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Honoring Faith's Legacy | Nancy Dufresne | Campmeeting 2025 | Friday PM
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Nancy Dufresne
Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Jesus, we glorify you. We glorify you. We magnify you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And we allow you to be you in us, through us and for us. Hallelujah. And everybody said, just go ahead and be seated. Thank you, singers. Y' all can be seated. I won't keep you long. But I want to go back to something that Pastor Craig referred to that after Ed went home to be with the Lord, about just weeks later, God said to me, he said, under your leadership, it will be years as years of Solomon, years of peace, prosperity, and wisdom. And he said, but Solomon could not have had those years if David hadn't fought the hard battles. And he said, your husband fought the hard battles so that you could have years of wisdom, peace, and prosperity. So don't ever think and congratulate ourselves for where we're at, because we're there. Because somebody else heard from God, moved with God.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
Congregation members, you are only receiving because your pastor heard from God, moved with God, and was willing to put their name and themselves on the line to fulfill what God said. So none of us arrive anywhere alone, and we have to honor and respect that. We are divinely connected and joined together, and we honor that which has gone before us. You know, Jesus did not cast aside what John the Baptist began. He built off of it. John the Baptist, his message was this. The kingdom of God is at hand. Repent and be baptized. The kingdom of God's at hand. Do you know that it says that when Jesus, after John the Baptist was killed, that it says Jesus began preaching and saying, the kingdom of God's at hand.
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Congregation Member
That's right. That's right.
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Nancy Dufresne
He picked up where he left off because John the Baptist made it clear where Jesus was to start off. We don't go back and throw out something and say, well, we're going further. No, you're not going further without building on what somebody else already did.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
And to dishonor what's happened in the previous, to say, you got something better, that's carnality. Amen. It's carnality. It's carnal thinking. But I want us to say something about. I want you to know what it looks like for somebody else to fight the battles. You know, whenever Grant at the first of this year, God told us it was time for him to be pastor. I said, good for you. You Start your pastorate with an 18 to 20 million dollars property paid for. Right. A staff that's trained.
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Congregation Member
Yes, ma'. Am.
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Nancy Dufresne
You get your paycheck every payday.
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Congregation Member
Yes, ma'. Am.
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Nancy Dufresne
You got a house, you got a car. You don't have a wife yet, but you got other stuff. I said, good for you. There is no animosity at all. But don't you ever forget.
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Congregation Member
Yes, yes. Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
People you never even remember helped put this building here, right?
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Congregation Member
Yes, ma'. Am.
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Nancy Dufresne
Don't ever arrive somewhere and go, look where I got. No, look where somebody helped. And know this. I don't care what advancement you make spiritually. There was a pastor, there was a man of God, somebody praying, getting revelation. And dad Hagin made the same. He said, some revelations nearly cost me my life. He said, that means I went down to death's door before I got that revelation. Amen. And so we need to honor what went before. And we would have never had faith for airplanes if my husband had not had faith for airplanes first.
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Congregation Member
Yes, ma', am. That's right. That's right.
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Nancy Dufresne
You know, we would not even have the airplane we have if it weren't for Kenneth Copeland, who took on that faith territory to take the hit of people who thought that was extreme and inappropriate for preachers. Brother Copeland has paid the price and didn't care. He gladly did it. But I'm just saying we have an airplane today because of the grace that's on another man.
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Congregation Member
That's right. Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
Amen. And I cannot act like, oh, it was our faith that did. No, we had a role in receiving, but somebody else did the hard work of revelation and receiving it and walking in it and taking the opposition that comes against revelation. Amen. But I'm reminded that my husband, he was 25 years old, sitting on a bar stool, going to hell, and he was becoming an alcoholic. His parents were alcoholics. He was raised in a home of mental illness and alcoholism. And his life was going the same way, but on the inside, he was crying out for help. I recognize that my life is going the same direction as my parents, and I see what that looks like. And he was crying out for help, but didn't know that where to turn or where to go for help. And there was a voice as he sat on the stool in a bar, and a voice spoke. He heard it audibly and said, you're going to go all over the world and preach the gospel. He had no idea what that meant. Being raised Catholic, he did not know what that meant. But a Co worker had been inviting him to church. And he went that next Sunday to church and he heard the salvation message for the first time. It was born again. And he went back after he was born again in that Sunday morning service. He went back that night with his big white Catholic Bible with the picture of Mother Mary on the front. And he went to church carrying that coffee table sized Bible because they told him, bring your Bible. So he did. And he went up to the pastor after the service and said, For 25 years I've been living for the devil. But he said, but now that I belong to Jesus, is there something I can do for Jesus? And he said, we don't have anyone to clean the toilets. And Ed said, that's my job. Because nothing is beneath honor.
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Congregation Member
Praise God.
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Nancy Dufresne
When you honor that you're even born again and you honor that you are part of the family of God, there is nothing that is menial in your estimation. It's not the job, it's how you do the job. Do you do it honorably? Do you do it to the glory of God? I remember that there was one woman she talked about. She was the mother of the pastor. She was a praying woman. And she said she was down at the church one day, she had been praying. She said, I had been in the prayer room for several hours. She said, I got up to go to the restroom. And she said, I walked into the restroom and the glory of God was in the restroom. It wasn't in the prayer room. Wow. And she said, God, I've been praying for hours. How come there's greater glory in here than where I've been praying? And he said, because Mary was just in here cleaning this, worshiping me. And she was cleaning it to my glory. It's not what you do, it's how you do it. And so many people think something's beneath them.
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Congregation Member
Come on.
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Nancy Dufresne
That's an unrenewed mind.
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Congregation Member
Yes, ma'. Am.
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Nancy Dufresne
Because David said, I'd rather be a door greeter, a doorkeeper in the house of the Lord, than to dwell in the tents of the wicked. He was saying, as a king, nothing's beneath me when it comes to God and comes to his house. Nothing is beneath me. And this is what people have to understand because honor has diminished with each generation. It has gone down more and more and more and more. And I remember watching, they were doing a documentary on a. On a. Oh, how do you call it? It's not a palace, but just a castle there in England. And they had a butler still. And this couple lived in this massive castle, just the two of them, and they brought in a crew, a TV crew, and they're interviewing and they're following around the butler in that castle. And he is setting everything up as though there was a big event going. And it was just the dinner for the two of the owners of the people. And he was laying out, he had his ruler and he was measuring where the plates go, how far from the edge and the fork and the knife and the spoon and the glass, and measuring their proximity to each other. And the man who was interviewing for this documentary was following with the camera and said this to him. He said, there's just the two of them and you are setting it up as though it's a big event for many. He said, why are you going to such great detail for just the two? And I love the answer. He said, because I've noticed that once a standard disappears, it never returns.
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Congregation Member
Come on, come on. Wow.
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Nancy Dufresne
Once a standard disappears, it never returns. Well, when honor disappears, it better not leave the church.
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Congregation Member
Amen. Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
And we say it does return. We teach it, we demand it, we expect it.
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Congregation Member
Yes, ma'.
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Nancy Dufresne
Am. Because you can't have miracles without it.
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Congregation Member
That's right.
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Nancy Dufresne
You can't have the flow of the supernatural without it. Do you know that Ed Dufresne, when he was saved as a 25 year old, knew something about honor? Because when the pastor said, we don't have anyone to clean the toilets, I'll do it, that's a statement of honor. Because there's a lot of people who won't do what they think is beneath them. Right? Amen. But Ed used to say this faith will do whatever it takes.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
And I can't tell you, in pastoring, there were times that I would have somebody come in and they would say, pastor Nancy, I don't have a job. I'm looking for a job. I said, where have you looked? And they said, well, you know, I'm educated. I have a degree in this. And I put my application in. And I said, well, that's fine. But they said, we've had no response. And I said, well, I was driving by a fast food place down here and they had help wanted in the window. Well, Pastor Nancy, I'm educated. Yeah, but you also are broke.
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Congregation Member
And.
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Nancy Dufresne
You got no job. Will I draw unemployment? Oh, so that's honorable, to sit at home, do nothing? God doesn't bless no action. God blesses movement. God feels movement. He doesn't feel somebody not working. So it would be more honorable. For you to not live off government and go when you're able to work just because you think it's beneath you. Show God. Show God something. It's no mistake that God told Elijah, go anoint Elisha to be prophet in thy room. And when he showed up, he was handling 12 yoke of oxen.
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Congregation Member
Come on.
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Nancy Dufresne
He wasn't sitting at home. He was out in the field laboring hard. Why? Because someone who labors well, they're ready to be advanced. 12 yoke of oxen? What is that, 24? You ever seen an ox?
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Congregation Member
Come on.
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Nancy Dufresne
They're bigger than a cow baby. And he's handling. He's a man of labor, putting his hand to something. And so Ed said to the pastor, what can I do? He said, we don't have anyone clean the toilets. I'll do that. And he did it. And then he got to not only clean the toilets, he got to clean the whole church. And he thought, that is not a menial task. It's not beneath me. It's an honor.
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Congregation Member
That's right.
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Nancy Dufresne
Yes. Because he remembered the direction his life was going before he got to clean toilets in the church.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
You either clean toilets in the church or you live like a toilet before you're born again.
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Congregation Member
Come on.
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Nancy Dufresne
Your life is full of debris that destroying everything around your life. I tell you, you have to think right. I said you have to think right. And I can't tell you how many times there have. As a pastor, I saw people that couldn't be advanced just because they thought wrong. They thought wrong. They didn't see the honor of getting to serve somewhere in the local church. They wanted to come in at the end of praise and worship, slip in and then leave before because they didn't want to feel like they had any obligation. You can put all the money in the bucket you want, but there's a hard attitude that's not right and that it's not just money. God blesses the whole of. Man has to move with God. And sometimes people want giving to replace a right heart. It won't do it. Well, praise the Lord. So Ed advanced from cleaning toilets. He still kept cleaning them, but he added to it. Yes. And he ended up cleaning the church. He said he was one day cleaning the pulpit. And he said he was cleaning the pulpit. And he heard a voice come out of the pulpit and said, one day you will stand behind this holy desk and deliver my word. It was while he was working, people. It was while he was working, not just while he was confessing nothing Wrong with confessing, but confessing without action is just delusional. And so it was while he was putting his hand to something, and then he talks about the honor that he was invited to be a door greeter. I guarantee you, Ed would have greeted everyone with great enthusiasm. Your hand would have been shook. Your arm would have felt the motion when Ed grabbed it, because he was all in. When I see David. David over here, David Ellis, I can't help but see Ed, too, because all in, all in, all in. And he was a door greeter. And then he was promoted to deacon. And then God promoted him. I don't know that he thought at the time it looked like a promotion. He said, I want you to build the church building for the pastor. The pastor said, God wants us to build a building. So God spoke to Ed at home and said, you're to be the foreman of the job, and you are to help build this building. So Ed went to the pastor and said, God spoke this to me. The pastor said, God told me the same thing. And Ed said, well, this is how much, you know, I need to make for income. And the pastor said, I'm sorry, we don't have any money to pay you. So Ed went home and he said, God, they can't pay me. And God didn't answer. He said, I said, build the building. He didn't answer him about the money. He didn't answer him about the money. If God doesn't talk to you about the money, it's all. Evidently he already has a problem plans. And Ed said this. He said, God, I will do it as long as my family's provided for. I will not let my family do without. I expect you to take care of my family. And so he would build that building. And not only that, whenever he would need money, he says, whenever there was he was living, he would go up into Mammoth, where, you know, up in the mountains. He said he'd go up there every time there was a snowstorm. Because he said, when I'd go up there, you always found people didn't know how to drive in the snow, and they were in the ditch. And so he says, I showed up with chains. And he says, I'd go up and down the roads trying to find people in ditches and selling my chains and put them on for them because they didn't know what to do. They were over their heads. And Ed knew how to do it. What is this? Faith will do whatever it takes. He did not think something beneath him. He was endeavoring to. To do Everything he could to fulfill what God told him to do, build that building. And he looked for any place he could to get money to make up for what the church wasn't paying him. What's this mean? Is that there are people who fought hard battles they didn't know when they were. He was learning faith. He didn't know some of the things we'd been taught. He had never heard the word of faith message at that point. And God said, build a building with no paycheck. Come on, that's a battle on the mind, bro. That's a battle on the mind. That's what I'm talking about, is that there are people who fought the hard battles. So we can sit in a paid for building today so that you can see what it looks like. But I don't want you ignorant of the process of faith. That's exactly right. Amen. And the process of obedience. Because people, the devil will push on young ministers and say, well, you're not, you must not be doing it right because you're not in a paid for building. No, neither were we. But we didn't stay there. We advanced. First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. If all you want is the full corn in the ear mentality, you don't appreciate the blade, you have to appreciate when the blade shows up. Amen. And so my husband, he at one point, after working at the church building that building, and they didn't have any money and he needed food for his family and he went behind Safeway and went through the garbage. There are people who say, I wouldn't do that. Well, it depends on how much you love God. Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Because faith will do whatever it takes. Well, that's beneath me. Well, it's not beneath faith. No, it's not. It's not beneath obedience. I'm not saying we have to eat out of garbage cans, but I'm just saying this is that some of us are not eating out of garbage can because of those who did eat out of them. To learn this and then teach it to us so that we wouldn't have to go back behind the stores. Amen. And so anyway, so he was willing to do that because to faith, nothing's beneath faith.
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Congregation Member
That's right. Yes, ma'. Am.
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Nancy Dufresne
Nothing's beneath it. I'll do whatever I have to.
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Congregation Member
That's right.
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Nancy Dufresne
And he did that. And then a man came out one day when he was gathering food, going through the trash bin there behind the store and said, hey, what are you doing? And Ed turned around and he said, well, I thought that because it was thrown out, it was available to take. And Ed told him, he said, well, why are you back here? And he told him why? And so he said, come back at 7:00 tonight. And he went back with his pickup, went back there, and that man had put out pallets of food and kept putting them out every day, pallets of food. And Ed not only had enough food to fill his house, he went around and fed the other people in the congregation. Because when you obey God, it won't just feed your life. God never just has you in mind with your obedience.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
He has a spirit spillover of what your obedience is not just going to bring for your life, but for someone else's life. And so he had passed the food test, and then his mortgage fell behind. And so he ended up going one day down to the carpenter's union to have a carpenter job assigned to him. And they handed him a job assignment. And as he was walking out of that carpenter's union building, God said to him, what are you doing down here? And he says, I'm getting a job. And God said, you have a job? And he said, yeah, and I told you that if you don't take care of my family, I'm going out and I'm getting a job. And God didn't answer him, but he started crying and threw that job assignment down with the piece of paper down and left the building and went back to the building. And it was at that day that a man showed up and said, said, he says, I know your schedule is full. You're working all day building this building. But he said, I work for a man who has his own company and we clean businesses at night. We don't have enough staff. Would you consider coming and helping us? We are behind. We need more employees. And Ed said, I'd love to do it. So he worked all day building the building and then spent the night cleaning. Cleaning businesses, doctor's office, dentist's office, restaurants, fast food places. And he'd go home, sleep about two hours and get up and do it all again. Because faith will do whatever it takes. Because nothing is beneath faith, I'm saying, nothing honorable. Right? Right. And so he did that for a time. And then the business owner of that cleaning business went through a divorce. And he was so devastated by it, he just picked up and left and left the state and just closed down the business. And so one of the businesses that Ed cleaned for called him and said, why didn't you show up last night. And he said, well, the business owner left. He says, I don't have the equipment. And they said, well, we like how you do it. And Ed says, they said, we want you to do it. Ed said, I don't have the equipment. I don't have the money to buy the equipment. They said, we have the equipment. We'll give it to you. So they gave him equipment. And then he picked up all the contracts that man left behind. And within a short amount of time, he had 12 cleaning trucks and a whole crew that did the work. And now he's running it, but he's not having to work it. But he's now a business owner because he was willing to go through the hard, unknown decisions and steps when God said, build the building. And he didn't know how he would take care of his family. But as he obeyed, it would unfold. As you obey it unfold as you move forward into obedience. People want the whole thing to unfold so that they will move forward. That's not how it works. As you move forward, it unfolds. Amen. And so it's while he's doing this that God spoke to him. And he realized this. The church had now run out of money in the construction account. They didn't even have the money to buy the materials to finish the building. So Ed's cleaning business didn't just support his family, now it became the fund God drew out of.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
To buy all the materials. And Ed said, I have to buy all the materials myself, because if I don't, I'm not going to ever get this building done. And I want this building done. So Ed ended up not just building. God turned him into the funder for the building. The man without a job, the man who wasn't getting paid, the man without a salary. Because as he obeyed God, God unfolded abundance to him. I want you to know there are a lot of people who won't go through that. They refuse to be put in the place of the unknown. But if you're not going to go into the place of the unknown, you can't move with God because you can rest knowing this. He knows. He knows. And so anyway, it's while he's there, he's paying now for the materials that he's building with. And it's during that time that a man comes up to him with an advertisement and says, God spoke to me to bring you this brochure. And it was a brochure advertising the Full Gospel Businessmen's World Convention at Denver Hilton Hotel. And God said, I want you to go to that. And Ed said, I don't have the money to go. Why? He's building a building. He's putting all the money in the building. And God said to him, sell your house. Do you know we're sitting in a paid for building today because a man sold his house. Those were early steps that have arrived us at this place. That's what I'm talking about. There are Davids who have fought the battles. Can you think about what that would have meant when he went home that night? And he knows he's got to sell his house just to do and to be where God told him to be. You don't do something like that without the word of the Lord. You don't decide, I'm going to sell my house and force the hand of God. You don't do that. You can't come up with something to force the hand of God, but you can hear something to move with God.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
And so he said to God, he said, God, that meeting's in 30 days. I can't get my house sold in 30 days. And God didn't answer him. And so he put that day, he put his house on the market, and the next day somebody came by a cash buyer and bought it. So he put his family in an apartment. He had a home, but he was willing to go down, put it in an apartment. It looked like a step backward. You know what? It probably looked like a step backward to get into. When God said, you got too many, you got too many, you got too many. He was outnumbered, so multiplied and the enemy armies coming against him. And it looked like God was reducing, but God was getting rid of that which would have caused them to lose. What was it that would cause them to lose? Men who had fear in them. Men who didn't know how to fight. Men who would lay down their weaponry to take a drink of water to supply their own. They would lay down their weaponry. That's the kind of stuff that gets you killed in battle. So it looked like God was reducing him, but God was getting rid of that which would have beat them.
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Congregation Member
Hallelujah.
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Nancy Dufresne
That would have defeated them. And it looked like God was reducing my husband when he moves from a house down into an apartment. And he said yes to that, it looks like a step backwards. The devil always wants you to look at the natural and decide if you're advancing or not. And so anyway, he did what God said and he arrived there. And it was at that place that Jesus walked in and put a healing anointing in his hand. It was at that place that he sat under the word of faith message for the first time. It was at that place that he heard Kenneth Hagin and God said, this is the primary reason I brought you to find your spiritual father, that if you'll stick with him to fulfill what is on your life. I want you to know one step of obedience leads to multiple steps of blessing. But if you're going to reason it out, if you're going to figure it out, if you're going to calculate it out, you have idea what you just dismissed yourself from. Have you ever noticed on the calculator and on your phone calculator there's no anointing button. You can't factor in the anointing. There's no blessing button. You can't factor in the blessing. Amen. So don't let a calculator that doesn't hold all the equipment decide what you can do or not do. Amen. In Christ we can do it. I said in Christ we can do it. Hallelujah. Well, I just wanted to give you a remembrance of the things that men of God who have fought battles so that we can know. Oh, this is how you work it. Oh, this is how. So you don't have to go back behind the stores and you don't have to go back through back in the mountains and find people in ditches so you can put chains on their tires so that you can get food for your table. You realize, oh, my goodness, it's the blessing of the Lord. And this man taught us how to move and flow with the blessing of the Lord because it's difficult in the learning process sometimes. But once somebody learns it and they come out and they help you so you don't have to go through the same process. Just look at it in the medical field, how many hours or years somebody would assume laboratory about the vaccine for polio, and they just come out and they have it and they come out and they inoculate you with that. Just inoculate. You didn't have to go and spend the years, you didn't have to go and spend the cost, but somebody did. And in the body of Christ so much, there's a dishonor that they forget the previous or they diminish or minimize the previous. But I guarantee you, if somebody, if somebody didn't know God better than you, you wouldn't be where you're at. And we honor that. Amen. And King David was friends and not just a divine connection with Saul's son. And after Jonathan was killed, David remembered his covenant brother. And he said, is there not anyone still alive in the house of Jonathan that I can honor their dad? And he had a. Jonathan had a son that a nurse had dropped him as a child, and it left him crippled. And David took care of him because he's honoring. He's remembering. He's remembering. He's remembering. People forget what they ought not forget, and they remember what they ought not remember. They remember their past, but they somehow forget somebody who helped them through that past. I tell you what, honor is such a huge issue that if we're going to advance in what God has for us, we have to honor those who went before us. Amen. And others mistreat that and treat that lightly and diminish it and treat their materials and treat their revelations as disposable. But I tell you what, there is no advancing. There is no years of Solomon without David. Amen.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
Hallelujah. And every single one of you who stand as pastor, somebody, Somebody. Somebody went through. Through battle years so that you could go through harvest years.
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Congregation Member
Yes, ma'.
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Nancy Dufresne
Am. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Thank God for those who, you know, you think about when we get to stay in lovely hotels, you know, thank God I wasn't of the generation where you had to stay in everybody's home. I'm not against people's homes, but their home is my home. And you're subject to what they allow in their home, and you feel like an intruder, sometimes an intrusion. And sometimes these men of God were treated like an intrusion. And you think about dad and Mom Hagin sleeping in the chicken coop with a chicken on her head so that we could have beautiful hotels and be taken care of. And the standard was raised because somebody. Somebody was honorable enough to just show up and obey God when others didn't know. But thank God they've taught. I mean, dad Hagin said this. He said it was Amy Semple McPherson who taught the body of Christ how to honor the traveling minister. He said you went to her churches, her four square churches. He said you got treated beautifully. They gave you an offering instead of giving you a Dr. Pepper and say, here's your pay. Seriously, they're. There were people who. They would just hand them food, and there you go, because they didn't know how to honor. And he said if you went to one of her churches, she had been on the traveling side, then she was on the pastoring side, and she taught hundreds and hundreds of churches how to treat one another. Amen. We wouldn't have known that if somebody hadn't suffered and done without.
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Congregation Member
That's right.
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Nancy Dufresne
I mean, living in tents. They lived in tents. And I just want you to know, in our prosperity and in our increase and in our advance, don't congratulate yourself. Thank God that he put people in place that went through the difficulties so that they could easily just say it to us and we didn't have to go through it. We could learn by the saying, they would just teach it to us. Amen. Hallelujah. And now we're in a paid for building, paid for property, flying a paid for airplane. Flying an airplane that's been renovated and it's paid for. It was half a million dollars to renovate it. Well, that's too much. Well, you know, you can't measure it. You just can't think of it in those terms. And I guarantee you that thing will be held in perfect condition. Why let broke things be on the ground, but in the air it better be perfect. You can't treat an airplane like you let a car go not checking the oil. Some people don't check the oil and just keep running that car and things falling apart. There takes a certain mentality to have that kind of. You have to have a standard of excellence if you're going to reach up that high.
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Congregation Member
Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
And if you're excellent, excellence isn't on the ground, it certainly won't be in the air.
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Congregation Member
That's true. Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
You got to practice excellence in everything because people want more. But you have to learn to be excellent with it. Amen. Well, it went a little bit different direction tonight, but we're helped. Amen. I said we're helped. As I said, God said to me, he said, you're going to live in a paid for flow. You have to function differently. And he said, that is, you have to forecast what's to come. The Holy Spirit will show you things to come. Why does he show you things to come? Not just so you can look like you know something, but because what's to come is going to call for your preparation and what's to come is going to call for your faith. And that's why he shows it. Because we have to bring something to what he shows so that what he shows can be fulfilled. What he shows is not going to be automatic. Fulfilled. Amen. We have to prepare for it. We have to develop our faith for it. We have to lay hold of it and he shows us things to come so that we can arrive at what should come. Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of DeFresne Ministries.