Podcast Summary: "God's Information Loop"
Dufresne Ministries Podcast | Joel & Amy Siegel | JTH Crusades 2024 | Collinsville, OK | Monday AM | October 7, 2024
Episode Overview
This Monday morning session from the JTH Crusades 2024 features Joel and Amy Siegel teaching on the powerful theme of “God’s Information Loop.” The focus is on how believers are invited into the ongoing flow of communication and revelation between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and how every Christian can access divine wisdom, guidance, and knowledge—especially through the help of the Holy Spirit and the practice of praying in tongues. With both humorous and practical illustrations, Joel and Amy emphasize living connected to God’s ongoing revelation and being transformed through it.
Key Themes and Discussion Points
Setting Expectations for the Meeting
- Joel welcomes everyone, expressing his excitement about being back in Oklahoma (00:08).
- The team expects God to move miraculously in every part of the service, not just during healing or altar calls, but even during music and offering times.
- Quote: "God’s power can bless your life and he can... give you an answer for other areas of your life and parts of your life." (03:25)
Explaining "God’s Information Loop" through John 16
- The main teaching draws from John 16:12–15, where Jesus promises the coming of the Holy Spirit who will guide into all truth.
- Joel reads the passage, noting its amplified version, and reflects on the disciples' inability to receive certain truths before the Holy Spirit’s indwelling.
- He humorously references the famous line, “You can’t handle the truth!” (from A Few Good Men) to illustrate how readiness matters for receiving revelation.
- Quote: "Just because something’s true doesn’t mean a person’s in position to see it and receive it." (06:15)
The Holy Spirit as the Truth-Giver
- The "truth-giving Spirit" gives believers the whole, full truth.
- Jesus’ statement in John 8: "the truth will make you free" is highlighted.
- There's a distinction between:
- Corporate revelation (e.g., through the New Testament, Paul’s letters) (11:50)
- Personal revelation (e.g., guidance for decisions not specifically addressed in Scripture — job, marriage, etc.) (12:49)
"Getting in the Loop" – Receiving and Participating
- The Holy Spirit draws from the Father’s all-encompassing knowledge and seeks to transmit it to each believer.
- God is omniscient (all-knowing), omnipotent (all-powerful), and omnipresent (everywhere)—and the Spirit in us constantly seeks to transmit from God’s wisdom (22:15).
- Joel frames this as being “in the loop”—not just theological but practical participation in divine communication.
- Quote: “The Holy Spirit ain’t no secret keeper. He’s a revealer. He’s a discloser. He’s going to give you... God’s secret. You can be in the know." (24:14)
- But, this “loop” requires our engagement—it is not automatic (21:13; 24:00).
Practical Engagement: Praying in Tongues
- Praying in tongues is emphasized as a key spiritual activity that tunes believers into God's communication cycle.
- Joel uses the analogy of an electrical circuit: power is always available, but the circuit must be closed (turned on) to receive the flow (34:00).
- Quote: "If you want to be in the information loop... you have to also function and come as a spirit being, not just a human being… spiritual activity connects you to that flow." (33:10)
- Amy expands on this illustration, likening prayer to being at the right table in a conversation, not just overhearing (35:35).
- When believers pray in the Spirit, they position themselves to access revelation, guidance, and “mysteries” (38:39).
Practical Application: Biblical Encouragement
- 1 Corinthians 14:2 is shared to support the practice of tongues:
- “For he that speaks in a tongue speaks not to men, but unto God… in the Spirit he speaks mysteries.” (38:39)
- Joel acknowledges that sometimes we try to figure things out in our minds but coming to God in prayer and tongues opens revelation that natural thinking cannot reach (40:50).
Action and Invitation
- Joel reassures those new to tongues or the baptism of the Holy Spirit that this gift is available today, by simple faith (45:10).
- Quote: "I'm happy, very, very glad to inform you today that you can begin this experience today… Just by faith, receive, and when we start pray in tongues, you do it boldly." (45:35)
- He urges the congregation to actively start praying in tongues, explaining that this practice brings them into that flow of revelation.
Memorable Quotes and Moments
- On Expectancy: “After these meetings and after this week, you’re just not going to be the same… I’m getting mine this week.” (03:20)
- On God’s Loop: “We have been brought into the flow, the loop of the Godhead… Can you explain that fully? Not so much, but the one who knows the full truth of this is who I’m talking about.” (21:13)
- On the Holy Spirit’s Role: “The Holy Spirit… is not the uninformed member of the Godhead… He is continually drawing from the Father and seeking to transmit to us.” (19:00)
- On Spiritual Engagement: “You have to come as a spirit being. And so the way you do that… is we engage in spiritual activity… One of the greatest… is praying in other tongues.” (34:00)
- On Praying in Tongues: “If we actually believed this… by speaking in other tongues, we can insert ourselves into a place that God’s prepared for us, that we can receive transmissions from heaven.” (43:44)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Setting Expectations & Welcome – 00:08–05:40
- Exposition of John 16 / The Truth-Giving Spirit – 05:40–15:00
- Application to Corporate & Personal Life – 12:49–21:12
- Omniscience of God / Holy Spirit’s Flow – 19:00–24:14
- The “Loop” and Engagement – 21:13–33:10
- Illustrations & Practical Application – 33:10–38:39
- Praying in Tongues / Inner Mysteries – 38:39–45:35
- Invitation for First-timers to Speak in Tongues – 45:35–47:43
- Corporate Prayer & Tongues – 47:43–64:00
- Closing Praise & Thanksgiving – 64:09–69:59
Closing and Tone
This teaching is energetic, interactive, sometimes humorous, and always encouraging. Joel and Amy Siegel mix personal anecdotes (from Hebrew school to Baptist prayer meetings) with passionate theological exhortation, aiming to demystify the supernatural and make participation in God’s revelation accessible and normal for every believer.
Final encouragement:
- The fullness of what God has is available through the Spirit, and every believer is invited to “get in the loop” today—primarily by engaging in spiritual activity, especially praying in tongues, expecting revelation, and walking in continual communion with God.
