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Nancy Dufresne
Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. How many of you know when Jesus is here? Something else has to be here. What else has to be here? Faith. It's in me. It's in you. We join our faith to the one who is in our midst, the one who is in us, the one who empowered us. Amen. Hallelujah. So we receive. We receive. We receive. Hallelujah. You know when. When we rejoice and celebrate and join into a flow of praising God, how many of you know he wants to manifest? We don't. He just doesn't want us to walk out of the service saying, boy, I felt that he wants us to walk out with needs met. Needs met. I said, needs met. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. So we're okay with just feeling something, but we.
Reba
We.
Nancy Dufresne
We assign that power that we sense in us and in the room to our need. Amen. So what is your need right now? What is your need? It could be financial. It could be something with your ministry. It could be personal. It could be family. It could be physical. But just assign that power that's present in the room to your need. Join your faith to that. Father, we thank you. We take that power with your own mouth. Say it out of your own mouth what it is that you're assigning the power of God to. What need? Cause I walk out with needs met. Amen. Hallelujah. We take that power for every arena. Spiritually, mentally, physically, materially. Every single need of this room met by power. We believe in the power of God. We believe in the power of God. Hallelujah. So we see that need. Power flowing to it. Power flowing to it. Power flowing to it. Hallelujah. I remember years ago, there was a person who had come to the church. They came as a guest of someone else, and they were hoping for that situation to turn into a marriage. And it didn't turn into a marriage. So they became disillusioned by that relationship, and they left the church. And so I called them because right before they left the church, they were diagnosed with cancer. And they were only in their mid-30s, had young children. And I called him and I said, honey, I said, I know that you came to this church because you were involved in this relationship, and it didn't pan out the way you thought. But I said, now you're here for a different reason. And the reason is your life needs this word. Your life doesn't just need a marriage. It needs what this ministry has, which is the word. So I'm encouraging you, although you're disappointed over that broken relationship, don't let it pull you away from the place where your need can be met. Because I said you're dealing with a life and death situation and this goes beyond a relationship with someone. And they basically told me in so many words, don't call me back. So I didn't. And about a year and a half later they came in to the church and by this time they were in a wheelchair. That condition had spread to every organ of their body. They were emaciated. We had at that time a part time Bible school. So they came and they were part of that, which was, which was good. But Brother Hagin made this statement to pastors and he said, to help people, many times you got to find out the cause, where is the open door. And so he said, as a pastor, because you have oversight over the sheep, God is obligated to show you some things about the sheep or it wouldn't be fair to cause you to, that you'd be responsible to give an account for the sheep if he's not going to share with you how to help the sheep. And dad Hagin made this statement, if you'll pray long enough in the spirit, God will show you the cause. So I decided, we had daily prayer at that time. And I decided that particular day I said, father, I'm going to lift her up before you and I ask you, I said, I sense in my spirit she's going to die. But I said, if that can be changed, I want to be part of that change. And I said, if we can get this changed, I said, I want to spend some time just praying for her. And I'd been praying maybe 20 minutes in other tongues just for her. Just seeing, you know when you're praying for someone, see you lifting them up before the throne. And about 20 minutes of just praying in the spirit. And then all of a sudden I had a vision. And in the vision I saw her sitting in a chair, one of our chairs, just like this. And there were two pipes, maybe an inch in circumference coming out of the ground behind the chair. And it had an elbow bend in that pipe and it connected right to the base of the back of the chair. And I knew when I saw this that that represented power was flowing to right where she was at. But then I saw her in this vision take each finger, the index finger of each hand, lean forward, reach behind her and put each finger in that, plugging it up, clogging it up to where the power was flowing. But she was hindering. They're receiving it. Listen to this. This is why I'm saying this to you. It's never a lack of power. It's a lack of cooperation with the power. She was hindering power even though she was a baby Christian. She didn't know the things power was still flowing to her. Powers flowing in the room. I said that to say this many times. People are trying to get God's side of power flowing. That's not the need. Power is already ours. He's already filled us with power, pours out of his spirit upon us. We are. It's not a power issue, it's a cooperation issue. So I've come tonight not to get God to send power. And there's always more of the Holy Ghost we can receive. Don't misunderstand me. Because he is so multifaceted. And there's always more fullness to receive of Him. But it's not about getting him to do his. It's about us doing ours, cooperating with the power. And so that's what we're talking about tonight. Don't just say, I felt something apply. Assign the power that is present to your need because you can have power and it not even reach the need because it's waiting for our faith to assign it. And people are saying, well, God knows I have that need. Yes, he said. Jesus said, you Father knows what you have need of. Listen to this even before you ask. Meaning this. Just because he knows doesn't dismiss us from the asking. We still must release our faith to give him permission to fulfill the need he knows we have. Amen. So many times the mindset of people is trying to work on God's God getting him to sin, power, getting him to fix something, getting him to do it. And it's not a lack of power. It's us cooperating. I've come to cooperate this week. What about you? I'm not here trying to talk God into something. I'm here to receive of what he's already blessed me with and what already belongs to me is my inheritance in Christ. Amen. Words, words, Words. Amen. Words. Amen. Hallelujah. Thank God. Thank God for the power of God that is activated by our words. Hallelujah. So let's say the power of God's working and then line it out. What is it working on? What is it working on? What is it working on?
Reba
Amen.
Nancy Dufresne
Know this. Power always meets faith. Always. There's no such thing as faith being released and power not cooperating with that, Every time I release my faith from my need, power begins moving regarding that need. Just like when Jesus spoke to that tree. Power began. It didn't show up till the next day, but power began the moment. Faith words. Faith words. Amen. So even though you might not see an immediate, power always begins. Power has to have a beginning time, a beginning place. Regarding your need. It's right now when you release your faith. Right now. When you release your faith. Power's flowing right now. Power's flowing in my body right now. Power's flowing in my finances right now. Power's flowing in my family. Power's flowing regarding that need. Powers flowing regarding my children. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And every day you get up and say, the power's still flowing, the power's still moving. The power's still working. Amen. Hallelujah. Let's sing something again.
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I receive his power. Everybody just say, I receive. I receive his power. With your hands up. I receive. I receive his power. I receive his power.
Nancy Dufresne
This is.
Worship Leader
This is your power. Jesus is here. Can we just kind of do it as a worship song? Maybe not so big. Jesus is the alto. Jesus is here.
Nancy Dufresne
Throw some parts.
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Jesus is here. Jesus. Jesus. Jesus is here. I receive. I receive his power. This is your hour. Jesus is here. Jesus. Jesus is here. Jesus is here. Jesus is here. I receive his power. This is your hour. Jesus is here. One more time, I want you to put up your hands. Everybody sing this out. Jesus. Jesus is Jes. Jesus is here. Jesus is here. I receive his power. I receive his power. I receive his power. This is your hour. Jesus is here.
Nancy Dufresne
Now because we have joined our faith to his power, our attention has to go off the need and onto the power. That's key and it's critical. Where your tension goes is what's going to get movement. If your attention goes back to your need, the need picks up movement. So it is the skill of faith to release words of faith and believe that that power a tangible substance. It is a substance in the spirit realm whether you feel it or not. Now we direct our attention and we refuse to let our attention go back to the knees. But now we're talking about the power that's dealing with that need. Amen. Power is dealing with that need. Now, whatever you touch is what will take possession of you in your thought life, in your attention. You think you become need minded and stay need minded, which is worry. That's what will move. But we turn our attention to what met our Faith. And that's the power we're talking about it. Our faith stands not in the wisdom of men, not what we can figure out, calculate, or measure, but our faith stands in the power of God. I believe in the power of God. It's flowing right now. It's flowing right now in my need. It's flowing right now. My need just got annihilated by that power. My need just got met by that power. Amen. Because this is resurrection power. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
I sensed earlier in the service that healing, anointing come in. And what. What came to me was if you're in pain, you don't have to wait for the end of the week to deal with that. The devil would love to cause you to miss and be distracted by pain so that you don't receive all that each service holds for you. So if you're in pain right now, raise your hand. You're in pain right now in your body. Raise your hand real high. Real high. Don't just raise it down here because I can't see that. Raise it real high. If you can, raise that hand real high. Only those with your hand raised. Only those with your hand raised, come down here real quick. Real quick. Because we want you receiving all God has for you without distraction.
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Jesus is here. Jesus is here. Jesus is here. This is your hour. Jesus is here.
Nancy Dufresne
Hallelujah. Go ahead and let's sing it again, Brother David. Just go ahead and sing that.
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Jesus. Everybody in the congregation, just say he Jesus. Name.
Nancy Dufresne
Go in jesus name. Every bit of it.
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Go.
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In Jesus name. Has reached your back. Every bit of that pain. Where's the pain, love? Where's the pain in your hip?
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Jesus is here.
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Every bit of that pain.
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Go in Jesus name.
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In Jesus name. Hey, Pastor Jack. Where's the pain? Now you're got it. Father, we thank you for wholeness from the top of your head. Hallelujah. Where you want stomach? Every bit of that Go in Jesus name.
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Jesus receive. Where, Love?
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Where's the pain? Where's your pain? What about you? Where's the pain, love? Father, we thank you. Holy Jesus name. Holy Jesus name.
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Power.
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Jesus. The pain, love J. Yeah. Every bit of that pain. Go in Jesus name.
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Jesus is.
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Where's the pain, love? All over. Yeah. And all the pain. Oh, overhaul. In Jesus name. Jesus is here. Carissa, you just keep making the correct actions God's shown you. Just keep making those. Just keep making those. And power. Power does its work. Where's the pain? Every bit of that Go in Jesus name. In Jesus name. Where's the pain? Yeah, Every bit of that pain goes in Jesus name. Every bit of it goes. What about you, love? Where's the pain? In your knees? Yeah, you got a brace on. Every bit of that go in Jesus name. Behold. In Jesus name. Where's the pain, love? Going down your arm, yeah. Every bit of. There it goes. Every bit of that leave in Jesus name. Where's the pain, sir? Where's the pain? You've been dealing with your back? Yeah. Every bit of that go in Jesus name. Be whole. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. What about you, love? What's hurting your legs? Every bit of that pain go in Jesus name. In Jesus name. What about you, love? Where's the pain? A frozen shoulder. Every bit of that go in Jesus. What about you, love? Your stomach and neck. Hallelujah. Every bit.
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Oh.
Nancy Dufresne
Every bit of that go in Jesus name. What about you, sir? Congestion? Yeah. Every bit of that. Be open, be loose, be free. Breathe normal. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. What about you, love? Your lower back. If you would touch me. Every bit of that pain go. Oh, there goes, love. In Jesus name. What about you, baby doll? You what, you're back? Yeah. Every bit of that go in Jesus name. Every bit of that pain go. What about you, love? Yeah, Father, we thank you for wholeness. Every bit of that pain go. Every bit of that limitation, God. What about you, miss? Right here. Every bit of it go in Jesus name. What about it, miss? Nerve pain. Yeah, Every bit of that go in Jesus name. What about you, love? Your spine?
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Yeah.
Nancy Dufresne
Every bit of that go in Jesus name. In Jesus name. What about it, love? Where's the pain? Your shoulders? Every bit of that go in Jesus name. What about it, love? Where's the pain in your leg? Every bit of that go. There it goes, there it goes. Where's the pain, love? Your back? Yeah. Every bit of that pain go in Jesus name. Thank you, Father for those angels working, straightening that out, making that right. In Jesus name. What about you, love? Where's the pain? Your back. Every bit of that pain go in Jesus name. Jesus name. Where's the pain? Sir, your hands in both hands.
Reba
Hands.
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Grab that hand. Every bit of that pain go in Jesus name. We thank you that the power of God's working. In Jesus name. What about you, love? Where's the pain? Your head and ears. Every bit of that go in Jesus name. Every bit of it go in Jesus name. Thank you, Father. Yeah. Every bit of that go in Jesus name. Jesus. Where's the pain, love? Yeah, we speak every Every organ in place. Behold, in Jesus name. Yes.
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Jesus.
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What about you, love? Where's the pain? Your thumb? Every bit of that pain goes in Jesus name. Behold, in Jesus name. What about you, love? Every bit of that pain go in Jesus name. In Jesus name. What about you, love? Yeah. Every bit that pain goes. What about it, Melody? Every bit of that pain go in Jesus name.
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Father, we thank you that you anoint.
Nancy Dufresne
Them going into these cloths and when they're laid upon the bodies of those in Jesus, it'll drive out pain symptoms, sickness and disease and they shall be whole. In Jesus name. Come here, Pastor Jan. Come here. Father, we thank you for everything that reattached. As it ought to be. As it ought to be. In Jesus name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Reba
A couple of years ago, I was having so many problems with my back. And the enemy tried to convince me, you're just going to be just like your mother. And my mother had 11 back surgeries and was just totally incapacitated because of all that was done to her. And I'd never had a back surgery. They've tried, but the enemy came in and said, you're going to be just like her. It's just going to. And one day I was praying a couple of years ago, and the Lord spoke to me and said, would you like to see the spirit of pain? And I didn't know if I wanted to or not, but I said, well, yes, sir. And I saw it. It was ominous looking, but it looked a lot like a porcupine. But coming out of the quills, it was like sharp daggers. And the Lord spoke and said, it's just such a lazy spirit. I said, what do you mean? He said, all he has to do is lay here and just kind of move around just a little bit. And those. Those spears go into your body, those quills go into your body. And the Lord spoke to me and said, you know what I'm gonna do, though? And I said, yes, sir, I wanna know that. And out of heaven came his hand, and there were these beautiful jeweled tweezers. And he said, and on it was written the word of God. And he said, I'm gonna de quill that spirit of pain by my word, and you're gonna cooperate with me. And every night I'd lay down and I would. Would visualize. I'd say, lord, thank you that by the word of God. And I would quote whatever scripture was on my heart. And I would see him de quilling that thing to my daughter. Can testify I'm carrying my Own luggage. Running around like a crazy woman. But you know what? God has de quilled that thing in my life. And I want you to start seeing that, if that bears witness with you, sweetheart, to start seeing. Seeing that image at night. By the word of the Lord.
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah.
Reba
That thing, the power is being taken out of that in the ne. And you know what? When it. When it was over, it reminded me of like a slug. That was all that was left was the silly old slug.
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah.
Reba
How many you believe that God is deing pain tonight in Jesus name?
Nancy Dufresne
Sometime back, I had a dream. And in this dream, there was some physical things I was dealing with. And in that dream, I saw two demons that were. I don't know how to say it. Have you ever seen. I've only seen glimpses of it. Not because I've watched any of it, but in horror movies. And they'll show a carnival. And it's dark. It's not. It's a distorted, darkened look at a carnival. And these demon heads, you know how they're like, just spinning like this? And they were mocking the pain. Their enjoyment is your suffering. And I saw that anytime we put up with something, they enjoy that. And it's up to us to rob them of their enjoyment. You'll not sit and laugh at me in pain. When someone is bent over or can't move as they are, they mock that. He showed that to me, and it made me so angry to think that your suffering is their pleasure. I won't give the devil pleasure. I rob him of all enjoyment. I am not his carnival. Amen. We have to be aware that there is another world, very real. And it matters what we show that world. I said it matters what we're showing that world. Hallelujah. Power's working in you. Power's working in me. Say it. Power is working in me. Every day. Every day. Every day. Every day, Every day. Just like God said to me back in 2011, all I want you doing is practicing peace. And I made a point. Practicing peace meant any thought that did not arrive me at peace and joy, I cast it down. That's really just walking in the spirit. Can I tell you that that's all it is, is it's walking in the spirit. And after two years, and when my husband went home to be with the Lord, I was already established in the flow of peace. But not only do we need to practice peace, practice joy, we practice power. We practice every day cooperating with power. We talk about the powers working in me, working in my children, working in my Home working in my body. I don't have to have a great catastrophic need to call on power. Power will just hold things in place. Things that are in place. It'll hold it in place. Amen. Talk about the power every day. Practice power every day. Practice assigning that power every day. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Well, you can be seated. I won't preach the whole sermon tonight. We'll see how far I get. But this is in keeping with something that was on my heart for these services. I don't. Like I said, I don't know how far I'll get. Now I'm going to ask the musicians not to go too far just because. Just because I don't know where we're going. So y' all stay close so we can go. I. First of all, before I go any further, I want to introduce to you World Harvest church pastor Grant DeFrain.
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Yeah. Yeah.
Nancy Dufresne
So the. The first Sunday of January, I guess it was, he became the pastor. And so Morgan and Stephen are going to help more on the road and helping defresh ministries and helping with other arms of defresne ministries. And so we're excited about what God has. You're going to see Morgan and Stephen in the morning services of Jesus the healer crusades. That's what God has said. But you know where we're at with Jesus the healer crusades. The seagulls helped us take the new thing that God was doing for us. And don't you. Weren't you so fed. That's not the end of seeing the seagulls. You're going to see the seagulls some more. But I just appreciate that they took that and they moved with us in that until it was time for my children to move in that. And so thank you. Seagulls, because they're family to us. They're family to us. And because the seagulls brought such a rich supply to that they made the place very easy for my children to step into. So hallelujah. I love the plan of God. Don't you love the plan of God? You can be seated. I want us to be reminded of something, and that is don't let the things that God has shown past generations slipped from us because we wore a good warfare with the prophecies that have gone before us. And notice those prophecies aren't just personal prophecies, but they're things God has said to the body. There are things God has said in the earth, and those words are still in the earth. And we need to not let go of those, would you bring me back in the house? I don't know where. I'm just hearing me everywhere. And so when we look at Brother Hagin's book called I Believe in Visions, that's a reread regularly, don't put that and say I've read it once. There is so much in that book. Those visions happened to Brother Hagin, but they also happened for us, to him, but for us. And you know this, that as you grow and mature and you reread a book that you've read before, you see something different based on where you're standing in maturity, your maturity will take it in at a different level. It's not different words that are there, but you see it different, you hear it different, you apply it different. And so you. Some of these things that are landmarks for the body of Christ, these revelations, these truths, we have to go back and reread and make them part of our ongoing diet. And Brother Hagin's book called I Believe in Visions is one of those. I want to remind us one of my favorite chapters is the hospital visitor. Many of you know that visitation well, but the Holy Ghost put his finger on something of that for me for at least tonight. And we'll see where it goes from there. But you'll recall that dad Hagin had walked out of a service and he slipped and fell and injured his arm. And so they did the proper medical procedure on him to deal with that. And then they kept him just a day or two in the hospital for observation purpose purposes. And he heard footsteps walking down the corridor of the hospital floor. And he thought a nurse was coming in because it just sounded as real as that to him. And the door was partially ajar. And when he looked up expecting to see a nurse come in, Jesus walked in, pulled up a chair and sat down and talked with him for an hour and a half, face to face. An open vision. There are three types of visions that Jesus taught Brother Hagin about. A spiritual vision is when you see into his realm, but an open vision is when he comes into our realm and we see him in our realm. That's the highest type of vision. And many, there's not many having those all the time. So if somebody thinks they are, they're not. They might be having something, but not that. But in that open vision, Jesus walked in, got a chair, pulled it up next to the bedside of Brother Hagin, and talked to him for an hour and a half. And in the course of that, he told him why this had happened to him. And I'm not going to so much capitalize or focus on that. But. But there are some points I want to focus on. I'm led, prompted by the spirit to do that. In the course. I'm not going to talk about the whole vision, but in the course of that vision, Jesus said these words to dad Hagin. It's my will. Now, see, that ought to make our attention stand up. It's my will that none of my children ever be sick. It's my will that none of my children ever be operated on. It's my will that none of my children ever have accidents. So what is he saying that he's not a part of. He's not a part of making someone sick. He's not a part of putting them in such a condition they need a surgery or causing an accident to get their attention. It's his will that we not have any of that. Now, with that being said, you have to. I'm not telling you not to have an operation. I'm not telling you that because you have to follow him based on where you're at today, period. So I don't want people hearing me say that. And they go, that's it, will of God. I don't have a surgery. Well, generally, yes, but specifically where you're at today, you're going to have to know how he's leading you today, you know, because sometimes we have let things go too far. There was a person that years ago was a rhema student, and they were in their 20s, and when they woke up one morning, they had. I don't know if that had any previous physical conditions, but when the wife of this man woke up one morning, she rolled over and he was still in bed and he was supposed to be out playing golf, and she rolled over and he was dead in the bed in his mid-20s. So they called Brother Hagin and they wanted him to come and minister and raise him from the dead. And this is what Brother Hagin said. He said, they. They said, would you come and take authority over death? This is what he said. By the spirit, authority should have been taken earlier. Did you see that? What's that mean? The Holy Spirit's going to lead us based on where we're at today, sometimes we let things go further than we should have. Is there help? Yes, there's help, but it might not always look like his highest flow. But there's still help. There's still help. So that's why I say that, because people that are not well taught will hear me read that. Portion and say, that's it. Because it's not the will of God. I have a surgery, I'm not having it. You have to go by how he's leading you today. You say, well, if it's his will that I don't have a surgery, is it always his will? In the highest. In the highest flow of his will now. So we need to learn that there are three things. It's his will we never have. Never be sick, never be operated on, never have an accident. That's it. Period. If we don't recognize that, we won't expect that for our lives. I'm expecting to live that. And if I'm not, I'm going to change something so I can enjoy that. Amen. Right? And we're all here for change. Whatever we need to change something in our thinking, something in our speaking, something in our believing, something in our obedience, we're here to hear any change. And the thing is, I don't even have to speak what the change is, but you can be in the atmosphere of the word and hear the change. Because in the atmosphere of the word, the Holy Spirit speaks. And not just through me, but to your spirit. Amen. So put that in your vocabulary. It's the will of God for me that I never be sick, that I never be operated on, and I never have an accident. And that goes for me and my family. I expect that because you don't receive what you don't expect. Amen. So I'm adjusting some things about me to get in that highest flow of his will. And just because we might not have been in that highest flow, we're not going to leave it unoccupied. We're going to jump ourselves into that flow, make changes, and say, that's the flow he authored for me and that that's the flow I'm going to expect of my life. And I'm going to expect it of my faith. It's not expecting it of God. I'm expecting that of my faith. My faith is going to take its place in that flow. Amen. So what are the three things that's his will? Number one, never be sick. Number two, never be operated on. Number three, never have an accident. Well, others have accidents. Well, we expect his will. We don't expect what happened to others to show up in our lives. And I so appreciate that. Sister Reba caught that strategy the devil was trying to work because it worked on your mother, gonna try to work it on me. I don't expect that. Because what you expect, he'll be able to work, the devil will be able to work, and God will be able to. To work whatever flow you expect. Amen. I love when she was talking about when God showed her that vision of the. Of the quills being removed, and she said she would imagine that. That's what you do. That's what you do. Second Corinthians, chapter 10, verse 5. Casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. Those are the only imaginations you cast down, the ones that are against the knowledge of God. But you exalt every imagination that imagines him and his power and what he said and what he's working and what he's doing in your life. You imagine that. Why? Because your expectation will follow your imagination. You'll start expecting it if you imagine it. Amen. So imagination is important. I said imagination is important because it's what your mind is, what your mind and your spirit is to meditate on until the manifestation shows up. Because you're going to be thinking about something until your manifestation shows up. So you have to employ your imagination. Amen. And that's what God is impressing upon me, that these three things, we not just let them drop by the wayside. This was not just Jesus giving filler to Brother Hagin in that hospital room. He left his realm to come to our realm, to say these words so that we would know what to hold to. And he said, it is my will that none, none, none of my children ever be sick. I don't want to live outside his will. If we'd been sick, we'd been outside his will. I've been there, but I'm not going back there. And I'm getting out of there. That's not my room. I'm not the sick room. Yeah. So he said, it's my will that none of my children. Spiritual baby, spiritually mature, congregation member, leading preacher. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. None, none, none. None of my children ever be sick, be operated on, or have accidents. Don't ever say things like, well, I'm accident prone. Not in his will, you're not. Not in Christ you're not. Well, I'm just clumsy. I follow the time. Not in him, you don't. You just flip into these flippant statements just to get a rise out of people or get a joke, and the joke, joke's on you. So it's my will that none of my children ever be sick, be operated on, or have accidents. Then he follows it up with this. But Very few ever walk in my best. This is what Jesus said, very few ever walk in my best. And then he says, because what's he now? Now he's going to give us the cause why very few ever walk in his best. Then he tells us three things are the causes. He said, number one, most don't know what belongs to them. What's he talking about? In our inheritance, in Christ. In our inheritance in Christ, most don't know what belongs to them. The second thing he said, even if they do know what belongs to them, they don't have enough faith to receive.
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Nancy Dufresne
Or strength of faith. Couldn't we even say that there's a measure of faith? Now? God said to me years ago, I was in my early 20s and the doctors wanted to put me on some kind of medication and I didn't want to go on it. And Ed said something to me. He said, honey, he said, it's not the withholding of medicine that pleases God. He said, it's the exercise of faith that pleases God. He said, you can be on medicine, exercise your faith and God will be pleased. He said, or you can withhold medicine and not use your faith and God not be pleased. It's not the withholding of medicine. It's not about medicine. It's faith that pleases me. So the Spirit of God said to me, he said, go on the meadow medicine. And he said, the whole time you're on it, feed your faith. And he said, and when your faith reaches a point to where you don't need the medicine, he said, I'll tell you when to come off. He's your counselor, he's your medical advisor. And so I did it. But I fed my faith. I kept feeding on healing scriptures, just speaking them. And within at the three month point, he said, okay, you can come off the medication now. He said, now you'll have a little bit of pushback. But he said, ignore it, meaning those symptoms will try to resurface. He said, just ignore it. Just stay in faith. And I tell you, they were slight to faith. It was so easy to ignore them because faith had been strengthened. So this is what Jesus is talking about. Even if they do know what belongs to them, they don't have enough faith to receive it. There's not enough hold in them. Every test you will ever face is accompanied with a test on the mind. It's either won or lost. Nothing feelings in the body or in the finances. It's one or lost in your thinking, how you think the devil bombards the mind. With fear, with replays of the past. Now, God said something to me years ago. He said, the greatest enemy to your prosperity is your past. Because if you're raised in lack that tries to repeat itself how you were raised, you know, I remember this is a little thing, but this is the way we were raised. We didn't have showers. We had bathtubs growing up. Anybody else not have showers? You just had. You had bathtubs. Remember? Now that's flipped. Primarily. Primarily you can people. But in the bathtub growing up, my mother put this much water, like an inch, an inch, an inch, an inch. And brother, you just lay down and you just kind of do a little bit of something. I thought that's how everyone did it. Seriously. Because Mother said, that's all you need. You don't waste it. That's all you need. Well, the walls were that side to hold that much in, because kids are splashers, you know, that's why the walls were tall. It's not because you were to use that much. I'll never forget, I walked in after I married Ed and he was in a Jacuzzi and filled it all the way top. And I walked in, I go, Oh, my God, you're wasting so much water. You don't need that. The greatest enemy to a full tub was a low tub. Because that's the way I was raised. And if you don't realize it, how that mindset comes into every. The past starts defining, and that's why we need to renew our minds. So we get new God definitions, heaven definitions. But this is also what imagination does. It sees the tub full, right? But also when there's pain over a course of time, you start expecting it because that's what your past had. And you can expect. You can get up in the morning and go to feel because that's what the past had in it. We have to not let the past define our thinking today. So good. Amen. I was in a meeting. I heard Pastor Noel saying to someone, I don't remember the condition. I don't remember if it was back pain or what. And he said to her, quit expecting to feel pain. If you expect to feel it, that's where your tension is, and that's what will be fulfilled. We need to expect none, none sick, none operated on, none having accidents. That's our flow. Anything less is lower. Now, God will meet us and help us in that lower flow, but that's not the flow he authored for us. So let's put a demand on our faith to come up to his flow. His flow. What he calls his best. Not what we're okay with, but receive his best. I'm here to not go with a lower flow. I'm here to go with the highest flow. The highest flow. And what's that look like? No sickness, no surgeries, no accidents. Amen. We have to expect that of our life. Expect that. And if we have less than that, we say, I'm not okay with that. I'm gonna get my faith on that. And I'm running that back out. We have to practice the higher flow. We won't just float to the highest flow. We have to on purpose, us occupy the highest flow. His best. So again he said, but very few ever walk in my best. When he says walk, he's talking about a manner of life. It's an everyday walk. It's an everyday, it's every day. Very few ever walk in my best. Number one is why? Because most don't know what belongs to them. Number two, even if they do know what belongs to them, they don't have faith enough to receive it. What's that mean? Their attention is occupied with something else. Because something else is bigger to them than his best. We've got to get his best. The biggest thing in our thinking. Get his best as the biggest thing in our thinking instead of what we feel and our need being the biggest thing in our thinking. What's that mean? The biggest thing in your thinking is where your tension is living. I cannot impress upon you enough. Faith is simply where your attention goes. Where's your tension? That's where your faith is. What is your attention on? That's where your faith is living right there. So the third thing that Jesus said to dad Hagin is he said, the third reason why very few ever walk in his best is he said, because of disobedience. And he said to brother Hagin, that's why you're in this situation. Because in your disobedience you opened the door to the devil to cause this accident. Brother Hagin wasn't sick. He had an accident. And that accident caused him to have to have something addressed in his body. But notice this obedience in the plan of God and in the will of God takes skill. The skill of hearing. You have to hear the plan said, you have to hear the plan. We can't just because, you know, he told. I don't remember if it was recorded in this book. I believe in visions or not. But on one occasion Jesus said to Brother Hagin, many of my ministers live and die and never get into the first phase of the ministry that I had for them. Notice this. Many of my ministers, they're in the ministry. You would have thought that that's a good way into the plan of God. I'm in the ministry. But there are layers, so to speak, of his plan. And if we're not careful, we can have obedience in one season and then try to operate the same in a previous season as in the current season and get out of the will of God doing the exact same thing we did in the season where we were obedient. And now we're in another season and we're not obedient. We're doing the same thing, but we're not obedient anymore. Why? Because every phase or every season calls for its own skill, hearing and obedience. Now, when he told Brother Hagin, he said you were disobedient in the sense he said, you announced two years ago, I'm a teacher and a prophet. And he said, and you again made that statement in another location. He stated it twice somewhere. He said, you said, I'm a teacher and I'm a prophet. Well, that just sounds like the plan to me. Not far off. But in the plan of God, he wasn't a teacher and prophet. He was a prophet and a teacher.
Worship Leader
That's right.
Nancy Dufresne
That's right. Now, let me ask you this. In a marriage, does it cause problems if you get the order of things reversed? Now, let me say it this way. Let me help. Let me help. Let's do a little bit of marriage counseling here. When you marry, you leave mom and Daddy. That means you don't call mom and tell her what he did. You don't do it. You don't do it. And I'm not going to be a listening ear for somebody. Why they were your mother, but in this season, their voice changed. It doesn't hold the same order. Your husband's. Your wife's voice is of a higher order than any family member. No matter how long your family lived with you and loved you and how many bills they paid of yours, the order of the voice changes. And if you don't recognize that marriages have been destroyed because they put the voice of the family above the voice of the spouse, they've torn up their marriages. So does the order matter? Order matters. Now, whenever I was pastoring, I had no idea I would pastor for 25 years. I thought, five, six years tops. That's all God needs me for in that role. But it was 25 years. It took me a long time to get it right. So I Said to God, when I knew that there would come a day when I wasn't pastor, I knew that would come. And I said to God, I so love pastoring. I love being with the people on a regular basis so I can see the word work, so I can see the fruit of the word being worked in their life. It's rewarding when you travel, you go and you deposit the word and you leave. And you don't get to stay around to see the process of the word working unless you just go back and visit regularly like we all fof people do. We do that? Yeah, we like that. So we just enjoy the fruit of someone else's congregation, you know? And so I said to God, I so love pastoring. Could I not do like Dr. Sumrall in the sense Dr. Sumrall made this statement. He said, I'm an apostle, and God permits me to pastor. He permitted him, meaning Dr. Sumrall would travel all during the week, and then no matter where he was, he'd fly home for Sunday, and he'd be in his pulpit Sunday. And then his family and different staff help helped him with pastoring responsibilities through the week. But he was always back home on Sunday. I said, can I do that? Would you permit me to do that? In the season of being pastor, that was my highest place to be, was in the local church. But when that changed, I preached. When I turned the church over to Morgan Back in 2016, I preached the next midweek service. And, brother, there was no anointing. It had left, and Gwent lived somewhere else. And I go, okay, that could just be a fluke. Maybe I'm just having a bad night. But then I was scheduled to preach next Sunday, and there was no anointing. I said, I get it. You're not gonna let me do what you let Dr. Sumrall do. I get it. Now, what is that? What if I would have tried to hold to the order of the previous season that God commanded of me, but now I'm to be traveling and God commands another order. If I don't make that shift, I'm disobedient. And now these three things that it's not the will of God for me to have can operate. Obeying God is not simply living clean for God or living dirty for the devil. There is a lot more to it. It's hearing. And every season, you have to relearn what that season calls for, and you have to gain skill for that phase of your ministry and that phase of your life, that season of your life. So what's that mean? The hearing never stops. The learning never stops. The practicing never stops. Why? So we can stay in obedience. So we can enjoy his best for us, which is no sickness, no operations, and no accidents. Now, First Corinthians 14. He that speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself. Edifies himself. If we're edified, then we are edifiers. If we're not edified, we not edifying others. That's why people tear up homes and marriages. And every setting should get better because you arrived. Every situation should grow more peaceful and everything because you stepped into it. If it became more troublesome because of you, you're not edified. Because an edified person doesn't tear up stuff, they make it peaceful. They don't cause conflict, they don't cause strife. They don't get demanding. They're not edified. That's why they're not edifying that situation. But he that speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself. I have a book called On Prayer, Supernatural Prayer Life. Supernatural Prayer Life. And I don't. I don't remember how many. I think there's like eight or nine dictionary definitions of the word edify. One of them, one definition of the word edify is organizes. He that speaks in an unknown tongue organizes himself. What is it that got Brother Hagin in trouble with that accident? Things got out of order. He was putting more emphasis on the teaching office, which is a lower office than the prophet's office, and it got out of order. If you speak an unknown tongue, you'll see where things are order. Because you'll have the help of the Holy Ghost to organize yourself in this season, in the plan of God. Because every season calls for its own order. You understand that every season calls for its own order. And you need the help of the Holy Ghost to organize to know the order of that season. And by speaking out in other tongues, you're going to going to see the order of the spirit that you're to walk out now. He can't order what you don't obey. You can know something is to be done, but if you don't do it, that's not the order. He can't implement order in our lives without us obeying what we're hearing him tell us. Amen. Praise the Lord. So the three things are God's will. What's God's best? Say it with me. Number one, never be sick. Number two, never have to be operated on. Number three, never have an accident. Ingrain that in you. Ingrain that. Because if it ever starts Going that way. I'm not leaving his best. No, I'm not going that way. You have to put your faith on that, your expectation. What are the three things that the primary cause that Jesus listed that causes us not to enjoy God's best is what? Number one, not knowing what belongs to us. Number two, not having faith enough to receive it. Even if we do know what belongs to us. Number three, what? Disobedience. That's the one that catches you. Because there's disobedience in so many things that the different strategies the devil brings, different devices. Because none of us wake up and say, you know what? I'm going to be disobedient to God today. It's my goal. By breakfast, I want to have three disobediences in place.
Worship Leader
Place.
Nancy Dufresne
None of us purposefully ever do that. We get duped. We get deceived. We let things slip. We don't hold fast. We let someone else's words take the place of what God said to us. We let pressure that somebody else puts on us to override what we know in our spirit. All these we don't purposefully set out to disobey. We drift into it. We drift. Yeah, we drift into it. Well, praise the Lord. So, I don't know. I think we'll leave it there. We'll see where we come back. But we've had a lot tonight. We've had a lot of good things with the Holy Ghost tonight. But those three things, we have to become skillful. Become skillful. Let's go home tonight, back to our hotel rooms or whatever, and say, wait, what am I partaking of? That's not the flow of his best. If I don't stop it, no one will. If I don't, no one else will. My pastor won't stop it for me. They might want to, but they can't. Because the one who opened the door is the one who has to close it. I said, the one who opened the door is the one who has to close it. Amen. Let's do it again. Three of God's best. The flow of God's best. What three things? Never be sick. Never. Number two, no operations. Number three, no accidents. What keeps us from those things? Number one, not knowing what belongs to us. Number two, not having enough faith. Even if we do know what belongs, knowing is not the partaking. You have to understand that. Number three. Disobedience. Amen. I expect God's best today. I'm not waiting for it for tomorrow, not waiting for it for next week. Today. Today, right now. Faith is now. Right now, I'm in God's best. And everything that's not God's best has to leave. Everything that's not God's best has to leave. Practice God's best every day. Practice God's best. Now, when Jesus walks into a room and says this to a man, don't you think it's important to him? Don't you think it's because he wants us to have the best? We won't float there. We go there by faith, by faith, and you say, well, I'm trying to get there. That's the problem. That's the problem. Say, I'm there. I'm there. We get there by faith. Not by works. Not by reading our Bible enough, not by praying enough. We take it by faith. And because I take it by faith, what he needs, what I need to know, he will show me. Because by faith, I'm there. Amen. Well, there's a lot of ways we could go off this. Don't want to miss it this week. We'll see how we go off this. Amen. Listen, we are in the finest hour of the church. We are in the finest hour. We cannot be as effective unless we're in his best. If we're struggling physically, if we're subject to the recoveries and the repercussions of operations. Reba, with your mom, what'd you say? Eleven surgeries. Number one surgery led to number two, led to number three, led to number four. You see, one leads to the next. We got to get out of that cycle. We have to get out of that cycle. I'll go every year for a physical. It doesn't bother me. Doctor can read, no problems, you know. And I had gone in for one, and the doctor said to me, she said, you're of the age. And I would appreciate her keeping her business to herself. My age is not your business. I didn't ask you anything about my age. She said, you're of the age when, you know, I recommend they have. I don't know what it's called, a thing of the heart, you know, where they take a picture of the heart. They just put you through whatever and take a picture of the heart. She said, I just recommend it. She said, so I'm gonna give you an order for it if you want. I said, that's fine. I don't care. I'll give a rip, you know, I'm not afraid. Don't stab the doctor out of fear. That's not faith. That's not faith. That's not faith. And you got a bigger issue than medical. It's a faith issue. And so I set an appointment. I don't care. I'll go in, take a picture. I don't care. There's pictures taken on me. Have you seen how bad I look in some pictures? I mean, the social media's put up some pictures. And I call and I said, who made that brilliant decision? Could you not see ugly all over that? And you thought that was worth broadcasting to the world? Be kind. Well, it looks good. I said, with who lying eyes does it looks good? But anyway, so I've been looked at, you know, it don't matter. It don't matter. Just put a. Put a filter on it. And so I set up an appointment. I'm going to go have it. And the day before the appointment, God said, don't get in their system because they will find something wrong to keep you in their system. They're not the enemy, believe me. I'm not saying they're the enemy. I'm saying you're choosing a system. Every day. Every day you're choosing a system. You get in that system. The medical industry does not make money getting you off medication. I had gone in. They said your vitamin D was low. I took some vitamin D. She said, your vitamin D numbers are good. I said, then can I come off? She said, no, just stay on it. Why? Well, I went off of it. I am my own doctor now. I went off. But I'm saying that industry is to lock people in a system. They're not the enemy. I'm not treating that as the enemy, but I'm saying the system. The system. My best, Jesus said, is that you never. My best is that you never choose your system. Every day we're choosing our system. And the plan of God in this revival needs us in the best flow, not a compromised system. We cannot run as we ought to run in a compromised system, in a lower system. Amen. Well, praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Stand with me to your feet tonight. Father, we thank you. We say we want your best. We take your best. And tonight we choose to. To step into your best. And from every day on, we're making steps that cater to that best. Amen. Well, Pastor Nancy, I'm on a lot of medications. Well, get your faith going. I say get your faith going. You know what the word tells us? It never told us to examine how much faith we have. It did tell us to examine whether or not we're in the faith. We were talking about it at the House the other night is that Peter walked on the water. And you know what Jesus said? O ye of little faith. Little faith. He was still walking on water. Little faith will do a lot. Little faith will do a lot. It's not about the measure of faith. It's, are you using the faith you have? Amen. You can be. You can have faith and not be in it. Just like you can have a house and not be in it. You can have a car and not be in it. You can have faith and not be in it. Well, we're not going to leave our faith vacant. We're occupying our faith. Why? And we're taking our place in his best. Why? This revival calls for us to be at the best. Hallelujah. Well, praise the Lord. Jesus said this to a prophet of God. It matters to heaven. It matters to us. It matters to the plan. Hallelujah. Let's sing something. I want something fresh now.
Worship Leader
I think so. Okay, let me just ask you this. Have you ever planned a trip or a vacation or even a restaurant reservation? You plan out your trip, right?
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah.
Worship Leader
You think of all the wonderful things you're gonna partake of. Let's talk about Hawaii, right? You go to the beach.
Nancy Dufresne
Imagination.
Worship Leader
Imagination. Right before you even go, you're already planning. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna buy this, I'm gonna eat that. I know y' all know something about eating, right? You can. You can think of some places you want to go, eat, partake of. Why in this life should we not expect anything less than God's best? You'll love to plan trips. You love to plant things. You enjoy wanting to. In this life, we expect to enjoy God's best. So let's try and sing this. I expect God's best. I expect God's best. Now listen to this. I will not accept anything less. I explain.
Nancy Dufresne
Come on.
Worship Leader
You think you got that? I expect God's best Yes, I do I expect God's best I will not I will not accept I expect God's best Expect God's best Nothing less Cuz I. I expect God's best I will not I will not accept anything less Because I expect God's best Let's sing it again. I. I expect God's best Yes, I do Yes, I do I expect Expect God's best I will not I will not accept anything less. I expect God's. I will not I will not accept anything less. I expect God. One more time. I will not I, I will not accept anything less. I expect God's best you believe it?
Nancy Dufresne
All right, let's sing it this way. I have God's best Let's sing it that way.
Worship Leader
God's best I will not I will not accept anything less I expect God's best I have I have God's best yes I do I have God's best I will not, I will not I accept anything less I expect God's best Sing it again. I have, I have God's best yes, I do I claim it. I have God's best I will not accept anything less I, I will not I will not accept anything less I accept God I will not, I will not I have God.
Nancy Dufresne
Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. So go do. Go do some talking to yourself. Say, I'm not putting up with this anymore. I'm not putting up with that anymore. I'm not putting up with that. I'm not putting up with that. Amen. Hallelujah. Well, you don't want to miss in in the morning. My, my, my. All the meetings are going to be good. Going to be good. And anyway, that's all I'm going to say. There's some good things this week. I'm just saying turn around to somebody before you're dismissed and say right now, I have God's best. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at dufresneministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Date: January 28, 2025
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne and Worship Leader
Episode Theme: Walking in God’s Best—No Sickness, No Surgeries, No Accidents
This episode centers on Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s teaching about God’s best for His people: living a life free from sickness, surgeries, and accidents. Nancy underscores that God’s power is present and ready, but requires our cooperation and faith to flow into our lives. Drawing on personal testimonies, visions, and a pivotal teaching from Kenneth E. Hagin’s “I Believe in Visions,” Nancy encourages believers to raise their expectations, cooperate with God's power, practice faith daily, and pursue the highest flow of God’s will.
“Assign that power that’s present in the room to your need. Join your faith to that…We take that power for every arena: spiritually, mentally, physically, materially.”
—Nancy Dufresne (02:00)
“It’s never a lack of power; it’s a lack of cooperation with the power…It’s not about getting Him to do His part—it’s about us doing ours.”
—Nancy Dufresne (07:50)
“Where your attention goes is what's going to get movement…Our faith stands not in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.”
—Nancy Dufresne (13:05, 13:40)
“God said, ‘I’m gonna de-quill that spirit of pain by my word, and you’re gonna cooperate with Me.’ Every night, I would visualize…by the Word of God…” —Reba (25:52)
Never let go of spiritual landmarks: Nancy urges believers not to forget the prophetic words and revelations passed down in the Body, referencing Brother Hagin’s book, “I Believe in Visions” (31:46–35:30).
Threefold Will of God:
“It’s my will that none of my children ever be sick, be operated on, or have accidents.”
—Jesus speaking to Kenneth E. Hagin, recounted by Nancy (36:45)
Clarification: Obedience to this word depends on present circumstances; faith is the route, not merely abstaining from medical intervention (39:00).
“It’s not the withholding of medicine that pleases God. It’s the exercise of faith that pleases God.”
—Ed Dufresne (as quoted by Nancy, 46:30)
Jesus gave Kenneth Hagin three reasons: (43:10–46:00)
Key insight: Past experiences, upbringing, and expectations can serve as barriers—renewing the mind and imagination is vital.
“Your expectation will follow your imagination…imagination is important because it’s what your mind and spirit meditate on until the manifestation shows up.”
—Nancy Dufresne (44:10)
Order and obedience matter: Even a small error in divine order (like reversing the roles of teacher and prophet) can open the door to problems (57:00).
Ongoing hearing and skill: Obedience requires continually seeking God’s order for each new season (59:40).
Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s message is a call to elevate our expectations, direct faith toward God’s best, and practice daily cooperation with the Spirit. She urges listeners not to drift into the lower flow, but to on-purpose occupy and expect God’s highest as their daily reality—no sickness, surgeries, or accidents. Through worship, testimonies, and rich teaching, this episode empowers believers to recognize God’s power is present and ready, and it’s time to accept nothing less than His best.
Daily Declaration:
"I have God’s best. I will not accept anything less."
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