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Faith In Resurrection Power | Nancy Dufresne | High Springs, Florida | JTH Crusades 2025 | Wednesday PM
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Everything that was wrong and bad in humanity, God took it all and put it on Jesus. And then Jesus judged it. And then God judged what he had just laid on Jesus. In Romans 8. 3, it says, God condemned sin in the flesh. Not in your flesh, in his flesh. Because everything that was wrong in us was laid on his flesh. Then God condemned it. Ah. So that we are no longer under any condemnation. Amen. Hallelujah. We're no longer under judgment, no longer under a curse. And never let it be said that you're under some kind of a curse. God condemned what was laid on Jesus, and you're under nothing but the blessing. Nothing but the blessing. I said nothing but the blessing. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. You can be seated. And Reba and David and everybody up there just changed my sermon. Thank you. As David said, we were in Europe five weeks, and we got to do two conferences. One was strictly for ministers, and the other was opened. There were about 30% of the congregation was made up of ministers, but there were around 100 ministers at that ministers conference, which is huge in Europe. You may not realize that, but that's huge for Europe. And all the ministers know each other so well because there's a handful of them. And we were getting ready for one of the morning meetings, and I came. I was going to do the service, and I came ready to teach a certain direction until I went down to breakfast, and all the ministers were there. And the pastor that was hosting the conference, his wife sat next to me. And of course, she was well acquainted with all the ministers, and I wasn't. I knew of some of them, but there was a couple there that you've heard me talk about that when Ed and I first met, we got married five weeks from the day we met. And we were only in communication for the last three weeks of those five weeks. Then he was in Germany for nine days during those three weeks. And it was. We got to be with the pastors there at that minister's conference who were from Germany. And so we hadn't seen them since the mid-80s, and they were there. And so we got to renew acquaintance. And they played a very special part in the story of our lives. And the hosting pastor's wife talked to me about these pastors in Germany. And the pastor's wife, 15 years ago, had been diagnosed with cancer, and she went through different treatments, and she was given so much radiation that it cooked her bones and destroyed her bones. And they said, there's nothing that we can do. She was in so much pain from the damage done that when the doctor's footsteps would come in the room, it would vibrate the bed, and she would start screaming in pain from the vibration of his footsteps on the floor. And that was going to be her life. They could offer her no relief. And they said, well, you really need her. Her back and hips were destroyed. They said, you really need metal plates and screws and things. But they said, your bones can't support it, so you're just going to have to live as best as you can. And then they put her on a very strong painkiller that she had to live on every day. And she's lived on it for 13 years. And all the ministers knew her story because they're a very close community of ministers there. And so while they're telling me the story, God said, I'm changing your sermon. And he said, because there's a miracle for her this morning. And so I'm going to tell you the sermon. He told me to tell her. Will God send you to a country for one person's miracle? Absolutely. And so if you would turn with me to Ephesians, chapter one. Ephesians, chapter one. And in verse 16, Paul writes, he says, I cease not to give thanks for you. Can I tell you this? You'll not get offended with people that you're thanking God for. Can I tell you the way to never become offended with your pastor. Thank God that you have pastors every day. How you not get offended with your church family. You thank God that you have a church family. There's a lot of people who long for that. But he said, I cease not to give thanks for you making mention of you in my prayers. That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him. Or we could say this in the knowledge of who you are in him who, verse 18, the eyes of your understanding or the eyes of your spirit. We could say, being enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of his calling, that you may know what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, and that you may know what is exceeding greatness of his power to us. Would who believe according to the working of his mighty power which he wrought or worked in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, set him at his own right hand in heavenly places, far above all principality and power, and might and dominion. What's that mean? When Jesus was in hell, every principality, power, might and dominion opposed his raising. But it wasn't enough. Because resurrection power didn't just bring him out, it brought him out far past all those levels of devils that opposed his raising. They dogpiled to hold him there, and they were not enough. And he was raised far above. Resurrection power did not just raise him. Notice this, it said and seated him. Resurrection power doesn't just raise us. It seeded us and it positioned us far above all opposition. Amen. That's what belongs to us. And Paul is saying, I pray that you would recognize that you would know that it would dawn on your spirit all that belongs to you, number one. And when we say this, let's read these phrases because they kind of get hidden from people, how they understand it when it says that God would give unto you, number one, that you would know, rather in verse 18, what is the hope of his calling? What does that mean? What's the hope of his calling? Who you are in Christ. Amen. Number two, that you would know what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints. Well, what is that? That you may know all that belongs to you, the wealth that was purchased and made yours because you're in Christ. And then number three, that you would know the exceeding greatness of his power to us, Ward, who believe. So he's saying basically in a nutshell, that you would know who you are in Christ, that you would know what you have because you're in Christ. And number three, that you would know what you can do with that power. And it's not just miracle power. It's not just creative power that was at creation. It's not just miracle power that split the Red Sea. He did not compare it to those this power that's in our direction. He said, it's the power that raised Jesus. It's resurrection power. Amen. Resurrection power. And he's saying, I pray that you would know the exceeding greatness of that resurrection power that's in your direction. You have it. It's in you. Resurrection power is for dead things. Organs that are dead, cells that are dead, joints that are dead, tendons and ligaments and muscles that are dead and cells that are dead. And anything that's dead qualifies for resurrection power. And you have it. I said you have it. Why do people live as though they don't have it? Because this is what Paul said. They don't know. They don't know. And I pray that they would know what is exceeding greatness of his power. What's this mean? It's no close second any other power would display next to resurrection power. They are. There's nothing running neck and neck. There's been all kinds of depictions of what it was like down in hell with Jesus, of Jesus taking a blow and then him giving a blow. It was no close fight. It was not a neck and neck race. This is an exceeding great power. And this is the exact same power that God deposited in you to draw on every day if you choose. You don't have to wait for something to die before you use resurrection power. You can use resurrection power on living things, and. And it sustains it at a whole other level. Amen. It'll build health in you. And so he told me to tell the testimony that day in the minister's conference, and I'm going to tell it to you because he said to. And then we're going to do part two. Part two was going to be part one, but David and Reba and the Holy Ghost made it part two. Because if you will respond to the knowledge of what resurrection power will do, you'll walk out of here different than you walked in. God filled you with power so that you would have it at your disposal 24 hours a day and not have to wait for heaven to send you something. I received a phone call sometime back, and someone had a loved one that was really on their deathbed in the hospital, and they had progressed there quickly and suddenly to that point. And the family called me and they said, pastor Nancy, we prayed, but we just feel like we're not getting anywhere. And I said, well, let me just say this. Most of the church world, when they pray, they're going this direction and they're trying to get God to send something down from that direction to their direction. And I said, if you take that approach, that person's dying because you're trying to get God to send something, do something, send a rescue, a lifeline. And I said, you need to know something. Not just pray something, you need to know something. And I said, she's born again. You're born again. You're already wired with power, and it's resurrection power. And this person is close to death. They qualify for resurrection power. Now you better tap into that power and you better spend it, because God authorized you to be the custodian of resurrection power over your life. He is not the custodian. Custodian of the resurrection power over your life. You are. And if you don't, if you don't Spend it, he's got nothing, no other power that's greater to help you with. And so I said that person was in surgery at the time. They called me. They'd had multiple surgeries, emergency surgeries. I said, you go back into that hospital room and you start talking about what's in you. You start talking about what's in them, you start talking about what's in the room because there's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one. Pastors, when you go to visit your congregation members that may be in the hospital, that's what you go in talking. You don't go in praying for God to do something. You go in and you say, there's power in this room and that power is here to raise you up, not leave you like it found. You put a demand, put a demand on that power. And so I said, if you don't go in there and put a demand on that power, that person will die with power in the room. And for an hour I preached to them. Mean and ugly. Why strong? Because you can't go in there and you can't pray. Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep. You got to go in there knowing something because you're dealing with death and the devil knows what he's doing. And you better go in there knowing something. And I said, there's power in you. There's power in them, there's power in the room. And if you don't flip the switch to cause that power to flow, it will not perform what God intended for it to perform. And, and you will not see them again on earth. And it won't be God's fault. God wired you with power so that anytime you need it, you don't have to ask heaven's permission. Amen. When people give me something, they give me a gift. I never once they give it to me, once they put it in my hands, I do not have to call them and say, can I wear it? Can I use it? They entrusted it to me to use, to wear, to spend anytime I need it. That's what resurrection power has been sent to your life to do. You're authorized. You're the custodian of it. It's up to you to spend it, use it. And if you don't, it will lie in the drawer of your spirit, totally unaccessed and totally unused when it could have changed everything. Ignorance will keep us empty handed. Thank God for services and you coming to church and you Coming to services and sitting under your pastor to run out ignorance because ignorance will keep you unusing everything that God gave you to use. So they said, do you have any sermons on that? I said, I happen to, yeah. And they said, we're doing it. And I said, you better get you some grit. You better go in there and face death with knowing something. And they did. And it changed everything. It changed everything. They heard it one time and they got. Doesn't take resurrection power days and weeks and years. It just takes somebody to flip the switch who knows what's available to them. Amen. You are wired. I don't care if you just got born again this morning, you are wired with resurrection power, but it's waiting for you to spend it. And so many people are praying for God to do something when. Well, I don't know what more he could do for us in the sense of making that, making us carriers of resurrection power. What activates it? Paul tells us the exceeding greatness of his power to us. Would who believe? You got to believe it. And if you believe it, you say it. And until you say it, you're not believing it. Right? Amen. So I was talking, I was listening to one of my friends that was down in Puerto Rico and they were talking to a woman who gave them the testimony. And there was this 21 year old mama who already had five children. It's like you're a hero. And she was driving down the road one day and she was hit and it was a devastating collision and she went through the windshield and in doing that, it cut off part of her skull and her, the frontal lobe of her brain came out and it's laying on the pavement just like she is. The medics got there, the emergency team, they went over to her first saw, she's dead, her head's mutilated and all they did was scoop up the remnants and just laid it by her head. And they went over and they began administering medical aid to the children because all the children were still alive. So they sent the children to the hospital and they sent the mother to the morgue and they found out her, you know, different family members, they ended up calling her mother, this girl's mother, the 21 year old. And she lived 12 hours away. But she was a Christian that evidently knew a little something. Not a minister, not a preacher, a believer. And they contacted her and they said, they told her the condition of her daughter and said, you know, it was catastrophic. And her answer to them was this all, all she needs is a little bit of resurrection power. Listen, panic is nothing but fear. If you have panic in your voice, you know what flow you just stepped into. I mean, Jesus was asleep in the boat. The disciples were in the boat. The storm comes up. These are fishermen in that boat. Not all of them, but several of them are fishermen. They know what to do in a storm, in a boat. They're raised on those waters. They're doing everything they know, and they're still sinking. And so Peter changed what he believed, and he went and woke up Jesus and said, carest thou not that we perish? Like now? He's mad at him because he's not behaving as panicked as they are. People that are in the flesh and panicked, they don't understand when you don't join them. And Mama didn't panic how you respond. First matters, and first words really matter. And she said, all she needs is a little bit of resurrection power. Well, she's already set her sails of which way, this route she's going to take. So she's got 12 hours to drive. And can you imagine how the devil had 12 hours to talk to her? But you have to be occupied with something else. You have to put your attention on something else. So she's driving those 12 hours and she's praying in tongues, and she's striking that resurrection power with her words of faith. The resurrection power of God's in my daughter. It's in that morgue. It's working in her right now. You say, well, that's really ridiculous. Well, when you know something, it becomes very normal to you. So she's driving the whole time, speaking about releasing her faith in the power of God and praying in tongues. And there's a younger kid there working in the morgue, and he's in a room filling out paperwork, and he hears some rattling. And he looks behind him and the body bag is moving. And he thought, well, that's just a muscular reaction, you know. So he keeps working. And a few minutes later, the body bag moves again. And he keeps working. It's just muscles, you know. And after this continued, he went over to unzip the body bag. And she looked up at him, open eyes, and his response was, oh, no, no, you can't be alive. You understand? Her head is mutilated. Her brains, part of her brains are laying next to her head in the body bag. And he said, you can't be alive. And this is why he said. He said that your body is in such a mess. But now she's looking at him, so he has to Transfer her from the morgue to the hospital. So when the mother arrives, she arrives at the morgue and they said she's not here. And so she drove on over to the hospital. And when she went into the hospital room, she didn't just sit in the chair, she crawled up on the bed and stood over her daughter straddling her and said, resurrection power is in you. Resurrection power is moving in you. It's raising you up, it's making you whole. That's faith. You talk to things, you talk to things you know. It'll work over dead finances, it'll work over dead businesses, it'll work over dead marriages, it'll work over dead relationships, it'll work over wayward children. And that mama stayed there in that hospital room and within a week she was released. She had been comatose there in the hospital. And after a week they released her because she came out of the coma. But when she came out of the coma, she had the mentality of a seven year old. So the mother took her home along with the five children and the mother, every day, resurrection power is working in you. The resurrection power of God raising you up makes you whole. And kept talking it to her. And when she first brought her home, she was sitting in the floor playing with her children like a seven year old. But within a month or two, she's up and completely normal, resumed living. Because resurrection power was talked about, resurrection power was honored. What you honor honors you. The only part of the word that will work for you is the part you honor. How do you honor it? You believe it, you say it. People that don't believe in prosperity, we want them to, because without believing it, they're going to struggle. But if you don't honor prosperity, don't bother about it. It won't work for you because you have to honor it for it to work for you. You see? And so this mother honored resurrection power and resurrection power honored her. This daughter went on and resumed living and had another child after that that ended up becoming a pastor. When she was in her 50s, she wanted to start a new line of work. And in starting that new line of work, they said, you have to have a physical exam. And she had not been to the doctor since she had been released from the hospital as a 21 year old. And here she is now in her 50s. And so they ran all the tests and they took X rays and did whatever they needed to do to fulfill the examination requirements. And she's sitting in the doctor's office and the doctor comes in carrying her folder. And he pulls up a chair and sits in front of her and says, you can't be alive. She said, well, I am. No. He said, no, no, no, you don't understand. You can't be alive. She goes, why can't I? He said, you have no frontal lobe. It's empty. The front of the skull has no frontal lobe. Resurrection power did not create a frontal lobe. Resurrection power became the frontal lobe. Could it have created it? Sure. But God has many ways that the resurrection power became the organ and functioned as a frontal lobe. She's living on resurrection power every day. Does it matter then that you don't backslide? Because resurrection power is not for living apart from God. The woman who told the story to my preacher friend in Puerto RICO There was 84 years old. And she was the one telling her the story. It was her that it happened to firsthand. That's what's in you. That's what you're wired with. Now you know why we don't have to say God, God, send something down. Oh, God, do something. Oh, God, you're in you. He's in you. You're in him. So that the two of you move together, work together, together as one, and had the fruit of in him. It wasn't a preacher that her mama was. It was just somebody who believed. Ephesians 1, verse 19. Exceeding greatness of his power to usward who believe. So God said to me there in Europe, he said, you go tell that story this morning. And so I did. And this pastor's wife from Germany, she could only sit for a few moments because it was so painful for her to sit any length of time. So she said to me, she said, I apologize, I must move around because I can't sit in any one position too long. And so she would. She'd start out on the front row, then she'd go back to the back and she'd walk around. And it certainly wasn't a distraction at all. But that day, me and her, I'm after you. God's after you, powers after you. And so I called anybody in here that has pain right now, and she was the first one that came up. And we laid hands on her. And right there we watched her bend side to side, touch her toes, do things that she had never done. She threw her cane down and she went and climbed that Swiss Alps that day. And she went for the rest of the trip without it and totally set free. Because resurrection power was already there all along. We didn't say, oh, God, oh, God, do Something. Oh, God. If you don't, she's going to suffer. No, you just have to tell people what's in them, and they just have to believe it, and they have to say it. And they have to say it more than once, because that deteriorated condition had been talking to her every day. And it only took one time of her talking resurrection power, believing resurrection power. And it turned everything around. What is in your life that you've been trying to get God to fix you fix it with what's in you. I love something Brother Copeland says. He says stuff. I go, my gosh, how do you get that deep? But he said something when he was quoting Adam. Acts chapter 16. When Paul and Silas had been beaten and thrown in prison, and they prayed and sang praises. And what happened? An earthquake came. And he said, you know, my brain just never went there. He said, where'd the earthquake come from? Well, I just. I'm from California. I know where they come from. But to him, he said, where'd the earthquake come from? He said, it came out of them. It came out of them. Power came out of them, and it was so great, it quaked the earth, and it broke open everyone's gates, not just theirs. Everyone. Everyone. The power in you is not just for you. It's for everyone. And it's always been impressive to me because I would have behaved a little different than Paul and Sister Silas. First of all, the jailkeeper thought they had escaped. So he goes to turn the sword on himself. And they said, no, stop. We're here. And I would have said, no, go ahead. You're in big trouble. But another thing, when the jail doors opened, they stayed there. They didn't pick up. Brother, I got my junk. We going. We are going. Why did they not get up and run? They already exited. The doors were just a minor detail. They had already exited through their praise. Yeah. So what's resurrection power? Waiting for your words. You believe in it. That's what Paul said. The exceeding greatness of his power is not to everyone. It's to those who believe. That's you. You believe. I believe. I believe in resurrection power, don't you? Hallelujah. How come it works? Christ in me and me in him, and he's still living by that resurrection power that raised him and seated him. That resurrection power is not separate from him. It's still in him. It's still working in him. And he's in me. Resurrection power is in me because he's in me. Hallelujah. Stand with me if you would. To your feet. Can you think of something that needs that power in your life? Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you. Say it with me. I believe in resurrection power. It's in me. It's for dead things. I'm the custodian of that power. It will flow whenever I give it power. Permission. I don't have to wait for heaven to give it permission. I give it permission with my words of faith that enables that power to begin to work. I believe in the power of God. I said I believe the power of God. Hallelujah. If you'd do me a favor, go ahead and turn the lights back up. That's where I want to see that. I want to see the peoples. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. If you're. Now, this is only. This is only the first part. I have a second part because last night when I went into my. My room, God spoke to me about something. So I don't. We're not ending it up. Can. Are y' all going to turn the lights on for me? Okay. Thank you, Jessica. Hallelujah. As Morgan said earlier in the service that Thursday night, tomorrow night, we'll lay hands on everyone who needs healing. But if you're here tonight and you say, pastor Nancy, this is the last night I can be here, then we want to go ahead and minister to you. So if you would come up, if that's you. Hallelujah. I need. I'm going to need that top paper there. I'm not done with that one. Just keep it with you for a moment, but don't put it away yet. Anybody in here that you say, I want hands now laid on me for healing. I can't be here tomorrow night, but I want hands laid on me. Come up here and we'll minister to you. Hallelujah. Congregation, would you reach your hands out toward these? Release your faith with us. What is it, love, that we can minister to? Scoliosis. Yeah. Father, we thank you for the power. There it goes in. There it goes in. We thank you, Father, for that power. Making whole making right. Completely straight. We thank you, Father. No pain. Pain free. We thank you for it, Father. Thank you for it, Father. Hallelujah. What about you do something you couldn't do before, Something that would have been a difficulty. What about you, love? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Amen. Hallelujah, Father, we thank you, Jesus. You said, my peace I leave with you. She has it. She has what? You left it. Left. Left her. So I say that mind be at peace. In Jesus name you be free in your mind. In Jesus name. Hallelujah. And can I tell you this? You can't check your mind to see if your mind is free. Many people, people, they resist the devil. Then they turn around and say, did it work? You check the word. So this is what I want you to do. When troubling thoughts try to come, you say, that's not my thought. I'm not taking that thought. That's not my thought. If it doesn't lead you to peace and joy, you tell it. No, okay. And then you immediately start saying, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord, the Lord. Why do you want to immediately turn and praise the Lord? Because your attention is going to go somewhere. And by you praising, you're putting your attention on the word. You're putting your attention on him. Amen. Will you do that for me? Hallelujah. God bless you. What about you, love kidneys? What's the matter with them, Huh? No, we're not taking, taking that, are we? Hallelujah. Father, we thank you. We thank you for whole. Ah, there goes that anointing in your life, whole in Jesus name. We thank you, Father, we thank you Father, we glorify you. We glorify you. We thank you. What about you, love? What is it you need? Okay, and you have what, a follow up, huh? Yeah, anything for this one? Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Father, we thank you. I speak to that abnormality. You behold every cell, every tissue. Behold, in Jesus name. We thank you for it, Father, we thank you for it, Father, in Jesus name. What about you, love? Yeah. Tending to him. Yes, yes. Father, we thank you. There goes, there it goes in you. There goes that anonym. Be whole in Jesus name. We thank you for it. Father, what about you, love? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the word says he gives his beloved sleep and we take it so Father, I thank you. I thank you for setting that right. In Jesus name. What about you, love? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Father, we, we speak to that to dry up that infection. You dry up in Jesus name. And behold, from the top of your your head to the soles of your feet. We thank you for it. Father, we praise you for it. We thank you for it. Father, we glorify you. We glorify you. We thank you Father, we thank you for it. Praise the Lord. Let's just raise up our hands and thank him. Father, we thank you for that healing power. We thank you for healing power. So we leave this place and I'm talking especially those that I lay hands on saying thank God I'm whole. Thank God I'm whole. Thank God I'm whole. Thank God I'm whole. Thank God I'm whole. Can I tell you this? We don't check our body to see if we're healed because healing doesn't flow from the body. The body is the recipient of healing. It's not the source of it. You check the source. The word is the source. What's the word? Say amen. Therefore, we're authorized. We're authorized to say we're whole. Amen. Last night I went to the hotel room and I was reminded of something that I had. What is this? Not been drawing on. And I was going through a. One particular test. This would have been probably around 2007, 2008. And I got up in the middle of the night. My husband was home. He wasn't always home, but I remember he was home. And I'd gotten up in the middle of the night and walked into the other room for a moment. And when I did, God spoke to me. And those of you who know, knew my husband, he stood in the office of the prophet, and he was the genuine article. You can be seated if you like. He was the genuine article. And he had many experiences that really he never even talked about. And I would only find out about him because I would say something and then he would open up about it. For example, I said to him, you know, we hadn't been married that long, and a lot of this was new to me. And I said to him one night, I said, when I. The last several nights, I said, when I. We're in the. We're in bed and I go to rollover, I said, it seems like I'm catching a glimpse of someone standing there, but when I look back, there's no one there. And I said, but this keeps happening. And I said, I'm wondering if there's an angel standing there. And Ed said, oh, yeah, he's been there for three weeks. I thought I was really making progress, that I even brought that up. But that's what I mean. He wouldn't refer to it until something was said that kind of prodded him in that direction. And one of the things that God said to him, he said something to the effect that he would have a minister, a ministry similar to William Branham. I don't remember what he said that was in connection with that. I don't remember all the details. Do you remember hearing him say that, Pastor Debbie? Do you remember him elaborating further on what that would mean? I would say this, that my Husband saw more angels than anybody I'd ever heard of. But there again, he didn't. There were so few he told us about, but I knew there was so much he didn't tell us about. William Branham saw angels of lot, but it was really one angel he kept seeing. But Ed saw multiples a lot. That was just part of the mantle. Do you remember anything more in connection with that? But God, I got up that night, in the middle of the night during this, and there had been a bit of a season of a test, and God said to me, he said, by virtue of your association with your husband, you too will have a minister similar to William Branham. But it'll be the aspect of the word of knowledge, because William Brannan could stand in front of you and he just read your mail. I stepped into that a little bit years ago and it was a little overwhelming, but God said to me, you're going to have to. You're going to have to agreed to move back into that. So we're going to do that. I said, we're going to do that. And it's important that spiritual things are moved with because we need. We. We need to see these flows in the body of Christ. The body of Christ needs them. The word of knowledge is so, so important. In fact, hand me that back again if you would, because I want to. I just want to refer real quickly. I won't keep you too terribly long, but I'm going to do some ministering in a moment. If you ever go through Jesus's ministry and you mark the different times, you see the gifts of the Spirit in operation, and he had the word of knowledge. He knew Zacchaeus come down from that tree. He knew his name without being introduced. Yeah, word of knowledge. Word of knowledge is a snippet of knowledge about something present or past. Word of wisdom is a word about the future. But the word of knowledge is about something current or past. And Jesus operated that way. But there's the abuse of these things. Many times when people get into certain things, and then if they're not careful, the devil will try to mimic this flow very closely. And it's also said about some of these other ministers that one night they'd be operating under the Holy Ghost, and next night they'd be operating under a familiar spirit and they couldn't tell the difference. And dad Hagin was very careful about that because dad Hagin said this. He said when people were getting my heating on, he said 90% of them, I could tell you what was wrong with Them and how they got that way, 90%. Now, that's a whole lot of the word of knowledge. But he didn't ever put that on display because he said, then people will start getting impressed with you just because you know it is not an instruction to tell it. Now, I talked to God about that and he opened that up to me because I said, I'm not sure how to handle these things. And he said, if it's a gift of the Spirit, you can minister it publicly. But if it's just something you have knowledge of because you're in a certain room with the Spirit, you're not authorized rise to tell it publicly. He said, you can get in, you can come into certain places and rooms of the Spirit and you'll know things because it's in the room. But that's not God telling you to tell it. So just because you know it, you don't tell it. It has to be a gift of the Spirit in operation, in a service. Or the Spirit of God tells you to say something. Otherwise, just because you know it, you're not authorized to tell it. Because you'll know things just by being in certain rooms of the Spirit. You can pray. And this is where a lot of prayers people who pray get off because they see and know certain things. They don't know it because God wants them to tell it. God's not even revealing it to them. The room they got in revealed it to them. Does that make sense to you? I mean, you could walk back here, there's other offices and rooms beyond these doors. And if you went back there, you could walk in there and you could tell. You could. You could get on a microphone and tell us out here what's in that room. But nobody's authorized you to do that. Just because you saw it, you're not authorized to tell that. Right. And it's the same thing. People think just because they know something, that's God telling them. No, the room showed it, God didn't tell it. Because I said, God, we need to be accurate in these things. Because God's raising up strong local churches that move with the word and the Spirit. And we've got to have keenness in this. And he said, you were picking up things because you were in a certain room. And he said, and because you were picking up certain things, he said, then you sense the enemy, put pressure on you to tell it. And you recognize, yeah, that's not right. There's something kind of pushing, trying to get me to. If I could say that, say things about What I knew and pushing. See, the devil wants to get involved on something to get you inaccurate so that you're telling what you shouldn't be telling. And then he'll tell you, well, if you, If God didn't want you to tell it, he wouldn't have told you. Well, God didn't tell it. The room showed it. Does that make sense to you? So just because you know something is not God telling you to say something. I'm talking especially to ministers right now. Amen. And so dad Hagin said, you know, there would be ministries that would. If I could say this, this would earmark their ministry. They'd tell. They'd stand in front of you and tell you what's in your pocket and all that. Brother Hagin said, there's no purpose for that. Tell them their name, tell them their address, he said, I. I could tell you people's names and addresses, he said, but it's not because God wanted me to tell it. Then when God explained it to me, I said, I see it. I see it. He was just in the room of the Spirit, and he saw that room, showed him that kind of detail. I don't know if this makes sense to you because we're on the second part of the service now. So dad Hagin was so accurate with that, because dad Hagen talked to us about a spirit of false prophecy, and he tries to mimic the Holy Spirit, and that's how he ruins. The devil will ruin ministries if they don't distinguish the difference. So, pastors, you can know things even in prayer, but that's not God telling you to go deal with something or say something, because you can get into a place of the Spirit in that room. You see it in that place, but that's not God showing. That's the room showing. Does that make sense to you? Okay, so that's how you know if it's the. If it's a gift of the Spirit comes into manifestation, then you'll know you're supposed to say something. And if you're not sure, don't you always say it later? Amen. Praise the Lord. But he told me, he said, you're going to have to step back into that room in that place, that further place of the word of knowledge. Because I. I would get into some of those details, but then the devil would try to trouble me in that room, so to speak. So I just backed out altogether because I didn't have the understanding I needed. And God told me to back out. Because sometimes you have to know enough word to handle these things. Amen. We trust you've enjoyed this message. 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