Episode Overview
Theme:
This episode of the Dufresne Ministries Podcast’s Healing School series, hosted by Pastor Nancy Dufresne, explores the biblical account of the Blind Man of Bethsaida (Mark 8:22-26) and the spiritual principles behind receiving and ministering divine healing. The teaching emphasizes the importance of hearing the Word, faith-filled environments, and Jesus’s unwavering willingness to heal. Nancy addresses not only how healing was ministered in Jesus’s earthly ministry, but how believers today can position themselves and others to receive healing.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Mandate for Healing (00:00–04:30)
- Nancy stresses that healing is not just for ministers:
“Every Christian should be able to teach, proclaim in the preaching. They should be able to lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.” (01:55) - There are 19 individual healings recorded in Jesus’s ministry. Studying these reveals “everything we need to know about receiving healing for ourselves and ministering healing to someone else.” (02:40)
- Becoming skillful in healing:
“It’s not enough to know that healing belongs to us. We have to become skillful with it.” (03:15)
The Importance of Hearing Precedes Healing (04:30–10:30)
- Nancy draws from Luke 5:15 to highlight a principle:
“It did not say that these crowds came to be healed. It says they came to hear and be healed.” (05:10) - The connection between hearing and healing:
“Our healing is in our hearing. Our healing is connected to our hearing. … Hearing positions us for healing.” (06:20) - Hearing specific truths about healing and faith is essential: “Don’t just take time to hear any truth of the Word. Take time to hear healing truths. … Because what you hear is what you’re going to have faith for.” (08:15)
Hearing as Preparation, Not Earning (06:35–08:10)
- Nancy addresses the misconception of “earning” healing:
“We’re not earning these things, but we do have to be receptive to the power of God. We have to cooperate.” (06:50) - It’s crucial to “know how God functions, how He moves,” so we’re cooperating rather than resisting.
The Environmental Factor: Where You Are Matters (10:30–18:20)
- Key example from Mark 8:
Nancy reads the passage about the Blind Man of Bethsaida and notes that others’ faith, compassion, and action contributed to this man’s opportunity to receive healing. (11:45) - People brought the blind man, demonstrating that sometimes healing comes with help:
“A blind man can’t see for himself where he’s going without assistance. … He must have agreed that Jesus must be a healer or he would not have allowed himself to be led.” (13:10)
Compassion, Faith, and Support (14:00–16:00)
- Contrasts the group assisting this blind man with Bartimaeus, who “had no one helping him… the crowd told him to shut up and be quiet. What’s that? No compassion.”
- Lesson:
“It matters that we have compassion for people who don’t know what we know, don’t see what we see. … when we see some things spiritually, we need to lead people who don’t see toward the light that we have.” (15:20)
Jesus Leads the Man Out of the Village (17:00–22:00)
- Jesus separates the man from the crowd and leads him out of Bethsaida.
“[Anyone] who comes to him expectantly, he always takes on the case. He’ll never tell you no, he’ll never tell you later, he’ll never say, not now, he’ll never say, not you.” (18:00) - Why lead him out?
Background from Matthew 11: Jesus had already pronounced judgment on Bethsaida, Chorazin, and Capernaum for their unbelief. Because of their rejection, “nothing more could be worked” there. (22:35) - Principle: sometimes you have to leave an unbelieving environment to receive from God.
Faith Atmospheres: Cities, Churches, and Households (22:00–30:00)
- “There are some places where people evidently can’t receive healing, not because of God, but because of people.” (25:10)
- God moves people to places where they can receive: “He will lead you out of that region … not because He’s against the church, but because He wants you healed.” (27:45)
- Households, churches, and even cities can reject God’s healing power if they refuse to accept it.
God’s Mercy and the Necessity of Acceptance (30:00–34:00)
- “How great is Jesus’s mercy that He knew Bethsaida was not a community that would receive Him… and His mercy was so great to this blind man: Come on, let’s go outside the city limits and we’ll still get it to you. Isn’t that mercy?” (31:00)
- Healing is for everyone, but must be accepted:
“Divine healing is a truth of the Word. It has to be accepted. It won’t just function and flow because it belongs to us. It has to be accepted.” (33:15)
Keep Preaching and Feeding on Truth (34:00–37:00)
- Nancy quotes another minister:
“If you haven’t received your healing, you’ve been believing God and you haven’t received your healing… keep preaching healing because just because you haven’t received doesn’t mean others can’t receive.” (35:30) - “The truth is the truth, no matter what.” (36:00)
The Example of Jairus’s Daughter: Removing Hindrance (37:00–40:00)
- Jesus changed the atmosphere when Jairus’s daughter died:
“He dismisses all the weepers and all the wailers and He puts them out of the house. Why? Because He’s there to answer the faith of one man… these people would hinder Him answering Jairus’s faith.” (38:10) - Application: Protect your faith environment; sometimes you must step away from settings or people that could hinder your belief.
“If they’re not going to add their faith to you, then just keep it between you and God.” (39:35)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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“Our healing is in our hearing. Our healing is connected to our hearing. … Hearing positions us for healing.”
—Nancy Dufresne, 06:20 -
“He always takes on the case. He’ll never tell you no, he’ll never tell you later, he’ll never say, not now, he’ll never say, not you.”
—Nancy Dufresne, 18:00 -
“Divine healing is a truth of the Word. It has to be accepted. It won’t just function and flow because it belongs to us. It has to be accepted.”
—Nancy Dufresne, 33:15 -
“The truth is the truth, no matter what.”
—Nancy Dufresne, 36:00 -
On the role of compassion:
“It matters that we have compassion for people who don’t know what we know, don’t see what we see. … when we see some things spiritually, we need to lead people who don’t see toward the light that we have.”
—Nancy Dufresne, 15:20
Major Timestamps
- 00:00–04:30 — Introduction and setting the healing mandate
- 04:30–10:30 — The necessity of hearing before healing
- 11:45–16:00 — The illustration of the Blind Man of Bethsaida; compassion and support
- 17:00–22:00 — Jesus leads the blind man out; the impact of unbelieving regions
- 22:00–30:00 — Cities, churches, households, and the acceptance or rejection of healing
- 31:00–34:00 — Healing as God's mercy, but requiring acceptance
- 35:30 — “Keep preaching healing…” advice for ministers and believers
- 37:00–40:00 — The importance of spiritual environment, as in Jairus’s daughter’s resurrection
Key Takeaways
- Healing is for everyone, but must be received through faith which comes by hearing the Word.
- Compassion and faith-filled support help position others for miracles.
- Faith-filled environments matter—even Jesus could not operate in a place of corporate unbelief.
- We must sometimes leave unbelieving settings, even if that means changing churches or distancing from unsupportive people.
- Preach and believe healing truth, no matter what your current experience; the Word works regardless.
- Jesus is always willing—He “takes on every case” of expectant faith.
