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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Praise the Lord. As we were standing there, I was Remembering John, chapter 1, verse 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God. And the next phrase, and the Word was God. I want you to know symptoms try to portray themselves as God. Circumstances try to portray themselves. They try to boast themselves loud in your life, to portray themselves as God, reigning and ruling your life. But in the beginning, God, already determined from the beginning. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God and still God. So we go by the Word and everything else. Circumstances, feelings, situations have to fall because they're not God. And you have to remind opposition, you are not God. In my finances, in my body, in my marriage, you are not God. There is a God, and he is sovereign, meaning there's no one higher. That's what sovereign means. He answers to no one, because there is no one higher to answer to. Amen. So sometimes we just need to readjust the attention we're giving opposition, because giving it the wrong attention is giving it the wrong place. You can be seated, if you would. Thank you, Ms. Reba. That was Ms. Destiny. That was rich, rich, rich. And we'll just see how this goes and flows, because I just have remnants. This whole week has just been remnants of me carrying multiple sermons and just lay it out and see which one's the Holy Ghost, what statements he draws and pulls. But I mean, look, it's just everywhere. That's okay. That's okay. But I want to read. And don't get too far from what we were just saying. And just. Tony, you stay there. I like that. Thank you, brother. Romans 14, verse 17. We started there last night, and I'm not really going to try to preach a sermon, but I'm just going to draw out, speak out what's drawn out by the Holy Ghost. Romans 4:17. This is the King James translation. God speaking as it is written, I have made thee. It's easy to become what you're made to be. You don't have to try to make yourself that. You just easily step into it. I have made thee a father of many nations. Of course, he's speaking to Abraham before him, whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead and calleth those things which be not as though they were. So God did that. God operates that way. He taught Abram to operate that way. And that's his way of operating verse 18. Who against hope, believed in hope that he might become the father of many nations according to that which was spoken. Abraham wasn't believing blindly. He was believing according to what was spoken. God did not say this to Lot. He didn't say, I've made you the father of many nations. Lot could not believe that because it was not according to as it was spoken to Lot. So we're not just believing something random. We're believing according to what is spoken. And that is the firm foundation of the Word. So he believed according to that which was spoken. So shall thy seed be. And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body, now dead when he was about 100 years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb. He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strong in faith, giving glory to God and being fully persuaded that what God had promised God was able also to perform. Aren't you grateful that everything God has already made ours? He's the performer of it. Amen. But I wanted us to go back to this phrase in verse 19 because it pivots off of what we just quoted in John, chapter one, verse 19. And being not weak in faith, he considered not to have strong faith. You have to know what to consider and what not to consider. To consider the wrong thing is to weaken our faith. If I could say this and something that Dr. Bill Winston has taught me. I'm so grateful for the different ones God's brought in my life because they. They deposit something different, they enhance something different in what we're called to. And one of the things he says, he says, never look at the money. It'll rob you of faith. What's he saying? Learn what not to consider. So it says, abraham considered not. What did he consider? Not his own. Look at that. His own. Something that lived right with him. What was it? His body. It takes practice to consider what God said, when what is your own that you live with is saying something different. But faith can do that because the Word is greater than what you're even living with and tangibly can touch which is your own body. The Word is greater because he believed according to what was spoken, which authorized him to not consider what he could feel and what he could see of his own flesh. And so this is part of the way of faith. And we talked a little bit last night about the way of faith and the way of faith. One of that is we have to learn what not to allow our attention, our words, our conversations, our thoughts to touch into. You can't just let your mind run anywhere and think you're going to arrive at the right destination. You can't just let your words go anywhere they want. Well, that's just the way I feel. But you just can't let what. You can't let your words go to what you feel and arrive at God's best. There has to be restraint on the thought life on the mouth. Amen. Because if not, it'll take your life completely in a different direction than what God made us to be. So he had to practice and he learned to consider not his own body, that which he woke up with, that which he looked at throughout the day, that which he went to bed. The word had to be louder to him than his own body. What God said to him had to be more tangible in his heart than his body was to his touch. What's that mean? You got to fill up with what God said so that it's bigger than your body. It's greater to you than that which is tangible. This is what kept the Hebrews from arriving. That first generation is. They never built what God said to them in them. If they would have built what God said, I have given you the land. It flows with milk and honey. God talked about that land in favorable terms. And they went and spied it out and talked about it in unfavorable terms. Well, it's a land inhabited with giants. Well, that's great. Houses are bigger. Everything's bigger where a giant is. God was thinking of you when he gave you giant land, Hebrews. He wasn't trying to overwhelm you with opposition. He was trying to overwhelm you with increase the biggest in the land. But what is it? They had not built what God said in them. And so they considered the wrong aspects of what God had made available to them and made theirs. And this is so important in the law of faith is what are you considering? What's that mean? What is your attention on? So he considered not his own body, although he lived with it, he saw it. He couldn't get away from it other than through what God said. He could vacate his body by occupying the Word to where his body, what his body said to him meant nothing because the Word was talking to him. And the Word was God. The body's not God. The body is not God. The Word is God. What God says is greater than what your body says. Quit bowing to the body that is not God and then laying down the word that is God. We have to know what has to bow the body must bow to the Word, but not if we're giving it undue attention. And what I mean by undue attention, I'm not talking about neglecting it and abusing it. I'm talking about giving it a place that only God is to occupy. Your body is not greater than what God says. And we have to keep it in its place.
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We get to keep it in its place. So he considered not his own body. I don't care if it. I don't care with what lives with you. I don't care what talks to you. I don't care what people in your household say. God is greater and what God has already said to you is greater. And you keep every other thing bowing to that word. That is God. So it says he considered not his own body. Look at this now dead. It's already dead. Don't take counsel from something dead. It won't talk life to you. You have to talk life to what is dead. Don't let what's dead talk death to you. Dead finances, dead organs, dead limbs, dead relationships. So he was able to consider not his own body because of one reason. He was considering according to what was spoken. You can't just say, that's it. I'm not going to think about my body situation. Well, what are you going to think about? Because when you put that down, you better pick something else up that's greater to consider. Amen. It wasn't him just ignoring. I'm not talking about just ignoring symptoms, ignoring your body. You have to pick up something greater to dominate the body so that body doesn't stay dead. But it comes in line. So it says he considered not his own body now dead when he was about 100 years old. So notice this. He did not think that the natural processes of life disqualified him from what God said. Meaning this. He expected that which had never happened to any man would happen to him. I love something. Dad Hagin made a statement years ago in a word that he gave. I don't know where he was, that he gave it, but he said there are going to be moves of God, moves of the Spirit in the last days that people will reject because they'll say, we haven't seen that before and there is no Bible precedent for it, so we will not accept it. That's to say that the Holy Ghost has spent all he has. Do you think he's got nothing new? It would be in line with the Word. But then I got to thinking. The Word is full of firsts. It's full of Firsts. So God hasn't spent all his firsts, but we still need to recognize it'll bear witness with our spirit and it will be in line with the Word. But just because we've never seen it doesn't mean we can't have it. And Abraham had never seen what God said. And he had to consider what he had what God said to arrive at what he had never seen. So it says he considered not his own body now dead. So it wasn't just the skill of not considering him and neither yet. And he considered not neither yet, the deadness of Sarah's womb. Meaning this. I don't care what's happened to my relative. I don't care what's happened to my neighbor. I don't care who didn't get healed. I'm getting mine. If you look at who around you did not receive, it'll break down your faith. It'll rob you of faith. The way of faith is you don't let your consideration go even to your own experience or the experience of someone else. Amen. He considered not his own body. And you know this. When you go to believe God for a miracle, the devil will parade. He'll help you hear testimonies of people who died of this and they only had it half as bad as you of relatives. He'll parade that. But when Goliath was parading himself and taunting the armies of God, David got up and started parading something. I killed a bear. I killed a lion. You have your own testimonies, and you better parade them when the devil starts parading his mess. Because if you don't, if you don't, you'll end up considering the wrong thing. So just know this. Miracles don't come by accident. They come on purpose. People have set themselves that God is God's ruling this. And it's going to be God's way. Because the word is God, not my body, not the symptoms, not the past. I don't care how many uncles and aunts died of this, not me. Quit considering who didn't. You don't know what went on in the heart of that person between them and God. You don't know how silent people are about God's inward dealings with them. So don't just go by the outside, because you just don't know. So he considered not his own body when he was about 100 years old. Neither yet did he consider the deadness of Sarah's womb. What's that mean? He had reasons all around him not to have his miracle. But he had one word that told him why he was going to have his miracle. Amen. So how does someone weaken their faith? They consider what they ought not to touch. You cannot touch everything available to you and arrive at God's best. Amen. When our what our attention goes on affects our faith and it will affect the outcome. Abraham protected the strength of his faith by keeping his attention off the wrong thing. And that takes being occupied with something else. By being occupied with the word, keep that word in front of you. Keep that word in front of you. I mean, they gave you tonight. I'm already healed. I'm already whole. That song is one way to help keep your attention on the right thing. Off the wrong thing that would rob you of God's best to consider not. It says he consider. Not to consider not means not to think about it, not touch it. In your thought life. Don't turn it over in your mind. We have to discipline our thought lives if we're going to walk in divine health. Because your health doesn't just begin in your body. Amen. We can't keep wrong thoughts from coming, but we can decide if they get in or not.
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And real victory is not the devil leaving you alone. Real victory is you being completely unimpressed with him right in the presence of every circumstance of him not getting your attention. And we have an exact example, a supreme example in Acts 16, when Paul and Silas beaten and thrown in prison for doing good. What is that? The devil using the legal system against people who are doing the will of God. You find it all through the word, the legal system being used. And the legal system was used. And they were beaten and thrown in prison. You know, their body felt a lot. And they could have considered the wrong thing easily. But what did they do? They had to out talk it. They had to get louder than what they felt to consider not the wrong thing. You better be saying something. You just better be saying something. Amen. We have to answer everything that is not in line with what God says. Because when you're believing God for a miracle, you don't have any room for anything except but what God says. Amen. And praising God is absolutely. After you answer that thought, you have to say, that's not my thought. That's not my thought. God already told me. And you have to be able to say what God already said to you through the word or by his Spirit. And you have to answer it. And then you have to occupy your attention by praising and worshiping and praising and worshiping. Because when you his praise shall continually be in my mouth, mouth wide, to keep your attention on what he says. Because attention on the wrong thing robs us of God's best. Amen. Lillian B. Yeomans made this statement. She said this phrase, consider not. And she went to this passage and she said, these words, consider not, are blessed words. They are an unfailing refuge from the fiery darts. So when fiery darts come and strike the mind, guess what you could say, oh, I already know what to do with that. I consider it not. And she said, when you learn to consider not, that's your refuge, that you're not the victim of fiery darts, you're the master of them. You're not trying to outthink them. You're putting them out by not even giving them notice and recognition. I love something. When a Bible school student asked David Oyedepo, who has one of the largest churches in the world, and he has a Bible school, a university, a church, and one of the students said, you know, with God having given you such a large voice in the body of Christ, he said, you must have faced a lot of opposition. And David Oyedepo gave this answer. He looked up and he said, well, I guess I have. I just haven't noticed. There's your refuge. There's your refuge not noticing because you're occupied with a greater place that we're offered. And that's the place of faith. That's the place of the word. We're occupied with the word. If we're troubled, it's our fault. You understand that? If we're troubled, it's our fault. It's not the devil's fault for offering us troubling thoughts. It's our fault for considering what he says. Consider a liar, and your life doesn't get better. Amen. Victory is not the devil leaving you alone. Victory is you being completely untroubled right in his presence because he doesn't even get your consent, consideration. So, Yeoman said, these words, consider not, are blessed words. They are an unfailing refuge from the fiery darts. They are a heavenly atmosphere. Why, when you learn, when you have the skill over your thought life and your attention, that it doesn't go anywhere. I don't permit it to go. The devil is not in charge of my attention. He's not in charge of my thought life. I am. And when you recognize that, then that means you quit being pushed around, the devil pushing you here and pushing you there at his whim. Amen. You're in charge. Rule and reign. Rule and reign. I am not Coping with troubling thoughts by going the psychological route. Amen.
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You can't out think a devil. He can out think you. And don't you forget it. Don't get on his low level. You just don't even acknowledge. Don't even consider what he says. Anything he offers you, you say, that's not my thought. I've already got my thought authored to me from God. And then you turn your back to it. Jesus had to do that. He physically would do that. He did that in the wilderness of temptation. And he did it again when Peter was trying to encourage Jesus that he wasn't going to die. And Jesus said, get thee behind me, Satan. And he turned his whole body to demonstrate. You will not get my attention. Those words fall because he recognized that those were words that the devil was trying to plant in him. And he turned his body around physically to demonstrate to that devil. You're not getting my attention. I'm not just saying it. I'm showing it by my body. You won't get it. And can I tell you that? Let me tell you this. I think it was. Kiley. Did you tell about Billy being here Wednesday night and about her talking, interviewing that person who went to heaven? I think you said it Sunday morning, didn't you? She said, go watch it. I did. Did you? You need to. It is so, so good. But she makes a statement and I'm not even talking about the part. And you know what? I keep replaying the part on Heaven was good, but I loved the part with her and Shelly. Me too.
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Okay, but in that she was talking about how she was learning to walk in love when she got around dad Hagin's ministry. And she said I had all the love skills mastered until I ran across the one that says that love's not touchy. And she goes, what's wrong with being touchy? It was charming. And she said, dad Hagin said this to them. He said, one of these flows of love are going to be your tripping point. Said, take that, write it on an index card and post it wherever you can see it. And many maybe on your rear view mirror, on your refrigerator, on your bathroom. Post that one. And then she said this. You do not overcome and live the life God authored for you by trying.
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You come into it by speaking the word to it. So she said, I didn't try not to be touchy. She said, I posted the scripture that says love is not touchy. And she said, I'd quote the word. You see that we're trying to do better when we just need to say better. If you will say, if you're held by any addiction, any bondage, I'm talking about any perversion you're dealing with, any of that, don't try to do better. Find a scripture. Because the Word. The word is God. The word is God. Find a scripture, and even if it doesn't seem like a living thing to you, write it down and put in front of you. And every time that thought, every time something tries to trouble you, pull that scripture out. Carry that card with you and pull it out and say it and say, you don't have to have. Where we miss it. We want to list 44 things. It only takes one word. One word. One word, one word. Get one scripture that the spirit of God quickens you and you say, pastor Nancy, I'm a baby Christian. I don't know too many scriptures. How about this one? No weapon formed against me shall prosper. I'm giving you one. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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No weapon formed against me shall prosper. Don't try to do better, say better. And the word is the better. The word is the better. Say the word. Say the word. Say the word. Hallelujah. Now I'm yelling like David. Praise the Lord and I love. Billy said that that's how she stepped out of that flow of touchy into the divine flow of love. She didn't try to do better. She just turned. Every time that was being pushed on a button on her, she would just say, love is not touchy. Amen. Now, I just told you how to walk free from every addiction, every bondage, every. I just told you how to do that. Find a scripture that's quickened to your heart, write it down and answer it. Carry it with you. Carry it with you and put the word on it. I love something that brother Keith Moore told this testimony years ago. He was, I believe it was while he was an instructor at Rhema. And this man walked up to him and said, brother Keith, he said, you know, I'm learning the Word. But he said, I. I have a habit I've not been able to break. He said, what is it, brother? He said, I'm a smoker. And he said, I'm trying not to quit. I'm trying to quit smoking. He says, I've thrown out cartons of cigarettes and, you know, I go back and pick them back up out of the trash. And, you know, I'd throw them out the window, Then I'd turn the car around and go get them back out of the bar ditch. And he said, so please don't tell me throw out my cigarettes. I've already done it. It doesn't work. What's he trying to do? He's trying to consider. Not without picking up the right thing. You can't consider. Not unless you're considering the right thing. It's not what you don't consider, it's what you do consider. Considering the right thing displaces the wrong. But this is such a key part of faith. It's how Abraham arrived at faith, like God. And so he said to Keith, he said, don't tell me to throw out my cigarettes. He says, no, don't throw out your cigarettes. He said, really? He said, yeah, don't. He said, how often do you smoke? He said, oh, about four or five times a day. He said, good, keep smoking. He said, what do you do? He said, my guess is this. He says, you take it out, you know, you. You kind of scoot it out of the pack, and then you thump it a little bit on the box, right? He says, yeah. You know that smokers have their ways. They have their ticks, you know, they just kind of do this. They tap it and they got their lighter with them, got their favorite lighter. They got a system. They got a system. Smoking system, right? He said, when do you smoke? He said, well, I smoke, you know, after a meal. I smoke when I get up. I smoke right before I go to bed. He said, good, keep that. Do all of that. Do all of that. He said, really? He said, yeah, do all of that. But. He said, but the next time you smoke. And he said, take that. Take the. Take the pack out of your, you know, shirt pocket. You always had my dad. I know my dad's a smoker. You got. You won't buy a shirt without a pocket here, because that's where he kept your cigarettes. So he said. So he said, you got your pack good. Keep your pack with you. Keep it with you. And he said, and when you take your pack out, say, thank God I'm free from smoking. And go ahead and take out your cigarette, tap it, thump it on that carton, pack it down nice and tight, and then you go to light up. He said, when you go to light it up, pull your, you know, your lighter out of your pocket, say, thank God I'm free from smoking. And then he said, put that thing in your mouth and Do a big deep drag on it. And he said, but when you take that first drag, say, thank God I'm free from smoking. And he said, but don't get under condemnation smoking it. He said, enjoy every. Every part of it. Why? Because he's not trying. He's not trying to do better. He's saying better. He said, don't get under condemnation because I'm telling you, do this. He said, I can do that. I can enjoy that. See, that's the problem, is we get under condemnation, then we try in ourselves. But the word is God. The trying isn't God. When we say God, we're thinking ruling and reigning, right? The word rules and reigns. Your trying will not rule and reign. It takes the word. And so he said, after every meal, light up, enjoy it. Say, thank God I'm free from smoking. He that the sun sets free is free indeed, and I'm free from smoking. He said, say it every time. Say it in between every puff. Just enjoy that. But just say it. And about three weeks later, he came back and he said, brother Keith, he said, I need to tell you something. He said, brother, did you do what I said? He said, I did. I walked right out of that counseling appointment and I did it. And he said, I got in my car and I smoked. And after every meal, before I went to bed, when I got up in the morning, he said, good, good, good, good, good, good. He said, how'd that work out for you? He said, just yesterday, he said, I went to take another. I went to light up. And he said, it dawned on me in here, I'm free from this. And he said, I put it down and I don't want another one. What was it? It's not trying. It's using the word. It's considering the word. It's putting what God said in place instead of your trying in place. So when it said he conscious his own body and he considered not the body of Sarah, what did he do? He considered according to what God had spoken. He considered. He kept his attention on what God said. Why is it that the first generation of Hebrews never arrived? Because they did not consider what God said. They considered what was against them in the land. But what was the difference between them and Caleb? Caleb said, give me my mountain. I love what Dr. Sumrall said about Caleb. He said, I'm going to be like Caleb at 85. He says, At 85, I'm going to say to God, give me my mountain. And I'll. And I'll. And I'll slay the giants and fertilize the earth with their carcasses he was feeding on, feeding on, feeding on. I want you to know, when you get so full of the Word, the flow of it is so easy. It just. It sweeps you up in its flow. Amen. This is why people are troubled. They're not full of what they need to consider, so their soul is available to the wrong thing.
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When you're not full, any old thing can fill your tank. Well, praise the Lord. So Yeomans made this statement, heavenly atmosphere. This word consider, not a heavenly atmosphere where no germ or disease can survive for the fraction of a second when you are in the place of consider not. She said, this do not accord to the physical symptoms of passing thought. Refuse to take them into your calculations if you consider your own body paying attention to the symptoms. That's why they persist. As long as you consider them, they will persist. But we are to consider the Word and the Word will dominate. Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. I was listening to one woman that she had gone to the doctor and just for a checkup. And the doctor said, well, they said, there's a place of concern that we have with you, and so said, we want you to come back for an ultrasound because we have. There's a lump that is in one of your breasts. And so they said, we want you to come back and we want to do an ultrasound. So she set up to do an ultrasound. And when they were taking a picture of the area where they of concern for the doctors, there was a nurse there, there was a doctor there, and they found that place across. And they turned the screen around of the machine so they could show her that she saw a place on the screen. And they said, this dot here is the place of concern for us. They said, it should not be there. And she said within herself, as she laid on that examining table, she said, oh, God, if I only hadn't seen it. Because when she saw it, she said, it seemed to make it so real. And she said, when she just said that within herself to God, she said, the spirit of God spoke back and said, is what you see greater than what I say? And she said, oh, God, forgive me, what I see is not greater than what you say. So I thank you for what you say. I thank you that you have already said that I'm healed. So I thank you for what you have said in the face of what I see. And the moment she said that on that screen with the doctor and the nurse looking on there became a circle of light around that and said they, because the screen was facing her and them. And they watched that circle of light just shrink down and get smaller and smaller and smaller until it completely encompassed that lump. And then as soon as it went completely around it, it just like a firework went. And the thing, the light disappeared and the lump was gone. Why? What you consider. What you consider. Well, thankfully, she had that medical technology right there to see it. You don't have a machine strapped to you possibly, but I want you to know you can know this. The moment faith is released, power always begins to flow. The moment faith is released, power always begins flowing. You don't have to feel it, you don't have to see it, but we believe it. Because the power of God meets faith. Amen. Hallelujah. Well, I had other sermons up here, but we'll just go with what God had for us. Because the skill of faith is not just knowing what not to consider, but it's knowing what to consider. I. I was talking to one pastor, and he had somebody in his church, and the outcome was not as they wanted. And the pastor said this to me. He says, I know why it didn't come out right. Because they learned not to talk sickness. But they never learned to talk the word. See, in this faith life, we've been taught. We've been learned. We're taught. Been taught. Don't say the wrong thing. Well, that's part of it. Don't say the wrong thing. But you do have to say the right thing. And it's not failing to say the wrong thing, but it is purposefully saying the right thing. Abraham believed according to what was spoken. What was spoken. Amen. Not what. Just wasn't. Not saying the wrong thing, but saying the right thing. Amen. And I want you to know, if you say, pastor Nancy, I've just been harassed in my mind. I've been troubled in my mind. Don't say that anymore. Just say something different than that. Just say, I have the mind of Christ, a sound mind. He has not given me the spirit of fear, but he has given me a sound mind. Is our inheritance. It's part of our inheritance in Christ. He said, my peace. I leave with you the peace that governed him, that when his life was all, it was threatened on a continuous basis throughout three years of earthly ministry. He was completely untroubled because he had learned the peace of God dominated him and governed him. And he said, my peace, I leave it with you. Amen. Hallelujah. We have everything, everything that has already been given us. That pertains to life and godliness. It's already ours. But what is it? Many times, if people would realize that their healing is as simple as getting your attention off of the body and getting it on the healing word and fill up with it, the mind being peaceful, getting it off of what the devil is suggesting. And you say, I'm trying not to think it. I'm trying not to think it. It's not trying not to think the wrong thing. It's pouring in the right thing.
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You don't have to get rid of wrong thoughts. Pour right ones in until it fills up your tension. Amen. Hallelujah. Stand with me, if you would. Father, we thank you tonight. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. We thank you, Father. We glorify you. We magnify you. Just lift up your hands and let's worship him tonight. Father, we say this. If you say this with me, any place, any arena of my life where my attention has been compromised, where it's been on something that's been troubling. Father, I repent.
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And I say, I come in line. I come into agreement with your Word. And I fill my thoughts, I feel my attention, I fill my mouth with what you say. Because in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God. And the Word was God. And it is God in my life. It is God in every situation, in every circumstance. The Word is God.
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Hallelujah. To consider the wrong thing is to disobey the Word.
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And we're catching it. I said we're catching it. Skill is not just fixing something. Skill is recognizing when something's not as it should be. Because so many people have lived with fear. They have lived with thoughts filled with their body, filled with their circumstances, filled with their situations. And that has become such a flow of their life, they don't even recognize that it's off the word. But part of the skill of faith is recognizing what isn't of the Word. Amen. And then dealing with it. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you.
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And all things will change. Consider the Word. Circumstances will be rearranged. Consider the Word each moment day by day by day by day. Consider the Word. And even body parts will be rearranged. Consider the Word. And watch old things, patterns. Rearranged as you consider, as you consider, as you consider the word, put up our hands and bless Jesus for a moment. Oh, we do that. Yes, we do that.
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Hallelujah, David. I mean, what a joy to know I don't have to think the way I've been thinking. Oh my gosh, I don't have to have a mind like that anymore. That's what Yeoman's was talking about. It's a blessed release from that.
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It was probably around 5 o' clock this, just getting ready for church and I wasn't sure, you know, you just have thoughts to come to you. And I heard this on the inside of me and I thought if Pastor Nancy calls on me and that comes back up in my heart, then I'll say it. And so you look at me and say something about the, the, the mind and the, the. I heard this on the inside that there are several that have for days and weeks and even months been in this loop. Yeah, a loop of tormenting thought, a loop of conversation with yourself, a loop of. A loop of an argumented voice even with something else. And I look at me, I've been there during the night when the loop is running and you just say, I've already had that conversation. I've already settled that. If it was, I've already won the argument, stop it, so to speak. Do you understand that? And there it is 15 seconds later after you said, I'm not thinking that anymore. And there the loop begins again. There the loop begins again. And you worship for a second and you answer that, that. And the loop begins again. This is what I heard and it's never come out of me this, that way. Blow up the loop tonight. Blow it up. Yeah, yeah, blow it up. And so I don't know exactly what to do with that because I know in a service like that, see, you get in the corporate anointing and you get under the preaching of the teaching of the word and the loop is not running. Yeah, but the service, service comes to an end. But you can receive help in a service that'll shut it up, stop it. And you can get help immediately to silence it. And so then when it starts again in the night, said, oh no, I'm free from that. I'm free from that. Just as surely as I had hands laid on me for a sickness or a disease to be replaced, removed. Blow up the loop. And I don't know who I'm talking to, but I've been there and I know what the loop sounds like and it's reoccurring and it's reoccurring and it's reoccurring and it's reoccurring and it shuts up. And when you shut up. Or it keeps going when you shut.
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Up and it tries to make you think you don't have your. That it's. You don't have your mind anymore. That it's your mind. That's. That's where God taught me that book. Answered number one, you answer that thought. You answer that thought. Number two, you tell the devil, which is the spirit of fear that spoke that thought, to leave. Because if you don't deal with the devil speaking it to you, he'll stay in the room and keep speaking it to you. And then number three, you worship and you praise to get your attention off of the threat and onto the victory that's yours. And if you have to stay up all night to worship and praise, you do it to get that pattern stopped.
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It's almost like a groove.
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Yes, it is. It's a rut that goes just around a loop.
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Has anybody been there beside me? I don't know what to do with that.
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I just don't blow up the loop. Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's for physical healing tonight, but healing is still for the mind, too. Amen. So let's start with that. And I'm talking about. Everyone has to deal with thoughts. Do not come up here for a generic. That's just. That's just. We just. We just. Every day, we just have the positive flow of resistance.
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Right?
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But I'm talking about some. Someone who is entrenched. And you say, I am tormented, I'm harassed, I cannot sleep. My mind doesn't seem like it's my mind. And that's what the devil wants you to think. I want you to know your mind is still your mind. It's not his. You come up here. If that's you. If that describes, you come up here real quickly and into this. Because if you don't deal with it, he'll try to lead it into a suicidal pattern even, because you start losing hope. And I want you to know we go to the Word and get all the hope we need. Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. I said praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. And know this, that the devil doesn't just strike randomly. It's at times when God is endeavoring to bring you into More when there's trying to. He's trying to bring you further into some things. And the devil tries to put up a smokescreen, so to speak, of an overactive, troubled, tormented mind to try to arrest your progress. Progress. Amen. So just know this. There's something good on the other side. That's what I'm saying. He's trying to block your entrance from something further that God has for you. Hallelujah. And even if it's just nothing more than skill with the renewed mind that's greater. Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Congregation, can you join your faith with us tonight on this? Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Reach out your hands toward these. Those of you that are up here. Say this. When hands are laid on me, the anointing of God will go into my body. It will drive out, it will break off those troubling thoughts. And I will do my part when I leave this line. And I will not consider the threats, the suggestions, but I fill my thoughts and my attention with the Word and with praise of God. Amen. Hallelujah. Know this. The more you renew your mind, the further you renew your mind, the sweeter your life will be. Amen. So we have a lifelong occupation of continuing to just renew our minds with the Word. Amen. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Congregation, reach your hands out with us. Pray in the Holy Ghost, if you would, for her. Yeah, hi. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I say be free. Satan, you take your hands off her. In Jesus name, you be free in Jesus name, you be free in Jesus name, you be free in Jesus name, you be free in Jesus name. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in his name. Be free in Jesus name. You be free in Jesus name. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free. Be free in his name. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in Jesus name. Now, can I tell you this? Have you ever had your car? You go out, whether it's in the morning or late at night, the weather cold or something, and your battery won't turn over. And what do they do? They'll get a car that the battery is charged and it's working, and they'll put it face to face. And they'll put jumper cables. These are jumper cables right here. Jumper cables. Jumper cables. When my dad at one time, he had to jump start my car and he said, honey, get in that car and drive it. Don't turn it off. It's got to have time to charge. Don't walk out of here and go do what you've been doing. Go places you shouldn't go. Watch what you shouldn't watch, say what you shouldn't say. Because that's going to turn off the flow of what you receive. You have to keep it running God's direction. Amen. Just keep the word when you go get in your car, turn on, just start worshiping, turn on music, turn on preaching. Do something to keep the flow of God going around your life. Hallelujah. Fill up, fill up. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. We thank you, Father. Be free in Jesus name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Be free in his name. Let me tell you what some people do. They get up in a healing line, ministry line, and then they check, did it work? Seriously, they pause a moment or they resist the devil for themselves. And then they pause and say, did it work? You have to walk out of here saying, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free. And you say, well, it doesn't feel like it. Just keep saying it. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Let's sing a little something. Let's do something Them. What about that song you. What about those words?
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Just say this. I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free.
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You declare it. I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free. I'm indeed I am free, I'm free.
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Friend, you got it.
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I'm free.
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I feel like you got something.
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When all things try to grab my attention, I consider the world Word. When pain tries to steal my joy. When pain in my body tries to steal my freedom. I consider the Word, Consider the Word, the truth, the life of God. I consider the Word, Consider the Word, Consider the Word. Consider the word. That's what I do. I consider, consider, Consider the world Try to steal my joy. I consider, consider the world. I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free The Lord says I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free Indeed, yes. Yes is when thoughts try to come. You know what I do? I go in the word. And what there is true. I consider the word. Yes, I consider the word. When the devil tries to talk, you know what I tell him? I have a word that I can put in my mouth and I consider that is the truth. That is the back. Oh, what he says is true. My God, what he says. So I consider the word. Consider the word. I consider the word. Consider the word. Say I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free the world says I'm free, I'm free, Free.
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Well, can I say this? What I'm expecting. I'm expecting all of the stores in this area that sell out of index cards, because every one of us are believing for something, and we have to keep that in front of us. Go and watch Wednesday night. I don't know the date. This past Wednesday. No, not last night. A week ago. This past Wednesday. Right. Was it October 1st? I don't remember. It's October 1st. Go to a glorious church on YouTube. On the YouTube. On YouTube. It's not the YouTube.
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No, no, no.
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Anyway. And do that. And I say all the stores sell out of index cards. You're gonna have to go to Amazon. How about that? You sing it this way, but sing it. I'm healed instead of I'm free.
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I'm healed, I'm healed I'm healed, I'm healed I'm healed, I'm healed. I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here I am here I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. Oh, yes, I am, yes. When pain tries to tell me what to say, you know what I tell? I'm already human. You can't have any of this domain. I'm free, I'm Healed because of Jesus. Oh yes. When thoughts try to come I have something to say. All I have to do is consider the word. Consider the Word. Yes, I consider the Word. Put the life of God in my mouth It'll trust me. Every situation I consider the Word. I'm heal, I'm healing. I'm healing. I'm healing, I'm healed. Cause the Word says I'm healed. I'm heal, I'm healing. Let's hear the Word Sing. Oh yes, I'm healed. Oh yes, I am. Yes, I am. Thoughts try to come from the enemy. The way, the truth, the life is in the Word. Consider the word. Always, always consider the word.
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Hallelujah. If Ms. Reba would come. Let's sing again. I'm already healed. Let's sing it.
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I'm already here. I am at home. Mention his name. Sickness must go stand on his word. Say that again. Stand on His Word and speak His Word. I said come on and speak his word. It's my Father's will. Cause the work has been done. I'm already here. Sing. I'm already here. I am made for. Mention his name. Sickness must go Stand on His word. It's all promise. The work has been done. I'm already here. I am able.
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Sometimes it takes a little more than just to mention his name. I mean, that's great. That's highly developed faith.
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Just.
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My grandmother used to say, just whisper Jesus, and that's great.
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Baby.
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There have been times when I've gathered every Bible in the house and just opened them up and laid them on me, Said, reba, you will get this word in you one way or another. I got a big old family Bible that I paid 5.99 at a garage sale. You know, one of those that's got all the pictures and stuff. I can't tell you the times I've gone into my closet, put that Bible down and just stood there. Sometimes radical battle requires radical action. And I'm not telling you, don't mention the name of Jesus. You better know I. I say his name so many times today that whatever he tells you to do, you do it. If you have to get a special purse that carries those index cards around, you have to give up one on a lanyard around your neck. You say, I'm going to speak life.
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I'm going to speak the Word.
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I'm tired of speaking death. I'm not considering my body. I'm not considering what's trying to invade my mind. No, I'm going to consider the Word.
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I'm Going to consider it Consider the word, Consider the word, consider the wor. It's I. Lies that I've heard I'm going to speak that's the truth and I'll consider the word, consider the world, consider the. I'm not going to speak, I'm not going. The lies that I've heard, the lies that I speak the truth I speak the truth Me, I'm not going to sleep the lies, the lies that I. I'll speak the truth one more time.
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Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Aren't you glad you're authorized to never touch anything that troubles you again? Ah, hallelujah. Rachelle, how do we want to do this? Do we want to just. You want to do sections? You want to do every one at once? What's the sections? Okay, so if you came tonight to have hands laid on you for healing, you can come into this aisle right here of this section and that far section over there. You can get in that aisle nearest you and then we'll get the center sections in a moment. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.
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Me, I am able mention his name Sickness must go stand on his work has been done. I already I am way home.
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Glory. Hallelujah. Pastor Craig, I'm going to have you to come right here. Get behind him, Kenny. Just. Thank you. This is Pastor Craig Field. He flew in for the service tonight, all the way from Toronto, Canada, just to be in the service service tonight. He's been on the road himself traveling. But God said to me, there's another component you need in that healing anointing. So tonight that comes. Just hold out your hands in front of you. Father, I thank you for that, which is I. Where's Sister Pat? Grab me a mic and would Sister Pat come? Sister Pat, you have something, so don't look to how it's manifested through others, but it will flow very uniquely through you. And so you are to make sure you follow exactly how he tells you to minister that healing anointing. Because it will look different, because it's intended to look different, but the result will be glorifying to him.
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Yes.
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Yeah, Yemaha. Yeah, Yemaha. Yeah, Soma. So go forward a different way. Go forward in greater power. Go forward in greater boldness. Because the anointing of God meets boldness. Yes. Yeah. Sabihi haha somalati baby. And rejoice your way all the way through it and glorify him because it will magnify him and he will get much glory. Through your obedience to his flow.
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Yes.
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Mama, Mama, Mama. It's super strong. Strong, strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Muma suma, mama. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. And so much more than you ever knew. And you'll come into so much more than you ever. That you didn't even know. That you didn't know. Yeah, yeah. More, more.
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More, more, more.
A
Yeah. Hallelujah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. You got anything else? Okay. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord.
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Hallelujah.
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Yes. Do it. Receive the healing anointing and be healed in Jesus name. Take your. Take your liberties.
B
Hallelujah.
A
I just want to land on her. Okay.
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All right.
A
Hallelujah. Okay. Pastor Craig, I'm going to start at this end. You're going to start at that end. So I need ushers with me. I need ushers with him. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. We thank you, father. Everyone that's going to be up here in this line tonight, say this with me. When hands are laid on me, the healing power of God will go into my body. It will drive out pain and symptoms, sickness and disease, and I shall be whole. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. Be whole in his name. Be whole in it. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. Behold, in his name. Behold, in his name. Behold. Behold in his name. Behold, in his name. Behold, in his name. Behold, in his. In his name. Behold, in his name.
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In the name of Jesus. Holy Sam.
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Behold in his name. Behold in his name. Behold in his name. Behold in his name. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. We thank you, Father, for wholeness that that anointing will drive out pain and symptoms. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his. So we ask the Lord. Let's just lift up your voice and.
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Sing a little bit.
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So we bless the Lord.
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So we bless.
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So we bless the Lord. Everyone lift up your voices. So we bless the Lord.
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Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. Behold, in his name.
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Behold, in his name.
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Behold, in his name.
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Behold, in his name.
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Behold, in his name. Behold in his name.
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Behold in his name.
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Behold, in his name.
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Behold, in his name. Behold, in his name.
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Behold, in his name.
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Behold, in his name. Behold, in his name. Behold, in his name. Behold, in his name. Behold, in his name. Sa.
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So we lift our hand.
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So we lift our hands. So we lift. Behold.
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So we live. So we live.
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Behold in his name. Behold in his name. Behold in his name. Behold in his name. Behold in his name.
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These two middle sections, if you want want hands laid on you, the two middle sections go out to the side aisles there, if you would.
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Bless the Lord, my soul. Bless the Lord, my soul. Sa.
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Saint.
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Behold in the night. Behold.
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In the night.
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Behold. Behold. Holy. Holy. Holy. Holy. Holy. Holy. So we lift our. What's that?
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Father, we thank you for creative miracle. We thank you for creating. We thank you, Father, for that creative power that resur. That resurrection power. We thank you for it, Father. We thank you for it, Father, we thank you for it.
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Father.
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We thank you. We thank you, Father. We thank you for it. We thank you for it, Father. We thank you for it, Father. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's born with his brain on the outside.
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Glory.
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Holy.
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Glory. Glory, Glory. Sam.
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What do you do, bud? You're a pastor? Yeah. There's some kind of impartation that went in. Yeah, yeah. Everyone is. Everyone that's on the front row here. Pastors. Where, where, where are all. Where are the pastors? Raise your hand. Or full time fivefold ministry. Raise your hands. Yeah, yeah. If you want. There's something to be imparted. If you want to. You're not required to, but come up here and we'll minister to you. It's up to you. What I want you to do is just hold your hands out right in front of me. Let's go. I want to start down here. Sister Pat, can I ask you to walk with me on this one? We'll just start down here, if you would. Let's just start down here at this end. Stay right with her. Yeah. Just hold your hands right out in front of you, Sister Pat. However you want to do it. Yeah. Thank you, Father. Now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. However you want to do it. Yes. There is so much more. There is so much more that has not been explored. Ah, but it is your great adventure to. To explore what has been there all along. It's ready. It's time for it to flow.
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Time.
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My sticky, sticky. Different.
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Different.
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Different stories. Different than it has been. Maz. Nah.
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Yeah. Watch. Sa. Ma Ram.
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There's a few more. Just bring them down here. Bring them down to her.
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Enough power in this room to heal your mind. Enough power in this room to silence all the torment. Power that could raise the dead to life. There's enough power. Word. To heal your body. There's enough power in this room to heal your. Power that can change the way. Power that can raise the devil. Tonight we receive the power. We receive the power. We receive the power. We receive the power. Receive the power. We receive.
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Receive the power.
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We receive the power. We receive the power. We receive the power. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah, Father, we thank you. Ha ha ha. Well, Damon, it's a new day. It's a new day. It's a new day. And it will appear to you to be a new way, but it's the familiar way that God authored us all along, and he's been well acquainted with this way. And you'll walk in it. You'll walk in it and you'll just step back and say, is this really my life? Is this really. Is this really? Yeah. Father, we thank you. God knows how to lose nothing. Nothing lost. Just give me your hands. Father, we thank you. Refreshed in it. Refreshed in it. Running, running, running, running. Ah, we thank you, Father. Thank you, Father, because you're part. The body of Christ needs it vitally. Thank you, Father, for that part. Thank you. Thank you, Father. And refreshed in it. Refreshed in it. Refreshed. Refreshed. We thank you. Refreshed in it. Refreshed. Refreshed in it. We thank you, Father. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord.
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Now, for those of you that the ministers that had hands laid on you, don't forget teaching, preaching, and healing. We're not authorized. This is a package deal, and we're not authorized to separate the package. Amen. So we're doing more of teaching, preaching, and healing. And don't. And realize this, that you have to give place for healing. You have to make room for it in your services. And don't teach it away and don't preach it away. My husband would warn us all the time about people preaching and teaching until the anointing lifted off of them. And Richard Roberts was saying to us, something to the effect of Brother Oral Roberts was asked Brother Roberts, what would you tell me as a minister? And he said, preach shorter and minister longer. Because if we're not careful, we preach and teach until past the anointing. And then you don't give space for God to confirm it with signs following. So give space. Amen. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Father, we thank you. Just lift up your hands and thank him. Jesus, we honor you tonight. You're such a wonderful healer. You're such a wonderful healer, and we thank you. And we say the word is God. Thank you for your word. Thank you for your word. Thank you for your word. We just thank you so much for all that has come about this week. Thank you so, so much. We praise you and we glorify you. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Consider The Word | Nancy Dufresne | Collinsville, Oklahoma | JTH Crusades 2025 | Thursday PM
Date: October 14, 2025
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne and others
This episode, led by Pastor Nancy Dufresne at a JTH Crusade meeting, centers on the spiritual principle of “considering the Word” above all else. Drawing from foundational Scriptures, Pastor Nancy and guest ministers exhort listeners to focus on what God says in His Word rather than symptoms, circumstances, or negative patterns of thought. The episode is both teaching and ministry, including prayer for mental and physical healing, impromptu songs declaring God’s truth, encouragements, and practical instruction for building a lifestyle rooted in God’s promises.
“Circumstances, feelings, situations have to fall because they're not God. And you have to remind opposition, you are not God. In my finances, in my body, in my marriage, you are not God. There is a God, and he is sovereign...” (00:31)
“These words, consider not, are blessed words. They are an unfailing refuge from the fiery darts.” (19:21)
“You do not overcome and live the life God authored for you by trying. You come into it by speaking the word to it.” (26:39)
The meeting is both instructional and dynamically encouraging, filled with faith, worship, and practical demonstrations of healing ministry. Pastor Nancy’s style is authoritative yet nurturing, frequently calling the audience to actively participate through confession, worship, and practical application.
This episode is a thorough call to center life, health, thoughts, and outcomes on the reality and authority of God’s Word. Listeners leave with not only practical tools but also a renewed vision for living above circumstances through faith, confession, and continual focus on the promises of God.
[For more from Dufresne Ministries, visit dufresneministries.org.]