Episode Overview

Title: Faith In The Power Of God, Part Two
Host/Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast – Jesus the Healer Broadcast
Date: January 16, 2020

Main Theme:
Pastor Nancy Dufresne explores the scriptural foundation for placing faith not in human wisdom but in the power of God, emphasizing the perpetual, present, and available power of God through the Holy Spirit. She discusses the necessity of skillfully activating this power through faith, shares testimonies, and addresses common misconceptions about how God's power operates in everyday life.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Faith Rooted in God's Power, Not Human Wisdom

• Nancy opens with 1 Corinthians 2:4-5, highlighting Paul's focus:

  "My speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power."
  (00:24)

• She warns against the allure of human wisdom, which can give a false sense of spiritual attainment:

  "Man's wisdom can entice people into thinking they have something they don't have."
  (00:35)

• Core Message:

  "The God kind of faith believes in the power of God. Everything is easy for God. ... Don't accuse God of human limits."
  (01:10)

2. The Ubiquity and Accessibility of God’s Power Through the Holy Spirit

• Nancy recounts a revelation given to Kenneth E. Hagin by Jesus:

  "When I was on the earth, I was the power of God... But now that the Holy Ghost has been sent... the power of God [is] present everywhere."
  (02:15)

• She insists that Christians often lack skill, not access, to this power:

  "The power of God is present everywhere. But the best is it dwells in us."
  (04:10)

• Challenge to believers:

  "When people pray 'God send the power', they show lack of skill."
  (04:33)

3. Notable Testimonies & Illustrations

Smith Wigglesworth on the Spirit of Faith

• Smith described facing hopeless situations:

  "Once I have sent all my faith, then another faith comes and meets my faith called the Spirit of Faith—the gift of faith."
  (05:40)

Kenneth Copeland’s Testimony from Lima, Peru

• A woman in a hospital experienced healing during Copeland's revival, though she didn't know the meeting was happening:

  "[She] started saying, 'I'm just, I'm on fire... my whole body feels like it’s burning.' The cancer disappeared... She walked in on the altar call and got saved."
  (14:35)

• Nancy references Maria Woodworth Etter’s book, where:

  "In a 50-mile radius, people were falling out under the power of God in their homes... because somebody knew the power... made it available, and it went out in a radius."
  (15:45)

4. Activating, Manifesting, and Skillfully Using God's Power

• Power must be activated by faith, not just present:

  "Just because it's present doesn't mean it's active, doesn't mean it's in manifestation."
  (18:06)

• Analogy using electricity and Benjamin Franklin:

  "Electrical power has always been present... but because no one was digging around, asking, taking initiative... [Franklin] got a real charge. He could initiate power."
  (19:25)

• Faith is required to "strike" the power of God into manifestation:

  "Words of faith are the stick that strikes the power of God. ... Words of faith, 'I believe in the power of God,' that's what brings that power into manifestation."
  (23:12)

• Demonstration, not accumulation, is what matters:

  "It's almost criminal for [God's power] to be present and people not receiving."
  (24:10)

5. Consecration and Price of Skillful Power

• Nancy reflects on Norvel Hayes' conversation with Kenneth Hagin:

  "Brother Norvel said to Dad Hagin, 'Is it the will of God to heal that man?' And Brother Hagin said, 'Yes, if someone will pay the price.'"
  (26:10)

• She clarifies:

  "Skill and power calls for consecration. ... Whatever price that's paid to become skillful... is a bargain at any price because of what is available to power."
  (27:25)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Nancy Dufresne:

  "Your need is easy for the power of God. ... It's easy. That's the right version of faith toward the power of God."
  (01:22)

  "The Holy Ghost... now has a body called the body of Christ. ... It's everywhere."
  (03:55)

  "Power’s present in your car right now. Power’s present in your kitchen..."
  (09:45)

  "Think of the power of God. Think of it targeting... a disease, targeting a symptom, targeting a pain. And it's not destroying anything else except that which is unlike God. It's impressive."
  (12:45)

• Smith Wigglesworth (via Nancy):

  "Once I have sent all my faith, then another faith... called the gift of faith comes and meets and joins."
  (05:48)

• Kenneth Copeland (via Nancy):

  "No telling how many people were healed that we never heard about, that got up out of that hospital..."
  (15:15)

• Jesus to Kenneth Hagin (via Nancy):

  "There’s enough power in every sick room and every hospital room to raise up that sick one."
  (13:55)

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | | --------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | | 00:24 | Introduction of 1 Corinthians 2:4–5, shifting faith to God's power | | 01:10 | On God's unlimited ability and “easy” strength | | 02:15 | Jesus’ words to Kenneth Hagin about the Holy Ghost’s ubiquity | | 03:55 | The Holy Ghost vs. Jesus’ earthly limitations | | 04:33 | On error of praying God “send the power” | | 05:40 | Smith Wigglesworth on the spirit of faith | | 09:45 | Power’s presence in everyday locations | | 12:45 | How God’s power targets without collateral damage | | 13:55 | Jesus’ revelation about every sick room’s healing potential | | 14:35 | Kenneth Copeland’s Lima healing testimony | | 15:45 | Maria Woodworth Etter radius testimony | | 18:06 | Power requires activation, not just presence | | 19:25 | Benjamin Franklin’s kite as power analogy | | 23:12 | Words of faith as means to manifest God’s power | | 24:10 | Responsibility to become skillful for the sake of others | | 26:10 | Norvel Hayes & Kenneth Hagin: paying the price for skill | | 27:25 | Consecration and “price” for skillful use of power |

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s teaching centers on the truth that God’s power is abundantly present and available, not restricted to location or feeling, but needing activation and skillful use by believers. She emphasizes a movement from passive waiting for God to act, to active engagement and faith in the power already given through the Holy Spirit. Through powerful testimonies and analogies, she urges listeners to grow in their skill and consecration, so that God’s power is increasingly made manifest not only in their own lives, but in the lives of those around them.