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We're so glad you joined us for Jesus the Healer today. We have a real intimate setting that we invite you to into. And we've got a few loved ones here that we're getting to minister to. And so grab your Bible, get some notes, some notepad, and you can follow along with us. The last several episodes, we've been teaching on the healing miracles that happened under Jesus ministry. So we're calling this healing school. And the reason we're doing this is that we recognize that if we will do what those in the New Testament did, we will get what they got. So we want to study what did they do. And so we're going through Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the four Gospels. These are the books that record Jesus earthly ministry. And there were so many miracles, so many healings that happened under Jesus ministry. They were certainly not all recorded in scripture for us. For John said, if it were written, all that could be written, even the world itself could not contain the books. So we don't want to look at the New Testament as a complete listing of all that happened under Jesus ministry. It was a sampling. It was a taste. So the Holy Ghost moved upon the writers of the New Testament. The Word says that they wrote as they were moved upon by the Holy Ghost. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were not just writing their feelings, they were writing words from heaven. And so there were 19 individual cases of healing recorded under Jesus's earthly ministry. But as we said, he certainly, he certainly performed more than 19 healings. But evidently, because the Holy Ghost took those 19 individual cases and had them recorded for our benefit, evidently in those 19 is everything we need to know about how to receive healing for ourselves and how to minister healing to others. So we need to study those. If he gave them to us for our textbook, then we need to study our textbook. So what we've been doing is taking these individual healing accounts and we're studying them line by line, word by word. Because if we're not careful, sometimes we just glaze over it. We just skim over the top. And if we don't take time to really look at exact wording, we also realize that while people are watching this, while these people are sitting here, while you are sitting where you're sitting watching on your television or online, you can be healed right where you're at. You don't have to be in this room. The power of God is present everywhere and when this word is heard, there's an anointing on the Word and you can rece from that. And the Word tells us that Jesus went everywhere teaching, preaching and healing. He had a threefold emphasis on his ministry. It was teaching, preaching and healing. Thank God for the flow of preaching. But preaching will primarily draw the attention of the world. It's a proclaiming. Of course there should be preaching in the church, but primarily you're going to see that emphasized when ministering to the unseen saved. The teaching is going to bring us into a knowledge and a revelation of what belongs to us as new Covenant believers. So we see that primarily when Jesus was in the synagogues, he taught, you find the phrase that in the synagogue he was teaching the people because the body of Christ needs teaching. When you're taught, you know how to believe for healings. When you're taught you know how to receive a miracle, how to cooperate with God. So as we're taught and those of you who are watching and you're sitting here along with us, you can receive the knowledge you need to receive exactly what you need from God. The third facet of Jesus ministry was healing. He spotlighted healing. He put a big spotlight on healing. It's inappropriate for us not to spotlight it since his his ministry was seen in the pre teaching, preaching and healing. Every minister should have that flow. Teaching, preaching and healing. Now we would look at healings, we would look at miracles and say that those are the works of Jesus. Remember, Jesus said, the works that I do, shall you do also? And then he said, and greater works. So we can go further in the sense that there's more of us in the body of Christ than there was just alone. We're not necessarily going to do greater works in quality. We're going to do greater works in quantity. Because Jesus, he did great things wherever he went. And we're not going to say that we can do greater than Jesus. We can do greater in quantity because there are many of us that make up the body of Christ, but not greater in quality. So we need to emphasize what Jesus emphasized. He emphasized teaching, preaching and healing. So that's why many people will look at the miracles and healings and say, that's the works of Jesus. But can I tell you, when you're teaching and preaching, that's still the works of Jesus. So thank God for dramatic instantaneous manifestations of God's power. But don't diminish the preaching and the teaching, because that is every bit the works of Jesus. And so we value this time to Take and teach in detail these healing miracles under Jesus ministry. Because if we will do what they did, we will get what they got. So we're going to look at the healing of the woman who was bowed over. We're going to go to Luke chapter 13, and I'm going to take some time and read a large portion of Scripture. So follow along. If you're watching by television or online, grab your Bible and follow along with us. Grab a notebook and notes and take notes, because we're calling this healing school Luke chapter 13:10 through 17. And it says, as Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath, so notice here we see, what was he doing in the synagogue? He was teaching verse 11. And behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity 18 years and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself. And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him and said unto her, woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity. And he laid his hands on her, and immediately she was made straight and glorified. God. And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath day. And he turned to the people and said, there are six days in which men ought to work in them. Therefore come and be healed, and not on the Sabbath day. The Lord then answered him and said, thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the Sabbath day loose his ox from the stall and lead him away to watering? And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound lo these 18 years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath day? And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed, and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him. So let's go back and study each of these verses, starting with verse 10. It said he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath day. So there again we see that he realized that God's people needed teaching. Why? Well, the Word tells us that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. The Old Testament, it says that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. It doesn't say they're destroyed because the devil attacked them. When you know what's yours in Christ, who you are in Christ, what belongs to you in Christ, and you know how to appropriate that, you know how to put that in place in your life, then no attack can take you off course, no attack can bring you low. Amen. And so we should use attacks to become more skillful with the knowledge that we have. So my people, the Word says, are destroyed for lack of knowledge. That's why Jesus was out teaching, so the people wouldn't live a destroyed. And so if things are being destroyed in our lives, know this. We need to know some more things. I like what I heard one minister say. And they made. They made the statement that it might be commonly heard among someone that's going through a test or trial. And they say, I'm doing everything I know and nothing's helping, nothing is changing. And I love what this minister said. If you're doing everything you know and nothing's changing, it's because you need to know more. You need to know more. Because when you know the word and you know how to appropriate it, you know how to skillfully apply that word, things will change. They won't remain the same. So if things aren't changing, it's a grand invitation into more knowledge. Amen. And that's what we're endeavoring to do in these healing classes, is give you knowledge, especially in this arena of healing. So when people are untaught, the devil takes advantage of their ignorance. Because we know this, that the ignorance gives place to the devil. He is counting on people's ignorance to work against them. Because people who know that he's been defeated, people who know that Jesus stripped him of his power and his authority over us, the devil can't work against those people. When people know that, and they hold to that when they don't know that, that the devil takes advantage of their ignorance. Ignorance doesn't mean you're unable to learn. Ignorance means you haven't been taught, you're untaught. Or you can be taught and be a poor student. You're not listening, you're not applying. And that can leave you in the seat of ignorance. And so it goes on. And it says, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity and was bowed together and could in no wise lift up herself. So notice the Word says she had a spirit of infirmity. This spirit was not from God. That God doesn't have spirit of infirmities up in heaven that he sends on people this. It was caused by an evil spirit. And a spirit of infirmity had attached itself to her body, so she was bowed over. So we would say it this way. She was bowed at the waist. She tried to lift herself up, but she couldn't. That thing had attached itself to her body in such a way, it left her crippled in her body. And so she noticed she had been in this condition for 18 years. The tragedy of seeing this woman try to conduct living when she. She can't do anything more than this. And the thing I so appreciate about this is Jesus didn't say, oh, you've been that way so long. Just let it, let it ride. Don't get used to something. I'm saying, I don't care how long something has tried to affect you. Don't get used to the wrong thing. Don't be okay with it just because so much time had passed. And I will say this, I've learned this, that God will allow you to have everything you're okay with. But if you say, I'm done with this, God's power will back you up. So don't get used to sickness over time. Don't get used to things being out of place in our bodies and things not functioning right. Don't be okay with it. Because it costs Jesus so much for to be free from it. Now, notice this. Being a Jew, it's likely that she had been attending church all this time and never received healing for 18 years. She's been bowed over. This was not her first day at the synagogue. She's a Jew. They grew up going to the synagogue. So she has been visiting and taking her place in this synagogue for these 18 years. She's bowed over. Listen and notice this. She never received healing in all those 18 years. People should be able to come to our churches and receive healing, receive help. Our churches should be the place where things change in people's lives. If people are not being healed in our churches, we need to find out why. Because it's not on God's side, it's on our side. We're not cooperating or we don't have the knowledge that we need to, or we're not putting a demand on our authority. Amen. Notice she didn't get healed sitting at home. She came to church. She came to church. When you need help, get to church. Get to where the word is being delivered. Don't sit at home. And just. If I could say this, Pet your difficulty and become self absorbed about what you're facing and the pain and the difficulty. Can you imagine the pain if she can't bend any more than this? Can you imagine the pain of movement because your body is not built to be bowed over? Everything is going to be off. The hips, the knees, everything. So for her to move, it was a difficulty, it was an inconvenience, but she didn't become okay with it. And just Stay at home. Amen. Amen. She came to the place where the anointing was present and in manifestation this day, Right when people need help. Get to church. Get to church. Get to where the manifested power of God can meet your need. Can it meet it at home? Yes. But sometimes people need more knowledge to be able to cooperate with that power. So notice she's a Jew. Jesus called her a daughter of Abraham. What's that mean? This is a woman that has a covenant. She has a covenant. The covenant of Abraham belongs to her. And Jesus pointed that out. I don't care how long she had been in this condition, 18 years. The Covenant did not lose credibility in her life. The covenant did not lose a place. It still belonged to her. So notice this. Jesus had made this statement, or the Word tells us this, that she had been bowed over with this spirit of infirmity for 18 years. So she's a Jew, she has a covenant of God, but yet there's an evil spirit in her life. Well, we need to clarify. Can you mean God's people can have a devil? Well, we have to clarify. They cannot have one in their spirit. If you're born again, there is no demon in your spirit. It's not possible because the Holy Ghost is that. Your spirit is the dwelling place of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit and the demons do not dwell together. They do not dwell together. So we need to clarify that this spirit was attached to her body. Not. This evil spirit was attached to her body, not to her, not to her own spirit. It was just attached to her body. So you have to understand, we are threefold beings. We are a spirit. We're not a body. We're a spirit. We have a soul. Now, the soul is made up of the mind, the will and the emotions. And we live in a body. The real you lives inside the body. The body is not the real you. The real you is housed by the body. So she did not have a devil in her spirit. She had this devil that was attached itself to her house. The body was the house that her spirit dwells in. So in that people can say, well, I don't understand how, how, how you can be born again and have a devil attached to your body. Well, I love the dad. Hagin was our spiritual father and he would explain it to us this way. He said you might purchase a home. Once you get in the home, a home inspector may say, hey, there's termites in your home. Just because there's termites in your house doesn't mean the termites are in you. And that's the same thing, that your body is just the house that you live in. And so just because there's something attached to your house doesn't mean it got in you. Amen. Her body was the house that she lived in. It wasn't the real her. So an evil spirit attached itself to the body. But I will say this. You say, well, does that mean that could happen to me? Not if you have knowledge. Amen. Not if you use your authority. When symptoms come and when. When there comes an attack from the enemy, you have a right to say, no, you don't. You take your hands off me. Why? Because the word says resist the devil and what will happen? He will flee from you. He just won't let go. He will run as in terror from you. Amen. Now, you don't want to get in the ditch on the other side and say that if someone is sick, that means there's a devil attached to their body. Sometimes it's a case where they need healing, only sometimes there's an evil spirit that caused that. But we know this. Whether there's an evil spirit causing that that's attached to the body or not, the devil's behind it all. Sickness in an indirect way. Now, here directly, an evil spirit was causing this condition in this woman. But that doesn't mean that there's always an evil spirit attached to someone's body. You say, well, how do you know if there is or not? You have the Holy Ghost. He's the one that. Especially if you're ministering to someone, that you don't assume that because someone is sick that there's an evil spirit attached to their body. Now, he's the devil's behind all sickness indirectly. But you would have to know by the Holy Ghost as to whether there is one attached to someone's body that you're ministering to. Now, we said that of course, as a believer, you can't get a devil in your spirit. Now one will try to attach to the body of people who don't have knowledge and don't resist the devil. And you say, well, it seems to me that I have allowed something to attach itself. You can use your authority right now and get it off. You don't have to have somebody to minister to you. You can just stand up for yourself and say, no more. No more. See, once you gain knowledge of what's yours in Christ, that once you realize I can resist the devil and he'll flee from me. Not just from the preacher, he'll flee from Me? Then you can run off something that has tried to attach or may be attached to you. Your authority will still work for you. Now, we said that every Christian, every human, is a threefold being. They are a spirit. They have a soul which is made up of the mind, the will and the emotions. And they live in a body. So we saw that a Christian cannot have an evil spirit in their spirit. It can attach to the body of someone's ignorant about what the word says is theirs. Well, what about. Can a Christian get an evil spirit in their mind? Yes, one way. If they listen to it. If they listen to the devil, that's how they get an evil spirit will gain entrance into their mind and trouble their mind. Amen. And that's why. Second Corinthians, chapter 10. And verse 5 says, casting down imaginations, don't. Don't let imaginations in. Cast them down. Imaginations that trouble your life. Imaginations that show, that paint a picture. Something negative, Cast it down. Don't turn it over in your mind. Casting down imaginations. And every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. What is the knowledge of God? The word. If it says something different than the word says it's worthy of one thing. Casting it down. How do you cast it down? Well, you say, that's not my thought. Talk to it. Talk to wrong thoughts, talk to them and say, that's not my thought. I resist that thought. I'll not take that thought and then pick up a right thought. Pick up a thought of the word and say that. And that's how you cast down what is wrong. You pick up something that is right. Casting down imaginations. And every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, that bringing into captivity. Listen to this. Every thought, not just most thoughts, every thought. It only takes one thought getting in to mess up your life. One thought. One wrong thought left unattended. And just letting it. Taking that thought day after day, day after day, how it will trouble the mind. Listen, the devil only gave Eve one wrong thought. It took one wrong thought to take them off course. One wrong thought. Not 10, not 20, just one wrong thought. Listened to, accepted and then acted on. If you listen to the wrong thing long enough, it starts sounding right. Don't listen. You know how the enemy would love to bring accusations of offense and resentment towards someone to you. Will you remember what that person did? You remember this? And trying to plant in you a seed of offense. If you listen to it long enough without answering it, it'll get him. Yeah. So we are the custodians of our body, but we're also the custodians of our mind. Now we have to remember this. When we got born again, God did something with our spirits. He gave us a new spirit. He put his own spirit in you. His life is in us. His ability is in us. Eternal life is in us. We have a brand new spirit. He didn't heal the old spirit. He took out the old spirit and he put a new spirit in us. So he did something with our spirit. But it's up to us to do something with our bodies and our minds. And Romans 12 tells us that we are to present our bodies to God. What does that mean? Present our bodies to God? Present your body to doing what? What God instructs into what pleases God. Before we were born again, we presented our bodies to sin. If the body wanted to do something, we just go with it. We presented it to sin. We're not. We're not presenting it to sin anymore. We're not connecting it and. And contributing to sin with our bodies anymore. We say, no, you don't. I have authority. We've been given dominion over sin. It can't boss us around anymore. So we refuse to yield to it. So we present our bodies to God. Present our bodies to doing what pleases God. Present our bodies to doing what's right. So we do that with our body. And then it says in Romans chapter 12, verse 2, and be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. What's renewing of the mind mean? It means to take on God's way of thinking. It means that if there's a thought that you've been raised with a way of thinking, a system of thinking that is against the way the Word teaches you. Say, I. I put down the way of the way of thinking. I've carried on my life and I take on God's way. How do you know what. How do you know what God's thoughts are? His. God's word is God's thoughts. God has shared his thoughts with humanity. He became an author and said, these are my thoughts. God offers us his thoughts. Take them. Take them. And if they're contrary to your human thinking, you set aside your human thinking. You say, no more will I think like this. I'm going to take on God's way of thinking. That's called the renewing of the mind. And when you do that and it starts playing out in the way you respond to people, you choose to respond based on God's word. You choose to speak based on God's word. You choose to believe based on God's word. Romans 12:2 said, it will transform your life. Think of it. A transformation life. I tell you what. God did something with our spirits. But it's up to us to do something with our minds and our bodies. And we can, because we had the help of the Holy Ghost to do it. Amen. We're so glad you joined us today. You don't want to miss it. We're going to study some more. God bless you. We will see you next time.
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Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Host: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Date: April 8, 2021
Series: Jesus the Healer Broadcast
This episode of "Healing School" focuses on the biblical account of the woman bowed over in Luke 13:10-17, exploring how Jesus ministered healing and the principles that believers can apply today to receive and minister healing. Pastor Nancy Dufresne emphasizes the necessity of teaching, gaining knowledge, and exercising spiritual authority. The teaching breaks down scriptural insights while providing practical spiritual instruction for listeners seeking healing or desiring to grow in their ability to help others.
Scripture Reading and Focus:
Significance of the Setting:
Jesus’s Response:
Spirit, Soul, and Body:
Can Christians Have a Devil?
Authority and Practical Guidance:
On the Power of Knowledge:
On Refusing to Accept Affliction:
On the Mind’s Gatekeeping:
On the Role of the Church:
Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s teaching stresses that healing is demonstrated and available to all believers, but knowledge, revelation, and authority must be skillfully applied. She encourages listeners to pursue the Word, renew their minds, refuse to tolerate affliction, and to always “get to church” and the place of anointing when in need. Listeners are assured that what God did for the Bowed Over Woman, He will do today: “If we will do what they did, we will get what they got.”