Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Healing School #12 | The Woman With The Issue Of Blood, Part Two
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Date: May 27, 2021

Overview of the Episode

This episode continues the “Healing School” series by focusing on the account of the woman with the issue of blood, as recorded in Mark chapter 5. Pastor Nancy Dufresne breaks down the passage in depth, extracting practical principles about faith, healing, and the personal responsibility of believers to act on what they believe. The episode emphasizes the power and necessity of faith-filled action, releasing faith through words and deeds, and maintaining peace to keep one's healing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Context and Scripture Reading (00:09–04:48)

• Pastor Nancy reads Mark 5:22–34 from the Amplified translation, setting the scene with Jairus, Jesus, and the woman with the issue of blood.
• She explains the social and religious context:
  • The woman's illness and isolation under Jewish law
  • The danger she risked by appearing in public, especially with the synagogue ruler present

Quote (Nancy Dufresne, 03:23):
"She put her life at risk to even go find Jesus. So you can understand the wording here that when Jesus said, 'Who touched me?' She wasn't quick to step up. Not because she didn't believe, but because she knew she was in a public place she was not supposed to be."

The Woman’s Persistent Faith (04:49–09:30)

• The woman endured much suffering, spent all she had; she was proactive and persistent.
• Key faith principle: Faith doesn’t settle for what it shouldn’t have.
• Even though physicians meant well, only Jesus had the answer.
• Her miracle began when she heard “the reports concerning Jesus.”

Quote (Nancy Dufresne, 09:02):
"Nothing gives you hope like knowing what Jesus will do for you. She heard the reports. Now, see, she hadn't seen Jesus. She hadn't heard a sermon of his. She just heard somebody talking."

The Testimony and Its Power (09:31–11:05)

• The importance of sharing testimonies—someone else’s sharing led to her faith.
• Faith is a choice upon hearing: “She heard it and she believed it. She chose to believe.”
• Belief alone wasn’t sufficient—she accompanied it with action.

Faith Must Be Released Through Action and Words (11:06–18:44)

• Key teaching: Faith comes by hearing but is released by what you say and do. Merely hearing is not enough.
• The woman’s actions—getting up, leaving home, pressing through the crowd—demonstrated her faith.
• Personal application: Act on what you believe (e.g., attend church, seek prayer).

Quote (Nancy Dufresne, 18:07):
"Faith comes by hearing, but faith is not released by hearing. For your faith to benefit you, you have to release it. That means you have to act on what you hear."

Power of Speaking to Yourself (18:45–21:08)

• The woman “kept saying to herself” what would happen if she touched Jesus’s garment.
• Confessing the Word to oneself is as vital as speaking to others.
• Watch the confession in private; don’t undermine faith by silent worry or doubt after public declarations.

Quote (Nancy Dufresne, 19:47):
"What you say to yourself is every bit as important as what you say to somebody else. We can't speak words of faith to others, then entertain thoughts of doubt to ourself and think that we're going to have strong faith."

Divine Order: Say, Then Feel (21:09–24:03)

• Faith speaks before feeling or seeing any change.
• Many reverse the order—waiting to feel something before declaring faith.
• Example: Power, like X-rays at the dentist, is often unfelt yet still effective.

Memorable Analogy (Nancy Dufresne, 22:36):
"I recently went to the dentist…they take X-rays. You don't feel anything, but it’s still power and it’s still working…Just because it's unfelt doesn't mean it's less powerful. Amen."

God’s Power Is Always Present (24:04–27:11)

• Citing Kenneth Hagin, she relays what Jesus told him: There is enough power in every sick room to heal, because the Holy Spirit is present everywhere.
• Two conditions: You must know the power is present and give it action.

Quote (Nancy Dufresne, 25:28):
"There's power present in every room. And if you're born again, there's power enough present in you to heal you. Why? Because the healer's in you."

Personal Testimony (25:47–27:11)

• Pastor Nancy shares a testimony from her own life: her infant son was hospitalized, but she acted on the Word and spoke faith, and the symptoms cleared before the doctor arrived.

Quote (Nancy Dufresne, 26:56):
"I didn't feel anything, but I got the result. Amen. The power of God did the work."

Maintaining Healing: The Role of Peace (27:12–27:41)

• Jesus tells the woman, “Go into peace and be continually healed…” (Mark 5:34).
• Maintaining peace (refusing fear and worry) is key to keeping healing—losing peace can open the door to sickness.

Quote (Nancy Dufresne, 27:30):
"If you worry, you open the door to the devil to attack you. But if you stay in peace…you keep the door shut to the devil, and he cannot rob your health from you."

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:09–04:48 | Reading and expounding Mark 5:22–34; setting the biblical context
• 04:49–09:30 | Discussion on the woman’s suffering, risk, and the power of testimony
• 09:31–11:05 | The importance of testimonies and choosing to believe
• 11:06–18:44 | Faith is more than belief; it is released by action and declaration
• 18:45–21:08 | The importance of self-talk and faith confessions
• 21:09–24:03 | Feeling vs. faith, and the analogy of unseen power
• 24:04–27:11 | God's power is always present; personal testimony of healing
• 27:12–27:41 | Final principles: keep your peace to keep your healing

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• "Faith doesn’t settle for what it shouldn’t have." (Nancy Dufresne, 05:55)
• "She heard it and she believed it. She chose to believe." (Nancy Dufresne, 09:11)
• "Faith comes by hearing, but faith is not released by hearing. For your faith to benefit you, you have to release it." (Nancy Dufresne, 18:07)
• "What you say to yourself is every bit as important as what you say to somebody else." (Nancy Dufresne, 19:47)
• "I didn't feel anything, but I got the result. Amen. The power of God did the work." (Nancy Dufresne, 26:56)
• "Protect your peace...in protecting your peace, you protect your health." (Nancy Dufresne, 27:23)

Summary of Tone and Style

Pastor Nancy’s delivery is warm, practical, and filled with encouragement. She uses relatable analogies and personal stories, maintaining a conversational and faith-building atmosphere. The teaching is direct and rooted in scripture, with an emphasis on practical steps and personal responsibility in living the life of faith and receiving from God.

This episode is valuable for listeners seeking a deeper, real-world understanding of faith and healing. It offers actionable steps—hearing, speaking, acting, and maintaining peace—to experience and keep God’s healing power.