–54:42 – Angels and supernatural assistance.
• 59:00–63:40 – The blood covenant; what it means for believers.
• 68:33–72:34 – Receiving divine wisdom for solutions; real-life testimonies.
• 84:37–97:38 – Audience Q&A: acquiring a bank, dealing with vision, staying focused amid naysayers, process for manifestation, example of acquiring a mall.

Closing Words

This message is a bold call up for every believer to operate “from the other side,” living and acting out of their completed position in Christ, walking in covenant-minded faith for impact in every sphere of life. Through rich scripture, practical wisdom, and inspiring testimonies, Dr. Winston emphasizes:

• “God didn’t ask you to pay for it. He said believe for it.” [95:17]
• “We're not taking sides. We're taking over.” [79:19]

Be bold, be covenant-minded, and take ground!