Money Matters | Chris Cody | Campmeeting 2025 | Thursday AM

Dufresne Ministries Podcast – June 14, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on practical and spiritual principles of financial prosperity from a biblical perspective. Guest minister Chris Cody explores the “anointing to prosper,” teaching that financial blessing and abundance are God’s will for every believer. The conversation moves beyond mere “hearing of the Word” to the necessity of right thinking, active faith, and generous giving in order to walk in God’s blessing. Pastor Nancy Dufresne adds vital wisdom on financial integrity and the importance of a right mindset regarding money and prosperity in church life.

1. The Goodness of God and Renewing the Mind

Key Segment: [00:07-07:00]

• Chris Cody opens by reflecting on Psalm 23 and the continual pursuit of God’s goodness and mercy.
• Emphasizes the importance of believing for God’s goodness personally—not just for others.
• Reminds listeners that God’s blessings are not performance-based:

  “Oh, thank God. Thank God for His goodness and what we’ve seen, the good things God does for others, God will do for us.” ([03:30] - Chris Cody)

2. Introduction to “Money Matters” and Its Biblical Foundation

Key Segment: [07:05-15:00]

• Cody introduces his message: “Money Matters,” a play on words meaning both the fact that finances are important (“your money matters”), and that there are many “matters” (issues) pertaining to money.
• Notes that the Bible gives more space to finances than many other important topics combined.
• Points out money is often a tripping point in life, keeping many from God’s best.
• Notable Quote:

  “How many people are not serving God today because of money? How many people are out of the will of God today because of money?” ([10:40] - Chris Cody)

3. The Anointing to Prosper & Breaking the Yoke of Lack

Key Segment: [15:01–38:40]

• Shares 2017 prophecy received about an “anointing to prosper,” distinct but related to “the blessing.”
  • “For every yoke and every burden has an anointing ... the yoke and burden of lack … there is an anointing to destroy that yoke.” ([19:40])
  • The solution to lack is not merely more money, but “filling up on the gospel.”
• Parallels the “anointing to prosper” with the “healing anointing,” stating:

  “If people will sit under that message with their hearts wide open and their faith active to receive, they will partake of that anointing and it will work, it will flow.” ([23:45])

• The blessing includes not just abundance, but: “the ability to enjoy the blessings ... and to be a blessing” ([28:45]).
• Cody emphasizes tangible examples:
  • Testimonies of Bible students who tithed and prospered.
  • “There’s an anointing to prosper. I said, there’s an anointing.” ([36:30])

4. Real-Life Examples of Supernatural Prosperity

Key Segment: [38:40–46:00]

• Shares stories:
  • Joe Canada’s business exceeding $100,000 in revenue, $40,000 in the last four weeks.
  • Other individuals and churches experiencing financial miracles after embracing the message.
• Emphasizes God gets the glory, not the preacher.

5. Dealing with Criticism: The “Prosperity Gospel” Misconception

Key Segment: [46:01–53:00]

• Addresses common criticisms of prosperity teaching:

  “Everybody believes in prosperity … but then they want to come into church and get religious.” ([48:20])

• Explains why “prosperity gospel” has become a derogatory term, yet points out everyone seeks increase.
• Cody’s anecdote about social media criticism following his teaching going “mini viral.”

  “If there’s a hell, this guy is going there.” ([50:30]) — recalling a sarcastic online comment.

6. The Scriptural Priority & Pattern for Prosperity

Key Segment: [53:01–61:30]

• Shows prosperity is a scriptural priority:
  • 3 John 2: “Beloved, I pray above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health...”
  • The biblical language indicates a continuous, unending flow of prosperity.
  • First miracle of Jesus: water into wine—a provision miracle.
  • Psalm 23 and Luke 6:38—abundance is God’s pattern:

    “My cup runneth over ... Are you ready for some running over?” ([56:30])

7. Poverty vs. Wealth: A Biblical Contrast

Key Segment: [61:31–67:00]

• Proverbs 10:15: “The rich man's wealth is his strong city … but the destruction of the poor is their poverty.”
• Ecclesiastes 7:12, Psalm 12:5—money is a defense; poverty is a vulnerability.

  “It’s not a blessing. Poverty is a destructive force. You’re vulnerable.” ([63:00])

8. The Kingly & Priestly Anointings

Key Segment: [67:01–71:45]

• Explains two sides to the anointing:
  • Negative: destroys yokes (e.g., of debt or lack).
  • Positive: empowers and equips (e.g., for business, creative ideas).
• Cites Deuteronomy 8:18:

  “But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God: for it is He who gives you power to get wealth...”

  • “Get” in the Hebrew means to produce, not just to receive.
• Compares priest and king roles:

  “The anointing to function as a priest … is not the same as the anointing to function as a king.” ([69:55])

  • Kingly anointing involves commerce and funding God’s vision.

9. Practical Outworking of the Anointing (Bezalel & Aholiab)

Key Segment: [71:46–75:00]

• Exodus 35–36: God anointed Bezalel and Aholiab—once slaves in Egypt—to produce beautiful work for the Tabernacle, though they had no prior training.
• The point: God can supernaturally equip anyone with skill and finances to fulfill divine assignments.

  “God just said, no problem. Bam to him. Bam to him. Bam to him ... Can you imagine how he sat back and marveled at the work of his unskilled slave hands under that anointing?” ([71:44])

10. Money & Integrity: Watch Your Thinking (Pastor Nancy)

Key Segment: [74:22–88:30]

• Pastor Nancy emphasizes the importance of maintaining right thoughts about others’ increase, particularly those in spiritual leadership.
• Matthew 17:24-27 — when the temple tax collectors questioned Peter about Jesus paying tribute:
  • The enemy often tries to sow suspicion about a leader’s financial integrity.
  • Jesus not only demonstrated His integrity (by paying tax He didn’t owe), but also paid for Peter as well ([78:00]).
  • “If it can buy you peace, pay what you don’t owe … prosperity won’t be legalistic … If you constantly say it’s not about the money, it is about the money.” ([80:10])
• Importance of being generous, obeying generosity prompts, and not subjecting leaders to suspicions or accountability outside their divine role.

11. Mindset Shift: Think and Act for Increase

Key Segment: [88:31–102:00]

• Prosperity is governed by how you think (soul prosperity, 3 John 2).

  “To go further, the thinking has to go further. And can I tell you how to get the thinking further, get the giving further?” ([92:10])

• Giving challenges and stretches thinking—what you struggle to give reveals thinking limitations.
• Personal story: God instructed Pastor Nancy to give what she had saved for renovations, saying, “If what you have isn’t enough, it must be seed.” ([94:00])
• The anointing of increase from a higher financial anointing comes through connection with such ministries and personal obedience.

12. Demonstration of Revelation

Key Segment: [102:01–109:30]

• The need for the manifestation of prosperity to match the revelation of it.
• Correction and encouragement: It’s not enough to have understanding; demonstration must follow.
• “Why do we not sit with millions in our personal accounts? It’s not a money issue. It’s a thinking issue. The more we think right, the further he can manifest it.” ([99:55])
• When heart and mind agree, prosperity flows (“spiritual giant” = agreement between spirit and mind).

13. Never Dismiss Yourself from Prosperity

Key Segment: [109:31–115:00]

• Every believer is both a “priest” (spiritual functions) and a “king” (material/commerce functions).
• Ministers: Don’t dismiss yourself from kingly anointing in your personal lives.

  “Never dismiss yourself from being both ... Don’t diminish one for the other. We need the skill ... in every realm.” ([112:15])

• Cites examples of Jesse Duplantis thriving in business and funding the Gospel as a king.

Notable Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “The anointing to prosper is just as real as the healing anointing … You ought to just be plain about it: you need more money.” ([17:40] - Chris Cody)
• “God is not a deadbeat dad.” ([20:30] - Chris Cody)
• “Everybody believes in prosperity … but then they want to come into church and get religious.” ([48:20] - Chris Cody)
• “The blessing of the Lord makes rich, and to it He adds no sorrow.” ([23:10] - recounting Proverbs 10:22)
• “If people will sit under that message with their hearts wide open and their faith active to receive, they will partake of that anointing and it will work, it will flow.” ([23:45] - Chris Cody)
• “When you struggle [with giving], that goes to show you better address that because that’s your stop in place.” ([98:00] - Pastor Nancy)
• “You’ll never be spiritual till you realize another man’s business is not yours.” ([102:00] - Pastor Nancy)
• “Manifestations [should] equal the revelations.” ([106:55] - Pastor Nancy)
• “Never dismiss yourself from being both [king and priest]. … In your own life, it’s both. Amen.” ([112:15] - Pastor Nancy)

Key Timestamps

• [00:07] – Opening: God’s goodness and mercy in personal life
• [07:05] – Message title/explanation: Why “Money Matters”
• [19:40] – Prophecy: “Anointing to prosper” defined
• [23:45] – How to receive: posture of hearing/receiving
• [28:45] – Enjoy and become a blessing
• [38:40] – Testimonies of prosperity
• [46:01] – On “prosperity gospel” criticism
• [53:01] – Prosperity as God’s priority (3 John 2; Psalm 23)
• [61:31] – Poverty vs. wealth in scripture
• [67:01] – Priestly & kingly anointings distinguished
• [71:46] – Bezalel & Aholiab: God’s supernatural equipping
• [74:22] – Pastor Nancy: Watch your thoughts on others’ increase
• [88:31] – Mindset shift required for true prosperity
• [102:01] – Demonstration must match revelation
• [109:31] – Believers’ dual role as priest and king

Takeaways for Listeners

• God intends financial prosperity for His children.
• The “anointing to prosper” is activated by faith, right thinking, generous giving, and a receptive spirit.
• Don’t limit yourself (or others) by small-thinking or religious taboos about money.
• Guard your heart from suspicion towards those who increase, especially ministers; keep your mind right.
• The supernatural outworking of God’s provision often depends on how you think and whether you act boldly in generosity.
• Both spiritual and practical aspects are needed: be a king and a priest in your own life.
• Prosperity is for demonstration, not just declaration—seek the manifestation that aligns with revelation.

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