Podcast Summary: "Faith Comes & Peace Grows"

Speaker: Morgan Dufresne
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Date: December 5, 2019
Location: World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA

Episode Overview

In this episode, Morgan Dufresne delivers a heartfelt teaching on the relationship between faith and peace in the believer’s life. Drawing from key scriptures—primarily Philippians 4, Ephesians 1, and Romans 8—Morgan explores how true peace is cultivated not by understanding every detail of life but by trusting God and communing with Him. With practical wisdom and relatable examples, she emphasizes that while faith naturally comes by hearing God's Word, peace is something that grows as we consistently turn our cares over to God and let go of the need to be in control.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Nature of True Peace

• Scripture Reference: Philippians 4:6–7
• Main Insight: Peace that passes all understanding cannot be attained through natural understanding or controlling situations.
  • “If you want to have peace that passes all understanding, you have to give up the habit of wanting to understand everything.” (00:55)
• Bad habits of the mind—like dwelling in doubt—are more damaging than habits of the flesh (03:34).
• The pursuit of knowledge or control (even through modern tools like the internet) won’t provide supernatural peace. Only a relationship with God will (06:00).

2. Faith Comes, Peace Grows

• Foundational Statement: "Faith comes and peace grows." (13:45)
  • Faith comes by hearing the Word, but peace is cultivated through constant surrender and fellowship with God.
• The Christian life is a balance: growing both faith (by hearing God’s promises) and peace (by releasing the need to understand and striving for control).

3. Letting Go of Understanding

• Letting go, especially of the need to have all the answers, is essential for peace.
  • “There is no peace to be found in natural knowledge.” (09:20)
• Comfort is not the same as peace—true peace shines brightest in discomfort and chaos (10:40).

4. Communion with God and Maintaining Peace

• Scripture Reference: Philippians 4:6 again
• Persistent, thankful communication with God is key to remaining in peace.
• “Prayer… is not praying over and over and over again for a need… From then on, we are thanking God for what He is doing.” (29:30)
• Don’t just “cast your care,” but also maintain expectation and ongoing communication with God.

Notable Illustration:

• The difference between talking to God about an issue and simply thinking about it. If you’re only rehearsing the issue in your mind, you’re likely not remaining in peace (33:10).

5. Peace and Manifestation: The Battle in the Mind

• When faith is present but peace is absent, manifestation is often hindered.
  • “If I take more time thinking about it, I’ll think myself out of my manifestation.” (38:50)
• Fellowship with God, especially in prayer and thanksgiving, keeps us out of natural reasoning and opens the way for revelation.
• “Peace doesn’t come from what you see, it comes from what God says.” (41:00)

6. The Peter Analogy: Faith vs. Peace in the Storm

• Illustration: Peter walking on water (44:10)
  • Peter responded to faith and walked, but lost peace because of external circumstances (the wind and waves).
  • “He lost his peace. Because the wind and the waves unsettled him… If little faith can walk on water, what can your measure of faith do?” (45:20)
• The enemy can’t stop faith from coming; he aims to keep peace from growing.

7. The Law of Love and Peace in the Spirit

• Scripture Reference: Romans 8:6–8
• Carnal (sense-ruled) thinking is hostile to God and prevents peace from flourishing. Peace grows when one operates under the “law of love.”
  • “Lot of believers walk around with the fruit of peace in their heart with no branches growing up to their thought life. For my life… I need the whole orchard.” (54:12)
• The answer to overcoming fear, anxiety, and striving is meditating on who you are in Christ and the depth of God’s love for you.

8. Peace as Supernatural Guard

• Peace, when cultivated, acts as a garrison around the heart and mind—protecting from anxiety, fear, and discouragement (57:55).
• Ongoing fellowship with God allows the Spirit to bring answers, comfort, and supernatural peace.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Letting Go for Peace:
  • “If you want to have peace that passes all understanding, you have to give up the habit of wanting to understand everything.” – Morgan Dufresne (00:55)
• On the Mind’s Search for Control:
  • “No amount of money in your savings can guard your heart and your mind. It’ll make you comfortable, but it’s not peace. Be careful of trying to find comfort and calling it peace.” (09:35)
• On Fellowship with God:
  • “I talk to Him from my spirit. Now my spirit man is receiving from His flow, His Spirit. And what does His Spirit do? He’ll bring me answers. It’ll rise up on the inside: Don’t quit.” (38:00)
• On Peace During Challenges:
  • “True God peace shines the brightest in the midst of discomfort. That’s when it really becomes the superstar in your life.” (10:45)
• On Manifestation Hindrance:
  • “The devil can’t keep faith from coming, but he can keep your peace from growing… If he gets you out of faith, you stop walking with God. If he gets you out of peace, you stop walking with God.” (48:15)
• On Applying the Law of Love:
  • “Worry says God is not enough… So now a new law takes… the law of sin and death goes into effect… The answer to you getting back into peace… is meditating on the law of love, who you are in Christ.” (1:01:25)
• On Victory in Christ:
  • “He gave all of His love for me. He bankrupted heaven because He loved me. So I’m going to give all to that law of love.” (1:12:10)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–13:45 – Introduction; foundational scriptures on peace
• 13:45–29:00 –“Faith comes, peace grows”; stories illustrating quick belief and forgiveness; dangers of wanting to understand
• 29:00–39:00 – Persistence in prayer; difference between praying and reasoning
• 39:00–48:15 – Fellowship with God vs. fellowship with anxiety; illustration of Peter on the water
• 48:15–1:07:00 – Role of the Law of Love; battling carnal thoughts and peace blockers
• 1:07:00–1:13:00 – Practical steps; returning to fellowship and the law of love; closing encouragement

Summary & Takeaways

• Faith comes by hearing, but peace must be cultivated—by surrendering understanding, persistent communion with God, and focusing on the truth of who you are in Christ.
• Peace is not the absence of trouble but the presence of God’s supernatural assurance, despite the circumstances.
• The greatest blockade to peace is the carnal mind’s need for understanding; real peace requires letting go and trusting God’s character and His Word.
• God expects us to communicate with Him continuously, not just ‘cast our care’ once and walk away; peace grows as we maintain that fellowship.
• Victory comes as we submit our minds to the “law of love,” filter out hostile (fear-driven) thoughts, and rest in the faithful nature of our Father.

“If you want to have peace that passes all understanding, you have to give up the habit of wanting to understand everything.”

This episode challenges listeners to go beyond surface-level faith and press into a deep, lasting peace founded on communion with God and the unchanging reality of His love.