Podcast Summary: Cooperating With God's Power, Part Two | Nancy Dufresne | Jesus The Healer Broadcast
Dufresne Ministries Podcast | April 22, 2019

Episode Overview

In this episode, Pastor Nancy Dufresne explores how believers can actively cooperate with God’s ever-present power, emphasizing that faith, right thinking, and gratitude unlock the blessings God has already provided. Pastor Nancy challenges common religious misconceptions, encourages the audience to steward (or “be a custodian” of) what God has given, and highlights the practical steps necessary to manifest healing, provision, and victory in daily life.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. God’s Power Is Ever-Present But Not Automatic ([00:16])

• The Holy Spirit ensures God’s power is always available, but it doesn’t manifest by default.
• “God’s power does not work automatically. It works on purpose. We have to take purposeful steps to cooperate with God’s power to receive of his power.” – Nancy Dufresne (00:32)
• Healing and provision belong to everyone, but only those who learn to cooperate with God’s power receive them (00:56).

2. God Is a Giver, Not a Taker ([01:07])

• Pastor Nancy debunks the commonly held belief that God "takes" loved ones, referencing misinterpretations around Job (“The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away”) and Jesus’s death.
• “There is no scripture that says God took a man. There is such a scripture as God received a man.” – Nancy Dufresne (01:30)
• “God’s not a taker. He’s a giver. Amen. Praise the Lord.” (02:13)
• She highlights that loss often results from ignorance or the devil’s actions, not God’s will: “The devil comes to steal, kill and to destroy. If he can steal the word out of you, he can take things from you… But God’s not a partner to it. God didn’t send it.” (02:27)

3. Skillfulness in Spiritual Things ([03:19])

• Gaining skillfulness in spiritual matters (faith, the fruits of the Spirit, operating in God’s power) is akin to mastering a craft or trade.
• “To be successful, we have to become skillful with spiritual things… if we don’t receive, whose fault is it? It’s our fault. It’s not God’s fault.” (03:43)
• Harboring an offense against God opens the door for future hindrances to receiving (03:56).

4. Right Thinking Enables Cooperation With God’s Power ([04:13])

• Erroneous beliefs can block the flow of God’s power, much like disregarding safety protocols can dangerously expose one to physical power.
• Story of two plant workers who ignored electrical safety protocols, with the analogy that ignorance—even unintentional—can have deadly consequences (05:45).
• “People blame everything on the Lord… it’s based on what you do.” (06:07)

5. Faith Is Connected to Right Thinking ([06:52])

• Right thinking underpins effective faith. Wrong thoughts undermine faith’s ability to work.
• “If you think wrong, it’s going to hinder your faith life. It’s going to injure your faith to think wrong.” (07:05)
• Invitation to examine Colossians 1:12–13 (“He hath delivered us”): Believers have already been transferred from darkness to the kingdom of light (07:57).

6. Identity in the Kingdom of Light ([09:04])

• Believers must recognize their new spiritual citizenship and stop striving for things already provided.
• “Quit living based on your country and live based on your kingdom… You are in the kingdom of peace. You are a part of the kingdom of health. You are a part of the kingdom of prosperity.” (09:25)
• Ignorance or old patterns of thinking (“trying to get free”, “trying to get healed”) keep believers locked in cycles of defeat that Jesus liberated them from (10:37).

7. Taking Authority as Custodians ([13:05])

• Christians are custodians—responsible stewards—of the blessings God has given.
• Analogy: If someone tried to take over your home, you would stand up to protect your family; likewise, believers must resist the enemy’s attempts to steal what is theirs (14:41).
• “Symptoms come to try to steal your health… If you as the custodian, under the lordship of the one who will back you up, when you exercise your authority… your Lord will set his power to back you up.” (15:47)
• Walking in love doesn’t mean being permissive to wrongdoing or the works of the enemy (17:30).

8. Gratitude Unlocks Inheritance ([20:23])

• Colossians 1:12–13 (Amplified) emphasized: Giving thanks to the Father opens awareness and activation of blessings.
• “You’re not earning qualifications to be healed. But you do have to do your part as the custodian under his lordship… giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us and made us fit to share the portion which is our inheritance.” (20:45)
• Thanksgiving is the key practical step to becoming a “partaker” of the inheritance (23:30).
• “As you give thanks, you become a partaker of what you’re thanking him over.” (24:46)
• Personal example: How gratitude was required even for simple household things as a child (25:10).

9. Summary Application and Action ([26:12])

• Giving thanks in all circumstances aligns believers with the reality of their kingdom inheritance in Christ (“Father, I give you thanks. Healing is mine, Provision is mine, Joy is mine, Peace is mine. I’m not trying to get it—it’s mine right now because I am in your kingdom.” – Nancy Dufresne (26:33))
• The enemy only exploits ignorance, not lack of provision from God: “Any Christian that does not have the success God authored for them, it’s because they don’t have knowledge of what God did for them.” (25:52)
• Don’t wait to get to heaven to see what you could have had in abundance now.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “Healing belongs to everyone, but it will only operate for those who cooperate with that healing power.” (00:51)
• “God’s not a taker. He’s a giver.” (01:36)
• “Be interested in learning your spiritual craft of receiving.” (02:59)
• “You are not the sick trying to get healed. You’re the healed and Satan is trying to steal your health with sickness.” (11:52)
• “Quit living based on your country and live based on your kingdom.” (09:25)
• “As you give thanks, you become a partaker of what you’re thanking him over.” (24:46)
• “Father, I give you thanks. Healing is mine, Provision is mine, Joy is mine, Peace is mine.” (26:33)

Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------| | 00:16 | God’s power and cooperation | | 01:07 | God is not a taker; misinterpretations exposed | | 03:19 | Spiritual skillfulness | | 05:45 | Power analogy and responsibility | | 06:52 | Faith and right thinking | | 09:04 | Kingdom identity, Colossians 1:12–13 | | 13:05 | Authority as custodians | | 17:30 | Walking in love ≠ Permissiveness | | 20:23 | Gratitude as the key to inheritance | | 23:30 | Becoming partakers by giving thanks | | 26:33 | Affirmation of inherited blessings |

In Summary:
Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s message is a rousing call to believers to shift their mindset, cooperate intentionally with God’s power by faith, refuse defeatist or old-covenant thinking, take responsibility as custodians of God’s blessings, and—most importantly—activate their inheritance in Christ through ongoing gratitude and faith-filled action.