Podcast Summary: Carriers Of The Message
Guest Speaker: Pastor Craig Field
Event: Campmeeting 2019 at World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA
Date: June 12, 2019
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Main Theme & Purpose
Pastor Craig Field brings an uplifting and challenging exhortation centered on the biblical narrative of the widow and Elisha (2 Kings 4:1–7), encouraging believers—especially ministers—to realize their role as "carriers of the message." He emphasizes the importance of faith, corresponding action, and God’s faithfulness to provide for those entrusted with advancing His message. The episode calls listeners to step beyond spiritual complacency, actively engage their faith, and partner with the miraculous for personal needs and the furtherance of the gospel.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Personal Anecdote & Divine Assignment
[00:16 – 03:00]
- Craig opens with a humorous story of encountering a disruptive woman on a plane, leading to a moment when the Holy Spirit prompts him to receive a message for the conference.
- “As I did that, I heard the Holy Ghost speak to me... If Pastor Nancy asks you to minister, I want you to share this.” (Craig, 02:58)
2. Scripture Foundation: 2 Kings 4:1–7
[03:00 – 12:00]
- Explores the story of the widow, a minister’s wife whose future is threatened by lack.
- Stresses that righteous living is essential, but even ministers face needs.
- Key Insight: Her sons represent the future—the message’s next generation—and their bondage symbolizes the risk of losing God’s message to lack or neglect.
- “My future is at risk because of some money trouble. ... The vision exceeds the money that we have right now.” (Craig, 09:30)
3. The Importance of the Message Over the Messenger
[12:00 – 16:00]
- The “message” is bigger than personalities or individual ministers.
- The legacy of “Dad Hagin” and the faith movement is not about the man, but the message that foreruns Christ’s return.
- “We are carriers. ... The message can't be lost. It's important.” (Craig, 15:05)
- Compares John the Baptist (a solitary forerunner) and Dad Hagin (forerunner of a movement).
4. The Minister’s Predicament: Not Enough Supply
[16:00 – 20:00]
- Highlights practical ministerial struggles: having more vision than resources.
- “Are you telling me the message is in jeopardy... because of money? It’s completely crazy, but that is the reality.” (Craig, 18:48)
5. The Divine Strategy: What Do You Have?
[20:00 – 32:00]
- Emphasizes God’s method is never to start with what you don’t have, but to multiply what is in your hand.
- “Stop saying what I have isn’t enough. ... With the miraculous multiplying power of God, what I have is enough.” (Craig, 22:40)
- Shares miraculous provision stories (feeding 5,000 with a pot of food in Mexico, personal experiences).
6. Faith Requires Corresponding Action
[32:00 – 38:00]
- Cites James 2:17 and key faith principles learned from Norval Hayes and others.
- “Faith comes by hearing. But faith does not operate by hearing. Faith operates by speaking, doing, speaking and acting. Spirit led action.” (Craig, 34:52)
- Tells the story of a Kenyan pastor: built a fake sound system and parking lot by faith—miracles followed.
7. Practical Application: Borrow Vessels, Don’t Just Wait
[38:00 – 44:00]
- God’s answer comes often after a faith step—borrowing the hangar for an airplane before having either a plane or a pilot’s license.
- “You’ve gone out and you borrowed something. Now watch me fill it.” (Craig, 38:04)
8. The Principle of Pouring Out: Don’t Hoard, Release
[44:00 – 50:00]
- Believers must act by pouring out what they have (resources, gifts).
- “If you never try to pour the oil, you’ll never know if it’s going to work or not. Just start.” (Craig, 57:10)
9. First Fruits: Sowing into Spiritual Covering
[50:00 – 57:00]
- Principles from 1 Kings 17 and personal stories about tithing/churches’ financial breakthroughs.
- “Make your man of God the thing first. When you're going to pour out your oil, pour it into his vessel first.” (Craig, 52:42)
- Shares frank opinions and confrontations with other pastors about tithing and church finances.
- “Our message is too important. ... We are carriers of a holy message. ... For that reason alone ... you are invested in our success.” (Craig, 58:55)
10. Ministerial Success and the Work of Miracles
[57:00 – 62:00]
- Restates that God's miracle-working power is activated when we take faith steps.
- “Our job is to do the work. God's job is to perform the miracle.” (Craig, 56:39)
Memorable Quotes & Moments
- On Mindset:
“Hang out with people that know more so that you learn something.” (Craig, 36:40) - On Faith in Action:
“God don’t believe anything you say. He only believes what you do.” (Norval Hayes via Craig, 33:55) - On Corresponding Action:
“If you really believe, put some corresponding action. Don’t just talk about it.” (Craig, 35:35) - On Ministry Purpose:
“We are not just preachers, preacher. We are carriers of the message. This is why we can’t fail.” (Craig, 44:16) - On the Message’s Legacy:
“For me ... when I go home to be with the Lord, [the mantle] is on those who take the message. It’s not just going to fall on an individual. It’s going to fall on who takes the message.” (Pastor Nancy, 60:25)
Key Timestamps
- [00:16] – Craig’s airplane anecdote and Holy Spirit prompting
- [03:00] – Key scripture introduction: 2 Kings 4:1–7
- [12:00] – Message vs. Messenger: the Dad Hagin legacy
- [22:40] – The miraculous power of multiplying what you have
- [34:52] – “Faith comes by hearing...faith operates by speaking, doing.”
- [36:40] – Surrounding yourself with faith-filled mentors
- [38:04] – Borrowing a hangar by faith: “Now watch me fill it.”
- [44:16] – The purpose of ministry: carrying the message
- [52:42] – The principle of honoring spiritual covering with first fruits
- [56:39] – “Our job is to do the work. God’s job is to perform the miracle.”
- [60:25] – Pastor Nancy summarizes the legacy of the message
Flow & Tone
- Tone: Uplifting, bold, sometimes humorous, and often direct—especially on faith, finances, and ministry accountability.
- Language: Down-to-earth, scripturally grounded, often anecdotal, peppered with practical wisdom and challenging application.
Actionable Highlights
- Assess what you currently have—your “jar of oil”—and believe God to multiply it.
- Take a step of faith (corresponding action) toward your vision, however small it may seem.
- Honor spiritual fathers/mothers with first fruits, applying principles of tithing and giving.
- Understand that you are a carrier of the message; God has invested in your success not for your sake alone but for the sake of fulfilling His purpose.
- Miracles manifest for those who act—not just those who know.
Closing Encouragement
- “Just start. Remember, Revelation gifts have been given to us, but you still gotta use faith. ... Show God we believe Him so that the miracle power of God can meet it and the power gifts can kick into action.” (Craig, 58:55)
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