"I Am Iron Man!" – Joel Siegel | Friday AM | Campmeeting 2021 – Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Date: June 11, 2021
Speaker: Joel Siegel
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Theme: Understanding the Biblical Foundation and Practical Power of the Laying on of Hands

Episode Overview

Joel Siegel delivers an energizing and insightful message on the foundational doctrine of the laying on of hands, examining its biblical roots, significance, and practical outworking in the life of every believer. Drawing rich parallels from the Old and New Testament, testimonies, and even pop culture (“Iron Man”), Siegel emphasizes that supernatural healing, impartation, and miracles are accessible—not only to ministers but to all believers. He further explores how "transmission" and "reception" are both critical to the manifestation of God’s power, encouraging the audience to recognize and activate what is already within them.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Laying the Foundation: Basic Doctrine, Not Advanced (08:00)

• Siegel addresses the often-overlooked elementary teachings listed in Hebrews 6:1–2:
  • Repentance from dead works
  • Faith toward God
  • The doctrine of baptisms
  • Laying on of hands
  • Resurrection of the dead
  • Eternal judgment
• Insight: These are considered "kindergarten-level" truths according to Hebrews, yet many churches treat them as advanced or neglect some altogether.

  “It gives us the idea that if these things aren’t in good condition in the church, you’re going to have trouble going further and higher.” (15:00)

2. The Doctrine of Christ & The Anointing (18:00)

• Siegel references a teaching by Kenneth Copeland clarifying that “Christ” means the Anointed One and His anointing, not simply Jesus’ surname.
• The basics—especially laying on of hands—are about facilitating “the flow of the anointing,” the tangible power of God.

3. Transmission and Reception: The Scriptural and Natural Parallel (50:00)

• Drawing from Habakkuk 3:4, Siegel highlights the imagery of “rays of light” streaming from God’s hands:

  “Rays of light flash from His hand where His awesome power is hidden.” (Habakkuk 3:4, NLT)

• Playfully connects this image to Iron Man and pop culture superheroes:

  “You thought it was fiction? It’s all real. … Rays of light flash from His hand, where His mighty power is hidden.” (52:00)

• Expands on how God’s power is meant to flow through the believer’s hands, not just Jesus’ physical hands:

  “God’s hand is our hands.” (54:00)

4. Touch, Human Contact, and Transmission (57:00)

• Uses relatable examples:
  • The “laying on of lips” between spouses as illustration for real, tangible transmission.
  • The “holding of hands”—with a spouse it's transmission; with others in church, it may not be.
• Memorable illustration about nurses transmitting peace by touch before surgery.

5. Practical Application: The Need for Expectation (70:00)

• Critiques that many receive hands laid on them but lack revelation or expectation, which hinders results.
• Laying on of hands is not a “duck, duck, goose” mechanical act; both transmitter and receiver must be engaged.

  “That mighty power flows based on the degree of transmission and the degree of reception.” (75:00)

6. Mark 16—Miracles Follow Believers, Not Just Ministers (80:00)

• Emphasizes that ALL believers can lay hands on the sick and see miraculous signs, not just those with a “special anointing.”

• Quotes Mark 16:17–18, explaining “recover” means to be made right and well, not necessarily over a long process.

“Miracles follow me. Oh, I think we ought to say that a couple 10 times. Miracles follow me. And we ain’t just talking to ministers. This is talking to all believers.” (86:00)

7. The Difference Between Ministerial Special Anointings and the General Believer (95:00)

• Shares stories from his time with Brother Hagin, learning to recognize the tangible transfer of anointing.
• Clarifies: Even those without a specific healing anointing still have the Holy Spirit’s power and authority to minister healing.

  “The idea that if I don’t have a special anointing, I don’t have any anointing. That’s not right.” (109:00)

• Encourages: Do not say “I have nothing”; as a Spirit-filled believer, you have God’s power within, meant to flow out.

8. Real-Life Testimony: Healing Without a Special Anointing (111:30)

• Shares a story of ministering healing to a non-believer, Chris, through simple faith, not ministerial gifting:

  “I said, Chris, God’s put His healing in me. I can put it on you.” … Later, Chris’s leg was completely healed.
  “I believe you have healing powers.” … “I do, but the power is not from me … it’s God.” (114:00)

9. Practical Exercise: Activating Reception (121:00)

• Leads the congregation in holding out their hands, worshipping, and thanking God for His life within them, expecting the power to flow through to others.
• Encourages listeners to never say they don’t have anything to offer, charging them to minister healing and God’s power to others in everyday life.

10. Charge to Ministers and Believers (127:00)

• Even ministers without a special anointing should use their hands by faith—and as they are faithful, more will be given.
• Closing challenge:

  “Here am I, Lord. Use me. Here’s a couple of hands—use these.” (128:00)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On doctrine:

  “Leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ… not leaving them behind, leaving them in place.” (12:45)

• On “elementary” end times:

  “Most Christians… think that’s advanced. That’s way big advanced stuff. According to this, that’s elementary school.” (14:30)

• Transmitting power in marriage:

  “There’s another ordinance, another practice, phenomenon among married couples called laying on of lips… Is it possible to transmit power through the laying on of lips?” (58:00)

• On expectation:

  “If the people… in the line to receive don't know what’s going on, what does that affect? It would affect the results.” (74:30)

• Empowering believers:

  “Don’t ever say I don’t have anything. Oh, man. Stand up with me… shout about this a little bit. What’s in you will do it. Glory, glory, glory.” (129:00)

Important Timestamps

• 08:00 – Hebrews 5–6: The basics of doctrine, the importance of the “first principles.”
• 15:00 – How ignoring these basics stunts growth in the church.
• 18:00 – The doctrine of Christ is about the anointing.
• 52:00 – “I Am Iron Man”—Habakkuk 3: The biblical vision of power in God’s hands and the superhero metaphor.
• 57:00 – Illustrations of transmission: from lips to hands, from spouse to nurse.
• 70:00 – The necessity of teaching and expectation for effective results.
• 80:00 – Mark 16: All believers are called to lay hands on the sick.
• 95:00 – The difference between ministerial anointing and general believers.
• 111:30 – Testimony: ministering healing in daily life.
• 121:00 – Practical activation exercise: recognizing the power within.
• 128:00 – Final charge: “Here’s a couple of hands; use these.”

Tone, Style, and Speaker Voice

• Siegel’s delivery is lively, humorous, and accessible, packed with scripture but also highly practical and down-to-earth.
• Illustrations from pop culture and personal life keep the message relatable and memorable.
• Edifies and challenges the audience without hype or condemnation: consistently encouraging a faith-filled, expectant posture.

Conclusion

This episode is a call to action and a reminder that the “elementary” doctrine of the laying on of hands is neither old-fashioned nor out of reach—it is the very means by which God’s supernatural power is released in the earth, through every believer. Siegel urges listeners not to wait for “special anointings” or external validation, but to recognize, stir up, and release what God has placed within them. Whether in church, at home, or in the kitchen—God intends for His power to flow through you. Miracles follow those who believe!

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