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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Hallelujah. We magnify you. Let's just take a moment and let's just sing in the spirit together. Just lift up your voice and sing in the spirit.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Jesus, before you left, in your prayer to the Father and praying for us, you said, father, I have given them words. The words you gave me, I have given them. Of all the things you wanted us to know that the Father gave you, it was words. Because words govern all in God's kingdom. Words govern all of this earth. Words govern our lives. So we thank you for giving us the righteousness, right words to say. So many multitudes go through this life not knowing the right words. But thank you that you're helping us to know those words, to make those words our own. Because your power meets your words. Your words are filled with your power. Your words are the home of your power. And we take those words into hearts and we say, we won't just be good note takers of the words, but doers of the words we take note of. So we thank you for words. Father, we look to you tonight for words that bring heaven to earth so that this place we. Your plan is that we live days of heaven on this earth, that our lives be no different than the flow that heaven is experiencing. And it's words that help us to move in that and live in that. And we take it. And we. We thank you for not leaving us like you found us. We come up. We come up in our thinking. We come up in our doing. We come up in our speaking. We come up in our. In our acting on the word. And we thank you for words tonight. Your power lives in them. And we thank you for that. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. You can be seated, if you would. You know, we know we're growing up when we hear words and say, that's my answer. There was nothing more pleasing to me in 25 years of pastoring than for congregation members who had set up an appointment to meet with me. And after the service, they would come and say, I'm canceling that appointment because I heard my answer in the service, that they still didn't just want the personal attention. The words were. They recognized the words were all the personal attention that they needed. Amen. So we know we're growing when we hear words and go, that's what I needed right there. Not the recognition or someone giving me personal attention. That I need words. Give me God's words. Give me all the right attention. Wrong words, give us the attention, but the wrong kind of attention. And so we're renewing our minds to right words. Amen. You know, it's always impressed me with this centurion soldier. He had within his household. You know the story of it. He had within his household a servant that was on the verge of death. And the centurion sent Jewish leaders on his behalf to approach Jesus and say, tell him the need of this servant in the centurion's household that was sick. And Jesus said, I'll go and heal him. Now think of that Jesus saying, I'm going to come personally to his house. But before he arrived, the centurion said, tell him he doesn't even need to come. So Jesus, he just said, speak the word only. So basically, the centurion chose words over the presence of Jesus and he left the choice. Jesus left the choice up to the centurion soldier. Amen. He let him choose. How will this be ministered? Through my presence or through my word. Now you have to wonder if the servant would have heard that option, say, no, let him come. Let him come. He's the one on the verge of death. But the centurion didn't make a choice based on the urgency of the moment, but based on what he believed about the One, the words of the One he was appealing to. And we have to wonder if Jesus, if we were in the same situation, faced with a life and death situation, would we have the faith enough to say, if Jesus said, I'm going to show up at your house at 6 o' clock tonight and I'm going to deal with that, Would we have faith enough to say, you don't need to, I've got your word. Would we have faith enough? But that's impressive, right? Yeah, that's what we're offered. Because he lives in his Word. He is the Word made flesh. His power lives in his Word. So don't just. If I could say this, draw on something spectacular. When words are given us basically every time we come together and every time you pick up the Bible to read it, God is giving words that will change everything. So don't just look for the spectacular. When the words conduct all the answers you ever need. Value the words. Value the words. Amen. Your answer tonight is gonna be heard in words. Now it's our skill to recognize. Wait a minute, I heard that. I heard that, I heard that. You know, even a kid can learn if mama says, honey, by the time your daddy and I get back tonight, I need you have the room clean, have your room clean. But if Mama says, honey, by the time I get back tonight, have the room clean. Same words, but one carries a little bit more emphasis with it, Right? And it's to that child's benefit. Even a child can recognize, oh, there was something different in those words. Recognize. There's something for you in words tonight. Recognize. Amen. And don't. Just don't. We don't want to just say, I'm waiting for the ministry line. Thank God for the ministry. Thank God. But they came to hear and be healed. Luke, chapter five. The multitudes came to hear and be healed. It does not say they came to be healed. It says they came to hear and be healed. Their healing was attached to their hearing. Their healing lived in their hearing of right words. And we know we're growing up when we say, I heard it, and that's enough. That's enough. Now I know what to believe. Now I know how to respond. Now I know what to attach my faith to. Because I heard words. I can't go home with you, but words can. Your pastor can't go home with you, but words go home with you. Value words. Jesus said, I love this statement. Because with that centurion soldier, Jesus made this statement. He said, I have not found so great a faith, no, not in Israel. Now when he said that, you have to recognize who was there. And it was the religious leaders that the centurion soldier had sent. Because remember, they came to Jesus and said, this man, he loves us. He has built us a synagogue. The centurion took his own money, built a synagogue. And the leaders of the synagogue are the ones coming to Jesus on the centurion soldiers behalf. And then Jesus said, while those religious leaders are there and his own disciples, and anyone who would be gathering there that day to follow him, he said, I have not found so great a faith. No, not in Israel. All the religious leaders are there. What did he call great faith? The Word's enough for you. The Word's enough for you. The Word is enough for you. For you. The Word is enough for you. He calls that great faith. The Word's enough for me. That we value the Word. We don't just value seeing something, feeling something. And I love feeling something. I love seeing something. But all that we see and feel must come from the Word or it's not to be accepted anyway. Amen. Praise the Lord. His words, his words. Your answer tonight is in His Word. And we recognize his words. Carry my help. When Ed went home to be with the Lord, I remember Morgan Henley or Pastor Debbie. In my purse is my iPad. It's just hanging loose there. You know, when God speaks to you, that's. Yeah, just this one. Thank you. When. When God speaks to you, it freezes that moment, doesn't it? You remember everything about the setting of that moment. Right. And I remember where I was. I was standing in the entry area by a. By a table there in my home. And out of my spirit came the scripture found in Hebrews 13. I will boldly say of the Lord, he is my helper. And I was just walking through the house, and those words just came up out of my spirit. And I spoke it out loud before I even processed it. And when that happens, then God said to me, he said, do you know how I help you? Now learn this. When God asks you a question, it's not because he doesn't know the answer. It's because you don't know. So don't think you know the answer. He's not asking for a faith confession at that moment. When he said, do you know how I help you? Now, I thought, and I think in a measure, I know how he helps me. But evidently he's wanting me to ask so that he has permission to answer. And I did not say, yeah, I know how you help me. You help me with your word. Thank you. No, that's inappropriate response. Right. So when he said, do you know how I help you? I said, tell me, how do you help me? And he said, I help you when you put my word in your mouth to the measure. You put my word in your mouth. And he said, just because you're a widow, I do not change the way I help you. Because we think because we're going through a crisis or tragedy that we deserve a little bit of special attention. But the word is the special attention. In other words, now that you're a widow, I'm still not bypassing the way I've always helped you. I help you to the measure that my word is in your mouth. Amen. He was not going to bypass his highest help just because I was a widow and start moving and working on my behalf apart from his word. That's what he's saying. I can't help you apart from my word. So he just reinforced and emphasized, a widow needs help. I mean, we had millions that we were responsible for. All that's paid off, in case you didn't know, all that's paid off, and we just received what the Falcon 50 airplane, right? Stephen called me today and he said, mom, you know, just to paint new tail numbers. You know the cost of that. And I said, stephen, we know this. It's not vehicle. It's not car cost. This is airplane cost now. And I said, I don't care about. We just reinforce it with each other. We don't care about cost because God did not give us the supply of that airplane without the supply of the cost. It's a done deal. It's a package deal. It's a package deal. It's a package deal. That airplane came loaded with supply. Came loaded with supply. Everything it costs for everything God has authored for you comes loaded with the supply. The business he told you, talked to you about, it comes loaded with supply. Everything your family, your home needs, it comes loaded with supply. When God gave you a new home, he gave you the supply to furnish it, to support it every month. Everything, everything from the hand of God comes loaded with supply to support that. Do you know how our homes get out of order? I'm just talking about physically. I'm not talking about your marriage issues. I'm talking about physically. You know, how things get out of order. We buy something, but we don't buy the item or something to keep it organized. So we buy something and then stuff just piles up. And then we go overwhelmed. We go, how did we get here? Right? You open up your closet and you got all this stuff, but you don't have the stuff to keep it orderly. What is it? God doesn't give us anything without the supply to keep the order of it. The home has the order of all the furniture. Anything monthly, the utilities, it does not matter. It does not matter what happens to the economy because it already came with the supply. Anything God has for you, it's already fully supplied. Now, just with my faith, I draw it into this moment, into the now of this day. Amen. Praise the Lord. Thank God. His words are enough. I said his words are enough. His words are enough. His words are enough for our situation. Hallelujah. Thank God. Thank God. Everything in redemption that is ours, God planned that every need you'll ever face, the supply is already planned. It's already planned. It says in Hebrews, chapter 4, verse 3, the Amplified. The amplified classic translation. The last phrase says, his works were completed, prepared and waiting for all who would believe from the foundation of the world. I don't know. Are y' all putting up scriptures on here? I don't know. Do we? Aren't. Okay, well, I'll just keep saying It Okay. Although his works were completed, prepared, and waiting for all who would believe from the foundation of the world. So before the time clock started ticking on this earth, everything your life needed, God already prepared it, he completed it, and it's waiting. What's it waiting on? For your faith to show up. For your faith to show up and lay claim to it. For your faith to show up and lay claim. Claim to it. There's some property that God has spoken to us about with our ministry. It's how many acres? 42 acres right on the lake. 42 acres right on the lake. Completely undeveloped land. There's a historical building on it. And God talked to me about. He said, do you want to that? And I said, you know, I do. And he said, faith can have it. That's what he said. Faith can have it. He didn't say money can have it. He said, faith can have it. He said, faith can have it. He didn't say money could have it. He said, faith can have it. Why God gave me sister Amy Simp McPherson's vacation home. There are Hollywood actors that you would know of that tried to get that home and couldn't have it. Yet. They had the money for it. They didn't have the favor for it. They didn't have the favor for it. There are multiples that had many that tried to buy it, but God was holding them it. God was holding it for me. For me. Remind me to come back to that, because I want to tell something Pastor Ruby said to me this week that helped me with that. But when I called, I was talking to Brother Copeland about this 42 acres. And he said, because there was a building, it hasn't been occupied since the 70s there. And that thing has changed hands. It's such valuable real estate. 42 acres, all lakefront, undeveloped, right in the middle of town. And Brother Copeland said, nancy, because people. It has changed hands many times. And he. And they tried to do something with it. Nothing ever happened. Nothing ever happens. These. These developers, nothing ever happens. And Brother Copeland said, nancy, that land's waiting for your arrival. Can I tell you what God has authored for you is waiting for your faith's arrival. It's waiting for your arrival. Hallelujah. So. I was over in St. Petersburg, Russia. This would have been about 2017. I had bought the castle. And I said to God before I bought it, because I owed several, you know, with the ministry and personal. We owed some money. When Ed went home to be with the Lord and God started talking to me about buying another home and I had a lovely home. And he told me the day we moved into that home, he said, I have another home for you. I didn't tell Ed that on move in day, you know, when men are carrying furniture, that's not the day to say, ladies, can I tell you something? Part of wisdom is timing. Timing matters when you say something. So God said to me, he said, I have another home for you. I just tucked that away, didn't mention it, but. No, don't even mention that, Nancy. Don't even bring that up. And it was a good thing I didn't, because at the two and a half year mark, Ed went home to be with the Lord, and that did not apply to him. And then I didn't have to, you know, make him feel good about that statement. So about two weeks after Ed went home to be with the Lord, the Spirit of God said to me, said, you remember I told you there's another home? I said, yes. I'm trying to forget that. Why? Because my plate was so full. I found this out. God does not move for you when it's opportune for you, because he moves when you know you could not accomplish this, you know, in the midst of, this is not the time I could accomplish. And he delights at assigning something new when it is impossible for you to do it. Because even, you know, this was God. And I said to God, I said, God, I have a portion of money, and my flesh likes having that in the account. It's a cushion for my head. Anybody know what I'm talking about? It's not wrong to have savings. Not wrong. And so when he started talking to me about buying that home, I said, you have to understand, I wasn't just buying a home. I was buying a renovation. And the purchase of the home is the cheapest part of that whole thing because this home is over 100 years old. It's right at 100 years old right now. And so I said to God, is it wisdom? Isn't that smart of me to ask wisdom if his wisdom was wisdom helping him? Just help him. Just want him to know I'm available to help. I'm available in so many aspects and ways. And I said to him, is it wisdom that I owe right now millions? Not all personal ministry, but there's just a lot on my plate. And it's going to take faith for all of it. It doesn't matter whether it's a personal need or a ministering need. It's going to call for my faith, for personal and ministry. Ministry and you only listen. You have to know this. Your faith is not a bottomless pit. Once you spend some faith, you gotta replenish that faith. When you spend faith, faith is not automatically put back in. You have to put it back in through feeding on the word, meditating on the word. Because faith is not a bottomless pit. When you pull a hundred dollar bill out of your wallet, you can't look there and watch another hundred manifest right there in front of you. It doesn't. Faith is the same way. Once you spend it, you've got to replenish it. And so I'm saying to God, my faith is being spent on so many other things. Is it wisdom for me to put another demand on my faith? Why? Because there's a measure of faith we have. And we all start with the beginning measure. We all start with the beginning measure. But how we treat that faith is going to determine what our faith can accomplish. The Bible speaks of increasing faith. It speaks of great faith. It speaks of little faith. It speaks of no faith. It speaks of dead faith. All these are measures based on how you treat the Word and how you act on the Word and the place the Word holds in you. And I know this. You don't want to go out beyond your faith. The Holy Ghost will never lead you beyond your faith. He will never lead you beyond your faith. What's that mean? Anytime the Holy Ghost leads you, you're not at risk. The risk is not following him. That's the risk. But following the Holy Ghost has no risk tied to it because he will never lead you beyond what your faith can receive. Now, I don't have it in front of me, but It's Romans, chapter 15, verse 13. It says, Somebody find it for me real quick. Romans 15:13. And tell me the exact wording. I know the general wording, but I want the exact. Since we're not able to put the scripture up on the screen. Do you have that, Pastor Jan? Where is it? Oh, thank you. May the God. Do I want the amplified classic? Sure. May the God of your hope so fill you with all. Look at this. Joy and peace in believing. What's that mean? When you're believing, you'll be in joy and in peace. When you're within your measure of faith, you will be in joy and in peace. If you're out beyond your measure of faith, you will feel in here, overwhelmed, like now. I'm not talking about the mind. Because the devil will always push on the mind to accuse you. You don't have enough faith. Don't go by your mind, ignore that. Ignore that. But when you're within your measure of faith, you're excited about believing. There's a joy to it. There's a peace to it. You might. You can't just say, okay, I'm going to check my faith level today. How do I do that? Check my joy and peace? For example, if you have a $10,000 bill that shows up and it's unexpected to you, you didn't know it was coming, and you say, God, I'm going to believe you for $10,000. And all of a sudden you heard her going. You start breathing hard, that heart starts going, ah, ah. What is that? You're overwhelmed your faith. You just overwhelmed your faith. So what do you do? You back it down. Where do I have peace about believing? Where do I have peace about believing? Where do I have joy about believing? Well, can. What about 5,000? Can you believe for that? Oh, it's a lot. That's a lot, isn't it? Okay, let's back it down. Let's back it down. Can you believe for a thousand dollars? Have you ever believed for. Yeah, I've seen God do that for me. $1,000. I've seen. Okay, good. Let's believe for $1,000. 10 times. Believe for first, take it a bite at a time. You know this. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time, right? How do you remove a mountain? Jesus said, whosoever shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed? Who said it was removed? In a moment, every day you release your faith. That mountain's moving. That mountain is moving. So you say. You say, I believe God for a thousand before. Good. Now you know you have peace about that. There's joy about that. You don't seem overwhelmed in here. Then believe for the first thousand, believe for the second thousand. And let me tell you what will happen. Every time you believe, your ability to believe will increase. The Holy Ghost will never lay more on your faith. But if you. And that's why I've never told people what they should be believing, because I'm not the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost knows. And I've. I've seen people and I've had to help. Through the years, other congregation members who had walked with God a long time woke up and said to others, why don't you just believe for this? You don't have the counsel of the spirit based on counseling people on your measure of faith. You have to find out their measure of faith, and you have to help them succeed at that measure. And not scold them for that measure. You can't tell people how God's dealt with you and say, well, that's what you need to do. No, that's not the spirit of wisdom, that's not the spirit of counsel. You have to know, how do I help them succeed at their place? So I was asking God, is it wisdom? Because I've got six and a half million responsible for over a million is due immediately and you're talking to me about another house. My platter can't stack anything else on it, you know, But I was not out beyond joy and I wasn't out beyond peace. Can I tell you this? People say, well, I don't back up. If you're out beyond your faith, you better back up. Because that's not a negative to get within your measure of faith. It's not a negative. People here, you know, preachers like Charles Capps and dad Hagin and different preachers talk about what they believe. I'm going to do that. Well, you can if you'll keep feeding your faith, keep exercising your faith. Amen. But you won't get there overnight. First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. It's a process. Love the process. As much as you love partaking of the harvest, I love the process of renewing my mind. I love the process of feeding my faith. I love that I honor that process because it is still the flow of God. No matter what my degree or measure of faith is, it's still the flow of God and it's faith that pleases God. Amen. So I said to God, I said, is it wisdom? Maybe don't take my words on that. Is it wisdom for me as a widow to take the only amount of cash I have and go buy something that's going to call for more cash than I've ever had? And he said this, the money is for the plan. I got it. If that's the plan. If that's the plan, that's all I need to know. It's not about the money, it's about the plan. It's not about the money, it's about the plan. It's not about. If you get money minded, you will cheat the plan of God in your life. If you make decisions based on money, you will cheat the plan of God for, for your life. When my husband went home to be with the Lord, Dad Hagin was our spiritual father for decades then my husband was that voice. But when he left, when he left, I said to God, one of the first Things I asked God the day my husband left was this. Who's that voice into my life? Why I need a voice of someone who knows God better than me, more so at this time than any other time. I'm not looking out to. I'm not looking to be independent. Dr. Sumrall used to say this to us. He was our pastor for decades. And Dr. Sumrall used to say this. The first banana to leave the bunch gets peeled. What's that mean? Your safety is not in being independent. Your safety is in being connected to. To someone who knows God better than you to help you come up. Because whether you know it or not, you cannot fulfill what you're born for alone. You need somebody to impart and speak and check your sanity. Some people need to get in our face sometimes and say, you're off base. And you need to say, thank you for not leaving me like that. I tell you, I don't. I appreciate that. People say how much they love me. I appreciate that. But what I value is when somebody says, you need to change this, because that's my rescue. It's not what I'm doing right that hurts my life. It's what I'm doing wrong. And if you will help me to see where I'm missing it. You're my friend. You're my. And I'm not inviting everyone to line up and tell me where I'm missing it. I'm saying, who is that voice in my life that will check my sanity? I have had Brother Copeland to get off of his plane. We'd go meet him at his plane when he comes to preach at our church. And him ask me a question. And I just melt because I didn't have the right answer. And him give me those Indian eyes. I'll go, oh, I am so rebuked. And I thank God that I have someone that cares enough to let me know when I'm not on course or, you need to adjust this, or thank God for that. And that's what I asked for that day that my husband left. Who is that? And he said to me, who had my word in their mouth for you? Because Brother Copeland called me just really moments after and started speaking to me by the spirit. And I go, as many wonderful minister friends as I have, they encouraged me, blessed me, but I said, this man had God's words for my future in his mouth. I recognize that you need to recognize who is it that God has put in your life to listen to that? Can I tell you? Can I tell you? God said to Me, if you do not connect with him, you will not reach the end of what you're born for. Because he walks in graces. You're going to need to walk in to fulfill what I have for you. God's not magnifying a man. He's magnifying what he put in the man for us to partake of that. So what did that mean? That was in October of 2013 that Ed left. January. Brother Copeland came to our church and he started. And he's come every January since then. And he. Every time. Well, he called me one day and he said, nancy, you're going to be at Southwest Believers. I can't tell you how my travel schedule was the year after Ed left. It was packed. I wasn't home maybe, tops five days in a month. And he said, nancy, are you coming to Southwest Believers? And I said, brother Copeland, there's nothing like having to tell someone, no, because you're stupid. And you have to tell the man of God. I'm stupid. Check my stupidity. And I said, brother Copeland, I don't have that on my calendar. And the other end goes silent. And I go, nancy, you're so stupid. And he said, nancy, I think you need to pray about that. I don't need to pray about that. I'll be there. Change my schedule. I don't see. That's what I'm talking about. Somebody that you'll listen to and you make a quick, quick change. You make a quick change. Since then, I've not missed. The first thing that goes on my calendar is not my schedule. The first thing that goes on my calendar is his schedule. Because I need his voice more than I need my schedule. Many people think their travel supports them. No, it's who I'm connected to. And am I listening? That's what nourishes the mantle and my future. Yes. Yes. So before I set my travel schedule, the first thing that goes on is the meetings. I know I'm supposed to be in at Brother Copeland's, him at our church, me at his ministers conference, me at Southwest believers, all 27 services, if possible. Sometimes it's not possible because my backside said it's not possible. I have been. Usually it's around 25 services I make, and I'm at Victory Thong. That. That. That goes on first. I never have walked into my financial office and said, can I go? Why? The money is for where I'm to be. I don't check my money to add to give me permission to be somewhere. I'm going to be there. And the money must come because I'm going to be where I'm supposed to be. The money is for the plan. I am not going to save money and stay at home. And not because I spend thousands and I bring staff and we spend thousands and thousands and thousands to be where I need to be. Why? Because I'm not trying to save money. I've got a plan to fulfill. And I need all the divine help from the divine supply, the divine voice. I need to hear words. I need to hear words people say. Well, I can just sit at home and hear from God. There are things God has to say to you that will only come through your pastor's mouth. And God will not say them to you at home. You've got to get in church to hear them. There are words that God has for my future that will only come through Brother Copeland's mouth. And I can't just stay at home and pray in the Holy Ghost and hear all that God needs to say to me. I've got. There are locations I must be to hear words, to hear words that are going to help me reach my finish. And if you don't know who though who that voice is, you're at risk. Because everyone needs somebody who knows God better than them. Now, when you get to be the general that like Sister Pat is, they're giving out commands. But you better know, if you're not a general, guess what? Fall in rank and show up. And show up. Can I tell you, dad Hagin made a statement one time. He said the reason a lot of people don't do as well as they could. He said they are not all in to the meetings where they're supposed to be in. They pick and choose. Well, I'll come to that one. And I'll come to that one. Dad Hagen taught us, when you're supposed to be there, be all in. Be all in. Can I tell you this, Pastors, don't you want your congregation members all in? Don't you want them to just not come once a month? Why? You can't go and advance very far with congregation members that are absent. You just can't. Well, neither can pastors. You can't advance when you're absent from the place you're supposed to be. Well, I'm trying to save money at the cost of the plan. See, we just have to know these things. They have to be said. You just have to have somebody to remind you because money will try to talk you out of where you're to be. But you take your counsel for money. And it'll rob you of God's best. Money is nothing but a tool. It's not an advisor. I've never seen a carpenter pick up a hammer and say, can I build this cabinet today? Hammer. Will you give me permission? No. A hammer is nothing but a tool to help that man do what he's to do. Money's nothing but a tool to get me where I need to be. So when I said to God, you think I forgot? I said to God, is it wisdom for this widow to take the amount of money that I have? I could have paid off my current home. It made good sense. Can I tell you what? Walk by common sense until God. Until the Holy Ghost says something different. That's what I do. I don't say holy Ghost. I'm not going to do anything until you tell me. No, no, no. I walk by common sense. And if that is not the highest flow, the Holy Ghost will tell me. And then I back up off of common sense. And I go with divine sense. I don't sit at home inactive, waiting to hear a voice. I just go with good judgment. I go with common sense. And I said to God, my common sense tells me, pay off my current home. But the Holy Ghost says, buy another home then. That is the wisdom of God. So I did. And it was the first home ever I paid cash for since being married. You know, it's the first home ever. God brought me into a paid for flow. And because I obeyed God to get in that paid for flow, everything else is getting paid off because I took what he told me. And I stepped into a paid for flow. And in that paid for room, everything gets paid for. So I'm not. I don't know that I've ever told this publicly. I'll tell it because you're Okies. I love Okies. I'm Okie. Okie to the bone. Okie to the bone. And I was in St. Petersburg. Russia. You thought I forgot that too, right? I still. I was still there. I had just bought the castle, and I'd said to God, was that a good investment? And one night, in a dream, Brother Copeland stood in front of me. Why? It doesn't matter who you're connected to. Because God will use those people for words. Words. But if you're loosely connected, where your word's going to come from? Well, from the Bible. How shall you hear without a preacher? How shall you hear without a preacher? You need a preacher to preach divine words. Someone anointed of the spirit to speak into your life. For congregation members, that's your pastor. But for ministers, you have to know, who is that that God has ordained to speak into your life, to give you words? Because how shall you hear without a preacher? The more I sit under the preacher God has connected me to, the better my hearing is. Because how shall you hear without a preacher? Every time I sit under the preacher that I'm to be listening to, my hearing improves. I hear more accurately. I hear more clearly what God has to say. So Brother Copeland stood in front of me in this dream. I've never told him this. See, if he finds out. I'm not trying to be weird, so don't tell me you're seeing dead people or living people in your dreams all the time. Don't. Don't. Amen. So we'll not go there. But I. He stood in front of me and he said, it was a good investment to buy that home. Why is it? Because the spirit is said to do it. And the second thing he said, he said, that home to renovate will take all your faith and it'll take all your money. And he said, but once it's done, it's time to run. Now, I was saying to Pastor Noel and Pastor Ruby, they've been my traveling companions, for they're my good, good buddies. So we went to lunch the other day before we came here, and I said, you know, when I started, because I'm in the process of renovating that home now. And they said, it'll take millions to renovate it, which means the government gets millions. And. So I thought, all the money I get personally, I'll stockpile it in the direction of this renovation. But I told them, I said, I'm so stunned and so surprised because I thought, I'm going to stockpile so I can have the renovation money. And I said, God has had me to keep emptying that account out almost. God don't. You know. And I said, but something has happened. One man. Because my contractor walked into the home. It's quite a home. I love unique. I love different. And as I renovate it, we'll film all this process, and I'll put. Put it on the. Jesus, the heater. I'll put clips of it to show the progress, because I want the body of Christ to enjoy. It's an inheritance, you know. And so I. The contractor said, nancy, this is not a contractor's home. This is an interior designer's project. Because we're not changing the footprint. We're just touching all the surfaces. So a precious man. I kept Praying about we couldn't find the right interior designer. Now I'm getting somewhere. So you're still with me. I'm really not talking house. I'm talking plan of God. I'm talking supply of God. I'm showing you the details of the supply of heaven. And. So I went to a church and I walked in the back room and the pastor had just renovated his office. And I loved it. I walked in and he said, a man in my church did it. And when he said that, God said to me, that's your interior designer for your castle. I didn't even know who the man was. And I said, bring him back here at the end of the service. I'd like to meet him. God. He was watching. This interior designer was watching Jesus the healer. The Friday. This was a Sunday, the Friday before. He's watching it. God spoke to him and said, you're going to help her with her castle. So I said, call that man back there. I didn't know God had told him that. Call him back after the service. And I said, I have a project on my board. He says, yes, I know about it. Yes, I'm the man to do it. And he says, I'm. So I'm sewing it. This is a man who they call to do all the Louis Vuitton's Gucci, Christian, Louis Vuitton, all these upper end. He does them all in genius, his skill level. And so he sends us 3D dimensions, drawings, all of it, but the colors, the crown mold, everything. It would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Because God is not using my money. He's using divine connections. But I said to Pastor Ruby and Pastor Noel, I said, brother Copeland had, you know, had said, it's going to take all your faith and all your money. And she said, you had. And I said, all my money, though, has been going to seed. She said, he said it'd take all your money. He didn't say the money would be for renovation. The money's for seed. Why? Because when I give my seed, it comes back as a skill, a tradesman, and I don't have to pay taxes on it. The genius of God that the government. Pay what you owe to the government. But I don't want to pay what I should not pay, what's not appropriate. The genius of God. If you turn your finances into a seed, it takes on. And then we're at Southwest Believers Convention in June. And a bodyguard to one of the Copelands walked up to Stephen and says, does your mother have the cabinets for her home? Yet he goes, no, she doesn't. He said, I'm looking to sow seed. I'm a cabinet maker. I'll make them all see. What is that I'm sowing seed? Because the money's for the plan. The plan for the money was seed. The plan for the money was not purchased. The plan for the money was seed. I'm not saying all your money is that way. I'm saying follow the Holy Ghost. It looks like he's telling me. It looks like he's diminishing my accounts, but he's increasing it in another form. It looked like God was diminishing Gideon. He wasn't. He was getting rid of that which would hinder the wind. Men of fear sent him home first, then took them to the water. Watch them drink, because it matters. If you don't know how to drink, you're going to be a hindrance. You don't know how to stay full. And he ended up with 300. And it looked like God had diminished him when God was positioning him because even though he was outnumbered, he wasn't outpowered. You're safe in following the words the Spirit gives you. When the Holy Ghost would speak to me, so this. And the mind starts calculating. Okay, but if I take this out of that account, the money is for the plan. It's not for your plan. It's for his plan. Amen. Praise the Lord. Well, we went a different direction. I was going to preach on the prophet of following the Holy Spirit, but there is a prophet. It was a whole different direction. But what am I saying? You are always safe in following the Holy Ghost. There's no risk to it. The risk is when you veer from what you. He says that's the risk. There's no risk to faith. Faith will put you on the edge just to improve your view. And it will be the cutting edge, not the jagged edge. The Holy Ghost will always put you on the edge. He will never leave you back in comfort zone. He will always put you at the front edge of your faith. The front edge. He will never put you over the line of your faith, over the measure of your faith, but he will put you at the front edge of your faith. And then he'll say, no, stretch, reach. He will. And if you're going to check your mind, your mind will talk you out of that divine stretch. Come on. That's right. God has had me to give amounts of money that I had to have a renewed mind to hear what he said. I had to have a renewed mind to hear what he said, because what he said, my mind would have kicked out if it weren't renewed. When our mind isn't renewed, it argues against what God would say to us. And I was telling someone, I'm learning that when the spirit of God says something, just talk. Let me just say this, for example, while I was talking about an amount to give, I've learned ignore the numbers. It's not about the numbers. It's about the obedience. It's about the obedience. And so he's. If I could say this, he choked me real fast on big numbers so that I would quit noticing numbers and just obey. Can I tell you this? The more you think about money, the harder it is. The less you think about money, the easier money comes. The less you think about money, the easier money comes. The more you think about it, the harder it comes. Why? Because it's not about money. We're not to be money minded. We're plan minded. Is this the plan of God? It's already supplied. He's already funded his plan for your life. It tells us in Hebrews 4, verse 3. Can y' all pull that up on there? It's the last phrase, Ms. Jessica of the Amplified classic. Hebrews 3, Hebrews 4, verse 3. Because this you need to take and spend before God all the time. Look at the last phrase, the last three lines. And he said, although his works had been completed and prepared and waiting for all who would believe from the foundation of the world, his plan for your life has been completed, prepared and waiting for your faith to show up before the foundation of the world. That's why we don't worry when he tells us to do something because he's already prepared for it. He's already completed the supply everything to accomplish what he's told you to do. Amen. Aren't you thankful for the word of God tonight? Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Send with me if you would, tonight. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Morgan, do you have that microphone there or you have it? Thank you. Pastor Noel, you have something come up here. If you would just obey God what he has praised. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Come over here to the center, if you would.
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Yeah. Faith is an act that you can't act without the Holy Ghost.
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Remember the time that they were the priests, carried that ark of the covenant. And Joseph said, you let those be do first. And then pastor was saying, they lead you in the edge. The edge. But the Holy Ghost is always in front of you in that edge. If he leads you in that edge, he leads you.
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Amen. All this, all this, what we're hearing in this, in this meeting, is teaching us how to follow the Holy Ghost. He said, when you follow me, I bring you. He said, son, I brought you in so many things in the edge of life, the more you get into that edge with me, I'm always in front of you. I have to lead you. And if you follow me, things will open for you. That water opens up. The power of God opens up. I am the power. If you follow me on the edge, I'm leading you. Things will open up for you. Amen. Things will open up. Some of you, many, you got into the edge, but you follow the Holy Ghost no matter what. And this meeting, if you listen to it over and over in the morning and even tonight, because faith cometh by hearing and hearing the word of God. Pastor Nancy just read that part. What he prepared for you, Nobody knows what he prepared for us, but the Holy Ghost, he has to lead you in those preparations and when you follow him by worshiping. So you have to want to understand all this. Brother David teaching us about worship. See, there's two things. You can see that. First, Peter 5 about the devil. He's seeking. What's that? He's seeking to debar. He went rolling lions. Seeking those that devour, those that worry, those that care for this life, those that don't hear from God. And he's talking about Christians there, not unbelievers. And the devil Seeking those. Seeking you if you worry, seeking you if you're not worshiping God. Now, another seeking there is. When you worship God, you are seeking those. So he bypassed many of us if we're not worshiper. Right. He's seeking those that will worship him and spirit and what he's seeking those. He's seeking those. He just doesn't. The devil just doesn't destroy people. He's seeking. Yeah, he's seeking. He's seeking people. Amen. He devours. Mess up your life. But if you're always in the presence of God, you always draw near to God. The message this morning, the message, all these messages, is to stay close and worship. Always worshiping God. He can't devour you. Is God seeking you in this time of praise and worship? Oh, my Hallelujah. And things open for you. Paul and Silas, they praise, they pray and sang praises. Things opens up. You become an epicenter of the power of God. He's seeking. He's seeking. So if you follow him in the edge, like what Pastor Nancy said, And you can't do that without praying in the Spirit, without fellowshipping with God. Every time you worship God, the devil said, oh, he's not the one that we're seeking. He can't devour you because the Father, the Father is seeking those that will worship him in spirit. Can you imagine if you worship and you wake up in the morning, father, I worship you. There you go. That's the presence of God. That's the Holy Ghost. And when he leads you into that edge. Amen. Hallelujah. Things is about to open. It's about to open for you. The demonstration of the Spirit. Every morning, every day. You know, my dear, because the type, the type, the time things is opening up the glory of God. The glory of God. This is the days, the time of the glory of God. And this is the time of the manifest. What is the glory for? What is the power for? What is the Holy Ghost for? Is to manifest. To manifest what you believe he will manifest. This is the days of the manifestation of the Spirit. That's recall. That's why that Eggin said, you cannot compare this era, you cannot compare this Word and Spirit era to all the eras. Because this is the time of the manifestation of all the things that God said. Because not a doubt in his word will not come to pass. It will come to pass before his return. This is the time, this is the days that this is the time of the manifestation of the Spirit of God. This is the time unto God. The Holy Ghost will open things for us. The Holy Ghost. If you follow his leading. Those that will worship, those that will spend time with him, each and every day of your life, things will open up. Things will open up. Things that cannot be opened by man. God will open it. God will open it. God will open it. God will open it. It's an opening time. Nations will open up. It's time to worship God. It's time to pour our hearts to the Messiah. Because the Word, the Word, the word will be heard. The word is time for this Oma of the Spirit. Oh God. Oh Lord. The Spirit of seeing and knowing is in great manifestation. Because this is the time. This is the time. The fulfillment of everything. The fulfillment of what happened the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit has agreed upon.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.
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I thought I hit something as fire back up. I thought I hit like a. Wow. Hallelujah. Remember God said he's giving you that property.
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Because you. These people have to worship.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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And it's time for that.
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Yes.
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It's time for that.
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Yes.
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It's time for that property to come. It's time for all the.
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Yes. Yes.
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Oh, my.
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It's opening up. Yes.
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It opened up.
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Yes.
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It's time. You are praying all these things.
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It's time. Yeah.
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We've been living in the heads by the leading of the spirit.
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Yeah. It's time. Yes, sir. Yes. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Let's just lift up our hands and worship. Morgan, come up here. Morgan. You have something. Deliver it. Whatever. Let's join her. Let's join her. So. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. Oh, the voice. Ah, the voice reaches. It reaches. It reaches. It reaches. It reaches into the uttermost parts. It reaches into the uttermost parts.
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It reaches.
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Reaches. The voices. The reach the uttermost parts of the world. The voice now will reach the uttermost parts of the world. The voice. The voice. The voice to the uttermost. The uttermost part. The voice. Because you've been faithful in the smaller parts. Now it's going to the uttermost part. It's time for the uttermost parts. Because when the uttermost parts are reached, then it's time. It's time. It's time. Oh, hallelujah. For the uttermost parts. And the worship. Yes, I. I see that. And the worship. The teaching on worship will teach people, will show people how to allow God into the uttermost parts of their life. Yeah. The uttermost parts of their life. We thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. Glorify. We thank you, Father. Hallelujah. Let's just lift up our hands and worship him. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Can I tell you this? It matters what we do every day. Because that's our practice ground for where he's taking us. You know, one of the most enthralling people of the Old Testament to me is Joseph. As a young man, he was a shepherd boy for his daddy, right? Sold by his brothers. That's special. That's real special. And the last thing he heard out of his brothers was sold. And he was carried as a slave into a foreign land. Think foreign land. Nothing's familiar. Nothing is yours. Nothing is at home in you in that foreign setting. And you think, and he sold. But he sold to Potiphar. Potiphar is the Leading military man in the greatest nation on earth. It looks like Joseph could have just copped an attitude, carried a way of thinking of offense, bitterness, resentment toward his brothers. But he did not carry that posture because Potiphar recognized something different about him and said, don't put that boy in the field. Put him in my house. Why? Because God was with him. God was with him. And it was perceivable in such a way that no doubt Potiphar didn't know God's with him. He just said he's different. Put him in my house. He got a first rate education under Potiphar. Potiphar trained him how to take care of his house. You understand that? He wasn't learning that in the field with a sheep. It looked like a hard road of education. But education he's not paying for. Can I tell you this? The best education is the one you didn't pay for. That's the best education. When you can get around someone, they're not paying you, but you're there learning, you're watching and they tell you, don't do that. And you say, thank you for helping me. When you get the hands on education, far better than a paid for education. Because people walk away from a paid for education all the time. They say, I don't like that, I won't learn that. I do like this, I'll learn that. But in a hands on education, you don't get to choose what you learn. You're learning what's assigned to you. And sitting in Potiphar's house, Potiphar gave him the education of a military man who has excellent order. Right? Military. I love working with military people. The thinking, I love it. And he got a first rate education under the leading military man in that household. It said there was nothing of his household that wasn't under Joseph's command. That's going to include finances. Yeah. And you think he learned all he could in that setting. Why? Because if he would have gotten offended, the Lord could not have blessed him. But it said the Lord was with him. God can't be with offense. Something of his presence will be hindered in offense. So we know this about Joseph. He was not an offended young man bitter with the world, carrying a chip on his shoulder when he could have. How we feel about how we've been treated is up to us. It's not up to how we've been treated. It's what we choose to take in and hold to. No one forces us into bitterness, no one forces us into offense. And you could Say Joseph, you think you're about as low as it can be. You're a slave. Hang on a minute. It's fixing to go lower. And he gets falsely accused of a crime by woman who was having a self image problem because she's aging. She wants to think herself desirable to the young men. What is that? She's having a self image problem with her aging. Can I tell you, as you get older, just rejoice your way through it and get over that self image mess. Just a little help. It's a privilege to get older. Allah would have liked to have as I get older, thank God I'm still on this earth to get older because a lot would have liked to have changed places with me. It's an honor to get older. And Potiphar's wife wanted to think herself desirable to the younger generation because she struggled, struggling with her own self worth. And they set up a mock trial, set up a mock trial to sentence this young man. He's had to endure a mock trial. God didn't deliver him from that. He went all the way into prison and stayed there 12 years. Stayed there 12 years. What was he doing? Guarding his heart, learning God, fellowshipping with God, rising to the top of every level he was at as a slave. He rose to the top. Potiphar gave him his household to be in command of down in the prison. He rose to the top. He's in charge of all the prisoners. Listen, they're most rebellious people that could not dwell among society or down there. And God gave him a first rate education. If you can deal with the hardest, if you can train the hardest, if you can put something into the hardest people, everyone else is easy. And that's what God was doing, giving him a first rate education and not paying a dime for it. But it was costing him something of his insides to make sure he was clean and stayed pure before God in his attitude. I tell you what, when somebody corrects you, you need to say thank you for loving me enough not to leave me in my wrong. If you close down and get defensive, you end up robbing from your own life. Listen, can I tell you something? God rewards correction. Whom the Lord loves, he corrects. And we are changed from glory to glory. The reward of changing and not staying the way you were is greater glory. He rewards change. Instead of people saying I'm right and I know I'm right, no, I'm willing to make a correction if I need to change something. Why? Because greater glory is on the other end of that change. So he Wakes up one morning after 12 years in the same prison. But that night he goes to bed, second in command of the greatest nation on earth in one day. In one day, the whole scene changed. You think one day. No, it was 12 years of arriving at that one day. What is this? First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. God had to get this man ready by the time of 30 to be second in command of a nation. And I don't know of any 30 year old that's ready to be second in command of a nation. But God got him ready. You talk about the fast course of spiritual development. I love something Buddy Harrison said one time. He said, God can pull you through anything if you can stay in the pool. Because I tell you what, when God is growing up somebody, he's not petting them to the top, he's pulling them through the top in the sense of, you will feel like the seasons of correction. Because I've gone through those to where it seems, man, every statement from God seems, change this, change that, and that's him loving on me. And so Joseph comes out of prison and he's not just put in just any old government position. He's running the economy of a nation. The economy fails, the nation's done. You understand that if an economy fails, the nation is done. Everything of that nation hinged on that man's wisdom, his success working for his daddy as a shepherd. He had no paycheck. If you're raised in Oklahoma, you don't get paid for making your bed. My mother did not give us allowance. She said, why should I pay you every week to clean up what you messed up? You slept in that bed. Why should I pay you to make it? You lived in this house. Why should I pay you to clean it up? Yeah, my mother did not pay. I never got an allowance. David, did you ever get allowance? No, we never got allowance, but mother said, but if you do what I tell you to do on Friday night when you want to go out with your friends, I'll bless you and give you money. She wasn't an ogre, but I'm just saying, she taught us, you don't work for pay. You work because you should. So. So Joseph is working not for pay for a daddy. He's not paying. You have kids, they're built in labor. They're built in labor. And if you don't use your children as built in labor, you're not. You can teach them to do that. So he's not getting paid as a slave. He's not getting paid as a prisoner. He's not getting paid, but when he comes out, he's ready to run the economy of a nation when he's never had his own bank account. What is this? God does not train you for big money by money using money. He trained you for big things by training your insides every day. Every day. It was his insides that qualified him to handle the economy of a nation. And he didn't take out his bitterness on that nation by ruining it through the economy. He didn't have bitterness because he could have turned a nation into a problem by saying, I'm going to get my vengeance on this place. Imprisoned me as youth is gone in prison. What am I saying? God trained him to run a nation by what he did every day. Keeping his heart right, keeping his attitude right, keeping his words right, keeping his fellowship with God flourishing. God trains us in the everyday. Don't look for big moments to impress God with. Just walk every day with him and his will is your priority. It's our everyday life. It's how we talk to somebody in the grocery store. God sees, hears all of. That's our training ground. It's not just times in the pulpit or times when you're being given some kind of recognition. God's not training us in the spectacular moments. He trains us in the unseen moments. The unseen moments. Hallelujah. Keep your heart right, keep your insides clean, and let the blood of Jesus know. The blood of Jesus is enough to deal with anything that needs to be dealt with of your past. Just leave it under the blood and let it be there. We don't need to update every problem of the past through our conversation and our thought life. Let the blood do what only the blood can do. It's the delete button on your past. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And live as though you never missed it. And believe God as though you never missed it. And fellowship with God as though you never missed it. One of the greatest acts of faith you can take is 1st John 1:9. I confessed my sin before you, God. I didn't hide it. I didn't blame. Shift the blame. I confessed my sin before you and now I'm cleansed by that blood. From all unrighteousness, I'm cleansed. And now I get up and act as though I never missed it. That's one of the greatest acts of faith. Instead of living under a cloud of guilt and condemnation of how I missed it and what I did wrong. Because the devil will rob from us that way. Even Our health, our future. Hallelujah. Well, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Young people, if I can tell you this. What you look at, where you go, who you talk to and what you say is all what God is trying to use to bring you into his highest flow. Don't throw that away. God wants to use the everyday things of your life to prove you. Not to test you, but to prove you. Amen. So use your earlier years to put right thinking and right behavior and right doing in place. And I tell you, the sad thing about this generation has temptations. Every age has its own temptations. Every age does. But this one has a particular one. Because used to growing up to go to places that people shouldn't go to, they had to risk. Risk being seen in public to do that. But today, they can sit in their bedroom and go to those places and be unseen. You have to have a watchful eye. The help of the Holy Ghost, the help of the Holy Ghost to live in a way that honors God. But I want you to know God is using what you do every day with your eyes, with your body, with your words, with your thoughts. He's using that because he wants to take you into his best, the highest flow of his plan. Don't think that it's only what we do in church that God notices and recognizes. It's our everyday. That's why I so love Joseph. He spent his every day, his every day in a difficult place. In a hard place. In a place that somebody else put him in. But he used that place to be ready by God. Hallelujah. I love him. I'm going to say hi to him in heaven. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you today. We thank you. We thank you. Well, as we said earlier in the service, if you're here and you came specifically tonight because you want to receive, you want to have hands. You want to have hands laid on you for healing. And you can't be here tomorrow night. We want to make sure we don't dismiss until we're able to minister to you. So you say I came just to have hands. Especially to have hands laid on me tonight for healing. Raise your hand. Let me see how many people that would be. Hallelujah. Because we'll get to everybody else tomorrow night. But if you have your hand raised, come on up. Come on up. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. The Lord is good. I said the Lord is good. The Lord is good. Congregation, doesn't it matter to us? If they receive, receive what they need. The word says, pray one for another. What? That you may be healed. What's he saying? When you release your faith for someone else's healing, it boomerangs back into your own life. And it needs to matter to us. That's how God keeps us. If I could say this, interested in the health of one another. Because he said, if you'll sow toward them, it'll boomerang back into health in your own life. So we take advantage of this time to pray for one another. Amen. So reach out your hands toward these people, those of you that are up here. Say this after me. Let your own heart agree with these words. But say this. Say when hands are laid on me, the healing power of God will go into my body. It will drive out pain and symptoms, sickness and disease. And I shall be whole because I'm a receiver. I receive the healing power of God into my body. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. Behold. Oh, there it goes. There it goes. Behold, there it goes in you, love. There it goes in you. Yeah. Behold, in Jesus name. Behold, there it goes in you. There it goes in you. Behold, there it went in you. There it went in you. For him or you for him? For him. What's the matter with him? Respiratory asthma. Yeah. Father, we thank you for lungs clear, lungs that work as they ought. Wholeness in the lungs. Every bit of that difficulty dry up in Jesus name. Behold, behold. What is it that you need? I need new kidneys. New kidneys. Father, we thank you. You have new body parts. They're living waiting for people's faith. So we call for new kidneys in Jesus name and in Jesus name. Let me tell you something. Years ago, my husband was ministering in a church. The pastor's son, I believe he was like a toddler age, but he had severe lung problems. And Ed was in the service that night and he saw an angel come in. And the angel was holding something. And he was holding new lungs and administered to the pastor's son because they were minister that those the angel brought them for him. And as they left the service that night, the pastor and over the next year, when that boy would start having the same symptoms with his lungs, the parents would say, new lungs don't wheeze. They answered it. They answered the symptoms they held to with their words. Our son received new lungs. And when it didn't look like it, they still believed words they didn't believe. Symptoms for a year. They said new lungs don't wheeze instead of saying, well I thought he got new lungs. I guess he didn't. No, they said new lungs, don't wheeze. After the end of a year, every symptom was gone. And that young man is in our Bible school today. Yeah. So we receive new kidneys. Amen. And if there's pain or symptoms, say no. New kidneys don't have that. New kidneys don't have that. Father, we thank you, we thank you, we thank you, we thank you, we thank you. You just keep your words of faith going. You do it. What about you, love? I have nodules on my thyroid. Uh huh. Father, we thank you. Every bit of that dry up. Every bit of that dry up for both of these babies. Allergies and swollen tonsils. Swollen tonsils, yeah. Father, we thank you. Those throats completely whole. Those throats completely hold every bit of the difficulty. Go. What about you, love? My sister in law, I was diagnosed with cervical cancer and I said it spread. So they said the cancer spread all over and even if it went away, it would come back. Yeah. Yeah. Aren't you glad you know what to believe? You have words, words to hold to. And the word tells us. Proverbs, chapter 4, verse 20:20 through 22. He said attend to my words. Then he tells us how to attend to them. Put them before our eyes, put them in our ears, put him in our heart. Because his words are medicine. The Hebrew says medicine, they're life. His words perform form like medicine. For medicine to work, you have to take it, right? For his words to work like medicine, we have to take them. So when you leave this place, get hold of healing scriptures, speak them, you may be doing that. Keep doing that. Double up on your dosage. Amen. Because you can't overdose on his word. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you. This is so easy for you. We receive the easy flows. We curse that, curse that cancer you die in Jesus name. You leave her body in Jesus name. We thank you Father for new body parts. We thank you for brand new parts. What is it that you need, sir?
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I'm here to receive a new knee.
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And a new new knee and elbow. Do you have, do you have pain in those or have they been medically. Do you have any knee replacement? Knock a knee replacement and they cannot do anything, they can't do anything with the elbow. Yeah, well aren't you glad to know God does elbows. Father, we thank you for new parts. New parts in Jesus name. New parts in Jesus name. What about you love? I've been battling for about six and a half years for multiple myeloma. Do you know what that is? Is it something with the skin? No, it's basically a cancer in the blood. Blood cancer. Okay. Yeah. Father, we thank you for new blood. Clean blood. Clean blood. I curse that cancer. You come out of her body, you come out of her blood, and there it goes. There it goes. In Jesus name. What about you, love? For knees? Yeah. Do you have knee replacements at all? Good. Father, we thank you for new knee. We thank you for new knees. We thank you for strength in those. In Jesus name. What about you, love? A hip and ear impingement they think is a torture horn. Labrum. Huh? Huh? And then my ear ringing. Yeah. That's been seven years. This is just a few months. Yeah. Father, we thank you. Oh, there it goes. There it goes. We thank you, Father. What about you, sir?
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I've had both hips replaced and they're.
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Both hips. Yeah. Father, we thank you for new body parts. We thank you for new hips. We you thank. Thank you, Father. You know, my husband was in a service years ago, and a man came up that had had a rod inserted up a portion of his back. So. So he very limited mobility. He couldn't bend over and touch his toes. So my husband ministered to him and he just went right over and touched his toes. He couldn't have done that with that metal rod. So the man thought for certain God had replaced that rod with new vertebrae. So while my husband was there for about a week in the meetings. And so during that week, the man went to the doctor to have an X ray. And the doctor took an X ray of his back and came back and said, who put hinges in this metal rod? So God did not replace it with bone. He caused the metal to behave like bone. Still a miracle. Ongoing miracle. However he does it, we take it. Amen. So, Father, however you do it, we take it. We thank you. We thank you. We take it. We take it. What about you, love? Seizures. For my daughter and for myself, autoimmunity. Okay. Okay. Father, we thank you for that healing anointing that goes into this cloth. And when it's laid upon her body, we speak to those seizures to stop. In Jesus name. You desist in your maneuvers against her life. And Father, we thank you for wholeness for her. We thank you whole. In Jesus name. What about you, love? Cancer. Cancer. Yeah. We speak to. We speak to that. Dry up. In Jesus name. What about you, love? I have a retina disease and I've Lost a lot of my vision. Uh huh. Retina disease. Yeah. Father, we thank you for new eyes. We thank you. We thank you. What about you, love? I have three things. I have degenerative disc disease in the sciatic nerve and I also have a prolapse planner. Yes, Father, we thank you. We thank you. Hold in Jesus name. Whole in Jesus name. What is it with you, love? You splained your foot earlier today, Father, we thank you for putting it right back. Every bit of the pain, every bit of the difficulty. Go in Jesus name. We thank you for it, Father. We receive it. What about you, love? Very sharp pain. They don't know what's wrong with me. I feel like I have a knife on my back. Uh huh. Uh huh. Every bit. Oh, there went that anointing. There it went in. There it went in. Yes. We thank you, Father. Hallelujah. Do something that would have been a difficulty for you. I feel like the pain is gone. That pain's gone. Did you have pain when you came up here? Oh, yeah, for eight years. For eight years. And it's. It's not there. Yeah. Move in a way. That would have been a difficulty. It always hurts. It always hurts, but it's not hurting now. I just want to. To die. Yeah. For a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Yeah. You came up expecting, right? Praise the Lord. Thank you, Father. Yes. Hallelujah. What about you, love? So I had pneumonia like a month ago because of it. It left like asthma in my lungs. Yeah. And then also like a sharp back pain. Yeah. Father, we thank you for clear lung. We speak to those lungs. Go clear. We speak to that back. Behold. What about you, baby? Yeah. Father, we thank you. Oh, there it goes in. There it went in. Yeah. There's my eyes boy. He comes to my room and we eat ice together. Are you my best boy? Yeah, you are. You're my. We have ice parties, don't we? I love you. I love you. Are you my best boy? Okay. What about you, love? I'm blind in my left eye. In your left eye. Father, we thank you for new. There goes that anointing. We thank you for new sight. We thank you, Father, we thank you for it. What about you, love a spine, huh? And a healthy mind. Yeah. What's been the. What's been the matter with your back? You have two ruptured discs. Yeah, Father, we thank you. There goes that anointing in you sense that. Yeah. We thank you for it, Father. And we thank you For a peaceful mind, Father. A peaceful mind is our inheritance. A sound mind is part of our inheritance, and we take it. We thank you for it, Father. We thank you. We thank you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. We were in a service once with dad Hagin. He walked over to the wheelchair section and he spoke healing in a general. You were there that night. But there was a woman who. She just endeavored to get up and she walked little by little, just took a step real slow. And dad Hagin walked up and started walking beside her and said, the more you walk, the more you can walk. The more you walk, the more you can walk. The more you walk, the more you can walk. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. So I say that to those of you who have been ministered to, the more you move that, the more you can move that. Amen. Don't just sit and wait to feel something. Act. The power of God meets the boldness of faith that will act. Hallelujah. So wherever you're at, move that around. Do something you couldn't do before. Is this a new line? Okay. Hallelujah. We praise the Lord. We praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Say again. Take care of the baby first.
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Yes.
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Okay. What's the matter with the baby? Love you don't know? He cries. He's in pain all the time, so the doctors don't know what's the matter. He just cries. Father, we thank you, you know. We thank you for that anointing. We thank you for that anointing. We thank you for the peace of God. God, the help of God. We thank you for wholeness in Jesus name. We receive it in Jesus name. And Father, we thank you for refreshing for her, peace for her. Yeah. We won't let the devil steal the moments of motherhood, the sweetness of these moments. So we thank you for. We thank you for it. We thank you for it. We thank you for it. We thank you for it. This is what I want you to do. You walk around your house and you worship God holding your baby. Don't try to figure it out. Don't try to feel like I've got to do something, he does something. But you just walk around your house and worship holding him. You do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How old is he? Five months. Is this your first? Yeah. We don't let the devil steal these wonderful times, right? Yeah. Father, we thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you. Making everything right. Making everything right. In Jesus name In Jesus name. In Jesus name is Morgan here. Come here, come here. Take this baby. Just hold him up next to you. Walk around with him. Turn him. Yeah, turn him towards you. Walk around. Just walk around worshiping God with him. We thank you, Father. What is it with you, love? My neck won't stay in place. What won't stay in place? My neck. Your neck? I have hernias from having baby. Hernias? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Father, we thank. We thank you for wholeness. Every bit of that dry up, go into place. In Jesus name. Hallelujah. Does she. You need anything, love? Are you up here with mama? Okay. What about you, love? My back start getting like getting problems. Yeah. I can't stand too long without getting hurting. Yeah. Or my son do have peace of mind and clear. Okay. You have a cloth for me? Hallelujah. We thank you Father. I speak to that. There it goes. There it goes. And Father, we thank you for that anointing going into this cloth. And when it's laid upon his body, it'll drive out that which troubles him. In Jesus name. Hallelujah. What about you, love? Gallbladder. Yeah. Father, we thank you for wholeness. I speak to it, behold in Jesus. And there it goes. We thank you for it. Hallelujah. What about you, love? You're good. You're with her. What is it? For about a year I've had to be in complete isolation in my ears. I had acoustic trauma from a dog barking and it loosened the stapes ear in my bone. And then from long Covid for a year and a half, bad migraines. Yeah, sure. Father, we thank you wholeness. We tell that spirit of deafness, you come out in Jesus name. And everybody every part made right. Ah, there it goes. There it goes in your love. There it goes in you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Okay, thank you. Hallelujah. That's that. That's a good quiet baby, isn't it? That's a good quiet baby. What about it, love? What is it you need? He had two strokes eight years ago. COPD. He's got 99% blockage on this. Uh huh. Father, we thank you. We thank you. Wholeness. In Jesus name. We speak to that. We speak to the brain. We speak to every part, function whole, be whole in Jesus name. And we receive it. And we receive it. And we receive it. We thank you, Father, we thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you, Father. We thank you for it. Father, we thank you for it. Father, we thank you for it. Father. We thank you for it, Father. Father, we thank you for refreshing for her. We thank you for strengthening with might in their inner man. Both of them. Both of them. We thank you for it, Father. We thank you for it, Father. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. He's doing good, huh? Hi, sweet boy. Hi, sweet boy. You're the star of the show. Look at this. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Yeah. Isn't it nice to hold them? Then pass them. Pass on the blessing. Right. Hallelujah. Congratulations on a sweet new baby. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord, Father, we thank you. Just lift up your hands. We thank you, Father. We glorify you. We magnify you. We glorify. We magnify. We glorify. We magnify. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. I tell you what, it just never gets old, watching Jesus do his. He longs. He longs for us to receive all that he purchased. It's not about getting him to give it. It's already given. All we need is already given. He hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. And I love the Norley translation. He said he's already blessed us with everything that heaven itself enjoys. Why? So that. That we would have days of heaven on earth. It's not about getting. We're not here to seek healing. We're here to receive it. Amen. We know where healing flows from, so we're not seeking it. It's not hiding from us. Amen. We're not playing hide and seek. And I hope I find it. No, we're here to receive it. And I'm a receiver. You're a receiver. We praise the Lord. We praise the Lord. We praise the Lord. I don't know where that microphone went. Would you grab me the microphone? Thank you. We thank you, Father. We thank you. I'm going to have the Andersons come up here. It seems to me, tongues and interpretation to the congregation that God has something for you to minister.
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There's a storm on the horizon. It's a storm of blessing.
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Yes.
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Storm of power.
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And we're getting ready.
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The times in which we live, we're getting ready. Everything that's been spoken, everything that's been demonstrated is to get us ready to move in that power.
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Yes.
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To move with the power of God. And the world will take note, just like they're taking note right now of storms. They'll take note of the storm of God's goodness and of God's glory in these last days.
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Yes.
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So listen, give Heed. Prepare yourself to move with that.
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In Jesus name. Hallelujah. Got anything else? Hallelujah. So be ready for the blessings. You be ready to walk in the midst of it. You be ready to make your stand and to place yourself in a position that you will not be moved. For the storm will come. A blessing will come to you. But at the same time, the enemy will try to bring a storm to sway you off of that blessing that God has for you. Do not be moved. Do not shirk back. Do not say no. I can't. Don't say no. It's too hard. Because blessing is yours. It's a divine plan for your life. The thing I like about that word storm is it's an accumulation. It's an accumulation, something building. Something building. Not a destructive storm, but an accumulation. Hallelujah. Of glory and a power and manifestation. The manifestation of goodness. The manifestations of goodness. Oh, the manifold manifestation of his goodness. We call it. We call it. We call it. We receive it. We receive it. I remember something that God said to my husband years ago. He said, son, you're going to see me heal people. You never would have healed, he said, because people think that someone doesn't deserve it or they don't look like they should have it. But he said, my mercy will go past what you see. Amen. Hallelujah. His mercy won't leave us out. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you tonight. You know, can I tell you this? I was raised in a denominational church. Precious people. I loved, loved, loved the people in that church. We weren't taught some of the things that we're seeing in the services. But can I say this? The first time I ever walked into a service and saw these kinds of things, I didn't understand, understand them. But on the inside, they fit on the inside. So don't step back from what you recognize on the inside. These. The flow of the spirit satisfies our insides. So don't step back from what you don't understand. Just focus on, ah, my insides are satisfied. And embrace this. Amen. It's okay if you don't understand something. It's okay if you've not seen it. I remember the first day I walked into first grade in the school I went to in Olustee, Oklahoma. For a short time, we didn't have preschool. Preschool was an unknown thing in our day. And in first grade, I went to class and the teacher said, open your books and we're going to read page one. And I thought, does she know? I don't know letters. And I just kept coming every day. And I started crying that first day because I thought, I'm in trouble. I'm supposed to know how to read, and I don't know how to read. But I realized by the end of the year, I'm reading because I kept showing up and learning. So I hope that these services introduce something to you that even though you might not understand, your insides recognize, your spirit recognizes. And know this. Every single one of us are created in the image of a supernatural God. And our insides hunger for the supernatural, the flow of God. And that's why you're satisfied. Amen. Because the supernatural satisfies our inside, just like the word satisfies it. Amen. So I don't want. We don't have time to explain in a service like this. We're only here for a short time to explain all the things you may see happen. But just. It's okay if you don't understand. Understand it, but just. No blessing comes out of it. Amen. And your insides are satisfied. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you. Sit down. Sit down, because I can't see past you. We praise the Lord. We praise the Lord. Y' all are such good listeners, Pastor. You've trained them so well. I'm not really trying to keep y' all here, but it's. You know, the Holy Ghost never tires us. It refreshes us. Right. To be in that flow. Father, we thank you. We thank you. We thank you. All right. Hallelujah. Let's stand and let's worship him. Hallelujah. Before we're dismissed, whatever you have, David, can we act on what we have heard Many times. And again, I reference what brother Joel was preaching about this morning. He said is auditoriums are designed for the sound to come from this way to that way, and the speakers are pointed from this way. Us to you. But what if we could get the sound going in both directions in praise? In other words, it was just as much from you toward us as us toward you. And so I just.
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I want to sing a little song.
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But just an anthem. But before we do that, just 60 seconds. Not praise from up here, but hooking in. Yeah, right here. Not even trying to gauge it with your brain. Can we do that? Just hands up and glorify. Just opening up your mouth and give him praise. Yes. We glorify and lead him. Everybody glorify. Hallelujah. We glorify you. Hallelujah. Glorify miracles. Jesus, we give you praise.
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We give you.
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The king, the king.
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The king, the glory The King.
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Jesus, Jesus we glorify. Bless the lord.
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And lord.
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My soul, Lord, all my soul and all that is within me holy. Let the lord lo. And all that is. Bless the lord.
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O my soul, Be let.
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Up your hand. You know, when Brother Hagen used to have meetings like this, he would pray that they would have a supernatural peace and a great sleep that night. Yeah. Do y' all receive that? Receive it. Did you guys receive anything today? Did we go higher? Did we go higher? Amen. Thank you, God. And so I just pray over you right now. Peace, I like that. And strength when you wake up and energy when you wake up. But your sleep, you will sleep better than you've ever slept in your life. Lord, thank you for tonight. We know it was. It was part of the whole plan. And, Lord, we thank you for every one of these healings. Now, before you go, I got to say one quick thing to everybody who has hands laid on. There was a boy they wheeled up to me in. In Missouri at a meeting, and he was in a bed, and he was, they said, retarded. He couldn't talk. And, you know, like that. I'm not making fun of him. And I whispered in his ear and I laid hands on him and I told him about rejoicing and playing football and all of that stuff, and he got excited like that, and the. And the parents were crying. And I remember Brother Hagin say, sometimes, just stay in neutral. We're good. But I could tell that the crowd kind of got. Oh, he didn't get it. And the Lord said, tell them that the power of God is working on him. Remember the lepers? They were healed as they went. Long story short, too late. Six months later, I'm at a youth rally. This young man comes up and he grabs, and he says to me, he says, can I give my testimony? And I said, sure. And he said, I'm that boy. He said, I'm that boy. And he told me everything that I had told him. So his spirit was not retarded. So that healing power, God is working in you right now. So you need to rejoice as you leave tonight. Rejoice as you drive home tonight. Rejoice as you go to bed tonight. Rejoice as you wake up to tomorrow. Amen. Praise. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner, or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Dufresne Ministries Podcast – October 14, 2024
Location: Collinsville, Oklahoma | JTH Crusades 2024 | Wednesday PM
This episode, led by Pastor Nancy Dufresne, centers on discovering, following, and living out God’s plan for your life by valuing His Word above all, acting in faith, and being sensitive to the Holy Spirit’s leading. Pastor Nancy weaves personal testimony, biblical lessons, and healing ministry to illuminate the practical application of faith and supernatural supply.
"Words govern all in God's kingdom. Words govern all of this earth. Words govern our lives."
— Nancy Dufresne (01:18)
“The centurion chose words over the presence of Jesus... He let him choose: how will this be ministered? Through my presence or through my word?”
— Nancy Dufresne (05:38)
“I help you when you put my word in your mouth. To the measure you put my word in your mouth.”
— Nancy Dufresne, relating God’s words during crisis (17:50)
“Everything God has authored for you comes loaded with the supply.”
— Nancy Dufresne (20:25)
“If you get money-minded, you will cheat the plan of God in your life.”
— Nancy Dufresne (39:38)
"The Holy Ghost will never lead you beyond your faith. Any time the Holy Ghost leads you, you're not at risk."
— Nancy Dufresne (36:05)
“Money is nothing but a tool. It’s not an advisor.”
— Nancy Dufresne (43:30)
“God does not train you for big money by using money. He trains you for big things by training your insides every day.”
— Nancy Dufresne (84:10)
“The more you think about money, the harder it is. The less you think about money, the easier money comes.”
— Nancy Dufresne (54:15)
“Worship is key. Every morning, every day... the Holy Ghost will open things for us.”
— Pastor Noel (61:40)
“God trains us in the everyday. Don’t look for big moments to impress God with. Just walk every day with Him.”
— Nancy Dufresne (72:20)
Faith-filled, practical, engaging. Pastor Nancy shares candid testimonies, often humorous, deeply personal, and always faith-challenging. The language is accessible, encouraging, and motivating—empowering listeners to act on God’s Word today.
Following God’s Plan is about elevating God’s Word, nurturing faith step by step, prioritizing obedience over logic, being submitted to God-assigned leadership, and embracing the process of growth daily. Miracles, provision, and divine guidance flow as a result. Listeners are challenged to look beyond natural constraints, stay connected in the spirit, and to let the everyday cultivate their readiness for supernatural promotion and fulfillment of God’s plan.
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