Podcast Summary

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Consider The Word | Nancy Dufresne | Collinsville, Oklahoma | JTH Crusades 2025 | Thursday PM
Date: October 14, 2025
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne and others

Episode Overview

This episode, led by Pastor Nancy Dufresne at a JTH Crusade meeting, centers on the spiritual principle of “considering the Word” above all else. Drawing from foundational Scriptures, Pastor Nancy and guest ministers exhort listeners to focus on what God says in His Word rather than symptoms, circumstances, or negative patterns of thought. The episode is both teaching and ministry, including prayer for mental and physical healing, impromptu songs declaring God’s truth, encouragements, and practical instruction for building a lifestyle rooted in God’s promises.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Supremacy of God's Word

• Pastor Nancy begins with John 1:1, emphasizing that “the Word was God and still God” (00:10).
• Quote (Nancy Dufresne):

  “Circumstances, feelings, situations have to fall because they're not God. And you have to remind opposition, you are not God. In my finances, in my body, in my marriage, you are not God. There is a God, and he is sovereign...” (00:31)

2. Faith and What You Consider

• Teaching from Romans 4:17-21, she stresses that strong faith isn’t just about believing, but about what you choose to consider.
  • Abraham “considered not his own body... but believed according to what was spoken” (02:40).
  • You weaken your faith by considering the wrong things—symptoms, lack, negative reports, others’ failures.
• Key Concept: To walk in faith, discipline is needed in both thought and speech.
  • “To consider the wrong thing is to weaken our faith... To have strong faith, you have to know what to consider and what not to consider.” (04:04)

3. Practical Application: Shift Your Focus

• Don’t simply ignore problems or symptoms; actively consider God’s promises instead.
  • “You have to pick up something greater to dominate the body so that body doesn’t stay dead. But it comes in line.” (12:08)
• Example of Abraham: Didn't focus on his or Sarah's limitations, focused instead on God’s promise.

4. “Consider Not” as Refuge

• Quoting Lillian B. Yeomans:

  “These words, consider not, are blessed words. They are an unfailing refuge from the fiery darts.” (19:21)

• Rather than trying to out-think the devil or dwell on problems, believers are encouraged to be unimpressed and ignore the devil’s suggestions.
  • “Victory is not the devil leaving you alone. Victory is you being completely unimpressed with him right in the presence of every circumstance...” (19:13)

5. Practical Tools: Speaking the Word

• Share anecdote of overcoming “touchiness” with 1 Corinthians 13:5 (“Love is not touchy”)—writing down scripture, putting it everywhere, and saying the Word, not just trying.
• Quote:

  “You do not overcome and live the life God authored for you by trying. You come into it by speaking the word to it.” (26:39)

• Testimony of someone overcoming addiction (smoking) not by self-effort, but by repeatedly declaring, “Thank God, I’m free from smoking,” demonstrating the replacement principle.

6. The “Loop” of Negative Thoughts

• Ministry to those trapped in negative mental loops.
  • Exhortation: “Blow up the loop tonight.” (46:57)
  • Steps: Answer the thought, rebuke the enemy, then worship until your mind is filled with the Word.

7. Healing Testimonies and Ministry

• Several healing prayers and testimonies given throughout.
• Notable moment: An account of a woman’s healing from a lump as she decided to consider God’s Word above what she saw on the medical screen (35:28).
• Corporate ministry line for both mind and body healing, prayer for freedom from tormenting thoughts and physical issues.
• Emphasis that what you do after ministry matters; keep "charging the battery" by filling up on God’s Word and praise (49:59).

8. Songs and Affirmations: “I’m Free”, “I’m Healed”

• Multiple spontaneous songs and affirmations encourage listeners to declare over themselves:
  • “I’m free, I’m free, I’m free... I’m healed, I’m healed, I’m healed…” (56:21–62:00)
• Instruction to fill attention and conversation with what God says, not what circumstances say.

9. Equipping Ministers

• Exhortation to ministers: make room for teaching, preaching, and healing—don’t “teach or preach away the anointing” but always allow God space to confirm His Word with signs (98:17).

Memorable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “To consider the wrong thing is to weaken our faith." – Nancy Dufresne (04:04)
• “The Word had to be louder to him than his own body.” (07:48)
• “Miracles don't come by accident. They come on purpose.” (16:31)
• “Victory is you being completely unimpressed with him [the devil] right in the presence of every circumstance...” (19:13)
• “Don’t try to do better, say better. And the word is the better.” (27:57)
• Keith Moore smoking testimony: Use the Word in the middle of your struggle, proclaiming freedom with each attempt, rather than relying on self-effort (28:20–34:18).
• “As long as you consider them [symptoms], they will persist. But we are to consider the Word and the Word will dominate.” (35:28)
• Story of healing during ultrasound after considering God’s Word above the medical report. (35:28–37:10)
• “Blow up the loop tonight.” – About breaking patterns of tormenting thoughts (46:57)
• “It's not trying not to think the wrong thing. It's pouring in the right thing.” (42:18)
• “Enough power in this room to heal your mind. Enough power in this room to silence all the torment.” (94:43)

Important Timestamps

• Opening Scriptural Foundation (John 1:1): 00:10–02:00
• Romans 4 and “consider not”: 02:40–15:00
• Key teachings on faith and attention: 15:30–24:00
• Lillian B. Yeomans’ “consider not”: 19:21–21:30
• Practical tools for faith – index cards, speaking the word: 26:30–34:00
• Testimony of overcoming addiction: 28:20–34:18
• Healing testimony (ultrasound): 35:28–37:10
• Dealing with tormenting thoughts/loops: 46:00–49:45
• Corporate healing prayer and “jumper cables” analogy: 49:59–57:00
• Songs of confession (“I’m free” / “I’m healed”): 56:21–62:00
• Final prayers, healing lines, minister impartation: 67:33–98:17
• Final exhortation to ministers: 98:17–end

Practical Takeaways

• Guard your attention and thoughts: Victory in life and healing begins with what you focus and meditate on.
• Speak the Word: Replace negative, habitual thoughts and speech with confessions of God's truth.
• Build practical habits: Write out scripture, keep it visible, and declare it regularly, especially when challenged.
• Don't compare to others’ experiences: Focus on what God has spoken to you, not on others' outcomes.
• Continued renewal is key: Healing (mentally or physically) often requires ongoing attention to God’s Word and an atmosphere of worship and faith.

Episode Tone & Atmosphere

The meeting is both instructional and dynamically encouraging, filled with faith, worship, and practical demonstrations of healing ministry. Pastor Nancy’s style is authoritative yet nurturing, frequently calling the audience to actively participate through confession, worship, and practical application.

Conclusion

This episode is a thorough call to center life, health, thoughts, and outcomes on the reality and authority of God’s Word. Listeners leave with not only practical tools but also a renewed vision for living above circumstances through faith, confession, and continual focus on the promises of God.

[For more from Dufresne Ministries, visit dufresneministries.org.]