Podcast Summary: Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Episode: Nancy Dufresne | Holy Ghost Meetings 2026 | Monday AM
Date: January 20, 2026
Host/Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne, with contributions from David and Morgan
Theme: Daring to Take More Ground—Raising Faith, Thought, and Action for Abundant Living

Episode Overview

In this inspiring episode, Pastor Nancy Dufresne leads a Monday morning session at the Holy Ghost Meetings 2026, focusing on encouraging believers to elevate their thinking, daring to "take more ground," and break out of limiting beliefs concerning God's abundance and purpose. Drawing from key scriptures, personal experiences, and interaction with the congregation, Nancy passionately calls listeners to align with God's thoughts, daring faith, and divine plans—not just for spiritual matters, but for every arena of life.

The conversational, faith-charged tone is filled with memorable analogies, direct challenges, and practical wisdom. David and Morgan offer supportive remarks, stories, and updates, contributing to a dynamic session filled with laughter, teaching, and worship.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Living in God’s Completeness and Unlimited Promise

• Scripture Focus: Ephesians 3:20, Isaiah 48:17
  • "Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us…” (Eph 3:20 KJV)
• Main Point: Everything in Christ is already complete and belongs to believers; it requires us to align our asking and thinking with God’s higher thoughts.
  • “If we can think of it or ask it, we’re already below what he wants to do.” (Nancy, 03:12)
  • “His thoughts are higher… you’re invited up, above that.” (Nancy, 03:00-03:28)
• Insight: Don’t limit God to your current thought processes—He dares us to think bigger and live beyond circumstance.

2. Daring Faith: Taking More, Not Waiting for It

• "It’s a Dare":
  • God dares believers to step out, take risks in faith, and pursue more than they're comfortable with.
  • “He’s daring us. So the daring didn’t stop when you grew up… as much as we dare.” (Nancy, 07:30-07:37)
  • Application to 2026: Dufresne Ministries sets sight on taking “more ground”—as much as their faith will dare to claim.
    • “You’re not going to float into more. You’re going to take more... you have to violate your thinking.” (Nancy, 08:00-08:31)

3. Beyond the Spiritual: Abundance in Every Arena

• God’s Plan and Ownership:
  • It’s not just about having enough spiritually. God wants His people to live in visible abundance in every aspect—homes, churches, cities.
  • “God wants his people successful in every arena... every place that the sole of your foot shall tread.” (Nancy, 09:25-10:25)
  • Story of American settlements prioritizing the church on the highest ground.
• Large Thinking Supports God’s Work:
  • “Practice thinking large in your own life so that when the pastor says, There’s land for $10 million, let’s do it!” (Nancy, 12:34-12:57)

4. Obedience, Increase, and the Role of Mindset

• Obedience Leads to More:
  • Serving and following God increases capacity and responsibility, not diminishes it.
  • “The reward of obedience is more—not less responsibility.” (Nancy, 13:46-14:49)
• Yoking to The Doer:
  • Faith means relying on God’s action and strength, not one’s own striving.
  • “I’m just yoked up to the doer, and I do based on what he shows me.” (Nancy, 14:49)

5. Money, Mindset, and Movement

• Money is a Tool, Not a Master:
  • Don’t allow money or its absence to determine decisions—follow the plan, not the resources.
    • “Every time you look at money, it’ll rob you of faith... Money is just a circumstance.” (Nancy, 26:33-27:59)
• Faith-Based Movement:
  • Miracles and increase follow action, not passivity. Step out even if the means aren’t visible.
  • “Just make movement. Just go look at buildings… God will meet your movement of faith, not sitting back.” (Nancy, 59:16-60:18)

6. Faith, Loans, and God’s Leading in Ownership

• On Debt and Ownership:
  • God’s best is debt-free living, but taking loans can be a God-ordained step in certain circumstances, especially in community or faith progression.
    • “Don’t turn ‘paid for’ into a bondage.” (Nancy, 53:30-54:07)
    • “God turns us into owners.” (Nancy, 58:22)
  • The critical thing is listening to the Spirit for your season—not copying others’ methods or breakthroughs.
• Practical Wisdom for Churches/Pastors:
  • Sometimes movement forward means building equity or getting a loan, if the faith and resources of the congregation aren’t yet at that level.
  • “If God tells me to get a loan, I’m getting a loan. Why? Because I’m not led by paid for, I’m led by the Spirit.” (Nancy, 53:19-53:58)

7. Favor Over Finances

• Story: Acquiring “Amy’s Castle” by divine favor, not money.
  • “There are some things money will never get you, but favor will get it. One day of favor gets more than 400 years of labor.” (Nancy, 30:13-30:22)
• Point: Don’t haggle over God’s provision; trust His supply for both you and those involved.

8. Faith That Takes—Not Just Waits

• Active Faith:
  • Referencing Sister Newsom and Mark 11:24, Nancy urges taking faith—believers must lay hold and “take” by faith, not sit passively.
    • “The word is not ‘receive,’ it’s ‘take’... God’s waiting for them to take it.” (Nancy, 63:33-66:24)
• Advance is for All, Not Just the Pastor:
  • The faith-mindset must permeate the congregation for corporate victories.

9. Practical Encouragements and Faith Stories

• Testimony: Nancy’s faith confession after her husband’s passing—declaring, “The Lord is my helper,” and learning that speaking God’s word opens the door for His help (Nancy, 37:58).
• Kenneth Hagin Peach Tree Story:
  • Emphasizes movement before strength appears, “God will teach you to profit. You’re going to have to make a movement.” (Nancy, 45:15-48:52)

10. Music, Growth, and Ministry Updates

• Worship Project Release:
  • Celebration of the completion of a new worship album, with signed posters available for preorders.
  • “The Holy Ghost helped us to give and put into your hands exactly what you hear in service.” (Morgan, 73:42)
• Ministry Reach:
  • Jesus the Healer broadcast now reaches 2.2 billion households worldwide (Nancy, 69:23-69:32).
• Partnership Call:
  • Emphasis on the consistent support and faithfulness of partners over large, sporadic gifts (Morgan, 69:58-70:35).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Thinking Higher:
  • “If we can think of it, if we can ask it, we know there’s always more above it, higher…” (Nancy, 04:16)
• On Daring Faith:
  • “God says, I dare you. I dare you. I dare you.” (Nancy, 07:19-07:29)
• On Obedience:
  • “The reward of obedience is more. The reward is not, ‘now you get to take time off.’” (Nancy, 13:46)
• On Favor:
  • “400 years of work never got for God’s people what one day of favor got them.” (Nancy, 30:14-30:22)
• On Ownership:
  • “God turns you into owners. God wants you to have more.” (Nancy, 58:22 & 59:19)
• On Borrowing and Faith:
  • “Paid for is not a bondage. If you turn it into a bondage, you’ll be paying another man’s mortgage—and that’s bad business.” (Nancy, 54:56)
• On Corporate Advancement:
  • “When God said to Moses, I’ll make of you a great nation, he declined the offer because he loved his sheep.” (Nancy, 50:48)
• On Faith Activation:
  • “What you confess activates your covenant—brag on God and watch him fulfill His covenant in your life.” (Nancy, 45:15-45:59)
• On Mindset:
  • “The mindset is far more critical than any money you’ll ever deal with… your mindset must be based on God and His plan.” (Nancy, 32:00-32:57)

Important Timestamps

• 02:31 – Opening scripture: Ephesians 3:20
• 07:15 – “God dares us”—meaning of daring faith
• 09:25 – God’s abundance beyond spiritual matters
• 13:46 – Obedience and increase; not stepping back
• 26:33 – Being plan-minded, not money-minded
• 30:13 – Story of favor vs. money: Amy’s Castle
• 45:15 – Kenneth Hagin’s “peach tree” faith story
• 53:19 – On loans & leading of the Spirit
• 58:22 – Transitioning from renter to owner
• 62:31 – Encouragement to think bigger for 2026
• 66:24 – “Faith that takes”—not just receiving, but active laying hold
• 69:23 – Update on ministry broadcast reach
• 73:42 – Worship project story and teamwork
• 83:33 – Nancy’s dream of songs “already authored in heaven”

Tone & Style

Throughout, the tone is energized, personable, and full of both practical and spiritual challenge. Nancy speaks directly, blending personal stories, humor (“Kick your faith in the pants!” “Do you have your faith pants on?”), and deep encouragement to stretch faith and thinking. The session weaves biblical teaching with memorable illustrations and congregation engagement, all directed at getting listeners to move, act, and think at God’s level.

Summary Conclusion

This episode is a clarion call to believers to elevate their faith by thinking bigger, daring to “take more ground,” and refusing to let comfort, money, or tradition limit them. Pastor Nancy Dufresne uses scripture, stories, and interactive encouragement to challenge old mindsets, advocating for purposeful advancement in faith, abundance, and responsibility—personally and as a body. The session closes with joyous worship and a practical offering for a newly completed worship album, reinforcing the message of increase and faithful movement in every area of life.