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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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You know, the Bible says surely one of the strongest words in the Bible, surely. Take it to the bank, right? What is Psalm 23 ends with goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days. That means today. All the days of my life, you ever felt like you had something? You know, you're being watched some, you're always looking over your shoulder, and a lot of times, you know, you can feel like something negative. And, you know, for me, part of renewing my mind to the goodness of God has been, you know, as I began to serve God and experience the blessings of God, you know, I still hadn't quite renewed my mind to what it was like to live outside of Christ. And outside of Christ, I would have seasons of some good things to happen in my life. But then eventually the shoe would drop. You ever heard that expression, when's the other shoe gonna drop? And for years, even in my walk with God, this thought would come to me. I had to resist it. Can't stay this good forever. But that's not what the Word says. All my life, all my life, all my life, goodness and mercy are following me. And that's the only thing. Following you, following me. And, you know, we need to remember that when we're walking through things, when circumstances come. I love what the psalmist David said. He said, had I not believed that I would see the goodness of God in the land of the living, surely my foot would have stumbled and I would have fallen. And it matters not only that God is good, but that we believe. You need to believe individually. You know, one of the lies that I've had to let, learn to let go of is that God won't do for me what I've seen Him do for others, you know, because I live with me, you know, and it's very easy to have a performance based, you know, if I'm a good boy, God will bless me. But if I'm. If I miss it or am I less than it, you know, but, oh, thank God. Thank God for His goodness and what we've seen, the good things God does for others, God will do for us. So, Father, we thank youk for your goodness. We thank youk for your mercy. We thank youk for this moment in time and the great privilege we have to get to be in this room, not just the physical room, but the room, the place in the spirit that we are enjoying together. God, we thank you for it. Now, Lord, I just simply ask you to help me to help them. In Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Well, God bless you. Thank you, everybody. You guys could be seated this morning. Hallelujah. It's a good day. It is the day that the Lord has made. And the blessing that makes rich is on me. It's on us. The favor of God surrounds us. Come on in. Something good. It's going to happen to me today. Hallelujah. Well, Pastor, thank you for the honor and the privilege of being invited to minister and to be asked. I like the way you said it. It's not my opportunity, it's God's opportunity. And I know that there are so many wonderful giftings and able anointings and so many that could get up here and preached circles around me. But I was paying attention to the man of God right yesterday. And I'm just going to be bold that all right. I probably won't growl at you like he did. Amen. But I'll be bold. Let's get into it this morning. First Timothy, chapter one is where I'd like us to begin. Aren't we blessed by what we've heard? You know, there's such blessing in hearing. Hearing is vital. Vital. I like something my friend Dr. Keith Rogan said. He said, you know, you cannot have what you are not taught. And so much of the time the flow of teaching is in the hearing. Isn't that right? And I am just so thankful for that. And you know, we're all learning, aren't we? We're all growing. But as vital and as important as hearing is, more important is the doing. You know, as wonderful as the hearing is, there is a deception. What is the deception? Well, James said, the deception is that we think, having heard and said amen, that that's all that's required of us to experience what we heard. And I appreciate James because he's a straight shooter. James in the Bible, right. I love the statements he'll make. He say, you know, just understand if you doubt, you don't get anything from God. See, God's just fair. It's just a straight shooter. Make it plain. And he said, we need to be doers, not just hearers. We hear so we know what to do and the blessing is in the doing. Amen. So are you a doer or a hearer or both? Come on, let's be both this morning. Praise God. So here in First Timothy, chapter one, Paul, who is a spiritual father to this young and courageous, wonderful minister, Timothy, his Spiritual Son, verse 18, 1st Timothy 1:18. It says, this charge, I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare. Next, two words are holding faith. Amen. And so notice here that this is a charge. He didn't say, hey, Timothy, it would be a good thing. He didn't even say. I strongly suggest he commanded him. If you get a charge, you are commanded. Amen. This was included in the canon of our scripture. This applies to us. I said, this applies to us. You know, when God ministers to us through prophecy, you know, I prophesy to myself in my prayer time, prophecy is simply inspired utterance in a known tongue unto edification, exhortation, or comfort. Amen. If it's got revelation in it, you've moved over into either the word of knowledge or the word of wisdom. Amen. You know, but many times I carry in a notebook here the prophecies that God has ministered to me primarily through my spiritual father and my spiritual mother. Amen. The ones that I'm submitted to, I've got things in here that God has told me directly, but the things that Dr. Dufresne told me by the Spirit, Dr. Jacobs, Pastor Nancy. Amen. And I knew a couple of days ago, should I receive the honor of being asked to minister what I should minister? And then it was only confirmed as Pastor Craig got up and ministered what he did. And I was just sitting there, I leaned over, I said, he's got to get off my message. Help him, Father, not to miss you. And you were helped. You did just enough to set me up, but not ruin it. So good on you. Amen. I just love how God weaves things and works things together. I just marvel at it. And the Lord had dealt with me. He said, I want you to minister if you are asked on the anointing to prosper. And I want you to deal with finances. So the title of my message this morning is money Matters. Money matters. Now, I like that word matters because it's got a little bit of a play on words, right? So one thing I want to communicate in the title of the message is your money matters. We should not diminish its place. How many people should be here this morning and they are not? And the reason they're not is because of money. Now, maybe sincerely, they wanted to be here, but they didn't have it. See, money mattered to their being here, but then many others are out there trying to get money, and they value that more than being here. And we're Finding out in the positive, in the negative, money matters. How many people are not serving God today because of money? How many people are out of the will of God today because of money? We do ourselves and the body of Christ a great disservice if we ignore this issue. There are more scriptures by far about money and finances. Then there are a great many subjects all added up and put together. You know, Dr. Jacobs talks about how there are over 300 references in the Bible to angels. That's a lot of references. Amen. There are many references to salvation, heaven and hell, faith. How many of you know faith? That's a big deal. You take all those subjects, you add them together and you wouldn't even get a third of the Scriptures, the territory, the real estate in the Bible dedicated to money and finances. Now that doesn't mean that money and finances are more important than faith or more important than salvation. Right. And I'm certainly not want to convey that sentiment as well, but so why is so. The reason I believe there's so much dedicated to it is because it is such a tripping point for humanity. And I tell you what, as I told my son on the way over here, the devil will have finally had it. It will be over for him when the church gets the money. You know, if there's anything holding me back, it's not vision, it's not knowledge or awareness of what God would desire to do through me, my wife, our family, our ministry and those connected to us. You give me $44 million today, I've got it spent. I tell you, I've got it spent. I'm going to have to look for the next 44 million. It's like Brother Jesse said, he asked God for 100 million. He thought that would be enough to do everything God had called him to do. And he's had to go back to God again and again and again and again. Amen. Praise God. Well, we need to get the money. You need more money. You ought to just be plain about it. So the other thing about money matters is the word matters can convey the idea things that relate to. So that's the title of my message that gives me a real broad umbrella to operate. Amen. Number one, your money matters. And number two, we're going to talk about things related to relevant to your money, specifically the anointing to prosper. And so the reason I started out, you could go back to Luke 4, where we were yesterday. But the reason I wanted to start in first Timothy 1:18, was because I wanted to convey a Prophecy that was given to me. In 2017, I was here in the Bible school ministering on the subject of Bible prosperity. And I was just minding my own business in my hotel room and just enjoying my fellowship time with the Lord, preparing for class. And all of a sudden, I didn't hear a voice. But down on the inside of me very distinctly, I heard the Spirit of God begin to speak to me. When that happens to me and my computer's around, rather than trying to get a tape recorder, I just scoot over to my computer, open up like a Word document or something, close my eyes and type it out as close as I can to what I'm hearing God say in my heart. Would this be okay? So you're just going to have to listen to me say this now, in 2017, understand? Also, in my church, I had preached 35 messages in a row on the blessing of the Lord. You know, the Bible says in Proverbs 10:22, the blessing of the Lord makes rich, and to it he adds no sorrow. Amen. And I'd been preaching on that 35 times in a row. And so there's a little context. So here's the first thing I heard the Spirit of God say to me. He said, yes, there is an anointing to prosper. Now, I don't know, maybe you've heard that term. I don't think I had heard that term quite like that. There's an anointing to prosper. He said, you've been calling it the blessing, and that's right and true, but right. On the other hand, there is an anointing to prosper, for every yoke and every burden has an anointing. You follow me. If it's a yoke, if it serves in one's life as a burden, According to Isaiah 10:27, there is an anointing to destroy that yoke, come on, and remove that burden. Spirit of God went on and said, you know, well, talking to me personally, the yoke and burden of lack. And I laughed. Yeah, that was right. You know, of things being straightened and tough in the financial realm. He said, it's the anointing to produce the promise of the blessing that comes in and destroys the yoke and burden of the curse of lack and want. Did I not say, for the Spirit of the Lord is upon me to preach the gospel to the poor? We'll read it here in a minute. But we read it yesterday. Jesus said, the Spirit of the Lord is upon me, for he hath anointed me. What's the subject anointing, the anointing. And then he gives the job description of his anointing. He said to me, did I not say, the spirit of the Lord is upon me to preach the gospel to the poor? The gospel is the cure for lack. Now, I had heard that before by reading Pastor Nancy's book. I have a supply. Amen. What a wonderful revelation and truth that is. So many people think what they need is more money. I found out as a young guy, young married guy, that I thought I needed more money and then I'd get more money. But I didn't change my mind. And so I had more money and I just acted in kind with my current mindset and increased my expenses. And the moment I did that, I'm right back where I was. And now I need more money. And you find yourself in your boss's office putting pressure on the boss to give you more money, when the vast majority of the time it's not more money we need. Amen. You know, and Pastor Nancy teaches us in that great book, if you need more money, what you ought to do is fill up on the gospel. If you're experiencing lack. The cure for that is not overtime. It's not abandoning your helps ministry position for a few more hours of work and labor. Dr. Dufresne would teach us. He would say, you do not have to break your body down, forsake your place in the local church. Out there trying to get money. God will take care of you. God is not a deadbeat dad. Amen. You know, I try to teach my people when they come in and they get on fire for God and they begin to get a revelation of the place and the importance of the local church. But they have a job. And, you know, I live in a community where there's a lot of service industry and rotating, what do we call it, job schedules and hours, you know, shifts and things going on, service industry type things. And I just tell them, listen, I'm not saying quit, but your heart is to be here. The plan of God is for you to be here. Believe God. I'm going to believe with you. And God is big enough to pay your bills in a job that will allow you to be where you're supposed to be. Say Amen. Praise God. So anyway, the spirit of God went on and he said to me, as you preach the message of prosperity to your congregation, the anointing is there to destroy the yoke of poverty in their lives. Now stay with me because there's something here that you fit in this, and I want you to get it. And so again, he went on and said, if people, your people, is that right? Don't get quiet on me. If people will sit under that message with their hearts wide open and their faith active to receive, they will partake of that anointing and it will work, it will flow. It will do a work in them, it will do a work for them. That's what the anointing does. It comes to do a work, and it shall work. He compared it to the healing anointing. He said, just like the healing anointing, when the manifestation of that is there, it's there to do a work to drive out sickness and to destroy the yoke of disease. So too, what is the anointing to prosper for? Then what's the job description of the anointing to prosper? Amen. It's to do a work. Amen. How does it work? Well, he told me it works just like Pastor Craig told us yesterday. It works as it is proclaimed. You know, the healing anointing. I have a healing anointing. The healing anointing works very different than the anointing to prosper. If you're going to be skillful with any anointing that's on your life, you're going to have to learn how that anointing works. The healing anointing in my life doesn't work exactly like I see it and hear it working in Pastor Nancy's life. There's similarities, but I've got to learn how God is flowing in that healing anointing through me. Is that right? Well, you know, he's telling me there's a. There's an anointing to prosper. I want to know how it works. Well, Jesus said, you know, a lot of times in the healing anointing, for me, it comes through the laying on a hands. It might come through the word of knowledge. Are you with me? That tangible healing anointing can come and it could just be transmitted and imparted. So I have to cooperate with that. Well, how does this anointing to prosper work? Well, here it says you. I'm anointed to proclaim it. And that's not new. We learned that yesterday. Even in the area of demonic influence, even demonic possession, there is a speaking, there is a declaring, there is a role for the minister. I'm not just talking fivefold. You could find yourself at Walmart in the place of a minister. Amen. And you are to set them into freedom with your authority, with your words. Jesus is saying, I am anointed to proclaim a message to people if they will receive it. There's a power, a yoke destroying power, a burden removing power that doesn't touch physical beings. It works in people's finances. I give y' all permission to shout anytime you're ready. Maybe you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, but I wasn't. So anyway, I'm almost done with this part. But he says many will not receive it, and that's always been true. But he said, but many will and many shall be blessed as they mix their faith and respond to that anointing that comes when this message is preached. Now, this is his instruction to me. So preach it. Preach it and expect that anointing to come in great power. Now, for two days and last night in prayer, I've been stirring myself this direction. I'm expecting that anointing to do its work. This says it's assigned work to usher in a new condition in the lives of my people. New day of blessing, of supply and of. I love this phrase, he said, and of the ability to enjoy the blessings. You know, a lot of people have big house, they don't enjoy it. They can't go have ice cream because that big house tells them you can't. You can't go have ice cream. You got to pay for me. You can't even keep the lights on in me. You can't go have pizza. You don't get to buy a new tie today. You know, it's one thing to have something, but the real blessing of God is the grace to enjoy. Enjoy it. All my brothers, let me say I have to be truthful, don't I? Most of my brothers, that's accurate, have boats. And they've all told me there are the two greatest days that you experience when you have a boat is the day you buy it and the day you get rid of it. Right? It's one thing to have something. You might have a wife. Pastor Craig told me to be bold. We're going to blame it all on him. It's another thing to enjoy your wife. You might have kids. It's another thing to enjoy it. You might have a helps ministry position. It's another thing to enjoy it. But when the see there's no sorrow attached, the blessing of the Lord said, if they will. I'm paraphrasing now, if they'll receive this anointing, it will do its assigned work and usher in a brand new condition in the lives of my people. The ability to enjoy the blessings is included in that. And then he said, and to be a blessing. How many of you know you're dismissed from the whole subject of Bible prosperity? If you're not interested in being a blessing, you just go ahead and tune me out. But I want to be a blessing. And he ended by saying, and as funders of the era, that happened to me in 2017, it just seems like yesterday. So that puts me. That was February. So we're full eight years from that prophetic word. And since then, God added a ministry. Been a happy and contented pastor for be 25 years next year. But he has added a traveling arm of my ministry. And for the last three years, I can't think of an occasion where he had me minister on something else than what I'm ministering right now. And we have begun. It's a small sample size, but we have begun to see some amazing miracles. Now, you might look at me and say, I don't know if I ought to receive this message from you, because I know I got more money than you. You didn't hear me right. What God told me in 2017, he said, the anointing to prosper has come upon you and your wife to abide. There has been an anointing on me since that day to minister on finances to the body of Christ. Now, I didn't tell Pastor Nancy that in 2019, that's two years later, she's at my church. She gets over in the Spirit and says, and I have it here. But the gist of it was, God's bringing you into a brand new room, a brand new room of revelation. In that room of revelation is coming light and understanding on the subject of Bible prosperity. And I love this and the utterance to say it. She said, by the Spirit. Because it's one thing to see it, it's another thing to be able to say it in a way that people can. And I need all the help I can get from God. So, you know, I don't know what you're doing out there now, but I'm expecting. I'm wearing a sport coat today that Brother Davila sewed into my life.
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This is the second one he sown. I'm not trying to, you know, shine the light on him, but he was a Bible student, I understand. And I came through and did my thing preaching on prosperity. And he said he just really got ahold of that anointing and it began to do a work. And he said that one of the manifestations of that work is this Car I've been dreaming about, and it's out there in the parking lot, Dr. Cody. And just how it's changed my life. We've seen. I've ministered this message to the Bible students, and I've seen Bible students have come back to me and said, I got car. I got all my tuition paid. I got a new job. Just all kinds of things. Where's Joe Canada at? Is my friend Joe Canada in here? I know I saw him on campus. There he is. Joe Canada. Stand up. Let everybody see. Now, I dubbed him. That was my. I know he has a last name, but, you know, I have girls, and then I have adopted girls in my church. And we went to this meeting, and they all saw Joe Canada before he got married. And I'm trying to figure out who this. Who this guy is. And all I knew, he's from Canada. Yeah. And we're in a hotel. And I said, you're from Canada, right? Yeah, I'm. Big country. I'm from Canada. I said, there's this guy, you know, and tried to describe him. And she. And she knew who he was. Anyway, you said to my son yesterday, right, Joe Canada, that I ministered to you by the spirit along this line. Is that right? And you said, just recently, your business endeavor has just topped $100,000 in revenue, and in the last four weeks, you've made $40,000. I didn't have anything to do with that. God is ministering through an anointing on an Okie from Muskogee. You know what qualifies me to preach this is God uses the foolish things of this world to confound the wise. And I just marvel. I was just so excited. You had a brother named Tarek, right? He left your church because he married a girl in Nashville. Electrician. Is this right? He came into one of my meetings, and I was ministering on this subject. He's starting all over as an electrician in Nashville. I laid my hands on him, and I started hearing myself say, double, double, double. And he told me he came back. I bumped into him about a year later. He said, pastor Chris, you wouldn't believe my business has doubled. And then it's doubled. And I want to say doubled again, but I have to be truthful, and I don't want to exaggerate, but he just said it was just amazing. I went to Pastor Luke Hobbs Church. He just moved into a new building, and God had me minister on this. And they're a growing congregation, and they got mortgage payments on this beautiful new building. They have. So I ministered this. And about six months later, I saw him in a meeting with Dr. Jacobs. He said, pastor, I got to tell you something. He said, my offerings immediately doubled after you left and they never went back down. He said this was like November or October. We had that big meeting for Dr. And he said, I have mortgage payments saved up into like March or April of next year. See, there's a. We don't have to just grind out finances. The natural. There's an anointing. I said, there's an anointing. Hallelujah. My finances have changed since then. Our church's finances have changed since then. Just last year, I ministered for a new pastor in the Fellowship in London, Kentucky. He caught me at the Paducah Jesus the Healer crusade. Pastor Chris, you wouldn't believe it. He said, you, you ministered. I know you didn't. That's the first time you're ever in that church. You don't know any of them. And you were prophesying to them about businesses that they had and you didn't know they had them. And they have just exploded in their growth, in their. I'm not bragging, you understand? I'm not bragging on me. I'm not trying to bring attention to me. In fact, I wanted to draw back from that kind of thing. But then Pastor Craig said that I needed to know how the job description works and be bold in it. Notice Jesus, he stands up and he says, the spirit of the Lord is on me. And he didn't apologize for it, but he wasn't bringing attention to himself. That would be wrong. He's bringing attention to the anointing on his life. Why not? So that they could get mad about it. So they could have faith in it. So that they knew what was available. I don't know exactly everything about how the spirit of God may have me minister to you at the end of this service this morning. But listen, part of. He said, this anointing will work as you proclaim it. As you. As you. As I do my part and you sit under it. You need to expect God is ushering me into a brand new financial condition. You know, I tire of Christians who lie and say they don't believe in prosperity. They're lying. Maybe there is one. I have not yet met. Yet met a Christian of any stripe that doesn't believe in prosperity. The Baptists believe in prosperity. The Presbyterians believe in prosperity. You believe in prosperity. Everyone believes in prosperity. Well, how do you know? Well, because this is how I say how many of you have ever gone in? Your boss called you in and said, hey, had a great, great year this year in the company. Here's your year end bonus. It's triple what it was last year. It's 25,000. And you said, I'm sorry, I can't take it. I don't believe in prosperity. I don't believe in it. And the boss said, well, I was also going to increase Your salary by 25,000 a year next year. He said, thank you, I am behind in my mortgage, but I don't believe you ever met anybody like that. No, everybody believes in prosperity. Everybody, everybody believes in it. But then they want to come into church and get religious. And then there's this term. Y' all heard this term prosperity gospel. Oh, it's everywhere. And they mean, they don't mean to. That's not positive. I mean, they might have called you a bad word. I mean, a dirty name. I was preaching along on this, my church, maybe last year, year before last. And I guess I said the word rich, rich, rich, rich, rich like five times in one sentence. And the. One of my gals did a little video clip and put it out on social media. Well, it's. Oh, it didn't bother me. And so I come in where the staff is, they're all little gathered around a group of them and I said, what are you doing? They said, oh, Pastor, have you seen this? This is blown up. This is like not mini viral. And he said we had to turn the comments off, Pastor. Don't read them. I said, it doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me. I said, rex, tell me your favorite. I don't want to know all of them, but tell me your favorite. He said, well, dad, my favorite was one guy got on there. He said, I'm really not religious and I don't really know if there's a hell, but if there's a hell, this guy is going there. That's a good one. Good one. After brother Keith was talking to us about his airplane, I wanted to look at the model number and you know, just see, just see it, you know, get, get an idea of what it, what he was talking about. And I happened to see a Christian Post magazine article on it. And they said, okay, here's what he paid for it. And he said, here's what the average airline ticket costs in his area. He said with the money he spent on that aircraft, he could have bought 27,250 airline tickets. I thought, these people just don't get it just don't get it. You get a visceral. You get a visceral reaction. Amen. But is that true prosperity gospel? It's like you're going to go to hell. My God don't preach prosperity. And everybody believes in it. Everybody believes in it. I've had people leave me and leave the will of God for $2 more an hour. Don't tell me they don't believe in prosperity. Lost their marriage, lost their fellowship with God, Took their gifting into the bar out of fellowship with God since that day for two. Yeah, they believe in prosperity. They believe in a wrong kind of prosperity. I'm preaching good. Y' all are helping me. Amen. So think about this with me. An anointing to prosper, okay? As Pastor Craig pointed out when Jesus declared this, it is the first. Does money matter? Let's find out. Does it matter to God? You know, if it didn't matter to God, I wouldn't think it went. God found me drunk. He delivered me drunk and suicidal at a college frat party. And I gave him my whole life. And he didn't say anything to me about money. That moment didn't have anything to do with money. I didn't care about money. And if I got to serving him and I was just so glad to be saved, get that weight of guilt and shame and that spirit of suicide off my life where I had peace and a little bit of a sense of purpose, and to know that, hey, if my life ends tomorrow, I'm not going to go to hell, I'm going to die and go to heaven. And if God, if I never found out anything about money and I just got to eke it out and cut coupons and all of that, I would have been fine. I'm just so glad to know him, to be out from underneath that weight. But as you read the word, it's undeniable. The first anointing. The first thing, the first Job description of the anointing on Jesus life is to proclaim a good news message that will break the yoke and bondage of lack and poverty off your life. What does 3 John 2 say? Beloved, I pray above all things that thou be spiritual. He could have. That would have been a good spot to put that word. I pray above all things that you be strong in faith. And we know that's right. But the spirit of God on this man of God said, I pray above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health. Now, the Greek language that this was originally written in has More tenses than the English. In English we have three tenses, past, present and future. Right? But I think the Greek has like upwards of nine. And I understand from Greek scholars that this verse 3 John 2 was written in the continuous sense. They have a sense where it's a layer of how it's grammatically written, that whatever it's being talked about, it's letting you know. This is an unending, ongoing, never to be interrupted flow. That's why the wuest translation says something like this. I pray above all things. Things that thou mayest enter into and enjoy ongoingly prosperity and only health. See, I had to renew my mind. This can't be this good for this long. We are not supposed. It's not God's plan that we have seasons of financial stability and prosperity and then we go through the wilderness of supposed to enter into that flow and enjoy it ongoing, continually. Lest I digress, priority. Does our money matter? The first miracle Jesus ever performed. The first one John, chapter two. We're not turning. There was a financial. It was a miracle of provision, turning the water into wine. The first. What is the first flow that the Bible talks about when you get under the ministry and influence of the good shepherd. The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want, I shall not lack. The first thing the good shepherd is going to just delete right out of your life is not having enough. It is foreign to God. He doesn't get it. He can't think that. He doesn't compute that way. I love what brother Keith Moore said. Service I listened to. He said, one fault of God, if you want to call it that is he does not know when the cup is full. He just does not know. He either does not know or he does not care. Because. Right. What did David say? He said, my cup is half full. He gave. I got a swallow from God. No, no, no. He didn't say, I'm half full, full three quarters full. He didn't even say I'm full. He said, my cup runneth over, runneth over, runneth over, runneth over, runneth over. Are you ready for some running over? Can you see David going, thank you, Father. No, Father. Father, it's almost full, Father, it's rolling. It's coming on, Father. Stripping on the table. God's like, I know I like it. Isn't it great? Isn't that great? He said, you need to get in. Get in this. Think about how I think about it, David. He said, father, it's running off the table. It's Spilling on the carpet. He goes, I know. Isn't it great? I love it. I like it. This is the way I want it. That's the way I laugh. Luke 6:38. Give. You might get a little something. No. Give and it shall be given good measure, pressed down, shaken together. My little grandmama, Grandma Merriman, my mom's mom, had these big oaks in her city lot in Tulsa. And she loved having the grandkids over in the fall. And she'd say, boys, get out there and rake the leaves. And she would give us. She said, don't come back in until you fill these bags with leaves. Okay, Grandma. So Ben and I, we get out there and we're raking leaves and it's dry. So the leaves are dry and, you know, nice and light. And we put them in there, we fill the bags and in short order we're back in. Grandma goes, uh huh. No, no. She walked out. She's about this tall, a cotton picker back in the depression days of Oklahoma. And they would give her a dollar for 80 pounds of cotton that she had to stuff in a sack. Can you imagine pulling the cotton off the boil, putting it in a burlap sack until you get £80 of that? And she's this tall. So she knew. She. I don't know if she knew what Luke 6:38 meant, but she said. So she got the water hose out and she wet those leaves down and she said, look at this. You can get more leaves in that bag, honey. She would save her soap slivers. She said, don't she throw that slope sliver down the drain. I save all my soap slivers and I put them together and make a new bar of soap. That's poverty thinking. But she said, I paid for that trash bag. You're going to fill it up. It's amazing how much leaves you could get into that bag. But she had the heart of God. Good measure pressed down. Why do you shake it? Get the air out. There's space in there. There's space in there. How many of you believe you got some space? Got some space? How many of you are tithers? What did he say? I'll pour out blessing upon you until all your base bills are current. No, you don't have room enough to receive it. The first supernatural experience. If I've studied this correctly, I'm open to correction. That Peter had with the Master was a financial miracle in the harvest of his fish. I'd follow him too, Bless God one day changed the entire condition. One manifestation of the anointing to prosper. I heard brother Philip slaughter preaching, and he said he was preaching on prosperity, preaching along this line. He's preaching out of kings. Where I think it was Elijah that said to the woman, what do you have in your house? You heard this story? Not sure yet. If you pick up on it and I stray from the truth, you let me know. I heard this story once. And so he said he had this black mama in the congregation there. And when he said that, he's just preaching along. And the prophet said to the woman, who's in financial straits, what do you have in your house? This black mama stood up in the church, in the congregation, interrupted his preacher and said, all I have in my house is painted rocks. She just interrupted his old service. He stopped. He said he didn't know what to do. So he checked inside. He said, well, I got to prove myself to be a man of God here. I can't just let this go. So he said, mother, come up here. And he got a little bit, I guess, of her background and how do I say this? In a woke culture here, she had some intellectual challenges, right? And no education none. And really on the verge of just living a destitute life. And he said, tell me about these painted rocks. And I think she showed her one, showed him one. He said it was bad. He was not art. I mean, it was ugly, it was bad. And he said what seemed right to tell her was, mother, you go and take your painted rocks to boutiques and you ask them if they will sell your painted rocks. And she went and did what the man of God said. And he said his testimony was, people started buying her painted rocks. And the next thing she bought was a car. And the next thing she did, now that she has a car, she went and rolled herself and took classes, and she just kept selling. And she sold so many painted rocks, it funded her education. She became a very prominent, successful woman. Is. So today there's an anointing. Come on. There's an anointing, and we can break into this flow, Everybody. We can break into it. Peter said, boss, I was in town, got what you asked for, but they asked me for tribute money and asked me for yours, too. I didn't know what to tell them. I don't have any money for it. And so he taught them a little bit. And he said, you know, lest we offend them. He didn't say, now go down to the day loan place, get a loan. He didn't say, here's my tunic, go to the Pawn shop. See what we can get for it. Who would have had this thought? Someone with the anointing to prosper. He said, go to the lake. You like doing that? Throw in your hook. First fish you catch open its mouth, get the coin, go pay your taxes. And mine, too. Hey, everybody, That's Sweatless Victory. Just trying to tell you there's an anointing to prosper. Amen. Oh, hallelujah. Praise God. Can you handle a little more here? Go to Proverbs chapter 10. I've got to just do this part real quick. Proverbs 10. Are you blessed? You know, poverty is not. Your being in lax is not holy. And wealth is God's will. I said wealth is God's will. You need some. What is wealth? Could we agree on this, just real quick? If the words wealth and rich, if we could agree, are Bible words, for those words to mean anything to have any relevance, they've got to at least mean this a whole lot more than what you need. So what might be rich for him might be a lot different for somebody else where they are. But if it's going to mean anything, it's got to at least mean a whole lot more than what you need. Well, to the one that delights greatly in the Lord's commandments, who fears the Lord, who praises God continually, what does it say? Wealth and riches shall be in his house. You know, it's a poverty mentality that will not reach beyond what it needs. It's a poverty mentality that will not reach beyond what it needs. Poverty will not allow you to reach for what it would enjoy. But my Bible says God gives us richly all things to enjoy. So, Proverbs 10:15. Look at what this says. The rich man's wealth is his undoing. Y' all gonna stop me? You should. Is that what it says? The rich man's wealth is his stumbling place? Nope. The rich man's wealth is his strong city. Back then, to be safe, you fortified your city. You had walls and bars and gates. And here the proverb writer is saying the rich man's words, riches. The rich man's wealth is to him walls that fortify and defend his life. But then he contrasts that with the poor. The destruction of the poor is their poverty. It's not a blessing. Poverty is a destructive force. You're vulnerable. The good food, the organic food, the uncontaminated food costs more. Every time I tell Dr. Hadibaugh of a fast food restaurant I likes, he tells me something bad about it. He's helping me. Not going to ruin your world. So you just be ignorant, pray, and believe God. So, you know, I'll just. Well, if the better food costs more, I can pay for it. Rex went to p. F. Chang's. Got one dish, one dish, one entree, Some pork dumplings, and I got a medium lemonade, and it was $53 before tip. Whoa. It's rice, right? It's breaded chicken and some veggies. I don't care. I want it. My man of God liked it. I like it. Kung pao chicken. I got a supply. Go with me to ecclesiastes. We'll have more fun. Ecclesiastes, chapter 7. See, we have to renew our mind. Religion will tell you you better stay away from. It's wrong. It's. I'm not talking about being greedy. I'm not talking about being covetous. I have never, you know, I'm a lot of things, but I have never not followed what I knew was the plan of God for my life, to compromise that for finances. And it has not been easy for amber and I, in many ways, financially, to do what God has told us to do. You wouldn't believe the opposition I faced this morning. Not just financial, but in other realms. It just told me God really wanted to move this morning. Praise God. But I'm not doing this for the money. But I found out the money goes with it. Jesus suffered in his passion so that he was made sin with our sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in christ. He was made sick with our sicknesses that we might be healed by his stripes. But 2 Corinthians 8 around verse 9 says that though he was so very rich, he became poor so that you and I, through his poverty, might be rich. Now, that means spiritually. No, it don't. I know that's not good english. It works in kentucky. No, it don't. You have to violate the context of two whole chapters to make that spiritual. It's financial. It's material. Amen. Ha ha. Ecclesiastes 7:12. For wisdom is a defense, and money is a curse. No. What is money? It's a defense. It's a defense. The more money you had going into Covid, the more safeguarded you were. Now we found out didn't matter in times of famine. God was true to his word in the fof camp. I don't know how much money we started with, but I ended up with more money. I ended up with far more money coming out of COVID than I did. I had more members. Our Church was stronger. The blessing of the Lord makes rich. Hallelujah. Live under the banner of an anointing. But let's not over spiritualize this money's not evil. This says that money just as much as a defense to someone's life as is wisdom. It's in the same context. You see, if you got money, you go do preventive maintenance on your teeth. You only got one set. You ought to have them scraped every now and then, have them clean, fill the holes, right? How many this has happened? You know, it has people that did not were not able to get the medication. They didn't have faith to be healed. They couldn't get the medication. Why they didn't have the money. How many people neglected a symptom in their body and they didn't go get help at the doctor? How many marriages have failed? How much headaches, hypertension, high blood pressure has happened as the body breaks down because people don't know how to cast their cares? And one third of marriages in the United States break apart over financial pressure. Don't tell me money doesn't matter. You lost me. Amen. One more of these. Go to Psalm 12. I found this a few months ago so precious to me. Psalm 12:5. Psalm 12. 5. I hope I'm all right. I hope I'm not going too long here. You know, we are approaching our descent, so if you're needing to be encouraged, you know, in an airplane. Captain will, come on. We are about to be making our initial approach. They don't tell you how long they're going to taxi on the Runway after they land. Look at this precious verse. Psalm 12:5. For the oppression of the poor. Notice what's connected to poor. Doesn't sound like God to me. There is a Hebrew word for poor that means to be depressed in mind or circumstance. That's what that Hebrew word for poor means. It's not a blessing for the oppression of the poor. For the sighing. Hear the spirit of this verse. The pain, the sighing of the needy. Now this is God. Now I will arise and tell them to be holy in their poverty. No. I will arise, saith the Lord. I will set him. I'm reading King James in safety. You're not safe. It's not safe to be poor. Everybody. It's not safe to be poor. Amen. It's not safe not to have a savings account. It's not not faith to have a reserve account. You got to throw out a whole bunch of scriptures to not have a savings account. Wisdom foresees a need and prepares itself. We're meant to live in the blessing, not bailouts. Miracles, often financial miracles in the Bible came as a bailout. The two financial miracles that we have recorded of Elijah and Elisha, they were bailouts. Something really bad was going to happen to them. Children were going to be lost for slavery. And thank God. God will do a miracle to bail us out. He has done it for me. But that's not the flow of our life. We live in the blessing. We live in the blessing. Don't be condemned, but just head the right direction. This verse in the Lexham English translation, listen to it. It says, because of the oppression of the afflicted, the poor, because of the groaning of the poor, of the needy, it says, now will I rise up. Yahweh says, I will put them, I will set them in the safety that which they have longed for. One translation says, the financial security. That's what God. He wants to stop. He doesn't want to hear the groaning. I know you don't know where I am. The groaning, the sighing, the sorrow, the pain. He wants that to stop. Amen. Amen. Let's. I think we'll close over here in the Neighborhood of Deuteronomy 8. Now, as I've learned and studied and meditated, and I'm happy to be judged by these scholars in the room, there's two sides to the anointing that I see. A negative side and a positive side. What do I mean? What would be the negative side of the anointing? Well, what did it say? It will destroy yokes. It will remove burdens. That's why you never want to end up being a yoke or a burden around an anointing because it doesn't discriminate. And it will break you off. It will remove you. So thank God for that. But then there's the positive side, the anointing. What do I mean by that? Well, I'm experiencing the anointing to stand up here and deliver this. An empowerment that I don't have to do this. The praise and worship folks, there's an anointing, an empowerment that enables them to do what they do. And it's not just natural when they do it. Under that anointing results are different. Fruit's different, Everything's different. Amen. But we don't understand that there are anointings available that we don't talk about, that we haven't thought about. I'm going to say this and then I'll qualify it. God told me, he said, for many in the body of Christ. Most of them the laity, not the fivefold the laity. For many of them, the strongest individual anointing they will ever experience will not be experienced on Sunday, but on Monday when they open the office, when they step into that place of function under that anointing to prosper. And there are many that have an anointing on them I do not have. And pastors need. Pastors need their churches, their people moving in the anointing on their life to prosper. What does Deuteronomy 8:18 says? It says, beware, you know, do not say remember. You shall remember the Lord your God. For it's he that gives you the power to get by. No, he gives you the power to get wealth. Not get by, get wealth. Now, you need to read that right, because I read that wrong. I read that and meant, okay, God's given me the power to receive wealth. That's not what that says. The word get in the Hebrew means to produce. To produce. It's so much better to be able to produce than to just receive. I can receive once, but if I can't produce it and I lose this or I spend this, I gotta receive again. And oh yeah, we can receive. Amen. I received, thank God. Amen. But God gives his people. We have a covenant right to experience the power to produce a whole lot more than what you need. Are you with me? We're going to close right here in Exodus 35. Amen. You see, the Bible says in Revelation 1:6 that God has made us both kings, priests. We get to function as the body of Christ in both flows. But listen, the anointing to function as a priest in the body of Christ is not the same as the anointing to function as a king. And by Old Testament type and shadow what was the kings had no part in the ministry of the word, right? Or the handling of sacrifices or the administration of worship. That's a priestly flow. And the priests were not allowed to cross over and get in the king's job. Well, what was the king's anointing was to fight battles, take ground, and they govern. Under the king's realm is everything related to commerce, trade, prosperity. The economy of the nation was not under the priest. It was under the king. And that's why as a pastor, if my vision's going to get funded, I'm both a king and a priest. We all are. But we need to. We can be more one than the other in our place of function in the body. And I'm definitely more called to the priestly side, the ministry side of things. As a five fold minister, I can't go out there and just think nothing about anything except making money and producing finances. But one, the king got spoiled. When they received trade, there was a command of God and a king that loved God took of the spoil and they brought the tithe and they brought the offerings to the priests to fund. Are you getting this right? To fund the work of the priesthood. And we've not taught our kings how to be kings or that they should be kings. There's an anointing to go out there on Monday and not just work, but be anointed. Amen. Alright, we're closing right here. Whoo. Praise God. Exodus 30:5. So you remember God had commanded the children of Israel and Moses to build a tabernacle tent of meeting. You got all that right. And so they were receiving offerings. Verse 29 says, Everybody brought man, they brought this massive offering. And let's pick up reading. In verse 30 it says, and Moses said unto the children of Israel, see, the Lord is called, look at this. Called by name. We don't talk about them, but God knew who they were. God called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. And he hath what filled him with the spirit of God? Could you say he anointed him? He anointed him in wisdom, in understanding and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to devise curious works, to work in gold, in silver and in brass, in the cutting of stones, to see them, the carving of wood, to make any, any manner of cunning, that means beautiful artistry, type work. And he had set God had put in his heart that he may teach. He gave him the ability to reproduce this gifting and anointing in other people. So he was not working by himself to do what God was telling them to do. Amen. And he had this. Well, it's like brother Stephen said, it's not an American name. So what? A holy ab. Don't name your kid a holy Ab. And then look at what it says them. Hath he God filled with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of work, of the engraver, of the cunning workman, of the embroiderer in blue, so forth and so on. Verse 36:1 Then wrought, worked bezaleel and Aholiab and every wise hearted man in whom the Lord put wisdom and understanding to know how to work. You know these were Egyptian slaves. They weren't in trade schools. They didn't go to art class. No one taught them how to weld. And God, you know, think about what you know about the Ark of the Covenant, the cherubim, everything laced with gold, everything custom made. There was no Amazon back then. The tapestry, the woodwork, the metal work. And they didn't know how to do any of it. They didn't know how to do any of it, y'.
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I want to tag on a little bit of something to have a watchful eye about. Because if you're around a man of God who's increasing, the devil wants you to question that. He'll work on you. A church increasing, a minister increasing, a pastor increasing. I'm going to read out of Matthew 17, he referred to the passage, but I'm going to take a little bit different direction. Matthew 17:24. Matthew 17:24. And it says, and when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter. Who's Peter? Someone assisting the man. And said, doth not your master pay tribute? Why didn't they go to Jesus and ask him? Because the devil's wanting to plant a question of financial integrity into those around the man of God. You better guard yourself because you can believe in prosperity. And the devil let you believe that. But he'll get you questioning someone else's integrity toward it. Amen. Questioning their motive. How many people have left the company they're supposed to be in because they believe the devil's seed of integrity or lack of integrity that they sowed? And I have found this out. What people accuse you of is what they think. It's really what they're doing. That's their mentality. And they'll accuse you with theirs. So when people accuse you of something, I go, I know now how you think. So the devil's using this setting to plant. To try to plant in Peter a question about the integrity of Jesus toward the financial arena. Why? Why didn't he go to Jesus if he had this big question? He didn't. He went to those around him. Doth not your master pay tribute? And I appreciate Peter's answer. He said, yes, he doesn't know. He's not over the money bag. But he answered in the affirmative. Yes, but listen, after that. Yes. And when he was coming to the house, Jesus prevented him saying, what thinkest thou, Simon? He's thinking about it. He's thinking about it. Well, I defended him, but I said, yes, but I don't know that. I know that. But I love Jesus. Caught that. There's a seed that was planted in you and it's questioning me. And you're thinking about it. How do you let the devil in? Think about the wrong thing. Think about what he suggested. Think about it. Yeah. He said, what thinkest thou, Simon? What are you thinking about? Of whom do the kings of the earth take customer tribute? Of their own children or of strangers? And Peter saith unto him, of strangers. And Jesus said, then the children are free. In other words, I don't know this, and you're thinking if I have integrity or not about something I don't owe. But notwithstanding, now he's letting his integrity answer this for Peter, lest we should offend them. In other words, I'm going to do what I don't owe because my integrity is above what was suggested to you. So my integrity gets me paying what I don't owe. Let me tell you what. When you're prosperous thinking, you will pay what you don't owe to keep peace and to disarm. To disarm the accusations. Because prosperity won't be legalistic. Well, I don't owe it. I'm not paying it. That's poverty. If it can buy you peace, pay what you don't owe. I've done it time and time again. I've done it time and time again. Money. I didn't know why. Because it was more important that people's accusations be disarmed than me holding on to my money because I don't owe it. You got to think right, Amen. And when people say, it's not about money, I would do it. They're announcing, I'm having a problem about the money. If you constantly say it's not about the money, it is about the money. Praise the Lord, he said, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea. I was telling Pastor Debbie this. He sent a fisherman to the sea. If it would have been a disciple who had a different profession, he wouldn't have sent him to the sea. He would have sent him to something he was used to working with. He was used to working with this. So Peter would have known, this is a miracle. You just sent the tax collector down and get a fish and there's money. He might not have known the great miracle of that. He might have thought, well, he's just a bottom feeder. He's cleaning up everything on the bottom. But a fisherman would have known. I don't normally take money out of the fish's mouth. So he said, go thou to the sea and cast a hook and take up the fish that first cometh up. And when thou has opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money. Take and give unto them for me and for thee. See, my integrity is I'm going to pay what I don't owe, but I'm also going to pay for yours that you don't owe. I'm paying double for what I don't owe because I will not allow you to believe I'm distrustful. He did that for Peter. He did that to disarm that seed the devil tried to sow in Peter. So just know this. You better guard your thinking about Your man of God about your local church. Because the devil always gets you questioned. Where'd they get that money? I mean, I mean, why are they spending that much? None of your business. You say, well, they're accountable to me. No, shepherds aren't accountable sheep. They're accountable to the great shepherd. Amen. You just keep yourself right and God will keep you because the devil always wants you thinking that, that someone higher and over you in authority is accountable to you. No, no, they're accountable to God. And that's a, that's a greater fear than being accountable to the sheep, believe me. Amen. I love something. Dr. Bill Winston made this statement. He said Jesus had a money pouch. He had a treasury. He, when it came to tax time, even taxes, he didn't know, he didn't go to his own resources. He believed God for something beyond his own resources for taxes. And he said, every year he says, my tax money does not come out of my resources. It comes out of, I believe God extra for the tax money because I'm not, I don't want it coming out of my resources. God's already shown me he'll take care of the taxes. I don't have to dip into my own resources. Jesus didn't dip into his own resources. There, he had them. But he worked beyond his money pouch, beyond his own resources to pay taxes. So you can do that if you want. That doesn't mean you don't pay your taxes. Amen. So I'm not saying pay taxes you don't owe. You can if you want, but I'd rather put it in really good ground. But he's saying to protect my integrity, I'm going to show you I will pay what I don't owe and I won't complain about it. Amen. So it's real important what you allow yourself to think on about. Those who are being used by God or those who are being increased. Amen. God told me to give money I didn't owe to people I didn't owe it to. He said, because they're going to see the blessing of God on you so great and they're going to think that you withheld from them to get that. And he said, so you give them what that you don't owe them because then they can never accuse you from withholding their part. And that's what made you increase. Amen. Let no man say they made me rich. How you gonna do that? You're gonna have pay at times what you don't owe. That's what I'M talking about right thinking. I've seen people that are good givers, faithful givers, but they think wrong. They think wrong, and they struggle financially. They just keep struggling because they think wrong. They think wrong. Praise the Lord. I don't make any money, any decisions based on money. Amen. I make decisions based on the leading, based on how God's leading me. How is God leading me? How is God leading me? Amen. Well, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. So whenever Pastor Chris got up and started ministering, God said to me, you speak further to him, talking to me. So I'm just going to speak further to him. What? I don't know. But he said that. So, Father, we thank you. We thank you for the revelation. Let me say this. God told me a couple years ago, I was rehearsing and thinking about something when the angels paid off Ed's church building in Torrance, California, in the 70s, two angels showed up and paid it off. And I was thinking about this. That in that he only had $10,000. He needed $136,000, but he only had 10,000. So he took the 10,000 and he sowed it. And I'm saying this to myself, and I've said, because what he had was not enough. It must not have been his harvest. It had to be a seed. So you have to recognize what's harvest and what seed. And when I said that, God said, is what's in your castle account? Because I'm renovating Amy's castle right now. Is what's in your castle account enough? And I said, no. He said, then it must be seed. I go, yeah, it must be. So he told me how much to take out, which was a big chunk to take out and give to brother Copeland. So it was kcm. It wasn't him personally. I do give to Brother Copeland personally. Why? Because I'm hooked up to the man. I'm not just hooked up to organization. Without the man, the organization isn't needed. And so I want to make sure the man knows he's my supply. And the Bible says, God, that Abraham was rich. Abraham was very rich. It didn't say Abraham Ministries was very rich. Abraham the man. God wants the man rich. And out of that, the organization will be blessed because the man's rich. It's wrong for the organization to thrive financially and the man to struggle financially. That's so off the word. That's so off the word. So I always give to the man in the organization. But before I gave that offering, that's the biggest offering I'd ever given and I needed. But what I needed wasn't in my hand. And so I presented it to God before I presented it to Brother Copeland. And when I presented it to God, I was in my hotel room. And then God answered me back and said, now the anointing of increase, that's on Brother Copeland, now comes on you. Amen. So it matters that we obey, because God's trying to get us into more than we've had before. And to get us into more than we had before, we have to get around somebody who has an anointing greater in that arena so that God can join us to that. And their anointing pulls us up. Yeah, but while you were preaching, I said, God, what is it to him? Said his understanding is good, is great. His revelation is great. But now his life needs to see had the demonstration of that, because the manifestation needs to catch up with the revelation. And that's true for all of us. It's not a correction, it's an instruction for all of us, you know, because we can know something and preach it and not have it. But don't not preach it just because you don't have it. If you got the revelation, preach it because somebody will get it even if you don't. But he said the manifestation needs to catch up with the revelation. Isn't that good? I like that. I like that. But for that to happen more in the thinking, something corrected more in the thinking that it does belong to you. It does. It. It's got to. It's got to. The prosperity doesn't define you. In Christ defines you. And the prosperity needs to represent what defines you. And that is in Christ. In Christ. In Christ. It's all mine. In Christ, it's all mine. So he's going to show you things that thinking that needs to be dismantled of the past. You know what I'm talking about. We all have to do it. We all have. All have to. Why? Why? Why do we not sit with millions in our personal accounts? It's not a money issue. It's a thinking issue. The more we think right, the further he can manifest it. Amen. 3 John, verse 2. Beloved, I wish above all things, thou mayest prosper and be in health. Ah. Now here's the clincher. Even as your soul, even as your mind, your will, your emotions, your mind, your will and the emotions is the governing factor of all the level of prosperity and degree of health you walk in. It's all connected to how you think. It's all. It goes back to how you think? Because as a man thinketh in his heart. That's, that's, that's, that's his. That's his place. That's his lane right there. That's where he's at. So to go further, the thinking has to go further. The thinking has to go further. And can I tell you how to get the thinking further, get the giving further? The giving jerks you into some things. I mean, it puts a demand on you if you struggle with giving. If God says, give a certain amount and you go, ooh, there's a thinking problem. It's not a money thing. That. There, there you. There, you located it. There, you located it. That's why people so much of the time, they, you know, they attack. Brother Jesse, why do you need an airplane like that? Because brother Jesse for, I think, 18 years flew a Falcon 50. What we have. He loved it. He said it was his most favorite airplane. And he was. It's just him and sister Kathy, you know, they don't carry normally a team with them. And it's just the two of them. And there's that airplane seats 10 passengers. So it's sufficient in that. But then God told him, step up to the next one, to the. The 900 Falcon 900. Then he told. And that seats 14. And it's like twice as wide almost. And then he said, step up from that. And that's the 7X. That's what Brother Keith and Brother Jesse both have two people. People say, well, why they don't need that? Because it's not about what their body needs. It's about what their faith needs. Whenever they, Whenever it's easy now your faith needs something else. That's why God tells people to get things they don't need because they're. Schedule may not need it, the number of passengers may not need it, but their faith needs it. And if their faith needs something way up there, you can't on a lower level say, why do they need that? Because your faith isn't even up there needing that yet, because you're struggling at the lower level. So when you struggle, that goes to show you better address that because that's your stop in place. That's your stop in place. Amen. So God said to me several years ago, when I bought Amy's castle, I thought, well, I'll just live in it. So I'll sell the other house. It's only 15 minutes. My previous home, it's only 15 minutes apart from these two houses. Why do I need two houses 15 minutes apart? I Don't need it. And so I put it on the market, and God began dealing with me. He said, you have to get rid of the mentality that you think you have to sell something to buy something. So now I got four homes. I have four homes. Two of them paid off. Amen. The other two are worth so much more than what I owe. But we're getting that paid off. Those paid off. But what I'm saying is, see, mentality. Why do you need that? Why do you need that? Well, see, don't put your limitations on your local church. Don't put your limitations on a man of God. Don't put your limitations on a man who has more. Why does he need that? Well, see, that's why your at where you're at. Because you need to learn not to touch what's not your business. You don't know what a person's faith needs. You don't know why God told them that. None of your business. None of your. You'll never be spiritual till you realize another man's business is not yours. Peter should have said yes and left it at that, but he didn't. He kept thinking about it. Why does it. Well, does he? I don't know. I'm not over the money. Maybe. See, his thinking got him in trouble. Jesus corrected him. What thinkest thou? He said, I know what you thinking. Yeah. So you have to. It's all in the thinking. It's all in the thinking. So, Father, we thank you that the manifestations equal the revelations. The manifestations equal the revelations. We thank. Thank you for it. Yeah. Yeah. Because God doesn't just want it preached, he wants it demonstrated. Yeah. And you are a prime candidate for that because the revelation's in place. But now we all come up. See, we can know some things in our spirit, but our mind go on tilt. Dad Hagen made this statement. What's the sign of a spiritual giant, One whose heart and mind agreeing. Your heart can agree with something in your mind. Struggling with it. Growth stops right there. You got to deal with that. You got to deal with that. You got to deal with that. Amen. It's all right to say I'm a demonstration of the richest man on the block or the richest man in my community. I'm a demonstration of that. It's okay. And can I say this? He's right about the kingly and priestly roles. Because the apostles said, we can't leave the word of God and prayer to serve tables. But in the body of Christ, a minister's role is priestly. Yes, I understand that. But in your own life, it's both kings and priests. Don't ever dismiss yourself. In your personal life, I'm a king. I can have commerce. I can have income of avenues. And I don't have to be out working them. God can give me one divine idea and I hire a whole slew of people because I can be king as well as I can be priest in my life. Now, I can't go out and be king and be a businessman on a broad scale and neglect priestly. But in my own life, I'm both. I'm both. Amen. That means I'm not dismissed from that kingly authority and that kingly realm and that domain. And Brother Jesse is a demonstration of that. My gosh, how much he gets talked against and talked about because he's got so much. But because he's not just a priest in his own life, he's a king in his own life. He said, I sowed 10 million of my own dollars into the ministry. You got to be a king to do that. A priest can't do that, but a king can do that. I'm the biggest giver in my ministry. I don't get. I'm not the biggest giver because I'm priest. I'm biggest giver because I'm being a king. Understand that I'm the first to give in a project. Why? Not because I'm a priest, not because I'm a minister, because I'm a king. So in your personal life, never dismiss yourself from being king. I'm talking to ministers. You're priest and king. Amen. Hallelujah. And every single believer, you're a priest and king. You better tend your spiritual life and your kingly life. Amen. And what he's talking about in the body of Christ, that kingly role will show up more to those who are to be funding the gospel. Because you're not. You're publicly. You're not. Your priestly life isn't. Is public, maybe. But in your own household and in your own family, in your own spiritual life, you're both. You're both. Amen. Never dismiss yourself from being both. Amen. Don't diminish one for the other. We need the skill. And I'm so glad he pointed out the difference. There's anoint, different anointing on those. We need to be skillful in every realm. Every realm, every realm, every realm. Amen. Hallelujah. How many of you know a king can have a spiritual life? Right. It empowers them to be a better king and a priest should not be broke. They need both. One is maybe more public than the other, but you need the flow of both. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defresheministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Dufresne Ministries Podcast – June 14, 2025
This episode centers on practical and spiritual principles of financial prosperity from a biblical perspective. Guest minister Chris Cody explores the “anointing to prosper,” teaching that financial blessing and abundance are God’s will for every believer. The conversation moves beyond mere “hearing of the Word” to the necessity of right thinking, active faith, and generous giving in order to walk in God’s blessing. Pastor Nancy Dufresne adds vital wisdom on financial integrity and the importance of a right mindset regarding money and prosperity in church life.
Key Segment: [00:07-07:00]
“Oh, thank God. Thank God for His goodness and what we’ve seen, the good things God does for others, God will do for us.” ([03:30] - Chris Cody)
Key Segment: [07:05-15:00]
“How many people are not serving God today because of money? How many people are out of the will of God today because of money?” ([10:40] - Chris Cody)
Key Segment: [15:01–38:40]
“If people will sit under that message with their hearts wide open and their faith active to receive, they will partake of that anointing and it will work, it will flow.” ([23:45])
Key Segment: [38:40–46:00]
Key Segment: [46:01–53:00]
“Everybody believes in prosperity … but then they want to come into church and get religious.” ([48:20])
“If there’s a hell, this guy is going there.” ([50:30]) — recalling a sarcastic online comment.
Key Segment: [53:01–61:30]
“My cup runneth over ... Are you ready for some running over?” ([56:30])
Key Segment: [61:31–67:00]
“It’s not a blessing. Poverty is a destructive force. You’re vulnerable.” ([63:00])
Key Segment: [67:01–71:45]
“But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God: for it is He who gives you power to get wealth...”
“The anointing to function as a priest … is not the same as the anointing to function as a king.” ([69:55])
Key Segment: [71:46–75:00]
“God just said, no problem. Bam to him. Bam to him. Bam to him ... Can you imagine how he sat back and marveled at the work of his unskilled slave hands under that anointing?” ([71:44])
Key Segment: [74:22–88:30]
Key Segment: [88:31–102:00]
“To go further, the thinking has to go further. And can I tell you how to get the thinking further, get the giving further?” ([92:10])
Key Segment: [102:01–109:30]
Key Segment: [109:31–115:00]
“Never dismiss yourself from being both ... Don’t diminish one for the other. We need the skill ... in every realm.” ([112:15])
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