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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Oh, what a time to be alive. What a time to be on fire for Jesus. Amen. I was thinking about, as Pastor Nancy was talking about, that I do want to hear well done instead of just, well. I don't want to leave anything on the table. Glory to God. Hallelujah. There's a Big Tom. One thing about knowing Big Tom is you can see him anywhere in the auditorium. We've been friends a long, long time. You and I are going to do this. Taking a long time together. Going to die young at an old age, praise God. Turn around and shake hands with two or three people and say, thank God for the skill of the spirit of God. You remember David Ellis. Come on, give David a hand. Almost 25 years to now we've been together. I see. There's 20. Yeah, it's 25. Yeah. Yeah. How can I say thanks for the things you have done for me? The things so undeserved yet you've done to prove your love for me? I was thinking about this song today, and I was reading in the book of Revelation, and Andre Crouch, of course, the psalmist of God, and Andre talked about a million angels. I read today about a hundred trillion angels. And they all spoke with one voice. Whoa. Dear Lord God, you know what we're going to do when we get to glory? We're going to spend a lot of years just. Ah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ah, ah, ah, ah. You see that? Oh, yeah. The voices of a million angels. My gratitude. All that I am or ever hope to be. I owe it all to thee. To God be the glory. Glory. You know it. Sing it with me. To God be the glory. To God be the glory for the things he has done. With his blood he saved me with his power he raised me To God be the glory for the things he has done. Just let me live my life Let it be pleasing mirror to me Should I gain any praise let it go to cal for me. To God be the glory. Glory to my God be the glory. To God be the glory for the things, for the things. For the things he has done. Come on, give him glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Thank you, lord. Thank you, lord. There's coming a day very soon it will be the voice of God will be calling me I'll walk the streets of glory I'm going home. The horn will blow, the angel will cry the love of God will fill the skies I'll See the face of Jesus I'm going home. But until then. I'll go oh, I'm singing Until then with joy I'll carry on until day my eyes behold my Jesus. Until the day. I'm going. Home. Thank you. All right, now that we're going to do it again on this time till we going home. Amen. There's coming a day very soon it will be the voice of God will be calling me we'll walk the streets of glory we're going home. The horn will blow the angel will cry the love of God will fill the skies we'll see the face of Jesus we're going to home. Sing it with me. But until then we'll go on singing until then with joy we carry on until the day our eyes behold that city. Oh, yeah. Our wishes today we're going get a deep breath. Father, we thank you. Tonight. The word of the living Almighty God is so rich and alive. Oh, Jesus. Thank you, sir. We give you praise. Ha ha ha. Well, you thought, saith the spirit of truth, that all this trouble and all of this mess that's happening in your country and mine. Oh, yes, this is my country. It was given to me many, many, many, many years ago. Covenants were made in the Mayflower. Covenants were made at Plymouth. Covenants were made Jamestown. But remember this, this is the only nation ever formed with the purpose of worshiping me, saith the Lord. The only one, because they love me. And I'll never forget it. I brought about the nation of Israel because I love them. This country was put together for the purpose by people who love me. You think I'm going to let some devil steal this nation? What's the matter with you? Hallelujah. I've already cast my vote, says the Lord. Long, long ago. This that you're seeing, this that is happening right before your very eyes are birth pangs to the rebirth of the United States. So give the Lord glory and say good things about him because he's coming very, very soon. Sooner than you think. No sooner than that. No, no sooner than that. No sooner than that. Cause the people in this room and the people that follow in the same class and in the same way that you live and worship me, saith the Lord, you, all of you know it's very soon. Sooner than you think. So tonight's the night to give him praise and worship him for a new nation. And once again, soon, and very soon, once again, it will be the United States of America. Not just America, saith the Lord. Hallelujah. Thank You, Lord Jesus. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Rick, you and Nettie doing good? You look good, brother. Of course, you don't look near as good as she does. Thank you, Lord. Now I've got started calling names, and I can just go all over the place. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Well, when I come to this place, I'm home, you know? I really mean it. I was telling David and Mike and I when we drove up into this parking lot. There's. There's. You know, when the spirit. There's a. There's times you go to places where the Spirit of God is and wonderful places. But there are certain places where he rests. That's the best word I can come up with. He resides there. It's tangible here. And every time we drown, I've been. How long have we been coming here? Yeah, I'd be with him. You count better than I do. Praise God. Seven years. Hey, that's a good number, but I've noticed it. And every time I drive up in this. In this. In the driveway of this facility, he's just here. I can't ever say it. I guess I've said it every time I would just. Water. Church. What a church. And it's not the. It's not the only one, but. And there are a lot of great churches and a lot of good churches and of course. And there are others that I have the same experience. But I don't know that this. This is a sweet place to me. It has a lot to do with. With Ed and. Anyway, did you bring your Bible with you tonight? That's a silly question, wasn't it? Those of you that didn't. Well, you know, look on with somebody else. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Open your Bibles with me tonight. First of all, to Ephesians, chapter two. Father, we come before your word with expectant hearts tonight. For it is the word of the living God. The Alm. The. The Almighty God. The Almighty God. We serve the Almighty God. Say that we serve the Almighty God. Say it again. We serve the Almighty God. He is the Almighty God. Say it again. He is the Almighty God. He's my God. I worship him. And my faith is in him. Thank you, Lord. And I pray again tonight, sir, one person in the sound of my voice. Go away from these services without being touched and moved. And experience the power of the Almighty God. We believe it and we receive it. And we ascribe all of the glory and all the praise. Wonderful. Magnificent. Name of Jesus. And it's in your name, sir, that I pray and I thank you. Father, for this name. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Thank you for your presence in here tonight. Thank you. Amen. Hallelujah. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Nancy, your pulpit's too slick. Now, don't mess around and turn it off. I want to be sure I preach long enough. Yeah, right. Let's see. I told you to open up the book of visas in a. All right. Ephesians, chapter two. The spirit of God will answer questions tonight. And this does go right down the line of what the Spirit said through Pastor Frame tonight. Skillful in the word of righteousness, skillful in healings. Well, Brother Copeland, I don't understand it. Well, I didn't either for a long, long time. I just don't understand it. All of these outlandish miracles in the first covenant, the first testament. And it just continued right on through the second covenant, the second Testament. Now, both words covenant and testament are very important. Very important. This is something that the translators, they knew very well that that same word is translated covenant. But they were trying to tell us something. This is the will and testament of the most high God. That's legal term. It's his will. Now, that rung the bell right there. It's his will. Well, I just don't know, Brother Goldman, whether it's God's will to heal me or not. Well, go wait in the car. No, no, no. I don't know why I said that. This is going to be one of those nights, dog. Hallelujah. But see, that, that comes from a great amount of that comes through Western thinking, Mental assent, that the Bible is true. Never act like it's true. But why is this now and that word testament? Is. Jesus of Nazareth, the only man, only one. To die. In behalf of the will of God in the first Testament, the last will and testament, the almighty God, and be raised from the dead and probate his own will. Now, I'm going to go back to days that we don't. You're well taught. And you and I don't think this way, but there are still people that do. And let me ask you this question. Well, you know, Brother Copeland, I'm. I know we'll have authority over the devil when we get to heaven. Well, what are you going to do with it? He ain't going to be there. Try to relegate everything to heaven or everything to the past. But right now, we never know what God going to do. You can tell exactly what he's going to do. He'll do exactly what he said he would do. Amen. Who is this almighty God? He's exactly who he says he is. And he can do exactly what he said he can do. And he will do exactly what he said he would do. Exactly that. Praise God. Thank you, Lord Jesus. I am the sole heir of AW And Vanetta Copeland, Aubrey Wayne Copeland. My mom and dad. I was the only child and. Oh, I don't want to get into that, but anyway. And therefore, of course, my dad had a will. It was his last will and testament. Now I'm going to ask you the stupidest question that anyone has ever asked you. Did I receive. As heir, as sole heir of AW Copeland, Did I receive that when he died or when I died? That's good. That's a good word. Well, why? Why? Why on this big round earth would I think I'm going to receive what I inherited from God when I die? Brother, that's stupid in the fast lane. You understand that? Now let me get back on what I came here to do tonight. But you understand the question that I'm answering. Why is it, please tell me that we have all of these miracles in times of both covenants. Marvelous things, earth shaking things. And you have them in Africa and you have them in other places on earth. And little to nothing here in the western world. And it's really so simple. Like Charles Capp said, this is so simple you have to have help to misunderstand it. We've had some high priced help, but I won't get into that. Ephesians, chapter 2. Look at verse 11. Wherefore remember that you being in time past Gentiles in the flesh who are called uncircumcision by that which is called the circumcision in the flesh made by hands. Now here it is. Make note. Here's the answer. At that time when before you were born again. You're not a Gentile anymore. A Gentile just simply means somebody without God at that time. Say at that time you were without Christ being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel. Here it is. And strangers from the covenants. Strangers from the covenants. Plural, both of them. Strangers from the covenants of promise. Without having no hope and without God in the world, you can be born again, baptized with the Holy Ghost. I mean speaking in tongues, believing in healing with all your heart and never get much of it. And we're losing far too many battles, far too many. This is it. Strangers from the covenants. Not covenant minded at all. No little to nothing about it. Some of you. The only covenant you ever heard about was some, you know the neighborhood covenants keep you from painting your house pink. I mean, when people think about covenants, I mean, it don't mean anything because we were not raised thinking that way. Yes, sir. What did you. Yeah. Okay, I'll use this as an illustration. Let's talk about the difference between the way the Caucasian and the African American are raised. We come from two different cultures. Yes. And by being raised, help me Lord, I know. Yes. I've had a very, very, very close friend. We were talking about this, and she looked at me, she said, kenneth, ain't no way wiping white people be that stupid. I said, oh, yeah, we just dumb, brother. Hey. 1, 2, 3, 4, bring it in the sheaves. Bring it in the sheaves. 1, 2, 3, 4. Let me tell you something. Like brother Creflo said, I don't know why y' all clap like that, but he said, I'm gonna tell you one thing, we get together, we don't miss a beat, brother. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because the mindset that was brought about from day one, for instance, generational curses, there's really no such thing. It's the way you were taught. That's a curse. One man, God bless his heart, he's in heaven today. And Joanne, if you're watching, I love you, babe, that's his widow. And my mother, oh, God bless her, she. Oh, man. My mother had a very serious spirit of fear. Her appendix ruptured on the basketball court when she was just barely 16 years old. I'm talking about 1927 now, you understand what the. In Lubbock, Texas, in 1927, in the Lubbock Sanatorium where I was later born. And you had a ruptured appendix, that's a death sentence. You just die, man. And back there then an appendix appendectomy scar was more like this. I mean, man, you know, they had. It was just no technology, hardly at all medically, of course, compared to what it is now. And the doctor didn't even bother to sew her up because she's going to die. And he just cleaned it up and just kind of put everything back in there and used cadaver clamps because she's going to die. And my grandfather impressed him to. Anyway, He said, what a full blood jerk, he would say. Anyway, he did scared the guy really bad. So he sewed her up. She just refused to die. Well, she had a death sentence hanging over and they told her she couldn't live over 10 years in that kind of condition. And she just believed God. Just believed God. Just believe God. She'd always. I mean, she's a prayer before that. I mean, she just prayed all the time. And then she just started praying. She got to pray all the family in. Got to get all them in. And then, of course, I was a big project for a long time, and she was that spirit of fear. And I remember we were at a prayer camp in Ardmore, Oklahoma. Oh, this goes way back. And Gloria and I. And Gloria's mother and my mother. Dad wasn't there. He was traveling. And it was called a CFO camp, Camp Farthest Out. And it was there at Lake Murray Lodge. And they had an auditorium there, a very nice auditorium. It was a really nice place. And then they had cabins around, and there was individual workshops. And so the fun. Oh, just, you know, just kind of delicious stuff would take place. And I wasn't in the cabin where she was, but. Oh, I'm telling you, somebody discerned that spirit in her. Now you understand. Not inner spirit. No, not in her spirit. It was in her physical body and was affecting her body mind terribly. And tell somebody. Tell you you're going to die. Every 10 years, they cast that thing out of her. And the testimony came to me that it tore her. It frightened everybody in there. That thing threw her down and tore her. And just. They thought maybe it might have. Might kill her. It was that violent. She came out of there. I want you to know that was one of the worst days Satan ever had. She was fierce, fearless. Well, the man that I'm talking about, Jimmy Hester, talking about generational curses and how they occur. Now, my mother had a prayer group every Monday night. It would get so big that you couldn't get close to my dad's house. And so then she would turn it over to somebody out of that prayer group to pastor it. And she'd wait a year or two and then start another one. Another church would come out. Well, this particular night, someone brought Jimmy over there because he had really, really heart trouble. Really, really bad. And so let me back up a second. I came into a little local motorcycle shop that I enjoyed, and Jimmy was sitting there. We rode bikes together, all that. And he was sitting there at the counter with a phone in his hand, and he saw me and he. Wait, come on. Come on in there. Now, He came into my mother's prayer group, and she saw death on him. And he was telling me about this after he got off the phone. And. My mother said, what's the matter with you? He said, well, my grandfather died with heart trouble. My granddaddy died with heart trouble. And I Got a bad heart now. Now, his mother had told him, james, you be careful. Because, you know, Hester, men don't live past their 50s. Now. They said, you know, just be careful. These are all godly people, but strangers from the covenants of promise. Now, when I sit down there next to him, here's what he told me in that motorcycle shop that day. He said, kenneth, your mother said. I said, tell me the truth about that. He said, lady, I just told you the truth. My grandfather died with a bad heart, my father died with a bad heart, and I've got a bad heart now. She said. I said, tell me the truth about that. He said, lady, he said, kenneth, she boxed my ears. He said, she hit me so hard right over both ears. She said, bless God. Isaiah 50:3. He bore your sicknesses and carried your diseases. And that's the truth about that. And he had this big grin on his face. He said, kenneth Copeland, that was my doctor on the phone, I just got through taking a physical exam. And he said, I'm healthy. My heart is in perfect condition. And he said, I just turned my 65th birthday. Glory to God. Jerry Savelle. And I helped do his homegoing, mid to late 80s. See, that's not a generational curse. No, sir. As strangers from the covenant's promise. That's right. Yes, sir. He's an alien. He had no idea. I mean, back there then, he just. Good Southern Baptist boy. He didn't know there was things that say, if you were to ask him, he'd say, yes, but that's only mental assent to the fact that it's true. But there's no action or life in it. An alien and a stranger from the covenants of promise. Glory to God. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Thank you, Lord. Now then, turn with me, please. Romans, chapter four. I'm going to talk to you tonight about God, a covenant and a contradiction. Now, as most of you know and those of you that don't, you're about to find out that I had two spiritual fathers in my life. My father in the faith is Oral Roberts. I was a student at Oral Roberts University. He was the first one to lay hands on me and the anointing of this ministry. Of course, he had no idea who I was. The anointing of this ministry came in me and on me that day. Wish I had time to tell you the story. And then now, this is my 53rd year in the ministry. I went to Oral Roberts university this month, 53 years ago. First time I was ever in the will of God in My life now, I was in the will of God when I married Gloria Jean. You understand that? Oh, yeah. And. Then I had been at ORU only a few days still. I mean, just had really started good. And I was invited to come preach over the weekend at my mom and dad's home church. Well, actually, Gloria, my home church. We were not in Fort Worth at that time, but that's where we were. The whole family of us, Gloria, me, John and Kelly, we were all baptized in water, but Pastor Harold Nichols of Grace Temple Church and Fort Worth, Texas. And so brother Harold had invited me to come preach over the weekend and glory to God. And of course we were there in mother's and dad's home there, the same place where I spent all of my years there in high school and all going there. And I said, mother, do you have any tapes to listen to or anything like that? She said, yeah, just went in there and hand me this big seven inch reel and went back there. Then we were tapeworms and whoo. Man alive. Glory be to God. This was before the days of cassettes. Now some of you kids say, a what, sweetheart? There were these things about this big and you had, you had an hour, an hour and a quarter on each side. And when it got to the end of the tape, it went flap, flap, flap, flap, flap. And you had to stop it, turn it over. Look at that sweet thing looking at me like this. Something she had never heard of. Thank God you got something better than that. I do too. Because I listen to him now on my phone. Amen. And I heard my first date by Kenneth egg now in 1986 at Rhema Bible Training Center Healing School, he preached this message. Now. You mean you're going to preach his sermon? Just as close as I can get it. Well, what are you talking about? I've been preaching his sermons now all these years. I'm not going to quit right now. I wasn't smart enough to come up with that title. If I had been, I'd have come up with it 20 years ago. No, it's just now time for it. A covenant, God. A covenant and a contradiction. Romans, chapter four, please. Verse 17. As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations before him in the King James Rev Bible. The reference before him or in the reference column. Like him. Actually it is. The before is correct. Also like him in his presence. In his presence. And if you would like to. Cross reference. That was something you can look at first. Kings 17. 1 and just make a note of that. And look at it later. As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations. Not. I'm going to. I have. I have. I've already done it. Whom he believed, Even God, who quickeneth the dead and calleth those things which be not as though they were. Now, let's go to the book of Genesis, the 17th chapter, please, to which this is referred to referring. Verse 1. When Abram was 90 years old and 9, the Lord appeared to Abram and said unto him, I am the Almighty God. That the word. The almighty God. Yes. He said, I am El Shaddai. El the Almighty. No, I am the El God Almighty. Anytime you see that word mighty is shaddai. The root word in Hebrew language to the word shaddai is referring to a woman's breast. It is. It is saying, I am the giver of life. I'm all you'll ever need. I am your nurse. I'm your life. I am the all sufficient one. And there was a time in your life when you were a little infant. Your mama was all you needed. She was everything. She fed you. She loved you. She took care of you and us. Daddy just kind of stood around and looked. We couldn't understand you, but she could. I mean, come on now, you know, John or Kelly. I say, Gloria, what did he say? She. Tell me what he said. She could understand that. That's the reason you need to be speaking in tongues. Well, I might say the wrong. Oh, shut up. You think? Let me ask you something. Did God come down on you when he was cussing? Well, he's sure not going to come down on you when you're trying your best to worship him. That's just lies of the devil and lies of the flesh. God is your El Shaddai. He's the almighty God. Say it again. I serve the Almighty God. I serve the El Shaddai. The God who's more than enough. The all sufficient God. And he's my God. Hallelujah. When Abram was 90 years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram and said unto him, I am the Almighty God. Walk before me and be thou perfect. Now don't let the word perfect throw you. It just means blameless. And I will make my covenant between me and thee and will multiply thee exceedingly. And Abram thought fell on his face and God talked with him. Two things extremely important here. He said, I will make my covenant between me and the. God had already made up his mind. Now, in the 15th chapter, It don't take time to read all of that you could absolutely, of course, do it later. But now. He said in the 15th chapter. As for me. As for me. Now look at this. As for me, think of that. As for me, in other words, you don't have to do this if you don't want to. I'll find me somebody else. But I picked you, son. Teach your children. That was his qualification, that he would teach his children. As for me, I will make my covenant between me and thee and will multiply thee exceedingly. Abram fell on his face and God talked with him. Now, here's the second thing that I want you to see. It didn't say, and Abram fell on his face and talked with God. No, no. He had better sense than that. He fell on his face and kept his mouth shut. Did you ever stop and think about the fact that all your praying and all your asking and all your telling God about everything that's going on, you didn't inform him of anything? Oh, God, they're doing this and they're doing that. Oh, God. And he just, I hope, smiled. Man. It's the night before I'm supposed to go register to Oru. And I'm thinking now, always remember, he's already working on the other side. Always say, always, El Shaddai. God, your mother is working on the other side. He's just as much female as he is male. He's referred to in the male gender because he created the man before he created the woman. It's as simple as that. I should have gotten something out of you girls with that. Anyway, so I'm just. God, what am I going to do? I told Gloria, I mean, I'm supposed to register in the morning. I don't have a dime. I don't mean I kind of don't have a dime. I was $24,000 in bad debt. Gloria said, you must borrowed money on your tricycle. If I go to school, I can't go get a job. I could go to the airport and get a job. You know, mean I'm a commercially rated pilot. I mean, I mean, I can go. Give me a job. Better go, give me a job. I ain't got time to go to school, Boy. It's me. I said, chloe, I got to find out what to do about this. Now I'm going in there and I'm going to get on my face and I'm going to pray if it takes all night long. I just slammed the bedroom door, man. I hit the floor in tongue, praying in tongues as fast and hard as I could. And I mean, just going for it. And I'm still just going, you know, about this dilemma that I'm in. And I thought, I wonder if I'd be quiet here. He'd say something to me. Now, I've never heard the audible voice of God. Well, speaking to me. That is, I heard him one time that to me, it was absolutely audible. He wasn't talking to me about me. I won't get into all that. But anyway. But it was so strong. Somebody said, you really heard it? Let me tell you something, brother. My eyebrows hurt was so powerful. He said, it's about time. Stand up on your feet. Then I stood up. I said, yes, sir? He said, it's about time. I couldn't get a word in edgewise. I sent you here, and I'll take care of you here. Then he went ahead and gave me some other instructions. Man, I came out of there and Gloria said, what happened? All night long you weren't in there 20 minutes. I said, I got my answer. Now, let me show you what I talking about. I am a commercially rated pilot. And I know I can go to that airport and get me a job. See how I'm thinking. I won't go into all the things. But anyway, I'm sitting there, and this is another thing some of you kids don't hardly understand. But I'm sitting there at Mrs. Campbell's desk. She's the registrar, and she's typing out my bill. And I don't have a time, but I got a smile on my face. I registered this morning. I said, Mrs. Campbell, may I make a collect call? Baby, you know what a collect call is? No. You have any idea about dialing direct? No. You know what a payphone is? I'm just teasing you. It's a big thing about this big. And it's got big holes at the top. One for a quarter and one for a nickel and one for a dime. And when you put the quarter in there, it goes bong. And you put the nickel in there, it goes ding. You put the dime in there and go ding. So the operator could tell how much money you're putting in there. And you didn't put a slug in there. Anyway, Dial nine, she said. And I called my dad, and he said, where are you? I said, I'm in registrar's office. He said, kenneth Eddie Matthews came. He's full gospel businessman, President of the chapter there in Fort Worth. Just came out by my office this morning and said he brought a check by here and said it's supposed to Go into your ministry. I said, praise God, Daddy. How much was paid for my fees? It paid for my books. Not new ones, paid for my books. And when I got done, I had, I don't remember, 10, 15 cents. And I'd heard Brother Hagin say this. And I thought, boy, it's come to pass for me. I said, glory to God. I just can't hardly wait till I get home. Me and Gloria are going to get us a candy bar and go broke. Yeah. Amen. I was a stranger from the covenant of the promise. Now, I didn't know there was any such thing as a covenant. Didn't know there was a promise. Anyway, I started out at the lrc, headed home and my feet stuck to the floor. They wouldn't turn loose. And I said, what is it, Lord? He said, go up to the sixth floor. Well, they had already warned students in orientation, stay off of that sixth floor. I said, lord, I can't go up there. That's the Vatican. I don't know where I got that. But anyway, I just kind of came out of it. Now remember, my dilemma was I'm a pilot with experience enough to go get a job, but if I go to school, I can't go get a job. He said, go on up there. They work for me. Well, I got in the elevator and I didn't have guts enough to do it. I just couldn't punch that sixth floor. I punched the fifth floor. Now, you know, hey, this 53 years ago, this is ORU's first graduation year. And it opened up and it is this massive empty room which is now the library and now lodging home. Of course, back then they didn't even have the books yet. And he said. I said, the sixth floor. And I remember, I'm not teasing you, man, I did not want to push that. And I just punched because, I don't know, it never. It never dawned on me, what am I going to do when I get there? One day at a time. Lord Jesus. Man, I pushed that door open. It looked like the last mile. I still didn't have a clue what I'm going to do. Of course, I'm 30 years old, so I didn't look like a student. And I got away with it. Up to that point. Gloria said I was the oldest freshman in the world. But then anyway, walked up to Ruth Rooks desk and I didn't know who she was. I said, my name's Kenneth Copeland. I just registered as a student today and I'm a qualified commercial pilot and I know this ministry has an airplane and I need all the help I can get. Thank you very much. Man, I want it out there so bad. Oral Roberts had walked up behind me and I didn't know he's there now. He's 6 3. And I felt like I'm 4ft 6. He's that much taller than me. I turned around, he said, I'm Oral Roberts. I literally did this. I'm not putting on. I went, ha, ha ha ha. He said, did I understand you say you're a commercially rated pilot? I said, yes, sir. Can you handle our airplane? I said, yes, sir. He said, two weeks ago, I started to hire a new co pilot. And the spirit of the Lord said, no, don't do it. I have a student coming that I want to have the job and you're my man. Now. He didn't say nothing about that to me when I was on the floor the night before. Why, I'll ask you this, why didn't he tell Samuel? All Samuel knew was the new king is at Jesse's house. That's all he knew. He looked at all of them. And of course, Eliab was a fine stature of a man. And he thought, surely, I mean, this is the oldest. This is my man right here. He checked out all of them. Now, so many of us would have said, now wait a minute, this is all he's got. It's got to be one of them. Well, let's just take that big one. After all, he's firstborn. He would have destroyed Israel had he done that. Because Eliab was a big talker and he was a coward. God said, I look on the heart. But Samuel said, there got to be another one around here somewhere. Has to be another one. You have any more boys? Well, you know, the runt. Not only. Not only was he the shepherd, he's red headed. The red headed one, the odd. Yeah. And what did Samuel say? This is the one. Arise and anoint him. This is the king of Israel. He knew he was there, but he had to walk by faith and not by sight. Are you still here? All right, now listen to me. As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Neither shall thy name anymore be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham. For a father of many nations. Have I made thee by being western minded, Having no idea about covenant. Life and covenant relationship in blood covenants. There's a name change now. In the 15th chapter, only the blood of animals had been shed. God said, you split that animal not in Half. But in half this way. From the back of the head down the spine and let those two halves fall. See? This is animal blood. And God walked with a burning lamp fire. Where have you heard that before? It was God himself walking in that blood. I believe. I believe that the Lord showed me that Abram saw his footprints in that blood. But Abram didn't shed any blood. Just the blood of animals. This is so important. Are you with me? I will establish my covenant between me. I'm not done with that. That name changing ceremony that h in the middle of Abram is Abraham. Abraham. Come. It is the name of God. They. Let me. I think this is the quickest way I can share it with you. What happened when you got born again? Ephesians, chapter three. I bow my knee before the Father. That may be a little loose here. Okay. Before the Almighty God. I bow my knee before El Shaddai, the almighty God, the great, all efficient God of whom the whole family in heaven and in earth is named. Hallelujah. You got born again. I want you to know there was a name changing ceremony went on in heaven. Praise God. You took his name and he took you. Yes, My brother and sister. This is real in heaven. It's real in this earth. And it has been unheard of Christian world. And even those of us that know about it, it's being a stranger to it. Talk about covenant. Yeah, blood covenant. Yeah. Well, what about the Lord's table? Well, what about it? Stand there with that cup in your hand and hadn't got a clue. Mean you're being as reverent about it as you can and it's for the healing of the nations and nothing ever happens. And I can tell you one of the reasons for that. Some people only take communion. The third Sunday of the month and don't even think about it then unless the pastor brings it up and they've got the big table moved out there where you can see it. Don't have any idea what's happening. But Jesus said, this is the new covenant in my blood. Drink it all. I'm reading from E.W. kenyon's masterpiece on the Blood Covenant. Two men wish to cut the covenant. And I want to. First of all, the root word for covenant talking about in Hebrew is to cut, suggesting an incision where blood flows. Two men wish to cut the covenant. They come together with their friends and a priest. First they exchange gifts. By this exchange of gifts, they indicate that all. Listen to me. All that one has, the other owns if necessary. After the exchange of gifts they bring a cup of wine. Now, think about Jesus. These men sitting at that table understand exactly what he's talking about. You remember he said, unless you drink my blood and eat my body, you're none of mine. Well, the people that got up and left, it was just. It was too powerful for them. They just couldn't take that. He turned around. I'm paraphrasing now. And he turned around and said, you want to go too? If you do get on, I'll get me somebody else. I'll cut the covenant with somebody else. It sounds like what he. What the Almighty God said. Let me put it this way. Sounds like what Jesus said to Abram, doesn't it? Oh, yeah. He and the Almighty God. Amen. Why is Jesus there in the first place? Because God had to have blood. Good. Yes, sir. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Listen to this. Now, an incision is made in the other man's arm. And his blood drips into the same cup. One cup. Each man drops blood. This is what happened between Jonathan and David. The wine is stirred and the bloods are mixed. Then the cup is handed to one man. He drinks part of it, then hands it to the other man and he drinks the rest of it. When they have drunk it ofttimes, they will put their wrists together so that their blood mingles. So they touch their tongues of each other's wounds. Now they've become blood brothers. And Jesus said, this is my blood of the new covenant. Drink it. And it was wine. I don't preach me happy, brother. This is what's going on between Abram and El Shaddai. The Almighty God. Say it again. He is the almighty God. I serve the Almighty God. My faith is in him. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Verse nine. No, excuse me. Verse eight. I will give unto thee and to thy seed after thee the land wherein thou art a stranger. All the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession. I will be their God. And God said to Abraham, you shall keep my covenant. Therefore you and your seed after you in their generations. This is my covenant, which you shall keep between me and you and thy seed after thee. And if you be Christ, if you be in Christ, then are you Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. The promise? You're a blood covenant partner to God. Every man child among you shall be circumcised. The first human blood. Amen. Hallelujah. Oh, we can spend a long time on that. I don't, of course, have time in this session. To do it. The first human bloodshed. Now then. In Abraham's body and in Sarah's body there was a direct contradiction to what God said. Direct contradiction. She had been barren, never had had a baby and a woman 90 years old. There's just not. And like I said, he hoped against hope. Well, there's just not much hope. And the world in common sense will tell you, well of course not. There's not any hope. We don't walk by common sense. We walk by faith. Brother Hagin brought this up. I had never thought about this. Well, yeah, I can't say that I had thought about it and talked about it, but not in just this same light. He said, How did Abraham Reconcile those two things? An irreconcilable situation. I mean Abraham's 100 years old by the time that boy was born, she's 90. How did he reconcile it? He didn't. He didn't even try. Completely and totally ignored it. Now let me remind you of something else. He didn't have anybody to lay hands on him. They wouldn't have done it in the first place. Who does that old man think he is? Hundred years old saying he's going to have father of many nations. Yeah, right. Give me a break. Let me just throw another little something in there just to sweeten this up a little bit. Isaac was born. Sarah died having had that one child, Nettie. Abraham remarried and had six more sons. This was not a one time shot here brother. 25th chapter of Genesis. He remarried and had six more sons and lived to be 175 years old. Some people come to me and say that faith stuff don't work. I got one strong Texas answer. Bull. Don't come tell me it doesn't work. It came too late for me. Amen. Consider not my own body now dead. Neither the deadness of my wife's womb, but only that which God has promised. Now another thing. He said that he was fully persuaded, fully persuaded, fully persuaded that he was able also to do it. It's not good enough to consider not. I consider not my body now 83 years old, But only that which God has promised. And in Genesis 6:3, he promised me 120 years. And I have a personal covenant with El Shaddai in the flesh. Glory to God. He asked me to do it and that's a command to me and I'm going to get there. He's going to come once first. Amen. Now that don't mean I can just live like slop. It took some changes. Everything the way you think, the way you look and see things, the way you hear things, the way you read the Word. I've fallen in love with this book again. Amen. Amen. Now you know what it's talking about. When he said in the beginning is the Word. What word? The blood covenant word of God. One of my heroes of the faith, Bishop David Oyedepo Lagos, Nigeria. He learned the power of praise. And he just praised. Till something happened. He had just prayed, they just praised. And the church just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Finally ran out of room, man. They didn't have any place to build another church, so they just went out in the jungle. Started off 500 acres, just cut out of the jungle jungle. And first time I met him in 2008, they had 2,000 acres. And he said, brother Kenneth, first of all, let me tell you what. First he said, well, he said, this is phase one. And he said phase one was US$250 million. And he said, no American money debt. And I thought, and you've been learning from me. I need to talk to you. And he said, Phase two is 250 million. We have that in the bank. Never have raised the money. He said, just let God do it. And now I go there every year. And now what is it, David? 16,000 acres. It's a city. It has become a city. A couple of banks. And he said this to me. He said, I had no trouble with the praise. I had no trouble with any of us. Said he. But he said, the money part of it is real puzzle to me because listen, that's one of the poorest places on earth. It was either the very wealthy or the very poor. And that man and his ministry started what is now called the new Nigerian middle class. Faith people. His church seats 50,000. They have five services on Sunday. He said, I read your book, the Laws of Prosperity. And I read Mama's book on the will of God for you is to prosper. And he said, I fasted and prayed and I'm seeking God. And he said, it's while I was reading Mama Gloria's book. And he said, call. It hit me. It hit me. He said, it's a covenant. It's a covenant. He looked me right in the face and he said, brother Copeland, when I read Seek Ye first the covenant kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. That is a blood back statement. And he said, the only thing now is just the doing of it. He said, I don't ever even think about it anymore. But I praise, he said, I praise and I praise and I praise and I praise until something happens. Hallelujah. Somebody shout Amen. That man's no stranger to covenant. No stranger to covenant. Now, I'm going to do my best to wrap it up with this. We'll take it in the morning. What do you consider? You cannot just consider not your own body. Well, I consider not my own body. Consider not my own body. I consider. Oh. I consider not my own body. Oh, I consider not my own body. I consider not my own body. I consider not my own body. That ain't good enough. Consider him fully persuaded. Go to the book of Hebrews. I consider not my own body. Oh, glory to God. Hebrews chapter 3, Verse one. Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling. Consider. Say, consider. I consider not my own body. Say it. I consider not my own body. I consider not the pain in my body. I consider not these hard and terrible symptoms. But I consider him. Apostle and high priest of my profession. My confession, the anointed Jesus, who was faithful to him that appointed him. He's the faithful El Shaddai in the flesh, my brother and sisters. Glory. Hallelujah. Praise God. Ha ha ha. Hallelujah. Oh. Hebrews 12:3. Let's start with the first one. Wherefore, seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight. And the sin which does so easily beset us, let us run with patience the race that set before us. Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, I consider not these symptoms. I consider not that debt. I consider it not. But I consider him who is the author and the provider and the finisher and the developer of my faith. And he's faithful. He's faithful. He's faithful. Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher or developer of my faith, who, for the joy that was set before him, endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of God. Consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself. Lest you be weary and faint in your mind. You don't lay there in the middle of the night and worry and think and worry. And you got pain, bad pain. Thank God. I've been through a lot of pain. And I stand before you tonight without a pain in my body. Because of my covenant and my Jesus and my El Shaddai. God. Just saying. God doesn't say it. He has names. The word God actually came out of German theology. God, he's Jehovah, the seven redemptive names of God. Well, you see, brother Copeland, that was just for Israel. No, that's all passed away. He is Yehovah Rapha. Hallelujah. When he said, you do those things which are right in my sight. None of these diseases that came on Egypt. Come on, you. I am the Lord that healeth thee. I am Yehovah Rapha. Hallelujah. For it to have passed away, he would have had to have changed his name. What about Yehovah Saboath, Not Sabbath Sabaoth. It's in both covenants. Oh, let me tell you something. When I get through telling you this, your goosebumps gonna double park in the little book of Malachi where they talk about the tithing. 22 times saith the Lord of hosts, Jehovah Sabaoth, Jehovah, God of the angelic armies of God. 22 times in that little book. And he said, you prove me now here with this, saith Yehovah Sabaothey the destroyer. I rebuke him. Who said that? Yehovah. And Satan speaks Hebrew. At least he understands. And he sure understood that one, because that's the same one that kicked the slats out of him before hell. Read the book of Daniel. Daniel prayed for 21 days, partial fast. And who came? Gabriel, archangel, and said David. Ah, David Daniel. Fear not, son, we heard you the first day. But. The prince of Persia, let me make it plain, Iran. Withstood me. And finally I had to call on Michael. And he took care of business. The archangel of war, Yehovah Saboth. And he's your God, and he's your father and your ministering spirit. Are they not all the angels? Are they not all ministering spirit sentences forth to minister for those who are heirs of salvation? And Yehovah Sabaoth is your father. Yehovah Saboth. Praise God. Jesus in the flesh. The Lord of hosts, Commander in chief himself. Oh, dear Lord God, I don't see how you can sit there. Oh, don't we? Yeah, me too. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Father, we thank you tonight. We praise you and thank you. Yeah, I'll do that. You remember what happened after the slaughter of the kings? Melchizedek came. Melchizedek was. Sam, you can't tell that from the. Particularly from the King James Bible. But if you study Jewish history, and in particular the Chamash and their law, they have history of all this. I mean, they've got records that go way back there. And Noah's three sons. What did God say to Noah, same thing. He said to Adam, be fruitful and multiply. Subdue the Earth, Take dominion over and have dominion over everything. Fire swims and creeps. You know the whole thing. And Ham and Japheth did the same thing Adam did. They just sloughed it off and threw it away. Not Shem. And Jesus. Is our remember now, Melchizedek Shem, after the slaughter of the kings, came and blessed Abram, saying, blessed be Abram. Now, here's the reason why. This is the reason why Westerners don't get it. The word of is in there. Blessed be Abram of the most High God, the covenant friend of God, possessor of heaven and earth. Everybody knows God's possessor of heaven and earth. He called Abram the possessor of heaven. What did he have in his hand? The bread and the wine. Glory to God. And if you're a stranger from covenant, you don't even get that. It don't even mean anything to you. And you're still standing there. And often as you do this, do it in remembrance of me. What? What remembrance? Think about it like this. Jesus figuratively took that wine. And that 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th chapters of the book of John was all right there at that final supper, the covenant supper. Here's the figure that I read from Dr. Kenyon's book. Figuratively, Jesus was dropping his blood in that wine and said, drink it. What did. He already said, if you don't eat of my body and drink of my blood, come out. Come out. Now, every time you take that communion, and you can take it every day if you want, And you just see it in your mind. He's dropped his blood in this cup, and I am drinking the blood, blood of Almighty God. I'm his and he's mine. And Jesus Christ of Nazareth is my blood brother. Hallelujah. There is a friend, capitalized capital F, that sticks closer than a brother. Yes, the King James translation goes back far enough. Goes way back to the time when covenants in Europe were very, very, very important. And in James chapter two, calling Abraham the friend of God, the word friend is capitalized. That's proper. He's a blood covenant brother to God. And Jesus said, I no longer call you servants. I call you friend. Glory be to Jesus. I call you my friend. You don't work for me anymore. We're in brothers in blood. And they just sit there. They knew exactly what. What he meant. They knew exactly what he meant. It was still so strange. This is the first time they'd ever heard the blessing Preached. They'd always heard the curse. Preached. That's always. That's all they ever heard in synagogue. They were all Orthodox Jews. But covenant is very, very, very, very real. They knew that old book. They knew the Book of Genesis. They knew the book of Leviticus that makes blood so sacred. Even the blood of animals is sacred to God because the life of the flesh is in them. And I can't find a place to quit. Oh, jesus. Stand up, please. First of all, let's just praise him and thank him. Thank him. We served the Almighty God. Oh, thank you. Our faith is in you, sir. Put both hands on your head. I call my body well I call my head well I call my brain well I call my eyes well I consider not any symptoms of sickness, disease, weakness or pain. I consider him. I consider the Lord Jesus himself who bore my sickness, carried my pain and by his stripes my body's healed. I call my body well I call my ears well I call my eyes well I call my mouth well My gums are well My tongue is well, the whole part inside and outside my face is all well I call my sinuses well I call my throat well oh my call my tonsils well I call my lungs well I call my heart well heart I call you well heart valves I call you well I call my stomach well I call my intestines well I call my liver well it's over here on the right side. I call setting. Put your hand right up here like this. I call my liver well, liver, you're well do you hear me? Liverpool. I call you well I call my thighs well I call my knees well I call my sciatic nerves well I call my feet well I call my ankles well all of my body I call well I call my back well lower back I call you well Any kind of back pain, I call you well Spinal stenosis I call you well I call you gone. I'm well hips I call you well I'm well thank God I'm well My neck is well my shoulder shoulder I call you well I call you well I call my hand well I call my wrist well I call my elbow well I do not have nor will I receive any symptoms of arthritis, joint pain of any kind I consider not symptoms. I consider them not. I consider him that bore that I consider am I El Shaddai, God in the flesh who lives on the inside of me right now. Greater is he that's in me than he that's in the world. I'm well I call my hips well all of my Body. Oh, we forgot the right arm. Right arm. I call you well. Right elbow. I call you well. Right shoulder. I call you well I'm well, I'm well I'm well I'm well I'm well, I'm well I call my body well I call my body well I call my body well I call my body well I call my body well I call my body well. Now, there's a lot of healings going on here right now online. There's a lot of healings going on. But now listen to me, listen to me. This is not a church activity. Norville Hayes, who just went home a few months ago at over 90 years old, very close friend of Brother Hagin's, very close friend of glory and my and back number of years ago now, Norval Hayes was a businessman, very successful man. And he was up in Canada and he was up on the platform. And there was a man that was in a wheelchair and just really paralyzed. And he was down front, had come down to be prayed for and so forth. And the word of the Lord came to Norville, said, tell him to call his legs straight and they'll straighten out. So there. And there was a lot of people praising God and carrying on pretty loud. So Norval went down and got down there right next to him and said, if you'll call your legs straight, they'll straighten out. I got his look there. He said, if you'll call your legs straight, they'll straighten out. He just sat there. Noah said, the Lord told told me to tell you if you'll call your legs straight, they'll straighten out. I call my legs straight. No, that's no good. Brother Hagin said he had to get down there in his ear. People were, you know. But he just got down there hollering at the guy. That's no good. Say it like you mean it. I call my legs chained. That won't work. That's no good. Say it like you mean it. I call my legs straight. That won't work. That's no good. Say it. I call my legs straight. I call my legs straight. No, that's no good. Say it loud. I call my legs straight. Now that won't work. Say it. Say it like you mean it. Say it over and over and over again. Say it loud. I call my legs straight. I call my legs straight. I call my legs straight. I call my legs straight. I call my legs straight. I call my legs straight. Brother Hagin said he started shouting that just as loud as he could, just as fast as he could for about 10 minutes and just got up and walked off. Now, I was doing this, And I've been doing it for quite a while now. And I thought, now here I'm preaching this, and I've gotten quiet about it, man. Boy, I got high behind. I call my body well. I call my body well. I call my body well. I consider not my body 83 years old. I consider only what God had promised. And I consider him that bore every symptom in my body. I consider the one who took it to hell and back. I consider the one who's my God. He's the El Shaddai God of mine. He's alive within me now. And I call my body well. I call my body well. I call my body well. Just to get loud and say it here in the church, it ain't going to do much for you. You're going to have to get to work. You get up in the middle of the night, you're laughing, saying, I call my body well. Glory to God. Hallelujah. I call my body well. Glory to God. Thank you, Jesus. I call my body well. I call my body well. And on the way back to bed, I call myself sound asleep. Now, I've. All my life, I've never slept very well. Gloria. Oh, brother. I think she goes to sleep as she's laying down. Oh, that girl can sleep. And I. Oh, thrills me to lay there and watch her sleep. But. And, but I learned long time ago that the 22nd Psalm or the 122nd Psalm, it is vain to rise up early and sit up late eating the bread of sorrows. For he gives his beloved. Sleeping, therefore, sleep is a gift. And I believe I received the heavenly gift. Therefore, by faith, I am sound asleep right now. I am fast asleep. Do you ever think about that? Why people say that he's fast asleep? Oh, fast asleep. Oh, yeah. Okay. I call myself fast asleep. Thank you, Jesus. Faith in God. God's word is. Because God is. The moment. The moment God said, you're the father of many nations, he was. Now all he had to do was believe it. But he was. I got news for you. He was before the foundation of the world. Because God is and his word is true. And the most wonderful article of the covenant is, who soever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be sozo. Saved, Healed, delivered. You know, it's really too bad we just read English because that word saved said all of that. Saved, healed, delivered. Set free from dangers. Are you glad you came tonight? Well, give the Lord another Praise Pastor we trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of defrain Ministries.
Title: God, A Covenant, And A Contradiction
Speaker: Kenneth Copeland (Guest Minister)
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Location: World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA
Date: January 4, 2020
This episode centers on the spiritual principles of covenant with God, exploring what it means to be in covenant, the contrast between human circumstances and God’s promises, and how to respond to apparent contradictions in life. Kenneth Copeland passionately teaches on these themes, weaving in personal testimony, scriptural exegesis, and practical exhortation aimed at awakening a covenant mindset in believers. The message is delivered in an encouraging, lively, and often humorous tone, with a strong emphasis on faith, confession, and the supernatural realities of God’s love and faithfulness.
“He’s exactly who He says He is, and He can do exactly what He said He can do, and He will do exactly what He said He would do—exactly that.” — Kenneth Copeland (46:24)
“Why on this big round earth would I think I’m going to receive what I inherited from God when I die? Brother, that’s stupid in the fast lane!” — Kenneth Copeland (48:15)
“That’s not a generational curse…That’s being a stranger from the covenants of promise.” — Kenneth Copeland (37:30)
“I want you to know there was a name changing ceremony went on in heaven. You took His name and He took you.” — Kenneth Copeland (80:15)
“Communion… you are drinking the blood of Almighty God. I’m His and He’s mine, and Jesus Christ of Nazareth is my blood brother.” — Kenneth Copeland (118:00)
“Faith is: I consider not my body…I consider Him who is the author and the provider and the finisher and the developer of my faith. And He’s faithful!” — Kenneth Copeland (99:30)
“You cannot just consider not your own body… but consider Him… fully persuaded.” — Kenneth Copeland (99:00)
“Don’t come tell me faith doesn’t work. It came too late for me.” — Kenneth Copeland (92:30)
Kenneth Copeland’s message, "God, A Covenant, And A Contradiction," is a stirring call to rediscover, believe, and act on the reality of God’s covenant. He urges believers not to let the contradictions of circumstance cause them to doubt God’s will, but to speak and act boldly on God’s promises. Through stories, scripture, declarations, and memorable illustrations, Copeland challenges listeners to refuse passivity, root their identity in covenant, and render faith active with persistent confession, knowing that in Christ, they are heirs to every promise—right now.