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In The Spirit, Part 1 | Joel & Amy Siegel | Paducah, KY | Wednesday AM | Miracle Crusade 2023
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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Welcome, everybody, to the morning service. Miracles in the morning. Glory to God. In the morning, in the evening. These services have been so rich, such an honor and pleasure to be here with you guys. And I hope you're just as, well, like I say, jazzed to be here as I am. And it doesn't get tiring being in the presence of God. I mean, it's like every. Every time you experience him can be like your first time. And there's always more is the thing about it. He's. He. There's never a time where he just starts airing reruns, you know what I mean? Because he. He ran out. And so. So there's some things I believe the Lord will have us increase in, and I'm in line for that. So this morning, we want to look at a couple things in the word. Glory to God. Where we start. That's a good question, I think. Ephesians, the sixth chapter. Oh, praise him. Praise him, Praise him. When I pastored for 11 years in upstate New York, western New York State, and we had a Sunday morning service, we had a midweek service on Wednesdays, and I got to thinking, you know, after that was all said and done, we were gone of something. I did almost every service, and especially every midweek service was I probably took five or 10 minutes before we got into whatever the assignment was. And I would just, you know, you could use the word exhort or encourage the people on how to receive and how to respond just because really nothing else that's done in the service matters in a sense, if that's not in place, you know. And so all of us have one thing in common, flesh. And everybody's flesh don't, you know, can be like mine is on days when, you know, if the sun's not out and it's gray or whatever, you know, whatever the case may, you can wake up and your flesh will say, let's just not. Whatever we're supposed to do spiritually today, let's just not. Let's just skip it. Let's just. But how many know. You got to discipline that thing? And, you know, you can. You can get to where you can come to church and you're physically present, but things aren't. You're not engaged like you should be. You're not receptive like you should be. And so I realized on those Wednesday night services, I would always spend time talking about the reason for it talking about how to do it and just encouraging folk. And it made my life easier. And isn't that what it's all about, making my life easier? You know, but not only that, it made it easier, of course, for God to do what he wanted to do. And so let me encourage you this morning, if the sun wasn't out like you thought it would be out still, and if you, if you stayed up late last night fellowshipping, went out for ice cream like they was talking about in the service, wake it up, turn it on, tune it in, praise God and I'll do the same thing. And how many know God's going to help us today? Yes, he is. There's a verse I know you're familiar with in the sixth chapter of Ephesians, but it's a verse you could preach on from now until, you know, years after Jesus comes and just never exhaust it. There's so much in it. And it's the 18th verse and it says this. Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. This is one of the verses, actually. This would probably be the main text that Brother Hagin used in all of his years of preaching on prayer. And it was an emphasis of his. I got to be in meetings with him. He called them his Holy Ghost meetings. I was in the very first one all the way through the last one of those. Sister Regina, who was leading worship today, she was there with us in all those meetings. And in all those meetings, he spent those morning meetings focusing on the subject of prayer. The evening meetings were focused on the person and the work, or we'd say the moving of the Holy Spirit. And a lot of times healing was an emphasis in there, real similar to the meetings we're having here now. And so, I mean, if I heard him preach on this once, I heard him preach on it hundreds of times. You know, when you think about recordings and being there in person, and he always preached on this verse because it really hits it, you know what I'm saying? It kind of hits things. Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, supplication is a little known, you know, not talk to. We just don't use that word in our vocabulary too much supplication. But it really means petition, or what is petition? It's what you ask. It's what you ask. So he separates asking from what he calls all prayer. Isn't that interesting? And where it says Praying always with all prayer. That word prayer actually is the Greek word that could be translated worship. And it has the idea, and it's inclusive of praise, worship, thanksgiving. And I always throw rejoicing in there because that's a spiritual expression. Praying always with all prayer, praise, worship, thanksgiving, rejoicing and asking and supplication in the Spirit. Praise the Lord and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. Did you know that that's your job, praying for all saints? How are you supposed to do that? Well, with God's help for sure. Because how many here are like me? You don't even know all of them. You know, you do know. I think here in this astute gathering, you understand, when it's talking about saints, it's not talking about St. Andrew, you know what I mean? It's not talking about the ones that other groups have categorized as sainthood. If you've been born again, you've been elevated to sainthood. You're looking at St. Joel today. Yes, you are. Yeah, I am St. Joel. As much as Paul was St. Paul or Peter was St. Peter. Yeah, you might say, who do you think you are? I sorry, I'm just ready to. What God said. I think I am who God said I am. That'll get you in trouble with people, but it still is true. You should think you are who God says you are.
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Yeah.
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That's why St. Alvin. Come on, baby, You the saints. Any born again person has achieved sainthood. Yeah. As many people have said, many other preachers, you're either a saint or you ain't. And if you ain't, you need to be. Only the saints go marching in. It's true. It's just true. It's true. You know, we began talking the other day about this idea of the spiritual realm. Not an idea of the reality, I should say the reality of the spiritual realm. And talk to you about how Jesus, when he prayed, he ended up in a place where the supernatural was able to manifest. We're in what I like to call it because the Lord spoke it to me one time many years ago. The miracle flow, you hear me use that term a lot. We're in the flow of the miraculous. How many know we can go deeper in that flow or we can just kind of graze it, you know what I mean? Just kind of brush it. The supernatural belongs to us and that is in the spiritual realm, you know? Remember I talked to you about how you saint you your three parts, right? Your spirit, soul and body. And your spirit has been designed to function in the spirit realm. There's things you can do in the spirit realm. And we want to continue talking about that. And we read this verse here in Ephesians because it uses this phrase in the spirit. In the spirit. Look with me, if you would, to John, not John, written by John, Revelation, the first chapter. And this. This phrase in the spirit, most people have heard it. If you've read the New Testament, you've heard it. But I feel like there's light where this phrase is concerned that we need to bring out. Thanks for your excitement. But, you know, it's just true. I'm so thankful that brother Kenneth Hagin would preach along these lines, and I got to hear it. But still, how many know our generation needs it. So John the Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation, and it was really came out of an experience he had. And verse nine says, I, John, who also am your brother and companion in tribulation and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. So where was John physically? His body? Yes, he was on the isle of Patmos physically. But then he says in verse 10, I was. He doesn't say, I was in Patmos. He says, I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day and heard. And heard. There's a connection there I want you to see. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day and heard behind me a great voice that said something. And then verse 12 says, and then I turned to see the voice. In other words, there was something that he saw. So this. This reality of the spiritual realm, it was a place where once he was in the Spirit, he heard some things and he saw some things. Now, this phrase in the Spirit is really used two different kind of two different ways in the Bible. We read both of them. We read in Ephesians 6:18, praying with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit. And then here in Revelation, John says, I was in the Spirit. And this phrase is used to denote here in Revelation, what we could call a state of existence. I was in the Spirit. Or can we just say it this way? A place. A place, but not a physical location, because we know he gives us his physical location. He was on the isle of Patmos. How many are like me that you. When you picture the Isle of Patmos, you picture in the cartoons when they were stranded on an island. And what is it? There's just one palm tree right One palm tree and the little patch of land. And if you was gonna. If you was gonna strand an apostle somewhere, to me, that's where you'd wanna put them. But they might have had an airport and everything at Patmos. I don't know. Probably not. But maybe they do.
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Maybe they do.
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Today you might say, brother Joel, you might should study these things. You're right. Praise the Lord. But I haven't. Because if I read the scholar's book, they would probably tell me all about the Isle of Patmos. Can we please get back to what we're supposed to be preaching on? He was in the spirit. He was in this. A spiritual place called in the Spirit. When we're talking about this place in the Spirit, the phrase in the spirit is really short. Or a short way of saying in the spiritual realm. In the spirit is talking about being in the spiritual realm. What's the spiritual realm? That's where God exists. God is not just a concept. He's not a figment. God is more real than you've ever thought about being real. And the realm in which he exists, literally, you want to say physically, but really spiritually. God is substance. There's nothing just imaginary, you understand about him. And so this realm, this world, the idea of more than just this earthly realm has occupied the fantasy life of people from. I mean, for how long? For centuries. I mean, every superhero movie. That's why I grew up. I loved superhero movies. I loved comic books. We didn't have superhero movies when we had some. But, like, you know, when Superman was flying back in those movies, you could see the string, you know what I'm saying? We didn't have no cgi. We didn't have no Facebook filters. We didn't have none of that stuff that. No green screen back then. So we had comic books where he could really. I can fly. I can fly. I can fly. I. What was that? Dumbo. Anyhow, it's something where we had all that stuff, you know, But. But the reason that's so. We so gravitate towards that is there's something in us that was born to operate in a realm in a world beyond our natural world to be. I tell you, it's no kind of life to be limited to this natural world. And the lost person, unless they get into some kind of satanic activity, they're limited to this world. And that's why they speak with such certainty. A recession is coming, or this is. And really they don't know, but they're probably right because at some point or Another what's broken will continue to act broken. And so you have all of the systems, this world system that Ephesians 2 calls it the course of this world, this world system is, is not getting better and better and better.
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Huh?
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It's a broken, propped up, declining system that's headed for a great renovation someday. And to be limited to this world system, that's, that's a, that's a bad thing. But the Christian has been loosed, has been freed to function in a, in a realm, in a. There's a kingdom, there's. It's called the kingdom of God, that, where you can operate laws in this spiritual realm and you can live life beyond just life in the natural. You have to learn the laws of the kingdom. Well, that's what this is. How many? Remember Jesus said Matthew 6:33, Seek first the kingdom of God, his righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Well, see, every kingdom has laws. There's laws to this spiritual realm. And by cooperating with those laws, that's how you and I operate in the spiritual realm. The law of faith, one of the big laws, the law of sowing and reaping, these are all laws of the spiritual realm, just like the physical, the laws of physics that we have in this realm. But yeah, you're not limited as a believer. There is no sense in which the believer should operate solely in the natural. If a believer only operates in the natural, they're either ignorant of what God has said or they're what the Bible calls a carnal Christian, meaning they're so flesh ruled that they're not able to operate in the spiritual realm. They're not receptive and responsive to it, and therefore they're confined to the limits of the natural. But he that is spiritual, First Corinthians 2 says he discerns all things. He can go places. He can go places. How many want to go places beyond what's in the natural? And see, the good thing about this is you can have college degrees or you can not have college degrees and still do all that God wants you to do. If right now that's not true in the natural all the time. For every. There's times where you have to have had this advantage or born on this side. We say this side of the tracks. But you have to know in the spirit realm, you get your own set of tracks.
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God put you on the fast track. He put you. Yeah, thank you for your help. He puts you on the fast track.
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Gets you out of the rat race.
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And onto the Fast track. And you can go places and do things that you couldn't ordinarily do. What Jesus called having life more abundantly. Glory to God.
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If you're watching online, you're wondering what this is.
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This is good preaching. This is God helping.
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This is what?
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This is God helping.
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Yeah, but, yeah, everything that we make the movies about, we spent all last week in Orlando at the happiest place on earth, they call it Disney. And we were there with our daughter, blessing her. And the whole thing is based on fantasy. The whole thing is based on going beyond the natural. But it's not fantasy to us. This is our reality. Amen. So it's possible to operate in the spiritual realm. So I'm talking to you about this phrase in the spirit. One of the. One of the applications or uses of this phrase in the spirit is to be in this place called the spiritual realm. That's the God realm. That's the realm where God exists and operates. And you can be there like John was to where you are. More, when we say, when John says I was in the spirit, he's talking about a place where he's more conscious of the spiritual realm than he is of the natural realm. Now, an important thing to understand is you can be in this spiritual realm by degree, meaning you can be more or less there. You can be somewhat there, or you could be there to the point that really you are unaware of your physical existence. You can be unaware of your physical location. Paul over in the 12th chapter of Second Corinthians, 12th chapter, Paul said, I knew a man in Christ 14 years ago. Whether in the body or out of the body. I can't tell such because I was. He said, I was caught up.
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I was caught up.
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What's he saying? He said, I don't know whether I don't know whether my body was with me or not. Folk talk about out of body experiences. Well, that's possible.
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It's possible.
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You can go places. You can go places without an airline, without a bus ticket. You can go places as the Lord would, as the Lord wills. We sometimes tell the story of the prayer. Who? Somebody asked her sister, what you been up to, what you've been doing? She says, I've been in the Oval.
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Office.
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Under the desk, taking out the trash. See, you can go to Washington D.C. without security clearance. My wife talked yesterday. I encourage you to go back, listen to that message about letting the Holy Spirit guide you into this realm. But it's not an unusual thing. I mean, it doesn't happen every time we Pray. It doesn't happen every day, but it's not an unusual thing for maybe my wife or I, we'll pray and she'll talk to me about God took her somewhere. Now, it might not have been like Paul's experience, whether in the body or out of the body, most of the time you're conscious of your physical state, but you're also conscious that you're going somewhere, taking care of some things. Yeah. And now this is important. This is important. It's important to make yourself available, position yourself to go to the spiritual realm as God would lead you and take you. You might say, brother Joel, this sounds awful lot like some far out New Age teaching. I know, but I can't help it if they took the Bible and just twisted it a little bit. It doesn't mean we stopped preaching the Bible just because somebody took parts of it and twisted it. We still preach the truth. This is the truth upon which their perversion is based. We're not preaching that you can just take field trips like we say. We're not preaching that you can do that at your will. But if you follow the spirit, you can see things, hear things, deal with things. And when you're in the spirit, when you're in this state of being more over in the God realm, I'm telling you, as God helps you there, you can speak to things and your words will have an effect that they won't have purely in the natural, you understand. It's like everything about you takes on more of the properties of God. You see. And really you as a resident on earth, you can, you know, Satan's called the God of this world, but you can kick him out. When you're in the spirit realm, you can take that place and it's a place of authority. It's a place of declaring things and decreeing things, dealing with things. You know, there's times, not every day, not every time we go to pray certainly, but there are times where we deal with demonic forces, demon there now. And not every Christian will experience this. That's okay. But there's times where I see into this spiritual realm. I mean frequently in my office because it's part of it, my ministry office. I'm talking about, I'll see. Not with the physical eyes, most of the most, all the time. But I'll see spirit beings, sometimes not. I'm not trying to draw attention to me, I'm just, I'm just saying that these things are realities. There's times I'll, I'll see angels now. It's interesting. A lot of times it's not when I'm ministering as much as it's when I'm in a service where there's a strong spiritual flow. And maybe Pastor Nancy somebody else will be ministering. But I can describe some of the angels she's talking about. Those 50, there's some of them. I can tell you what they look like and what they're wearing at different times. And so you can see these things. There's times where I see demon spirits, not with my physical eyes, but on the inse you can see there's eyes of your spirit that can be opened up and you can see things. Well, when I'm in the spirit and I deal with demonic forces, it's a much different thing than just because I know to do it. Binding and loosing. Did that make any sense how I said it? Please jump in and help me out when I need help. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. There's times whether I'll discern it and just know it. And often that's the way it works. You just know it. You sense that there's a demonic force and being there in that place of what we call in the spirit, you can deal with it with a level of effectiveness that you don't need anybody to tell you that it worked or that it didn't work. Sometimes you can see these things commanding angels. Now it's right to do that. It's right to put the angels to work. Just when you release your faith, you understand that. But you get over in the spirit and you do these things prompted by the spirit, then there's a level of effectiveness that you get into it. Do you think we need this kind of. You think we need things like this today? Amen. There's been different times where I'll see demon spirits again. Not trying to draw attention to me. I'm trying to illustrate these things and these truths about being in the spirit. But there's times I'll see it and I mean they're creepy, just creepy. Make the hair stand up on your head. But when I see it, I know just by the spirit I know exactly how to deal with it, exactly what to say, exactly what to do. And sometimes I'll watch it go. Not all the time. Can I make that happen? Can't make that happen. But we can position ourselves to be used to as God wills. Whether you see things, whether you just know things, you can get in the spirit. Praise the Lord. Are we helping anybody today? John was in the spirit now, over in the fourth chapter of Revelation. I'm sorry, Revelation. Is that where we were? Revelation 1. Revelation 4. 4. Praise him. Praise Him. The first verse said, after this I looked, and behold, a door was opened in heaven. The first voice which I heard was, as it were, of a trumpet talking with me. No saxophones, but that's all right. Which said, come up hither and I will show you things which must be hereafter. Look at this. Verse 2. And immediately I was in the Spirit. That's pretty cool. You can. John was immediately in the Spirit, suddenly in the Spirit. So you can go. You can go. You can find yourself in this place suddenly or immediately, and you can go there progressively. Now, I made this statement the first day, and I'll reiterate it today, that how do you move towards this place progressively? Because you can't put yourself in the Spirit. Suddenly you. Yourself, you can position yourself. You can live in such a way. I'll give you an example what I mean from Brother Hagin's ministry. He talks about where he was preaching for a minister in Broken Bow, Oklahoma. Most of you have heard Broken Arrow. Do you know there's a bow that's just as broken as the Arrow is broken? Broken Bow is a much smaller. Broken Arrow is just a suburb of Tulsa. We lived there in the good old 74012 for many years in Broken Arrow. That's the zip code there. Broken Bow is a much smaller area. But Brother Hagin was preaching in a church there in the early 1950s, and he was with a pastor after the service, having a sandwich. Having a sandwich. Is there anything less spiritual right than eating a sandwich? And the time got away and it got real late, and the pastor's daughter came in and said, dad, you got to put me to bed. You got to pray with me. And the pastor said, well, let's just all pray right here. Brother Hagin will pray with us. Because they were in the kitchen eating. And Brother Hagin said, when I kneeled down, suddenly I was in the Spirit. And it's like the floor disappeared, like the ceiling disappeared. It's like I kneeled down in a cloud. And he began to, just like John, he began to hear things, see things, and get instruction of how to deal with things. And he dealt with things in the spiritual realm while he was in that state of being in the Spirit and was able to take care of things with an effectiveness that you couldn't just work up on your, you know, it's right to do things by faith just because, you know to do them, but there's a degree of effectiveness that. That's important. And so he was immediately in the spirit. Well, he couldn't do that himself. He couldn't decide, I'm going to kneel down on a cloud and everything's going to disappear. Right. But you can live. He wasn't carnal. You could live in such a way that even if God wanted to put you there, it'd be difficult because you're just so locked into the natural. Right. So anyhow, you can. You can go to this place called in the Spirit suddenly, as God would desire, but you can also go there progressively. And you can. You can move towards the spirit realm. You can move towards this realm as you will. You can move toward it. You can't always get to the place where you're more conscious of his. Of the God realm than you are the physical realm, but you can make movement toward it. And I said this the other day, and I want to repeat it because it's so essential that. Because you want to know, don't you? How do I move toward it? Right. That's what you were asking me. How do I move toward it? All godly spiritual activity moves you towards the spiritual realm. All godly spiritual activity. I say godly because there's demonic spiritual activity, but all godly spiritual activity moves you toward the spiritual realm. What are we talking about, spiritual activity? You know what we're talking about? One of the first levels of spiritual activity is praise and worship and thanksgiving. We. We've been talking about it really since the first service this week. And it's the reason the body of Christ needs to understand these things. Because it's not just that we want you to sing better. I mean, we do want you to say, I want to sing better. Lord knows I want to sing better. But it's not just that. That's spiritual activity that moves you toward the spiritual realm. And when a congregation collectively engages in spiritual activity, it moves the whole congregation toward the. Toward the spiritual realm. And what are some of the characteristics of that realm? You hear things more, you see things more. And it's like a merging. Yeah. A merging of the God realm to the natural, where you can operate between the two. Yes. You understand, friends, that when we come together in these services, it's not that we're here hoping and a praying that God would do something, but you must understand that. That when he dealt with Pastor Nancy have these meetings, that from that point, from that point when he first said, do these make these apart? And if you hear her testimony, she says that she's known about these and seen herself doing this just really for decades. Right. But there came a time where he dealt with her. Now's the time. It's time for miracles. Right? And that was that really, that statement that was like a catalyst for her, I believe that, that, that she knew this was time for this. Well, we'll see. When God decreed that, when God ordained that or assigned that what was included. I mean, he already supplied and made available all the miracles. He wouldn't deal with her. Have the miracles go to this location. Go to this location. Go to this location and then provide all the, all the means to do it. Right. Provide the locations and then forget about the actual. No, he gave when he said it. There's a sense in which he gave it meaning. The heavens, the windows of heaven are open. The windows of heaven are open. We're not here, we're not here with a crowbar trying to pry open the windows of heaven, right? No, the windows of heaven are open. Jesus has already paid for everything that you would need. Whatever area of the miraculous you need, it's been paid for, it's been provided. In other words, it's here. It's here and available. If you could see. Ah, ah, ah. If you could see clearly in the spiritual realm, if you could clearly see. If I could clearly see, you would realize we ain't begging.
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You'd realize, wait a second, this ain't.
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Our idea, that we're not trying to.
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Get God on board with our idea. Oh, my Lord. This is all available. And so really the great need is.
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Just to help people learn how to access and receive what's already. Hello.
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Hello.
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That's really what we're doing here. That's why we're teaching this in the mornings. That's why pastors preaching on certain things in the evening. What is it? Not to, not to get God on board. Come on now.
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To get us to a place of just receiving, just receiving.
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Spiritual activity. The praise and worship. The praise and worship. You thought, and sometimes you think preachers might think that that's just to give people time to get in to the building so, so that we don't miss them when it's offering time, right?
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No, that's not the whole, the whole purpose is not just to give the late comers time to get in and find a seat. But you wonder sometimes because you'll see people chit chat. I mean, not here, not here, but I'm saying in other meetings, in other places, you'll see. Ah, you'll see preachers just chit chat going down the road. Like, is God moving or is God not moving? Is this not spiritual activity that's supposed to move us into. I'm not saying, I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying?
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That's spiritual activity. The offering, we said it the other day, that is spiritual. All spiritual activity. If you engage in it long enough, it will move you into the spiritual realm. Prayer, prayer. Prayer in your known language, prayer in other tongues. It's spiritual activity that will move you into the spiritual realm. Now, I don't know if I'm going to get to it. Probably not today, going to get to it. But I want to tell you more about this phrase in the spirit, in the progressive sense and help you understand some things about progressing further into the spiritual realm. Safely. Safely. Hands and feet inside the ride at all times.
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Make sure the bar is down.
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Come on, man, because yeah, come on, please come help. Please come help.
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There's things to do, places to go, people to see, political offices to clean out, repopulate. Hallelujah. Glory to God.
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Glory to God. Well, you know, when you get a new device, most of the time it comes with an instruction booklet. And a lot of times it doesn't always start with the instructions. It starts with the warning. Warning. Right. Like don't use the hairdryer in the bathtub. You know, like, who would do that? But obviously somebody somewhere.
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Multitaskers.
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Yeah, the multitaskers. And so if I, if I could, we've gotten some instruction and I'm just ready to hear more about the progression and how to progress in these things. But warning. Okay, warning. When your heart's desire is to enter into this spirit realm and cooperate with him, your safety is being connected to your local church. Because here's what happens. People get involved in their local church. They might even just for the first time get filled with the Spirit. They might start participating in prayer groups and they might start entering into this realm and they might see something, they might know something by the Spirit. And that I don't know about you, that's exciting to me whenever I receive something from the Spirit, that's precious. But if we're immature or we just haven't gotten a lot of grounding in these things, what I've seen in the past, of course not here, but you know, in other churches, people will get these glimpses and they'll start to think I've arrived. I see and know all that God wants me to see and know. And they start to think I Don't need this church anymore. And they'll decide, you know, the Lord dealt with me to stay home on Sunday morning and just pray.
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Ask us how we know the. Ask us how we know about this. Y' all never had that church member, but we actually we did.
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We had that church member. Praise the Lord. You know, and to a degree, so certain ones are very. They do see things in the spirit and know things by the spirit, but because they don't stay planted in their local church and stay connected to their pastor, they start to become ineffective. In other words, they are subject not just to the Holy Spirit, but to other spirits that. That are in that realm. And you will never graduate to a point where you don't need your pastor.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. How come it's like everything comes back to the local church that truth, doesn't it, about being planted.
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Yes.
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Praise the Lord. What else about this?
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Well, you could just also say, you know, for ministers, that means being connected to the ministry God's connected you to. You know, this is not just for the laity. This is for all of us. Where would we be if we hadn't stayed properly connected?
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Oh, amen. Amen.
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Praise the Lord.
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Praise.
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Praise God.
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Hallelujah.
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We're grateful to have been to come up under people who were skilled in these things. I mean, I'm not talking, certainly not preaching about something that I learned on my own. And we say all the time, thank God we got to be around Brother Hagin and learn some of these things. And then I got to tell you, friends, I mean, my time with Dr. Dufresne and of course, Pastor Nancy, all these years, they've been skillful in these things. And so I'm not preaching anything, hopefully, that I'm making up.
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No, no, no.
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But just want to bring some light to these things, because is it important to make progress if you want to go further and deeper into the realm of the miraculous? Where you see some of what I'm convinced God has for there's. I'm convinced that God has some things for us that we not yet experienced and seen. I'm convinced that it's God's will for lines of people with down syndrome and learning disabilities. And all we should be was redemption for them, too. Yes. For all kinds of deformities, healings, and different things. Well, see, learning how to progress into the spiritual realm gets. What did we say? It brings you closer to where things are recognized, seen, and accessed easier, and we're interested in that. So this morning, we're going to make movement, spiritual activity. The spiritual activity of praise, worship, prayer, praying in other tongues. And we're going to make movement toward the spiritual realm. Now, I said this to you. Sometimes it's doing those things long enough will move you there. Praise the Lord. And so that's why we don't just take two minutes, three minutes. I mean, if that's what we're supposed to do, we do. But we're going to take, you know, whatever appropriate amount of time we need to today to just position ourselves right and go where we're supposed to go. Has this been okay this morning? Listen, I want to say something. I just want to make a disclaimer. I'm pretty confident on what I'm. That what I'm preaching is the Bible. Just been doing it long enough. I try not to preach stuff that I've only seen yesterday for the first time, you know, but if you hear. If you hear our leaders, if you hear Pastor Nancy say it different, go with what she said and forget about what I said. Okay? I just want to make that disclaimer. We're guests in these meetings, and so we're not trying to do the wrong thing or drop stuff or nothing like that. Break stuff. Praise the Lord. You ready to pray some this morning? I know that was a lot of teaching and all that, but it's helpful. You know, I've been wanting to minister that in these meetings for. Since we started. It's been on my heart and just felt like we had the unction to do some of it this week. So you're the blessed recipients. If you want to change your position, you don't have to stand the whole time. Want you to be in a place where you can yield the most comfortably. But if you want to start standing up, let's just start standing up just to change your position. And. And you're welcome to sit down at whatever point you want to do that. And let's just see where God would take us this morning. Hallelujah, Father, we're grateful again today for the privilege of prayer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the great Holy Spirit, our guide, our teacher, our helper, our comforter. Counselor, thank you. We follow your leading today. We follow your counsel today as you give us utterance to pray. Thank you, Father, for your plan for our day. Thank you for this great flow of the miraculous and all that's in it and all that we desire to see. We want what you want. We desire what you'd have. And we thank you, Master, for helping us pray along these lines. And Jesus name. What we know what to see. Regasty got tabatic.
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Thank you for the.
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Radeles. Channel.
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Norde, Chandrago, Chandra, Jellycomb, jellicoe. Saturday jalakos.
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Sadi gali. Pride. Terrible. Terrible. The hind. Hindrances are removed. Hindrances are removed.
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And so now we call for the lands. We call for the buildings.
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We call for all that's needed in this body.
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You come. You come in Jesus name, ministry experience.
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You gone.
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Unusual. Unusual favor. That's never. We've never seen that happen. We've never seen that happen but before. We've never seen that happen before. Well, they've never. You've never been there before. Business.
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Yeah.
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The businesses.
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Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
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To call.
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No, no.
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It's not just a natural business.
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Thank you for the. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Oh, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Oh, my.
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Thank you. Thank you for the debt. For the. Oh, my. Oh, my. Thank you. That one. We say you live and not die. You live and not die. Speak. I speak. Speak.
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Strength.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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My.
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Mama.
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Mama.
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Mama. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, father. Thank you, father. Thank you. Thank you, father. Thank you, father. Thank you, father.
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That. Careful.
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The right way. The right way. The right way. The right way. The right way.
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Oh, you take it. You take care. You cut out a p. You.
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Can'T.
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You can't just do. You can't just do those things. You can't. You can't just. You can't just do those things. You can't. You can't. Can't. You can't. You can't just do those. Without. Without consequences. Without consequence.
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For the supplies.
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What would we. What would we do? What would we do? What had become of me had I not believed?
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To see.
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See the goodness of the lord and the land of the living. Ascending. Ascending.
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There.
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Thank you. Thank you for the. For the flood, flood, flood, flood stage of the reign of the spirit. Spirit, Spirit. Flood, flood, flood stage. Flood stage.
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Waters, waters to swim. I see it.
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Yes. Yes.
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I see it. I see it and I say it. I see it, so I say it. Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. Rearranging the landscape as it were. Spiritually. Spiritually speaking. Unrecognizable. Unrecognizable.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow.
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Oh, my.
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Wow.
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Oh, my. My, my, my. Oh, yes.
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Yes, yes.
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Let it. Let it be. It shall be so. It shall be so. It shall be so. Thank you, sir. Thank you, master. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. In your presence, fullness of joy at your right hand. Pleasure forevermore. Glory, glory.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for your goodness. Thank you for your faithful. Your faithfulness. Your faithfulness. Yes. We praise. We praise. We praise. Praise, Praise. Praise. Praise, Praise, praise.
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We worship.
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Praise, Praise Praise you.
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We worship you.
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Yeah.
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We worship you.
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Yeah. We worship yeah thank you. Thank you.
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We worship you. Oh.
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Oh, my.
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Yeah.
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Yeah hey, yeah.
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We rejoice we rejoice in it.
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Oh, my yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah There was great joy in that city. There was great joy in the city. There was great joy in the city. There was great joy in the city.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha yeah, yeah, yeah O oh, glory oh, glory oh, glory. Yeah, yeah.
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Hey.
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Glory, glory glory glory glory glory glory glory glory, glory yeah, yeah, yeah hey, hey, hey Glory, glory.
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Yeah oh, my oh, my.
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Thou shalt decree a thing and it.
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Shall be established so we say it all comes to pass it all comes to pass it all comes together it all works as you designed Ha.
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What you decree shall be.
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Hallelujah.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Hey, hey. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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