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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Hallelujah. We praise you. We glorify you, Father, you are good and your mercy endures forever in our lives are byproducts of your goodness. And everything good came out of your goodness. And we thank you, Father, for you have given us the best life through your goodness. And everybody said amen. Good morning, everyone. Welcome, welcome, welcome to those who have come for this week of meetings. And we are so glad to have you. Thank you, thank you, thank you for traveling. And we ordered up some nice weather for you. So turn around to three or four people, give them a great big God bless you if you would. Hallelujah. Thank you, brother David, for taking the pot, stirring it, yanking the steering wheel. But I want you to know, as he yanks it in a service, he also really yanks it in a car. That's where you practice. That's where you know the fun ride is. Okay, you gotta tell em. Oh, my God, Richard, you gotta tell em. When different prayers in your church growing up, when people, different ones would get up to pray, you always knew how much time you had. And then so you would take advantage of that time, you got to tell them, tell them what a wretched little child you were.
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The good thing about being small and short is you can slip in and out and nobody really notices. So this was primarily Sunday nights, Pentecostal Church, Church of God. So we're really good about having long altar services. Not every Sunday night, but many of you engage. Yeah, this is about a 10 minute altar service. But if you see a lot of like travail, sling and snot and tears and everything, I'm not saying it's anointed. I'm just saying they're in it to win it. You know, it's like, oh, my God, this is a good 30 minutes. And if somebody falls out, you know, somebody's getting filled or falling, one or the other, you know, you might have an hour. So some of those dear sisters, Pentecostal heroin, they many times would leave their pocketbook in the pew. And I had a word of knowledge come to me as a child that there might be a set of car keys in those purses. So that's where I learned to drive. Now listen, in those days, it's fuel injection now, and cars run leaner and cleaner. But in those days, if you didn't just once open up all four barrels, if it was a four barrel carburetor, and you did that by maximum pressure on the accelerator toward the carpet. And so I figured it was my obligation to Sister C. Schultz and Sister McClure and Sister. Sister Bori and Sister Hollis. All big Buicks, Oldsmobiles. And if I could get my hands on a Cadillac, Jesus was coming. So that's where Pastor says, you know, I. And most of the time, I made it back before the altar service was over. So they never knew it. They probably just thought, this car's running better than ever. But a few times I misjudged how long the altar service was. So there they are in their pocketbook, waiting in the parking lot for their.
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Car, for the valet service to return the car.
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You know what? I should have used that.
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You were valet service for those ladies. You were taking care of them.
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That's exactly right. So that's where.
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Did you tell them how old you were?
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12, 13, 14? The Bible says to take care of them, of the widows. Mom's taking care of those cars.
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Not everybody is as sensitive to the needs of the people as you are.
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It's just the love of Jesus.
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So when he talks about taking a service and going a different direction, he meant literally. We're glad you're here, David. We have been. We'll see how the services go, you know, this week. And they'll go the good way, because the Holy Ghost is always good, right? But God said to me, coming into this new year, I want you teaching on in Christ in the filming of Jesus the healer. And so we've been doing that. And our golden scripture for that series is found in Colossians chapter two and verse nine. And I'm going to read it out of the living Bible translation. I hope you know it. Those of you who watch the broadcast, I hope you know it now. But Colossians chapter 2 and verse 9. For in Christ, how many of you know that's you? For in Christ there is all of God, human body. Now he's talking about Jesus. Human body. Because Jesus took on flesh. And as Brother Copeland says, now there is a human man in the Godhead. For in Christ, there is all of God in a human body. So you have everything. Now look at that. So you have everything. So you have everything when you have Christ. And you are filled with God through your union with Christ. And he is the highest ruler with authority over every other power. So every other power is a lesser power, and it's a defeated power. So with every encounter, we always have to remember when every opposition shows up, you're lesser and you're defeated. So we are not trying to get victory. I was seeing something the other day and it said, we are praising through to victory. That is wrong. We have got to correct some things because what this does is it puts you here trying to get there. And the trying is called through. I'm praying through. Now we understand there's some accuracy, what they're talking about. They're laying hold of some things, but that is. It gives us some. And paints some wrong pictures. People will say, I'm, you know, I'm breaking through. Well, there. I believe there is one phrase in a. And believe me, I'm not trying to be controversial, but we use words that aren't scriptural based and it starts repainting definitions and it unconsciously does a reset on people. And there is a term in the Old Testament, but it's a different translation and not even the King James. It says breakthrough. That's Old Covenant, right? That's right. That's right. They weren't through. But Jesus was raised far above all principality, power, might and dominion, and seated at the right hand of the Father. What's that mean? We are through. And if you start facing opposition with the idea of I've got to get through, you will not lay hold of your victory because you are not in faith and you are not on the word. There you go. You're helping us. Come on, come on. We have to correct these things because what that does, that puts us in trying motion. It puts us in coercing, trying to coerce God into taking us from here to there because we've got to get through, because there's opposition that is blocking my throughness. And I'm not praising to get through. I'm praising because I am through.
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Hallelujah. Amen.
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I'm not confessing to get through. I'm confessing that I am through. See the tweaking of this? The Word tells us that God knows the end from the beginning. How is that? Because he's not in time. Brother Bill Winston preached a message. You need to go back and hear it. I want to say, does anybody remember the date? Was it the January 4th? January 4th. Sunday morning service. Go back and watch it. He talked about that God has given us dominion over the work of his hands. And he said one of the works of his hands is time. Time did not exist till God created it. And he created it for the earth. It does not exist anywhere else. It only exists on the Earth. Just like birds exist on the Earth, they don't exist out in outer space. They don't exist on the other planets. They are assigned to the Earth. He created it for the Earth. He said, so many people are living based on time, but you have dominion over time. And Jesus walked in dominion over time when he said, fill up the water pots. And by the time they dipped out and took it to the governor of the feast, it had changed. That's right. Because he did not go through the time of sowing, through the time of letting that grape grow, harvested, cause it to go through the fermenting process. He took dominion over time that he laid aside time. He understood he had dominion over time. And if we don't understand some things, we will put up with things, waiting for the time when we have dominion to say, get there now. Because faith sets aside time. Because now faith is. And the more our faith grows, the more we're going to deal with the now instead of the time. But if you think you've got to get through, you have just thrown yourself in as a subject of time instead of in dominion over time. Preaching good, because this is how Adam used to operate. And it was lost, you know. But God sits in eternity, no time there. And when heaven talks about what we call the passing of time, Heaven calls it ages, not time. It's ages. And it says, in the age to come.
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Yes, ma'. Am.
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Right. And so God sits well when it says that God knows the end from the beginning. Why is that? Because time does not restrict his view. That's right. Hallelujah. He can see the past, the present, and the future. Why? Because he is not subject to time. He is in eternity. And God has put us in dominion over the work of his hands. And he is the one that assigned time to the earth, not to govern us. God did not put animals and fish and things on the earth to govern us, but for us to dominate us, to partake of as needed. So when needed, we can set aside what they say takes time. Sister Reba, when you went and they said, come back because time was set aside by your faith, and the body changed, it bypassed time. It did not take time for that to change. Based on medical calendar, faith will set aside time because faith is now. And the more we are strengthened in our faith and think like God, talk like God, we start thinking in now instead of time. Now, I understand this. First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. But who says that that has to take the time that it always takes for the natural man?
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That's good.
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That if we set that, if we start setting well within this amount of time, I'm expecting my finances to change. Okay, let me give you an example. God said to my husband when he turned 70, he said, the next 10 years will produce more fruit than all previous years of ministry put together. My husband traveled like a Trojan. He went constantly traveling. And he said, I don't know how that's going to happen. But he said, God said that. Well, he went home to be with the Lord at 72. When he turned 70, I turned 50. So that 10 year segment was for me from 50 to 60. So it dawned on me when I was about 56 years old. I go, wait a minute, I've endeavored to everything that God spoke to Ed to pick that up and say, that word doesn't have to stop with a man. Faith can pick it up. And so anything that God said to Ed that was yet fulfilled, I chose to pick it up. But I had to remember it to pick it up. And I had forgotten about that because it sounded so particular to him when I first heard it. God told him within the next 10 years. And I decided, wait a minute, I'm still in that same 10 year window and I'm going to pick it up. And so I said, God, now we have only four years of the 10. Because when I remembered it, I was about 56. And I said, I have no idea because my calendar, I don't book up like Ed the day he went home to be with the Lord. I rewrote the calendar because I said, I'm not going to go the same way. He went, that doesn't suit me the same. He went so, so much. And so I said, God, I have no idea how you can take almost. Well, it was by that time, by the time I remember this, it was over 50 years of ministry. And I don't know how in four years that are left, you can cause it to total more than those previous 50 years. But when you're in dominion over time, and let me tell you what happened, we received one email that invited us onto television and that was the beginning of the unraveling and one moment of God's movement. Now we're in potentially 2.2 billion homes in the earth that homes, not people, multiples in those homes. But wouldn't you say that that is more fruit than all the previous 50 years of ministry put together? Because God does not have to fulfill something on the calendar of time that we calculate. So what's that mean? That your house can be paid off? One movement of God. One movement. One movement of God Glory. But if we think it has to go through, I've got to go. I've got a 30 year loan. Then you're locked to that. But faith unlocks that. It takes you out of that boundary, that box of thinking. Because until the thinking thinks differently, the manifestations cannot do except what you expect. You got notes on this? No, I'm just talking.
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Come on.
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Excellent. But we have put ourself back at the pace of a mere man by it has to go through this process. I'm just walking out the process. How many times people say, I'm just walking out the process. Well, there is a process. But. But who says it has to take the time that it takes? Everyone else. Jesus appeared to dad Hagin on one occasion and he said, for those who are under the care of a doctor, he said, I will speed up the healing process. Why? In other words, I will set aside time because it's under his dominion, praise God. But it's also because everything that's in him is in us. We are in Christ. Everything. And we read it. Everything that he has, we have. And if he can set aside time, we can set aside time. Amen. We understand there's harvest time and so time. But who says it has to look like what you naturally expect time's course to be? Now? How can we live bypassing this sometimes slow ticking of time? How can we? We are already through. If you don't get that, you're going to think I've got to stick to what time tells me can happen. You're awful quiet. But if you think you've got to get through, you're going to. You're sentenced to time. Yep. Yep. Because you're going to walk it out. Come on, we'll help you. But if you understand I'm through, I'm through. Then I can receive now, because I'm through. I'm not taking time to get through. I am through. Praise God. That's good. Let that tweak your little mind. The mind cannot always grab that, but the heart can. So it says, God knows the end from the beginning. Why, he's already seen the end. And in your life. He authored the end. He authored an ending. Don't accept a different ending than he authored because circumstances will try to rewrite the ending, try to affect the ending. But he authored an ending for you. And it says, I don't have the reference that he gives you. An expected end. That's right. That's right. Not something you never saw coming and something just took it away. And how Did I get here in a negative way and expect it in? It goes the way I expect. And what do I expect? What God offered. That's the plan of God. I remember I was going through years ago when we had first really bought this property. Those of you who weren't around during those times, some who were the Simons and different ones that were here, you'll remember this property had a hill on it and there was a house on it. There was also another hill to this side and it had a house on it. And Ed's plan was where we occupied the homes for a little bit different staff members or whatever lived in them. They were just. But we bought it with the idea of tearing it down. So Ed took down the house, he took down the hill. And that's why we have flat buildable land. It was not that before. And so whenever, when it was still in its original form, we had not built this building at all. And I was going, I was facing a particular test. And I did not seem to be making advancement because in my head, I'm trying to get through and trying to get through every day looked like the previous one. And God. Walking up that hill, there was an asphalt road up that hill to reach that house. And I'm just up walking it. And I said to God, when I got up there to the top of that hill, I said to God, I said, I'm confessing, I'm praying in the spirit, I'm feeding my spirit, I'm praising, I'm doing everything I know to do, but nothing looks different. And you know, when faith is moving and God is God's plan is working, things should be looking, there's evidence. And so I said, I'm leaving out something. Something. It's just. I don't know. And he spoke to me and he said, I have already seen the end and you have won this. He wanted me to look past time and see what he already authored. Because he knows the end from the beginning. And what he started talking to me about was not the test. He started talking to me about the end. You understand that? What's that mean? You have to see this thing as over. But if you're trying to get through, you're trying to get through. You're going to have to go through this and through that and through that. And the devil is at the point of through. He's there with the test. He's there with the harassment on the mind, helping walk you through. I'm not getting through. I am through. I am through. And when you Face a test. That opposition shows up saying, your ending has already been authored. And I'm not trying to get through. I step into the ending because faith is now. And when it looks like symptoms aren't changing, you talk to them from the place of at the end. I'm at the end of this test. You might start it, I finish it. And I don't finish it by going through it. I finish it by stepping to the end, to the expected end that God offered for me. I talk from there, I speak from there. And then I let everything around me catch up to that end. But I'm not going through those things. They have to meet my end. Does that make sense to you? When we walk by faith, it says that while you look, not while we look not at the things which are seen. Look at that. While we look not. The word tells you where you not look. While we look not where can he. What does he tell us not to look at the scene. What is it? This realm, These things that look like you're not through? Because all this world can do is replicate what this world carries. But we are not looking at this world because this is not what's governing us. We're governed by a different realm, a higher. Higher. That's above time, it's above seasons, it's above circumstances, it's above them. That's right. I'm not saying that test. I'm not saying you're going to bypass tests. I'm saying you're going to step into the ending when you choose. Because now faith is. What does faith do? It's victory. This is the victory that overcomes the world. When you step into faith, you just stepped into a completed victory. I'm not trying to get through to victory. It is a completed victory. It's a completed victory. I'm not trying to get through to that because my faith puts me right there at the end. A completed victory.
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So.
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While we look not at the things, why is it. Because if you look at the things, it will throw you back into time. It will throw you back into the natural processes that you've got to go through the 30 years to pay off your mortgage, that you have to go through those treatments of all of this time, of how it's going to affect the body. Come on. Come on. There you go. It's not the easiest thing in the world to get people who are going through excessive medical treatments that are very severe. It's not easy to get the anointing in them. You want to know why their attention is so Focused. And what happens? Their faith starts shifting toward the treatments because their hope is going there. Their hope. I hope this works. I'm not saying there's not faith. I'm just saying you have to guard that your faith doesn't shift with anything that this natural that you're partaking of. You keep your faith, faith on God, on the word, on the supernatural, so that your faith doesn't get attached to the process. You attach your faith to processes and processes are now lording it over you. And you see, if the doctor says, I can't do this, then I can't do that. If I have to, it'll take this long for that to heal. Then it takes this long. You see, you start falling susceptible to what you have dominion over. And that's why Jesus said, if any of my children go the medical route, it does not offend him because he wants you whole. He wants you whole. But he says, I will speed up. How is it he said, I'll speed up the healing? Yeah. Why is that? Because time has no dominion over him and we are in Christ and everything that's his is ours. But I have given you dominion over the works of my hands. And time is part of that. So rewrite your thinking.
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Amen.
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What are you facing? You're not getting through it. You are through. And it's faith that says I'm through. I am on the other side of this right now. I'm on the other side of this right now. Why? Because this is the victory that overcomes. I stepped over even my faith when I said right now that put me in that victory. Put me at the end. Now the other stuff is just riff raff of this world. And I'm focused because I'm already through. My words are saying, I'm through. My attention, what my attention is on is fixed on. I'm at the end of this. I'm at the end of this. I'm at the end of this. Amen. But if you think that it has to take the four months they told you, if you think it has to take the 30 years to pay it off, then you are now subject to. To time. Instead of dominating it. Jesus set aside and walked on water. Set aside the laws of nature. Why? Because miracles always set aside the laws of nature. That's right. It bypasses this earth's system. Know this. The Bible says, Satan is the God of this world. You have to say this, this. You have to say it correctly. Satan is the God of this world's system, but the earth is the Lord's the cattle on a thousand hills, and he has given it to men. So all the property, all the land, all the houses, it's not the Devil's, the system is the Devil's, but the actual tangibility is the Lord's. You understand that? So when he said to me, I've already seen the end, and you win. When I was walking on that hill, you win. What was he doing? I was in my head, trying to get through. I'm trying to feel different. I'm trying to look at things that don't affect me. I'm trying to. The things that affect me, I'm trying to feel them different. Why? Because I don't know. I'm through. I'm praying and praising my way through. You better drop that. Better drop that. That's not. That's not covenant. That's not redemption.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Redemption is. You're there. We have been. Say it with me. We have been delivered from the kingdom of darkness. What's the next word? Translated. Translated. Time set aside. Time set aside. He picked us up, took us apart from time and put us in a different kingdom. Now we talk out of that kingdom. I'm not trying to get through. I've been translated into that kingdom. I am through. I am through. I am through. Something might preach well, but it doesn't mean it's scriptural. It may sound exciting to someone who's looking for getting past something. The way you tell it, the way you get them past, is you tell them you're already through. You're already through. You talk like you're through. You think like you're through. You act like you're through. You answer like you're through. Because faith is now. It has already put you through. Amen. And I am not trying to stir the pot. I'm wanting to remind us who he is in us, who he made us to be, what he has done for us. We are not here just managing our lives, coping from crisis to crisis. That's not kingdom living. And the kingdom of God is within you. So what can you think of now that you're believing for? You have to talk like it's already yours. When you do that, those words transfer things from the unseen to the seen while we look not at the scene because the scene will never show you. You're through. Your words change what you see. To say, I'm through. I'm not coping with this tragedy of the past. I'm through. It's done. The blood of Jesus cleansed it. It's Gone. I'm through. I don't have to work it out, talk it out emotionally, feel different. Because if you're going to wait for your emotions, your emotions will never tell you you're through. It's about faith. We say, I'm through. I am on the other side of this. This thing stops today. Now, now, now, now, now, you say. But nothing is stopping us. Still feel the same? No. Your words put you in the victory place by faith now. And then you praise God from the through position. Amen. While we look not there. When the word says to look not at the things which are seen, it's disobedience. To look, it's a sin. Amen. To disobey the word is sin. And if it says you look, not if you look, you're in sin. That's right. And then you get on the devil's territory because you're on sin. And he can fill your sight with all kinds of things. And you know what will happen when we look at what we're not supposed to? It will rob us of faith. That's right.
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Yes, ma'.
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Am. You look at the money that you don't have in your own resources and you get fixed on that. Then you have to leave. What God said is yours alone. Because you look at the money, it will take faith out of you. You look at the money, it will take faith out of you. But have you ever noticed, Mark 11:24, what things soever you desire, when you pray, believe that you receive them and you shall have them. Money's not mentioned because the kingdom doesn't operate by money. But we are trying to get through and we're thinking about if I can get this and if I can get that. Faith puts you there. Faith puts you there. You talk paid, you talk all the money, you talk all the provision, you talk all the resources, you talk all the customers for your business, you talk all the. All the staff members for your business, you talk it. Because faith is now you talk. The end talk, the end talk. I'm through. I'm through. And then I'll just go through in the natural. The natural has to go first the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. But I'm already through. So I get to enjoy my peace while this process just plays out. That's just the after effect of my faith. That's just this natural realm catching up to where I am. Did you hear what I just said? That's just the natural catching up to where I am. That's the truth of it. Amen. So you can say at dinner, thank God, Father, my house paid off. Thank God. Why you talk the end? Jesus God knows the end from the beginning. He's not stuck at the beginning or the through. He already knows the end. And that's why everything of the word, he's always showing the end to us. So I was in that test because I thought I had to go through it. And the only thing that changed it is he talked to me about the end. He didn't talk to me about the through. Faith is now I'm already at the end. Amen. You go, well, that's just positive thinking. It sure is. It's very positive. Because the only thing left is negative thinking. While we look not at the things which are seen. If you look at your symptoms, it will take faith out of you. Look at it. You look at what isn't, what's going wrong in your home, it'll take faith out of you. There is a penalty for looking at what you're not supposed to. And the penalty is you're robbed of faith. And faith is how you occupy the now. You understand that. So it's not just, well, you know, my gosh, I'm just under a lot of pressure. The pressure came because you looked at the wrong thing.
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Amen.
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Amen. Amen. Amen. While we look not at the things which are seen, what's the things that are seen, Things of this time, things of the world, things of the process. And I'm just going through and I'm just getting so tired. I thank God I'm confessing my way through. No, you're through. You're not confessing to get through. You're confessing because you are through. And if you don't see it that way, you're trying to earn it. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Why is God helping us to see this? Because there are things that are impossible to this realm that God has for us. And if we don't lay hold of it, we have. If we don't think right, we have to leave it behind. And if we don't start thinking like God says, we end up wandering, never arriving. Like The Hebrews for 40 years wandered and never arrived. That's where looking at the wrong thing puts you. Never arriving. You never arrive. That first generation never arrived because they would not take their eyes off of what they saw. And we're warned while we look, not. While we look, not. That means your conversation is going to have change at the dinner table and you're going to have to correct one another and agree in a marriage. I'm going to help you. Help me catch it. If I say something that talking about time and I'm not talking about the now of faith. Help me catch that. Help me catch that. And I'll help you catch that. Because we need to occupy the now of faith instead of the process of time in trying to get through. Amen. Why? While we look not at the things which are seen. Why? Because if we look, there's a penalty. Not from God, but from what this world will show you. It'll rob you of your faith. That's right. You can't look at the money. You can't look at the. You can't look at. I don't have the education. Don't look there. Because there's revelation knowledge. That's right. Hallelujah. And that's not study. That's given. That's given. That's right. Come on. And if you rely heavily on your education, you're not going to accept the revelation that's given because it doesn't dance to your education. Praise the Lord. While we look not at the things that are seen, but at the things which are not seen. So our eyes have assignments. Yes. Amen. To look at what is not seen. I don't see my victory. I don't see the end. That's why you go there by faith and you say, now I'm in the end. Now this thing is finished. You talk it now. Faith always puts you in the now. It doesn't put you under the sentence of time. That's what the earth shows you. But God shows you now why everything Jesus did, it happened immediately while he was on the scene. It happened. It happened every healing. Even if he prayed twice, because he prayed twice for the blind man, he still didn't leave the scene till that was as he said it. Amen. He said he realized time is not my master. I'm its master. That's why I can say it'll happen for me when I've never seen it happen for anyone else. Amen. So to look at what is seen is to rob you of your faith. And that's the penalty of looking the wrong direction. And that penalty comes from operating in this world system. You know, from disobeying that verse. He said, look not. There's a reason he's telling us to look. Not. The penalty isn't from him. It's from the limits of what you're going to see. Because everything you see has limits on it. That's right.
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That's right.
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While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen, you don't see the end. But you can go there by faith right now in your thinking, in your speech, in the way you handle that situation. That's why when someone came up to Brother Hagin at one point and said, there's not enough money for this and that and this and that, and he said, it's your word's tripping you up. Why? Because they're talking about trying to get through and they're not talking about now. Faith is. This is why faith has to be fed all the time. Pastors, I love something dad Hagin said after he had passed for 12 years. He said, if I ever had had the opportunity to go back and pastor, he said one service a week would have been on faith. Why? Because it takes constant hearing and constant intake of the word to keep you out of the system that's all around you. You have to stay in the higher system, which is faith. I'm not saying. I'm not saying that the faith is message that just. You can only teach faith, faith, faith. Listen, you can't teach a marriage without teaching faith. You can't teach walk in love without faith. You can't teach healing or prosperity. You can't teach anything without faith being part of that. Because that's the only way these things happen. Because what is not seen is a faith realm. And you can only operate in that realm by faith. You see? Start trying to operate that by sight. You got to get out of that realm. That's right. That realm will not give you entrance. That's right. That's right. You ever watch a James Bond movie and they put down their eye and that thing reads their eye and the door opens and they got an entrance. Faith is what has to come up to that door or that door doesn't open. That's right. Amen. That room doesn't open to you except by faith. But it's already there, for they're unprovided. But if we got this mentality, I'm trying to get through. You're on the outside. That's right. You're not at the end.
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That's right.
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And all you're talking about is what you're facing because you're all to get through. You're talking about what you're looking at.
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That's right.
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And the Word tells us we can't look there. That's right.
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We can't.
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Well, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Isn't the word good. Praise the Lord, you say? Well, anyway. Praise the Lord. Can I read you a couple scriptures? You can just reference these if you want. We don't have time to let you have time to turn to it, but let me just read it to you and you can write it if you want. Romans 5:21. That as sin has reigned unto death, even so might grace reign unto. Through righteousness, unto eternal life. By Jesus Christ our Lord. We're already through through righteousness. Romans 11:36. For of him and through him, and to him are all things. Hallelujah. Yeah. And then we say First Corinthians 15:57. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Did he get through? Then the victory is ours through him. So what's that mean, we're through? Breakthrough is Old Testament term. Breakthrough is before the cross. You have to run Old Testament scripture through Calvary because Calvary changed everything. Amen. Amen. Praise the Lord. Then we have this. Galatians 3:14, that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ. That we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith, not through circumstances. We're not going through circumstances. We're through by Faith. Amen. Galatians 4:7. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son. And if a son, then heir of God through Christ. So it's all through him. If he's through, I'm through. If he's through, you're through. If he's on the other side of victory, trying to get through, then you are too. But he's not there. He's already through and took you with Him. Him. Amen. And then Ephesians 1:7, in whom we have redemption through his blood. These are the throughs that we need to be occupied with. Through his blood, through his authority, through his name, through his power, instead of through the circumstances. Praise the Lord. And then Ephesians 2, verse 7, that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ. So all these that ages to come is gonna be through him too. Amen. Verse 8. For by grace you are saved through faith, not through. Not just through time, not through circumstances. And then it says, verse 18. For through him we have access by one Spirit unto the Father. We're already through. When you say, I'm trying to get in the Spirit, you missed it. You're already there. But now we're turning our awareness and recognizing. I don't try to pray through to get into a place. I say I'm there. I step there. I just step there by faith. And from then on I pray like I'm there. And lo and behold, I'm there because we're there by faith, not there by feeling. Because most are trying to feel like his presence is near before they think they are in his presence and they're living by what they feel, which is the same as while we look not at the things which are seen. Amen. And then verse 22 of Ephesians 2, in whom you also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. These are the throughs we need to be occupying about, occupied with and talking about. I am through through the Spirit, through faith, through Jesus Christ, through righteousness, through sanctification, through the wisdom of God. I'm. Amen. And the peace of God, Ephesians 4, 7. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Jesus Christ. Your mind is already kept.
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That's right.
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That's your inheritance as a sound mind. You're not trying to work it out and get a better mind. You have it through him now, after. And then what about this down in verse 13? I can do all things through, not trying to get through, through Christ, which strengthens me. Amen. And then Colossians 1, verse 14, in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins, verse 20. And having made peace through the blood of his cross by him to reconcile all things to Himself. Amen. And then we have Colossians. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Look at chapter two. Look at chapter two, verse eight. There's another through Beware, lest any man spoil you. Through philosophy. What's that mean, that mental arena? They're going to try to address your life through the mental arena. And beware of that. Because in the mental arena, you're not through except through Christ. And they're going to pull you back into the mental arena. That's going. The mental arena can't get through. It took the Spirit of God. It took the power of God to get us through. And I'm through. And I'm pulling my mind and I'm saying, mind, you're through. You're through. You have the peace of God. You have an inheritance of a sound mind. And I'm not trying to arrive at one. I'm renewing my mind to the place that my mind has been brought into. It's the flow of peace. But beware, lest any man spoil you through philosophy. What is that? They Start what they can figure out and calculate. And they're trying to talk you through. And you need to say I'm through. You talk the wrong person. I'm through. You need to have. You need. You need to come in for this kind of counseling, that kind of. I'm already through. That's the renewed mind. Why I've been translated. I got through through translation. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. And then Colossians 2:12, buried with him in baptism, wherein also you are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. He got raised. I got raised. I'm through. That's right. So do you see what an insult it is to say I'm trying to break through? It's an insult to what? The price he paid to take you through.
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Amen.
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When he went through, he took you with him. That's right. Hallelujah. Amen. And then Hebrews 9:14. How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience. One commentator said that word conscience. There is replay of the mind. That through the blood of Jesus, the spirit of God will cause the replay of the mind to be purged. That you're not living with the replay of the past because you're through the devil does the replay of the mind trying to make you think you've got to get through that. Past that and you have to tell them, I'm already through. That I'm already through that. That means that gets no place in my thought life. Praise the Lord. And then Hebrews 10:10, by which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. I'm already sanctified. I'm sanctified. Now I'm going to act like it, talk like it. I'm not to going trying to improve my behavior. I realize I'm already sanctified. I'm sanctified. I am sanctified. Amen. Praise the Lord. What about Hebrews 11:3? Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Wow. Amen. And then verse 11, through faith, Sarah herself received strength to conceive seed. That's through faith.
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That's right.
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Yeah. That wasn't through physical therapy. No, no, no, no, that wasn't. If you rub this place on the bottom of your foot long enough, it'll activate something up in the top of. Well, that's right. I love something dog. Dr. Winston says you're going. Well, you're going to hear. I don't know if he's going to preach on, but go back and watch that January 4th one. He said this. He said, why do you think Sarah was able to have a child and the king wanted her when she was 90? Because God turned back time for her. He talked about turning back time, that God knows how to redeem time. Why? Because he's in dominion and you're in dominion over time. And then time you thought was lost. God knows how to redeem it because time is under our dominion. You talk about you're getting older and you talk about, well, as I get older, you're putting yourself as a slave to time. We're to be. Our strength is renewed. Renewed, renewed. Amen. And Dr. Winston Talk. It was so, so good. You gotta go watch that. He is so good. He said God turned back time for her body. And that's why the king saw her at 90 and wanted her over any other woman in the kingdom. She didn't look like no 90 year old. That's what we talking about. And Botox, ain't it baby? Botox, ain't it? This comes from within. This comes. My mother. It's so funny. When we were growing up, we lived in Olustee, Oklahoma. This before, when I was eight years old, we moved to Altus. But Until I was 8, we lived in a little town called Olustee. Like a couple hundred people, more dogs than people. And the dogs were all in fellowship. There was no strife among them. They were prospering where they're striped or no prosperity. And they work in complete provision anyway. So there was a very handsome man that they had, they had doing a commercial, the Clairol hair color commercial. And I remember being in the room, I would be about four or five years old. You know what four or five year olds do? They talk. And I was talking to mother and this happened more than one occasion. And that commercial would come on, you know, she'd just be cleaning house, doing whatever and the commercial would come on. And as kids, I didn't want. We didn't want to watch the shows. We wanted to watch the commercials. We ran in for the commercials because they had jingles, you know, and there's a song or something and then they're short. We don't have to watch a long show. They're short. It's a short show. And so that's. I remember running in to watch the commercials and so mother would be doing stuff and they'd get the TV going. And then all of a sudden this commercial would come on. And he was handsome and turtleneck, you know, Irish knit sweater handsome. And he's leaning into the camera like this and he says, you're not getting older, you're getting better. And Mother made the room go quiet so she could hear him tell her, you're getting better through faith. You're already through. You're already through to the better. You're already through to the better.
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Yeah.
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If you'll start saying, I'm already through to handsome, I've left ugly behind. Hebrews 11:33. Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought, righteousness obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword. Out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens women received their dead raised to life again. What's this? This is for people who know their through. If you don't know you're through, you got to leave this list alone. This is for now. Faith. This is for now. Faith. You understand that our conversation, our words are now, now. Now. There's no more symptoms now. There's no more pain. You say, but my body says it. Yeah. We're not looking at what's seen. We're talking about where faith puts us. It puts us at the end. It puts us. We are complete in Him. When we have Christ, we have everything. Amen. Praise the Lord. So now some of you who left projects back home before you came. When you go back home, you can go back home different. Because you're not sitting here hoping things work out. I say we're on the other side of that. I'm not trying to break through Jesus. If. Listen, if Jesus. Jesus couldn't break through. You can't. That's right. But he did. Amen. He was the breakthrough. Amen. Far above all. Principality, power, might and dominion. You can't get any more through than that. The only thing is people are looking at this realm and he told us not to. We're letting this realm govern us. When he told us that, it's going to take faith out of you. But while we look at the things which are not seen. Why? Because that puts faith in you. That encourages your faith, that fortifies your faith. But to look the wrong direction takes it out of you. That's why you got to purge your fellowship circle. Because if there are people who just live by what all this realm, they're living by psychology. They're living by trying to work it out. They're trying to get through, they're trying to break through. They will talk you out of the high flow. They will talk you out of the now faith. They will put you back in time that you've got to go through the same struggles that time gives them. If you're going to live at this place, you have to be linked with people who choose to live there. Amen. And sometimes when they say, I thought I'd come over and visit. Not today, baby. My schedule's full. Not today, baby. I love you. Even family members. I love you. But you know what I've got. My schedule's already spoken for today. I love you. I love you. I love you. I'll text you. You owe no one your faith.
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Yeah.
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You owe no one your faith because you're the one who will suffer for being robbed of faith by being courteous even to loved ones. I'm not. Listen, you can always be kind. You can always walk in love. But it's not love to lay down your faith and be robbed of faith by people who refuse to renew their minds.
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That's it.
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Thank you. That's right.
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Because when you're believing God for a miracle, you don't have room for anything except what God says. Amen. Amen. Well, are you helped today? We're thinking as in him. We're talking as in him. There's nothing uncompleted in him. Because in Colossians 2, verse 9 and 10, the King James says, you are complete in him. Anything uncompleted has to be talked about in him. You're complete. My health is complete in him. Right now. Faith is not believing. God can. The unsaved multitudes believe. God can do so much. Faith is not believing. God can. Faith is believing. God does it for me. Now that's faith. God does it for me. Now. Dr. Sumrall said, When I see a project that God offers me, he says, and I need money, I just say, get there now. He doesn't say, well, I'm just going to go through the process. Listen, there is a process, but that. That's this realm. Our faith is not a process. We are saying, I'm there now. God authored the ending. Now God's authored the finish for me. Now I'm going to talk as one from the place of the finish, not from the one place of going through something. I am through. I'm at the finish. He's already put everything I need in Christ and I lay hold of it with my words. Amen. So it changes talking this week, Right? We Come up. Hallelujah. Stand with me, if you would. Father, we thank you for your word today. We're so grateful for the Holy Spirit revealing and showing these things to us. That these things are not just things we shout about, but they're things that land in our spirit. And we meditate on these truths and we move with you because there is so much that this hour contains for. For us, this end time, season for the body of Christ. There is so much that you offer us, and we can only. We can only occupy that by faith. Properties, buildings, fruit of the ministry. The things that you offer, that you have authored in the plan of God for our lives. Father, it's by faith.
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Faith.
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It's by faith. It's by faith. And by faith we say it's all ours. Can I tell you this? When you walk by faith, you are not walking blind. Why is it? Because faith is simply this. You know, God's already seen it. God is just reporting back to me what his eyes have already seen. And I can trust what he has seen. Seen. And I can trust what he says to me about what he has seen. He sees me in Christ. He sees you whole. He sees ev. He sees everything. He authored for your life fully provided. He sees all provision. And so that's what we're doing when we walk by faith. We're walking by his sight. Amen. Why? Because his sight is not limited to a realm. He can see. He can see every realm, past, present, future. He sees it all. And then he says, if you'll just believe what I'm telling you of what I've saw, of what I've seen, then just act like it's true. And it is true. Amen. It gives us the best life, but it takes a rewiring. It's a renewing of the mind. Amen. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Father, we thank you. We thank you, David. What you want to do, do it.
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Trusting in his holy Word.
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He'S never.
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Failed me yet We've come this far We've come this far the faith Leaning on the Lord Leaning on the Lord Trusting in His holy Word in his holy Word he never failed me at all Prepar. No, no, no. Turn around. We've come this far Come on, let's sing. We've come this far We've come this far by faith Leaning on the Lord oh, yes, the Lord and I'm Trusting in His holy trusting he never failed me he's never failed me oh, no He Turn around. We've come this far no, no, no Turn around. We've come.
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Hallelujah. How many of you know there's nothing faith can't have. There's nothing off limits to faith. Hallelujah. And the just shall live by faith. And that's us. Amen. We walk by faith, not by sight. And that gives us the best life, the carefree life. Amen. Because when we look at the unseen, we are seeing the better view. The best view. Amen. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings. Share your testimony, become a partner, or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of dufresne Ministries.
Date: January 20, 2026
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Theme: Living “Through” in Christ—Dominion Over Time, Receiving the Finished Work
Pastor Nancy Dufresne delivers a faith-charged message to open the 2026 Holy Ghost Meetings. The core theme is living “through” and not “trying to get through”—a focus on the finished work of Christ, our position in Him, and dominion over time and circumstances through faith. Drawing from Colossians 2:9–10, Nancy unpacks how believers already stand in victory and must shift their language, expectation, and perspective from striving toward breakthrough to occupying the completed promises of God, here and now.
“So every other power is a lesser power, and it’s a defeated power. So with every encounter, we always have to remember: when every opposition shows up, you’re lesser, and you’re defeated.” — Nancy (06:47)
“I’m not confessing to get through. I’m confessing that I am through. See the tweaking of this?” — Nancy (09:33)
“God has given us dominion over the work of his hands. And… one of the works of his hands is time.” — Nancy, referencing Bill Winston (09:45)
“If He’s through, I’m through. If He’s on the other side of victory, then you are too.” — Nancy (52:40)
“When we walk by faith, we’re walking by His sight. And I can trust what He has seen.” — Nancy (64:30)
“I am not trying to get through. I am through. I am through. And when you face a test, that opposition shows up saying, ‘Your ending has already been authored. And I’m not trying to get through. I step into the ending because faith is now.’” — Nancy (18:16)
“If you think it has to take the 30 years to pay it off, then you are now subject to time instead of dominating it.” — Nancy (14:21)
“When the word says to look not at the things which are seen, it’s disobedience to look—it’s a sin.” — Nancy (36:28)
“It’s not love to lay down your faith and be robbed of faith by people who refuse to renew their minds.” — Nancy (62:06)
“Faith is not believing God can. Faith is believing God does it for me now. That’s faith.” — Nancy (62:08)
“When you walk by faith, you are not walking blind… Faith is simply this: you know God’s already seen it. God is just reporting back to me what His eyes have already seen. And I can trust what He has seen.” (64:30)
Pastor Nancy Dufresne compels believers to abandon time- and process-based living in favor of the “now” reality of faith in Christ. The “through” we need is already accomplished—in Him, by faith, via the Spirit. Change your conversation, renew your mind, stand in your completed inheritance, and guard your faith environment to see God’s authored endings, unrestricted by natural process or human limitation.
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