Podcast Summary: It’s Already Yours, Part Two

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Host/Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Episode Date: February 9, 2022
Episode Focus: Living by the Spirit and Receiving What God Has Already Provided

Episode Overview

This episode continues the teaching “It’s Already Yours,” with Pastor Nancy Dufresne focusing on how believers receive and stand on God’s promises—especially healing—by refusing to be ruled by physical senses and instead living from the reality of who they are in Christ. The central message is that everything believers need (healing, prosperity, victory) has already been provided in their spirits through Christ. Accessing these requires spiritual, not carnal, living: walking by faith and the Word rather than by outward circumstances or bodily feelings.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Carnal vs. Spiritual Mindsets

• Romans 8:6-8 forms the foundational text.
• Being “carnally minded” means being led by senses (what you can see, feel, touch, etc.).
• Being “spiritually minded” means being led by the Word and the Spirit within.
• Notable quote:
  • “Anytime we believe any outward circumstance more than we believe the Bible, we just have to say it: I'm being carnal because I'm being ruled by the senses.” (00:23)

2. Confronting the Flesh to Follow God

• Nancy shares personal stories, including how her natural temperament was non-confrontational, but pastoring required her to go against her natural inclinations for the good of the church.
• Notable quote:
  • “I had to go against my natural flesh to pastor based on the Word… Every time I did, I can say honestly, there was never a time that something needed confronting that I didn’t confront.” (06:46)
• Lesson: You may have to go against your natural or fleshly tendencies to live out God’s Word—be it pastoring, receiving healing, or walking in prosperity.

3. God Responds to Faith, Not the Flesh

• God will not manifest the testimony of your flesh (“I’m just hurting, I’m getting worse”) but only His Word in your life.
• Carnal behavior (talking constantly about problems/symptoms) prevents God from working as He desires.
• Notable quote:
  • “God will not manifest your flesh, the testimony of your flesh. He will only manifest His Word in our lives.” (14:41)
• It displeases God when He’s unable to bless us due to our focus on the flesh, not because He’s angry, but because it robs Him of being the blesser He is.

4. Bridging the Gap—A Minister’s Story (Practical Healing)

• Story of a minister helping someone with terminal cancer shift focus away from weakness to declaring “I’m strong,” which eventually led to renewed strength, pain-free living, and healing.
• Principle: Meet people at the level of faith they can grab; teach them to confess the truth (“I’m strong”) rather than dwell on negative facts (“I’m weak”).
• Notable quote:
  • “He said, ‘I want to offer you this one thing today. All I want you to do is start beginning to say, I'm strong. Not trying to get it—I'm strong. I am. That strength is there, but weakness had robbed them...’” (19:48)
• Notable turnaround: As soon as the person consistently spoke the Word (“I’m strong”), strength returned first, then pain left, and eventually healing manifested.

5. Healing Flows Through The Spirit

• Divine healing and all of God’s provisions are spiritual—imparted to the spirit, not the body—and flow from spirit to body, not the other way:
  • “Healing power does not flow through the avenue of the body. Everything that God has made you to be flows through your spirit. Healing flows through the avenue of the spirit and changes the body.” (28:14)
• Medical science treats the body because it can’t access the spirit; but God works from the spirit out, bringing total and lasting change.
• God will address any blocks within your spirit—such as your love walk, your thinking, your words—because these affect how healing reaches your body.

6. Laying Hold First In The Spirit

• Emphasis: You must lay hold of healing, prosperity, victory, etc., with your spirit before you see it in your body or circumstances.
  • “When you lay hold of that with your spirit, it will become a nonissue to you about your body… In your spirit it has to dawn on you that you’re the healed.” (32:10)
• Pastor Nancy shares that, in her own life, the real “answer” came in her spirit before it showed up outwardly—it was anticlimactic when it manifested physically because she already had it settled inwardly.

7. We Are Not Obligated To The Flesh

• Romans 8:12 (Amplified): Believers are "debtors, but not to the flesh"—we are not obliged to respond to circumstances as the world does, nor let the flesh dictate our reactions.
  • “The new birth was imparted to your spirit. Salvation was imparted to your spirit. Healing was imparted to your spirit… But everything of God’s best is in your spirit.” (40:28)
• When her husband, Ed, passed away, Nancy told her congregation they were not obligated to respond like those who don’t know what they know.

8. Living On The Edge By Faith

• Personal reflection: Nancy shares how Ed Dufresne taught them as a family to live “on the edge of nothing”—trusting God beyond what could be seen or counted.
  • “He taught us how to get on the edge and see nothing out there and keep going. What’s that mean? You’re living by your spirit.” (45:25)
• Walking by faith may feel risky to the flesh, but true risk lies in carnal living; all victory and provision are already present in the believer’s spirit.

9. Accessing What’s ‘Already Yours’

• Analogy: A fully stocked pantry still requires people to get up and access the food.
• Spiritual parallel: Every need is already supplied in the believer’s spirit; faith is how we “get up and go get it.”
  • “Everything you need in this life, your spirit is fully stocked, but you’re going to have to access it. People say, ‘Well, if I’m healed, how come I’m sick?’ Because what you’re stocked with has to be accessed. And it’s faith that accesses it.” (54:23)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 00:23 | Nancy Dufresne | “Anytime we believe any outward circumstance more than we believe the Bible, we just have to say it: I'm being carnal because I'm being ruled by the senses.” | | 06:46 | Nancy Dufresne | “I had to go against my natural flesh to pastor based on the Word… Every time I did, I can say honestly, there was never a time that something needed confronting that I didn’t confront.” | | 14:41 | Nancy Dufresne | “God will not manifest your flesh, the testimony of your flesh. He will only manifest His Word in our lives.” | | 19:48 | Nancy Dufresne (quoting another minister) | “He said, ‘I want to offer you this one thing today. All I want you to do is start beginning to say, I'm strong. Not trying to get it—I'm strong. I am. That strength is there, but weakness had robbed them...’” | | 28:14 | Nancy Dufresne | “Healing power does not flow through the avenue of the body. Everything that God has made you to be flows through your spirit. Healing flows through the avenue of the spirit and changes the body.” | | 32:10 | Nancy Dufresne | “When you lay hold of that with your spirit, it will become a nonissue to you about your body… In your spirit it has to dawn on you that you’re the healed.” | | 40:28 | Nancy Dufresne | “The new birth was imparted to your spirit. Salvation was imparted to your spirit. Healing was imparted to your spirit… But everything of God’s best is in your spirit.” | | 45:25 | Nancy Dufresne | “He taught us how to get on the edge and see nothing out there and keep going. What’s that mean? You’re living by your spirit.” | | 54:23 | Nancy Dufresne | “Everything you need in this life, your spirit is fully stocked, but you’re going to have to access it… and it’s faith that accesses it.” |

Important Timestamps

• 00:23 — Defining carnal vs. spiritual living; Romans 8
• 06:46 — Pastoring by the Spirit, not the flesh; personal anecdotes
• 14:41 — Why God cannot respond to carnal confession; faith is necessary
• 19:48 — Healing story: shifting confession from weakness to strength
• 28:14 — How healing flows: source is the spirit, not the body
• 32:10 — Receiving revelation in your spirit precedes manifestation
• 40:28 — Not debtors to the flesh; everything is in your spirit
• 45:25 — Living on the edge by faith, family lesson from Ed Dufresne
• 54:23 — Pantry analogy: faith as the means of accessing what’s yours

Conclusion

Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s message in this episode is intensely practical and faith-filled. She urges believers to stop allowing bodily senses and circumstances to dictate their realities, emphasizing that God’s provision—including healing—is already present within their spirits. The episode is rich with personal testimony, practical illustrations, and faith-building encouragement to access all that’s “already yours” through faith and by living from the inside out.

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