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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Hallelujah. Well, I had a. I had something of a dealing last night that God, I saw something in a dream about the service tonight. And so we're going to go that way. And it's been very, very unique so far. Starting last night, it was a little bit different. But the Holy Ghost is about meeting the needs of the. And so anything that meets the needs of the people, we're all ready for that. And so tonight, we're going to minister to a very particular group just because of what I saw in that dream. And we'll just minister along that way. And you just stay with me. I would love to preach sermons here that I preached a hundred times before, but if he gives us something new, we'll just do it. Amen. Back in the 1970s, my husband received into his hand in 1971 the healing anointing that came into his hand, and it rewrote everything of his life. It gave him clarity of his assignment in the earth. And he saw himself at one point hanging off of a satellite and declaring, jesus is the healer. So when Brother Copeland asked us to come on his channel with a daily broadcast, we knew that it had to be called Jesus the Healer. We started it actually before that with other networks. And so we've been carrying that message. But how many of you know, in Jesus the Healer is not just physical healing. Every part of our being he paid the price for. Religion will paint the picture that God is only interested in the spiritual welfare, the spiritual life of God's people. But that is not true, because Jesus paid the price for the total man, spirit, soul, body, and materially because he was made poor, that we might be made rich. When was all that happening on the cross? And so we don't want to allow any part of our being untouched by redemption. It's all redeemed. So we shouldn't just have a spiritual life and only be interested in our spiritual life and other facets of our life and arenas of our life are struggling or falling apart. That's out of the plan of God. And God has designed help for every single arena of our life. And if we put up with things that are out of place in any arena, God will let us have that. But as we renew our minds and we find out, wait a minute, redemption covers this, too. And we're not putting up with the things that have gone on in our lives sometimes troubled homes, troubled marriages, troubled Minds, troubled relationships, troubled finances. That should be foreign in the life of the believer. I said that should be foreign in the life of the believer. Those things fill the life of the unsaved because they're under a curse. But we're not. And we've got to learn and put a demand on our covenant. Amen. Put pressure on the covenant. How do you put pressure on it? You put a demand on it. And so part of what we're going to be doing tonight, what I saw in that dream, we're going to minister because it's a very real part of what people face in life. And I wanted to tell about, of course, 1971, when that healing anointing came into my husband's hand. The church he was part of did not welcomed that flow. They didn't believe it. They did not embrace the healing message. And so he was made to feel quite unwelcome there and was pushed out of that local church that he had been born again in and raised up in. But if somebody won't go with what God is going with, and God is trying to work in you, you just have to go to the next thing God is bringing you into. Amen. And so Ed had to do that. He had to move on into the next thing God had for him. And as he obeyed God, he ended up becoming a pastor. And God spoke to him to be a pastor. He did that for eight and a half years there in Torrance, California. This was before we met and married. So this was in the 70s that he did that. And for a time, God was training him through that pastoral office. If God has called someone to be an apostle and a prophet, they will never start in those offices. It's not possible. That's right. You have to be trained in other offices for that. Either an evangelist, a teacher, or a pastor. And so God will bring you up through other offices to qualify you and prepare you for higher offices. Because the apostle and the prophet's office, they're the most powerful offices. But the pastoral office is the most important office. And the others aren't unimportant, but the ones who live with the sheep. God needs people, pastors who are faithful to train his body. And God has set up that the body of Christ be trained through the avenue of the local church. So it does matter that you have the right mindset toward the local church, because that's God's system of training. His body is in the local church. All the apostle, the prophet, the teacher and the evangelist are to have a heart for the Pastoral office, meaning this. They are to assist the pastor in his great work of caring for the sheep. Because all the other four offices, the apostle, the prophet, the teacher and the evangelist, are primary traveling ministries. But the pastor is a local man. He's staying there with the sheep and living with them. And so God was training my husband for the prophet's office by giving him a season in the pastoral office. He needed to understand what his supply in the body of Christ was. And it had to take in the understanding about the local church. So God permitted him to pastor for eight and a half years. And then when we started the church in Southern California, God had me to be the pastor. And I won't go into all of that, but I did that for 25 years. 21 of them I knew I was a pastor. 4 of them I didn't know I was the pastor yet I still fulfilled the functions of a pastor. But anyway, my husband, in the 70s, God began transitioning him into the traveling ministry, into that prophet's office that he was born for. And at a time of transition, you have to know that's the bumpy time of any season of your life. It doesn't have to be bumpy, but it's the time when things are most precarious. They can be the most. You're stepping out of one and into another and you're not full footed in either one of them. It seems during a time of transition you've got one foot in the previous and one foot where you're going to. And so you have to navigate that well. And you can look at your own life and see seasons when you had one foot in one flow and one foot in the next season that God had for you. Well, it's the same thing with ministers and ministries, but anytime there's a transition in your life, that means that's the season you are most susceptible. The enemy sees that there are these transition times are his most opportune time to cause difficulty if he can. Just because it's an opportunity for him does not mean that we have to take him up on that opportunity. So that transition time is most susceptible because you're leaving one thing and you're transitioning into another. And it's during those transition times God's always bringing you into more. He transitions you from one season to another season because he has more. If you resist that transition season, you can't move forward because you have to go through transition to go forward. We are changed from glory to glory. He's got more glory for us. But we have to embrace the changes that come with that. And if you kick against those changes, you will delay your. Your advancement. And not only that, you could miss it altogether by wanting to stay with what you know and wanting to stay with what you're comfortable with. But my husband would often say this in his preaching. In a transition time, when it's time for God to bring you into something more, that's when, of course, I say this, you're most susceptible to attacks. But during that time, you better make sure that everything, and this is what my husband would say, everything that isn't nailed down will come loose during a time of transition. If everything is not in place as it should be, if everything is not in the order it should be, that this transition time, the devil is going to target that to try to take you off course. Well, back in the. My goodness. When I was in my 30s, I remember walking through our bedroom one day, Ed had Christian television on. And he said to me one day, he said, you will be on TBN one day. And I said, I just don't see myself with Paul and Jan. Not as it's not anything negative. I just didn't see it. And I was right. And he was right. I did go on TBN, but it was TBN Russia. And that opened up 186 countries to US to bring the message. And they are the ones that contacted us. But that was something. He spoke to me in my 30s and it didn't happen until my late 50s. And he would often say to me, There is TV for you. And he said, in your ministry will grow much larger than my ministry. But how many of you know large doesn't mean more impactful always. Because the groundwork he laid enabled us to go further. You never go further because you're something wonderful. Yeah, that's right. You grow further because you're building upon the faithfulness of others who help even get where you're going. So never think that you're going to progress alone. You won't. If you try to progress alone, you will hinder your progress. You are no long Ranger. And you better recognize somebody helped you. Somebody paid a price so you wouldn't have to. Dad Hagin and Mom Hagin slept in chicken coops so that we could sleep in paid for homes. You better recognize somebody was robbed from their offerings so that we could walk in the generosity that we experience in the ministry. Amen. Brother Copeland took all kinds of hits of people accusing him and not liking him. Talking about preachers having airplanes when sinners had Them and politicians had them and businessmen had them, but the mentality was so low in the body of Christ that Brother Copeland was the point man taking the hit from all the criticism. But anyway, he just went ahead and did it and brought the body of Christ into a whole nother level of abundance in their thinking. Amen. And so just know this, I'm just pointing those few things out to say, you don't get anywhere by yourself. You need somebody who knows God better than you. And you tag on to them and you keep going further. Even Jesus did that. I said, even Jesus did that. John the Baptist came saying, repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. And when he was off the scene, that's the message that Jesus picked up. And he picked up the exact same message and said, repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. John the Baptist was a starter of that, and he needed somebody to speak those words first so that he could step into them and carry them further. Then Jesus told his 12 disciples when he sent them out two by two, he said, Go and preach, heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out devils. And he said, and preach that the kingdom of God is at hand.
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And so John the Baptist was the starter of this, that Jesus could tag on. Jesus was smart enough to tag on to what God had done previously before he showed up on the scene through John the Baptist. Right. So we see this, that your life is a tag on. If you're smart. If you're smart, you're not out trying to say, I'm going to be my own man, I'm going to win my own way. Well, you probably just not can't. You just probably can't do that. Not without somebody who has already done it first and showed you how to do it. That's exactly right. And in fact, you just can't. You're just going to have to go back to your kindergarten teacher and your first grade teacher and say thank you because you couldn't even read your Bible without them. Exactly. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Somebody even helped you read the words in front of your face. Yes, yes, that's right. Right. What's this mean? We're divinely connected together. Amen. And the devil's always wanting to interrupt that connection and try to make you feel like you can do something by yourself. But you better know you'll go further when you're hooked up. Why? Because one will put a thousand to flight, but two will 10,000 to flight multiplied results. Amen. And so in Transition. God is trying to hook you up with something more than you've ever had before. And if you see transition as an enemy, that's the way the devil wants you to see it. He wants you to think, well, I'm leaving one thing and I'm not needed anymore. And I just, you better stop that business. You better stop that business. Yeah, because the previous season holds wonderful things, but the upcoming seasons hold more. And they don't have to look like the previous seasons. And if you get rutted into thinking that every season has to look like the previous ones, you're going to miss out on God. Yeah, that's right. I remember my husband and I were sitting in the church we had started in Tulsa. We had it seated 1,000 people. It sat on 85 acres. Dad Hagin had just come and dedicated that building. And within a month later, we were sitting on the service on Sunday morning, and Ed turned to me and said, God just spoke to me. And I said, well, what did he say? He says, I want you to do me a favor, go back to Southern California and get positioned for this last day revival. And so I said, well, when are you going to tell the people? He said, today. And he got up and announced it. Why? Because he was on the momentum of what God said. Yes. When you decide that God, what God says needs to be delayed for people's feelings, God knows what he's doing. You follow him however he tells you to do it. But my husband was always ready for the next that God had. And I so loved that raw faith that was not looking for a controlled life, but looking for a led life led by the spirit of God. And so there were all kinds of things that God has directed us in through these years. And we've faced many transitions. The devil, no doubt my husband had prophesied by the Spirit and said that we would be on television one day. Now we're in over half a billion homes. Now. That means half a billion homes, not just half a billion people. That's right. There's multiple people in a home, and that's all God's doings. But that was a transition. And can you understand why the devil would have struck our family the way he did? Because of what was upcoming. The devil wanted to take this whole ministry off course. Exactly. But that was a transition time for us. When my husband transitioned to heaven, every single one of us had transition on earth.
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And we had to transition rightly or the devil's attack would have aborted what God was bringing us into. But Instead, we just put the throttle down and we just said, well, the plan of God's still intact, and here we go. And so many the FOF ministers that have been part of this ministry and prayed for us are partners that had been hooked up with us. They just said, we'll go with you. And so we had such, this fellowship of faith around us. And you have to have fellowship of faith around your life. And you have to know who it is that refreshes your faith when you're faced with something. Because if you call the wrong people at a time of transition, they could talk you out of the next thing God has for you. You have to have something. Somebody who says, I'll just move ahead with you as blindly as you go. We don't have to know it all to move ahead. Let's just keep going and let's just bump our toes along as we just say, there's an edge there. Don't go there. And this one, there's a path there. Let's go there. You have to have people who will do that and say that and help kick you along that will refresh you in the plan. But my husband would say this, that during a time of transition, anything that's not nailed down will come loose. And he said, and if you become a yoke to the anointing, that anointing will break you off. And we've seen ministers broken off, not just people in the congregation. We've seen ministers because they kicked against the next thing God was doing, and the anointing broke them off. It's dangerous. You say yes and amen to God, and you get yourself straightened up and listen. You don't know submission till you've had to walk with something you didn't agree with. If you agree, if you agree, that calls for no submission. Submission is when I don't agree. But I know that the spirit of God is in this. And I'm going to do it. I'm going to go against my flesh, I'm going to go against my mind. I'm going to go against everything I've been raised. You better know it. And I'm putting out some warnings for some people by the spirit of God. Because if you become, if you keep being a yoke to what God's doing, the anointing will break you off. It will. It surely will. And you have to agree with what God's doing, with what God's doing, doing, and submit to it, regardless of whether it hurts your feelings or not. You say, well, I don't Know what you're talking about. Well, then that's probably not for you, but for somebody. Somebody that's going to make real sense to them.
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Oh, yeah. You know, when the woman with the issue of blood touched the hem of Jesus garment, he said, somebody touched me. And the disciples were just baffled by such a statement. They said, a multitude is thronging you, but the one knew exactly who he was talking to. He knew what he meant, and she knew what he meant. The others were oblivious. So if you're oblivious, you didn't touch. Don't worry about it. Come on, that wasn't for you. That's what I mean. Amen. But my husband, he made that statement. During a time of transition, everything better be buckled down, bolted down, nailed down. Because transition will shake. It's almost. If we could paint it this way, like when a rocket is sent into space and it comes back into Earth's atmosphere. Have you ever seen video or simulations of that? It's violent as they enter back in. Why they're transitioning from no gravity into gravity. And in that, that whole thing is. And it's always good. I always appreciate something Brother Copeland said. Anytime you're flying and you feel turbulence and people get upset, I so love what Brother Copeland said. He said the airplane was built for. Was built for it. Just rest in it. Just settle down, you're all right. And those rockets, when they come back in, they come back in, in that capsule that they're landing in. That thing is a violent shaking, but it's built for that. And I want you to know the plan of God is built for transition. And the plan of God is built for people that enter or people that exit your life. It's built for that. But I know this, that the devil is going to work through the most carnal people around you. That's why you gotta rid yourself of close fellowship with those who are carnal. Because they will be an open door of the devil that he will use against your life. Amen. But my husband would say, everything better be bolted down. Now, let me tell you how I'm going a little bit different direction. We're gonna land somewhere. We're gonna land at what the dream was. We haven't gotten there yet, but I'm just following what's coming up and out. And so my husband would say that. And the way I handle ministry is that when something tries to get out of place, I'm there immediately. If something tries to get unsettled with the staff, I'm there. If something tries to get unsettled financially. I'm there on it because it's my job to see to it that everything is held in place. I don't wink my eye at it and hope it gets better. It won't get better. It won't go away. It will become something that can become a flying missile during a time of transition. If you don't deal with it and if you ignore too many problems in your family, in your business, in your marriage, with your children and pastors in your church, traveling ministers in your ministry, you ignore too many little things. They become flying missiles that you didn't even know weren't nailed down at a time of transition because they will show back up whenever you get on a commercial flight. What do they do? You have to put your carry ons up above. You have to put anything that's a small item underneath. They won't let it around the feet. Why? Because at takeoff and at landing, they want all that stuff put away so that something doesn't go flying in an untimely manner. Hit somebody, and now we got a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. They make sure because they know that at takeoff and landing things are most susceptible to moving. That's called transition times. And anything you didn't deal with in your marriage, anything you didn't deal with, anything you didn't deal with, your finances, anything you didn't deal with in your own thinking, anything you didn't deal with in your business at times of transition, all of that's going to come loose and it's going to be like flying missiles around you. And you're going to say, what's the devil doing against me? He's not doing anything. But everything you didn't do is showing up at once. Yeah, yeah. Very good. Amen. Very good. He will energize those things that are moving against you. But if you'll pay attention. And I don't know how old our church is now. My goodness, how old is it now? It was started in 91. What is that? That's 34, 35 years now. We've never had a church split. We've never been near a church split. Why? Because in following the Holy Ghost, he keeps us in front of stuff. We are not the cleanup crew for the devil's movement. In our life, he'll make us the head, not the tail. But you better pay attention and you better be bold. And you better walk in your authority. Now. Know this. I only have authority in my realm. I don't have authority in anybody else's. Therefore, I got no opinion. Pay attention to that phrase.
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My authority doesn't work anywhere outside my realm, but everything within my authority, I'm going to make sure it's in place. And people will say, oh, I'm praying for God to do something, something about that. Pastors, people, pastors say, I'm praying for God to deal with that problem in the church. Deal with that. I'm not praying for God to deal with it. He did deal with it. He gave him a pastor, and here I am. I'm going to deal with it. God had to always stop me from dealing with something, because if I saw that it was getting out of place, I'm on it. Not because I'm confrontational, because I am not a confrontational person, but I'm not going to let somebody, somebody else ruin the place. I can't leave. When I Pastor for 25 years, I can't leave it. And somebody who can come in and leave in a week is not going to ruin the place I got to live at. You're not making a mess in my church. And me saying I'm walking in love and mercy, that's stupidity. That's exactly what that is. And it's the same way in your home. Don't let somebody ruin your home. It's a place you can't leave. That's so good. That's right. Amen. I didn't mean to go. I got none of it. I got notes on the love of God sitting on my comfort. You're giving it to us. This is it. I might read them after, you know, in a minute here. But I'm trying to say transition is so important, and you better be skillful at times of transition, because that's the time you're most susceptible to the deception of the enemy and his movement. Now, transitions are something that are not to be feared. If you've already put all your luggage away, if you did what you were supposed to do, if you dealt with those children, if you dealt with that marriage, if you dealt with those finances, if you dealt with that congregation, if you dealt with that staff member, then everything's in place for transition time. But if it's not, you got to play catch up. Well, we've got help by the Holy Ghost, right? But things that had been present, that maybe were pushed down, that weren't addressed, will stay hidden and can stay hidden until transition. Transition is a revealer, and it will expose what you've permitted in your life, what you've permitted in your business, what you've permitted in your church what you permitted in your children and in your family. Transition will always show it up. Why? Because the devil's going to get involved in transition time. But what's he doing? He's looking for an open door. Now, my husband, when God was taking him from being pastor and moving him into the prophet's office to more of a traveling minister, he still was pastoring for a time. Because the thing with the transitions of God, when he brings us in, they're not hard stops and hard starts. They don't butt up against each other like this. They're more like this. They blend. They're seamless in the mind of God so that the transition can be smooth if we follow him and we don't let our emotions get involved and we don't let wrong thinking get involved, and it becomes seamless thing in the genius, in the wisdom of God. Right? But if things have not been dealt with, you can have a component that's missing. And where there's supposed to be a blend, there's a seam missing. So when my husband was exiting, and I'm getting to my point here, are you helped so far?
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You say, well, I came for healing. Well, we're going to get to that. When my husband, in the 70s, the end of the 70s, God was bringing him into the next thing, yet he wasn't out of the previous thing. Fully. Half of his family said, we're done with this. We don't want any more. We don't want any more of the ministry. We don't want any more of this. And we're leaving. He had a choice to make. Now, Jesus said, if you love your sister, your brother, your mother more than me, you're not worthy. In other words, you can love people, but they cannot ever be the one you're following. You have to follow Him. Amen. And if people ever say, choose me or God.
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Come on now, don't even shoot yourself in the head like that. Don't even. You don't ever want to choose something that's not big enough to deliver you. And the will of God and the plan of God is the only thing that satisfies life, right? It's not relationships, it's not friendships, not employment, but it's only the plan of God that will cause someone to lay down their head at night when there's turmoil and circumstances all around, but their insides are satisfied because God's pleased. Amen. So when Ed was faced with this, that half of his family said, we don't want any more of this. He had a choice to make and he just said, I'm not backing up for anybody. But there was all kinds of things that happened, all kinds of difficulties, all kinds of circumstances. And it played out for years over time, because some things weren't addressed all along the way, you see. So when this choice was made by others, Ed found himself in a place he didn't want to be in. Right. And something he didn't choose, but he was there. And the devil will take. When you are in a position, maybe you're the one that made a choice against what was best, or maybe you're linked with somebody that made that choice that affected you. What now the devil will take that time to try to paint you in a negative light in your own view. And he wants to dismantle everything one at a time. And he doesn't always try to do it all at once. He. He'll make one strike and then little by little start dismantling everything, trying to. He had gotten to such a place. I told all that. Now, my husband, he was a man of faith. I mean, he was a doer. He was a doer. And if you're going to stay with him, brother, you're going to get your knees scabbed up. The reason is, is because when I married him, I'd tell people I felt like one of those in those old cowboy movies when they tied the bad guy to the back of the horse and he just trying to get up on his feet and run to keep. I felt that way trying to keep up with the pace of my husband. He was such on the move. I felt I was drugged halfway down the street because he was a man of action, he was a man of doing. But there was something, this event that stopped him in his tracks and it stopped him from advancing and he started turning in upon himself. And that was the devil's strategy, that if he can't stop the plan, stop the man in the plan. And so it puts some things on pause in my husband's life. But I said all that to say this. This man who walked with God, knew God of a raw, robust faith and had many experiences in God, even during this transition happened in his life. It went after his. How he saw himself in God. And that's what the devil's ultimately after, how you see yourself in God. Because if you see yourself wrongly, you don't take your place rightly and you don't. Your faith is hindered, your self image is assaulted and you feel yourself Outside of righteousness, instead of made righteous. And Morgan was pointing to the announcement last night that we have our ladies and gentlemen conference coming up. Is it in what, September? In September. And several months ago, God said something to me. He said, the ladies of the Four Horsemen. And back during the 70s, my husband, Jerry Savelle, Buddy Harrison, who was dad Hagin's son in law, and then Happy Caldwell, they would do word and spirit meetings based on. They didn't call it word and spirit, but that's exactly what it was. And they would tag team. And Dr. Sumrall was so impressed by this because he said, I've never seen more unselfish ministers flow together in a service. They weren't fighting for pulpit time. They weren't trying to up one another. And he called them the four Horsemen. Well, all of them are in heaven right now except Happy Caldwell. And so God said to me several months ago, have a meeting with the ladies of the four Horsemen. And so they all agreed. And so that's what September is. And yes, men are welcome because Morgan has said she's defined our ladies meeting properly. She said that just means ladies are preaching. It doesn't just mean ladies are only. It's only ladies attending because we have our pastor's wives that come and the men come with them and they are so welcome. It doesn't matter to us. We don't do anything different than what we do in the other services. You know, it's just that's how we do it. And so these four ladies are coming. But when they were in the 70s, and this was before I met and married my husband, I only heard stories. And different ones of them would tell me stories about it. And they were in meetings in the 70s together, flowing together. And this happened during the time when my husband faced this great transition. And I did not know this until later, really, after my husband went home to be with the Lord. But we were in a meeting and Jerry Savelle was telling his side of something. Now, I knew my husband's side of it, but I didn't know Brother Jerry's side. I knew that Brother Jerry had given my husband his airplane back in the early 80s. In fact, he received that right before we met and got married. So it's no wonder that we see the divine pattern that it was. Again, the Savelle ministry used to bless this ministry with its current aircraft because God works in patterns. Now, I'm not going to hold the Savelle ministry to that, but I'm just saying you appreciate that God will repeat some things now. I heard Brother Jerry tell in a service what I had not heard before. And he was in a meeting, and Ed was going through this time of transition. And I believe it was Happy Caldwell who said he walked over and just threw his coat over Ed because Ed was in such a state. He says, I did not want to leave the house. I didn't want to be seen. He said when he announced that his home was being broken up on a Sunday morning service, by the time he got home, preachers were offering to buy his chairs, his TV equipment and everything. They were there ready to divide the spoils. And this was such an embarrassment for him that his home had fallen into this state. And so he was in the middle of all this transition. And I believe in this service, Ed wasn't preaching, but I believe, if I recall correctly, that it was Happy Caldwell who walked over and just threw his coat over him. And as a sign, we've got you covered. And you have to know, in times of transition, who are your faith friends? Who has faith words in their mouth for you? Because you need faith words. You don't need any other words that are going to bury you. And so then all four, all the other three went over and threw their car coats over on it. He was just kind of bowed over and said, before long, every man in the congregation had walked up and thrown their coat over him that the body of Christ was watching for him. You know, that he wasn't abandoned by the body. Then it was in that service God spoke to Brother Jerry and he said, ed Dufresne, I don't love him anymore. I want you to give him your airplane to show him that I still love him. So love took on action. Love took on substance. It wasn't just words. It was a doing. Yeah, that's right. But I want you to see this, knowing that my husband's fellowship with God was such as it was, that even that came under assault in his own thinking. And I want you to know that there are times in your life that people don't see themselves as they once saw themselves in God. And we're going to address that tonight and help with that. Now let's get to some love scriptures. How about that? How about that? We know this John 3:16, For God so loved who the world that he gave. Love is a giver. Love isn't just a talker. It's a giver love. Words are never enough apart from love actions. So know that talk is cheap. Actions will take something of you. And know this. If God ever has, you to take a love action towards someone. And he will. And he has no doubt. And you've probably done it many times. But notice this. If you don't love it, God doesn't want it. He will never ask you to give someone something you won't miss. And he's not going to ask you to give the cheapest thing in your household. Amen. What brother Jerry did that day gave his airplane his way of getting to the next place. And he gave it to somebody who was not seeing them rightly. Because when love actions are taken, it helps steady the view of people in the eyes of God, of how they see themselves. Humanity didn't see itself right. And God so loved the world that he gave. He gave his son. He gave the best he had to give to help correct the vision of the world. That they would see themselves as he would see them. And it was a gift to do that right? So Acts 17:28 says this. In him, we live and move and have our being. Notice this. He doesn't want to be left out of any movement of your life. Even the difficult movements, even movements he didn't offer. Even movements that were completely against his will. He'll jump right in the middle of that movement and be together with you in that movement. You don't have to make any movement apart from Him. He will join his help to you in that movement that someone, and even maybe the devil worked against you. God will put Himself right in the big middle of it. Why? Because he's in you. So he would never be apart from you. Amen. And he wants you to draw on him that you do it together. Amen. Even if you say, father, I'm out of the will of God. He'll jump right in the big middle of that place and help direct you right back into the fullness. Because he wants to live in every movement. Because sometimes we take movements apart from him and it arrives us at the wrong place. But he'll get right back in the big middle of that movement to get you right back where his plan authored for you. Amen. He's look at this. In him we live and move. Look at this and have our. Our entire being is to be affected by him working, moving. And I want you to know it's not just your body's health, but it's your mind's health. Yeah.
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I want to read to you John, chapter 15, verse 9. So many people struggle with where they missed it, what they've done wrong, where they could have done better, how they have failed. God and you get into that mental trap and the devil will energize that and people will get entrenched in that and troubled by that. But John, chapter 15, verse 9. And I want you to listen to this. Apart from your actions, apart from your performance on this earth as the Father, this is Jesus speaking. He said, as the Father has loved me with the same love, right? The same way the Father has loved Jesus. He said, so have I loved you apart from anything you've done, right or wrong.
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And then he says this. Continue you in my love, meaning this. If you're going to continue, move forward, it's on the basis that you understand love is in this with you. It's love helping you move forward. Yeah. Yeah. The living Bible translation says that verse this way, I have loved you even as the Father has loved me. Live within My love. Look at that. Live within my love. If you're going to live within his love, you're going to think of his love. You're going to talk, he loves me. You're going to think in those terms. Because transition time tries to pull you out of that place of understanding and tries to repaint you as outside of his love because of something that happened in you, against you, through you, to you. So never think of yourself outside of Him. And if you're never outside of him, you're never outside of love, no matter how much you missed it. Amen. Now, I'm not prizing and valuing missing it, but I'm saying this, that your miss is not greater than his love. And if you put more weight on where you missed it than on his love, then the devil has a foothold in you and he will not be kind to you. Another translation of that verse says, I have loved you just as my Father has loved you. So let me love you always. Look at that. Let me love you always. So when you say something different than he loves me, you're not letting him. You will sense his love for you as far as you let him. It's not him that measures it. It's you that measures it. We're not to draw back from him when we miss it. We're to run to love and say, I miss. Because love will not push back down on you. Now, in his love being in Christ, everything of him belongs to us. And can I tell you something that else belongs to someone in Christ? Corrections? That's right. Correction is a flow with the love of God. And when you come to him, he will always accept and help you. But sometimes that help Plays out as correction. Because whom the Lord loves, he corrects, he corrects. Correction is a flow of the love of God. And if God hasn't brought a correction to you, I'd wonder if you're listening to love. Because love will always be dealing with something that can be brought up higher. Amen. Another translation of that verse says, in the same way that the Father loved me, I loved you. Now live in my love. What's that mean? Every day, live mindful. The Father loves me. He loves me. Even if I faltered on my faith, he loves me. Even if I didn't pay that bill, he loves me. Even if I went the wrong direction, he loves me. And that love is not condoning that love is rescuing. It'll help bring you back into the place. And the accuser of the brethren is always trying to paint it different to us. And that's why he says, now live in my love. You can't live in something if you don't reference it. If you don't go there, if you don't partake of it. Now we know this. The Word says, draw nigh unto me, and I'll draw nigh unto you. So as closely as we walk mindful of the love of God, that's how much we'll experience it. If it's from our mind, very far from our mind, we never touch on it. We don't really think on it. We won't really. We won't even really recognize that it's there. But if we draw nigh, we get more of it. We'll sense more of his love. Because we're the ones who measure the degree of closeness and fellowship, not him. Amen. That's one thing we see about the generals, those leaders in the body of Christ, those who have a stalwart faith. You ever listen to Brother Jesse? Jesse Duplantis? Jesus show loves Jesse. He says it all the time. That's not just a catchphrase. He's building something in him. Why? Because the accuser of the brethren is always there to tell you how you missed it. And he is so quick to paint and talk about who's for him instead of the accuser that's against him. You have to talk about who's for you, and he's for you on the side of love, not on the side of condemnation, not on the side of guilt, not on the side of shame. When you talk about that, you've left the love flow. Amen. Another translation says this. I have loved you just as deeply as my Father has loved Me. So hold on to my love. Look at that. Hold on to my love. Why? Don't let it leave your mouth. Hold it in there. Why? Because the accuser, the brethren, is going to bring your past and parade it in front of you. Your mistakes, everything you did wrong. And you might say, I did it wrong, but love covered me. Love made up the difference and love rescued me. Amen. You have have to talk about what love has done and is doing for you. Now, anytime as a minister, I mean, I've faced it myself, anytime God is going to promote you, the devil is going to be there in magnified form, painting and reminding you of all your weaknesses, your faults, your failures, because he wants your faith to falter some so you don't move to the next season. And that's just part of the transition. And you better be skillful in the face of those accusations because the devil is trying to dismantle your faith. But he says, hold on to my love. What is that? That will keep you from buying into the accusations of the accuser, of the brethren, against your life. Amen. Now you think about it. There were 12 disciples that were personally trained by Jesus. There were three that were trained at a whole other level, James, John and Peter. Jesus took them aside in more intimate ways and imparted to them not because he favored them more, but because of their call. Their call needed to further instruction, further experiences. So these three were singled out by Jesus. So don't you know this, that they were singled out by the devil. And we find that in Acts, chapter 12, when it says, and Herod stretched his hands to vex certain of the church, not everybody of the church. Certain of the church. And he arrested James. He had him killed with the spirit. Saw it please the Jews. Isn't that a sad phrase? Saw it please the Jews and proceeded further to take Peter also. So what's he after? He's now had his hand on two of the three. So you know the devil's after John too. Right, all three of those. But prayer was made and Peter was rescued. And so we see the problem with James is that the church didn't pray for the first one because they weren't alone. And their not being alert cost them one of the three leaders they badly needed. So you know that the devil was after John. He's certain. But there's something about John that all the 11 were martyred, but John was not martyred. They tried, but it did not work. They put him in a boiling pot of oil. That's not, you know, the Latest skin technique for ladies. And it didn't work. And it no doubt frightened them that it didn't work. And so they just sent him to an aisle of Patmos and they sent him to a place where he could hear God at a whole nother level. And we have the book of Revelation. So John was the one who wrote the Gospel of John. He wrote first John, second John, third John, and the Book of Revelation. So he's one of the most contributing writers to the New Testament. And what you see is a theme in his letters and is how he referred to himself in the Gospel of John, the disciple whom Jesus loved. He referred to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved. You know, the devil was after him, but he could not work against him because he was so established in him that God loves me just as much as he loves Jesus. Because Jesus told us that, and he loves me. And love will not fail in the face of adversity. Love will not fail in the face of opposition. Love cannot be dismantled. And so because he had a revelation and he was vocal about how much God loved him, he was vocal about it. We have record of him being vocal about it. He said it six times during that one letter. The disciple whom Jesus loved, he wasn't saying Jesus didn't love others, but he magnified that Jesus loved him. If you want to get through every test and trial, you better magnify that heaven loves you, God loves you. Jesus loves you. The Holy Ghost loves you. In spite of every devil that hates you. There's more love for you than accusations against you. And you have to speak it, you have to say it, you have to talk about it. Amen. And I so appreciate that he established that, that he could not refer to himself without saying and without including the disciple whom Jesus loved. You know, you can hear, you know, my son Stephen will put. And he'll say something like, there's two of us talking about the brother, him and Grant. And he says, and I, you know, Jesus loves me more, or something like that. It's just something he'll tag something on that puts him a little bit above his brother in his own speech. Whether it's, you know, I'm the better looking one, or I'm the smarter one, or I'm, you know, there's that brotherly thing that they always say it, you know it's true, you know it's true. You know it's true. John didn't say that to better himself. He said that to notify hell. God loves me. You take on me and you Just took on a God who is jealous for the ones he loves. Now you better make sure you want to take on this. And when they would try to kill him, because God is love. You can't kill God. You can't kill love. So you can't kill the target of love. That was his mindset. I am infused with the love of God. And the love of God is greater for my life than your strategy for my death. He established that in him. It's not that God told him that more, but he did what Jesus said. Hold on to my love. Hold on to my love. Where are you going to hold onto it? In your mouth, in your thought life, in the way you respond, in the way you treat others. You're going to have to hold on to, to that. Because when Jesus said, hold on to my love, he lets you know what the devil's after out of your thought life. He wants to draw that out of you, that you don't see yourself as one loved. You see yourself as someone that's failed, someone who's disappointed God, someone who's not done it right. And how much of the body of Christ is embedded and entrenched in that approach and mindset and the way they conduct their daily life. And it's really an unrenewed mind. It's not a bad past, it's an unrenewed mind. It's not a failing past and bad decisions. It's an unrenewed mind. So John, constantly focused. God loves me and love will not be violated. Heaven cannot get past love because the greatest of these is love. Amen. All the powers of hell cannot conquer love's movement, love's action, life. But if he can dismantle, if the accused or the brethren can dismantle how we see ourselves, then we lay down our greatest weapon in his face. And that is God loves me and God restores me. Not because I've done everything right and God pulls me through financially, not because I've done everything right and God restores my home, not because I've done everything right, but for one reason. He loves me. He loves you. And God so loved the world that he gave his best. Well, if he loves the world that much, what will he do for his own children? What will love do for its own children? Can I tell you what love will do for its own children? Love gave the world his son, but love gave his children everything of heaven. None of heaven's off limits. We can live there before we go there. Amen. In the Gospel of John, Matthew Mark, Luke, John. That gospel John referred to and wrote of the love of God 57 times. Matthew, Mark, Luke, the three of them combined referred to love 35 times. So in his one gospel, he almost doubled the amount of times the three of them combined referred to love. What's this say? This was paramount in him. It was the pillar that everything was built upon with him was love. When you have such skill with yielding to love, flowing with love, receiving of love, faith is no issue, right? Because it works by love. You can have faith that goes nowhere if the divine love of God isn't fueling it so good. Because you can have faith apart from love. But it's stagnant, it's not moving, it's not winning anything, it's not laying up anything in your life. Love gives faith movement. And without love, the divine love of God, faith can go nowhere. No wonder John had no problem with his faith when they put him in a pot of boiling oil. Because it was love that he was occupied with at that moment. Amen. Yeah. And then in the book, the Letters First, Second and Third John, he refers to love 46 times. In the book of Revelation, he refers to it five times. So what do we see this? 57, 46, five times. It was a central theme of his life. Yet he's the only one not martyred, not an accident. Love dictated his end, not the enemy. But we have to build that in us. Establish. You need to take those verses I read to you and say them to yourself. Meditate on them. Amen. And know this. God's love for us is apart from anything we've done. You know who gets the most love around the family? The new baby. That's right. Everybody want to hold that baby. Everybody want to kiss that baby. Everybody buying that baby stuff that baby doesn't even need. And that baby can only fit in it for two weeks because it's growing out of it in two weeks. And we will spend so much to get that baby something. And that baby hasn't contributed one thing to that family. That baby didn't clean up anything. That baby earn anything. That baby didn't perform anything. That baby didn't carry anything. That baby ate it and pooped it. That's what that baby did. And sucked air and kept everybody up and hollered and cried and got its way and was self serving and demanding and all of that. And got the most love when everybody woke up the next day. That one got all the kisses, that one got all the sweet words. What is that? Because the one that belongs to you, you love, apart from performance and just apart from performance, because we belong to Him. He loves us. Yet we always attach our performance to our understanding of how much he loves us. And that's off the word. You got no word to base that on. Now, God does give rewards, and that can be attached to performance, but love is not attached to performance. And it's love that causes your faith to work. Amen. I don't know if you've been helped tonight, but we got there. But we went the long way around. And you say, well, Pastor Nancy, what was your dream? Can I tell you what my dream was? Well, before I tell you that, I can't leave out this last verse, can we go this one passage, huh?
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Well, let me read. Let me read last two verses. Last two passages. Not two verses. Two passages. Two. One for me, one for you. Acts 17:28. We know this. In him we live and move and have our being. One translation says, it is through him, him that we live and function and have our identity. That's good. I was talking. I got to do some. Four episodes. I filmed with Carolyn Savelle on Friday and with Christy Lefevre. And so we got to go out to Ms. Carolyn's home on the river. And we filmed there, and. We were talking about there. I've been a widow 12 years. Seems like it's gone so fast. Sister Carolyn, just a year, and Christy Lefevre, maybe a year and a half. So they said, we're newer at this. And I said, well, I've been there a little bit. And I said, I learned to bounce back because my identity is not connected to a title. Wife, mother, daughter. My identity is attached to something unchanging. Wife is a changing title. Mother can be an ignored title.
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Daughter can be a temporary title because my mom's in heaven. So in the eternal part, I'm a daughter. But on this earth, that position is changing. So I said, so I learned this. I never tie my identity to something changeable. I'm in Christ. That's my true identity. So therefore, whoever leaves, I'm still in Christ. Whoever's present, I'm still in Christ. And that's the unchanging and that's the eternal. You connect yourself to the eternal. Do not connect yourself and your identity to anything temporary and changeable, or you are setting the yourself up to have to dig yourself out of a hole. That's right. You're helping us. Amen. I am in Christ. And that's the only thing we are safe. Every single one of us to identify ourself in. And this is what? Acts 17:28, a translation. It is through him that we live and function and have our identity. You're not authorized to join your identity to anything else but in Him. And if you do business, owner, homeowner, what if that changes? You just now got to dig yourself out of a hole because you joined yourself to something temporary. Amen. Amen. Then another translation of that says, because we live in the presence of this God, every move we make is known to him, and we are dependent on upon him for our very being. Isn't that good? Romans 8. Now let's go to this passage, then we'll move to the next thing. Romans chapter 8, verse 32. Romans 8, 32. And I'm going to read this out of the King James Translation. Romans 8:32. He that sees spared not his own son. Listen to those words. That's so big, that's so weighty. He that spared not his own son. Listen. He could have, but he didn't. But delivered him up for us all. None of us are left out of that. How shall he not with Christ in giving us? Him also freely give us all things. If he's going to give you the best he's got, that automatically includes anything that's underneath that's not as good as him is all inclusive. He'll give us all freely. Freely, meaning it's unearned. Freely give us all things. Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? He's letting you know there's going to come opportunity. Someone's going to try to accuse you, but they're accusing you to the wrong one when they accuse you to God. Because God's already given the best he had for you. So you better not. You better know he'll never, never receive a charge against you. He won't buy into anything that the devil or anybody else says against you. Don't you buy into it. You say, but Pastor Nancy, I messed up. He knows that. But he still said this. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Because Jesus was enough for your mess up. Verse 30, 33. Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth, verse 34. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died. Yes, rather, that is risen again, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. So even if you miss it, Jesus is right there saying, father, I'm their intercessor. Forgive them asking you, forgive him I'm asking you. I'm asking you. And he's got an intercessor there pleading your case in his ear. God has Jesus in his ear, telling you, telling him you're not guilty. You have a representative in him, talking in God's ear. Verse 35. Who shall separate us? Look at this. From what? Love. Love. The devil wants to separate you from everything good, but he's really after this. Because if he separates you from love, your faith won't work. You go to believe God for something for yourself, and you turn in upon yourself, loathing yourself. Your faith won't work for yourself because it's outside of love. You have to love yourself if you want your faith to work. It's not wrong to love yourself. Amen. John said. What did John say? The disciple whom the Lord loveth, Who shall. Verse 35. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Who can get in between that? Who can get in between that? Shall tribulation or distress or persecution, or famine, or nakedness or peril or sword. As it is written, for thy sake we are killed all the day long, we are counted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him. What? Ah, it's love that gets us on the other side of these things when these things come against us. It's love that sees us through to the end. God doesn't withdraw his love. His love is for our victory in the face of these things. Yeah, absolutely. Verse 28. For I am persuaded. You better be too. You better be too. You better be. I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Let me read to you the last few verses in another translation. Suffering any one of these things is not proof that Christ does not love us. For in spite of all these things, things that oppose us, we have a decisive victory over life's difficulties through the care shown by us, by Christ, who loved us. How many times the devil will say if it weren't for you're going through this because God's mad at you, because you messed up here. You've got to suffer this defeat because you did this wrong. You've got to put up with that. But notice what this verse says. Suffering any one of these things is not proof that Christ does not love us. For in spite of all these things that oppose us, we have a decisive Victory over life's difficulties through the care shown us by Christ who loved us. You're going to have to watch this over again. You're going to have to. You're going to have to go search out love scriptures, not ones. Yes, you can search out ones of how you ought to love others. But if you don't love yourself first and you don't understand his love for you, you're not going to treat people right. You're going to always struggle with that. Yeah, yeah. So right. So good. Establish in yourself. I don't care how much you missed it. God is not mad at you. And can I tell you this? You're not a disappointment to God. Now, should we please God? We should be interested in pleasing God. But God is so easy to please. Can I tell you, he's so easy to please. He even told us how to please him. You know, some of you wives who want your husband to read your mind so that you can. He can do the right thing for you. Then you get mad if he doesn't read your mind. That's not even fair. And God's fair. He even tells you how to please him. It's faith that pleases him. How easy? How easy is that? I believe that he says what he means, and he means what he says. And God's pleased. Hallelujah. Well, you ready to hear what I had the dream about? Okay. David says yes, please. I had a dream and I saw people devastated, heartbroken and disappointed with themselves and their own lives because of divorces you've gone through. And I want you to know God is here to minister to you, to let you know whatever your part is or whatever your part wasn't. Love makes up all the difference in our love. In God's love for us. We correct what we need to correct. We don't act like if we don't need to make corrections. But the love of God helps us to make those corrections. And it's the love of God that we do these things together. That's right, Father. I need to make that correction. I look to you to help me make that correction. And love will do it with you. Amen. God is not mad at you. Pastor Craig Field put a billboard up in his city. And what did that billboard say? You remember? It was like 10 billboards. I'm not sure which it was. Okay, I remember he just said this. God's not mad at you. Remember that one? So like I was saying like that in the sermon, Would that have pulled your. I thought that might have jogged your Memory A little bit. That's okay. Pastor Craig, you flew in from Canada. I understand you've had a long day. You've had a long day. I'm teasing. I'm teasing. But he said he had this big billboard. I saw it. God's not mad at you. And he said, you wouldn't believe the number of people, Christians, that called him, even pastors, and chewed him out for saying, how dare you say God is not mad at people. But God so loved people when they didn't even know he loved them. That's right. And I want you to know you belong to him, mess ups and all because you have a savior to straighten it all out. Yeah. Yeah. And it can look very tangled on your side, but it's very simple. On his side, you think, oh, my goodness. There's so many layers of complications and things that have gone wrong and people that are involved and it looks so complicated. Not for him, it's not. Everything is so simple for him. And it's so simple for love to accomplish it. Yes, it is. Amen. And what did Ms. Reba talk about? Every night she pegs into my sermon. And what did she talk about? The covenant. Of what? Shalom. Which is what? Nothing missing, nothing broken. And that's what God will perform for anybody tonight. Who says, I feel like something's missing because something's broken. Well, God has help for you. When my husband went through that divorce years ago, Brother Norville Hayes had been there. He had gone through a divorce. His wife didn't want to serve God. And Brother Norville said to my husband, he said, ed, you have to pray in tongues to get the hurt out. If you don't, the hurt will kill you. He said, I've seen too many die prematurely because they didn't get the hurt out. And. And it opened the door for sickness and disease upon their life. No, it wasn't God's judgment. It was that hurt undealt with caused other problems. And he said, you've got to pray in the Holy Ghost and get it out. You can't talk it out. You can't think it out. Why? Because the more you talk talk it out, the more you let it in. Because that's the soulish arena. God is not helping us through the soulish arena. He's helping us through the spirit arena. And that help will affect our soul, but it will not come through the soulish arena. It comes through the spirit arena. And so when you employ the divine helper, the Holy Ghost, he will help remove all the hurt, all the remnants. All the things connected to anything with that relationship. Because God doesn't want you to ever have one sad day, no matter what someone else chooses. Amen. Amen. That's right. Amen. Before I met and married my husband, I was in a relationship I shouldn't have been in. It was an abusive situation. I never seen a mess like that. I wasn't around people like that. But the words were far more damaging than the physical because the words lived with you. The words went down into you and they talked to you and they kept repeating themselves. But I locked myself up. I didn't know to do this. I was just unconsciously led by the Spirit of God. And I locked myself up for three weeks and prayed all day in the Holy Ghost. For three weeks. I would take an hour first of all and worship God. Then I'd take an hour and feed on the Word and then the next four to more hours I'd pray in the Holy Ghost. At the end of three weeks, every remnant of that was gone. It was like it happened to somebody completely different because the Holy Ghost became a divine vacuum and sucked every out. I didn't have to talk it out. I didn't have to work it out. I didn't have to cry it out. It came out by divine assistance because love was at work in me. Amen. Amen. Stand, if you would, with me tonight. Because sometimes people have been facing things for so long, they get entrenched in something and they go, I want out, but I don't know how to get out. And we can give you a jump start. Amen. There's divine help for you that you don't have to go through this long drawn out process. The world will tell you and people that live. Can I tell you this? Most Christians are practiced at living out of their soul, souls, not other spirits. And they're trying to help you. But many times they give you counsel that's out of the soul. And it's not going to be lasting help. It's going to only entrench people. But the things I've ministered tonight, there are things for your spirit. Amen. And we'll deal with these things by the Spirit of God, by the anointing of God. Remember what Jesus said that he said he sent me to heal the brokenhearted. He was anointed to heal the brokenhearted. And that same anointing is present in the room tonight to heal the brokenhearted. That you can walk out of here and the broken heart's done. We're not going through A process of getting it done. It's done because it only takes a moment for the anointing to accomplish God's work. Amen. Hallelujah. Let's just lift up our hands and worship the Lord. Whatever you want to do, David.
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You know, in that song is one important revelation. It's not your feelings tell you so, not circumstances might not even tell you so. But you believe the love of God because of what he says. And we read what he says tonight and we hold on to that love. Amen. We hold fast to it that we are loved, and we establish that in us. So I want us to do this. I'm going to open it up for more than what I saw, but I'm especially going to open it up for what I saw. If you've gone through a divorce and there's still so much connected that's tripping you up. Now, listen, if you're past it, that's great, be past it. This line's not for you. But you say, I need help. I need the faith of others joined with me to get me past this place. I've been lingering in too long because anything longer than a moment's too long. Right? So if that's you, I want you to come on up here and we'll minister to you. Hallelujah.
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Yes, Jesus loves me. The Bible tells me so. Jesus, love. Me yes, Jesus loves me. The B tells me so.
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Let me tell you one way the devil works that when situations reach a difficult place, he'll send evil spirits to trouble that even further to where it gets exaggerated and it feels overwhelming. And many times that's what you're dealing with. You're not dealing with the situation. You're dealing with devils that are troubling you in that situation. Amen. But we have authority over that. I said we have authority over that. Sometimes people deal with, well, somebody left me. They don't want me. You know what? Somebody out there wants you. And don't ever believe for God. Can I say that? How do you say this nicely? Thank you, Pastor. If somebody doesn't to want you, I don't want God to have to make them want me. Amen. I want somebody who wants me because they want me, not because heaven had to move on them. I'm not telling you you what to believe for or not to believe for, but I'm just saying hallelujah. Congregation, doesn't it matter to us that they walk out of this in perfect peace? Because I know devils will trouble situations and he will exaggerate them in your thinking, he'll exaggerate them in your life and they'll become so much bigger. But the devil is defeated. And the love of God, I don't care what your part was or what your part wasn't in that situation. That does not alter the love of God for you. And love will show you what to do. Amen. Congregation, reach out toward these with your faith. Father, we thank you that the anointing that Jesus ministered in is upon us. That you heal the brokenhearted. And that does not take but a moment. The anointing breaks the yoke, destroys the yoke. And we receive of the love of God. We receive in Jesus name Be free from that in Jesus Be free from that in Jesus name and may they sense God's love. Be free from that in Jesus name Be free from that in Jesus name In love, I say to you a life rewritten A life rewritten better than than what you ever dreamed of for yourself. Be free from that in Jesus name Be free from that in Jesus name Be free from that in Jesus name Be free from that in Jesus name yeah, be free from that Every bit. Every bit. Every bit. Every bit. Every bit, Every bit. Because what God thinks of you means more than what anybody else thinks of you. And he thinks love thoughts. He thinks love thoughts. Thank you, father. Come here, Ms. Re. You stay with her. Thank you, Father. Free from. Oh, there. There's that anointing that destroys every yolk. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Yes, jesus loves me. Yes, jesus loves me me yes, jesus loves me.
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Jesus never go there. There goes that anointing. Be free in Jesus name There goes that anointing in you. They're waiting here. Be free from that Be free from that in Jesus. Name Be free.
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Jesus loves me. Yes, Jesus loves me. Love God. Bible tells me so.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Now let me give you a prescription with that. That means your conversation has to be different. That means you can't call up the family members and hash and rehash, talk and retalk. Your conversation now has to take on a new focus. The love of God is working in my situation. The love of God is putting my home where heaven has for my home to be. The love of God is fixing everything that went wrong. The love of God is at work. The love of God. Listen, if the love of God can save the world, the love of God can fix your life. You understand that? Hallelujah. There's no greater power than love. The greatest of these is love is what the Word says right now. I wanted to especially get to those. But for anybody else, it might not have been a broken marriage, a broken home. Sometimes it is a myriad of other things. It could be a lost business, it could be something of a dream that was lost. But it becomes a stopping place for you that you just can't seem to get past. You're entrenched in that wrong place. If that would be you, raise your hand. Hand and let me see how many. I'd be referring to those of you with your hands raised. Come on up. Come on up here. There's disappointments that can try to lodge in you and it becomes a stopping place. But there's help for you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Thank you, Father.
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We are too. We are changed. There is glory, there is grace. God is in this place. God is in this place. Praise God is in this place. Can you see? We are free from that. There is glory there is free from there. God is free from this place. All seven.
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Your. Free from that. Move on past that. Free from free. Free from it. To the past. Free from that. Free from that. In jesus name.
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Jehovah Jireh will provide God almighty source of peace. All sufficient royal Jesus. No.
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Be free from that. Be free from that. Be free from that.
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Praise this place. Heart are here we are. God is in this place.
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Now for everyone, especially those who were ministered to. I would encourage you as you fall off to sleep at night, spend time in the presence of God. You get in his presence. Presence that fixes everything. Nothing is taken to him and it stays messed up. Just spend time, make that a focus. Day after day. Start your morning, end your day. Keep your heart turned toward him. But it's in the presence of God. It's not in the presence of the memory of what's happened, what has been lost, what the struggle has been. You have to get your attention on something that can deliver you. And it's his presence that keeps you safe. You can sense the anointing of God. You can sense the presence of God in this place. But it's to be your companion. Every day you draw nigh unto him. He'll draw nine to You. But if you draw nine to your problem, your problem will draw nigh to you. So you're authorized to not think about it anymore. I give you permission. Don't think about it anymore. Amen. You're authorized to be done with it. There may be some distinction, decisions you have to make in line with it, but the presence of God will make that clear to you. You won't arrive at the knowing of what to do by figuring it out, but just by being with the one who knows. Amen. So your whole assignment. Spend time in the presence of God and let love rebuild some things, Let love establish some things, let love clarify some things, and let love corrects some things. Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Well, as Morgan said, we'll lay hands on anyone who needs healing on Thursday night. But if tonight is your last night, and you came especially to have hands laid on you for healing, we don't want to leave the room without doing that. So if that's you tonight, raise your hand and let me see who would say I, this is my last night that I can come. Come on up here if you would. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. If that's you, come up here if that's your last, if tonight's your last night that you can make it. Hallelujah. Because we want to minister to you. Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord.
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What is it that's the matter with you? Several things that need fixings of hearing and several things. Father, we thank you. Not just healing, but wholeness in Jesus name. From the top of his head to the soles of his feet. We thank you for that healing and on to going in. What about you? Love. My toes. Father, we thank you. All of it made whole in Jesus name. All of it made whole in Jesus name. All of it made whole. Be whole in his name. Be whole in his name. There it goes. In your love. Be whole in his name. Thank you, Father. Thank you. Thank you. Behold, in his name. We thank you, Father. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Sickness must go. Stand on his word. The work has been done. You're already here, Already here. You are made whole. Mention his name. Sickness must know. Stand on his word. Stand. The work has been done. You're already here. You already here. You are made whole. Mention his name.
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Sickness must go.
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Stand on his word. The work has been done. You're already here.
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If any thought, anything that comes to you does not arrive you at joy and peace, resist it. If it's not peace and it's not joy, we don't have any part of it. Amen. You're authorized to never lack peace again. Never be outside of joy again. Amen. Anything that's troubling has no part with you, no place with you. Don't put up with it. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Those of you who had hands laid on you for healing, do something you couldn't do. Move something you couldn't move. Act on that, because that power is working in you. We're not checking to see if it worked, but we're giving action to that anointing because faith is an act. Amen. Do something you could not do. Hallelujah. And keep doing it every day. And keep doing it every day. Hallelujah. Morgan, you want to come, love? How about we just lift our hands and say, thank you, Jesus. Jesus, thank you for helping us. Thank you for helping us. Thank you for helping us. We give you thanks for it. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings. Share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Pastor Nancy Dufresne delivers a Spirit-led message centering on the theme of God’s unchanging, unconditional love—especially for those walking through seasons of transition, pain, or recovery from broken relationships. Drawing on personal testimony, experience, and scripture, Nancy guides the congregation in understanding how to grasp, apply, and rest in God’s love, regardless of circumstances or personal shortcomings. A particular focus is given to healing from the pain of divorce and disappointments, culminating in a time of ministry and prayer for freedom and restoration.
Shares Ed Dufresne’s journey of receiving and stepping into a healing ministry and the cost of obedience.
Details the necessity of training and preparation for higher spiritual offices, especially the value of the local church and pastoral role.
Teaches that transitions can feel precarious but are God’s way of moving us into “more.”
Warns of the devil’s attacks during transitional seasons and the importance of “bolting down” unresolved issues.
Emphasizes the critical role of faith partnerships—having faith-filled friends during times of change.
"If you call the wrong people at a time of transition, they could talk you out of the next thing God has for you." (17:45)
Stresses that seasons of change expose what’s been neglected—personally, relationally, financially.
Shares personal stories of major ministry moves, how quick obedience opened doors, and how resistance can delay or derail destiny.
“Transition will always show it up. Why? Because the devil’s going to get involved in transition time. But what’s he doing? He’s looking for an open door.” (25:34)
Tells the detailed story of Ed Dufresne’s struggle after a painful transition and divorce—how the enemy tries to attack believers’ perception of their standing in God.
The purpose of the enemy’s attack is to undermine faith by causing believers to see themselves as disqualified or unloved.
“What the devil's ultimately after [is] how you see yourself in God. Because if you see yourself wrongly, you don't take your place rightly and...your faith is hindered.” (31:10)
Examines John 15:9, Romans 8:32–39, Acts 17:28, and more, unpacking the following:
Highlights the importance of living “within His love,” especially in times of failure, disappointment, or accusation.
“If you put more weight on where you missed it than on His love, then the devil has a foothold in you.” (46:52)
Key example from the apostle John, who repeatedly calls himself “the disciple whom Jesus loved,” showing his unbreakable confidence in God’s love protected him (he was never martyred).
“You can't talk it out. You can't think it out...because the more you talk it out, the more you let it in. Because that's the soulish arena. God is not helping us through the soulish arena; he's helping us through the spirit arena.” (97:01)
Change your speech—stop rehashing pain, start declaring God's love and restorative work.
Spend intentional time in God’s presence morning and night, focusing on Him, not problems.
Practice letting go of thoughts that don’t bring peace or joy.
“If any thought...does not arrive you at joy and peace, resist it. If it's not peace and it's not joy, we don't have any part of it.” (108:06)
On Transition and Resistance:
“If you kick against those changes, you will delay your advancement…You could miss it altogether by wanting to stay with what you know and wanting to stay with what you’re comfortable with.” (13:15)
On Community and Spiritual Partnerships:
“You never go further because you’re something wonderful...You grow further because you’re building upon the faithfulness of others…” (11:55)
On Identity:
“Never tie my identity to something changeable. I’m in Christ. That’s my true identity.” (68:24)
On God’s Love:
“Never think of yourself outside of Him. And if you’re never outside of Him, you’re never outside of love, no matter how much you missed it....your miss is not greater than his love.” (47:20)
On God’s Love’s Practicality:
“Love gives faith movement…Without love, the divine love of God, faith can go nowhere.” (62:25)
On Restitution Following Loss:
“If the love of God can save the world, the love of God can fix your life. You understand that?” (95:22)
On Healing the Brokenhearted:
“The anointing breaks the yoke, destroys the yoke. And we receive of the love of God…In love, I say to you: a life rewritten. A life rewritten better than what you ever dreamed of for yourself.” (91:54–92:40)
| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|----------------| | Opening—Spirit-led direction | 00:00–02:30 | | Redemption for every part of life | 03:00–06:00 | | Lessons from Ed Dufresne’s ministry journey | 07:00–12:00 | | Transitions and spiritual vulnerability | 13:00–18:00 | | “Everything not nailed down comes loose” | 15:10–16:10 | | Importance of mentors and partnership | 11:50–13:40 | | Identity rooted in Christ, not roles | 66:32–69:00 | | John, “the disciple whom Jesus loved” | 54:30–60:00 | | Romans 8 and God’s gift of Jesus | 68:24–73:50 | | Ministry time: healing for the brokenhearted | 86:17–101:00 | | Prescription for lasting healing | 95:03–101:35 | | Encouragement and closing remarks | 108:06–108:50 |
Nancy Dufresne’s message affirms that the greatest force in the believer’s life is the unchanging love of God, available and active in every moment—especially in pain, transitions, failures, and new beginnings. She urges listeners to allow love to heal disappointments, let go of past hurts, and step boldly into their destinies, confident in this truth: you are loved fully and always, and nothing can separate you from the love of God in Christ Jesus.
Memorable Closing
“If the love of God can save the world, the love of God can fix your life… There’s no greater power than love. The greatest of these is love.” (95:22)
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