Episode Overview
Title: God, A Covenant, And A Contradiction
Speaker: Kenneth Copeland (Guest Minister)
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Location: World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA
Date: January 4, 2020
This episode centers on the spiritual principles of covenant with God, exploring what it means to be in covenant, the contrast between human circumstances and God’s promises, and how to respond to apparent contradictions in life. Kenneth Copeland passionately teaches on these themes, weaving in personal testimony, scriptural exegesis, and practical exhortation aimed at awakening a covenant mindset in believers. The message is delivered in an encouraging, lively, and often humorous tone, with a strong emphasis on faith, confession, and the supernatural realities of God’s love and faithfulness.
Key Discussion Points
Praise, Worship, and Prophetic Exhortation
- Opening with Worship: Copeland leads in singing "To God Be the Glory" (00:02–06:30), emphasizing continual gratitude and praise to God.
- Prophetic Encouragement About America (07:00): Copeland voices a prophetic message regarding covenants at the nation’s founding, asserting, “This is the only nation ever formed with the purpose of worshiping me, saith the Lord… So give the Lord glory and say good things about him because he’s coming very, very soon” (08:45).
The Importance of Covenant (Ephesians 2)
- Scripture Foundation: Ephesians 2:11–12, exploring what it means to be a “stranger from the covenants of promise” (27:00).
- Covenant Mindset vs. Western Thinking: Western Christians often don’t understand or act upon covenant, unlike many global cultures or earlier biblical generations (28:20).
- Illustration: Copeland shares a story about generational mindsets, curses, and the power of covenant through his mother and a friend named Jimmy Hester (29:45–38:00). “That’s not a generational curse… That’s being a stranger from the covenants of promise” (37:30).
God, A Covenant, and A Contradiction (Romans 4 & Genesis 17)
- Three Pillars:
- God: His identity as El Shaddai, the All-Sufficient One
- Covenant: The binding, legal relationship established with Abraham and then to all believers
- Contradiction: The tension between God’s promise and our circumstances (“Abraham… considered not his own body now dead, nor the deadness of Sarah’s womb…”)
- Theology of the Covenant: The Old and New Testaments are both covenants; “testament” and “covenant” are interchangeable, legal terms—God’s will for His people (41:00–48:00).
- Name Change: “Abraham” receives the “H”—representing God’s own name—demonstrating covenant transformation (54:00).
Personal Testimonies and Covenant Realities
- Personal Journeys: Copeland recounts his journey to Oral Roberts University with no money and how he trusted God’s covenant promises for provision (60:00–70:00).
- Blood Covenant Ritual: Citing E.W. Kenyon’s insights, Copeland explains cultural blood covenant practices and parallels to communion (“This is my blood of the new covenant. Drink it.”) (75:00).
- Communion’s Power: The Lord’s Table as a living, activating covenant with God, not just ritual (77:30).
Faith in the Face of Contradiction (Romans 4, Hebrews 3 & 12)
- Ignoring Natural Contradictions: Abraham “considered not” his body or circumstances, but only God’s promise; believers are exhorted to do the same (84:00).
- Confession of Faith: Lengthy segment calling the congregation (and listeners) to declare healing and wholeness over their bodies (94:00–105:00).
- “I call my body well…I consider not my own body, but only that which God has promised” (95:00).
- Testimony of Persistence: Illustration of faith confession with Norvel Hayes and a paralyzed man (“Call your legs straight!”) emphasizing persistence in confession (106:20).
Jesus as Our Covenant Brother
- Covenant Identity: “You took his name and he took you. Yes, my brother and sister. This is real in heaven. It’s real in this earth.” (80:00)
- Melchizedek and Shem: Delving into biblical history of covenant, including Melchizedek blessing Abraham with bread and wine (111:40).
- Consequences of Covenant Ignorance: Without covenant understanding, communion and many spiritual benefits remain inactive in many believers’ lives (78:30).
Applying the Covenant: Practical Faith
- Active, Persistent Declaration: Faith requires continual, firm confession—privately and persistently, not just in church settings (109:30).
- Faith and Rest: Glorying in God’s faithfulness, even in sleep: “I call myself fast asleep. Thank you, Jesus.” (118:30).
- Wholeness in Every Promise: Salvation (sozo) is holistic—includes healing, provision, deliverance (120:00).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
“He’s exactly who He says He is, and He can do exactly what He said He can do, and He will do exactly what He said He would do—exactly that.” — Kenneth Copeland (46:24)
“Why on this big round earth would I think I’m going to receive what I inherited from God when I die? Brother, that’s stupid in the fast lane!” — Kenneth Copeland (48:15)
“That’s not a generational curse…That’s being a stranger from the covenants of promise.” — Kenneth Copeland (37:30)
“I want you to know there was a name changing ceremony went on in heaven. You took His name and He took you.” — Kenneth Copeland (80:15)
“Communion… you are drinking the blood of Almighty God. I’m His and He’s mine, and Jesus Christ of Nazareth is my blood brother.” — Kenneth Copeland (118:00)
“Faith is: I consider not my body…I consider Him who is the author and the provider and the finisher and the developer of my faith. And He’s faithful!” — Kenneth Copeland (99:30)
“You cannot just consider not your own body… but consider Him… fully persuaded.” — Kenneth Copeland (99:00)
“Don’t come tell me faith doesn’t work. It came too late for me.” — Kenneth Copeland (92:30)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 00:02: Beginning praise, “To God Be the Glory”
- 07:00: Prophetic word on America’s divine destiny
- 27:00: Teaching on Ephesians 2—Strangers from the covenants
- 29:45: Generational mindsets and covenant—Jimmy Hester story
- 41:00: Defining “testament” and “covenant”—legal terms of God’s will
- 54:00: Explanation of covenant name change (Abram to Abraham)
- 60:00: Copeland’s ORU testimony—trust and God’s provision
- 75:00: Blood covenant ritual and New Testament communion explained
- 77:30: Power and neglect of communion among many Christians
- 84:00: Abraham’s example—ignoring contradictions
- 94:00: Guided healing confession
- 99:00: “Consider not” versus “consider Him”
- 106:20: Norvel Hayes—and faith confession’s persistence
- 111:40: Melchizedek, Shem, and the bread and wine blessing
- 118:00: Communion as drinking the blood of the covenant; “Jesus is your blood brother”
- 120:00: Salvation as wholeness—sozo
Flow and Tone
- Language: Conversational, anecdotal, filled with humor and southern idiom (“stupid in the fast lane”).
- Tone: Affectionate, emphatic, encouraging, occasionally playful, but always earnest in its exhortation to deep faith.
- Delivery: Frequent interaction with the live congregation and illustrative storytelling; dynamic, sometimes moving rapidly between personal testimony and scripture.
Summary Takeaway
Kenneth Copeland’s message, "God, A Covenant, And A Contradiction," is a stirring call to rediscover, believe, and act on the reality of God’s covenant. He urges believers not to let the contradictions of circumstance cause them to doubt God’s will, but to speak and act boldly on God’s promises. Through stories, scripture, declarations, and memorable illustrations, Copeland challenges listeners to refuse passivity, root their identity in covenant, and render faith active with persistent confession, knowing that in Christ, they are heirs to every promise—right now.
