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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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There's nothing like the presence of the Lord. Absolutely nothing. So you can be seated. Thank you so much for receiving what God has placed within me. I'm excited about, always excited about what God is doing. I always like to put it this way, what he has done, what he is doing, and what he's going to continue to do. Amen. Because he always is moving, always going forth, always praise the Lord. And I'm just excited to be here. And it's like Nancy has said, it's special. And it's not only special, it's special to the Lord because as we know, he has purpose. Purpose is for everything. And there's purpose for this. Purpose for this. And busha de bia and bran de viquissa and somba mele batafrija cinemata hasabaya. Happy. Bishtitiba bisha ditiba. Bisha ditiba. Yes.
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Some of you wonder how it pleases me, but it does. I get glory out of you, seeking and searching for the things of the spirit. And I have many more things for you tonight. So I desire for you to listen. Listen to the voice of the Holy Ghost. Because in his presence is fullness of joy.
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And I want you to walk in that joy.
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Yes. Yes.
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Hallelujah.
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Walk in that joy. He wants us to walk in that joy. But that joy comes from the presence of the Lord. We're going to talk a little bit about the presence of the Lord. I put it this way. In his presence is to know him. In his presence is to know him. And this is a subject that's very dear to me because it's always. I mean, so in me of how important it is to know God, to know his will, and to always be in his presence. You know, I think I've probably said this before, but as a child, when we had our nightly devotions as family, then when we were finished, when we'd go to bed, then I would always go to bed. And when I'd lay my head down, I'd say, father God, all I desire is to always be in your will. And so doing that shows you the importance of speaking words that comes from your heart, comes from the Word. And it's become such a part of me that it's never not a part of me. It's. It's always there. His presence is always a part of me. All the time. I'm aware of his Presence. You know, that may sound strange to you, but I can be sitting in the hairstylist and her doing my hair, and I feel the presence of the Lord. I can be in the grocery store and I feel the presence of the Lord. Why? Because He. He is with me. I have practiced that, and I have learned how important it is to always be in his presence. And I may get out what's in my notes, and I may not. But we're not gonna be concerned about that, right? And one of the things I believe. I'm just gonna talk, okay? One of the things I believe that God. Let me say it this way. One of the reasons, I guess I would say it this way, that God brought Happy and Jeannie, Jerry and Carolyn, myself and Buddy and Ed and then Nancy later, is because we all have the most deep desire to know God and to follow God. And when you learn that and when you're in that, it's very easy to respect one another's gifts because you're not thinking of yourself. You're thinking of what God wants. You're thinking of what God wants. And it's always been such a privilege to call them my friends. You know, it's hard to describe our closeness. It's unusual for a lot of people because it's spiritual. It is not earthly. It is spiritual. It's a thing that God did. But understand we had our part to allow God to do what he desired. And so to me, that's why it's so important that you understand the richness of knowing the presence of the God. And that closeness.
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It'S not what you do. It's who you are. And know that I am in you and you in me. You'll need not to work this up. You can't attain to this presence by study. You have to walk in me. You have to live in me. You can't duplicate what others have. You're special to me. I have you in my heart. I'm in you. And I desire this closeness. Many forget that the whole purpose for my creation of man was for fellowship. That's why I created him in my image. Because I'm spirit. Your spirit. And we commune spirit to spirit. Sometimes words don't have to be spoken. But you know and I know.
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And we walk together. There's no apologies, there's no fear. I'm always there. As I walked with Adam in the cool of the day, I desire to walk with you morning, noon and night. When you go to bed at night, when you get up in the morning. So Heed these words and listen to the spirit of God. And you can achieve and know this and have this. This relationship with me right now forever.
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Hallelujah. Thank you, my father. Thank you, my father. Anyone can have this relationship that desires. That desires to follow God, to know God in a way that you've never known him before. So it's very important that we see this. And I didn't start out anyway like I thought I would, but one of the scriptures I was gonna read was 1 John 1:3. And it simply says, that which we have seen and heard, we declare to you that you may have fellowship with us. And truly our fellowship is with the Father and with his son Jesus. And he's emphasizing the deity and the humanity of Jesus. And understand this. We follow forth just as Jesus did, except he was deity and became walked into the world, into the human life, where we are human and have walked into the spirit world. See the difference? But as that human walking into the spirit world, if we understand the fellowship one with another. Because fellowship with one another and sharing the Word brings instruction to us. It brings revelation to us. It helps us in a lot of different ways. So it's important we have the fellowship with one with the other. Mainly to emphasize how important it is that you recognize, yes, you're human, but you have stepped into the spirit world because that's where you really live, should live. And that's why the fellowship is important. And the Lord gave me this scripture, and I thought, that's just a strange scripture. But I understand what he's saying. It's the fellowship, fellowshipping with him all the time. You say, well, I can't do that. You know, I have to do this, I have to do that. Yeah, I have to do this. And I have to do that too. But I can do that. I can do that. Ever aware of the presence of the Lord, my Father, God, because He is most important in my life. He is always first in my life. And in his presence. It goes on to say, and these things we write to you that your joy may be full. Did not God say that while ago? Yes, he did. Your joy, he wants your joy to be full. And the best way for your joy to be full and stay full is knowing God and always in his presence. Hallelujah. But we have to purpose in our hearts that we know that we want to know Him. We have to not come with the idea that strictly it's true that it's there and it's for us, but not strictly for looking for benefits, but looking for the knowledge of God. Looking for the knowledge of God. And that brings us into an ultimate and rightful place of the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah. And we know that it is through exercising our faith that we receive this. And we know that it's in Christ that we receive this. But at the same time, it's the Father God that made it all happen. He's the one that gave the promises in the first place. And we have to know that. But we receive it through Jesus. And if you build an ultimate relationship with the Father God, you're building an ultimate relationship with the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. You must recognize all three. You must recognize all three. Hallelujah. And then you go on down. When I was shouldn't say you go on down, but this is going so different. I don't know exactly where to go. In my notes. Let me just say this. There's three things that promote growth. Faithfulness, mercy, and the knowledge of God. Hosea 4:1 says the cause of his people falling away is because there was no faithfulness, no mercy and no knowledge of God. Faithfulness. What is faithfulness? One definition is firm in adherence to the promises, true to the feats God is always. God is asking us to create in our relationship a sense of confidence and stability. A sense of confidence and stability. And this only comes through knowing him, knowing God, having that intimacy with Him. What is mercy? Mercy. This is one definition. I didn't try to pull out a whole bunch. There's several different ones. But this one is a compassion or forbearance shown to an offender, were we not offenders. Kindness extended instead of strictness or severity. Hallelujah. Thank God. I didn't get what I deserved. It's because of Jesus. I received Jesus. I did not get what I deserved because of his mercy. Glory to God. And of course, knowledge. The fact or condition of knowing something with a considerable degree of familiarity gain through experience of our contact, our association with an individual. So I think we've failed to understand a lot of times that a lot of our problems is because we don't know or have the knowledge of God. We don't listen, we don't take time to hear, we don't ask lot of different things. But what we have to do is to quit leaning to our own desires and go to him and take the time and make the effort to know what he desires. What did he sing? He sang the song from what? Nehemiah. Right. I have plans for you. Hallelujah. And those plans we'll never know if we do not Know him. If we don't seek him, if we don't ask him. And it's interesting to me how many Christians go in life never asking the Lord about things. And I'm thinking, that's the first thing I think of, okay, what does God think about this? What is God saying about this? What am I supposed to do about this? According to what God says, You know, in all of our relationships, Carolyn was always. She was always there. She was always with Jerry. She always supported him. She took care of the home, she took care of the family. She did all that. But she was never, say, out ministering as he did. But she did her part in her season. But God had plans for her. And I told her last night, I said, I'm just so proud of you because she has stepped up and moved into what God's plan is for this time, for this season. And she's strong in the Lord. She has a relationship with him. She knows him. She goes, that's evident by what she said this morning, right? And you know, that blesses me. And when Jerry went to heaven, I made a point to. Cause I've been through this. Not as sudden, like a shock, but still I've been through it. And so I made a point of either texting or talking to her, calling her every day, every day to encourage her to see where she was. Because you don't exactly know where a person is until you talk to them to see where she was and to try to encourage her in those times. And she'd say, I don't see how you did it. And I said, yes, you know how I did it. I did it by the Father, God, the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit. And I said, you know all three well, and you can do the same. And that is what. That is a covenant. That is a commitment that you made to someone, that you got to know them. And that relationship is precious. It's deep. You know one another, and you have understanding of one another. And as she got busy and busy and busy, and I said, carolyn, you better settle and slow down a little bit. I said, you're not used to this schedule. You're not used to all this. You're learning a lot of things as you go. You need to slow down. And she said, well, there's just so much to do. And they want me to do this, they want me to do that. And I said, carolyn, what does God want you to do? And I try to encourage her in that way because, you know, in your mind, you know, you got this Ministry, you want it? God said, keep it going. You gotta keep it going. You're responsible. But you can't get in the natural with it, because when you get in the natural with it, it affects you and it begin to affect her. You mind me saying that? And she got under all this stress. And I told her, I said, carolyn, that was one thing that I did that I didn't have anybody to tell me. I'd never been under that kind of stress before. I didn't even realize it was stress until it affected my body. And I said, carolyn, don't. Don't go there. You know, learn to pace yourself of how you can do it and what you can do. So anyway, it began to affect her. She went in for her checkup, and the doctor said to her, Ms. Savelle, your stress level is, whatever, way higher than it should be, and you have got to get out from under that stress, whatever it takes, or you're going to be in trouble. So she took the steps to do that. She relaxed, she got rested, she got calm. And see, that's where that comes from. Where that calmness comes in is where you can finally just relax and say, okay, God, I know you told me to do this. I can do this. And it's because of you. I can do it. So I'm listening to you. I'm following you, and you will help me. And now she's learned to pace herself. She's learned to say, no, I can't do that. I can do this, but I can't do that. And that's what you have to do. Because that is part of keeping yourself in a place where you're in the complete will of God, in complete peace, in complete confidence and the ultimate fellowship with Him. You see what I'm saying? All that's so important, we cannot let ourselves get in these positions because we're not taking the time to be with God, to know him, to know what he's saying, to follow him, to always have his presence with us and in us and strong going forth. Otherwise, your emotions will take over. Your emotions will take over. And you have to allow yourself to stay in his presence so that you, the real you, the spirit man, stays in control. But it only happens by having that commitment of staying in his presence, of being in his presence, of taking the time to just say, okay, God, I'm here. I'm listening. What do you have to say to me? Have you ever thought about talking to God like that? I have. Lots of times. I say, God, I'm here. What do you have to say to me? And he would help me and talk to me, help me with things, show me things, you know. But you have to make that decision. You have to make that determination. It's a commitment. It is a commitment. And we need to learn to commit ourselves to God. Wow. The Holy Spirit wants you to allow him to help you. What does he want you to help you to let him help you do. Change your carnal self. That's what he wants you to let him help you do. Change your carnal self. We think we're so spiritual and sometimes I think, lord have mercy. Lord have mercy. The Holy Spirit, he's there as a helper and he's there to help you change your carnal self. And how do you do that? By bringing your intellect and your emotions in tune, perfect harmony with the will of God. Bringing your emotions, ugh, my, my, my. And your intellect into perfect harmony with the will of. Let me just say this. The Holy Spirit, through your spirit, your spirit man, yes, you can communicate his words, thoughts and attitudes to you fully. Let me say that again. The Holy Spirit, through your spirit man, can communicate his words, thoughts and attitudes to you fully. But you have to be listening. It takes the commitment to get in the word of God, to study, to have the sensitivity to know what God is saying to you. And allowing the Holy Spirit and His promptings to take you to the place of discipline that you've committed to. Once you make the commitment, there's the discipline of the commitment. And a lot of times the biggest problem with that is we want to commit to God, but we don't want to go through the discipline. And it takes discipline. It takes discipline in that commitment to follow God, to always look to him, to always hear him. And not in a way where I've seen people that I don't know what they're doing. I don't know if they're second guessing themselves, second guessing God or what. But it seems like once they pray and they ask the Lord and they feel like they got the answer, it takes them forever. Forever seems like forever to move. Well, if God has spoken, you have committed and you've allowed the Holy Spirit to help you discipline yourself in that commitment. And you ask the Lord something or he gives you instruction about something. And I don't know if they think they have to pray about it. Why do you have to pray about it? God just said, I don't pray about things that God said to me. I may pray about something that somebody asked me, but I don't Pray about what God said to me. God said it, do it, say it, be it. But that takes knowing him to be able to walk in that kind of confidence. I don't get up and say the things I say because I think maybe they're right. I get up and say the things I say because I know the Holy Ghost I'm yielded to. And I know I'm gonna speak forth words of truth by his help. Why? Because I've taken the time to commit myself, to allow the Holy Spirit to help me discipline myself, to walk in the fullness of all that God is saying. And you will stay in the will of God, and you don't have to be moved by this and that. No, God said God spoke. So what are you waiting for? That's what I say. I said that someday the other day. And they said, well, I don't know. I said, well, then get busy. What did God say? Someone was talking to. Asked me some questions for some advice. So when God says, you do, you don't have to pray about it. Somala barahishitiya, seda baragusha. It's so jabarakasita bea. It's so dabba priestly.
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Don't just really make these words a matter of notes. What I'm speaking to you is the word of wisdom. And you take this word into yourself. All of those in my word that saw great miracles and signs and wonders acted on what I said to them. The woman with the issue of blood, she said, if I may touch the hem of his garment, I'll be made whole. And she did. And she was. And she was the reason the apostle Paul could not communicate spiritual things to the church at Corinth. He said, you're carnal.
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And you cannot receive the things of the Spirit. Put away the carnal things. My word says, take off that man and put on the God man. You want to know why? Why I took Enoch. He was not found. I took him. He did not see death because he pleased me.
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Oh, yes. Oh, thank you, Jesus. Thank you, my father. Thank you, my father.
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Hallelujah.
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Is there more you want to say? App? No.
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I hear what the Spirit say.
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All my children to develop. And that's why I'm having you speak these words for all of my children to develop. That relationship that you've developed with me. You know me, and I know you, and we instantly have cognition. By knowing, you get to know by time, fellowship, doing, and by faith. So take heed that these are not just words for your notebook. These are spiritual nuggets. These are the words of wisdom, their spirit words. They've gone already before. Many are looking forward to see the city Four Square. John said he saw it. It's already there. The things that I've prepared for you are already there when you listen to me. Because I'm speaking to you about things that have already been done already for you. Yes, but the only way you're going to partake of it is by spending time with me. And we'll become one together. Oh, you are in Christ Jesus. But we'll walk as one and we'll work as one.
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As one. As one. We operate together with God as one.
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Because I have committed myself to. To Him. I have allowed the Holy Spirit to help me develop and discipline myself. My carnal self. I'm still plenty carnal. Always working on that. But that's because you live here on the earth and you're always rubbing with the, you know, shoulders with people that don't know God. They may know God, but they're not following Him. Or they know him to the best of their ability of how they've been taught, but they have not studied for themselves to know him for themselves. So that means they just still know about God. They don't know Him. So one of the things I learned a long time ago was when I came into my home, I didn't say it out loud or, you know, yell it or anything. Just when I came into my home, I just said, thank you, Lord. The things of the world and the things of this earth are not attached to me. They do not come into my home because. Because my home is holy and it is for God and for me to enjoy that which he has given to me. And when you learn to do that, that releases all that junk. And it does not come home with you. It does not come into your home. And believe me, I've had plenty of opportunities for it to be in my home. But. But God. But God, he is ever faithful. That's why we have to learn to be faithful. That's why we have to learn to be merciful. And that's why we have to learn the knowledge of God. In other words, knowing him, you learn to know someone by spending time with them. You learn to know someone by spending time with them. And let me just say this. I don't know why I'm saying it, but just came up my spirit and I always told the Father that I would speak what the spirit told me to speak. But that's the reason a lot of marriages don't fail. I mean, a lot of marriages fail, it's because they know one another to a degree, but they have not got to know one another in that depth. That needs to be known because one of them, or maybe both of them are not willing to commit this totally to that marriage, to discipline themselves to do what it takes to make that marriage be what it should be. You're more interested in whatever. And I know when Buddy and I got married, in the first few years we were married, he was born again. He was spirit filled, but. But he wasn't really living the life that he should be living for the Lord. And so in my times of prayer, a lot of time I just say, lord, I'm just gonna pray and I'm gonna see. I'm gonna hook up with the Holy Spirit and intercede for Buddy. And I would start praying. I would just start praying and praying in the Holy Ghost, yielding myself to the Holy Ghost and just really praying for him. And then the Lord would say to me, well, you know what you can do? I said, lord, we're not talking about me. He said, yes, but this will help the situation. And then he would instruct me of what I could do to help the situation. So as I took that on and did that with, the Spirit of God instructed me, I didn't pray about it. He instructed me to do as I began to do, that things began to change. And so it's not always about him or her. It's about again, allowing the Holy Spirit to help you discipline your carnal self. That's what it comes down to. That's what it comes down to. So we need to see that and understand it. And you can't blame this one, and you can't blame that one. It's all a mixture of a lot of things. But in a nutshell, it comes down to the fact that. That in the commitment, the marriage commitment, somewhere along the line, you didn't take the time to allow the Holy Spirit to help you with your carnal self in the discipline of keeping that commitment. Well, I didn't quite in here, Nancy. It's true. It's true. That's why it's so important that we understand that in God there's a closeness, a depth that no man can take away from you in that commitment to him, to be in his presence, to hear what he has to say and to move on what he has to say. Say. And I can tell you for myself, you know, there's times that God has told me something to say to someone or something to do, and I haven't done it. And. Oh, my. I just felt horrible, I thought, because I was, you know, always waiting for the right time. Well, if God said, do it and say it, then now's the time. Now's the time. You understand what I'm saying. But you only know these things and understand these things by knowing him, by spending time with him, so that you get into the depths, the deepness of who he is. The deepness of who he is. He is so precious. You know, Paul in Philippians, he said that, you know, he'd seen miracles, he'd seen all kinds of things, but he said his determinist purpose is that I may know him, that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with him, perceiving, recognizing and understanding. Come on. The wonders of his purpose more strongly and more clearly. Wow. That should be our heart. That should be where we are. He said, for my determined purpose. This is Philippians 3:10. That I may know him, that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with him, perceiving, recognizing and understanding the wonders of his person more strongly and more deeply. And that is in the application classic I was reading from. And you know. And so what is he saying? After all the miracles, all the manifestations of God, his yearning still was that he might know him so that he could be like him, so that he could move with him. In a moment's notice. God said, let's go. Mm. We have to know his innermost nature. Let me see how I wrote that. We must know God and his innermost nature to make him known to the world. So you can see why the Church has not made him known to the world, because there's not that depth of knowing Him. They know about him, but they don't have that depth of knowing him, moving with him, knowing God spoke, I must move. God has said, do. I must do. God has said, say. I must say. It's not always pleasant. I've had to say some things to some people that in the natural, is totally grading against my personality. Totally. But I knew it was God, and I knew there was purpose, and I knew that it must be said. Now, those kind of things aren't done publicly most of the time, but sometimes they are. But very, very seldom. Very seldom. But I just wanted to share with you the importance of always being with God, always being aware of God, his presence, his love, knowing that he's always right there. His Holy Spirit is always right there. Jesus is in us, we are in him, and everything we do is because of him and in him. So we must know Him. And like I say, if you know the Father, you know the Son. If you know the Son, you know the Father. And if you know the Holy Spirit, you know that he is the one that will bring forth everything God has said because he is the action behind the Father's will. Glory to God. Glory to God. So he's not gonna lead you astray. He's the action behind the Father's will. So when you speak, that's why when you speak forth the word of God, the Holy Spirit moves to cause it to happen. Why? Because it's truth. And he is the spirit of truth. Therefore, when you speak forth truth, he is there as your helper to cause that happen in your life. Hallelujah. That's what you have to see and understand and know about God. He has given you everything that you need on this earth to do exactly what he says. Do exactly what he says. Do nothing more, nothing less. Hallelujah. Ho, mama la sedilla. Ota lebanea. Kylie, come up here, honey. Father, God said just call you up, lay hands on you. Ha ha. Yes. Somana. Somana. Somana. All of it. Take it all in. Let the rest go. You have to let it go. If you're gonna move fully in what all I have said and given to you, you have to let it go in the name of Jesus. Yes. Yes. Yes. Ha ha. Yes, you can and you will. By the word of God and the Spirit. The precious Holy Spirit. Yes.
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Ah. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. You're so good. Thank you, Holy Spirit, for helping us. Helping us to be that which we are to be. Ha ha. It's tutu that God has said. Just remember the words you can do it. Remember the words you can do. Says so when I see the spirit. He said, I said so. Ha ha. You can do it because God said so. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Deeper. We praise you, Lord. We praise you, Lord. We praise you, Lord. We glorify you. It's because of you that we have what we have. It's because of you that we can stand and say, I know him, you know. I thank the Father well every day. I do thank him that he's my. My Father and for giving us Jesus so that we could know him as our Father. So that we could know that, yes, he is everything he said and he will do everything that he said he would do. Ah, mesti le mo. It's through the goodness of God and his faithfulness that you are where you are. It's through the goodness of God and his faithfulness that you have what you have. So you have to let yourself move with him, in him, and allow him to move through you and with you all the time. All the time. All the time. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Preston, come up here, honey. The spirit of the Lord said call him up here. Aleksiya. I want a yashidamaha. Yeah, just get right down there. Ha ha ha. Spirit of the Lord says I want to place within you a special anointing that you will easily understand and know. Every step, each step, the next step as you go along, and you'll be aware. And it's because of this anointing. Aha. That I'm placing upon you and within you that I can say, I know what to do. God says this is the step. And as you continually to move with him and seek him and develop more deeply your relationship with him, you'll be more and more and more aware of it. Anointing flow. Ishida. Precious. Precious. Precious. Precious is asobaha. Precious is asobaha. Le brakasite lebe aisi mita elikushi de motivres dea. Haha. And Father God says, I have called you for such a time as this, so you have all that you need. And that's me. That's me. Hallelujah. So just remember, the anointing you receive this night is wisdom. Wisdom, wisdom. And when you open your mouth, it shall come forth because of the anointing. Hallelujah. Glory to God. Glory to God.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hallelujah. Glory. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. I just heard the Lord said, there goes a precious man. Hallelujah. And that's so true. Blessed of my host. So true. Hallelujah. Oh, my, my, my, my, my, my, my. Somalah, God is so good. But we have to know him to know this. And I don't care if you're a minister or not a minister. If you're not doing what you should be doing in the presence of the Lord, you're not gonna be walking in his presence and in the power that he has so ordained for you. You will not. You will not. So. Malaha, it's because of the presence of the Lord and his goodness and his greatness and all that he has said that we are where we are and that we're doing what God said do. To me, this has just been a words of wisdom, words of Wisdom. Words of wisdom for this time and this day. We have to know him in the depth, in the depth, in the deepness of who he is, going deeper and deeper and deeper with him all the time. So that you are continually in the place of knowing immediately when he speaks, of knowing immediately what to do when and how to do when. Because you know him, because you've developed this deepness with him, that you're alive unto him continually. And you hear him continually, not what man has said, but what he has said. And remember, you just said this. Remember, when I speak, you move. You don't have to think about it. You don't have to pray about it. When he speaks, you move. Amen. Huh? See me, huh? Just. Nancy, come up here with me. So you should sit right there, huh? Now, this lady, when I first met her, I don't know if I've ever told you this, but when I first met her, I thought, there's a lady that's going to move with God. They just came up out of me. I didn't say it to anybody, never have said it to anybody, never have said it till now. But that's exactly what came up out of me. This is a woman that's gonna move with God. And I just said, lord, thank you for bringing her to Ed. Because Ed needed someone that could understand him. Because understand this. When someone has, like, happy said this morning, just has an anointing. I mean, just an anointing on them all the time. I mean, you're just aware of it. People don't understand. But God gave him a woman that was teachable, that could understand and that wanted to know God, wanted to know God. And I'm so grateful for that because my, my, look what God has done. And God's saying, you know, there's more to come, more to come. There's more to come. More greatness, more goodness. Yeah. The. The spirit of God is saying to you, the anointing I have placed upon you is like none other. Yes, There are those that you have followed and you have studied, and that's good. But the anointing, my anointing I have placed on you is like none other. And because your heart is pure before me, you will follow me. And you will see the greatness, the goodness, the kindness in this anointing all the time. All the time. And as you continually seek him, continue to seek him, you'll be aware of it. You'll be aware of it. You'll be more aware of it than ever before. But I just wanted to Publicly, thank you for being such a precious woman of God, a precious wife, to add a mother to your children. Because it's what's brought you through, and it's what has brought you into the place that you are now. And this is, you understand? This is a Father God talking to you, not me. And so I want you to understand. He said that it was your willingness to do what was right and to do what I said that brought you to this place. And this is not even. This is not even one step of what there is to come. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just yield to that. Mm. Yes, Jesus. Yes, Jesus. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. Wonderful, Father. Wonderful Father. Wonderful Jesus. My, my, my, my, my. Everybody just pray in the holy. Namaha, namaha, namaha, namaha. Hallelujah. Grant, where are you? Come up here, please. Precious man of God. Precious man of God. Hallelujah. Ah. Now I have begun to place you in a place for you to continue your growth. And as you continue your growth, to help others to grow and mature. But it's gonna take some discipline, a commitment, of course, and some discipline. But this is where I have placed you for this season, for this time. It's not only for your growth, but for those that you are ministering to. That's why it's important that you seek me. You seek. Keep moving deeper and deeper with me so that those you speak, the words you speak are life and depth that brings growth and maturity. Hala balakasia. Blessed, strong. Woo Ma ma ma ma ma ma. Celia. In the name of Jesus. Yeah.
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Ho ho ho Ho ho ho.
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Ye baraha esibia sibaraha rekha. Stronger. Stronger. Stronger.
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Stronger.
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Halabayaha. Stronger, Ishisa Than ever before. Stronger than ever before. Brighter than ever before. More knowledgeable than ever before. Ha ha. Because of me. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. You understand, that was one of the things that Ed always wanted was a family that loved God and followed God and stayed in God's will and did what God said. And he has just that. Hallelujah. He has just that. God saw through it, that he had, yes, the desires of his heart. And he'll do the same for you. But you have to trust him. You have to trust him. The Holy Spirit just brought this up in my spirit. I just want to share it with you a minute. You know, the reason that there are men of God. There were and are men of God that move so fluently and so easily with the Word and with the Spirit is because they took time to be with me. That's what the spirit of the Lord said, to be with the Lord. They took the time. Me, I know personally, my father, he took the time, you know, when we lived in Van, Texas, and he was pastoring a church. I can remember it so clearly. The parsons were right next door to the church. And after we'd. Whether we were in school or not, after we had our breakfast, whatever our activities we went on to do those, he went over to the church with his Bible. And he would be over there till lunchtime with his Bible, praying, seeking the Lord, breathing the Word, nothing else. And I can remember that as a little child. As a child that impressed. Because I thought that's how my daddy knows what he knows. And even as a child, I recognized. I didn't know what to call it, but I recognized there was anointing on him. You know, I didn't know what to call it, but that's what it was. And I recognized it. And it blessed me, you know, as a child. I mean, it just. It always just blessed me. How, how full of faith, full of the Word, full of the Holy Spirit, full of love that my father was. I mean, it just impressed me so. And it blessed me so. And I always said, father, if I ever have a wish or desire is to be like my daddy. I want to know you. I want to know your word. I want to move with your Holy Spirit. And I always want to love, walk in love. And you know, when you do those things, you're innocent. As a child, you don't understand always exactly what you're doing, but you know that it's there. And as a child, you just express it. You know, children express any and everything they feel. So I would just express it to my father, God. I was always a quiet child. And you heard me say very. I was always very introverted and those kind of things. And God brought me out of that. You know, if he can bring me out of that. He didn't bring you out of whatever you're dealing with, I'm telling you. But the point I want to get over is the commitment. And then allowing the Holy Spirit to help you discipline your carnal self, to walk through in the fullness of that commitment. That's what we need to see and understand. There's not anything else he wants to get over. He wants to get that over to you, the importance of that. But I believe there's many Things that have been said that have penetrated you, that have helped you, that will cause you to be stronger, cause you to begin to mature more and go into the depths with God, into his depths with Him. Amen. Hallelujah. Do you have something we can sing? We need. We need a. We need a good song, A quiet song. That's the prayer. In his presence his fullness of joy so bless the other in his presence.
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In his presence in his presence almost high our hearts cry to you.
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In.
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His presence we cry, holy, holy, holy.
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Holy, holy.
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In your presence.
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In his.
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Presence in his presence almost high Our hearts cry to you in your presence we cry, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy in your presence.
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One more time.
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In your presence in your presence.
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Your presence almost high Our hearts cry.
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To be.
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In your presence we cry holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. In your presence in your presence in your presence in your pres.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah. In his presence in your presence Lord, your wonderful presence that is so filled at this place. Oh, precious Jesus, there's healing in your presence there's deliverance in your presence there's provision in your presence there's everything we need in your presence thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Praise you, my Jesus. Praise you, my Jesus. Ha ha. Hallelujah. In your presence in your presence, fullness of joy, total understanding, completeness in your presence. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Thank you, Father. Praise you, Jesus. Yes, sir. So, so, so, so, so. Thank you.
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In the preciousness of his anointing.
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Say this to you by the word of the Lord and by your permission. But the Lord said to you, my daughter, proceed with caution. Because the closer you and I become, if you continue, you'll be in the same place that Paul was in when he said, I'm betwixt two. And I say this with much love and respect. And almost in fear and trembling, you'll come to that place where Paul was, where he had to make a decision. And it's all right. It's your decision. But you'll come to the place where you'll get so satisfied you can't stay in that body just like your daddy. You're not there yet. But know, know this that I set that before you. It's your choice, but proceed with caution. But go back and remember what Paul said to his disciples at that time. He said, it's more needful for you that I stay. Hallelujah. Thank you, my Lord. Thank you, Lord Jesus.
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Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. In your presence we do have something. Our hearts cry to you.
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In your presence we cry, Holy, Holy, Holy, holy.
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Sa. This is the vibration today.
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Eyes.
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Eyes to see. We have eyes to see. There are some that don't need to see because they already see. But for those a dumb, like the prophet of God, who said, open the eyes of his servant that he could see that there are so many with us. Father, I thank you. I came here to thank you for the people of God in our lives, those in heaven and those on the earth. But I'm here to say hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. We rejoice. We rejoice for those that you've given us. And we thank you that we're one family.
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Yes.
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But I ask you, please stay. Please stay. Can we all agree?
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Oh my, oh my, oh my.
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We're so thankful for this lady and the family. A grandste. My grand Staugres day. And so a responsibility comes to all of us this day. Broche Teleke. Because there are axes that are about to float. There are miracles by natural suspension that are about to take place in the earth. And then there are miracles that are about to take place by the working of miracles on another degree where Jesus just looked up to heaven and gave thanks and multiplication took place.
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You see?
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But there are axes in your life that are about to float. So don't be surprised when God speaks to you. Throw a stick. The prophet threw a stick. Where did the axe fall? And he threw a stick. And it seems so absurd to us all as we read the story. And an axe floated. And he gave instruction words. Pick it up. Pick it up. And we have a responsibility to stand with the wonderful people of God. We have to pick it up. Pick it up. We're gonna pick it up. Together. Together. We're gonna pick it up. We're gonna pick it up. We're gonna pick it up. I speak strength and blessing and wisdom. Hallelujah. Who wants to pick it up? Who wants to get out there and pick up that axe? Who wants to pick up dead things that have been floated in the bottom of the river? Hallelujah. We're gonna dig up those things in the bottom of the river. Nothing's holding back this church. Nothing. Nothing. In the mighty name of Jesus, kick over that axe in Jesus name. Because we're on the cusp. Hallelujah. It's our duty and it's our right to live supernaturally Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And if a need looks at you, you just say this. Jesus already met. He already met you. In Jesus name.
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I love you. I love you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Yeah. Will you notice was Happy speaking by the spirit of God. He said, I'm not there yet. And I'm not. And I'm not going anywhere. I still got a lot to do. I still got a lot to say. It's for your benefit and mine of course. So I'm blessed because Happy Spirit was showing the heart of the Father to me about me and beyond words, how it ministers to your heart because you hear the voice of the Father speaking to you. And we all have that choice. And I have the choice. I know God and I'm moving with God. But I'm not going anywhere because I know I'm not done. But you know, because I do have that relationship with him. If I decided I wanted to, I could just like that. But I don't want to because I know that I'm not done. I know that the enemy's tried to hinder me in many, many ways. But I've kept the faith. I speak his word. I allow the Holy Spirit to work in and through me. Therefore I am. Behold. Hallelujah. I am. Love you guys. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Well, Nancy, Hallelujah. Come on. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.
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As Dad Hagen said. How do you stop that? You just unhook. Because no one wants to end this. Aren't we glad we're in the room tonight? You can only minister to the place that you minister from. And tonight what came out of her spirit came into our spirits. This is not head to head, emotions to emotions, or soul to soul only. It's from our. The heart of. Thank you, the Father, through her heart to our heart. When we're changed, this is what we came for. This is what we came for. We are changed from glory to glory. On the other side of change is greater glory. And we came here for these. What a day today has been.
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Wonderful. Awesome.
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What a day today has been. So we treat it as God has gifted it honorably. And so I would say, as you're getting ready for bed or getting ready in the morning, let's watch it again over and over and over and over. You know, God said something to me just a couple of weeks before Ed went home to be with the Lord. He said he kept saying this to me in my presence. You'll weep. And that's true. You get in his Presence. And who. And I'm not a weeper. I'm talking about naturally. You know, some people, they. I'm just not. So when I do. We know. But he said that, to say this to me, because when Ed went home, weepings would come, and it was not the event, it was the presence of the Lord comforting. And I would yield to that and I would find myself in a further place with God instead of in a further place with the event. And so many times people face difficulties and you may sense weepings and you just think it's the event moving you emotionally. And it's really the presence of the Lord trying to dominate that with himself. Amen.
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Amen.
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I was. My husband and I were flying back home from. We had been in Siberia, and we flew from Abakan, Siberia, to Moscow. And we were standing in the security line at the airport and Ed was facing forward in the security line and I was facing back backwards, talking to Ed because the line was long and we were waiting. And he said, as I was talking to him, he said, huh? That healing anointing, that tangible healing anointing just came in my hand. I said, well, turn around and look what just rolled up behind you. And there was a. A man, I would say, maybe in his late 20s, early 30s. And he was completely deformed and dwarfed, but in a wheelchair and had legs no longer than this. And he's sitting in that wheelchair, completely deformed. And I said to Ed, are you going to minister to him? He said, no. And I always wondered about that. But he was my Bible school, so I paid attention. But Brother Norville, sometime later answered that for me. Ed knew what to do or what not to do do with that anointing just because he sensed it. You have to know what to do with what you sense. And I love something brother Norville said. He said the anointing of God is an enemy to sickness and sickness is an enemy to the anointing. And when the enemy shows up, the anointing shows itself. And basically he was just saying the anointing showed up to show itself strong than what rolled up. And I want you to know the presence of God that's within you is greater than anything that shows up against you.
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Amen.
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And if you'll yield, Amen. And sometimes you think that you're weeping because of the cause. That's natural. Processing it, turn it. If you'll turn this way, you'll realize it's the anointing within rising up, springing up to deal with that thing by the anointing of his presence so that you're not just trying to do. Deal with it on your own. And tonight we saw a demonstration of what it means to live in his presence. And every day In Psalm chapter 9, verse 3, My enemies shall fall and perish at his presence. Mine enemies shall fall and perish at his presence. And when the enemy comes to. I mean, God said something to me sometime back, and God had told me to do something, and I did it. And the enemy said, you just now put yourself in a bad place by doing that. And I answered, because you answer with the word. And I said, devil, I never put myself in a bad place obeying God, never. And the devil kept saying that and kept saying that, and I just kept answering that. And that went on for. For 30 minutes. I was sitting at Southwest Believers. Brother Copeland was preaching. I didn't hear a word he said because I was dealing with this. And God's God rebuked me after 30 minutes. He said, if you would live in my presence, you wouldn't even have to listen to that. And he said, it's your fault that you're hearing it because you're too accessible. And that's exactly what Psalm 91, verse 8 says, that we shall be inaccessible, amplified. We shall be inaccessible in the presence of the Lord. So if I find myself being too troubled, I don't. I repent. I don't necessarily rebuke the devil. I repent for being too accessible. Because we're all. We're authorized to live from a higher place, the place of his presence.
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Presence.
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Amen. Thank you, Miss Pat. Life changing. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Holy Ghost. Thank you, Jesus. In John 17, verse 3, Jesus was speaking to the Father about the hour that he was facing. And he said, and this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God and the one that you have sent. And so now know this. This is what eternal life is. Knowing him. Knowing him. So thank you for helping us to know him better. And aren't you thankful that God leads you to people who will lead you to Him? We're not. God doesn't lead us to people so that we can be impressed with people, but he leads us to those who will lead us to him. And the more we see him, the more more impressed we are with him. He keeps impressing me time and time and time and time again. Amen. We'll praise the Lord. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner, or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: In His Presence, Part 1 | Pat Harrison | Ladies Conference 2025 | Tuesday PM
Date: September 16, 2025
This episode, featuring guest minister Pat Harrison at the Ladies Conference 2025, explores the depth of living and walking "In His Presence"—experiencing ongoing fellowship with God. The message weaves together personal stories, scriptural insights, prophetic words, and practical encouragement to cultivate a lifestyle centered in God’s presence. The recurring theme is that knowing God intimately, not merely knowing about Him, is the key to fullness of joy, spiritual growth, and effective ministry.
"His presence is always a part of me. All the time. I'm aware of his presence. ...I can be in the grocery store and I feel the presence of the Lord. Why? Because he is with me. I have practiced that, and I have learned how important it is to always be in his presence." —Pat Harrison (03:05)
"It's not what you do. It's who you are. And know that I am in you and you in me...Many forget that the whole purpose for my creation of man was for fellowship." —Prophetic utterance (07:01)
"In his presence is to know him. ...It's always been such a privilege to call [spiritual friends] my friends...It's unusual for a lot of people because it's spiritual. It is not earthly." —Pat Harrison (03:05, paraphrased)
"The Holy Spirit, through your spirit man, can communicate his words, thoughts and attitudes to you fully. But you have to be listening. It takes the commitment to get in the word of God..." —Pat Harrison (27:00)
"Don't just really make these words a matter of notes. What I'm speaking to you is the word of wisdom...Their spirit words. They've gone already before." —Prophetic utterance (30:15, 32:13)
"If you would live in my presence, you wouldn't even have to listen to that. ...It's your fault that you're hearing it because you're too accessible." —(89:20)
"We must know God and his innermost nature to make him known to the world. So you can see why the Church has not made him known to the world, because there's not that depth of knowing Him. They know about him, but they don't have that depth of knowing him..." —Pat Harrison (41:30)
The heart of this message is simple yet profound: true transformation, joy, and effectiveness flow only from intimate fellowship with God. Living continually "in His presence" is both a choice and a discipline, requiring faithfulness, mercy, and growing in genuine knowledge of Him. The Holy Spirit is our helper in this—drawing us deeper, helping us discipline our flesh, and enabling us to walk supernaturally. Through stories, teaching, and prophetic words, listeners are called to greater commitment and to immediate, confident obedience to God’s voice.
“This is life eternal: that they might know Thee, the only true God...” (John 17:3, discussed at 90:53).
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