Podcast Summary: "Giants Are Bread For Us" | Nancy Dufresne | Georgetown, TX
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Date: May 1, 2021
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Episode Overview
In this message, Pastor Nancy Dufresne challenges listeners to embrace opposition and difficulties as essential opportunities for spiritual growth. Using the biblical account of the Israelites, Joshua, Caleb, and David, she illustrates that “giants”—the challenges and obstacles in our lives—are not meant to defeat us but to nourish and promote us. Through stories, scripture, and personal anecdotes, Pastor Nancy encourages believers to develop a champion’s mindset: to see every obstacle as “bread,” essential for nourishment and mastery, and to run towards, not away from, what God has promised.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Purpose of Opposition
- God’s Plan and Our Assignment (01:00)
- Every believer has a call and a purpose; fulfilling it is a privilege and brings God glory.
- "God has a plan for every one of us...He included us, making us co-laborers with him." (01:07)
- Opposition Comes with the Territory (03:00)
- Saying “yes” to God is also saying “yes” to challenges.
- Complaining about obstacles minimizes the greatness of our assignment: “Complaining and murmuring is putting it [the opposition] on a pedestal, giving it the centerpiece.” (03:55)
The Example from Numbers 13–14
- God Gives Before We Possess (06:00)
- God gave Israel the land before they saw it or possessed it: “It's not what you can see that's yours. It's what He's made yours that's yours.” (06:34)
- Right Thinking vs. Wrong Thinking (09:50)
- Caleb: “Let us go up at once and possess it, for we are well able to overcome it.” (10:44)
- Doubt speaks more and louder—81 words of doubt to 17 words of faith.
- “Doubt's a big talker...Faith is a mover and a shaker.”
- Faith is Eager to Act
- Faith rejoices in participating in God's plan, not just receiving passively.
- Doubt wants “something for free,” isn't willing to do its part—even though Israelites worked hard for Pharaoh, they didn’t want to exert faith for their own inheritance. (13:44)
- “God will turn you into owners...God will turn you into an owner that you’re not just living off some other man’s pot.” (14:44)
Giants as "Bread": The Right Mindset
- Joshua and Caleb’s Declaration (Numbers 14:9) (17:00)
- “Only rebel not...neither fear ye the people of the land; for they are bread for us: their defense is departed from them, and the Lord is with us.” (17:52)
- Giants/opposition are not for our downfall but our nourishment: “Your opposition is your nourishment. It's not your problem, it's your strengthening.” (20:36)
- Dr. Lillian B. Yeomans Analogy (21:30)
- “I believe in a diet of giants. Just devour each one that comes your way and become spiritually stalwart.”
- Bread as a Faith Metaphor
- Giants are a staple, just like bread was in every meal Nancy’s family had growing up. (25:23)
- “Giants are a staple in the life of faith—not for your undoing, but for your diet, for your nourishment, for your strengthening.” (26:28)
- “When you see a giant coming at you, consider it a round rock donut...Sweeten it up with your expectation.” (27:21)
- The hotter the opposition, the sweeter the victory. (29:12)
Mastery Through Eating Giants
- Bread as Essential Nourishment
- Spiritual maturity comes not just from blessings (“getting a car or a seed sown”), but from facing and overcoming giants. (25:55)
- Don’t ration this bread—eat all the giants you can for maximum spiritual strength. (31:09)
- Right Thinking Produces Mastery
- “Bread turns you into a master...You can’t be masterful in your salvation unless you’re eating giants.” (33:09)
- Slavery/Ownership Mindset
- Slavery mindset: fearing pressure, avoiding responsibility.
- Mastery mindset: “Let’s get it all—God created this earth for his family.” (34:11)
- “It’s wrong thinking that defeats us, not giants.” (36:30)
Advancing Through Doors of Opportunity
- Adversaries at the Door (1 Corinthians 16:9) (40:01)
- Every opportunity comes with an adversary; getting through means blessing not only yourself, but many others.
- “Anything that’s free isn’t worth having…If you want more, you better be glad to eat a giant.” (41:44)
The Proof of Mindset – Constancy and Fearlessness
- Paul’s Attitude Towards Opposition (Philippians 1:28, Amplified) (43:59)
- “Do not for a moment be frightened or intimidated in anything by your opponents and adversaries. For such constancy and fearlessness will be a clear sign...of their impending destruction, but...of your deliverance.” (44:08)
- The right attitude is evidence of victory already at work.
- Sports & Business Stories to Illustrate Mindset
- Boxing: Joe Frazier vs Muhammad Ali—Frazier was intimidated only when Ali smiled after a broken jaw: right mindset, unbreakable spirit. (47:53)
- Business: Donald Trump’s confidence in the face of massive debt illustrated the power of what you know, not just what you own.
- "If they saw fear on my face, I'm done." (50:19)
Faith in Action—Speaking and Doing
- How to Eat Giants
- Never face a giant with your mouth shut—speak faith. (59:44)
- David’s Sevenfold Declaration to Goliath (1 Samuel 17:45-47) (60:55)
- David’s Victory
- Defeating Goliath didn’t just save Israel, it promoted David and inspired the army.
- “Goliath was David’s place of promotion because he ate giants instead of hiding from him like the rest of the army.” (64:47)
Taking Ownership of Victory
- Say It, Do It, Receive It, Tell It
- A formula for faith from Jesus’ teaching to Kenneth Hagin:
- Say it – Speak boldly
- Do it – Act on the word
- Receive it – Claim the promise by faith
- Tell it – Testify to what God has done (79:00)
- A formula for faith from Jesus’ teaching to Kenneth Hagin:
- Testimony Spreads Victory
- Sharing your victory helps others rise up and take action.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On the Role of Giants
- “They are bread for us. So let’s eat. Your giants are your food...If you think right.” (20:36)
- On Avoiding Victim Mentality
- “Doubt will cheat you out of wealth. Doubt will cheat you out of your own. God will turn you into ownership.” (14:44)
- On Facing Opposition
- “Right thinking is God calls your giants your diet, but the natural carnal man calls it something to be feared.” (32:48)
- “It’s wrong thinking that defeats us, not giants. It’s wrong thinking you need to be afraid of, not giants.” (36:30)
- Constancy and Fearlessness
- “Your constancy and your fearlessness is their downfall. And your proof of your deliverance and salvation, that from God.” (44:56)
- David’s Battle
- “Never run toward your giant with your mouth shut. You can’t eat giants with a closed mouth. You eat giants with your mouth open.” (59:44)
- Faith Is for the Fight
- “Faith is for the fight. Faith is not for everything to be free.” (73:47)
- On Promotion
- “Defeating Goliath ushered David into the next level of promotion.” (66:51)
- Action Steps for Faith
- “Say it, do it, receive it, and tell it.” (79:11)
- Final Affirmation
- “Father, we are giant eaters...God said, my giants are my bread. So I delight to eat the bread of my giants.” (81:10)
Important Timestamps
- God’s Plan & Our Part — 01:00
- Complaining vs. Rejoicing — 03:55
- Numbers 13—God Gives Before We Possess — 06:00
- Right vs. Wrong Thinking – Caleb and the 10 — 10:44
- Mentality of Doubt and Faith — 13:44
- Joshua and Caleb: ‘Giants are Bread for Us’ — 17:52
- Dr. Yeomans’ ‘Diet of Giants’ — 21:30
- Bread as Spiritual Metaphor — 25:23; 26:28
- Mastery Through Eating Giants — 33:09
- 1 Corinthians 16:9 – Opportunity & Opposition — 40:01
- Philippians 1:28 – Constancy in Adversity — 44:08
- Boxing Metaphor: Joe Frazier & Muhammad Ali — 47:53
- Donald Trump’s Mindset in Crisis — 50:19
- How to Eat Giants – David vs. Goliath — 59:44
- David's Declaration to Goliath — 60:55
- Say It, Do It, Receive It, Tell It — 79:00
- Affirmation: “We are Giant Eaters” — 81:10
Conclusion
Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s impassioned teaching is a call for believers to embrace the challenges in their lives as moments of divine nourishment and promotion. By adopting the right mental attitude—seeing giants as “bread”—and boldly acting in faith, every opposition becomes an opportunity for mastery, advancement, and testimony.
Key Takeaway:
Don’t complain about your giants—eat them. God’s promotion lies on the other side of every obstacle you conquer in faith.
