Podcast Summary
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: How Long Are You Going To Put Up With... Part Two
Host/Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Date: February 20, 2020
Episode Overview
In this passionate and empowering broadcast, Pastor Nancy Dufresne builds on the theme: “How long are you going to put up with…?” She challenges believers to recognize and exercise their God-given authority over recurring challenges—whether physical ailments, financial lack, strife, or bad habits. Drawing on scriptural truths and real-life testimonies, Pastor Nancy emphasizes the importance of taking responsibility, “stirring yourself up,” and boldly speaking to the issues in life instead of passively enduring them. The episode moves between pastoral encouragement and practical teaching, concluding with a time of spoken healing for specific physical conditions.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Origin of the Theme: “How Long Are You Going To Put Up With…?”
- Story of Norval Hayes:
- Pastor Nancy recounts how Jesus appeared to Brother Norval Hayes, whose daughter had 47 growths on her hands. Jesus asked, “How long are you going to put up with those growths on your daughter's body?” The implication: spiritual inactivity allows problems to remain.
- (00:30) Quote: “Letting him know that they stayed because brother Norval was putting up with it.” — Nancy Dufresne
2. Applying the Principle to All Areas of Life
- Pastor Nancy broadens the challenge from physical healing to everyday issues: sickness, lack, strife, habits, emotional struggles.
- Repeated, rhetorical questioning: “How long are you going to put up with...” in various areas of life, urging listeners to personal accountability.
- (01:17) Quote: “You’re gonna have to, from the inside of you, get fed up … Stir yourself up and say, I’m not putting up with it. I’m not.” — Nancy Dufresne
3. Taking Personal Authority (“Picking Up the Whip”)
- Parental “Whip” Analogy: The concept of external discipline in childhood must become self-discipline in adulthood and in spiritual life.
- Failure to take responsibility (“pick up the whip”) leads to unsettled lives; if you don’t take charge, the devil will.
- (02:34) Quote: “If you lay the whip down, the devil will pick it up. If you don’t take charge of your life, the devil will.” — Nancy Dufresne
4. The Danger of Excuses and Self-Sympathy
- Resistance to confronting uncomfortable truths causes stagnation.
- Encouragement to stop excusing unhealthy patterns and to desire God’s best by being honest and proactive about areas needing change.
- (03:24) Quote: “I’m going to quit putting up with petting myself and telling me I’m alright when I’m not…” — Nancy Dufresne
5. Connecting Back to Healing and Biblical Faith
- Personal Testimony: Pastor Nancy shares a period of back pain in her 20s and how God challenged her, “You’re not hurting bad enough,” highlighting the necessity of personal engagement with God’s Word for deliverance.
- The Hebrews’ 40 years in the wilderness = a lesson on enduring less than God’s best out of complacency.
- (06:35) Quote: “You can go a lifetime putting up with the wrong location, the wrong plan, living the wrong life.” — Nancy Dufresne
6. The Role of Speaking and Confession
- Christians are often waiting for God to act, but God is waiting for them to speak (“talk to their mountains”).
- The importance of making a physical list of problems we are no longer going to “put up with” as a practical faith step.
- (08:37) Quote: “So many Christians are waiting for God to do something about their situation, and God is waiting for them to talk to their mountains.” — Nancy Dufresne
7. The Mechanics of Faith: Hearing and Saying
- In-depth teaching from Mark 11:22-23:
- Faith comes by hearing the Word (Romans 12, Hebrews 11), but faith is released by speaking.
- The act of “talking to things” (healings, finances) only works when undergirded by an active, present-tense hearing of the Word.
- (13:44) Quote: “Faith comes by hearing, but faith is not released by hearing; faith is released by speaking.” — Nancy Dufresne
- Jesus’ teaching (“have faith in God... whoever shall say unto this mountain...”) was about practical action, not merely belief.
8. Real-Life Illustrations of Speaking to the Mountain
- Norval Hayes’ Testimony: His results only changed when he began speaking directly to the growths on his daughter’s hands.
- (22:26) Quote: “He never talked to the mountain. He kept praying for healing, but he did not talk to the mountain.” — Nancy Dufresne (relaying Norval Hayes’ story about a man who died of cancer)
- Disobedience to Jesus’ instruction to “say to the mountain” limits victory.
9. The Need for Persistent “Saying”
- Reference to what Jesus told Dad Hagin: “The word ‘say’ or ‘saith’ is written three times; the word ‘believe’ is written one time... my people are not missing it in believing, they’re missing it in their saying.”
- Emphasis: Bold confession is often the missing element.
- (24:34) Quote: “You’re going to have to talk and preach three times more about the saying part than you do about the believing part to get the people to see it.” — Nancy Dufresne (quoting Jesus to Dad Hagin)
10. The Authority of the Believer
- Further scriptural support from Matthew 16:19 and Luke 10:19—whatever is bound/loosed on earth is bound/loosed in heaven; authority has been given to believers.
- The principle: Heaven backs up believers who use their authority.
- (28:16) Quote: “If you’ll use your authority, heaven will back you up. ... Heaven has put you in authority as the custodian over your life.” — Nancy Dufresne
- If you don’t “tread on serpents and scorpions,” they can hurt you; if you do, they cannot: authority must be actively used.
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
- “If you don’t take charge of your life, the devil will.” (02:34)
- “As long as I put up with it, it will live with me. And you want to make sure what you’re living with is a kind master. And Jesus is the only kind master.” (05:13)
- “Jesus told brother Norval the reason that those growths were still on his daughter’s body was for one reason—he hadn’t talked to them. Turn your mouth loose on what God says is yours.” (10:00)
- “Faith does not come by ‘heard,’ it comes by ‘hearing.’ Hearing is a present tense action. ‘Heard’ is past tense.” (20:34)
- “Mountains grow not because we don’t believe that God is able, but because we’re not talking to them.” (26:52)
- “If you don’t say anything, if you just accept things, if you just let things be the way they are, they will hurt you. But it says the one that’s treading is the one that won’t get hurt.” (30:36)
Healing Declarations and Ministry Segment (32:00–36:00)
- Pastor Nancy shifts into a time of specific healing ministry, declaring healing for:
- Neck mobility
- Female reproductive organs
- Ears
- Lumps in breasts (“they dry up in Jesus name”)
- Pelvis alignment
- Leg injuries
- Repeated call to “take that”—to receive and act on healing by faith.
Important Timestamps
- 00:30 – 01:40: Norval Hayes story and opening challenge
- 02:20 – 03:45: “Picking up the whip” illustration (self-discipline and spiritual authority)
- 05:15 – 06:35: Personal testimony about healing and engaging God’s Word
- 08:00 – 09:00: Making a faith-based list—practical steps
- 10:00 – 13:30: Importance of speaking to the mountain; Mark 11:22-23 teaching begins
- 19:00 – 21:30: Norval Hayes’ story about not talking to the mountain (cancer testimony)
- 24:20 – 26:52: Jesus to Dad Hagin: Say three times more than believe
- 28:00 – 30:36: The believer’s authority—Matthew 16 & Luke 10
- 32:00 – 36:00: Healing ministry for physical conditions
Conclusion
This episode is an energizing call to action for any listener who has settled for less than what God’s Word promises. With a mix of biblical insight, personal testimony, and direct spiritual instruction, Pastor Nancy Dufresne urges each Christian to stop tolerating problems, begin speaking the Word in faith, and actively use their God-given authority. The episode ends with powerful spoken declarations for healing, demonstrating the very principles taught.
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