Podcast Summary: Living In The Faith Realm | Nancy Dufresne | High Springs, Florida | JTH Crusades 2025 | Sunday PM

Date: May 6, 2025
Host/Speaker: David Dufresne (primary), with contributions from Nancy Dufresne, a Guest Speaker, Worship Leader, and Congregation
Location: High Springs, FL – JTH Crusades

Episode Overview

This vibrant episode from the Dufresne Ministries Podcast centers on the theme of "Living in the Faith Realm." David Dufresne leads the evening session, focusing on the spiritual skill of living from God's eternal, completed realm—often referred to as the "faith realm" or "in Christ" realm—rather than the reality of temporary, changeable earthly circumstances. The episode is energetic, heavily interactive, and punctuated by worship, live demonstrations of faith (healing ministry), and compelling testimonies.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Faith Is "Now": Understanding the Eternal Realm

• David Dufresne kicks off with the declaration that "faith is now," explaining that in God's eternal realm, everything is already complete—healing, prosperity, answers.
  • "In eternity, everything's now. That's why it says faith is now. Because faith is eternity's flow. When you say, I'm going to receive it, you're off what God said... you have to say, have it now." (00:08)
• The permission of faith—speaking in agreement with God's Word—allows what is already achieved in heaven to manifest on earth.
  • "...it’s by your permission, the permission of your faith, you speaking words, that causes what's already completed in God's realm to come into this realm and change this realm." (01:44)

2. The Power of "In Christ"

• Dufresne illustrates living "in Christ" using a testimony from Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, who, by agreeing with their identity in Christ rather than their resources, supernaturally gave beyond their means.
  • "He didn’t go to his resources to decide if he could obey God. He went to in Christ. This is what we have to train ourselves to go to first..." (03:06)
• Emphasis: All wholeness, healing, and provision are found "in Christ"; symptoms and lack exist only outside of Him.
  • "Did you know that because you're in Christ, you're whole now? Outside of Christ is where symptoms are. But in Christ is wholeness." (02:08)

3. Moving with the Spirit: The Demonstrated Word

• David prompts the congregation not to delay ("Why wait?"), inviting those in physical pain for immediate ministry and healing prayers.
• Reinforces the importance of responding when God moves and "demonstrated sermons," not just preached Word.
  • "What's wrong with the demonstrated sermon?... But what's wrong with the demonstrated word?" (06:07)

4. Practical Application: Speaking and Focusing on the Right Realm

• Detailed instructions on shifting attention away from symptoms/problems and instead declaring and focusing on what is true "in Him."
  • "When you're dealing with symptoms... talk about in Christ. Because all opposition, all difficulties are outside of Him. We talk about what we have in him." (06:54)
• Collective healing confessions are spoken over those receiving ministry.

5. The Skill of Living from the Faith Realm

• The faith realm is described as the spirit realm—an unchanging, eternal realm where all promises are secured.
• The natural realm is "up for change" and must yield to the faith realm.
  • "Even though you know what’s going on in this realm, you know another realm trumps it. That’s the skill of faith. You’re just shifting your attention." (14:34)
• God’s presence is accessed by “turning,” not “earning”—by choosing to focus on Him.
  • "Living in my present doesn’t come by earning, it comes by turning. No one has ever turned toward me and me not met them there." (15:50)

6. Testimonies and Words of Knowledge

• Guest Speaker shares a personal testimony of overcoming barrenness and miscarriages, imparting faith for fruitfulness (children, abundance) to the listeners.
  • "Sweetie, look at me. In our ministry years ago, we had two women...one Jewish lady had had a total hysterectomy and she got pregnant... There’s nothing too difficult for our God." (25:17)
• Encouragement for anyone feeling "barren" (physically or spiritually) to receive prayer and expect fruitfulness.
  • "No more disappointment. But full of faith, full of expectancy in the name of Jesus." (25:57)

7. The Role of Words: Manifesting the Faith Realm

• Teaching from Colossians 2:6–7 highlights that what we say aligns us with the realm we attend to—miracles “come to you or go past you” based on your words.
  • "You don’t receive what you believe. You receive what you say. Jesus said he shall have whatsoever He [says]." (28:15)
• The importance of thanksgiving and joy as indicators and activators of living in the faith realm.
  • "With joy and thanksgiving for all he has done... If you're joyful, it's because his realm is your attention." (36:20)

8. Distinguishing Relationship from Fellowship

• Nancy Dufresne clarifies the difference: relationship with God is fixed and legal; fellowship is daily and can vary.
  • "Relationship is a legal term... but within those relationships are to be fellowship... The relationship doesn’t change, but the fellowship can change momentarily." (31:04)

9. Instruction for Daily Living

• Each day, believers must choose what realm to occupy with their attention and words.
  • "Every day you have to get up and set your vision... Jesus said, 'I'm the door.' You choose the world you want to live in." (18:36)
• Challenges listeners to practice shifting their attention away from the temporal and to keep their minds renewed in the truth of their "in Christ" position.
  • "It takes practice and it takes skill. It takes a renewed mind. The unrenewed mind is so entrenched in this realm, all it talks about is this realm." (42:37)

10. Summary Declarations & Encouragement

• The session closes with powerful group confessions and reminders to maintain hunger and expectancy for miracles.
  • "Father, we thank you today... we thank you for what you have for us this week... we're hungry, we're expecting." (45:35)
• The importance of not being on “autopilot” but actively pressing into faith to see manifestation.
  • "I'm not living on autopilot. I'm pressing toward. I'm putting pressure on my covenant. I'm putting pressure on who I am in Christ to partake of that." (51:10)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Faith is now. Because faith is eternity's flow." – David Dufresne (00:08)
• "In Christ, I have it… and in Christ I can give it. Christ made up the difference." (03:06)
• "You move when it's moving. And if you'll move while God's moving, you'll get what God's manifesting." (05:05)
• "The realm you talk about is the realm that will manifest." (36:18)
• "Living in my present presence doesn’t come by earning, it comes by turning." (15:50)
• "You don’t receive what you believe. You receive what you say." (28:15)
• "Miracles are coming to you or going past you... because the miracle realm is all around you." (27:42)
• "Fellowship trumps and is really... the gold package of that relationship." – Nancy Dufresne (31:04)
• "I said, we're all about the now. We've had enough of that waiting business... I'm whole right now." (43:28)
• "The place you talk about is the place you live." (47:44)
• "Aren't you glad to know you're not sentenced to this realm? He whom the Son sets free… Free from this realm. Now into the faith realm." (48:52)
• "You don't get miracles because you pray for them. You get miracles because you're hungry for them." (50:18)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:08 – The nature of faith and eternity, “everything is now.”
• 02:08 – Explanation of “in Christ” and story about Kenneth Copeland’s faith.
• 05:00 – Invitation for immediate healing ministry.
• 06:54 – Speaking about being whole and pain-free “in Him.”
• 14:34 – The skill of shifting from the natural realm to God’s realm.
• 25:17 – Guest Speaker’s testimony of overcoming barrenness and encouragement for the barren.
• 28:15 – Power of words in receiving from God.
• 31:04 – Nancy Dufresne explains the difference between relationship and fellowship.
• 36:20 – Thanksgiving and joy as evidence of living in the faith realm.
• 43:28 – “We’re all about the now”—group declarations.
• 45:35 – Closing declarations and encouragement to be “hungry” for God.
• 50:18 – Quoting Oral Roberts: "You get miracles because you're hungry for them."

Final Thoughts & Takeaways

This session is both deeply instructional and inspirational, filled with practical ways to make the unseen realities of faith tangible in everyday life. The Dufresnes' teachings emphasize that everything a believer needs is already present and obtainable “in Christ”—if only believers will train themselves to focus on and speak from that realm. The session combines bold teaching, personal testimonies, dynamic ministry, corporate worship, and a call to fresh expectation and spiritual hunger.

Listeners are encouraged to:

• Practice shifting their focus daily to the completed work "in Christ."
• Use faith-filled words to see God’s realm manifest in their circumstances.
• Maintain expectancy and joy as signs of living in the faith realm.
• Cultivate not only a relationship with God but vibrant, daily fellowship.

The atmosphere is charged with expectancy, urgency, and joy—a call to experience all that God has already provided, today, in the "now" of faith.